In my opinion, the top priority should be retaining Elijah Robinson in any position. If he can stay with A&M and be promoted to DC, he can stabilize and retain a lot of the current roster and maintain the current recruiting class’ momentum. The new head coach will benefit greatly if they agree to retain ERob.
Probably the smartest response on here. Don’t know I’d they can keep him but it would definitely be the most beneficial. Those kids (even offensive guys) love him. He’s a lot of their favorite coach. Just think he probably either needs a big raise or a DC role.
@@jameslaw1696 he’s one of the highest paid position coaches in the country already. He’s been in contention for several big P5 DC jobs anyways, so I think now is the perfect time for him to move up to DC. Especially if we are able to hire a defense-minded HC like Elko or Lanning that can help guide him for his first stint as DC.
@@caderebstock I’d be thrilled with Elko HC and E Rob as DC. Durkin was never a good fit for this team anyway. He wants to run a 3 man front when our strength is clearly the DL and we only have 3 players who are even decent college LB’s. Durkin did well but Elko would’ve completely shut teams down with this talent. I also think Elko makes the most sense with the timing of this firing. Anybody in contention for the CFP would take far too long to get here and I think our roster will be decimated if there’s no leadership in place until January between the transfer portal and early signing day. Regardless, Jimbo definitely needed to go. Culture was rotten and talent was being wasted.
You knew Texags knew something when they started talking negatively about Jimbo Fisher in the last couple of weeks. Texags and Bill Liucci are the biggest cheerleaders for A&M ever. They are biased beyond belief. The put EVERYTHING in a positive light for A&M. When they started talking down on Jimbo, you knew Jimbo was gone because Texags would NEVER say anything negative about anyone with a future at A&M.
Not the regents. System Chancellor John Sharp. Since he became chancellor, A&M has given three different coaches guaranteed contract extensions and fired all three coaches. Kevin Sumlin: Guaranteed extension after the 2013 season. Fired in 2017 Billy Kennedy: Guaranteed extension with 3 weeks to go in the 2015-2016 season. Fired in 2019 Jimbo Fisher: Guaranteed extension after the 2021 season. Fired in 2023
I can’t believe Billy took enough time away from making himself available to fight people from the internet to appear on this segment. He must have whipped everyone’s ass already
@ML8429-cx5qy Let's just be honest if you can coach and develop NIL takes most of the recruiting out of it at a place like aTm they have more money then brains
Perhaps the plan .. Keep Patrino as interim after a "failed coaching search" because it would have been too obvious to do it right now. Need an Offensive minded coach.
Billy Liucci, A&M about to lose all their players to the portal, if jimbo was signed for lets say about 50 million dollars less, I think his pressure and expectations could have been more realistic and attainable and maybe they would have played alot more freely and could have been making a run for the SEC
Jimbos money has nothing to do with the players playing more freely lol. And of course A&M will lose players to the portal. They will also gain players from the portal after making a hire. If they retain Robinson as a DC, he will be able to retain a lot of talent. Making the right hires will have immediate benefits and long term results.
Elijah Robinson is the top recruiter on staff and one of the top 5 recruiters in all of college football. When Elko left to be the head coach of Duke, almost all of us wanted him promoted to defensive coordinator.
wasnt about the money but im saying that him gettting the big contract really did put so much pressure on the program to attain goals that just were not attainable@@caderebstock
A&M has 528,000 Alumni.. and are adding 16,000 to that number every year. Aggies have 76,000 students... Univ of Texas 41,000. The math says they are the biggest brand.
None of the state resources go into Texas A&M athletics. The boosters fund that. I’ll agree though that they haven’t achieved enough with their investment, but it could definitely be worse - we could be like UH
The decision was made after Ole Miss, but was probably discussed after the bama game this year. If you know you’re going to fire him, you beat the curve and get ahead of it. No use in keeping him around in a season he ruined.
Gives interested Coaches 2 weeks to polish their resumes before the frenzy at season's end. Plus .. A&M will beat Abilene Christian and Lose to LSU.. regardless of who the Coach is.
Well, he’s hoping to hire a guy that won’t lose every year, so it’s weird you’re calling that a given. I bet the contingency this time around will be to have a much smaller buyout. But we obviously don’t want to have to use that.
Kidding right? Look Jimbo was better than average but AM thought he was the answer. Not that caliber. Good. not great. That was also true at FSU. Left on bad terms. Doesn't come off as deeply authentic. Wish him well but money is not in that wish.
The Aggies think they belong with the Blue Bloods because they have lots of money. They’re more like the Beverly Hillbillies, just not as funny or lovable.
Eh, it’s hard to say they should have known that 2020 was going to be an outlier, but they finished top 4 that season. By most accounts, things were trending upwards, especially on the recruiting front, but it collapsed drastically after hiring Addazio and the o line started to crumble. That happened really fast in hindsight. At least the boosters owned up to their mistake and didn’t try to fire him for cause or anything like that.
@@CAROLINA_BULLDOGZ That's not true. Let's recap: 2014 season: Needed a 14-point fourth quarter comeback and overtime to beat Arkansas, a late defensive stop to beat UL Monroe by 5, and a fluke Auburn fumble inside the five to beat Auburn. That could have very easily been 4-8 instead of 7-5 in the regular season. The only other game that season within 1 score was a 34-27 loss to Missouri. 2015 season: Needed a late comeback to beat Arkansas in overtime and a late defensive stop to beat South Carolina. None of the other games that season were within 1 score. That season could have ended 6-6 instead of 8-4. 2016 season: Needed overtime after blowing a 24-9 fourth quarter lead to beat a 5-win UCLA team. Needed 2 overtimes to beat Tennessee after blowing a 35-21 lead with 4 minutes left in the game. The Mississippi State and Ole Miss games were lost by a combined 8 points. That season could have ended 6-6 or 10-2. All three of those seasons came AFTER Kevin Sumlin got his fully guaranteed contract extension.
@@caderebstock Fisher made two crippling critical mistakes after Elko left: 1. Not promoting Elijah Robinson to defensive coordinator. Durkin has shown that he is completely clueless when it comes to fielding a full defense. His defenses have either been inept on pass defense or inept on run defense. 2. Already mentioned Addazio, but Fisher has a history of bad offensive line coaches.
A&M is kinda delusional, they think they are a better program then they have ever been. Realistically they should be happy with 7-8 win seasons with the occasional 9-10 win season peppered in. Historically in the 121 years they have existed they have only finished ranked 28 times.
Your sources are wrong .. A*M averaged an 11th NCAA football ranking from 1990-1999 - that's 10 years right there.. and won National Championships in the Teens and 1930s. Jackie Sherill/Slocum years in the 80's were fantastic .. Thanks for the BS.
Jimbo didn’t let anyone down, he did his very best. The hiring group let us down again, and they stay where they are and get to do it again. Only the idiots lose money, Jimbo didn’t.
Jimbo absolutely did not live up to expectations - even his own expectations based on his recruiting success. He had everything he asked for and squandered it all, so it was time to move on.
The train wreck 5-7 losing season last year in 2022 wasn't a let down? With supposedly the best recruiting class in the USA? A worse record than Sumlin after being tauted as the "fixer" wasn't a let down? Wake up buttercup.
Bear Bryant couldn't win a championship at ATM back in the day and it was his lowest win percentage 63.% vs 71, 72, 82. Jimbo was extremely successful at FSU before coming to ATM, if Jimbo can't win there I don't think anyone but Saban/Kirby/Dabo/Urban could and I'm not sure any of them would have more than 1 championship. With OUT adding to the conference idk how it will get easier either.
A&M was not an elite job until at earliest the 80’s. Since Johnny Manziel, A&M boosters have turned up their support to the maximum. Jimbo was the first hire since Johnny and he was an unfortunate miss there. We’re still very early in the post-Johnny, super-spender A&M era. This isn’t 100 years of being the richest program with the worst results. It’s at most 50, which makes it more like Georgia before they hired Kirby.
That's a false statement. Bear Bryant DID win a championship in the 1956 season, posting a 9-0-1 record and winning the Southwest Conference. Even if A&M didn't tie Houston that season, they would have not won the national championship. Oklahoma, who went 10-0 and ALSO DIDN'T PLAY IN A BOWL, was given the title.
@@Mr.Wonderful731 we’re talking about the job being elite, not the success of prior coaching staffs. How do you think coaches get paid, or facilities get built? Money matters a lot when evaluating the job. You can argue with a wall if you think A&M is not a top 10 JOB in cfb.
The timing is based on the price of oil. The boosters are picking up the one time up front charge of $19.3 million, and the wealthy boosters mostly have oil money. The price of oil is high right now, but it could go down significantly in the next few years due to recession or other events, and Texas A&M did not want to risk waiting a couple of more years, when maybe they could not afford to buy him out if the boosters didn't have the money.
In my opinion, the top priority should be retaining Elijah Robinson in any position. If he can stay with A&M and be promoted to DC, he can stabilize and retain a lot of the current roster and maintain the current recruiting class’ momentum. The new head coach will benefit greatly if they agree to retain ERob.
The last time A&M promoted an assistant to head coach not in an interim basis was before the 1989 season. His name? R.C. SLOCUM
Probably the smartest response on here. Don’t know I’d they can keep him but it would definitely be the most beneficial. Those kids (even offensive guys) love him. He’s a lot of their favorite coach. Just think he probably either needs a big raise or a DC role.
@@jameslaw1696 he’s one of the highest paid position coaches in the country already. He’s been in contention for several big P5 DC jobs anyways, so I think now is the perfect time for him to move up to DC. Especially if we are able to hire a defense-minded HC like Elko or Lanning that can help guide him for his first stint as DC.
@@caderebstock I’d be thrilled with Elko HC and E Rob as DC. Durkin was never a good fit for this team anyway. He wants to run a 3 man front when our strength is clearly the DL and we only have 3 players who are even decent college LB’s. Durkin did well but Elko would’ve completely shut teams down with this talent.
I also think Elko makes the most sense with the timing of this firing. Anybody in contention for the CFP would take far too long to get here and I think our roster will be decimated if there’s no leadership in place until January between the transfer portal and early signing day.
Regardless, Jimbo definitely needed to go. Culture was rotten and talent was being wasted.
You never bring in a good solid HC and give them caveats to retain someone. Hire the right guy, and let him find his people
You knew Texags knew something when they started talking negatively about Jimbo Fisher in the last couple of weeks. Texags and Bill Liucci are the biggest cheerleaders for A&M ever. They are biased beyond belief. The put EVERYTHING in a positive light for A&M. When they started talking down on Jimbo, you knew Jimbo was gone because Texags would NEVER say anything negative about anyone with a future at A&M.
Woman answers telephone: "Hello?"
Caller: "Hello, Mrs. Meyer. I'm the athletic director from Texas A&M. Is Urban there?"
"This is his wife, Shelly. Don't ever call here again. We're staying in Florida." Click
😆😂😆😂😆😂
$100M+ mistake including assistant coaches.......what a debacle
The Regents should look at their failures themselves in the mirror more than Jimbo Fisher. The answers in this video is so inadequate
Not the regents. System Chancellor John Sharp. Since he became chancellor, A&M has given three different coaches guaranteed contract extensions and fired all three coaches.
Kevin Sumlin: Guaranteed extension after the 2013 season. Fired in 2017
Billy Kennedy: Guaranteed extension with 3 weeks to go in the 2015-2016 season. Fired in 2019
Jimbo Fisher: Guaranteed extension after the 2021 season. Fired in 2023
Lucci drinking so much fluids = BAD HANGOVER? 😂
I can’t believe Billy took enough time away from making himself available to fight people from the internet to appear on this segment. He must have whipped everyone’s ass already
Liuccii is a DISGRACE
He failed. Squandered means he was foolish. The regents squandered this hire, just like they did the last 5
Will MUSCHAMP announcement tomorrow.
Cool. Now fire Ross Bjork.
I heard Dan Mullins
Please no. Lol
The real darth vader. A&M fan cult need to worship the lord vader lol
@ML8429-cx5qy Let's just be honest if you can coach and develop NIL takes most of the recruiting out of it at a place like aTm they have more money then brains
CFL coach Porkchop McDoodoo is high on A&M list. Close sources
Hire Mack Brown...he'll take $7 mil./year.
What if they hired Elko, but kept Patrino as OC?
I like this
Perhaps the plan .. Keep Patrino as interim after a "failed coaching search" because it would have been too obvious to do it right now. Need an Offensive minded coach.
Traylor is the best move young has something to prove very well respected in Texas high school coaches and can coach and isn't going to bolt anywhere
Jeff Traylor is 55. He’s 3 years younger than Jimbo. A&M needs to look elsewhere.
@@texasaggie6287 Dang I thought Jimbo was just a year younger then Saban
What about....Mark Stoops or Kyle Whittingham????
Billy Liucci, A&M about to lose all their players to the portal, if jimbo was signed for lets say about 50 million dollars less, I think his pressure and expectations could have been more realistic and attainable and maybe they would have played alot more freely and could have been making a run for the SEC
Jimbos money has nothing to do with the players playing more freely lol.
And of course A&M will lose players to the portal. They will also gain players from the portal after making a hire. If they retain Robinson as a DC, he will be able to retain a lot of talent. Making the right hires will have immediate benefits and long term results.
Elijah Robinson is the top recruiter on staff and one of the top 5 recruiters in all of college football. When Elko left to be the head coach of Duke, almost all of us wanted him promoted to defensive coordinator.
wasnt about the money but im saying that him gettting the big contract really did put so much pressure on the program to attain goals that just were not attainable@@caderebstock
Is this how Kliff Kingsbury makes his way back to CFB????
Kliff Kingsbury? Are you kidding me? You folks are so delusional
@@richardanderson3620 lol do you really think Texas 8&4 isnt going to mess this hire up?? Theyre the laughing stock of the SEC.
Texas A&M should hire the Arizona State head coach. That dude gets the most from his players.
Do you mean Arizona?
The Sun Devils head coach Kenny Dillingham.
TexasA&M fans: we're a big cfb brand. We can take anyone from anywhere
Everyone else: TAMU is not even the biggest brand in their own state.
Facts
A&M can be a big brand. Just will take the right coach, everything is in place.
@briceb2297 friend, I never said they weren't big. I said they not the biggest cfb brand in Texas. Do I lie?
A&M has 528,000 Alumni.. and are adding 16,000 to that number every year. Aggies have 76,000 students... Univ of Texas 41,000. The math says they are the biggest brand.
That's why they created the aggie network and not the longhorn one. Oh....wait....
I tried to tell a lot of them recruits Jimbo would never make it the full cycle 😅
lol you message recruits you weirdo
@@User_32 Why are you messaging me then
Entire place is a black hole of state resources and talent.
None of the state resources go into Texas A&M athletics. The boosters fund that. I’ll agree though that they haven’t achieved enough with their investment, but it could definitely be worse - we could be like UH
Wrong .. Football money comes from Alumni.. Not the state. People aren't flocking in from across the globe to go to Univ of H.
Jimbo to penn state as the new oc?
Why would Penn state do that😂
Please, give me a break!
Jimbo to Carribean for Umbrella Drinks more than likely.
The timing is strange. Why not let Jimbo finish the season?
The decision was made after Ole Miss, but was probably discussed after the bama game this year. If you know you’re going to fire him, you beat the curve and get ahead of it. No use in keeping him around in a season he ruined.
Gives interested Coaches 2 weeks to polish their resumes before the frenzy at season's end. Plus .. A&M will beat Abilene Christian and Lose to LSU.. regardless of who the Coach is.
Ed Orgeron that's the answer.
We'll hire him for voice/over work .. we like that gravel/voice.
Now what's the athletic director choice now when they hire a new coach and the team starts losing every year
Well, he’s hoping to hire a guy that won’t lose every year, so it’s weird you’re calling that a given.
I bet the contingency this time around will be to have a much smaller buyout. But we obviously don’t want to have to use that.
A&M hasn't had consecutive below .500 regular seasons in over 40 years.
Shame on Texas A&M to do that to this man!
Kidding right? Look Jimbo was better than average but AM thought he was the answer. Not that caliber. Good. not great. That was also true at FSU. Left on bad terms. Doesn't come off as deeply authentic. Wish him well but money is not in that wish.
Billy has to eat his words after everything he said about jimbo over the years lol
Not really. Jimbo won a NC, and as a play caller. He just couldn’t adapt to today’s game.
The Aggies think they belong with the Blue Bloods because they have lots of money. They’re more like the Beverly Hillbillies, just not as funny or lovable.
They were never close under Jimbo
Sumlin never went anywhere close to 5-7
Eh, it’s hard to say they should have known that 2020 was going to be an outlier, but they finished top 4 that season. By most accounts, things were trending upwards, especially on the recruiting front, but it collapsed drastically after hiring Addazio and the o line started to crumble. That happened really fast in hindsight. At least the boosters owned up to their mistake and didn’t try to fire him for cause or anything like that.
@@CAROLINA_BULLDOGZ That's not true. Let's recap:
2014 season: Needed a 14-point fourth quarter comeback and overtime to beat Arkansas, a late defensive stop to beat UL Monroe by 5, and a fluke Auburn fumble inside the five to beat Auburn. That could have very easily been 4-8 instead of 7-5 in the regular season. The only other game that season within 1 score was a 34-27 loss to Missouri.
2015 season: Needed a late comeback to beat Arkansas in overtime and a late defensive stop to beat South Carolina. None of the other games that season were within 1 score. That season could have ended 6-6 instead of 8-4.
2016 season: Needed overtime after blowing a 24-9 fourth quarter lead to beat a 5-win UCLA team. Needed 2 overtimes to beat Tennessee after blowing a 35-21 lead with 4 minutes left in the game. The Mississippi State and Ole Miss games were lost by a combined 8 points. That season could have ended 6-6 or 10-2.
All three of those seasons came AFTER Kevin Sumlin got his fully guaranteed contract extension.
@@caderebstock Fisher made two crippling critical mistakes after Elko left:
1. Not promoting Elijah Robinson to defensive coordinator. Durkin has shown that he is completely clueless when it comes to fielding a full defense. His defenses have either been inept on pass defense or inept on run defense.
2. Already mentioned Addazio, but Fisher has a history of bad offensive line coaches.
Mark Stoops
Jon Sumrall.........stop goiing down the same path...get something off the vine...not in the same old barrel
A&M is kinda delusional, they think they are a better program then they have ever been. Realistically they should be happy with 7-8 win seasons with the occasional 9-10 win season peppered in. Historically in the 121 years they have existed they have only finished ranked 28 times.
They dont think that.? They have all the resources for 10+ win seasons and a natty. That’s what they want just like everyone.
They are not kinda delusional, they're FULLY delusional
Your sources are wrong .. A*M averaged an 11th NCAA football ranking from 1990-1999 - that's 10 years right there.. and won National Championships in the Teens and 1930s. Jackie Sherill/Slocum years in the 80's were fantastic .. Thanks for the BS.
Jimbo didn’t let anyone down, he did his very best. The hiring group let us down again, and they stay where they are and get to do it again. Only the idiots lose money, Jimbo didn’t.
Jimbo absolutely did not live up to expectations - even his own expectations based on his recruiting success. He had everything he asked for and squandered it all, so it was time to move on.
The train wreck 5-7 losing season last year in 2022 wasn't a let down? With supposedly the best recruiting class in the USA? A worse record than Sumlin after being tauted as the "fixer" wasn't a let down? Wake up buttercup.
Bear Bryant couldn't win a championship at ATM back in the day and it was his lowest win percentage 63.% vs 71, 72, 82. Jimbo was extremely successful at FSU before coming to ATM, if Jimbo can't win there I don't think anyone but Saban/Kirby/Dabo/Urban could and I'm not sure any of them would have more than 1 championship. With OUT adding to the conference idk how it will get easier either.
A&M was not an elite job until at earliest the 80’s. Since Johnny Manziel, A&M boosters have turned up their support to the maximum. Jimbo was the first hire since Johnny and he was an unfortunate miss there. We’re still very early in the post-Johnny, super-spender A&M era.
This isn’t 100 years of being the richest program with the worst results. It’s at most 50, which makes it more like Georgia before they hired Kirby.
That's a false statement. Bear Bryant DID win a championship in the 1956 season, posting a 9-0-1 record and winning the Southwest Conference. Even if A&M didn't tie Houston that season, they would have not won the national championship. Oklahoma, who went 10-0 and ALSO DIDN'T PLAY IN A BOWL, was given the title.
And you guys are comparing this debacle to Bear Bryant. You guys are as stupid as I thought!
@@caderebstockHaving money doesn't equal elite. What have they won recently?..... Nothing!
@@Mr.Wonderful731 we’re talking about the job being elite, not the success of prior coaching staffs. How do you think coaches get paid, or facilities get built? Money matters a lot when evaluating the job. You can argue with a wall if you think A&M is not a top 10 JOB in cfb.
The timing is based on the price of oil. The boosters are picking up the one time up front charge of $19.3 million, and the wealthy boosters mostly have oil money. The price of oil is high right now, but it could go down significantly in the next few years due to recession or other events, and Texas A&M did not want to risk waiting a couple of more years, when maybe they could not afford to buy him out if the boosters didn't have the money.
lol @ AtM