A Portrait of Frank Ramsey - Better than the Stars (1978)

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  • The following is a portrait of the life and thought of F. P. Ramsey from a 1978 BBC Radio broadcast. The presenter was Hugh Mellor, and it includes contributions by A. J. Ayer, Richard Braithwaite, Dick Jeffrey, Lord Ramsey, Mrs Lettice Ramsey and I. A. Richards. Excerpts from Ramsey's writings are read by Hugh Dickson and from Maynard Keynes's writings by Gabriel Woolf.
    Memorial Site for the presenter, Hugh Mellor: hughmellor.com
    #Philosophy

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  • @alisadeghi5439
    @alisadeghi5439 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Only the BBC can produce something as fascinating and classy as this.

    • @mattwatson6259
      @mattwatson6259 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *could

    • @plekkchand
      @plekkchand ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not really.

    • @selwynr
      @selwynr ปีที่แล้ว

      The BBC is full of imperialist, capitalist propaganda garbage.

    • @321bytor
      @321bytor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plekkchand Really

    • @languagegame410
      @languagegame410 ปีที่แล้ว

      well-said indeed!

  • @mynameisjefferson3771
    @mynameisjefferson3771 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve always been so fascinated by him. Unbelievably brilliant. The biggest what-if of the 20th century, no doubt.

    • @Achrononmaster
      @Achrononmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also wouldn't have minded if Ramanujan had had a stab at an axiom settling the Continuum Hypothesis or the Riemann Hypothesis.

    • @mynameisjefferson3771
      @mynameisjefferson3771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Achrononmaster Wow, I wasn’t familiar with Ramanujan. Thanks for mentioning him, I just went down a most fascinating rabbit hole!

    • @toddtrimble2555
      @toddtrimble2555 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Achrononmaster Hardy remarked that Ramanujan had little to no idea of what a rigorous proof in mathematics is. In particular, there is no chance he would have made any headway on CH, which is very far removed from his actual interests. I think of Ramanujan as virtually unmatched in the art of formal manipulation, e.g., of infinite sums, infinite products, continued fractions, etc. -- a kind of 20th century successor to Euler. As for RH: expecting him to be able to solve that is almost like expecting Fermat to have actually had a proof of FLT. It's hard or impossible to rule out the possibility, but all indications is that they require methods and techniques far, far beyond anything they could have come up with.

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other big what-ifs include Walter Pitts and Hart Crane.

  • @toddtrimble2555
    @toddtrimble2555 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ramsey, like Turing, was dazzling in the clarity and brilliance of his thought. They both died too early.

  • @languagegame410
    @languagegame410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    enjoyed this very much... thanks for sharing, P.O... keep doin' yo thang!!!

  • @Self-Duality
    @Self-Duality ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A mysterious thinker and man!

  • @johnedwards4394
    @johnedwards4394 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Richard Montague in America and Frank Ramsey of Britain are highly overlooked in scholarship.

  • @nickk6386
    @nickk6386 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video

  • @kmm2442
    @kmm2442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely thanks

  • @luisathought
    @luisathought ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You

  • @nebula1100
    @nebula1100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the name of the paper at the end of the video where he talks about how comparative size isn’t a worry to him? I’d very much like to read the full thing.

    • @nebula1100
      @nebula1100 ปีที่แล้ว

      johnshaplin.blogspot.com/2017/05/is-there-anything-to-discuss-by-frank.html Found it. Here it is if anyone else would like to have a read.

    • @lsdc1
      @lsdc1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “on there being no discussable subject”
      See excerpt (and link to source) at:
      johnshaplin.blogspot.com/2017/05/is-there-anything-to-discuss-by-frank.html

  • @VCT3333
    @VCT3333 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Charles Peirce is another philosopher who needs a editor to collect his disparate writings into a Reader of sorts.

    • @pyb.5672
      @pyb.5672 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our understanding of biology is about to get revolutionized via the integration of Peirce's grand theory of semeiotics int the field. This is paralleled to what's happening in complexity theory.

    • @user-nb3mq3cg8k
      @user-nb3mq3cg8k 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@pyb.5672what is it called?

  • @elilarsen4923
    @elilarsen4923 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    bro looks like thomas shelby

  • @aliasjon8320
    @aliasjon8320 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bookmark: 35:00

  • @sumitrashankarchamoli8547
    @sumitrashankarchamoli8547 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ramsey, turing , Neumann

  • @Catofminerva
    @Catofminerva ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this… Francis of the Filth himself?

  • @anand8310
    @anand8310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    polloooLo.

  • @lawriesmithe
    @lawriesmithe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There ain't half been some clever bastards.

  • @eagleholyengel9198
    @eagleholyengel9198 ปีที่แล้ว

    "....LEF-WING.." BUT Perhaps More OF SOCIAL-JUSTICE CONSCIOUS!.. 😀😀😀😁😁👍👍🙏❤️❤️❤️

  • @eagleholyengel9198
    @eagleholyengel9198 ปีที่แล้ว

    HE SEEMS TO BE A MATHEMATICIAN-PHILOSOPHER!.. RAMSEY THEORY IS VERY MUCH, AH YES MATHEMATICIAN INDEED, MATH-LOGIC THEORIST!.. A FIED I'VE BEEN WORKING "ON-AND-OFF" OVER 10 YRS NOW!!... 😀😀😀😁😁👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

    • @321bytor
      @321bytor ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No need to shout

    • @edomoeli1347
      @edomoeli1347 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They aren't shouting?

  • @Achrononmaster
    @Achrononmaster ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @30:50 it's a pity (a) Ramsey did not understand taxation: it is not a source of the revenue (revenir = "return back") for a monopoly currency issuer, it's a drain (a redemption) from the economy not a source. The source of revenue for the monopoly sovereign issuer is the sovereign issuer (a sovereign always issues by fiat) that's why it was called revenue. So he got that all backwards. And (b) the utility functions used in his "elegant" theory of national savings is stupid, there is no such utility function, it's a fictional notion. Utility in macroeconomics of any worthy meaning is maximum employment at sustainable ecological levels, which for labour means full employment at living wages. A lot of gross mileage has been made out of the more fraudulent utility-value theory (Samuelson and onwards). It's pretty disgusting stuff, although Frank Ramsey by all accounts was a thoroughly decent chap. Tragically the use of his work by Neoclassicals, Monetarists and New Keynesians hurt the poor the most, something no doubt he would have profoundly regretted.

    • @321bytor
      @321bytor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'The source of revenue for the monopoly sovereign issuer is the sovereign issuer (a sovereign always issues by fiat) that's why it was called revenue.' Isn't that a tautology?

    • @321bytor
      @321bytor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrLcowles A mistake!

    • @battyjr
      @battyjr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrLcowles if the government creates money and sends it into the economy, the government is in debt, but there is more currency floating around. When the government taxes, the debt is being paid back. A country with no debt, has no currency circulating. That's how I understand it. But now that I wrote that out, it certainly makes taxes sound like revenue or a "return back". Though, it would also be true that it's not useful as savings, it just means the actual people in the country have less at the specific time.
      Anyway, I don't know enough about it to know what the specific definitions are, but I agree conceptually with what Bijou Smith said- full disclosure.

    • @Guizambaldi
      @Guizambaldi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dumb heterodoxes everywhere in the web...

  • @Undermarysmantleforever
    @Undermarysmantleforever ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can’t have a bright star 🌟without the sun /son...even Wagner converted on his death bed . What does it profit a man ....don’t waste your intelligence , use it for the good of Heaven and if you never had an encounter with the Lord , pray . Great minds with open hearts can except eternal truths , will pray for him and the upcoming 🌟of the World 🙏🙏🙏