Building off of what you said, that if Aaliyah was really here today, she’d be told to shut up. People only truly cared about her once she died. She died so young, with so much potential for a greater career. But because of that, people never got to see the ups and downs she would’ve made in her career. They were never given a chance to villainize her for mistakes she would’ve made. A lot of people will discredit victims by pointing out their flaws and saying things like “Well, why didn’t you do this?” Or “Okay, but you did this thing to deserve it.” She died vulnerable and unprotected like you said, and that is why people use her absence as a way to push for these pseudo beliefs and disguise it as “caring” for her all while villainizing another woman in her place. She’s being used as some type of propaganda. And it pisses me off when people compare her to artists like Rhianna or Beyoncé, when these artists are nothing alike. Beyoncé is not a mastermind, just another woman to shift the blame on.
I agree w the cultural blindspot thing, I knew he existed but that's about it. The jokes, knowing the context, give me a lot of ick like I just think about the survivors and worry for them
No cuz the amount of unhinged baby oil jokes I've encountered 💀 Also, it's so gross how people are making fun of the victims, especially the male ones (allegedly) like JB and Usher It's definitely unsettling how ppl don't realize how scary/fucked up all of this is if they were in that situation.
It really does get me how many people I’ve seen completely overlook/ignore the possibility of Beyoncé being a victim when they accuse her of knowledge/involvement. I mean fr look what was done to Britney Spears, if that could be done to to a famous wealthy white woman -and for so long- , what would people get away with doing to a famous wealthy black woman
Well Beyoncé was surrounded by her family to protect her, which Britney Spears couldn’t avail herself of. Plus, Britney was abused by her family while the Diddy victims were abused by non-relatives.
IM GLAD SOMEONE SAID IT. Ppl are like “did u hear about this” like bro I’ve been actively avoiding this situation by it makes me NAUSEOUS and it should make u too…
FINALLY!!! SOMEONE!!! SAYS IT!!! We live in an era where critical thinking skill are DYING and conspiracy theories are thriving. I'm so tired. But people like you give me hope. Much love from Latin America!
I think the jokes is one thing, cause this sick man deserves to be mocked for what he did, but the people basically making up fanfiction and headcanons about all the victims makes me sick. We don't know right now what exactly happened to some of these people, and making these assumptions about what was done to them sexually when none of them have had the chance to tell their story, it seems like a form of harassment in itself. Imagine you're an SA victim and suddenly one day thousands of people are talking about how they think you were assaulted. That would be extremely triggering. Right now the responses really should be stopping at empathy. There's no reason to go around sharing what you think happened, there's no reason really for the fan edits with sad music outlining "evidence" of what was going on, just have empathy. Go to that person's page maybe and say "I'm sorry you ended up associated with that person." That's it. Not "I'm sorry you were r4ped" ect because we don't know that and that's not up to people to decide??? Just be nice. Jesus...
This entire situation has only proven that people still don’t care about victims. They say shit like “this is my coping mechanism🥹” under a joke about JB getting gang 🍇. THATS NOT COPING GIRLIE! It’s called being a dick. Coping would be making fun of Diddy for being a mouth breather. CLOWN THE FREAK NOT THE VICTIMS! There’s also a freakish amount of people saying “they’re just escorts” and “they liked it and know they want a pay out”. It’s all so fucking gross. Not even talking about people bringing politics into it.
It's the exact same thing that happened during the MJ trials in the early 2000s. Every single time there is a celebrity sex crime trial the 'comedians' gotta say their piece. It's nothing new, you're just young and noticing the pattern for the first time.
You're forgetting a very important factor. Beyoncé was groomed by an old, powerful man with lots of ties in the entertainment industry. She might not have been an active participant, but there's no guarantee she didn't go along with the nefarious shit JayZ, Diddy and whoever else actually had a hand in it. Of course she was old enough to understand it was wrong, but would she turn down a chance to dominate the scene when she was trying to make it big? I have personally seen victim of abuse turned around to be morally compromised. A year ago, when I was 19, i was SA'd by a man 22 years older than me. His gf at the time, is my age. They met when she was 16. You know what happened after I told her her senile bf tried to rape me? She went back to him like nothing happened, even after she listened to him defending the men who raped her! You don't think it can happen, nor that it would be possible, until you've experienced it yourself. That girl is our age, she's in our generation. She knew everything a girl her age in previous generations, like Beyoncé, didn't. Yet she still did that. Whatever you think can't happen, is happening to people you don't know.
I’m so sorry that happened to you 😢 you’d think other women would be on your side but instead repeat the cycle. And same I don’t put anything past these celebrities anymore. Diddy was also a victim of abuse, he continued the cycle, usher was a victim and continued the cycle with Justin. There’s no end to it and I don’t trust anyone. Not Beyoncé or any of the other celebrities that were there with him in all the those party pictures hugging him like besties.
Now I'm not gonna lie I myself have made alot of baby oil and freak off jokes and still do but I've kept it all to myself and very close friends. But I recognize how serious it is and never take the jokes to far, also I hate being serious and usually mask pain with jokes to stop me from feeling depressed.
@@sauce8545 well honestly, the way this stuff is being WAY more sensationalized right now than when the Epstein case is trending feels kinda odd. I'm not black though so I feel like I cannot really get into an observation of mine lest I fall into accidental stereotyping
No it really is like and to go further is misogynoir (rascism and misogyny towards black women) because they’re going after Beyoncé who’s not confirmed to be involved unlike someone like Leo DiCaprio who Diddy said himself was one of his favorites at his parties.
Building off of what you said, that if Aaliyah was really here today, she’d be told to shut up. People only truly cared about her once she died. She died so young, with so much potential for a greater career. But because of that, people never got to see the ups and downs she would’ve made in her career. They were never given a chance to villainize her for mistakes she would’ve made. A lot of people will discredit victims by pointing out their flaws and saying things like “Well, why didn’t you do this?” Or “Okay, but you did this thing to deserve it.” She died vulnerable and unprotected like you said, and that is why people use her absence as a way to push for these pseudo beliefs and disguise it as “caring” for her all while villainizing another woman in her place. She’s being used as some type of propaganda. And it pisses me off when people compare her to artists like Rhianna or Beyoncé, when these artists are nothing alike. Beyoncé is not a mastermind, just another woman to shift the blame on.
@@colorzxore gag it!
people have no grip on reality which is why they take everything as a joke, ur right it's very sad
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I agree w the cultural blindspot thing, I knew he existed but that's about it. The jokes, knowing the context, give me a lot of ick like I just think about the survivors and worry for them
No cuz the amount of unhinged baby oil jokes I've encountered 💀 Also, it's so gross how people are making fun of the victims, especially the male ones (allegedly) like JB and Usher
It's definitely unsettling how ppl don't realize how scary/fucked up all of this is if they were in that situation.
@@itzelgalvez4010 it’s crazy because certain people are so loud about how male victims of assault are treated bad but like… LOOK HOW YALL ACTING
Neither JB not Usher has confirmed being sexually abused by Diddy.
I guarantee they wouldn’t be joking like this if they were going through that shit.
Yes, as of right now it's just speculation @@BroJo676
@@_bl00myif it takes that those same people have much empathy
It really does get me how many people I’ve seen completely overlook/ignore the possibility of Beyoncé being a victim when they accuse her of knowledge/involvement. I mean fr look what was done to Britney Spears, if that could be done to to a famous wealthy white woman -and for so long- , what would people get away with doing to a famous wealthy black woman
Well Beyoncé was surrounded by her family to protect her, which Britney Spears couldn’t avail herself of. Plus, Britney was abused by her family while the Diddy victims were abused by non-relatives.
IM GLAD SOMEONE SAID IT. Ppl are like “did u hear about this” like bro I’ve been actively avoiding this situation by it makes me NAUSEOUS and it should make u too…
FINALLY!!! SOMEONE!!! SAYS IT!!! We live in an era where critical thinking skill are DYING and conspiracy theories are thriving. I'm so tired. But people like you give me hope. Much love from Latin America!
omg shout out latin america
I think the jokes is one thing, cause this sick man deserves to be mocked for what he did, but the people basically making up fanfiction and headcanons about all the victims makes me sick. We don't know right now what exactly happened to some of these people, and making these assumptions about what was done to them sexually when none of them have had the chance to tell their story, it seems like a form of harassment in itself. Imagine you're an SA victim and suddenly one day thousands of people are talking about how they think you were assaulted. That would be extremely triggering. Right now the responses really should be stopping at empathy. There's no reason to go around sharing what you think happened, there's no reason really for the fan edits with sad music outlining "evidence" of what was going on, just have empathy. Go to that person's page maybe and say "I'm sorry you ended up associated with that person." That's it. Not "I'm sorry you were r4ped" ect because we don't know that and that's not up to people to decide??? Just be nice. Jesus...
@@StarryNightxx exactly. i doubt any of these people leaving comments of accusations have left any comments of just good wishes to these victims
@@colbyscornerr glad there's still some people out there like yourself with hearts 🥲💕 brings me some hope!
I didn’t know who diddy was at all until I went down a rabbithole😭😭
i’m glad i’m not the only one omg
I knew him as a singer,but I didn't have idea that he was so rich and powerful.
This entire situation has only proven that people still don’t care about victims. They say shit like “this is my coping mechanism🥹” under a joke about JB getting gang 🍇. THATS NOT COPING GIRLIE! It’s called being a dick. Coping would be making fun of Diddy for being a mouth breather. CLOWN THE FREAK NOT THE VICTIMS!
There’s also a freakish amount of people saying “they’re just escorts” and “they liked it and know they want a pay out”. It’s all so fucking gross. Not even talking about people bringing politics into it.
It's the exact same thing that happened during the MJ trials in the early 2000s. Every single time there is a celebrity sex crime trial the 'comedians' gotta say their piece. It's nothing new, you're just young and noticing the pattern for the first time.
My first memory of seeing MJ was being a four year old in the 90s and someone mocking the allegations against him. Our culture is very sick.
You're forgetting a very important factor. Beyoncé was groomed by an old, powerful man with lots of ties in the entertainment industry.
She might not have been an active participant, but there's no guarantee she didn't go along with the nefarious shit JayZ, Diddy and whoever else actually had a hand in it. Of course she was old enough to understand it was wrong, but would she turn down a chance to dominate the scene when she was trying to make it big?
I have personally seen victim of abuse turned around to be morally compromised.
A year ago, when I was 19, i was SA'd by a man 22 years older than me. His gf at the time, is my age. They met when she was 16. You know what happened after I told her her senile bf tried to rape me? She went back to him like nothing happened, even after she listened to him defending the men who raped her!
You don't think it can happen, nor that it would be possible, until you've experienced it yourself. That girl is our age, she's in our generation. She knew everything a girl her age in previous generations, like Beyoncé, didn't. Yet she still did that.
Whatever you think can't happen, is happening to people you don't know.
I'm not saying I know how Beyoncé is like. I don't fucking know her at all. But do I think it's possible? Yes.
I’m so sorry that happened to you 😢 you’d think other women would be on your side but instead repeat the cycle. And same I don’t put anything past these celebrities anymore. Diddy was also a victim of abuse, he continued the cycle, usher was a victim and continued the cycle with Justin. There’s no end to it and I don’t trust anyone. Not Beyoncé or any of the other celebrities that were there with him in all the those party pictures hugging him like besties.
I think Beyonce knows things and it's fine to be suspicious of her in some aspects, but she did not assassinate Aaliyah. That's getting unhinged.
@@JLynnEchelon no yeah I think that’s a stretch lol people are just spreading conspiracy theories
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@@aleco444 thank you sm!!
Now I'm not gonna lie I myself have made alot of baby oil and freak off jokes and still do but I've kept it all to myself and very close friends. But I recognize how serious it is and never take the jokes to far, also I hate being serious and usually mask pain with jokes to stop me from feeling depressed.
At what point does it just become a gateway to racism
What???
@@sauce8545 well honestly, the way this stuff is being WAY more sensationalized right now than when the Epstein case is trending feels kinda odd. I'm not black though so I feel like I cannot really get into an observation of mine lest I fall into accidental stereotyping
it was immediately by bigottubers
No it really is like and to go further is misogynoir (rascism and misogyny towards black women) because they’re going after Beyoncé who’s not confirmed to be involved unlike someone like Leo DiCaprio who Diddy said himself was one of his favorites at his parties.
Talk about it!
the mockery of the (alleged) victims is all too casualll
ur literally so fun to watch
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@@PrincessDianaJ ty smm!!
Ngl the music and entertainment industry is cooked wrba bro
why beyoncé out of all people..
@@louimmature cause they know she’s that girl and there’s nothing they can do about it
The singer neyo literally delete my comment when i replied to sombody about him being involved let me tell you how shocked i was….
oh??
Anyone think this was Corbin Bleu?
Joan of arc?😭😭😭
It might be bc we grew up with 90s culture so it’s more shocking. I think you’re just too young to understand how big this is.
Love it
ur so right i love ur opinions n videos please nvr explode 🩵🦭
@@vltravviolence ur so real. but what if i want to explode
@@colbyscornerr but what if I say no ?🤨
@@vltravviolence well i guess i lose 😕
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People older than you have first hand and historical evidence lol boy pls
@@lk6457 what are u talking about?
@@colbyscornerrI think they're using your age against you when that's irrelevant. Just bc you're younger doesn't make your points any less valid.
@@rahbeeuh i thought i was going crazy. there’s so many comments bringing up my age, but i don’t see what that has to do with the topic i discussed 😭
@@colbyscornerr that's because your age doesn't have anything to do with the topic. Don't let the naysayers get to you. 🫶🏾
Defer to those who know more
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