How to Make a "Cookie Dough" Forge (Starlite Part 3)
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- In this video I show how to make a forge using a kitchen-made fireproof lining. Thanks to Bespoke Post for sponsoring this video. New subscribers can get 20% off their first box with code NIGHTHAWK here: bspk.me/nighthawk
If you missed my previous video about homemade intumescent coatings (starlite) check it out here: • History of a Lost Supe...
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-Ben
If you missed my previous video about DIY fire resistant coatings and the history of Starlite you may want to check it out here: th-cam.com/video/0IbWampaEcM/w-d-xo.html
I was curious about this very application after watching your video on starlite.
Are you able to get it hot enough to melt copper?
Somehow you got me to sit through the entire sponsorship. I think I was just waiting for the parrot :)
@@christkandosii3337 I'm not sure. That's a lot tougher challenge than aluminum.
@nightHawkinLight not sure if you are anywhere near new england, i frequently run across access to strange materials and components from my job (recycling technology, a lot of weird edge case tech flows through). if you are in my region i might be able to help source materials for projects.
3:13 Let's turn on the torch *stares into my soul*
O_o
He did the mind meld on all of us.
that was very scary
Brother....
Yes
I'm a knife-maker and when you first showed us your version of starlight, a forge liner was my first thought, but I never got around to testing it. Glad it will work.
Same
Did you ever get a chance to try this out? I'm curious about the temperature it can reach. Can you actually forge weld with it?
@@BSpinoza210 I have not had time myself, unfortunately. In process of moving workshops now, but I imagine the main issue would be outer layers flaking off. Still, it should work well enough and would be cheap and easy to replace
i thought about using it for selective hardening, and maybe a plate for stuff to cool on. i got a background in chemistry and am working on a batch right now, i modified it a little by adding magnesiumphosphates. quite excited how it will turn out.
@@littleh4xx0r let me know how it goes! I use a product called NuClay for differential hardening. Works great and dries quick. It's also water based, so it cleans up well afterwards, too!
Biscuit recipe looked lit until he added borax. :D
Victorians actually added borax to milk to make it appear more fresh. They did many other things that seem crazy today.
You can actually eat modest amounts of Borax. It has the same LD50 as salt.
Still thinking about somehting to replace borax in places where it's not a common house product
Lmao yeah, replace the soda with its heat processed sister and it's essentially Chinese alkaline noodle dough
@@robertoaguiar6230 yeah I think Borax is illegal in some places too (UK and EU) right?
Your channel is like 5 minute crafts two good to be true stuff, but it is true and the most awesome thing ever
8 minute, 34 second crafts
Except this channel is actually good unlike five minute crafts
@@ieatbatteries9998 exactly
*too
5 minute crafts is full of BS, half of the stuff they do makes no sense at all. If i had to say this channel reminds me more of what King Of random was when Grant (RIP) Was doing the projects.
I've always wanted to test out some metal melting but never got enough money to buy a decent forge.
I'll definitely test this out!
You're a genius.
The King of Random has a really good, cheap build, but you should invest in a good crucible. I've been using mine for over 3 years. It needs a little repair (this video inspired me to try this putty for patching), but works really well.
riuphane do you mind sharing where you bought it from? I also want to melt some metal but I don’t have a good crucible, and don’t know much about what brands/sellers are good.
@@ChristianMoore1227 I got a MorganMMS Salamander Super Crucible and it has treated me very well. I don't remember where I bought it from, somewhere online for about $50 and it's pretty big, especially for hobby work
@@ChristianMoore1227 try making your own crucible, it's worked for me
@@forgedinferno5033 what do you make it out of? I've been wondering if tin cans would work for melting aluminium
Paint Can works great for this!
I think TKOR made a backyard forge something like this out of a small trash can. Metal buckets are available too.
Metal buckets seem to work best. Good and thick metal, sturdy, small enough to still have a handle, easy to drill into, etc. All of my new furnaces are of the metal bucket type and all different sizes. The paint cans also seem to degrade quickly compared to the metal buckets. Most large metal buckets are fairly cheap as well.
I was thinking the same thing!
it's a good way to upcycle them,better than simply throwing them into a dump....thank you.
@@BackYardScience2000 Be careful though. If they're zinc coated (galvanized), the fumes can make you ill, I.E., "metal fume fever".
FYI. If you can’t find a metal coffee can you can definitely find a metal paint can. They sell empty ones at home improvement stores if need be.
One trick to extending the foam life would be to coat it with low sodium milk of magnesia. It will dry and fire to a magnesia coating. Magnesia made in this way will have a melting point in excess of 2500C. Adding a little borax will lower the melting point but make the coating more durable in handling. You can apply several layers and build up a very durable coating.
Interesting.
Nice
what if instead of water I use milk of magnesia?
@@fabiohofer2160 good question
That's an interesting idea. Might try it out if I ever make one of these.
I wonder if there could be a counteracting effect where the higher melting point of the magnesia ends up inhibiting the intumescence of the starlite. Definitely would be interesting to see it tested :)
Oh heck yeah. This is super handy information to know, super useful, super cheap (like omfg how is it possible it only takes like $15-$20 and like 20 minutes to make this stuff?!) Thank you an absolute ton for sharing things like this with all of us. I've already written down the recipe for this homemade 'Starlite' recipe into my mad scientists notebook as well, and again thank you!
You should check out my old video on a soup can forge also. I used a plaster/sand lining in that one that I think holds up a bit better that this.
Who would win at reinventig starlite? A couple of billion dollar chemical corporations or a youtuber with 20$ of grocery items.
You are correct
I doubt large companies would invest much into starlite because it is not as great as proper industrial insulators.
@@drkastenbrot it might not be as durable or as long lasting, but it would work as a cheap, temporary fix until the proper insulator can be found and installed in the case of a repair. But then again, it's not really something that a company would try to patent because anyone can easily make it and nobody would actually buy it if they can easily make it. Also, the question wasn't would they, but rather who would win.
Obviously, the youtuber with a $20. massive corporations are too tied up in red tape and procedures.
@@torjones1701 That's a lame take that doesn't really withstand critical examination. It's intellectually dishonest to suggest that Boeing's scientists couldn't have figured this out when your only evidence is that they are not using it. The logical conclusion from what we know would be "the material does not have properties that would make it useful for Boeing's business."
Used this to build a forge and used it as a furnace too: I was able to melt silver in this thing! This is amazing, paired it with some cuttlefish casting and literally anyone can get going
U mean u didn’t use a crucible and used the forage as lining ??? Wasn’t liquid silver stuck on to it … how much did u put in before melting and how much weight did u get back ??
@@arunbirla9053 I assume the cuttlefish would serve as the crucible for "cuttlefish casting", no?
I love that you took the time to create ur own take on starlite and made the recipe free, public knowledge. Thank you so much
Ben, I just want to take a sec to thank you for all for time, hard work , awesome content and overall just being a cool guy. Thanks for the Education and entertaining content love your channel man and might I say I love you as well!!! Keep on trucking man thanks again!!
In my DevilForge, I can have molten aluminum in 12-15 minutes from cold.I have a few videos on my channel of it melting and the speeds it will melt. I will have to try your design out for some smaller projects. It looks like a super easy and cheap design!
Nighthawk you're brilliant and the smartest youtuber I have ever watched, I love how you are so humble that you answer our questions and comments, and not only educate us on how to make something but also to explain every little detail of the science behind it, I truly love you.
I've been thinking about trying out blacksmithing and for starters I'm worried to overspend if the experience doesn't turn out positive and i end up moving on, this would certainly help keep cost down and ever since you published the very first starlite video I've thought of this specific application for it. I really am grateful for your work on this matter.
Hopefully this will be one of many projects around this material, cheers!
I like the new profile picture👍🏼
The moment I saw the starlite video I immediately wondered if it could be used in a forge. I'm really glad you tried it! Thanks
What a good channel, I mean, really.
I was thinking about making one of them forges a tad while ago after looking at the starlite video, now nobody's gonna convince me otherwise, thank you for the tutorial, good fella
Thank you for carrying on The King of Random's torch, sort to speak.
You made a fantastic video here. “Inexpensive” here really was inexpensive! Thanks!! I really enjoy all your videos.
I actually made a much smaller furnace a while ago when you released your first video on the subject. The forge worked using a wax fire, and got hot enough to melt small amounts on aluminum foil that I left inside it. It was only a test forge though, and was very small. The insulation worked amazingly though, I could even pick it up while it was on!
As a long time blacksmith who started making gas forges in the early 1980's and who made a large variety of things, I look for sturdiness in a forge liner. If I can't maneuver odd shaped pieces in and out of the forge without damaging the forge badly, it is useless for a lot of the work I've done. That said, it would be useful for forges used for a lot of knife making and work that is easily put in and taken out of the forge. I will make a forge for small work and see how it works for me. Great idea! I rally like your experiments.
This would be great for protecting areas nearby a repair in way of cutting torch (blue wrench, LOL) or welding. Also, an easy ablative replacement for harpoons or similar rocket launching at the backup structure where flame impingement occurs.
Drawback: Your neighbors will think youre bad at backing because it smells like burned cookies.
love how the german comes through, backing haha
Can you add cinnamon to the dough for that special Christmas feeling?
Must suck how you misspelt "baking", and you can't fix it 'cause NightHawk hearted your comment, and if you edited it, the heart would go away.
@@Asdayasman - Easy on the ASSumption... could just as well be an auto-correct oversight.
@@__WJK__ Oh dude I _love_ ass.
I've had all the materials to start black smithing except a forge. Thank you so much for showing me this method to get my passion off the ground!!!!
Great channel my uncle was born out of his time, and memories of him in his workshop garage came flooding back he would have loved your info.
Great to see an application of all of your experiments!
Funny you say that i just suggested he combine it with his gasifier!
Just what I needed!
Your commitment to accessibility makes me so happy.
How timely. Just this week my sister was telling me she wants to do a one-off small bronze cast. I'll definitely pass this video on to her.
I will have to build this melt some aluminum next weekend. Thank you for a great video.
Thank you, thank you so much. I was just getting into knife making and was trying to see how to get a forge for cheap when I got the notification for this video.
This is a good start, and i also have an old video about making a soup can forge that you might be interested in. That one used a plaster and sand lining which works well.
@@Nighthawkinlight thanks I'll definitely check it out
Sir, you are truly a GOD send. I have needed the information on almost all of the videos you have shown for my huge project of making a derigible. I will definitely share my ideas and videos with you when I start the project.
Great video! For anyone struggling finding a large can, Baby powder cans work great!
Thanks for making this video! I'll be doing a side-by-side comparison soon where I test a homemade intumescent-coated forge against my Hell's Forge single-burner forge, so when that happens, I'll update this comment.
Keep on rocking! :)
When you did your first "starlight" video this was my first thought. "Can I line my forge with this?"
I have binge watching your channel lately and to see a new video just now come out is just amazing
I have always wanted to make one of these. I’ll try it sometime because I actually have time. Thank you!
_and when you're done forging, it doubles as a tasty snack!_
Found CodysLab's alt account.
you know theres one guy out there who is gonna take this literally and eat some
Like bread from a toaster.
Just spread some peanut butter on it.
Literally!
I'm that guy.
Not.
I'll definitely build that. I've wanted to build a forge for a long time but I don't have access to refractory materials or even plaster of paris for the DIY refractory. I do have access to baking ingredients and borax so I'll be building this awesome forge in the very near future.
Wow, where do you live?
Far away from any type of material shop. I don't have a car and due to Corona, the bus is reserved to people who actually need it to go to work. Which is not my case.
@@bastienguilbaud5768 oh, that's a shame, hopefully we can get a better quality of life for everyone who needs it soon. I dont know about you, but I'm sure ready. In the meantime, for materials you can't obtain perhaps you could get a friend or family member to mail/ fed-ex you what you need. Best of luck.
Your videos are amazing.
I am all for cost effective DIY and these kind of projects are right up my alley.
I tip my hat to you sir.
Wow, this video went up the day after I started looking for forges and how to make them for my new workshop that I’m building, thanks! Now I can use this until I get a proper forge
I've been calling this formula "hawklite" privately for a while now
Hurrah! I've been waiting for this, Still want to make a portable camping stove with this but I think it would be too fragile.
I'm not sure, it might work for a few trips at least. I don't know that a camping stove really needs a fireproof lining though. A normal steel can usually does fine.
You could take the ingredients with you camping and just mix it and apply to the can when you get to your location. That seems like it would be the easiest way to do it and make sure that it doesn't fall out in route.
I guess it would work great as the insulation of a portable rocket stove, not receiving as much direct heat and beign lighter than other materials I've seen used. Plus you only need small twigs and they go a long way
i just made my home furnace with portland cement as a lining with fire brick. it is cool when melting but super hot to touch afterwards. I might try this one as a lining to reduce heat transfer to the metal casing. hopefully works as intended. thank you for your video! 🎉
I was thinking about how practical this was when i saw your other video, glad to see you talking about it
Very easy and the materials to make it are cheap 👍
I wonder what happens if you burn this stuff without oxygen. Like making charcoal =).
Theoretically it should work fine, as long as you have a sufficiently powerful heat source that doesn't need oxygen. Should even be more durable in the absence of oxygen (as long as you don't have some other oxidizer).
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio I think so too. I was just wondering if this process gives the material some special attributes. It will definitely not smoke or smell after the process.
That's essentially what he already did. The reason this stuff lasts is because it's burning in a relatively low oxygen environment. It would burn extremely fast in an environment with 50-100% oxygen
@@jogandsp maybe. But Experiments are fun and many discoveries were made by practical applications.
In theory it should last longer without oxygen. If your heat source is fuel rich the carbon won't readily burn to CO2.
Your videos are always amazing and very educational always learning something new from all your videos keep up the awesome work you do
AMAZING!!!! Thank you so much for sharing, This will come in very handy for me instead of heating up my big kiln for quick tempering/ & or melting of metals!
Wow. After years of watching you you finally changed your profile picture. I never thought thats ever happen
It usually takes my propane powered blast furnace about 7-8 minutes to warm up enough to melt about 50g of aluminum.
I've been wanting to make knives for a long while and you've just given me the perfect opportunity thank you so much
Excellent advice. I’ll use this for sure. Keep up the great content, I enjoy it very much
"About a thousand grams" if only there were a word for that 🤔😂
He didn't want to frighten the people who think metric measurements are part of a subversive plot.
Lorenzo Paredes how would a kilogram scare someone?
@@hallobre In years past, there was a plan to switch the country to the metric system. There was great opposition.
"Tupound"
@@rwbimbie5854 Yes. The fear was that it was part of a 'plot' to take over the country, as it was when there were efforts to put fluoride in drinking water. Nowadays, the bull***t is that if you get put in the hospital because of Covid 19, you'll die, the real cause of death being that you were intubated, not for any other reason.
Alternatively, for the can, you can buy empty paint cans at home improvement stores.
Great video as always!
Can find them at craft stores, also- Hobby Lobby, Michael’s, etc.🙂
This is amazing, I’ve wanted to try metalworking but didn’t want to put a lot of money into it so even if this isnt permanent solution it’s still a great one, especially since I don’t have to go buy firebricks or anything fancy
I hated my messy sand and plaster coffee can forge. Now I may be able to go back to some small item forging and metal melting. Great work, Sir.
You give ted Cruz and birds a good name. But all kidding aside thank you for spreading knowledge your a great teacher.
Hey if anyone cares, I’m coming up with a cheap concept to pursue knifemaking with that combines my specialties by building an induction heater with starlite on the inside of the copper coils and a MAPP gas flame inside. Haven’t seen a hybrid like that before and I’ve been trying to use starlite for this purpose for a few months now
I don't fully understand your plan but copper will melt under forge temps
@@chrishayes5755 induction coils will melt ferrous materials that are inside them without heating the coils themselves using high frequency AC
This is the solution I've been looking for to eventually cheaply try aluminum casting with my used soda cans to make rings. Thanks!
Great stuff. I love watching your sharing such knowledge
Great I think I'll try it, it's been several months that I'd like to try to melt aluminum and cast it in sand. Do you know how many runs/hours does the 'starlite coating' last in usual conditions ?
Thank you a lot !
It will probably last several hours (I would guess 4ish hrs) of constant run time, but I think repeated heating and cooling cycles will shorten its lifespan.
BREAKING NEWS: Man makes an indestructible compound using grocery items
Edit: No, but really, you're one of kind! Just continue this endless journey, can't wait to see where you get!
You never fail to amaze me! Thank you for sharing
I have tested this using your recipe. I am very impressed, this actually worked! i could not feel any heat on my skin. This honestly works wonders. Thanks so much. I wonder if this can be mixed with sand to make more of a durable refractory. Will have to try it out with this.
I will try this trick
i am willing to make Doremon pendant since long (with zinc)
*GOD BLESS THE NERDS !!!*
Thanks for this amazing idea I can’t wait to make my own I’ve been wanting to get a forge for years now but never had the money
This is a fantastic idea for my use case of metal melting. All linings degrade over time, and low cost is important to me at this point at the expense of somewhat lower durability
When nerds start to become Doomsday Preppers.
Name calling is mature
@@jacoblaszakovits3035 doomsday prepping isn't a bad thing
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 and I never said it was bad in fact my family has a house with three generators for that reason
Instructions were wrong I blew up my building and the government has me
That knife looks really solid. Noticed that they have a "Cheers" and "aged" sections on the website. Definately gonna check that out
Ive been getting materials to cast copper so this is a great starting idea!
Why is this getting so little views?? This is one of the coolest and most useful pieces of content on youtube and it only has 65k views??!! On a channel of 1.6 MILLION! This is one of youtube's fatal flaws; not promoting great content when "the algorithm" doesn't deem it so.
Thank you for this! Now I have yet another project during my time off work!
That is awesome, It reminds me about the carbon residue built up on the bottom of pot and pan,they serve as thermal insulation too but last long.
I may have to build one of these soon. After I get some of my backlogged projects done
One of the best video series on TH-cam
That's really awesome. Well done! Great information!
Been watching your vids for some time now - YOU ROCK! Y'got yourself a new subscriber! :) Quality stuff!
This is perfect for me, I work at a restaurant, all the materials, including the cans, are readily available!
Love the new profile picture, love the video, I can't wait to see what else you can come up with for day to day uses of starlite
used the recipe without borax as temporary insulate when fixing wood stove. worked like a charm.
After watching your previous video on this I was wondering if I could make a paint can forge.
I thought it wouldn't work because the insulating layer would burn through too quickly.
Thanks for proving that it does work. I just bought a torch for this exact project the other day
Lovely. From your last video i took idea and i have make my own 12 v soldering iron and i use your putty and its work so Good more then i imagine. Thanks for wonderful idea.
Stellar as always. I can't wait to make one.
Thank you again, this is what I was looking for.
Awesome job, I'm gonna give it a try
Love your videos! So well done!
Love the content not to mention the research! For the soft flame i adore using rosebud torch tips :)
Refreshing to watch
This video is SO practical, now I’m finally gonna have a forge!
SoI’m binge-watching Nighthawkinlight videos since re-discovering them after the algorithm took them out of my feed. This is the third today, and once again is supremely useful. I’ve wanted a forge for occasional use for a long time, but the hassle of firebricks or commercial refractory mix, finding & modifying a big steel container, etc, etc kept me from making one. This is so dead-simple that I could whip one out tomorrow. It’s finally something I’ll actually do.
Super-kudos and thanks (again) to Nighthawkinlight!
You might want to use a plaster/sand lining instead of the starlight. I found this doesn't last long. Tkor has a good video about making a good forge lining from plaster
Well made video. Looking forward to the next one
I was thinking of putting this putty in a rocket stove and in a forge too. But last time when you said it will eventually burn through, I didn't want to put it to work and build a permanent forge instead. But the idea of making a smaller forge like this, which could be used a couple of times for small jobs is as simple as it gets. This is a really fantastic, simple and cost-effective solution for small jobs... . Right now I have a clay jar with charcoal and a small hand-cranked toy fan for small jobs. I think this will be way cheaper, easier and time-saving.
Here is another thing I thought. Since its pliable and moldable, why not make silicon molds . It will help replace the inner lining faster and we can stock the starlite molds ready for use
I love these starlite related videos!
What a beautiful knife!
Oh that's awesome! I think one of these would pair well with my miniature smokeless fire pit I made out of 2 coffee cans.