Toyota 1.6/1.8L Oil Burning -'96 Geo Prizm -Part 4 of 4
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- Join me on this Christmas Special as I attempt to cure a chronic oil-burning problem on this '96 Geo Prizm with almost 240k miles on the clock.
The procedures performed here will apply to these 4-cylinder engines used on Toyota Corolla and Geo/Chevy Prizm vehicles 1993 thru 2002:
1.6L 4A-FE
1.8L 7A-FE
Part 1: Intro and vehicle history, symptoms, plan of attack.
-Pre-teardown compression and leak-down check.
-Cylinder head removal.
Part 2: Piston removal/cleaning, piston ring replacement.
Part 3: Cylinder head valve cleaning/lapping.
Part 4: Reassembly, start-up, test drive, follow-up.
Enjoy the series, and Happy Holidays!
-Ivan, Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics
As shared by another your video gave me the confidence to attempt my repair on my own. I ended up having a cracked valve. I replaced that and cleaned the others and lapped them all using a drill (I don't think I did as good of a job as you did). I also changed my timing belt and cleaned my pistons and put in new rings. It is also purring again with 277,000 miles! Thank you, Ivan!
Nice job! I like to see the old cars getting some attention!
There is so much of this model here in the Philippines. And parts of these are still very much available and cheap. And you can get a used but not abused one for around 2k . Nice job !! so simple to work on.
still in spec... let me look up the spec lol great series Ivan
I was a mechanic many years ago and this vid brought back memories. Very nice job!
Well, this series officially Kicked ass! Sad to see an end, but looking forward to some more!
Keep em coming Ivan!
It doesn't get better than valves finding their happy place. Well done I enjoyed the series.
I only wanted to learn how to removed the front engine mount without using a hoist as the haynes manual suggested but I ended up watching all the series and man you were never boring, exquisite job . thanks. This is a perfect educational presentation.
Thank you for the feedback, Mario! This was a fun project. Car still runs beautifully to this day :)
Congratulations Ivan! Purring like a kitten as expected. Thanks for taking the time to make this series and for sharing your experience with us.
+Baxrok2 Thank you for being a part of it! There's nothing quite like hearing an engine purr after a long job like this. Even the exhaust note sounded crisper than before. It was almost like bringing a patient back to full health after a near-death experience :)
I think the valve hammered itself flat. LOL Amazing job! Nice way to keep an old 4 banger on the road. Gas prices these days are nuts.
Ivan, I enjoyed the video series. Nice job saving that vehicle from the Crusher!
+David Goldberg The "crusher savers" are often the most satisfying repairs :)
Nice this takes me way back like car seats. I've had several 4afe powered cars thoughout the years and built a couple of them myself. Only tip I have for anybody wanting to dive into a job like this, when you get ready to install your pistons with the ring compressor, I always recommend buying a bottle of STP oil treatment, and just brush a nice coat all around the inside of the ring compressor, or in a pinch just use motor oil. But the little blue bottles of STP oil treatment are fantastic for assembly lube, it's super thick and wont drip off. I've built several Honda and Toyotas and I always get a small paint brush and use it on everything including the main and rod bearings and wrist pins.
Nice job Ivan. I have done countless rebuild jobs just like the little Geo shown your video series and I have to agree, it is a satisfying feeling. She's good for another 200.
Ivan, nice job. Really enjoy watching this series. Very nice to see that you and Eric O have become such good friends. Really enjoy watching you both.
Well done ,the old cars rock..
Awesome job man. Hats off to you for doing this on a low budget. I was really hoping that cylinder three exhaust valves will find their "happy place". Working on cars is my hobby and I rebuilt few engines myself. It is a great feeling when something you tore apart and put together now runs better then ever. It is priceless.
Yes it is! I just sold this very car to a buddy of mine. He's repainting it in a "Deadpool" superhero theme haha
It is going to double it's value for sure ;)
Great series, I learned a lot, thanks,,,,, I miss the days when all vehicles were like this one, no modules and spaceship stuff. So simple and effective.
+chungaleta1234 Spaceship stuff haha that's what it seems like for sure. The late 90s is like that sweet spot where fuel injection had been perfected, and OBDII phased in for diagnostic convenience. The rest of the car is still pure, light, and simple. It's a thing of beauty...well except for the paint job LOL
Good job Ivan! Not bad for your first automotive ring job especially learn as you go. Enjoy the rest of the weekend riding with Eric and hopefully your next videos we find you both healthy with no ailments. I watched the vent valve failed driver module troubleshooting you did with Eric & enjoyed it immensely. You guys compliment each other & make a great team.
great video. You need to adjust valve gap on piston number 3 .
nice work and your efforts paided off, maybe the pit in the valve filled up with carbon. no matter what success is sweet. great work. the best part of your video is your attitude and how much you love your work.
sweet, I just purchased a 1997 with the 1.8L, 5 speed manual, thanks for Video =)
Hey Ivan.Good job, nice to be able to change rings with the engine in place, I did not notice the timing belt being changed though? Enjoyed the series.
Good results on the compression.Overall a successful outcome and a lot of lessons learned. looking forward to the next mystery case from the world of auto espionage.
Nice and beautiful tutorial video Sir Ivan. Thanks a lot
Nice job Ivan ,breath new life fixing oil slinger ißsue and exhaust valve leaks ,👍👍👍✌️💪🖖🙏
Ivan, Nice cheep CAVEMAN fix ! Love to see the leak down and compression values at his next oil change !
Awesome Ivan, thanks very much. If it was me I would have changed the valves since between a bench grinder and I, the valve stems will end up looking like toothpicks.
Great job Ivan. Life in the old beast yet. Should be good for another few hundred thousand miles yet.
I'm so glad #3 found its happy place! You must have done an awful lot of lapping to make those pits seal up!
Ivan great job Enjoyed the series. I have to do the same thing to my daughters VW Jetta, so watching along is motivating me to getter done. Thanks, keep the vids coming.
Great video Ivan, my parents have a Prizm with 250k on the odometer that is just starting to use oil, I told them with a little effort it can go another 250k.
well done Ivan, please keep posting your work. look forward to viewing your work as well as Eric o.
Good stuff mate...The valves in #3 will fail due to a burn through but for now it's a runner and that's a good thing.
+ZIGgassedUP Thanks man! I might give away a prize to the viewer who guesses how long this engine will go before needing more work. What's your guess in miles or km?
I love guessing competitions...3,000 - 5,000 miles and the valves will have a chunk burnt out of them...It's going to run a lot hotter in the combustion chamber now with good compression...I actually think they will fail before that...1,000 miles or so..Be sure to keep us informed..Cheers
+ZIGgassedUP Since Ivan's repair I have driven 864.4 miles on the car - so far there is no signs of any problems engine wise. The oil level is still at full capacity, and oil dirtiness is around 25%. It is a huge improvement over a previous engine works, where already at 600 miles almost all oil was burn out, and it was all black at 300 miles mark. With that being said, in my, consumer view, the fix will past a true test if "Turbolet" will still have oil after 3k miles...
Ivan did good...My 40+ years in the trade tells me you'll have low compression from the valves between 3&5k miles...Hopefully I'm wrong...Oil usage won't be an issue I believe..Cheers and good luck.
Good work, the videos don't really show how labor intensive and time consuming this kind of work is to those that haven't done it! I personally have stopped messing with compounds and such and just send the heads out to the machine shop. I remember lapping some valves in a Volvo head that has those 3 groove keepers from hell.. Bad memories! However in this case it's worth helping a friend get some new life in his car.
nice job ivan i love how you get after it i would like to see you and eric o working in the same garage
Hello Ivan, Very good video series, enjoyed it, and learned from it. Stay safe, looking forward to the next one.
nice. applicable almost easy and fine job. maybe by better grinding the valve #3 , it could have shown better compression or leakage testing.altogether you achieve what you wanted without lots of damn technical parts and tools. again thank you and good luck bro.
I have the same car. I enjoyed watching this series. thanks.
Awesome videos man! Just watched parts 1-4 and learned a ton. Was keeping my fingers crossed for good compression on those cyclinder 3 valves. I have a 2006 Matrix and use mobile 1 synthetic 5w-30, so I'm hoping to avoid future problems with oil consumption. Currently, at 75K miles, it consumes no oil at all between 5k change intervals.
The Prizm is running strong at 249k miles at the moment; doesn't burn a drop of oil. Will do a timing belt replacement vid on it soon :)
Great garage floor overhaul ! Who need s all that high tech crap anyway ! Greeting from Arizona and a new friend recommended to you from SMA !
+zonie1953 lol low-tech solutions make you think more outside the box! You must be sending that warm air from Arizona...it was in the 60s up here today! Unheard of at the end of December.
And we are colder than usual , only in the high 40s here. Great job on the Prism !
I'm sending you a coin to balance on it! Nice series Ivan, really enjoyed seeing an A series stripped again. Don't have many through the door at the dealer anymore. Did a few sets of rings/Pistons and the odd head gasket on them. Fine engine.
+Toyota Tech I would vote this to be the easiest engine to tear down and reassemble...more enjoyable than a Subie head gasket job :)
Ivan that was a great series
Good job young man, only thing I would have done differently is hone cylinder walls with new rings and while you had it tore down replace the insert bearings. Cheap enough and will add mileage to your overhaul. I'm big on corollas, owned several 97 and back are best. All the ones I've owned have gotten close to 400,000 miles! Maintenance and oil changes are the key to longevity. Also grease if you have fittings.
Around here in the Northeast they would live a lot longer if it weren't for the road salt...not too many left on the road unfortunately :(
motoYam82 know what you mean, someone could make a living going south buying toyota bodies in great shape, combining them with low mileage engines from the north and creating good cars
My brother drives a '96 4-Runner and just recently scored a mint '96 Lexus ES300...I'm jealous! Those cars are built to last a lifetime.
nice series ivan!
Thanks Ivan, loved this series one of the best I've watched.
Thanks Ivan. Very instructive video series. Motivates me to try this some day
Ivan, your work ethic is "over the top!" Really, as usual, enjoyed this video series. Ran like a clock! And, I loved that Russian Music (?) in the background. :) Thanks again.
Good job keep the video's coming
Great series, but I would have replaced the #3 valve. It's only about $12. Using synthetic oil is a good idea to keep the oil holes open. The clogged oil return holes shouldn't happen again.
Fantastic series Ivan. I wonder if the leak down test on # 3 results would show less or more leakage on a running engine as shown with a pressure transducer. I haven't seen a vid comparing the two tests . If you get another one like this it would be interesting to see if there is a measurable difference.
+Steve Rob Hey Steve that's a great suggestion! I might do some transducer tests on camera the next time I see this hot rod for an oil change :)
Enjoyable series. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for doing these videos Ivan, another great series
great video enjoyed the strip down and rebuild cheers
Eric O has a nice Civic for you, if you want to continue this "saved from the crusher" series. I'm surprised #3 got the compression it did.
Excellent series. Thank you.
At that point of tear down probably should’ve replaced the exhaust valve’s because of the pitting on all of them. They’re cheap and you were right there
Car ran perfectly for a few years after this repair until it was traded in... Probably in the crusher by now 😢
Congratulations on a job well done!
For a car of that age I think the direction you took will be fine.
Nice Job Iven just subscribed to your channel thanks to SMA I would love to do an engine rebuild it must be so satisfying when the engine starts for the first time. Your friend done a good job with that cars servicing:) good job all round!
A very informative video my friend, thank you.
Hood job but myself I'd have sprung for the 2 new exhaust valves seeing those 2 craters in both valves but again that's me I e always been like that.
Great video. Learned a lot Ivan!
I honestly cant comprehend why you didn't replace the valves. Especially when you saw the pitting in them. If this guy is paying to have his motor torn down to this point, a second time, I think that extra expense should have been made.
+Nick Palmer Wasn't a question of money, but availability of OEM parts. I would rather reinstall the original pitted valves than new junky aftermarket ones! Also with new valves you have to re-shim the buckets to get the clearances right, which requires a whole set of special shims.
In any case it would be too much extra time and money spent on a non-issue. I mean if the engine runs just fine, why not just leave it alone?
I will admit I did make the comment before watching the end of the video. My bad on that part haha. I personally leave head and valve work up to my machine shop. I think my comment did come off a little rougher than was intended and I apologize for that. I was commenting on the chance of it not running right when done and have to do work all over again. Anyways, I have watched other videos and like what you do. I am a big fan of Erics channel and could watch his stuff all day, he can be funny as hell.
Such great job and vedio thaks alot sir
Great job man! I also liked the background music :).
thanks for the video ,ivan good job
Поздравляю с очередной успешной работой. Не перестаешь удивлять своими навыками и познаниями, я так понимаю, что ты охватываешь практически весь перечень работ по автомобилю, ну за исключением кузовно-покрасочных, работ с привязкой блоков управления(иммо)- это вопрос похоже к дилеру или есть частники вроде тебя(это будет законно?).
Успехов. С Наступающим!
+Сергей Клепицкий Спасибо, Сергей! Да, кузовно-покрасочной работой я занимаюсь только в крайнем случае. Например, на представленном Geo Prizm, оба порога я смастерил из листов алюминия и стекловаты с эпоксидкой. Смотрятся неплохо, правда? В наших краях машины ржавеют буквально на глазах из за зимних реагентов на дорогах.
А так я предпочитаю более тонкую работу, где обязательно надо шевелить мозгами :)
Вас также с наступающим!
Blessings Dr Ivan..genius.
Value: Great series. I learned a lot. Maybe if it was a camry or avalon I would be more appreciative of the hard work. The work that you did was excellent it is just that I wonder if it was cost effective. The car is not worth $1000 even after the rebuild so I do not think it makes sense to put $1000 into it. Keep up the good work, your videos are great.
+siucbset Just looked up the KBB values on a private-party sale...800 bucks! Dang that's low lol! Eh at this point it can only go up in value :P
Great job Ivan i recon 11240 miles
Good video. I'm surprise he decided to fix the car since it is a 96. Guess it wasn't a total head job.
Great job Ivan love your channel man
Hey Gaylan thanks for your support. I appreciate the comments!
Similar repair as the one I was doing on Lexus IS 250 and GS 300 at the dealership. Customer complaint was oil consumption and rough idle. I must have done about 30 of those jobs. New Pistons, piston rings and cleaning all the carbon build up from the direct injection. Real POS "luxury" cars lol
Nice job great Christmas present :)
cool video series .! thanks Ivan .!
I see in some of your videos you use the autel then switch over to the snap-on, is it because the snap-on has more features? does your autel have a scope built into it? I'm curious because I'm looking to get one .
do you make decent money being a mobile tech and working on vehicle repairs at the house? what was your major in college and why you switched to automotive repair? i was a mechanic as well until i graduated from college. i tried the mobile mechanic gig for a while but it was problematic because i'd always overlooked and always forget to bring that one needed tool. anyhow, i hope great things continue for you and that your business continues to grow.
Hey I have a Toyota under my hood started rattling what do I change people said I blew the motor but I doubt that
How many liters of automatic transmission oil carry those boxes is bad if it is over-level I have one from 1994 Toyota corolla
Hallo my friend,i have a corolla ae111 1.6 and i need to replace the valve seals because of burning oil.Can i trust OEM seals?
Great job Ivan. The series was entertaining and educational lol the reason I found it was I have a '97 Prizm with 300k+ miles that is burning a ton of oil too. I'm going to be doing this same job in the near future but I wanted to know where I can buy/rent the valve tool you used. Also thanks for the video. Cheers
www.amazon.com/Lisle-36050-Keeper-Remover-Installer/dp/B0012S61IO/ref=pd_lpo_263_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CEWRWDZDQ9JAX96V4W7A
Good luck on the repair!
motoYam82 thank you!
When I put gas on my foot pedal it stays running when I let off the gas it shuts down when I put it in drive it shuts down so what do I do
They needed oil but I added oil when I started my car it rattles when I put it in drive and reverse it shuts down so do you know what that can be
My question is why WOULDN'T you replace those valves since you were already in there. They can't be that expensive.
+Serafin Silva TIME CONSTRAINTS BRO! Of course if I had them on hand it would be a no-brainer.
So now I challenge you to find an OEM exhaust valve for a '96 Geo Prizm 1.6L. That means TOYOTA MADE IN JAPAN. I refuse to put any aftermarket parts in. Give me a link, price, and expected delivery date :)
+motoYam82 www.gmpartsonline.net/1996-geo-prizm.html
Not criticizing. Just saying If I went through all the trouble, That's what I would do if they looked that bad.
"Part Discontinued"...please try again :)
+motoYam82 It is really hard to find oem parts for older cars. The dealer usually discontinues them after a specific number of years. Same problems I ran into with my 95 Corolla
I see that....
Sea foam worked for me
You look tired there Ivan, bit more strenuous than running a think pad wouldn't you say :)
Was that box of Delicje a product placement? How much did you get for it? Haha. Fine video.
Great video!
Rule of Thumb is You Always Deglaze the cyl walls before ever putting new rings in
you did a great job!
For those driving Japanese cars, you may want to find a reliable/reputable JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) parts importer. From what I understand, the Japanese have odd tax laws and other laws regarding what you can drive and for how long... and the Japanese don't drive near as much as we do. The result, lots of cars get pieced out and exported in parts, very low mileage parts.
good helpful video thanks alot
Well, you shoulda ground or replaced at least one of those valves. And reusing rings?
Is the Prizm still running strong 6 years later?
Ivan you should of put new valves in cylinder 3. great job though just let yourself down on the final hurdle
+Paul Bryan Yeah unfortunately didn't have them in stock like Eric O. would...did the best I could with what I had :) Thanks for watching, Paul!
+motoYam82 no problem you made a decision, hence why I like watching you and Eric o vids. I like to call it the real world of reality viewing non of this set up rubbish. You could of decided not put this up on YT and I appreciate you did to show what can and will go wrong. 😊😊 +1👍
+motoYam82 I personally would rather wait for valves to arrive - I'm to pedantic:)
Was just wondering if you checked and re-shimmed the valve lash on this engine since you Resurfaced the valves it may have changed the valve lash settings.
I checked the lash, was within spec 👍
Great job and some luck
I really feel people 'give up' too easily on engines and want to replace them when they could easily be fixed. In the old days an old engine would be out of tolerance on almost every measurement so a rebuild or a replacement would be necessary. To me this was a lot less effort than replacing the engine.
+Andrew Thompson And a lot more effective too. Where are you going to find a used Toyota engine that burns NO OIL? Answer: they don't exist haha
+motoYam82 agree, I do not understand why but Toyotas are bad for oil rings. It may actually be Toyota owners not the cars themselves.
Personally I hate engine replacements, lots of unexpected problems like in your latest video..
Awesome videos man!!!
Thanks Bruce!
Drill hole out with larger holes and drill more holes.