I accidentally cut the 10-15 seconds around 04:09 where I showed the cost of Alt crafting compared to the Fossil craft! Of course I only notice after it goes out. >_< Here it is in writing: Flow of Life + Brush with Death: Fossil craft price: 9146c Alt+Aug+Regal: 1750c So in that instance where you have clashing tags on notables you want, using Alt+Aug+Regal will be cheaper than fossils. Be sure to compare methods on CoE and compare those costs to the market to see what'd make most sense to do!
Literally watching your entire TH-cam channel at this point... loving your guides and the structured step-by-step approach. As a total newbie, this is awesome
5:30 I am trying to understand why this seems to happen some times. I mean I'm trying to craft and +5 to all cold spells staff and the only half decent way I've found so far is buying a fractured +3 cold and use a few (like 6) 4 fossil resonators which would cost about 7 ex (5 ex for base and 2 ex in fossils/reso) but a few days ago I saw a few (non fractured) +5 cold staves going from 1,5 ex to 5 ex and I am convinced I'm unaware of some crafting method that would explain this price range. I'm really grateful for people like you that create crafting guides as I believe learning how to craft would otherwise be extremely unfriendly for people with limited game knowledge.
Wow wait... +5s are that cheap? I'm going to investigate because I'm also missing something :o those used to be insanely hard to make! Thanks for the heads up
I've just been burning all my generic Harvest Reforge crafts on cluster jewels and seeing what comes out. Especially things like at least one X modifier, X modifiers are more common give really reliable results.
Yeah I guess I should've mentioned this :< I felt that Harvest spawns are too inconsistent to act as a viable strategy compared to fossils, but it was worth mentioning
@@Lolcohol its 100% reliable by using Harvest on the atlas device. Mind u, its 12c a pop, but still worth it. The only benefit of using fossils is, that u can spam your crafts as much as u r willing to pay for it. Harvest crafting is still superior to fossils because of the guaranteed to see one of that type of mod
I really do enjoy your videos. It's kinda like a, "lets see what we can get" rather than a "DO THIS". Very informative and very easy to follow a long. Thank you =)
Thanks bro! I was just spamming augments on my cluster jewel; not really knowing what I was doing. Did some research, found your video, had like 5 resonators and some fossils laying around.. took me 4 tries and bam, got what I was hoping for! 👍🏽👊🏼😁
Lol after watching this video I checked my Cluster Jewel tab and saw I had an 8passive 10%minion damage jewel and sold it for 1 ex (hcu). Thanks for the video!!
When Craft of Exile shows you completely unrelated fossils during optimization, it's usually because, as you've identified, no fossils can actually orient towards the traits you want. The table on the _left_ during optimization shows the raw efficiency, ie. the set of fossils that minimizes the number of tries needed. In that case, it tries to _eliminate_ as many other options as it can to maximize the chance per try that you'll get them (in this case, eliminating the mana tag and chaos tag prefixes). However, the table on the _right_ is the one for _cost efficiency_ instead. If no fossils _help_ the rolls, that table will fundamentally boil down to the set of fossils that don't _hurt_ (ie. make other traits more likely) that also cost the least chaos on the market. Frigid fossils are in pretty low demand, since cold builds in general aren't particularly dominant atm, so that's basically the calculator's way of saying "if you really want to do this with fossils instead of chaos spam, spamming Frigid fossils is you're _least_ stupidly wasteful way of doing that".
omg THANK YOU! I've just done my first craft with this vid and from 10% chance to get 3 added skills, just hit in the 4th try! \o/ spent like 50c instead of buying it from 3.5d \o/
The thing with the Minion jewel is that Feasting Fiends "brick" the jewel (you usually don't want that node), most people only want to spec Primordial Bond and the two jewels slots
@@Lolcohol Yeah, the one with just Primordial Bond and Renewal is worth more currently. The current price is mainly because of the Burning Arrow build, the only node that matters is Primordial Bond, that are 3 nodes that goes up in the jewel so you don't have to take them (Renewal, Rotten Claws, Raze and Pillage), so Primordial Bond alone or with any one of this 3 are going to sell fast. Other minions build uses these nodes but they're not as popular as BA this league. You can check Big Ducks video on this build and he explain it in detail.
@@Lolcohol Indeed. And plenty of them are 1 or 50 as well so it can make a big difference. Of course a low level jewel means worse things like + life but it's the notables you're really after. Things like that are usually just a bonus.
When you are searching for primordial bonds and renewal, "feasting fiends" as the 3rd affix is actually a bad thing because these jewels are for elementalists, who abuse golems. If you have 3 notables, primordial bond (the notable that gives actual benefits to the user) will be on the far end, thus making you spend at least 2 more passive skill points to get it. The reason you want either renewal, raze and pillage (or whatever its called) and a 3rd one (i dont remember its name) is that they push "primordial bonds" down, and you can reach on the way to the jewel slot.
Aaaahh that makes so much sense. A lot of people have said "having 3 passives makes it worth less" but no one explained why. That's super cool - thanks for sharing!
For the fridged fossil point - wouldn't it be better than chaos spamming because it blocks the fire tags which means ur rolling less modifiers overall? or would the fact that its targeting cold mean it would be less common to hit two life notables with cold resist to small passives...? (assuming ur always guaranteed one cold modifier)
Good question and I actually thought about this same thing. I'm not 100% sure but think the blocking of fire and increased odds of Cold sort of balances out?
I'm sure there's a list somewhere out there of certain number ranges that provide certain benefits but I haven't looked! Usually I just divine and check until I'm happy :)
@@Lolcohol hmmm, so im basically screwed then. im relatively new here so i have neither the knowledge to properly research the subject nor the finances to just keep rerolling xD. thats the reason im watching crafting videos, to study up on my game know how ;)
Sometimes using alc/ scour is a good alternative to fossil crafting, depending on the weighting. By far, the best method, better than fossil crafting, is harvest. In some cases, fossils are better, because of the canceling of certain mods.
It does but it's very specific to the jewel. Some Clusters are easier to roll the notables you want when they have a low item level but some need to be higher to get what you want :)
One thing to take into consideration is what u have. If u have alot of alterations but few fossils/resonators then alt spamming can be alot cheaper than buying alot of fossils/resonators.
I suppose. If you're trying to be ultra optimal, you'd sell the Alterations to buy fossils and save money, but if you're in SSF or something, then yeah, use what you have
I made aprox 10 ex profit with fettle passive spamming alteration + augmentation, but keep in mind than you sometimes are going to frustate with alteration spamming. And sometimes you get it in the first 10 attempt
Is there certain notables or cluster jewel that u seen easier with fossil? I looked into a lot of them, fossil or chaos spamming is about the same odds.
Are there any webpages where i can check for the most popular notables of the league. As a newcomer it takes a lot of time to catch up with in demand notables
Not as far as I know :( it's pretty subjective depending on your build, but a good build guide should tell you which notables are best for that build However you can go on poe.ninja and search for Cluster Jewels which will bring up a list of the most valuable cluster jewel bases (raw ones with no mods) which may point you in the direction of which are most popular and "best" Hope that helps!
Yeah! But it's far less consistent and harder to attain, say for example, 30 "reforge life" - although it might be a longer term goal. I am pretending Harvest doesn't exist since so many people hate it right now haha
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@@Lolcohol what i say is that it should be include in the videos like this one. when i craft cluster jewel, an important part is to check the price each time i have something that seams interesting.
You need at lest 68 and top 82 if you want to craft your jewel (well if you have you needed notables with ilvl 68+ restictions and you dont care about your passives.)
@@xxcsokixx i'm sorry but that still makes no sense. i'm assuming primordial bond is one of the most looked for notable on minion jewels, why not just set the level to 68, and if he wanted the best probability of hitting it and didn't care about T1 small passive, put a limit of 83. 82 has no business being there as it only limits your selection when looking on the trade website
@@YouTookMyAccountName I meant you need a jewel with item level between 68 and 82. [68, 82] is the interval (min = 68, max = 82) -> I dont know how to phrase it any other way. So it can roll mods that are ilvl 68+ but you make your pool a bit smaller when you dont go over ilvl 83. Is it better understandable?
@@YouTookMyAccountName If you jewel is ilvl 83 or higher it can roll additional mods that you may not want. These affixes are "small passives also grant: x" and not notables. So if you want notables you should stay below ilvl 83. But you do you.
Alt spamming is the worst kind of crafting, in any game. Sit there clicking thousands of times while focusing not to roll over what it is you want.. So i try to avoid it as much as possible.
you can't get a 3 notable large cluster with also life: 2 notables will have to be prefixes so the missing mod is a suffix, you can at best get some attributes or a res.
Ok, I'm confused AF, so either me and my friends got lucky with cluster crafting this and whole of last league with alts regals or craft of exile is giving some really dodgy AF numbers... I'd have a heart attack if med clusters required more then 200 alts and 30 regals to craft, that's crazy.... Or am I just spoiled with random luck RNG?
Hah you might be lucky. AAR can be good for mediums in some cases. If you're hitting 3 notable Large Clusters with AAR, then yeah, you're insanely lucky :D
@@Lolcohol it all depends on how you target the nodes that you want and how you choose the clusters, what I've noticed, it's similar to mapping, if you do 1 once a day, yeah you won't get ex for ages, but a 10/20 min prep time into 5 min of crafting does help out a lot lol. If I craft with cluster and cluster is under 3 ex I scour it, because it's not that hard, that's why I'm so confused with the craftofpoe numbers
2678 fusings for me this league to get 6 link I have got psychology problem hahah no craft for me no more I need some days recover from that fuse sesion lol Nice video i love fossils
Alteration? It's chaos rolling time baby. Got triple three times with 10 chaos :D Then another 2x +1 hunter amulets 2c each. Give unto the chaos strat, it's potent.
this didnt work for me. i spent hundreds of chaos on jagged and resonators...i hit that cluster 100s of times and not a single time did i get 3 notables. item level 85 cluster
@@Lolcohol alot :P 475 tries or something with fossiles :P so its a price that i understand cus of the hard rolls but dang to expensive and to hard 😅 dint sound like the jewels u talkt about are that hard so strange that mace staff roll that i want are that rare:P
thanks for sharing but TBH i think everytime youtuber reveal some of these trade secret is when it's not a secret anymore at least for vet player that play for a long time. and all the mothod will work for a few more day and die down. but still thanks for sharing.
Yeah I think this is well known by more knowledgeable players that I'm not giving away any big secret :) if these cost like 20c to make but cost 10ex on the market it'd be more of a secret! :D
buying cluster rather than making it is true for late league where poeple get rid off there good clusters to start a new build and where poeple start buying bases to min max there's. early league most poeple don't bother crafting and the price of bases is super low. but you can still sell average craft for a bunch of c. trying to get my primordial bond fossil i made 1 ex profit from average minion clusters
Hah. Fortunately, it seemed that the market prices were pretty accurate when comparing the cost of self-crafting vs buying :D Hopefully I didn't ruin anyone's league strategy :3
You're not wrong... but some can get a 6l in one fusings, other's(Specifically me in Standard) I remember it take 6,000ish fusings. Now don't get me wrong, the average is 900, and I have gotten 6l's in 50-100 fusings, even once got like and within 5. But RNG is rng.... I can say no more
@@Lolcohol yea I did. I'm saying rng still plays a major factor. You can get all 3 clusters you need in 1 alchemy. Some people just get lucky. Especially if you're a streamer.. we know for certain now Streamer Rng does exist.
Harvest crafts can be excellent too and better in some instances. Fossils have the added benefit of blocking mods but that can also be a bad thing in some cases
Uhh...RMT is against GGG's Terms of Service and you'll get banned for doing it. Also, the grind is the game and the fun part of it. I'm not sure why you'd want to circumvent that?
Oh man 1000 lbs thats a fat mob. Sit ups work. Long walks too. Lol sorry calling it weight is sooo stupid just say try. Not how fat people are. It's just mean😢
wait, so you're trying to tell me that deterministic crafting is better then closing my eyes and alt spamming for ever? Y'know POE players are lazy when this kind of information needs a video to explain such a simple and obvious thing.
This game is immensely complicated! Assuming that everything is obvious is a great way to be a bad teacher :P this isn't as obvious to everyone as you'd imagine
@@Lolcohol I'd like to have a discussion that is constructive so I'll counter with this, The game is far from complicated it is convoluted , Compare Poe and it's systems to say for example league of legends. League of legends has a large amount of information to learn just like POE (maybe not as much but still relative), However that information is arguably as important as your mechanical ability to pilot a champion and outplay your opponent. In path of exile however this game requires very little mechanical skill and far more game knowledge of how in game systems work, For example a new player might not know fossil crafting and its implications because of how many in game systems there are related to crafting, The mechanics behind fossils however are very simple are they not? They work deterministically and for the most part follow simple common sense. Use the physical fossil to encourage physical mods. These aren't complicated systems they are poorly explained in a lot of cases which does not help their existence. Objectively I would say many games are far more complicated using smart game design, Poe is just like a thesaurus, Most of the words are useless as you will never need them, they serve no purpose outside of showing your ability to articulate.
Weird. I haven't watched this video in ages but always try to keep my content as concise as possible. Perhaps I wasn't as good at that when I made this video. I fucking hate time-wasters so really hope you're just exaggerating or I got better than I was
I accidentally cut the 10-15 seconds around 04:09 where I showed the cost of Alt crafting compared to the Fossil craft! Of course I only notice after it goes out. >_<
Here it is in writing: Flow of Life + Brush with Death:
Fossil craft price: 9146c
Alt+Aug+Regal: 1750c
So in that instance where you have clashing tags on notables you want, using Alt+Aug+Regal will be cheaper than fossils. Be sure to compare methods on CoE and compare those costs to the market to see what'd make most sense to do!
What about harvest rerolls for clashing notables? Life is more likely, but harvest doesn't prevent defence from rolling
Fix and replace the vid later without uploading a new
@@Grekey. I don't think you can change the video without uploading an entirely new video :( I wish you could!
for this exemple, i think harvest would be better.
Literally watching your entire TH-cam channel at this point... loving your guides and the structured step-by-step approach. As a total newbie, this is awesome
5:30 I am trying to understand why this seems to happen some times.
I mean I'm trying to craft and +5 to all cold spells staff and the only half decent way I've found so far is buying a fractured +3 cold and use a few (like 6) 4 fossil resonators which would cost about 7 ex (5 ex for base and 2 ex in fossils/reso) but a few days ago I saw a few (non fractured) +5 cold staves going from 1,5 ex to 5 ex and I am convinced I'm unaware of some crafting method that would explain this price range.
I'm really grateful for people like you that create crafting guides as I believe learning how to craft would otherwise be extremely unfriendly for people with limited game knowledge.
Wow wait... +5s are that cheap? I'm going to investigate because I'm also missing something :o those used to be insanely hard to make! Thanks for the heads up
I've just been burning all my generic Harvest Reforge crafts on cluster jewels and seeing what comes out. Especially things like at least one X modifier, X modifiers are more common give really reliable results.
Yeah I guess I should've mentioned this :< I felt that Harvest spawns are too inconsistent to act as a viable strategy compared to fossils, but it was worth mentioning
@@Lolcohol its 100% reliable by using Harvest on the atlas device. Mind u, its 12c a pop, but still worth it. The only benefit of using fossils is, that u can spam your crafts as much as u r willing to pay for it. Harvest crafting is still superior to fossils because of the guaranteed to see one of that type of mod
3:30 When you need to hit double life mods like that, just use your harvest life reforges. You can hit +life prefix, but its still good.
Really well explained, I really appreciate how you delineated when fossils were better and also when they weren't.
Thanks :) I'm glad it was helpful and clear!
I really do enjoy your videos. It's kinda like a, "lets see what we can get" rather than a "DO THIS". Very informative and very easy to follow a long. Thank you =)
Glad it was helpful :)
That gasp at 2:19 made me laugh for some reason lmao.
Thanks bro! I was just spamming augments on my cluster jewel; not really knowing what I was doing.
Did some research, found your video, had like 5 resonators and some fossils laying around.. took me 4 tries and bam, got what I was hoping for! 👍🏽👊🏼😁
Lol after watching this video I checked my Cluster Jewel tab and saw I had an 8passive 10%minion damage jewel and sold it for 1 ex (hcu). Thanks for the video!!
Nice! It's easy to overlook that sort of thing
WTF man, I've been using alt aug regal all this time. You're my savior!!
Yay! Glad I could help :)
And I've been using chaos orbs :D
@@ikulity Haha don't feel bad. I still do that sometimes if I'm really lazy :D
@@Lolcohol you are his Saviour, now he just needs a Paradoxica !
@@PhoenixLive_YT I'm trying to think of another unique item to make a good comeback with but I'm too dumb :D
now this is some amazing info that I totally forgot about honestly
Glad it was helpful :) I also forgot about it and wasted so many Alterations when I should've just used Fossils!
When Craft of Exile shows you completely unrelated fossils during optimization, it's usually because, as you've identified, no fossils can actually orient towards the traits you want. The table on the _left_ during optimization shows the raw efficiency, ie. the set of fossils that minimizes the number of tries needed. In that case, it tries to _eliminate_ as many other options as it can to maximize the chance per try that you'll get them (in this case, eliminating the mana tag and chaos tag prefixes).
However, the table on the _right_ is the one for _cost efficiency_ instead. If no fossils _help_ the rolls, that table will fundamentally boil down to the set of fossils that don't _hurt_ (ie. make other traits more likely) that also cost the least chaos on the market. Frigid fossils are in pretty low demand, since cold builds in general aren't particularly dominant atm, so that's basically the calculator's way of saying "if you really want to do this with fossils instead of chaos spam, spamming Frigid fossils is you're _least_ stupidly wasteful way of doing that".
Very well said! I explained that raw vs cost efficiency thing in my guide on CoE but you said it better. Hopefully some people catch your comment!
omg THANK YOU! I've just done my first craft with this vid and from 10% chance to get 3 added skills, just hit in the 4th try! \o/
spent like 50c instead of buying it from 3.5d
\o/
The thing with the Minion jewel is that Feasting Fiends "brick" the jewel (you usually don't want that node), most people only want to spec Primordial Bond and the two jewels slots
I didn't know that! Thanks for sharing. Damn, so the one I got with just the two was worth more than the three?
@@Lolcohol Yeah, the one with just Primordial Bond and Renewal is worth more currently.
The current price is mainly because of the Burning Arrow build, the only node that matters is Primordial Bond, that are 3 nodes that goes up in the jewel so you don't have to take them (Renewal, Rotten Claws, Raze and Pillage), so Primordial Bond alone or with any one of this 3 are going to sell fast. Other minions build uses these nodes but they're not as popular as BA this league.
You can check Big Ducks video on this build and he explain it in detail.
@@arthursgf Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for explaining it :) I had no idea it was related to a Burning Arrow build :o
You should also talk about using the right ilvl on the jewels to restrict the range of results to make it easier to hit the ones you want.
That's a good point actually. A lot of notables only roll around 68+ so using a lower ilvl will block those :)
@@Lolcohol Indeed. And plenty of them are 1 or 50 as well so it can make a big difference. Of course a low level jewel means worse things like + life but it's the notables you're really after. Things like that are usually just a bonus.
3:35 looks like harvest life re-roll will get the job done
Yeah I should've mentioned that!
I honestly didn't even think about trying to use fossils on jewels 😑, thank you.
Glad to help :)
@@Lolcohol FCK like how could i dont see it holy Wrap? Thx glad for that Info i will improve my clearspeed with that
When you are searching for primordial bonds and renewal, "feasting fiends" as the 3rd affix is actually a bad thing because these jewels are for elementalists, who abuse golems. If you have 3 notables, primordial bond (the notable that gives actual benefits to the user) will be on the far end, thus making you spend at least 2 more passive skill points to get it. The reason you want either renewal, raze and pillage (or whatever its called) and a 3rd one (i dont remember its name) is that they push "primordial bonds" down, and you can reach on the way to the jewel slot.
Aaaahh that makes so much sense. A lot of people have said "having 3 passives makes it worth less" but no one explained why. That's super cool - thanks for sharing!
@@Lolcohol Cheers :)
Ya lol it's sad that you rolled over the Primordial Bond/Renewal jewel you got after like 3 attempts, cuz it was worth a lot more.
you just saved me so much time and money. thank you
I wish I'd found this two hours and 13 div earlier, thanks mate
When I look at 1000c+ chances to roll I estimate how much RSI I would get, and not how many Exalts I Need xD Nice video!
Haha you're totally right. 10,000 Chaos is at least 1.5 RSIs
What does G1 G2 or P1 P2 mean on the calculator, how do i know which passive is which ?
For the fridged fossil point - wouldn't it be better than chaos spamming because it blocks the fire tags which means ur rolling less modifiers overall? or would the fact that its targeting cold mean it would be less common to hit two life notables with cold resist to small passives...? (assuming ur always guaranteed one cold modifier)
Good question and I actually thought about this same thing. I'm not 100% sure but think the blocking of fire and increased odds of Cold sort of balances out?
is there a way to reroll timeless jewels more efficiently? i want some of the eternal nodes that work with frenzy charges.
I'm sure there's a list somewhere out there of certain number ranges that provide certain benefits but I haven't looked! Usually I just divine and check until I'm happy :)
@@Lolcohol hmmm, so im basically screwed then.
im relatively new here so i have neither the knowledge to properly research the subject nor the finances to just keep rerolling xD.
thats the reason im watching crafting videos, to study up on my game know how ;)
ty so much useful video learned alot from it ty for uploadin again
OMG
the prismatic fossil in the video thumbnail made me laugh LOL
It's actually an emote I made for Twitch and Discord! I love it :D
Sometimes using alc/ scour is a good alternative to fossil crafting, depending on the weighting. By far, the best method, better than fossil crafting, is harvest. In some cases, fossils are better, because of the canceling of certain mods.
does item level matter for any type of jewel craft?
It does but it's very specific to the jewel. Some Clusters are easier to roll the notables you want when they have a low item level but some need to be higher to get what you want :)
One thing to take into consideration is what u have. If u have alot of alterations but few fossils/resonators then alt spamming can be alot cheaper than buying alot of fossils/resonators.
I suppose. If you're trying to be ultra optimal, you'd sell the Alterations to buy fossils and save money, but if you're in SSF or something, then yeah, use what you have
I made aprox 10 ex profit with fettle passive spamming alteration + augmentation, but keep in mind than you sometimes are going to frustate with alteration spamming. And sometimes you get it in the first 10 attempt
Yeah it's better to alt spam for something like Fettle on a small cluster. For 2-3 passives, fossils are generally better :) it can be easy money!
Is there certain notables or cluster jewel that u seen easier with fossil? I looked into a lot of them, fossil or chaos spamming is about the same odds.
Thanks a lot for this, this is a game changer I didn't know about... I really need to learn crafting...
I have a guide on the basics of crafting! It's called Crafting For Noobs
Are there any webpages where i can check for the most popular notables of the league. As a newcomer it takes a lot of time to catch up with in demand notables
Not as far as I know :( it's pretty subjective depending on your build, but a good build guide should tell you which notables are best for that build
However you can go on poe.ninja and search for Cluster Jewels which will bring up a list of the most valuable cluster jewel bases (raw ones with no mods) which may point you in the direction of which are most popular and "best"
Hope that helps!
@@Lolcohol Yeah, thanks for the clarification, it was insightful.
Liked and subbed, I only really bench craft life+res on my gear. Gonna start using this to push more endgame.
Thanks! :) Glad it was helpful. Let me know how far you get into the endgame!
keep working for the nice content ! subscribed !
Thank you :)
Thanks you good work that will help me alot 🤘🏻
Glad it was helpful :)
How about some harvest reroll and reroll+ on some of thoses cluster jewels?
Could that be more optimal?
Yeah! But it's far less consistent and harder to attain, say for example, 30 "reforge life" - although it might be a longer term goal. I am pretending Harvest doesn't exist since so many people hate it right now haha
lolcohol: Yo guys im a show you how to make money right here.
lolcohol does the thing and price checks
lolcohol: i can't believe you've done this community, they're onto us
video abruptly ends
Chaos med cluster example good in Harvest - reforge life. Not a fossil method)
you should show in the video how to do the price check for cluster with Awakened poe trade.
Hmm I'm not sure if that would be good for a whole video, but maybe a whole Awakened PoE trade guide? :)
@@Lolcohol what i say is that it should be include in the videos like this one.
when i craft cluster jewel, an important part is to check the price each time i have something that seams interesting.
Fossils and/or harvest crafting for clusters. I pretty much only alt spam when I’m desperate lol
what about harvest reroll?
i don't think the ilevel 82 is necessary when searching for those cluster jewels... notable level marks are 50, 68, 75, small passive is 68 and 84
You need at lest 68 and top 82 if you want to craft your jewel (well if you have you needed notables with ilvl 68+ restictions and you dont care about your passives.)
@@xxcsokixx i'm sorry but that still makes no sense. i'm assuming primordial bond is one of the most looked for notable on minion jewels, why not just set the level to 68, and if he wanted the best probability of hitting it and didn't care about T1 small passive, put a limit of 83. 82 has no business being there as it only limits your selection when looking on the trade website
@@YouTookMyAccountName I meant you need a jewel with item level between 68 and 82. [68, 82] is the interval (min = 68, max = 82) -> I dont know how to phrase it any other way. So it can roll mods that are ilvl 68+ but you make your pool a bit smaller when you dont go over ilvl 83. Is it better understandable?
@@xxcsokixx it should be 68-83 there's not reason to exclude 83.
@@YouTookMyAccountName If you jewel is ilvl 83 or higher it can roll additional mods that you may not want. These affixes are "small passives also grant: x" and not notables. So if you want notables you should stay below ilvl 83. But you do you.
Alt spamming is the worst kind of crafting, in any game. Sit there clicking thousands of times while focusing not to roll over what it is you want.. So i try to avoid it as much as possible.
but I can't pick up the clusters with the right implicits in the first place!
You buy them then
@@mattb6646 SSF
you can't get a 3 notable large cluster with also life: 2 notables will have to be prefixes so the missing mod is a suffix, you can at best get some attributes or a res.
True! Good point
Ok, I'm confused AF, so either me and my friends got lucky with cluster crafting this and whole of last league with alts regals or craft of exile is giving some really dodgy AF numbers... I'd have a heart attack if med clusters required more then 200 alts and 30 regals to craft, that's crazy.... Or am I just spoiled with random luck RNG?
Hah you might be lucky. AAR can be good for mediums in some cases. If you're hitting 3 notable Large Clusters with AAR, then yeah, you're insanely lucky :D
@@Lolcohol it all depends on how you target the nodes that you want and how you choose the clusters, what I've noticed, it's similar to mapping, if you do 1 once a day, yeah you won't get ex for ages, but a 10/20 min prep time into 5 min of crafting does help out a lot lol. If I craft with cluster and cluster is under 3 ex I scour it, because it's not that hard, that's why I'm so confused with the craftofpoe numbers
2678 fusings for me this league to get 6 link
I have got psychology problem hahah no craft for me no more
I need some days recover from that fuse sesion lol
Nice video i love fossils
Oh no! Ouch :< I know that pain haha. Good luck with the next crafting/fusing session!
Alteration? It's chaos rolling time baby. Got triple three times with 10 chaos :D Then another 2x +1 hunter amulets 2c each. Give unto the chaos strat, it's potent.
.. you're not serious, right? Oh God.
Haha I'd be lynched if I gave this as actual advice, but I myself occasionally indulge in the Chaos spam from time to time.
this didnt work for me. i spent hundreds of chaos on jagged and resonators...i hit that cluster 100s of times and not a single time did i get 3 notables. item level 85 cluster
oh wow I wish I saw this video sooner
Glad it was helpful :)
The large 8 node cluster i want with overlord , 1 hp leech node, and martial prowess cost 23x...
Eek :( have you checked what it would cost to craft on Craft of Exile?
@@Lolcohol alot :P 475 tries or something with fossiles :P so its a price that i understand cus of the hard rolls but dang to expensive and to hard 😅 dint sound like the jewels u talkt about are that hard so strange that mace staff roll that i want are that rare:P
Nice one, thx!
:) You're welcome
Finally, someone who doesn't say 'Peace' at the end of their video.
Hah. Cancel me if I ever say that
I spam Harvest reforges on 10c cluster bases makes bank for me
I make 5-6 3 mod clusters a day
Nice! Yeah I should've mentioned this
sir I owe you my life!
thanks for sharing but TBH i think everytime youtuber reveal some of these trade secret is when it's not a secret anymore at least for vet player that play for a long time. and all the mothod will work for a few more day and die down. but still thanks for sharing.
Yeah I think this is well known by more knowledgeable players that I'm not giving away any big secret :) if these cost like 20c to make but cost 10ex on the market it'd be more of a secret! :D
Really nice Content, but can you explain how did you find out that insane Information :DD!?
I have crafted a lot and it just made sense to me to use fossils on these too! :)
dont forget harvest crafting clusters, if you ever get one that you need.
This still work?
When you got x2 then give a shot a exalt:) If you have luck you can get one.:(
Why stop when alteration orb has no real value? xD
265 likes come from people who mine. 7 dislikes come from the crafters :p
I feel so dumb, it never even occurred to me to use fossils on a cluster.....sadge
Don't feel bad :) A lot of us overlook these small things!
"this jewel is worth about 3ex. I'm gonna roll over it"
Lol the base made up most of the value :P
I use chaos, works 1/50 times
i spend more than 900 alt i dont get anything. 8 fossiles and i got a 5ex cluster :P. ty for your wisdom
Haha nice! Glad this helped you save some money :)
But sir, I want four notables on me jewels.
Email GGG!
buying cluster rather than making it is true for late league where poeple get rid off there good clusters to start a new build and where poeple start buying bases to min max there's.
early league most poeple don't bother crafting and the price of bases is super low. but you can still sell average craft for a bunch of c. trying to get my primordial bond fossil i made 1 ex profit from average minion clusters
Great advice here. Yeah, the later it is in a league, the cheaper items become and the less profitable cheaper crafts become
20 scorched fossils in and nothing. Hopping to get on the next 20.
Good luck! It can be rough sometimes but it's definitely the easier way to do it :)
@@Lolcohol gave up on the fire large and got martial prowes with doble leech nodes.
been using harvest but never fossils. Keep forgetting to use em. lol
#NeverForgetFossils
There goes the market
Hah. Fortunately, it seemed that the market prices were pretty accurate when comparing the cost of self-crafting vs buying :D Hopefully I didn't ruin anyone's league strategy :3
Are you from south africa?
Yeah! I am :) Glad you can tell. So many people think I'm from Europe or something loll
Well i can tell of another south african im also been looking at your vid for a day or 2 nice job man
Nice thanks, man. You should hop in our Discord - we have quite a few SA players there!
@@Lolcohol i will do so thanks
DIVINE POWAAAAAHH AH AH AH A-AH
someone same me Lolcohol =))
You're not wrong... but some can get a 6l in one fusings, other's(Specifically me in Standard) I remember it take 6,000ish fusings. Now don't get me wrong, the average is 900, and I have gotten 6l's in 50-100 fusings, even once got like and within 5.
But RNG is rng.... I can say no more
Did you comment on the right video? :D or did I miss something?
@@Lolcohol yea I did. I'm saying rng still plays a major factor. You can get all 3 clusters you need in 1 alchemy. Some people just get lucky.
Especially if you're a streamer.. we know for certain now Streamer Rng does exist.
Literally none of these videos explain how to obtain cluster jewels without trading. Like how do you get them in game ?
They drop from Delirium content! So if you find a Delirium mirror, or run a Delirium map, they can drop from monsters there :)
It's written in the first few sentences on the "poe wiki" for Cluster Jewels.
Why are you looking at 82+ minion jewels? that makes no sense.
wait, you guys don't alch?
Alching? I'm too broke for that. Only Orbs of Binding over here babbyyyyy
So you're saying that target crafting is good!? And things like harvest/fossils are not shit? That is shocking news..
This video clearly isn't targeted at more advanced players like you 😂
The difficult part of this is ppl who selling the fossil is not respond when ppl is buying
Try buying in bulk. You'll pay more but those people do respond more often. It can be frustrating though :(
@@Lolcohol buying in bulk cost alot more than alt reroll , i earn dozen ex by rolling medium jewel using alt. Havent try large yet
I usually chaos spam. 500 chaos for nothing so far.
Cry in the corner
:( I was once like you but I saw the light
fossils? WACK
all my homies use harvest crafts
Harvest crafts can be excellent too and better in some instances. Fossils have the added benefit of blocking mods but that can also be a bad thing in some cases
Time takes to buy 71 jagged fossil:2 days
Nah, just search for bulk. You'll pay more but you'll get it done in one or two trades instead of 71
300 chaos = $2.50 guys
just buy whatever gear u want and go have fun with pro builds, ignore all this grinding
Uhh...RMT is against GGG's Terms of Service and you'll get banned for doing it.
Also, the grind is the game and the fun part of it. I'm not sure why you'd want to circumvent that?
Oh man 1000 lbs thats a fat mob. Sit ups work. Long walks too. Lol sorry calling it weight is sooo stupid just say try. Not how fat people are. It's just mean😢
Hahah sorry! I like fat people a lot, so I'll try not to be mean by using the word "weight" in future!
Good luck buying sufficient amount of fossils and resonators in first days of league (and noone plays this game after first week anyway).
wait, so you're trying to tell me that deterministic crafting is better then closing my eyes and alt spamming for ever? Y'know POE players are lazy when this kind of information needs a video to explain such a simple and obvious thing.
This game is immensely complicated! Assuming that everything is obvious is a great way to be a bad teacher :P this isn't as obvious to everyone as you'd imagine
@@Lolcohol I'd like to have a discussion that is constructive so I'll counter with this, The game is far from complicated it is convoluted , Compare Poe and it's systems to say for example league of legends. League of legends has a large amount of information to learn just like POE (maybe not as much but still relative), However that information is arguably as important as your mechanical ability to pilot a champion and outplay your opponent. In path of exile however this game requires very little mechanical skill and far more game knowledge of how in game systems work, For example a new player might not know fossil crafting and its implications because of how many in game systems there are related to crafting, The mechanics behind fossils however are very simple are they not? They work deterministically and for the most part follow simple common sense. Use the physical fossil to encourage physical mods. These aren't complicated systems they are poorly explained in a lot of cases which does not help their existence. Objectively I would say many games are far more complicated using smart game design, Poe is just like a thesaurus, Most of the words are useless as you will never need them, they serve no purpose outside of showing your ability to articulate.
me trying to figure out what an "alt/org/regal" is
God damn I couldn’t watch more than 2 mins. Just get to the point 😂 this is like in high school trying to hit the world limit for your paper
Weird. I haven't watched this video in ages but always try to keep my content as concise as possible. Perhaps I wasn't as good at that when I made this video. I fucking hate time-wasters so really hope you're just exaggerating or I got better than I was