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- A small clip from a very old documentary on Eva Peron. Please note that this documentary is very hostile, one-sided, incredibly inaccurate and negative towards Eva Peron but it has some interesting footage which is why I have posted this small clip. For research purposes however, this documentary is not useful for the reasons cited above.
Sorry for the inferior transfer and keep the disagreements of Evita civil or the posts will be deleted.
Cheers.
.... gave the poor Universal Healthcare which according to stats improved death rates within the poor (malnutrition, cholera) & provided first-aid & relief to countries outside of Argentina such as Turkey, Isreal & even the US ..was doing this for herself when her fame was already in tact. You can't name one other political figure other than Mother Theresa who did so much for the poor. All of this Eva accomplished between 1947-1952. Her accomplishments are massive & her haters usually ignore.
Let's hear it for the Rainbow Tour,
It's been an incredible success
We weren't sure, we had a few doubts
- Will Evita win through?
- And the answer is yes !
- And no...
- And yes !
- And no.
- And yes !
- No.
I had the opportunity to talk to a patient of mine that was from Argentina and grew up under the Peron's rule. I asked him what his thoughts about them were and he stated that they were "Good to the people, but ultimetly TOO good to the people causing economic issues". Funny how everyone see them differently.
I adore this woman and have read 10 books about her or so. It fascinates me that as soon an an american accent comments on her, it is to degrade her and make her look like a secret manipulative capitalist. Even her enemies in Argentina, the aristocracy, hesitated to make such claims about her. I am middle of the road politically myself. The USA Hollywood production "Evita Person" was probably the biggest character assassination of any celebrity in history. The woman was genuine. Not especially bright and simplified life. She asked the question "why are so many people so poor when there is so much money in the world? Thanks to her, Argentina has a health service, woman have the vote, nursery school and alike. It is worth noticing that countries that critisice her have still not managed to present their own poorest citizens with health services. Not because of the governments, but because of its own citizens resenting the idea of assisting its so called fellow citizens. Survival of the fittest demonstrated in those groups that populate the top 1% of human wealth.
Mulattokid Johnson . Not all of the US hate Evita . Do remember it was the US that really showed the world all about Evita . I know lots of Americans who love Evita ! It was Britain & France & Italy that trashed Evita . We all understand she was not a saint but I believe she truly loved her people & tried the hardest to help them . I'm an American & we were taught about Evita in a very good way . She was a great first lady who loved her people . RIP Evita ...
@EnzFab73 CONT: Lastly, Argentina may have been fat with dollars but few had access to its riches as history clearly shows us. Blaming Eva for all of Argentina's woes is somewhat laughable. Many still do but it takes more than ONE woman to ruin a county & digging deeper into Argentine history prior to 1945 and after 1952, it will expose and unmask Argentina as a politically violent place whose woes go far back, years before the world knew of a bejewelled blond called Eva Peron.
Hilarious. I love the ending where it says, "She has decided she'd like to be the Vice President and nothing will stand in her way, not even Peron!" It's just such nonsense!
Thanks for posting, it's a shame this documentary is so biased (and incorrect) as there's some great footage. Evita did so much for her people but often this gets overlooked by people who choose to believe the anti-peronist lies that are still around today. Viva Evita!
Oh, this is the notorious Biography from years ago. I remember seeing this when I was about 17 and thinking it was just vicious toward Evita.
Infelizmente não há conheci, mas me rendo aos seus encantos, beleza e humanismo. Viva Eva, viva Eva peron!!!
@am1966ath Where do you get the idea that Eva disliked people. Those who knew her personally state otherwise. No one but Evita knew what her true motivations were. Not Webber, not Rice, not Mary Main, not John Barnes & defintely not the m0r0ns who researched this ridiculous documentary or those who have a bone to pick with Eva Peron. When I see these idiots working 20 hours a day, kissing lepers, receiving the poor & cover themselves with lice, create a womens political movement .....
@EnzFab73 CONT ..that initiated women entering politics in a male dominated society, introduce healthcare for all to a nation where only the rich benefitted, visit slums, shanties & forgotten parts of the country & hand out clothes/food/toys with free medical checkups, create a foundation that built thousands of establishments from hospitals, schools, orphanages, shelters, vacation retreats for lower income families & send First Aid to other contries..then they may have a reason to talk.
I deleted your comment by accident. 2nd time I do this today. Further to your comment, no one but Evita knows what her motivations are. It's hard for those who have researched her to accept that a woman who worked 18+ hours a day, built 1000's of establishments-homes,schools, orphanages, hostels, old age homes, vacation retreats for the poor, gave women the vote & PERSONALLY went to shanties, remote country villages to hand out food & clothes or sat for hours listening to the poor.....
Where can I obtain or watch the full documentary? Pretty Please! The footage is amazing and of good quality compared to others.
P.S Nothing bad said or written about Eva could convince me other wise. In my eyes she's a Saviour and a Saint. A true role model
Thanks for your comment and sorry for the late reply. I only have this documentary in VHS form and no longer have a functioning VCR. I do remember someone loaded this biography in its entirety here on TH-cam.. but I am not sure if it is still around. Although the content is negative, the commentary actually gets worse as the biography moves along.. the footage is pretty good. However the small footage I downloaded here, showing her during her Rainbow Tour, is the clearest and best in the documentary.
Thank you very much. For the reply and the footage:)
@EnzFab73 CONT: Like one of her more reasonable opponents stated "Had we done for the poor a tiny fraction of what Eva has done,there never would have been a Peron & she would still be a bad actress". U mean to tell me that the administrations PRIOR to Peron were successful? Why do so many historians refer to the Argentine situation of the 30s as "The Infamous Decade", why was there so much political upheaval & violence?Strikes?Poverty?Social unrest?Exploitation?
The wardrobes clearly threw US reporters totally off the story. I'd assume that Latinos would figure a guy like Peron who had a woman like that and DIDN'T dress her as well as he did would be some sort of an asshole. I notice that the fancy stuff only seemed to come out for state functions; scenes of Eva interacting with normal people show her dressed modestly.
@storm915 There have been several Peronists administrations in Argentina since Eva's demise and the current female president adores Eva Peron. This women is more alive today in the minds of her people than you think.. I should know, I spoke to many of them when I went to Chile back in Feb and the passion is still there. No matter how much you deny it, this woman will not go away. Cheers.
The Peron couple was necessary in those years.. would i vote for them now? No way, maybe Juan Perón in his 70's version, he was old and weak, but he was much more mature and wise than before
I always felt that Eva’s relentless and obsessive hatred for the oligarchs and the bourgeois was personal, she never forgave her father’s wealthy family for the suffering they caused to her mother and siblings. She projected her inner demons and hurt onto the upper classes because she never got closure for her childhood trauma.
@GoddessofHyrule I find this newsreel to be neither hostile nor one-sided. Who said that Evita was kind or loving? The poor payed for her jewells and the wealth of her & her husband came from embazzling a welfare fundation. Evita was not kind or tolerant against those that disagreed with her and she tolerated no critizism.
Her way of speaking to the Argentinian people is in the fashion of a dictator talking to infantils.
@EnzFab73 Hispanics love glamour...but her ways in power was not nice or glamourous against those that didn t play along with what she wanted...I wonder what kind of friends those old ladies calling her a saint where as she was known to dislike people in general..she hated to be reminded about her old days and the people who helped her...her voice is harsh, she talks in spanish about parasits and oligarchs while she and her husband was the biggest oligarchs in Argentina through theft.
@GoddessofHyrule Very true..when you divide a society the way she did then objectivity becomes blurred.
@am1966ath Well this documentary is riddled with gossip and mis-information. It is actually humorous to a certain degree. Whether you think it's not hostile or one-sided doesn't hide the fact that those that heavily research the woman, it is a failed attempt at a history lesson. This documentary was branded on a footnote of a good latin american history book as an example "of the biased in North American news reporting".
@GoddessofCoruscant And prior to the Perons there will millions of people being exploited and mistreated by a government that didn't give a rats behind about them even though they were the ones pumping the lifeblood through their beloved countrys economy. Try researching the governments prior to Eva. Explain the social & economic unrest? why so many strikes? Military coups? corruption? poverty? malnutrition & diseases? Argentina was fat with $'s but who benefitted?
$15 million of jewellry WTF ? Where did that money come from ? Wow in those days it woulda fed ALL the poor for a year in Argentina surely and whose paying for the ship of wheat she said shes giving to Spain ?
Those who have abilities to understand the spiritual existence ‘ the soul ‘ , will always recognise her and love her considering her as a true Saint. The mankind and the conditions of world after beginning of 18th century , become so unethical that even Saints find them difficult to work and protect Ethics among mankind. Anyway, She struggled very much in her life even though, did her best and lived holy life that would have placed her in any one heaven of Universe
From : Girish Patel, Gujarat , India.
@ Nicolas Murgia, lol I Love that movie and, I'm quite interested in Eva Peron as well as, Argentina. She was a BEAUTIFUL WOMAN!
did anyone ever find the original old documentary? I found it in years past and forgot to save it and now I cannot track it down?
@plainandthere88 The Italians had lived through Fascism for 20years and her comes a lady who payed tribute to the remaining fascist ruler of Europe..Franscisco Franco..should they have respected her?? the french are weak for female beauty and jewellry..but the french were not ruled by Evita to have an opinion on more than her appearance.
@EnzFab73 No Argentinian newreel of the period could have been objetive..she would be described as a saint or by those who disliked her as a prostitute. Argentina was very far away in those pre-jet and CNN-times and what happend in faraway countries was seen as exotic,pitoresque and of little consequence from the view from London or New York.
She was beautiful
@debzeppeliniv Her husband, Juan Domingo certainly had pro-nazi views..I don t think she had..she was a mix of mother Theresa and Al Capone, with a little Robin Hood and Rockefeller thrown in..
@EnzFab73 That is true...I visited Buenos Argentina an found the widespread poverty among middle class people in such a rich country offensive. The argentinians are a talanted and generous people, they shouldn t suffer the way they do. All Evitas ideas were not wrong but turning a country and its society/economy into your private playground isn t okey with me. When Evita was gone and Juan Domingo went to Madrid,the argentinian poor were still poor and left to be govern by sadistical officers.
This is not pegged correctly at all. Anyone who has researched Evita & take their sources from scholars/historians who have spent decades researching her know how ridiculously biased this is. If you want to believe the gossip or those who take their references from yellow journalists, a musical & those who had a bone to pick with Evita, great but to state this as fact is laughable. A lot of the commentator's gossip has been disproved of by scholars, the problem is people don't want to listen.
@quaxk I can make a lengthy list of Eva’s accomplishments, all done within 6 years (many country leaders have not been able to accomplish within such a short time, never mind a first lady) & also list several reasons as to why 1000's if not millions in her country came about to deify her. I may not agree with it but there are reasons & it stems from Hispanic culture, Eva’s emergence in politics within a sensitive political landscape & within a society scarred by class & gender divisions.
Wow... this is a VERY subjective documentary I see...
Actually are ANY watchers of this video adult Argentinians and please tell me what do your people think of Eva Peron then ?
Nobodys comments make sense she did so much for argintina!
This is so true, but then, should we stand by and say nothing when when opinions unjustly express a "better than thou" attitude? American journalists, today, and in the past when news reporters actually announced their views as unbiased, are supposed to provide a fair and balanced view. Yes, no one is truly objective, but aren't there times when you feel or think, "hey, that is simply over the line" ? Honestly, I would not put FOX (very slanted) in the same category as CNN. Maybe MSNBC though.
I like how the narrator guy pronounces her name wrong.
@XxpauldadudexX When you are very poor and a good looking and well dress women comes along and gives your children toys and yourself clothes and food and milk..youll love her. Her husband used her personality to enrich himself..when she died he went into exile in Madrid..fabulously wealthy. Evita probably had complexes about her poor background and struggling past..she was very mean to all those that helped her or had shown her any kindness..ungratefulness is the ways of the world,unfortunately
@plainandthere88 No my friend..Im not Argentinian although I have visited Argentina and find its people to be hospitable and Buenos Aires to be beautiful..the problem is that when you live in a country under a ruler of sorts you have another opinion than when you see them from the outside..for example many western intellectualls admired Stalin and Mao..but they were not their subjets and subjected to their rule. You are right that Evita wasn t fascist but she wasn t a democrat..more a rakeeter
Viva Evita Peron. We Love Evita.
@EnzFab73 Exactly, nobody really knew her but her behaviour was n t nice if you didn t agree with her..people who come from humble beginnings usually hate to be reminded from where they came and they usually hate people from their past who knew them before the transformation into stardom..unfortunately very human.
am1966ath says exactly the same that I also agree about; and just wanna say, there is no wisdom in sentiment, just glamour and gleaming glories, that is what people need from a historical distance, 'cas people are thirsty of humble recognition
of the unique; even often that unique is not correct. that is really mass psychological fact. People need even often obstructive too look up on. thats how antagonistic and controversial the world as it is really
@XxpauldadudexX I tell you were the money came from..Evita had a wellfare-fund that all working people and businesses in Argentina had to contribute to..Evita disliked any audit of this fund so she stuck her hands deep
and took the money to buy all that jewellry,becoming the richest women in South America in the process.
In brief..the poor payed for her 15$million jewellry.
@DreamstateEmergency Hovewer she(Evita) was no Stalin nor Polpott or Saddam Hussein but she had iron fists, unsuitable for an elected president and his wife and also a advanced country that Argentina was/is..unfortunately with social differences.
@XxpauldadudexX Poor women/mothers are not glamourous enough for media and film..the world loves cinderella stories..Evita resembles Maos wife who herself was an actor in Shanghai in the 1930 before becoming a queen of equality,demanding that her subjects live in egalitarian poverty while herself living in luxury..she herself were very vindictive against those that knew her before she became Madam Mao. Poverful people hate to be reminded about their past, and people frm their past.
@XxpauldadudexX Politics become passion in some countries..and passion blurs all sense of reality. The poor never asked her were her jewellry came from..her husbands monthly salary was 2000$..how can his wife buy 15$million worth of jewellry???
They could at least have the courtesy of pronouncing her name correctly! It's said Ava, not Eva!!!
You're the smartest one here. How do you vote?
@am1966ath I bet its that madonna movie Evita people think is a true story that she was a saint. The Argentine poor people sound the noble ones...a million times nicer than these egoists who led them. Sad but its true , the nicest ladies in most nations are the poor mothers who are too loving n trusting but I'd rather have them as my mother than Eva
Eva Peron was not fascist in a better term of phalanx, since spanish world history of the last century was just different from the bolshevik and nationalist german ideas by geographic facts of better weather circumstances and no tight circumstances that forcing a system to mass exterminations within because of catastrophic food shortages
Cornejod,
It seems all the more putrid since it comes from the voice of the "objective" journalist Mike Wallace. It's really an amazing shame that American television creates these caricatures of complex historical figure.
It´s incredible!
She has been reincarnated as Obama!
But with greater adoration!
I hate how the narrator pronounces her name, "Ee-va."
Nasty
She has been reincarnated as Obama!
@am1966ath ~ It's called Fascism.
typical english/american propagandist narrator!!
Where can I obtain or watch the full documentary? Pretty Please! The footage is amazing and of good quality compared to others.
P.S Nothing bad said or written about Eva could convince me other wise. In my eyes she's a Saviour and a Saint. A true role model