Hi Keith. The progressive springs were one of the first upgrades I made on my T120, you can definitely notice the difference - far better action. Never suffered any clunking though, before or after changing them.
Hi Mate, Yes, I've just been out for a couple of hours, definite improvement, do know what the clunking is big it's virtually gone now. The seat is as an absolute game changer though. 2 hours, no sore botty. Absolutely brilliant.
I got some uprated rear shocks for my GoldStar from tec last year at £88 Inc postage. I gave tec my not inconsiderable weight and height and they produced the shocks to those specs. I put them on setting 3 but have to admit that suspension has always been a mystery to me so it was just a guess. I feel its a big improvement but like you is this because i want it to be.
Hi Ian, funny enough ,I've got some Ikon shocks coming off flea bay that the fella assures me will be a wonderful improvement. But then, he is selling them! Let's see👍 Thanks for commenting👍
Great video Keith. I'm glad the new springs worked out well for you. Looks like a simple modification with great benefits. Glad to see you are doing well! Stay safe!
@shottostravels I don't know, they say the newer ones have a better front suspension, but I can't tell. It rides nice. I like the idea of Ohlins in the rear but I can't come up with a justifier. 😂
Really pleased to see this video Keith. As I’ve said before I changed both front and rear suspension on my previous 2004 Bonnie (Hagons) and could tell the difference with a more stable ride (although comfort wise it felt similar). I hate the front suspension on my Bud Ekins - it dips on braking at traffic lights and is terrible on some sweeping turns. Will change mine next year I think.
£ for £, the general consensus is that money spent on suspension gives greater reward than any spent on performance upgrades elsewhere. £70 is a bargain. Talking to Tony at Hagon he also recommends upgrading the fork springs on my T120 😊
Indeed, don't forget that Triumph improved the suspension from 21 on. So I'm not sure if this only applies to the earlier model. 16-21. Ride safe Mate.👍 ( If you can, try a T100 too, it might surprise you!)
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Hi Dave, Thanks, I hope you find something interesting in my Bimbling around. Martin doesn't live too far away from me, he lives in a very scenic area. I too fairly recently retired and the you tube thing is a bit of a hobby. Thanks for Subscribing.👍
Another great video for Sunday morning. Shows how easy it is to DIY the springs. Just a thought, have you considered changing the oil in the forks? Some have said that a different grade of oil helps - like with the RD350 I have. Have a think 👍
Morning Richard. Thanks for your thoughts and kind words Fork oil, no, I hadn't but I reckon you're right, I guess that changing the oil would alter things. I don't think you need to do this on your newer Bonnie, Triumph did change the suspension on those. Ride safe Mate👍
Morning Keith, definitely a worthwhile mod, they will get better with a few miles on them they need to bed in, according to the wife all of us over 60’s behave like 4 year olds 😂😂 all the best buddy 👍
Thanks Mike, good to hear they will get better with time, there has been an instant improvement already. Have you done yours? If only I was 4 and knew what I know now, eh?
@@shottostravels don’t need to with mine, Triumph fitted progressive springs to the new speed twin from 2019 with the upgrades, it’s just the rear suspension that needs to be upgraded, it’s under sprung and under dampened 😦 not quite a cheap fix if you want to do it right 😉 but next on the list of to do 😉🤣
Hello Keith, bit late to the party here. I fitted the same springs earlier this year to my 2018 T100. Wasn't particularly impressed with the improvement. So, went on to fit fork Emulators, drill larger holes in the damper rods and fitted preload adjusters. So nearer £200. Still not particularly impressed with the result. Question is, why did Triumph fit such agricultural shocks on a bike intended to be a easy bike to live with? If I had the money I'd upgrade to a full cartridge system upgrade from the likes of Bitubo. For me, they absolutely ruin an otherwise awesome machine.
Thanks Tim, I'm sorry, I'm not technically bright enough to follow some of that. I can honestly say that I felt a definite improvement with the front springs but not so much on the back. I swopped the back ones but put the originals back on. After a few thousand miles and a bit of regular changing/ experimenting with the preload I can now say I'm reasonably happy with them. Is it possible that they change with use, like run in? Or is it just that Zim used to them now. Dunno. Ride safe Mate👍
the best single mod. one can do. Transforms the ride and steering........ Only question is how can Triumph in all conscience, release a bike without these (ie with the original horrible non progressive front suspension)...........?
I'm confused, Keith. Progressive is obviously a suspension company, whose springs were recommended, but you said you got Tec's version of Progressive's springs, and then promoted the video as a review of Progressive's springs. Does Tec sell Progressive springs, exactly the same, as their own product, or do they mimic spring rates, or what the heck is going on? Please enlighten me. Thank you for the video!
Hi, A progressive spring is a spring where the windings, (the spaces) get progressively shorter for a certain length of the spring. This means it reacts differently under load. Tec is a supplier there are others. It is a fair point, I was presuming that people know what they are which was wrong of me. I hope that makes sense. Ride safe, thanks for commenting.👍
Hi Keith. The progressive springs were one of the first upgrades I made on my T120, you can definitely notice the difference - far better action. Never suffered any clunking though, before or after changing them.
Hi Mate, Yes, I've just been out for a couple of hours, definite improvement, do know what the clunking is big it's virtually gone now.
The seat is as an absolute game changer though.
2 hours, no sore botty.
Absolutely brilliant.
I got some uprated rear shocks for my GoldStar from tec last year at £88 Inc postage. I gave tec my not inconsiderable weight and height and they produced the shocks to those specs. I put them on setting 3 but have to admit that suspension has always been a mystery to me so it was just a guess. I feel its a big improvement but like you is this because i want it to be.
Hi Ian, funny enough ,I've got some Ikon shocks coming off flea bay that the fella assures me will be a wonderful improvement.
But then, he is selling them!
Let's see👍
Thanks for commenting👍
@@shottostravels How were they?
@@caahacky In the end they were no better than the stock ones.
Great video Keith. I'm glad the new springs worked out well for you. Looks like a simple modification with great benefits. Glad to see you are doing well! Stay safe!
Good to hear from you Wally.
They have improved the front end.
Great to see you are still here.
Ride safe Mate👍
@@shottostravels I'm not going anywhere. I look forward to watching your videos. They are well done and good spirited!
@@wallybuettner thanks.
I think I've got a good one for Sunday.
When Britain ruled the world!
In motorcycles at least.👍
Great stuff mate glad they've worked 👍
Great timelapse, and im glad the springs are working out for you! Ride safe!
Ok be just been out for a couple of hours, definitely better. But maybe not on the newer ones like yours?
Might already be in there.
👍
@shottostravels I don't know, they say the newer ones have a better front suspension, but I can't tell. It rides nice. I like the idea of Ohlins in the rear but I can't come up with a justifier. 😂
Really pleased to see this video Keith. As I’ve said before I changed both front and rear suspension on my previous 2004 Bonnie (Hagons) and could tell the difference with a more stable ride (although comfort wise it felt similar). I hate the front suspension on my Bud Ekins - it dips on braking at traffic lights and is terrible on some sweeping turns. Will change mine next year I think.
Hi Ian.
As others have said, and you know from your own experience it's worth doing.
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe 👍
£ for £, the general consensus is that money spent on suspension gives greater reward than any spent on performance upgrades elsewhere. £70 is a bargain. Talking to Tony at Hagon he also recommends upgrading the fork springs on my T120 😊
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe Mate👍
Trying out a T120 this week this is worth taking note of cheers 👌👍
Indeed, don't forget that Triumph improved the suspension from 21 on. So I'm not sure if this only applies to the earlier model. 16-21.
Ride safe Mate.👍
( If you can, try a T100 too, it might surprise you!)
hi Keith...new subscriber .over from Martin Trafford. he speaks highly of you..will back track your videos
I am an old retired fella .don't ride now or do utube.but love watching bikers travelling adventures..looking forward to watching your videos....old dave {Sunderland }
Hi Dave, Thanks, I hope you find something interesting in my Bimbling around.
Martin doesn't live too far away from me, he lives in a very scenic area.
I too fairly recently retired and the you tube thing is a bit of a hobby.
Thanks for Subscribing.👍
Another great video for Sunday morning. Shows how easy it is to DIY the springs. Just a thought, have you considered changing the oil in the forks? Some have said that a different grade of oil helps - like with the RD350 I have. Have a think 👍
Morning Richard.
Thanks for your thoughts and kind words
Fork oil, no, I hadn't but I reckon you're right, I guess that changing the oil would alter things.
I don't think you need to do this on your newer Bonnie, Triumph did change the suspension on those.
Ride safe Mate👍
Shiny side up riding to you
Looking forward to seeing your next video
Thanks Mate ride safe👍
Great video, might have a look at doing this on my Interceptor 👍
I have been told it by two different people that it is a worthwhile investment for the Interceptor.
Ride safe Mate👍
@shottostravels Thanks mate, you too 👍
Great timelapse but please drop that twangy guitar based racket.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Ride safe👍
I like the music!
Morning Keith, definitely a worthwhile mod, they will get better with a few miles on them they need to bed in, according to the wife all of us over 60’s behave like 4 year olds 😂😂 all the best buddy 👍
@@PeterHolland-mu7yn morning Peter 👍
Thanks Mike, good to hear they will get better with time, there has been an instant improvement already.
Have you done yours?
If only I was 4 and knew what I know now, eh?
@@shottostravels don’t need to with mine, Triumph fitted progressive springs to the new speed twin from 2019 with the upgrades, it’s just the rear suspension that needs to be upgraded, it’s under sprung and under dampened 😦 not quite a cheap fix if you want to do it right 😉 but next on the list of to do 😉🤣
Interesting that Keith 🤔 might have to consider it...or buy a top box for me tarts instead 😂
A wise man once said "You've got to have somewhere to put your stuff"
Oh no, that was me!
@@shottostravels 😁
Hello Keith, bit late to the party here. I fitted the same springs earlier this year to my 2018 T100. Wasn't particularly impressed with the improvement. So, went on to fit fork Emulators, drill larger holes in the damper rods and fitted preload adjusters. So nearer £200. Still not particularly impressed with the result. Question is, why did Triumph fit such agricultural shocks on a bike intended to be a easy bike to live with? If I had the money I'd upgrade to a full cartridge system upgrade from the likes of Bitubo. For me, they absolutely ruin an otherwise awesome machine.
Thanks Tim, I'm sorry, I'm not technically bright enough to follow some of that.
I can honestly say that I felt a definite improvement with the front springs but not so much on the back.
I swopped the back ones but put the originals back on.
After a few thousand miles and a bit of regular changing/ experimenting with the preload I can now say I'm reasonably happy with them.
Is it possible that they change with use, like run in?
Or is it just that Zim used to them now.
Dunno.
Ride safe Mate👍
the best single mod. one can do. Transforms the ride and steering........ Only question is how can Triumph in all conscience, release a bike without these (ie with the original horrible non progressive front suspension)...........?
Thanks for commenting.
Apparently they have sorted it on the Mk 2 version.
Ride safe Mate 👍
@@shottostravels I hadn't heard that? Excellent.....now put the mainstand back!😀
I'm confused, Keith. Progressive is obviously a suspension company, whose springs were recommended, but you said you got Tec's version of Progressive's springs, and then promoted the video as a review of Progressive's springs. Does Tec sell Progressive springs, exactly the same, as their own product, or do they mimic spring rates, or what the heck is going on? Please enlighten me. Thank you for the video!
Hi, A progressive spring is a spring where the windings, (the spaces) get progressively shorter for a certain length of the spring.
This means it reacts differently under load.
Tec is a supplier there are others.
It is a fair point, I was presuming that people know what they are which was wrong of me.
I hope that makes sense.
Ride safe, thanks for commenting.👍