@@jjtheprogenitor Crunchyroll LLC had terrible management but had good cast relations, which is why it was shutdown and merged with Funimation. Crunchyroll Holdings LLC formerly Funimation LLC had great management but terrible cast relations. Bandai worked with Funimation for years over Gundam. Sony hoped that the Funimation management could work well with Crunchyroll’s staff. Nope. So now you have the worst of both worlds: horrible management and horrible staff. The witch of Mercury launch fiasco started this discussion of Bandai diversifying its working companies.
This. Japan should take more direct control over international distribution of all their media. While Sony is technically a Japanese corporation, it is irreversibly infested by western investors. Sadly any company that tries to expand to the west will probably get overtaken by western infiltrators. Maybe the ideal structure of a company to do this would be a cooperative where only Japanese citizens can be members. This seems like the only model that cannot be corrupted.
That's the problem. Japan has this tendency to keep their stuff for their own and don't really care about those outside of Japan. That's why there are so many Japanese games/novels/etc that came late to other countries or not even came at all. This is frustating. But looking at what's happening now after anime stuff becomes mainstream (especially in the West), I kinda understand on what Japan think.
@@justawanderingoldman7699Their thinking is just bad. The west is a billion dollar honeypot of a market. Frankly of Japan keeps ignoring it, you wanna know what will happen? China and Korea will swoop in with their own distribution platforms and dominate the international market, which in turn will likely dominate the Asian market as Japan has a lot of issues in the industry locally.
@@chingompiew1 Crunchyroll is a Japanese owned company. What makes you think another Japanese owned company isn't going to do the same things or hire the same people
An IP? The anime industry as a whole. Do I really have to remind you CR was originally an illegal anime streaming platform? They were scum at the begin. They are scum in the end.
The Actions of KickVic will always continue so long as the Dub Voice actors fail to understand what they are doing are just redubbing English Subtitles. Its hilarious that the Gen X era thought becoming like Hollywood Stars in Personality would be a benefit to the Company.
I wonder if the complete removal of the entire CR community had anything to do with it. First they shut the forums down then they shut comments down. They were the only one with a sense of community. Now they are just another service.
That's what lost them my subscription of 10 years plus. I was already not too happy when they forced me onto the new site design and removed my ability to set a custom pfp, but the last straw was when they removed user comments and reviews. There were a number of people in the reddit page saying they were going to unsubscribe.
One of the best comment examples why I liked seeing comments on CR was the anime Bofuri where people would create fan narrations of reactions what happened in an episode. Made it fun seeing what people thought and whether I missed something.
@@dylives7667 nah, I’m currently hunted by the marines. This just incentivizes me to pool my resources with more allies. I’ve been a pirate for as long as I can remember.
No seriously anime is known in the world thanks to piracy end piracy and anime is quickly going to become another obscure japanese thing so good luck with that anti piracy AI japan u gonna regret it.
Thats the thing, they have no control over that. They Hight through a third-party using voice actors that belong to SAG-AFTRA, these voice actors also translate the Scripts not Crunchyroll. Sometime others in the 3rd Party company. they then give the finish product back to Crunchyroll. Where Crunchyroll fails is QC from them. However, having something sent back would cost time and money so they just roll with it. If if they Hire on ppl Directly these Vocie actors with still have to be part of SAG-AFTRA ( its a Union) would have to abide by their rules regardless of what Crunchyroll says or anyone from Japan.
@@gabetalks9275 They tend to have somehow worse dubs though, and no, is not acceptable because an optimal experience should not imply your eyes beingg fought for attention of reading and watching at the same time.
@@gabetalks9275 Netflix's localization is still bad and censor heavy. There are a number of videos on the remake Ranma 1/2 dub comparison showing how the dub content is fanfiction to put it nicely. Localization is a form of censorship.
I’ve been chronicling the whole Crunchyroll situation as well and just from a consumer and fan of anime’s perspective, they should have been shut down a long time ago
@@machodgdon technically Crunchyroll was shutdown. Crunchyroll’s parent company is Crunchyroll Holdings LLC which was formerly known as Funimation. Funimation changed its name to Crunchyroll and OG Crunchyroll was shutdown.
Funimation was already trash before they were bought by Sony. Crunchyroll has a long history of being horrendous before Sony bought them out. Like how they still relayed on FLASH PLAYER up until 2019 and their UI is worse than even the worst of pirate sites. They deserve to close
@@soukenmarufwt5224 Funimation and Crunchyroll had problems before the buyout but SOA still just completely destroyed them after the purchase. Like, they were better before the purchase than they are now. But SOA isn't just trying to destroy anime but gaming as well.
They forget what their service is for (playing anime) and who their competition is (piracy). Their fight should be exclusively to be a MORE convenient service than looking for piracy. As long as they don't return to their role, the problem and the controversies will continue.
Competition? More like no contest! Who would choose to waste money on a censored terribly-translated inferior product that is riddled with ads, instead of the free uncensored accurately-translated ad-free superior product?
@@ThePopo543 That was the point. They should stop censoring the shows and injecting their own politics. Just put up proper subtitles and host servers that can handle the load. People are not subscribing because they want the other crap they offer. The only thing they should add past proper subtitles and bandwidth for the servers is a proper comment system like disqus which most pirate sites use for people to talk about the episodes.
@@ThePopo543 That's why I say it's a matter of convenience. Piracy is not always easy. So the official service has to convince the user that it is worth spending money for the convenience and practicality of their service.
I used to sail the torrent seas and finding good torrents of content wasn't always easy. Bad bootleggs, no subs, or bad subs, bad bit rate and resolutions. Free gets you shite, paying should get you convienence and quality. But monopolies like crunchy make it difficult.
@Blackronin357 Exactly. So if a company becomes more inconvenient than looking for good torrent sources, we will download anime via torrent anyway. At least there are a lot of Fansubs out there that are full of more competent people than in many streaming companies.
I blame SONY for this, ever since they brought Funimation back in 2017 or 2018, Funimation now Crunchyroll have been unhinged without Gen Fukunaga's leadership.
Exactly! I never understood how after the acquisition, Crunchyroll was the service they decided to keep in the market (over Funimation). I was very close to getting a Funimation subscription (before I heard of the merger), then I decided to wait. Funimation just seemed to be the more professionally run of the two.
Historically, it was because their English is really bad and they outsourced everything without checking their proxy, or their overseas customer base. Now, they have a huge issue with licensing and fighting monopoly...
Cos licensing is more profitable and less risky. Setting up a streaming site has huge overheads, when someone comes and license your shows you just take money and wipe your hands off any financial risks.
Toei has long preferred to just sell rights to a localizer and just cash the royalty checks. They didn't want to get their hands dirty. Not for evil reasons but they used to admit they didn't understand what other countries needed out of their content or how to make it approachable. They didn't want to do a terrible job at it so it was better to license it out and let experts do it. Things have changed.
The Japanese government actually did and nobody used it. It was part of the whole "Cool Japan" initiative. The problem is that America is very good at marginalizing 2D animation, and Hollywood is very good at marginalizing cultural imports. Anime is both of those things. To be clear, there is plenty of demand for Japanese animation in the US, but that will never be acknowledged with the kind of mainstream support that would make it worthwhile for animation companies to establish US branches and work directly with the US market. It will always make more sense for Japanese companies to just sell the rights to someone else that specializes in exporting to the US. Any concerns about translation quality or staffing are purely technical things that can be worked around or fixed with lots of money. The problem is, Japanese animation is really not a money-maker, *even in Japan*, so nobody wants to go spend a bunch of cash fighting Hollywood. They can't even pay their own staff and are surviving purely off of taking advantage of the vocational awe of animators.
@@SuperSmashDolls I don’t know where you get these ideas but it is all BS, don’t try to blame the problem on Hollywood when the issue is solely on Japan’s side. First Cool Japan initiative only grants cheap loans to companies who wants it, they did not set up any government streaming services. but in the end it was all corruption cos the money went to the sector which least needed it - which was AKB48 idols cos the producer was connected to government officials, which is the reason during Cool Japan there were “sister” groups popping up all over in Asia cos they got free money to do such promotions overseas. Also another butch went to government official relatives which put up fake “cultural export” companies overseas and pocketed the money, whereas the anime sector got almost nothing from Cool Japan, and it was wildly criticised as being corruption by the anime sector. Also otaku market in Japan is HUGE, and licensing money is also HUGE. Anime collaborations in Japan is in pitch fever cos it brings in lots of money for local companies, and In fact anime/manga/games is Japan’s biggest cultural export and America is the biggest anime licensee outside of China, but the anime industry lacks representation in Japanese politics so they always get screwed over by local politics which consists of old Japanese boomers that are out of touch and thinks anime/manga are shameful degenerate entertainments, that was one of the reason the author of Love Hina Ken Akamatsu went into politics. Hollywood and America has nothing to do with any of this.
Let's not forget the many people who canceled their memberships in protest over them removing the comment section; by far, the highlight of their website.
That's why they lost my subscription. They were getting my money every year for over ten years prior to that. I was already not happy with the new site design, and the removal of features like the ability to upload a custom pfp, and the fact that the price has only increased is basically an insult.
As much as I dislike Crunchyroll sometimes, it would suck if it shut down. Doubt there could be another legal streaming platform with such a huge anime catalogue. But yeh, CR needs to get their shit together.
i have a feeling if they did then all the anime rights would be split between netflix ..prime and hulu meaning needing to spend more money for stuff here
This is 2nd biggest piece of anime news I've heard today. The 1st being that Angel Studios is making a Christian anime with some very big anime VAs in it.
The name of the show is Gabriel and The Guardians, produced by Angel Studios. Johnny Young Bosch is the star and leading actor in the series as well as many other heavy hitters of the VA community. And the show looks polished as hell.
The Japanese studios need to set up their own streaming site with their own libraries and farm off their merchandise sales to established retailers like Amiami. Dealing with inventory and customer service is expensive.
The problem with Amiami is shipping cost. US fans have gotten spoiled by free or quick shipping. I don't like paying 500yen for a book and $35 to ship it and I don't think anyone else would enjoy that either.
@smug_baboon and was F awesome! Shame they didn't have the full game "cast" (by that I mean characters, not specifically the VAs), or used "All of Me". Oh, and "Live and Learn" was cut short instead of playing for the whole climax.
@smug_baboon oh yeah, it's probably the best of the three movies. Just wish they had done more and included the bat and pink hedgehog into the plot. At least the mid credits teaser (after the flashy credit sequence but before the scrolling-text-on-black-background credit sequence) begins to make up for it.
Sony needs to blacklist all these malicious localizers. They have gotten away with altering the source material for far too long. Crunchyroll allows bad localizers to destroy these stories, and Sony would be fools to allow it to continue.
Some new thing can come forth and then have some other thing for competition. Piss on Crunchyroll. They started as pirates, weren't very successful and then got their big break for screwing over a rival pirate (fansub) who had a better product than them. I wish Crunchyroll the very worst. They deserve it.
I honestly think that all big companies end the same way, they expand too fast, they get too greedy and refuse to accept that its more profitable to just stop expanding at one poins and keep trying to stay in that good golden zone, and they stop being down to earth only having their heads counting their money in the clouds. while the company suffers. It feels like there is a limit to how big a company should get until it just isn't worth it anymore, like look how souless disney has become,
It largely depends on their attitude towards their customers. Valve is basically a monopoly when it comes to pc video game distribution through Steam, but they got there because they are the best at what they do, not because they were merged with the competition. Meanwhile the people that like anime, also like their community aspects, and Crunchyroll has been eroding that aspect away while raising the price and just overall wasting money.
@@darkprinc979 but that shows how good valve actualy are, they never got that ego that the rest did, Valve got to a good point in their game creations took a break from that, and started hosting games instead, and it just grew, never felt like valve forced it more like the fans liked it so much that it grew on its own, and valve didn't even try to become a monpoly, it just happened thats the insane part, imagine getting a monopoly by just existing, but it became that through time, in a slow and calm way without fucking over the fans, and i would say that is why valve lives,
@@Rasaborn Yes, exactly. Being a monopoly in and of itself is not a bad thing, it's all about whether or not the company in question got their monopoly by just providing the best value, and whether or not they maintain their monopoly by continuing to do so. I would say that so far Valve is just the best at what they do, and their success is their reward. In the case of anime streaming in the U.S, the waters are a bit muddled. Who would legally be counted as having the monopoly here? I'm not sure if it's Sony, who bought up the two major streaming services and through Crunchyroll also the goods distribution, or if it's Crunchyroll since everything was merged under their brand. Either way, there is a monopoly here and it wasn't built by providing the best value, it was built artificially.
Let's not forget that who's in charge plays a MASSIVE PART! If I remember correctly Crunchyroll was bought out by Sony at one point and it did nothing but go downhill from there. Prior to that Crunchy was at least decent, but the change in leadership led to it immediately flushing itself down the toilet. Imagine what will happen to steam once Lord Gaben moves on, and whoever takes over replaces all the upper management with their own pawns. Look at Apple after Steve Jobs, look at Disney after Walt. The real killer for companies is when...bad people, greedy people, wicked people take over, they then immediately run it into the ground to pad their pockets full of temporary cash. Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt what good has already created. What needs to be monitored is the morality of people with power / wealth, especially when in business and politics. Too bad the psychopaths are already in place to prevent that.
@@VoiceOvaGuy Sadly crunchy was kinda in bad hands before that too, They tried to make their own "anime" by hiring a Tumblr author that added their own Self insert transperson into the show,
@ Then do you agree that they should have an overhaul in management? Because as long as the people who are making the industry worse are gone from Crunchyroll, that will be fine too.
Stealing the subscribers' money to make High Guardian Spice and Ex-Arm instead of paying Japanese animators and creators. That is the snap that made viewers quit.
@Morpheus-pt3wq No, but do you think Sony isn't already thinking about doing exactly that? I'll leave that terrifying thought for now, but Sony absolutely wants to compete with Disney, in every possible way.
Gotta say 5% of sales in not 5% of volume/income. What they cut wasn't cheap trinkets. For instance I maintain a service for a client which handles around 8-12% of sales, but these are around 50 of the overall volume/income.
Even if Crunchyroll ceases to exist Sony will be there to make another alternative. It's Sony that we should be worried about; trojan horse to anything Japanese.
The funny thing is that they keep buying stuff because they can't make it work. Sony HAD Crackle, pushed that across their network, and still didn't get people on.
Americans mishandling Japanese IPs. I never saw that before, no sir. 💀 Thank God Crunchyroll are closing doors. Maybe now Japan grow some spine and create an anime site themselves, ffs!
Funimation already had a bad rep and bringing it back would likely mean having to honor the "purchases" that they no longer had to honor when they got rid of that streaming service. It will be a new name.
This hurts me a lot. I hate Crunchyroll with a passion. But I'm also worried that if they shut down that anime dubs and more in the US might struggle for a bit.
Pretty much. That is why they shut down Funimation's streaming as CR had the better rep at the time. Sony will start up a new streaming service then shift all the CR stuff over and pull the plug effectively making it the same service under a new name in an attempt to shake the bad rep.
Right now it's one of the only places that I legally can get a very large selection of anime I still have my subscription just due to wanting to support anime even if it's through a shitty outlet
You're supporting streaming more than you are anime. If you want to support the anime industry better you should buy physical releases. Yes, they are more expensive and less convenient than streaming, but at least you know your money is going to the series you're buying instead of funding lavish offices for Crunchyroll staff and woke garbage like High Guardian Spice.
You’re definitely doing the opposite of supporting anime if you have a subscription of CR. They have made the anime community worse, (filled with tourists and new gen’s) (treat their subscribers bad) (a bunch of heads that no nothing about anime looking down on us working there) (lots of censorship etc…. Even their cringe anime awards where they invite real celebrities like Megan the stallion or the stranger things cast to talk about anime… they always pay normie celebs to talk about anime…. That’s bad. You can support in better ways.
2 things they can cut straight away 1. The gaming division need to be dropped focus on streaming anime 2. Get rid of the WOKE DEI BULLSHIT!! Respect the original works and stop trying to push that shit in
Japan needs to bring the management of anime production back to Japan. Just do all the dubbing in-house. I'm sure there are plenty of foreign nationals in Japan that will gladly do faithful translations. There would be far less red tape from western companies with their selective morality.
There are lots of gaijin but not many who are good at voice acting. This IS a talent and skill. Other issues are gaijin who may not have appropriate work visas and won't be available for further recording. Besides, AI translation and VA is in the works. It may become a simple step during production.
If streaming services switched to free and ran 1 series of ads in the middle per episode like adult swim and took less of a cut id bet they would be more successful.
I miss being able to read comments from users on the crunchyroll service. Good comments like recommendations and user reviews. Then they canned that feature because homosexual anime/boy love titles got an number of discriminatory derogatory comments. Even though commments were able to be reported and removed after reports were received.
Man, season 2 of Dragon Maid dub had by far the most misandrist line I've ever heard and I don't really hear people talking about it. I was giving the dub a second chance, but that made give up on it. Funny that they never credited the dub script writer for season 2, so I have no idea who to avoid or be cautious of in future dubs.
Don't watch dubs at all you filthy pleb. Dragon Maid was dubbed in my home language (Spanish). While it was 100% accurate. Guess what it's still trash. Spanish relies on horribly outdated method of translation. As in, direct literal translations. Makes dialogue very awkward to listen to. Voice acting doesn't help either. It's laughably bad. It's why sub is superior Ironic cause Spanish sub has its own set of issues.
IMO whole Dragon maid anime is perfectly summed up by the skits present on youtube. There is no point in watching the whole thing. Lately, many other anime series are like that.
Pretty sure either Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial admitted to writing that line in a series of tweets about a year ago. Pretty sure Rev says desu made a video about it this time last year.
The only reason I don’t want them shut down is that it’s the only place I can watch bsd. My old anime streaming app has been having a lot of connectivity issues with the servers lately ao-
@@dylives7667 Warner Bros isn't Warner anymore. So no it wouldn't work. Also Crunchy came after Cartoon Network Toonami shut down in 2008. CN and Warner Bros were the original titans for anime in the 90s and 2000s but fell later on. And the new CN ceo didn't like anime (yeah Death Note and other anime still aired at night on Adult Swim Action in the 2008 to 2012 anime drought) but the CEO at that time wouldn't even BAT an eye towards it for daytime CN. Sorry if I wrote a paragraph but overall Warner was becoming less Warner Bros over the years and that wouldn't happen.
While Crunchyroll may be annoying people in Japan, its not in an financial issues right now. If we look at the dynamics of the Crunchyroll app itself, we will notice that it's growing quite actively, by 34% annually from $211M net revenue in April 2022-March 2023 to $282M in April 2023-March 2024. As for its lead in anime, then this is eroding which is expected.
With the way anime is rn, changing the name is not enough. as long as were aware that its their anime distributor the community will scrutinize it. Even if not, the anime community has been burned many times and lacks trust. what ever come along next they're not just gonna be able to say more than "hey look guy's we got anime". there gonna have to put in the work and guaranty the quality we haven't been getting.
I like thier ad version, and was watching shows on it. But a few months after signing up and ONLY watching with ads, they locked me out do to the fact I'm region locked. That's dumb. Then when Sony bought them, I was still told I was region locked when I signed in. Later I found out that I had to have a PAID SUBSCRIPTION to watch thier shows, because they did away with ad watching version, but didn't let anyone know. Why I stopped supporting them, and I never cared for thier new channel they brought in last year where they only show shows that thier ALOUD to show, and you had to pay to watch the rest that wasn't a loud.
I used to pay for crunchyroll. I honestly thought they were a godsend for anime fans. No more having to download my stuff on dubious websites. But once I realized how much they were altering the original works I quit. I will not pay to see my favorite animes vandalised. I don't even watch it free so I won't give them ad revenue.
You're not wrong. I get paid to watch English Dub Anime for a Review website and they don't always bother to translate when it's necessary for certain scenes involving Subs such as characters exchanging text messages, signs in the scenery, or differernt languages spoken outside of english. (For instance, certain characters in Golden Kamuy are capable of speaking in Russian and despite the Dub having characters accurately speak it, it's not English subbed for anyone to understand. You'd have to turn on the sub with the Dub just to fill in those particular story gaps.)
Until your forced to pay subscriptions to those pirated websites or they shut down, because small donations don't do a thing. Then again, big companies do have the power to shut down those websites as well, and unless Crunchyroll does fix its issues, then people will have to depend on Disney, Netflix, Amazon Prime, or Hulu or even HiDive. And if you plan on buying all the anime titles you want as physical copies, you better have more than $6000+ on you because I bought $2000+ worth of anime for my collection and I don't even have half the anime I want in my collection.
Was subbed to Crunchyroll for years. Cancelled a few months ago because I couldn't stand them anymore. There was always something. The mail controversy was the final straw for me, but just before that I had a nearly 3 month period where their app for my Roku TV just quit working. They support was basically useless and kept saying there was no issue and to contact Roku. Despite countless other people posting about the exact same issue, Roku telling me the issue was on Crunchyroll's end, and all my other TV apps were working as normal. Couldn't tolerate it anymore, so I went back to sailing the high seas. 🏴☠️
They had it coming for a long time, what really sealed the deal was them removing the comment section because they got butt hurt over words on one shows comment section. It was just a slick way to artificially inflate shows they want to make seem more popular than they actually are
Funimation sucked even more, take off your rose tinted glasses. It's more like Funimation bought out CR, and they kept CR's name cause it had a better reputation. Funimation had worse servers, worse ui, worse webpage, worse subtitles, and more controversies with the dub actors, and when the merge occured, CR went downhill
@@MrTom23 CR was always bad as well. Funimation was better than CR from a technical standpoint when the merger happened. Post-merger things just got worse. Instead of taking the good things and making things better the worst aspects took over. The crash and burn of CR has been a long time coming. We need a new player to come in and fill the void.
@@NorthwoodsHunterWITechnical? Are you serious? The one thing I did not want was Funi's devs working on the site and that came to pass. The worst things in Funi's website are now in Crunchyroll - harder to find what you want due to stupidly detailed organizing, autoselecting dub (thanks to said organizing), long or never load times on ads if you are a free watcher... list goes on. We got none of the good things because they hadn't bothered fixing what Crunchyroll broke on their site which was the watchlist and episode scroll.
@@NorthwoodsHunterWI From a technical stand point? Lol, maybe only the player was better since they implemented the html5 player first, but the service constantly went down, the dubs they did where shit localizations and the web page sucked all around. CR pre merge was miles better than funimation, even with it's flaws
I've been using CR through Amazon for a few months. I was rather happy to them have a channel on Amazon, but it's also been spotty. I've come on episodes that did not have any English, sub or dub. In some episodes, the subs lagged well behind the audio dialogue. It hasn't been all bad, I've been able to see and follow some good series, but there have been problems, too, and it seems those problems aren't being fixed.
@@k1ndr3dspiritsinstead of saying BS, actually look into the problem. Publishers take all the money and pay animators nothing. Piracy does not even effect the animators because they dont ever see that money. In actuality Piracy is doing more to change the industry for the better, as it effects the inhumane profit margins of publishers.
When Crunchyroll was by fans for fans things were better. The article cites that that they tend not to want to hire employees that say they are fans. So it there any wonder CR seems out of touch lately? To me most the Crunchyroll workers that mattered were either fired(in house programmers were the 1st to go even before the Sony buy out) or left when they saw the writing on the wall due to the buyout. So what you are left with is Funimation workers who were doing shady things as Funimation and now it carries over to the Crunchyroll name. One of the reasons why Sony picked Crunchyroll instead of Funimation to be the face of their anime streaming service is because of all the bad blood Funimation has generated over the years of its existence.
@@nanaholic01 Basically a anime youtube with a lot of social media(which is now all gone) built in. Besides, commenting and reviewing for each anime there were forums and groups you could join. Each member was given what was basically their own page they could dress up as they wanted and share much like MySpace back in the day. Once a month paying members were given a few codes to give out anyone to get free access to anything on for a few days. To say CR was never by fans for fans have either forgotten the actual past or wasn't around to know the true.
Does the Current Crunchyroll CEO not see what issues Crunchyroll is getting any into? He needs to be ashamed of this. The Current CEO needs to be fired as soon as possible. Us fans had enough #firerahulpurini
I tried watching something and got whacked with 14 unskipable ads pre roll, mid roll, I did not have the patience to finish. The ads break immersion. Genuinely surprised to hear they're closing. It's the suits. If they ran it lean like Craigslist, this wouldn't be a video.
I stopped watching Crunchyroll back in the day when I heard that they were removing the free option with ads because I was already on the edge with watching them since I knew that they were doing some bad things that weren't good for the customer and the Japanese companies and mangakas.
Ha. I just closed my crunchy roll account due to the closure of the comments and loss of community feel. So this report is really interesting, especially comments on people not retaining their subscriptions.
There is. And it's also free. But illegal. Well, at least for you english speakers. Over here at Mexico we're already watching anime dubbed and, sometimes, free.
I doubt that will ever take place simply due to the fact of corporate structure. In many ways, for that to occur it would probably be a pirate site and the Japanese are already cooking up a software to shut such sites down.
a pro censorship company wants to walk away from another pro censorship company?. if crunchyroll does close and sony opens a new studio, the only thing will probably change is the amount of censorship from mild to maybe the extremes, thats my guess.
Again,I'd rather stop watching anime than subscribe to crunchyroll. Seriously,if japan needs to come up with their own streaming site with accurate translations,uncensored,complete episodes,and have every genre in it,and cut off the middle man. I will glady subscribe to it if they make one.
Sucks because I remember when Crunchyroll had like 6 Anime's streaming with one being Bakaretsu Tenshi - the ever growing cast back in 2004. I was happy to see them grow, but I always loathed their website and how they managed everything from how they handled streaming, and god forbid trying to read Manga on the site. I was happy to see more sites streaming anime like Netflix/Hulu etc.
Just bring the Funimation streaming service back and have a proper syndication with each other 🙏, I really don't want Crunchyroll to shutdown 😭, I am really accustomed to it, this is really bad
Funimation isn't coming back. That's done and dusted. Part of that probably has to do with Funimation's own scandals before they were shut down. Unfortunately, it seems like Crunchyroll is also on the path of self-destruction. Hopefully they can get better management in there, but I won't hold my breath.
@@sideburngthepeacebringer27 Maybe, but none of them are as big as Crunchyroll, and certainly none of them have the community features that Crunchyroll used to have. How many streaming sites out there? Only anime-centered ones like Crunchyroll count, because for example Netflix or Amazon could drop anime entirely and not care, because that was never a core part of their appeal and they could drop it with little to no worries. I know there's Hi-Dive, but beyond that I would expect that any other streaming services that might exist are going to be publisher exclusive. I'm not including piracy sites in here either, because this discussion is primarily about legal avenues.
Crunchy has its issues, but with the way that article focused on the negatices, it really feels like a hit piece. One good new thing is how much they've improved on getting anime movies their deserved place in theatres in the west. From DBZ, to Spy X Family to Demon Slayer. Its gotten a lot better there.
I left as soon as they got rid of their free watch tier (I was willing to wait a week later if it meant I could watch for free with ads -even though ad blocker gets rid of them). As soon as everything, including 30+ year old anime, became “Premium only” I left for “Alternative Mirrors” and never looked back. Either way I refuse to pay to watch anime unless it is already part of a streaming service I subscribe to.
Crunchyroll sold out years ago and its not surprising, there are so may ways to support anime ethically and legally other than streaming. Physical media will always be king but I will sail the high seas like I've been doing till the Blu-ray of my favorite series comes out. Side Note: You have been one of the few Anime TH-camrs that talks about important news about the anime community. Thank you for your hard work Chibi. Merry Christmas to all and stay safe where ever you are.
I find this interesting, a few months back I decided to stop Crunchy, though it was the only streaming platform I was currently paying for. What convinced me was the fact that they removed the comment section, to some a dumb reason, but I really enjoyed reading the comments for a series I was watching and after they removed it I was paying the same amount monthly to have a worst experience, so that didnt made sense to me.
Even if they close their doors in the future. Sony will just make a new subscription service to replace them
Would anyone in Japan even work with them if it's basically the same people under a different banner
Agree but more pressing is AMC, Seven Seas & HiDive’s parent company, is not good health. It might sell off its Book and Anime division.
like a goddamn hydra jesus christ
@@jjtheprogenitor Crunchyroll LLC had terrible management but had good cast relations, which is why it was shutdown and merged with Funimation. Crunchyroll Holdings LLC formerly Funimation LLC had great management but terrible cast relations. Bandai worked with Funimation for years over Gundam. Sony hoped that the Funimation management could work well with Crunchyroll’s staff. Nope. So now you have the worst of both worlds: horrible management and horrible staff. The witch of Mercury launch fiasco started this discussion of Bandai diversifying its working companies.
@@jjtheprogenitorno Japan is not that dumb they will probably go to Hi-Dive or somewhere else
Japan has many anime platforms in Japan. They just need to make them accessible outside of Japan.
True we do need one
This. Japan should take more direct control over international distribution of all their media. While Sony is technically a Japanese corporation, it is irreversibly infested by western investors. Sadly any company that tries to expand to the west will probably get overtaken by western infiltrators. Maybe the ideal structure of a company to do this would be a cooperative where only Japanese citizens can be members. This seems like the only model that cannot be corrupted.
That's the problem. Japan has this tendency to keep their stuff for their own and don't really care about those outside of Japan. That's why there are so many Japanese games/novels/etc that came late to other countries or not even came at all. This is frustating. But looking at what's happening now after anime stuff becomes mainstream (especially in the West), I kinda understand on what Japan think.
@@justawanderingoldman7699Their thinking is just bad. The west is a billion dollar honeypot of a market. Frankly of Japan keeps ignoring it, you wanna know what will happen? China and Korea will swoop in with their own distribution platforms and dominate the international market, which in turn will likely dominate the Asian market as Japan has a lot of issues in the industry locally.
@@chingompiew1 Crunchyroll is a Japanese owned company. What makes you think another Japanese owned company isn't going to do the same things or hire the same people
When you're disrespectful to an ip for many years, of course they're losing money
they don't care for that. im sure they will tell the new company to be just as woke.
An IP? The anime industry as a whole.
Do I really have to remind you CR was originally an illegal anime streaming platform?
They were scum at the begin. They are scum in the end.
Crunchyroll just turned into a major headache for SONY.
The Actions of KickVic will always continue so long as the Dub Voice actors fail to understand what they are doing are just redubbing English Subtitles. Its hilarious that the Gen X era thought becoming like Hollywood Stars in Personality would be a benefit to the Company.
@@SoulAtParadise Meh, I canceled crunchyroll after I found out they were purposefully mistranslating things. I got more time for other hobbies.
Japan needs to make their own anime platform
RIGHT???
Exactlyyyy
Agreed!!!
Should’ve done that a long time ago
Or Japan Anime TH-cam Channel. Post all episodes of all animes. I'd expect a lot of views.
I wonder if the complete removal of the entire CR community had anything to do with it. First they shut the forums down then they shut comments down. They were the only one with a sense of community. Now they are just another service.
That's what lost them my subscription of 10 years plus. I was already not too happy when they forced me onto the new site design and removed my ability to set a custom pfp, but the last straw was when they removed user comments and reviews. There were a number of people in the reddit page saying they were going to unsubscribe.
@@darkprinc979 me too the comments where half the fun for me
Letting the public show their frustrations is not what they want. Just as YT removed dislikes, CR removes comments.
One of the best comment examples why I liked seeing comments on CR was the anime Bofuri where people would create fan narrations of reactions what happened in an episode. Made it fun seeing what people thought and whether I missed something.
@@shadowdrakes Speaking of Bofuri, you practically needed the comments to read the chatlogs given how crap the subtitles are for them.
Crunchyroll Shuts down.
Me: “Yo Luffy, do the straw hats have room for one more?”
💀 yohhohhohohohohoh
Did CR had to shut down for you to start sailing the 7 seas?
@@dylives7667 nah, I’m currently hunted by the marines. This just incentivizes me to pool my resources with more allies. I’ve been a pirate for as long as I can remember.
You are not joining their crew 😂
But I do get it... its why I always sail high.
No seriously anime is known in the world thanks to piracy end piracy and anime is quickly going to become another obscure japanese thing so good luck with that anti piracy AI japan u gonna regret it.
Getting rid of the censorship and putting out decently translated scripts would be a start
first i think they should get rid of wokelizers
@@Gellainidon't worry. AI is coming for their jobs real soon 😊
Thats the thing, they have no control over that. They Hight through a third-party using voice actors that belong to SAG-AFTRA, these voice actors also translate the Scripts not Crunchyroll. Sometime others in the 3rd Party company. they then give the finish product back to Crunchyroll. Where Crunchyroll fails is QC from them. However, having something sent back would cost time and money so they just roll with it. If if they Hire on ppl Directly these Vocie actors with still have to be part of SAG-AFTRA ( its a Union) would have to abide by their rules regardless of what Crunchyroll says or anyone from Japan.
Yes ❤
Dattebayo
To be honest Netflix and disney is not gonna be much better.
Netflix isn’t trying to censor anime like Crunchyroll is, so I’ll take it for now.
@@gabetalks9275 They tend to have somehow worse dubs though, and no, is not acceptable because an optimal experience should not imply your eyes beingg fought for attention of reading and watching at the same time.
@@gabetalks9275 Netflix's localization is still bad and censor heavy. There are a number of videos on the remake Ranma 1/2 dub comparison showing how the dub content is fanfiction to put it nicely. Localization is a form of censorship.
@@N12015 You're stating that like it's an objective fact, but some of us prefer subtitles over dubs.
yeah netflix's kanji translations for signs and stuff like that are terrible, the pausing isn't instant, etc etc.
I’ve been chronicling the whole Crunchyroll situation as well and just from a consumer and fan of anime’s perspective, they should have been shut down a long time ago
Be hilarious if someone did a longform video of the rise and fall of Crunchyroll after crunchy fully dies.
@ bookmark it I’ll have that video made day one
@@machodgdon technically Crunchyroll was shutdown. Crunchyroll’s parent company is Crunchyroll Holdings LLC which was formerly known as Funimation. Funimation changed its name to Crunchyroll and OG Crunchyroll was shutdown.
@@hydrathorn3082 wouldn't be surprised to see the company man make this video already lol, it's almost fully dead anyway
It was originally an illegal anime streaming platform.
On God, the founder of CR must had made a deal with the devil for it to be where it is today.
The streaming service that accepts ecchi/fanservice anime, then censors out all of the fanservice, is losing money... wow I'm not surprised
Quite frankly the entire Sony of America needs to go away. Sony of America bought Crunchyroll and Funimation and destroyed them both
Funimation was already trash before they were bought by Sony.
Crunchyroll has a long history of being horrendous before Sony bought them out. Like how they still relayed on FLASH PLAYER up until 2019 and their UI is worse than even the worst of pirate sites.
They deserve to close
Not to mention indirect reason why Rooster Teeth went down as well (even though their remnants are still out there)
@@soukenmarufwt5224 Funimation and Crunchyroll had problems before the buyout but SOA still just completely destroyed them after the purchase. Like, they were better before the purchase than they are now. But SOA isn't just trying to destroy anime but gaming as well.
They shouldn't go away, they need to downsize.
Sony America has saved Sony as wholes bacon multiple times, they just have too much influence now.
No it hasn’t. These companies been trash before the buyout.
They forget what their service is for (playing anime) and who their competition is (piracy). Their fight should be exclusively to be a MORE convenient service than looking for piracy.
As long as they don't return to their role, the problem and the controversies will continue.
Competition? More like no contest! Who would choose to waste money on a censored terribly-translated inferior product that is riddled with ads, instead of the free uncensored accurately-translated ad-free superior product?
@@ThePopo543 That was the point. They should stop censoring the shows and injecting their own politics. Just put up proper subtitles and host servers that can handle the load. People are not subscribing because they want the other crap they offer.
The only thing they should add past proper subtitles and bandwidth for the servers is a proper comment system like disqus which most pirate sites use for people to talk about the episodes.
@@ThePopo543 That's why I say it's a matter of convenience. Piracy is not always easy. So the official service has to convince the user that it is worth spending money for the convenience and practicality of their service.
I used to sail the torrent seas and finding good torrents of content wasn't always easy. Bad bootleggs, no subs, or bad subs, bad bit rate and resolutions. Free gets you shite, paying should get you convienence and quality. But monopolies like crunchy make it difficult.
@Blackronin357 Exactly. So if a company becomes more inconvenient than looking for good torrent sources, we will download anime via torrent anyway. At least there are a lot of Fansubs out there that are full of more competent people than in many streaming companies.
I blame SONY for this, ever since they brought Funimation back in 2017 or 2018, Funimation now Crunchyroll have been unhinged without Gen Fukunaga's leadership.
Yep
Exactly! I never understood how after the acquisition, Crunchyroll was the service they decided to keep in the market (over Funimation). I was very close to getting a Funimation subscription (before I heard of the merger), then I decided to wait. Funimation just seemed to be the more professionally run of the two.
Yea typical Sony for ya😂
dunno why japan hasnt made their own operation to monetize anime better
Historically, it was because their English is really bad and they outsourced everything without checking their proxy, or their overseas customer base. Now, they have a huge issue with licensing and fighting monopoly...
Cos licensing is more profitable and less risky. Setting up a streaming site has huge overheads, when someone comes and license your shows you just take money and wipe your hands off any financial risks.
Toei has long preferred to just sell rights to a localizer and just cash the royalty checks. They didn't want to get their hands dirty. Not for evil reasons but they used to admit they didn't understand what other countries needed out of their content or how to make it approachable. They didn't want to do a terrible job at it so it was better to license it out and let experts do it. Things have changed.
The Japanese government actually did and nobody used it. It was part of the whole "Cool Japan" initiative.
The problem is that America is very good at marginalizing 2D animation, and Hollywood is very good at marginalizing cultural imports. Anime is both of those things. To be clear, there is plenty of demand for Japanese animation in the US, but that will never be acknowledged with the kind of mainstream support that would make it worthwhile for animation companies to establish US branches and work directly with the US market. It will always make more sense for Japanese companies to just sell the rights to someone else that specializes in exporting to the US.
Any concerns about translation quality or staffing are purely technical things that can be worked around or fixed with lots of money. The problem is, Japanese animation is really not a money-maker, *even in Japan*, so nobody wants to go spend a bunch of cash fighting Hollywood. They can't even pay their own staff and are surviving purely off of taking advantage of the vocational awe of animators.
@@SuperSmashDolls I don’t know where you get these ideas but it is all BS, don’t try to blame the problem on Hollywood when the issue is solely on Japan’s side.
First Cool Japan initiative only grants cheap loans to companies who wants it, they did not set up any government streaming services. but in the end it was all corruption cos the money went to the sector which least needed it - which was AKB48 idols cos the producer was connected to government officials, which is the reason during Cool Japan there were “sister” groups popping up all over in Asia cos they got free money to do such promotions overseas. Also another butch went to government official relatives which put up fake “cultural export” companies overseas and pocketed the money, whereas the anime sector got almost nothing from Cool Japan, and it was wildly criticised as being corruption by the anime sector.
Also otaku market in Japan is HUGE, and licensing money is also HUGE. Anime collaborations in Japan is in pitch fever cos it brings in lots of money for local companies, and In fact anime/manga/games is Japan’s biggest cultural export and America is the biggest anime licensee outside of China, but the anime industry lacks representation in Japanese politics so they always get screwed over by local politics which consists of old Japanese boomers that are out of touch and thinks anime/manga are shameful degenerate entertainments, that was one of the reason the author of Love Hina Ken Akamatsu went into politics.
Hollywood and America has nothing to do with any of this.
Let's not forget the many people who canceled their memberships in protest over them removing the comment section; by far, the highlight of their website.
That's why they lost my subscription. They were getting my money every year for over ten years prior to that. I was already not happy with the new site design, and the removal of features like the ability to upload a custom pfp, and the fact that the price has only increased is basically an insult.
Comment 😂😂😂😂
@darkprinc979
For people that subscribed mid 2022, please explain their old site design 🙏
I remember in 2019 or 2020, Funimation wouldn't let people cancel their subscriptions.
I still don’t know why people care about a comment section😂
As much as I dislike Crunchyroll sometimes, it would suck if it shut down. Doubt there could be another legal streaming platform with such a huge anime catalogue. But yeh, CR needs to get their shit together.
i have a feeling if they did then all the anime rights would be split between netflix ..prime and hulu meaning needing to spend more money for stuff here
CR didn't help much to anime industry since its conception, so to speak.
As a matter of fact, it hurt it more.
It´s probably time for you to build your own catalogue locally 😉
Although i understand it´s kinda expensive to do.
Crunchyroll was ORIGINALLY a pirate site
Yeah, Crunchryroll to clean up their act, they have the largest Legal Streaming catalog, it'll be sad if we loose it.
This is 2nd biggest piece of anime news I've heard today. The 1st being that Angel Studios is making a Christian anime with some very big anime VAs in it.
I'm not even Christian and I'd watch that unironically
What show?
Seriously? I'm gonna have to look this up
Actual christian or US christian?
The name of the show is Gabriel and The Guardians, produced by Angel Studios. Johnny Young Bosch is the star and leading actor in the series as well as many other heavy hitters of the VA community. And the show looks polished as hell.
I hope that this actually happens would save the Anime Industry quite a lot of hassle
I doubt things will automatically get better. Things will be under new management if it does close. Sony is basically a hydra at this point.
@@mrconroy4672 No worries so is the Piracy world. If they don't improve then we won't support its that simple
please lord let this happen. it couldnt happen to a more deserving company
they dont deserve it lmao
they deserve worse
Adobe deserves this even more
Yes please Heavenly Father may Crunchyroll shut down for good!
It won't happen they got over 15 million paid subscribers and Sony money
The Japanese studios need to set up their own streaming site with their own libraries and farm off their merchandise sales to established retailers like Amiami. Dealing with inventory and customer service is expensive.
The problem with Amiami is shipping cost. US fans have gotten spoiled by free or quick shipping. I don't like paying 500yen for a book and $35 to ship it and I don't think anyone else would enjoy that either.
Sonic 3 and news about Crunchyroll getting shutdown in the SAME WEEK?! Its peak after peak after peak lol.
What happened to sonic 3
@@SanuramSanu It came out this week
@smug_baboon and was F awesome! Shame they didn't have the full game "cast" (by that I mean characters, not specifically the VAs), or used "All of Me". Oh, and "Live and Learn" was cut short instead of playing for the whole climax.
@@HenshinFanatic I mean I can't really say since I'm only watching the movie tonight, but from your comment is sounds promising!
@smug_baboon oh yeah, it's probably the best of the three movies. Just wish they had done more and included the bat and pink hedgehog into the plot. At least the mid credits teaser (after the flashy credit sequence but before the scrolling-text-on-black-background credit sequence) begins to make up for it.
Sony needs to blacklist all these malicious localizers. They have gotten away with altering the source material for far too long.
Crunchyroll allows bad localizers to destroy these stories, and Sony would be fools to allow it to continue.
If they aren't already responsible themselves for making that happen.
@@TheRmbomo They are for sure. Check the videogame division of Sony.
Sony is big into censorship themselves. They're part of the problem.
Chrunchyroll needs competition. They dont have any.
The High Seas
Some new thing can come forth and then have some other thing for competition. Piss on Crunchyroll. They started as pirates, weren't very successful and then got their big break for screwing over a rival pirate (fansub) who had a better product than them. I wish Crunchyroll the very worst. They deserve it.
I honestly think that all big companies end the same way, they expand too fast, they get too greedy and refuse to accept that its more profitable to just stop expanding at one poins and keep trying to stay in that good golden zone, and they stop being down to earth only having their heads counting their money in the clouds. while the company suffers. It feels like there is a limit to how big a company should get until it just isn't worth it anymore, like look how souless disney has become,
It largely depends on their attitude towards their customers. Valve is basically a monopoly when it comes to pc video game distribution through Steam, but they got there because they are the best at what they do, not because they were merged with the competition. Meanwhile the people that like anime, also like their community aspects, and Crunchyroll has been eroding that aspect away while raising the price and just overall wasting money.
@@darkprinc979 but that shows how good valve actualy are, they never got that ego that the rest did, Valve got to a good point in their game creations took a break from that, and started hosting games instead, and it just grew, never felt like valve forced it more like the fans liked it so much that it grew on its own, and valve didn't even try to become a monpoly, it just happened thats the insane part, imagine getting a monopoly by just existing, but it became that through time, in a slow and calm way without fucking over the fans, and i would say that is why valve lives,
@@Rasaborn Yes, exactly. Being a monopoly in and of itself is not a bad thing, it's all about whether or not the company in question got their monopoly by just providing the best value, and whether or not they maintain their monopoly by continuing to do so. I would say that so far Valve is just the best at what they do, and their success is their reward.
In the case of anime streaming in the U.S, the waters are a bit muddled. Who would legally be counted as having the monopoly here? I'm not sure if it's Sony, who bought up the two major streaming services and through Crunchyroll also the goods distribution, or if it's Crunchyroll since everything was merged under their brand. Either way, there is a monopoly here and it wasn't built by providing the best value, it was built artificially.
Let's not forget that who's in charge plays a MASSIVE PART! If I remember correctly Crunchyroll was bought out by Sony at one point and it did nothing but go downhill from there. Prior to that Crunchy was at least decent, but the change in leadership led to it immediately flushing itself down the toilet.
Imagine what will happen to steam once Lord Gaben moves on, and whoever takes over replaces all the upper management with their own pawns. Look at Apple after Steve Jobs, look at Disney after Walt. The real killer for companies is when...bad people, greedy people, wicked people take over, they then immediately run it into the ground to pad their pockets full of temporary cash. Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt what good has already created. What needs to be monitored is the morality of people with power / wealth, especially when in business and politics. Too bad the psychopaths are already in place to prevent that.
@@VoiceOvaGuy Sadly crunchy was kinda in bad hands before that too, They tried to make their own "anime" by hiring a Tumblr author that added their own Self insert transperson into the show,
Crunchyroll deserves to get shutdown after everything they have done.
they dont
@ Then do you agree that they should have an overhaul in management? Because as long as the people who are making the industry worse are gone from Crunchyroll, that will be fine too.
Stealing the subscribers' money to make High Guardian Spice and Ex-Arm instead of paying Japanese animators and creators. That is the snap that made viewers quit.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 Was Ex-Arm good I've it was terrible heard the Manga was good
They wont
In the pirate site I use. I get to choose to load comments if I want to read it.
3:28 Sony+ would be a crazy subscription service. One to spit at Disney+. But would it end up in the same place is the question? We'll see.
Available only in certain regions and overpriced af. Do you really want that?
@@Morpheus-pt3wqNO
@Morpheus-pt3wq No, but do you think Sony isn't already thinking about doing exactly that? I'll leave that terrifying thought for now, but Sony absolutely wants to compete with Disney, in every possible way.
Gotta say 5% of sales in not 5% of volume/income. What they cut wasn't cheap trinkets. For instance I maintain a service for a client which handles around 8-12% of sales, but these are around 50 of the overall volume/income.
People complained about Funimation back it the day and I said Crunchyroll would be Worrse; nobody listened to me...
I personally hate funimation more because of what they did to animelab before they shut down
Both own by sony and this is why is all this is happening
@@salmonfish5314sony did that since they owned Funimation
Dattebayo! Fuck everyone else.
They brought it to themselves. I cancelled my Crunchy Roll account just before covid due to poor customer support & often down when I would log in.
Just like how their 'Spider-Man Villains' universe has been A failure.
Even if Crunchyroll ceases to exist Sony will be there to make another alternative. It's Sony that we should be worried about; trojan horse to anything Japanese.
As long as it’s Sony Japan; it should be fine.
@@apricotmadness4850 Why would it be Sony Japan when they have an American branch to handle that?
The funny thing is that they keep buying stuff because they can't make it work. Sony HAD Crackle, pushed that across their network, and still didn't get people on.
@@darkprinc979they should let ANIPLEX handle it
Americans mishandling Japanese IPs. I never saw that before, no sir. 💀
Thank God Crunchyroll are closing doors. Maybe now Japan grow some spine and create an anime site themselves, ffs!
VISA and Mastercard would probably bully the Japanese site into shutting down.
Next year: "We here at sony would to announce our new anime streaming service Funimation."
Funimation already had a bad rep and bringing it back would likely mean having to honor the "purchases" that they no longer had to honor when they got rid of that streaming service. It will be a new name.
Crunchyroll got rolled up new pack in the air its gas or what.
They should just hire their fans to help run the company.
A company so far removed from its customers is not a company at all.
Because it can't keep us company.
I'm surprised that it took till December for something like this to come out. I was expecting an article like this to come out in October.
This hurts me a lot. I hate Crunchyroll with a passion. But I'm also worried that if they shut down that anime dubs and more in the US might struggle for a bit.
Crunchyroll shutting down? I couldn’t be happier.
I don't see them shutting down Crunchyroll. A rebrand is more likely. Great video! Very informative.
Pretty much. That is why they shut down Funimation's streaming as CR had the better rep at the time.
Sony will start up a new streaming service then shift all the CR stuff over and pull the plug effectively making it the same service under a new name in an attempt to shake the bad rep.
With how big the market is why don't japan try to put their own anime channel on cable at this point
Its called high dive japan made it
@@Geekdom-d8zHiDive is an American company
Right now it's one of the only places that I legally can get a very large selection of anime I still have my subscription just due to wanting to support anime even if it's through a shitty outlet
You're supporting streaming more than you are anime. If you want to support the anime industry better you should buy physical releases. Yes, they are more expensive and less convenient than streaming, but at least you know your money is going to the series you're buying instead of funding lavish offices for Crunchyroll staff and woke garbage like High Guardian Spice.
@@darkprinc979woke woke woke 😂😂😂
You’re definitely doing the opposite of supporting anime if you have a subscription of CR. They have made the anime community worse, (filled with tourists and new gen’s) (treat their subscribers bad) (a bunch of heads that no nothing about anime looking down on us working there) (lots of censorship etc…. Even their cringe anime awards where they invite real celebrities like Megan the stallion or the stranger things cast to talk about anime… they always pay normie celebs to talk about anime…. That’s bad. You can support in better ways.
@Saiki-lp1inmy guy having more people enjoy anime isn't a bad thing stop being an elitist
You're not supporting anime, lol, they get all of the proceeds. You'd support anime more by just buying the dvds/bulrays/boxsets
I was a CR member for a long time. My final straw was removing comments but it was lots of little things that lead me to cancel it.
Last time I was this early, COVID-19 wasn’t a thing
2 things they can cut straight away
1. The gaming division need to be dropped focus on streaming anime
2. Get rid of the WOKE DEI BULLSHIT!! Respect the original works and stop trying to push that shit in
Don't forget the forced censorship.
Keep the woke dei things. Don't want to share the platform with neo-nat-c peeps.
@mementomori7825 you woke fascist!
@@mementomori7825 you woke fascist
@@solidustiger9639 want to see a fascist, look in the mirror.
Japan needs to bring the management of anime production back to Japan. Just do all the dubbing in-house. I'm sure there are plenty of foreign nationals in Japan that will gladly do faithful translations. There would be far less red tape from western companies with their selective morality.
There are lots of gaijin but not many who are good at voice acting. This IS a talent and skill. Other issues are gaijin who may not have appropriate work visas and won't be available for further recording. Besides, AI translation and VA is in the works. It may become a simple step during production.
Dub?
Nobody want that
Sub is the best
If streaming services switched to free and ran 1 series of ads in the middle per episode like adult swim and took less of a cut id bet they would be more successful.
Indeed. Very successful for anime fans
I say good riddance
Indeed.
Same hope it shuts down
Yep!
I miss being able to read comments from users on the crunchyroll service.
Good comments like recommendations and user reviews.
Then they canned that feature because homosexual anime/boy love titles got an number of discriminatory derogatory comments.
Even though commments were able to be reported and removed after reports were received.
GOOD
Man, season 2 of Dragon Maid dub had by far the most misandrist line I've ever heard and I don't really hear people talking about it. I was giving the dub a second chance, but that made give up on it.
Funny that they never credited the dub script writer for season 2, so I have no idea who to avoid or be cautious of in future dubs.
Don't watch dubs at all you filthy pleb.
Dragon Maid was dubbed in my home language (Spanish). While it was 100% accurate. Guess what it's still trash.
Spanish relies on horribly outdated method of translation. As in, direct literal translations. Makes dialogue very awkward to listen to.
Voice acting doesn't help either. It's laughably bad. It's why sub is superior
Ironic cause Spanish sub has its own set of issues.
Oh yeah I remember that to this day I've never watch Dragon maid is the MANGA worth checking out.
IMO whole Dragon maid anime is perfectly summed up by the skits present on youtube. There is no point in watching the whole thing.
Lately, many other anime series are like that.
Well, that shit happened in Dragon Maid, a series I don’t give a shit about, so I guess that’s why I missed it
Pretty sure either Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial admitted to writing that line in a series of tweets about a year ago. Pretty sure Rev says desu made a video about it this time last year.
I agree with you about the fan engagement. I used to spend a ton of time in their forums. Now, I have to remind myself to go check for new episodes.
Time for a new pirate site to become legit
The only reason I don’t want them shut down is that it’s the only place I can watch bsd. My old anime streaming app has been having a lot of connectivity issues with the servers lately ao-
If its true, nothing of value is lost.
Considering Kyoto Animation are fine with Sony ruining anime, it makes sense to have Kanna from Maid Dragon be sad about Crunchyroll shutting down.
Crunchyroll has a gaming division
?! That’s the first I’m hearing of this
Shitty mobile games
OH GOD PLEASE CLOSE DOWN!!!!!!
Since Toonami depends on Crunchy, what's going to happen now?
Adult Swim Aka Toonami definitely has the resources to get subtitles and Such, But Zavlav would never allow it.
@@reverseshin Not to mention the dread CEOs have been facing after the Brian Thomson incident
@@reverseshin poor Cartoon Network
What should've happened from the start.
WB being who should've bought CR.
@@dylives7667 Warner Bros isn't Warner anymore. So no it wouldn't work. Also Crunchy came after Cartoon Network Toonami shut down in 2008. CN and Warner Bros were the original titans for anime in the 90s and 2000s but fell later on. And the new CN ceo didn't like anime (yeah Death Note and other anime still aired at night on Adult Swim Action in the 2008 to 2012 anime drought) but the CEO at that time wouldn't even BAT an eye towards it for daytime CN.
Sorry if I wrote a paragraph but overall Warner was becoming less Warner Bros over the years and that wouldn't happen.
While Crunchyroll may be annoying people in Japan, its not in an financial issues right now. If we look at the dynamics of the Crunchyroll app itself, we will notice that it's growing quite actively, by 34% annually from $211M net revenue in April 2022-March 2023 to $282M in April 2023-March 2024. As for its lead in anime, then this is eroding which is expected.
I’m a pirate 🏴☠️💀
It doesn’t matter to me 🧌
Ayyy matey, the sea is great to sail🏴☠
AYE, AYE SHIPMATE!!! 🫡
I love Houshou Marine as well 😉😉
then you are not helping anime if you pirate it
Hoist up the main sail arrrrr!
With the way anime is rn, changing the name is not enough. as long as were aware that its their anime distributor the community will scrutinize it. Even if not, the anime community has been burned many times and lacks trust. what ever come along next they're not just gonna be able to say more than "hey look guy's we got anime". there gonna have to put in the work and guaranty the quality we haven't been getting.
A pirating website has less shamelessness than Crunchyroll.
I like thier ad version, and was watching shows on it. But a few months after signing up and ONLY watching with ads, they locked me out do to the fact I'm region locked. That's dumb. Then when Sony bought them, I was still told I was region locked when I signed in.
Later I found out that I had to have a PAID SUBSCRIPTION to watch thier shows, because they did away with ad watching version, but didn't let anyone know.
Why I stopped supporting them, and I never cared for thier new channel they brought in last year where they only show shows that thier ALOUD to show, and you had to pay to watch the rest that wasn't a loud.
I used to pay for crunchyroll. I honestly thought they were a godsend for anime fans. No more having to download my stuff on dubious websites. But once I realized how much they were altering the original works I quit. I will not pay to see my favorite animes vandalised. I don't even watch it free so I won't give them ad revenue.
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You're not wrong. I get paid to watch English Dub Anime for a Review website and they don't always bother to translate when it's necessary for certain scenes involving Subs such as characters exchanging text messages, signs in the scenery, or differernt languages spoken outside of english. (For instance, certain characters in Golden Kamuy are capable of speaking in Russian and despite the Dub having characters accurately speak it, it's not English subbed for anyone to understand. You'd have to turn on the sub with the Dub just to fill in those particular story gaps.)
The pirate's life lives on
Enjoy your cancellations.
Until your forced to pay subscriptions to those pirated websites or they shut down, because small donations don't do a thing. Then again, big companies do have the power to shut down those websites as well, and unless Crunchyroll does fix its issues, then people will have to depend on Disney, Netflix, Amazon Prime, or Hulu or even HiDive.
And if you plan on buying all the anime titles you want as physical copies, you better have more than $6000+ on you because I bought $2000+ worth of anime for my collection and I don't even have half the anime I want in my collection.
Was subbed to Crunchyroll for years. Cancelled a few months ago because I couldn't stand them anymore. There was always something. The mail controversy was the final straw for me, but just before that I had a nearly 3 month period where their app for my Roku TV just quit working. They support was basically useless and kept saying there was no issue and to contact Roku. Despite countless other people posting about the exact same issue, Roku telling me the issue was on Crunchyroll's end, and all my other TV apps were working as normal. Couldn't tolerate it anymore, so I went back to sailing the high seas. 🏴☠️
Sony itself has the negative PR. Replacing crunchyroll won't clear any negative sentiment.
They had it coming for a long time, what really sealed the deal was them removing the comment section because they got butt hurt over words on one shows comment section. It was just a slick way to artificially inflate shows they want to make seem more popular than they actually are
2:01 The one thing that threatens Sony currently is consumer interest in them.
Everything else has lead to this
FINALLY, i hope to see a new face in the streaming service scene that actually goes above and beyond, or at least does better than Crunchyroll
Crunchyroll should’ve been shutdown a long while ago.
Remember, business is still business. You need to make sales, not just sell. Customer service and management matters.
When Crunchyroll was chosen over Funimation, I knew the situation was going to end in tears.
Funimation sucked even more, take off your rose tinted glasses. It's more like Funimation bought out CR, and they kept CR's name cause it had a better reputation.
Funimation had worse servers, worse ui, worse webpage, worse subtitles, and more controversies with the dub actors, and when the merge occured, CR went downhill
@@MrTom23 CR was always bad as well. Funimation was better than CR from a technical standpoint when the merger happened. Post-merger things just got worse. Instead of taking the good things and making things better the worst aspects took over. The crash and burn of CR has been a long time coming.
We need a new player to come in and fill the void.
@@NorthwoodsHunterWITechnical? Are you serious?
The one thing I did not want was Funi's devs working on the site and that came to pass. The worst things in Funi's website are now in Crunchyroll - harder to find what you want due to stupidly detailed organizing, autoselecting dub (thanks to said organizing), long or never load times on ads if you are a free watcher... list goes on.
We got none of the good things because they hadn't bothered fixing what Crunchyroll broke on their site which was the watchlist and episode scroll.
@@NorthwoodsHunterWI From a technical stand point? Lol, maybe only the player was better since they implemented the html5 player first, but the service constantly went down, the dubs they did where shit localizations and the web page sucked all around. CR pre merge was miles better than funimation, even with it's flaws
2:15 Companies with that much power, wealth, and influence can still screw up. Happens all the time and most never learn.
Question is will HiDive finally have the rights to show their shit in more countries now
FR most EU countries mostly just have crunchyroll as a legal streaming service with a good variaty of anime.
Remember when crunchyroll used to stream anime on twitch? found a lot of great anime that way. RWBY, Gabriel dropout, Kemono friends, etc.
Wait a second..... I only pirate anime (insert boondocks image here)
I've been using CR through Amazon for a few months. I was rather happy to them have a channel on Amazon, but it's also been spotty. I've come on episodes that did not have any English, sub or dub. In some episodes, the subs lagged well behind the audio dialogue. It hasn't been all bad, I've been able to see and follow some good series, but there have been problems, too, and it seems those problems aren't being fixed.
Sony killing another app
Guys, is anyone knows about crunchyroll selling the personal information?
They need to get it together...I need quality stuff to pirate
You're part of the problem.
@@k1ndr3dspirits no there was already a problem I just found my own solution
@@k1ndr3dspiritsinstead of saying BS, actually look into the problem.
Publishers take all the money and pay animators nothing. Piracy does not even effect the animators because they dont ever see that money.
In actuality Piracy is doing more to change the industry for the better, as it effects the inhumane profit margins of publishers.
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When Crunchyroll was by fans for fans things were better. The article cites that that they tend not to want to hire employees that say they are fans. So it there any wonder CR seems out of touch lately? To me most the Crunchyroll workers that mattered were either fired(in house programmers were the 1st to go even before the Sony buy out) or left when they saw the writing on the wall due to the buyout. So what you are left with is Funimation workers who were doing shady things as Funimation and now it carries over to the Crunchyroll name. One of the reasons why Sony picked Crunchyroll instead of Funimation to be the face of their anime streaming service is because of all the bad blood Funimation has generated over the years of its existence.
lol CR was never by fans for fans. It started off as a pirate site which ripped off fansubs they didn’t translate themselves.
@@nanaholic01 Basically a anime youtube with a lot of social media(which is now all gone) built in. Besides, commenting and reviewing for each anime there were forums and groups you could join. Each member was given what was basically their own page they could dress up as they wanted and share much like MySpace back in the day. Once a month paying members were given a few codes to give out anyone to get free access to anything on for a few days. To say CR was never by fans for fans have either forgotten the actual past or wasn't around to know the true.
Does the Current Crunchyroll CEO not see what issues Crunchyroll is getting any into? He needs to be ashamed of this. The Current CEO needs to be fired as soon as possible. Us fans had enough
#firerahulpurini
Agreed; it starts at the top. He obviously doesn't know what he's doing and needs to be removed.
I tried watching something and got whacked with 14 unskipable ads pre roll, mid roll, I did not have the patience to finish. The ads break immersion. Genuinely surprised to hear they're closing. It's the suits. If they ran it lean like Craigslist, this wouldn't be a video.
It would be funny if they shut down Crunchyroll just to bring back FUNimation.
More like a rebrand than a shutdown.
I stopped watching Crunchyroll back in the day when I heard that they were removing the free option with ads because I was already on the edge with watching them since I knew that they were doing some bad things that weren't good for the customer and the Japanese companies and mangakas.
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Crunchyroll is literally so expensive, why are they surprised people who love anime, can't afford it
Ha. I just closed my crunchy roll account due to the closure of the comments and loss of community feel. So this report is really interesting, especially comments on people not retaining their subscriptions.
Hope there’s a free uncensored platform for us to see anime.
There is. And it's also free.
But illegal.
Well, at least for you english speakers.
Over here at Mexico we're already watching anime dubbed and, sometimes, free.
I doubt that will ever take place simply due to the fact of corporate structure.
In many ways, for that to occur it would probably be a pirate site and the Japanese are already cooking up a software to shut such sites down.
Yar har fiddle dee dee...
a pro censorship company wants to walk away from another pro censorship company?. if crunchyroll does close and sony opens a new studio, the only thing will probably change is the amount of censorship from mild to maybe the extremes, thats my guess.
Again,I'd rather stop watching anime than subscribe to crunchyroll. Seriously,if japan needs to come up with their own streaming site with accurate translations,uncensored,complete episodes,and have every genre in it,and cut off the middle man. I will glady subscribe to it if they make one.
They did it's called high dive
No fuck japan
Sucks because I remember when Crunchyroll had like 6 Anime's streaming with one being Bakaretsu Tenshi - the ever growing cast back in 2004. I was happy to see them grow, but I always loathed their website and how they managed everything from how they handled streaming, and god forbid trying to read Manga on the site. I was happy to see more sites streaming anime like Netflix/Hulu etc.
Just bring the Funimation streaming service back and have a proper syndication with each other 🙏, I really don't want Crunchyroll to shutdown 😭, I am really accustomed to it, this is really bad
Funimation isn't coming back. That's done and dusted. Part of that probably has to do with Funimation's own scandals before they were shut down. Unfortunately, it seems like Crunchyroll is also on the path of self-destruction. Hopefully they can get better management in there, but I won't hold my breath.
They won't shout down they got over 15 million paid subscribers and Sony money
There's other anime websites you know.
@@sideburngthepeacebringer27 Maybe, but none of them are as big as Crunchyroll, and certainly none of them have the community features that Crunchyroll used to have. How many streaming sites out there? Only anime-centered ones like Crunchyroll count, because for example Netflix or Amazon could drop anime entirely and not care, because that was never a core part of their appeal and they could drop it with little to no worries. I know there's Hi-Dive, but beyond that I would expect that any other streaming services that might exist are going to be publisher exclusive. I'm not including piracy sites in here either, because this discussion is primarily about legal avenues.
The one thing I like quite a bit from Crunchyroll is their bitrate. It's vastly higher than Netflix, Netflix specifcally has terribly look bitrate.
as an Asian from Asia, and this is what i always say, the WEST is the PROBLEM
Crunchy has its issues, but with the way that article focused on the negatices, it really feels like a hit piece.
One good new thing is how much they've improved on getting anime movies their deserved place in theatres in the west. From DBZ, to Spy X Family to Demon Slayer. Its gotten a lot better there.
Remember when Crunchyroll was a great anime pirating website? Oh how the mighty falls...
Well, good riddance.
I left as soon as they got rid of their free watch tier (I was willing to wait a week later if it meant I could watch for free with ads -even though ad blocker gets rid of them). As soon as everything, including 30+ year old anime, became “Premium only” I left for “Alternative Mirrors” and never looked back. Either way I refuse to pay to watch anime unless it is already part of a streaming service I subscribe to.
Crunchyroll sold out years ago and its not surprising, there are so may ways to support anime ethically and legally other than streaming. Physical media will always be king but I will sail the high seas like I've been doing till the Blu-ray of my favorite series comes out.
Side Note: You have been one of the few Anime TH-camrs that talks about important news about the anime community. Thank you for your hard work Chibi.
Merry Christmas to all and stay safe where ever you are.
I find this interesting, a few months back I decided to stop Crunchy, though it was the only streaming platform I was currently paying for. What convinced me was the fact that they removed the comment section, to some a dumb reason, but I really enjoyed reading the comments for a series I was watching and after they removed it I was paying the same amount monthly to have a worst experience, so that didnt made sense to me.