You know what would really help with this? ANY kind of controller calibration options in game, maybe a sensitivity slider or options to adjust deadzones.
Breaking in this game is so much more realistic. I find myself trail breaking like I do when I'm out on track. I like the fact that you can't just jam on the front brake. You can't do that on a real bike either.
Thats what Im trying to say to haha.. its true.. the physics of this game is realistic. Unlike MotoGP 19.. I always use the front break very hard but it wont life the rear wheel
1. Heavy braking, always have the bike with a bit of lean, will bring the rear around and moves the balance of the bike making stoppies less frequent 2. In the set-up,use smaller front disc's,will be easier to ride harder but will still need moderate amount of management 3. Power mapping is a good way to preserve rear Tyre Temps, biggest issue for rear loss of traction nearly always is overheating,keep your temp cool and your tyres will give you better performance 4. Most of the issues that people have with braking/acceleration can't be dialed out with set-up's,play around with them and you will make the bike suit your style of riding Robo's tips are the fundamentals and should work for majority but the tips above are more niche tips that may help a small few Good luck!
@Stephen Williams unfortunately no such thing as a good set-up, everyone's riding style is different, unlike other games, there's no one fix all set-up
@@colind5788 I found when I did a gp I annoyingly needed traction control on which I know isn't right for moto2, guess I just need more practice balancing the throttle
Thank you for the advice on the breaking, I have a disability when limits my my dexterity using the PS4 controller. I've mapped the rear brake to the backward weight transfer (weight transfer doesn't work anyway its the wrong way round) on the steering and with a bit of practice I've improved my lap times no end, what a difference well chuffed thank you.
I’m an absolute amateur at this game, the last time I played Max Biaggi was riding on a bike that’s now in the historic section and Rossi was at Repsol Honda I think 😂
Same here. :) Just got an Xbox one X same day as Motogp 20. One of my biggest problems is the last game I played the throttle was a button in the place gear change up is on Xbox controller. I keep going to get hard on throttle out of corners and end up going up 1 or 2 gears.
Two complaints about braking in motogp20: rear brake is too weak and front brake lacks feel. Hard to tell when you are going to lose grip. Aggressive braking is very risky.
Dusan Todorovic yeah it was better in 19. I fell a few times do to hard braking. Instead of the controller vibrating intensely when you’re about to lose grip, it vibrates the whole time and it’s hard to tell.
It's more realistic I'm still not used to it but started understanding it. IRL they never go fully to the max braking pressure so it's just to us to adapt
The rear brake on bikes are weak in real life. You'd only really use it at low speed, at the very entrance to a corner or mid corner to tighten your line
@@Random63R400 huh? definitely on motogp bikes. It's the same thing. Even more so. The weight is on the front for braking, there is no benefit to having a strong rear brake, it will just lock the wheel. Look up any motogp riders style, the front brake is used for actual braking. It's why they can dangle their leg off the bike before the corner. Obviously if the foot is off the bike, the rear brake isn't being used(apart from the few that use a thumb brake) . The rear brake is literally used to manage the way the bike squats and to tighten a line in cornering.
Okay,I have an idea for an advanced episode, "How to 500cc around tight tracks like Sachsenring with 'real' assists" those things are bloody murder machines and you cannot shortshift them because their powerband is so small. Damn, Unrideables. If they made an esport category for them, there you'd truely see who has the best throttle control.
It's taken me a while but I'm pretty settled into my play style now. I ride for a bit, crash, ride for a bit crash. I am shite at tarmac motorcycle games but I never let them beat me. I will take your lessons to the track and probably crash, not because of your hints/tips but because my brain is small and filled with knowledge of racing on four wheels and wrapped up in a cage. Anyway fresh Sub here.
If the physics are realistic, my advice is to try and be on the throttle for the majority of the corner to get the bike to turn, feathering it while at full lean. Try and get all your braking done before the apex. More weight on the front will increase the contact patch size on the tyre and decrease it's turning efficiency. You will run wide and struggle to hit the apex by trail braking too far. Look up the A Twist of the Wrist videos for more detail on bike dynamics. This is one of those counter intuitive quirks of riding a motorcycle.
Agreed, Twist of the wrist is where its at! However, while this game is awesome , real life physics of the motorcycle do not apply as much as I would prefer. Close, but the throttle control and weight shift as you mentioned are missing.
@@the_hza I haven't played it but it looks like there might be a slight penalty to turn when under braking. I haven't really liked the Milestone games that much. Ride 2 didn't do it for me. I lost interest after tourist trophy, motogp3 and sbk 08.
Thanks robo just what I needed as nobody really explained this before. Have asked in a few vids about bike setup settings too. As always superb content
Hi, Thanks for this video. I picked up this game a week ago...Usually play and get the Platinum trophy each year, but I have troubles with this game so far. Hope someone can advise on the following...At this moment getting used to the braking is very frustrating. Although I support the idea of this braking mechanism being more realistic, I think Milestone really failed implementing it well here, they should have implemented that the controller vibrates when braking to hard, just like in de F1 games in which you feel when the brakes are about to lockup... I struggle with the acceleration too, especially with the 500cc bikes. They wheelie all the time exiting slow corners, throttle seems to feel binary (on/off). Also the sound is very bad (useless) when you apply a little throttle, the sound is just less loud, the rpm progression of the bike sounds unreal and badly mapped to the PS4 R2 button/trigger. All tips/help are welcome and appreciated!
I use keyboard for this game, and on my experience if I keep both the front and rear brake on when braking into a corner, the braking feels less powerful compared to when I'm just using my front brake I do feel better in late braking when im using my front brake with a little bit of rear brake as soon as I need to brake, and then just rely on the front brake to help me slow down and turn. Using too much rear brake may affects your bike ability to accelerate out of a corner later on (sliding too much)
yes a lot of quick tapping and it hurts my fingers!! definitely gonna buy a wireless controller one day. ive been buying a lot of useless games on steam so that's why im still stuck with keyboard
On MotoGP 19 I was unbeaten on Losail with my Suzuki setup (literally like 15 on wins in a row on Losail), playing GP 20 feels so different, only won 5 races online since I started playing last week, still getting used to, I've still got the braking muscle memory from MotoGP 19 so I end up losing the front more often than not
I just got the game. I finished moto3 and 2. I was cornering with no problem and making the bike do what I wanted. I get into GP.... I can't make a single corner without falling. Even at the slowest speed trying to make those tight corners the bike falls. If I go any faster the bike wants to see need steer and make really wide turns and also not slow down I am not sure how to set the bike up for it to stop. I'm currently in the Austin track trying to make something happen.
Oh gosh, I actually forgot to thank you here for the information. I actually use the short-shifting quite often. ^-^ Though going in a bit too deep in corners to prepare a run is something I actually used for a while, the thing you said about the hairpin corners. It is not only for them, sometimes, many times in a race you can use that strategy to get pass some riders (even more in MotoGP20 than in the earlier games). :D But true as it is. I love to let more speed in the bike for the corners, then accelerate faster as well, because of Aprilia. Although I am not having an aggressive riding style in the way usually people are, I mainly pass people like that, but that means I am at least 3 tenths faster in that sector than the racer in front of me, or just a lot faster out of that specific corner. :D Everyone with their own riding style really. :) But this tutorial is actually good, and really clear.
What about weight shifting? On motoGP 19 you can push forward and back on the left stick. If you tuck in it actually sits up? So thats a bit wierd. Pushing forward on the brakes will make you stoppie though so does have an effect. Maybe can shorten braking zone? but can only really use in a straight line as its on the steering stick.
Hi Robo! Could you please make tutorial for gear shifting? I've got like 70h+ on motogp 19 and now I'm playing lot a of motogp20 but I've never shifting manually. Some tips would be nice! :)
Just try it. Hop into time trial and and just do laps. You will fail at first shifting to late and hitting the rev-limiter or messing up braking zone cause you are shifting too fast or too slow, but at some point you will find out what gears to use through which corners and how fast you can downshift without unsettling the bike. The great thing is, once you learned it on one game, you can use it on any game.
I learn shifting in f1 games and it really help improve my lap times. And it wasn't that hard, but on gamepad its something different... i'll try my best to learn shifting on motogp games. But thanks for respond all of you guys!
Good tutorial Robo thanks! One thing I found that helps with keeping the rear down a little bit under braking is using the smaller front brake disc. Idk if it is just placebo but it seemed to help me a bit. Have not tried it on the GP bikes yet, but it seems to be helping in my current Moto2 career. Cheers!
Haha Haha!! You beat me too it Robo. Still going g to upload my tut, as I have a diff take/approach but i learnt something from you, about the rear locking with engine breaking...so thanks, and I need to take another look at that section :-) Top vid.
Haha thanks mate!!! Yeah like I said in the video everyone has different play styles so the more different technique tutorials out there the better 👍 glad you learnt something though!
I don't now if you say that cause I'm french and don't understand all, but for me, I touch just half second the rear brake, and after the front brake at 90/95%, and dégressive brake until to apex corner
Try to brake hard on front first and the bike start to lift the rear brake hard with the rear and flow with the corner because the bike corner much better with the rear breaks , so make sense to me to real last with the rear for better flow cornering
Great tutorial Robo - Those who have ridden a motorcycle on the road or track will understand the importance of the rear brake & how its used for corner entry (BTW Simon Crafar has posted an excellent tutorial via MotoVudu on rear braking)...Looks like MotoGP mirrors real world physics pretty well...
@Stephen Williams yup, I'm not asking for anybody's bank details & realise whatever they post will never be tailor made for me ffs but what I'd like is at least an explanation of what does what !! Unless you've played this series for more than 2 seasons (like me) your in the dark, this is we're the learning curve is too steep.. theres obviously some niche inside info somewhere because how comes the Esport guys got so good so quickly, Vale reckons he learn't the game in a few weeks, bullshit ??
@@hoodedcobra1531 dude I've had motorbikes for years, ex car mechanic, & tuning since the days of Geoff Cramond but what I'm saying is you can't excell at anything without a baseline initial understanding !!!
For anyone struggling with braking on ps4 with the gp bikes, I found a cheap 3rd party control pad from a shop that rhymes with wee and phlegm was a lot better under braking as the triggers have more resistance. Far easier to hold at 60-70% than the sony pad which maxes the brakes out too soon and has flimsy triggers. Won't make you crash proof but without it i wouldn't even play the game at all.
I just bought this game.. man.. breaking is hard.. I mean, with the autobreaking it is a wall in the park.. but when it comes to more realistic riding, it is tough as hell.. tks for your vid!
@@schumifan78 I mean regard all the mechanics behind it... i already improved in the last days.. but is still hard to make the corners entrances hard.. i.e, I keep crashing and going straight into the sand/grass...
When playing with keyboard you have to release and break again all the time. I have no chance to use a break only half way or whatever and that makes the break physics still worse
rear brake doesn't really have much effect I think... I feel like you cabt really feel it or see it really working like it should. what I do is lightly pull it in and feather the front brake with tapping the rear brake button and then roll on the gas thru the corners and open it up while I'm starting to exit the turn
I started a career done moto 3 and moto 2 but soon as I got into MotoGP I don’t even want to use the brakes the bike just slides and falls round corners I really hate it I literally go round corners like a snail now and I just hestitate too much because this brake system is whack
What is the best setup for button configuration? I struggle with front and rear brake setup but now I use square fpr the front brake and triangle for the rear. Dissadvantage of this buttons are locking, because I cant regulate the pressure of bitton so I nees to tap them.
How do you stop wheelies, I’m in moto2 with AW upgraded and on 4 and the wheel constantly lifts, you go so slowly and until you hit 100mph it goes down! Stupid
MoToToM Then i think its a bug. I believe there are many bugs in the physics in this game. For example i have big problem in MotoGP now. I have Ducati. I’m pretty good in braking in this game. Fully understand the braking mechanics. Always braking 70-80% BUT.. One lap, braking is perfect and next lap in this same spot my rear wheel goes up right away. And braking is same maybe less %. It doesnt make any sense! And next lap again everything Is fine.
I've tried this before, and I can go around the corner perfectly but looking at the replay, the AI seems to come at full throttle. At losail, I get so annoyed because I'm almost lifting the back wheel, breaking as hard and as late as possible and the AI is still able to shorten the distance by 100m, sometimes more. and this is at 100%.
I thought it was just me that notice that and the AI is ridiculous with it. I'm taking those corners 150 and the AI is taking the corners going 300. I'm like what the fuck. Smh.
Real problem with the braking if you still using ps 2 controller just like me , you cant half press the brake button neither throttle button for me you just have to get feel for it
I went straight @ carrer mode and signed with aprilia so haven’t even tried any other bikes yet , I don’t know if it’s the bike but ffs I just won’t stop! Well it does initially stop ex: braking is fine from 6th to 3rd but when downshifting in 2nd then 1st it just doesn’t brake at all it’s crazy !! Feels like brakes are overheating to the max but brake temperature isn’t existent until 21 right ?
Heyy...nice review... wanna ask u how to manage the controller I means accelerate button .. rear brake button.. front brake button... gear up ...gear button ..Which one the best way to hitt time.when your level is pro... Now use like accelerate is X.. front brake SQUARE... hw do u mannage the button controller..Thanks mate
Hey Robo46 thanks for all of your content! Can you do a video for some of us ”good” players that have been playing this series for years and are already pretty fast, but just want that extra edge? Can you share recommendations regarding setup and gear ratio? Thanks man! Love your channel
Hello are you using Xbox controller? If so how come you can modulate your braking I cannot even do that on mine its always on full brake every time i press on the front and rear. Is there a setting on how you can modulate braking?
Yo Robo, was this Video created before the physics Patch ? I finally arrived in MotoGP in career Mode but hell, i cannot handle those Bikes... Either I am stoppy-ing like hell (as soon as I Hit about 70% of pressure) or i have to break sooo early that everybody overtakes me, guess I need to practice way more and Turn down the ai Level :/
Very cool! But what s ur controller layout for this new special breakings? U got the rear also on top of controller? That s my most difficult part to master ^^
Thanks for the content, very interesting! I just got the game couple of days ago and started a career at motoGP 3, the MotoGP with big wheel are so different to drive, you really got to use that read break more (even more than I thought thanks to your video)! For Moto GP 3 I really didn't need more than a second or sometime a tap on rear brake. Fastest bike send you stoppie so easily ..! One thing making me curious tho, the run you do on the video is from a mode where you don't have the best bike available ? Cause I just tried MotoGP (instead of my career 3, full power beasts) on a time trial some hours ago and I did after a few learning and setting laps in time trial on that map you are running 1:28.5. I just took a Ducatti and tuned it progressively. I don't believe I can beat a veteran of this game with only a bit of Gran Turismo experience prior as sim racing. Do you know the reason I would score such a shorter time? Unless time trials have separate scores for the brand you are driving but that doesn't sound logical. Edit: Nvm, it was another track ahah; so many kind of look alike for a newcomer (yet I've seen some tracks used for car racing present in Gran turismo which is great stuff, I won't feel totally new there!). Anyway, great pedagogy and knowledge, ty. I'm subbing !
Here's the most important tip. Stick to MotoGP 19 because 20 is unsalvageable garbage. There's absolutely no reason to even try getting used to it. You can't because it's physics and even the way the controls function is BAD. The only thing you're achieving is getting angry and frustrated. Except of course if you're one of those guys who think that the more insane a game handles the more realistic it is. If you're one of those then you might as well go play NFS Heat.
I really struggle feeling the throttle, where i think i am applying say half throttle, it's already on full. The travel on the Xbox One triggers is narrower than you think. Also still struggling with back brake as A but don't really want to move the other controls around. Do you use A as rear brake Robo? Thanks for the video!
I don’t feel the bikes spin up to enough. All I want to do is light up the rear out of corners like stoner lol 😂 Also under hard braking on tight corners I move the bike left and right to slide the rear
I recently bough moto 19 for Xbox on a digital sale. Is there no ai crashes at all? Haven’t seen one yet but I have seen many in videos on MotoGP 20. That alone may force me to upgrade to the newer game sooner than I wanted to.
Just brought the game today since I'm starting to take interests in big bikes, Man! It's hard. I don't know if just I'm so used to GT Sport and F1 physics that my corners in this game is mostly a miss. Lmao. But yeah it's challenging but I'm still trying to get used to it. I love the satisfaction feeling earlier when I can finally got some consecutive smooth turns and smooth exit. I just hope that the AI can be very friendly. I'm playing on EASY mode since I'm a newbie but man the AI is insanely fast already especially in corners. 😅
Hi, i am new to the MotoGP community. I dont know how to made a good start in this MotoGP 2020 game. I always lose a lost of positions either with manual or auto start. Guys, how not to lose positions during the start phase? Thanks for the videos by the way, its really nice to watch them.
@@ROBO46 me too . I have the default buttons . I just made here 100 mistakes because i am new to this game and i am super confused . One final question man . If you are with full throttle in a big straight , when you decide to break for the next turn you break with both breaks ? I mean you break with A+LT together ? Or you use only front break ?
Thanks for this! One question: how do you balance downshifting and rear brake using the default control settings as it's difficult to do both at the same time?
It's a bit overwhelming at first but after a while it becomes muscle memory, u just gotta keep at it. Use the joint further up the thumb for rear braking and the tip of ur thumb for downshifting. Try to excercise downshifting with the tip of ur thumb while u keep the joint area fairly flat over the rear brake button. At this point you should be comfortable with operating ur throttle, front brake and steering. After that it's just about implementing these extra button sequences into ur normal riding, shouldn't take too long!
I don't know about the default setting but I swapped the rear brake and the rewind button since I don't use it and it becomes much easier. As arip said, it will become muscle memory even though it'll seem weird/hard at first
If you’re on PS4 change rear braking to “R1” and down shifting to “O”. I started using this button layout in motogp18, seriously helped me out so much.
Well I'm playing on a PC with my keyboard, I just finished moto2 season no problem at all but on motogp season I can't go through even the first corner without crashing. I'm playing on the keyboard as I said so I only have full throttle and full brakes... What controller would you recommend I get for the PC, there is no other way to play the game.
I’m assuming your talking about how easy the rear will slide out?? If so, my advice is just learn to be really smooth on throttle, mid corner especially, can’t just get on the gas super hard.
@@s_wggns I was doing that but the problem actually came from a faulty USB port on my PC connecting to the controller. I ended up switching the port and everything is back to normal and now easier to ride. I should have checked that in the first place.
so this is the problem when i use my keyboard instead of a controller. when i use a keyboard, the throttle and brakes is either 0% or 100%, it cant go halfway or else. well, i think i have to buy a controller to continue MotoGP class career. thanks Robo46, you helped me!
same here, just searching for a fkn controller on the internets lol ...I think its the best thing to do, just do what ever others are doing (in this case) ...you cant even drive moto2 with keyboard.
You know what would really help with this?
ANY kind of controller calibration options in game, maybe a sensitivity slider or options to adjust deadzones.
I agree, but I have just discovered that there are per game settings in steam for deep customization, including setting throttle curves.
There is one
KEVCRAFTI XBOX ONE no there isn’t. You can reassign controls or turn vibration on or off, that’s it! Pc version
Totally agree. The throttle seems to havs0% or 100% with no in-between!😤
@@luxorcephrenSE23 he is talking about deadzones, not your ability to control the triggers.
Man this gams is hard as hell but at the same time am having a lot of fun, the last time i played Moto GP was on the PS2 lol
@a s But its fun at the same time am getting used to it but it will take some time
@a s Me too those big boys are for later 😀 just go with motogp2 or 3 that's what i am doing they are way easy
Glad i’m not alone fellas 😂😂😂 had this been real life i’m 100% sure i’d be dead.
Just bought MotoGP 21 and it's exactly the same for me. Im falling down every 5 corners yet im having fun just because of the challenge.
I just bought motogp 21 and I’m finding it so hard too. Have you improved a lot in the 2 weeks since you commented?
Breaking in this game is so much more realistic. I find myself trail breaking like I do when I'm out on track. I like the fact that you can't just jam on the front brake. You can't do that on a real bike either.
Thats what Im trying to say to haha.. its true.. the physics of this game is realistic. Unlike MotoGP 19.. I always use the front break very hard but it wont life the rear wheel
Yeah i love it! This is what i was begging for for years. But cornering seems to suck in the new game or am i wrong? The rear slides too much
Yeah, I saw like 90 percent of the people crying about it, and saying that it is not realistic 😂
@@DonGH297 no
but on a real bike you can still steer if your rear tire is in the air.
1. Heavy braking, always have the bike with a bit of lean, will bring the rear around and moves the balance of the bike making stoppies less frequent
2. In the set-up,use smaller front disc's,will be easier to ride harder but will still need moderate amount of management
3. Power mapping is a good way to preserve rear Tyre Temps, biggest issue for rear loss of traction nearly always is overheating,keep your temp cool and your tyres will give you better performance
4. Most of the issues that people have with braking/acceleration can't be dialed out with set-up's,play around with them and you will make the bike suit your style of riding
Robo's tips are the fundamentals and should work for majority but the tips above are more niche tips that may help a small few
Good luck!
@Stephen Williams unfortunately no such thing as a good set-up, everyone's riding style is different, unlike other games, there's no one fix all set-up
Smaller discs worked for me.
After the season on Moto2 the MotoGP bikes feel like a dream.
I'm still on Moto 3!
I'm in moto2 but find the GP bikes more manageable in the daily challenges
@@colind5788 I found when I did a gp I annoyingly needed traction control on which I know isn't right for moto2, guess I just need more practice balancing the throttle
I am almost done with Moto3. So I tried Moto2. Uhmm oke was not expecting that😅
Recruiting for a clean racing league if your interested..?
Thank you for the advice on the breaking, I have a disability when limits my my dexterity using the PS4 controller. I've mapped the rear brake to the backward weight transfer (weight transfer doesn't work anyway its the wrong way round) on the steering and with a bit of practice I've improved my lap times no end, what a difference well chuffed thank you.
True! I instead flipped the weight transfer on my ps4 analog stick.. Should feel a lot more natural
I play on switch and cornering is so difficult as it's only digital triggers. Unfortunately times suffer a lot because of it. Great tips
I know this is a late reply, but yeah I'm just now checking this out on Switch. Helpful video!
I’m an absolute amateur at this game, the last time I played Max Biaggi was riding on a bike that’s now in the historic section and Rossi was at Repsol Honda I think 😂
Same here. :) Just got an Xbox one X same day as Motogp 20. One of my biggest problems is the last game I played the throttle was a button in the place gear change up is on Xbox controller. I keep going to get hard on throttle out of corners and end up going up 1 or 2 gears.
hahah :) time fly's
Two complaints about braking in motogp20: rear brake is too weak and front brake lacks feel. Hard to tell when you are going to lose grip. Aggressive braking is very risky.
Dusan Todorovic yeah it was better in 19. I fell a few times do to hard braking. Instead of the controller vibrating intensely when you’re about to lose grip, it vibrates the whole time and it’s hard to tell.
It's more realistic I'm still not used to it but started understanding it. IRL they never go fully to the max braking pressure so it's just to us to adapt
The rear brake on bikes are weak in real life. You'd only really use it at low speed, at the very entrance to a corner or mid corner to tighten your line
@@The-Randomest-Guy Not on Moto GP's
@@Random63R400 huh? definitely on motogp bikes. It's the same thing. Even more so. The weight is on the front for braking, there is no benefit to having a strong rear brake, it will just lock the wheel. Look up any motogp riders style, the front brake is used for actual braking. It's why they can dangle their leg off the bike before the corner. Obviously if the foot is off the bike, the rear brake isn't being used(apart from the few that use a thumb brake) . The rear brake is literally used to manage the way the bike squats and to tighten a line in cornering.
Okay,I have an idea for an advanced episode, "How to 500cc around tight tracks like Sachsenring with 'real' assists" those things are bloody murder machines and you cannot shortshift them because their powerband is so small.
Damn, Unrideables. If they made an esport category for them, there you'd truely see who has the best throttle control.
It's taken me a while but I'm pretty settled into my play style now. I ride for a bit, crash, ride for a bit crash. I am shite at tarmac motorcycle games but I never let them beat me. I will take your lessons to the track and probably crash, not because of your hints/tips but because my brain is small and filled with knowledge of racing on four wheels and wrapped up in a cage.
Anyway fresh Sub here.
If the physics are realistic, my advice is to try and be on the throttle for the majority of the corner to get the bike to turn, feathering it while at full lean. Try and get all your braking done before the apex. More weight on the front will increase the contact patch size on the tyre and decrease it's turning efficiency. You will run wide and struggle to hit the apex by trail braking too far. Look up the A Twist of the Wrist videos for more detail on bike dynamics. This is one of those counter intuitive quirks of riding a motorcycle.
Agreed, Twist of the wrist is where its at! However, while this game is awesome , real life physics of the motorcycle do not apply as much as I would prefer. Close, but the throttle control and weight shift as you mentioned are missing.
@@the_hza I haven't played it but it looks like there might be a slight penalty to turn when under braking. I haven't really liked the Milestone games that much. Ride 2 didn't do it for me. I lost interest after tourist trophy, motogp3 and sbk 08.
Bikes turn best when slight trail braking though. Just a tad.
Enable english captions on this video guys it's hilarious. And see what is writes between 5 and 15 seconds haha.
TH-cam always throws up hilarious subtitles 😂
When you can't beat your own record you know its good
Thanks robo just what I needed as nobody really explained this before. Have asked in a few vids about bike setup settings too. As always superb content
Hi, Thanks for this video. I picked up this game a week ago...Usually play and get the Platinum trophy each year, but I have troubles with this game so far. Hope someone can advise on the following...At this moment getting used to the braking is very frustrating. Although I support the idea of this braking mechanism being more realistic, I think Milestone really failed implementing it well here, they should have implemented that the controller vibrates when braking to hard, just like in de F1 games in which you feel when the brakes are about to lockup... I struggle with the acceleration too, especially with the 500cc bikes. They wheelie all the time exiting slow corners, throttle seems to feel binary (on/off). Also the sound is very bad (useless) when you apply a little throttle, the sound is just less loud, the rpm progression of the bike sounds unreal and badly mapped to the PS4 R2 button/trigger. All tips/help are welcome and appreciated!
I use keyboard for this game, and on my experience if I keep both the front and rear brake on when braking into a corner, the braking feels less powerful compared to when I'm just using my front brake
I do feel better in late braking when im using my front brake with a little bit of rear brake as soon as I need to brake, and then just rely on the front brake to help me slow down and turn. Using too much rear brake may affects your bike ability to accelerate out of a corner later on (sliding too much)
How in the world do you play this with keyboard?
@@minimumwrist3546 you have no idea how hard it is, but it's doable. not good for multiplayer though.
@@aldoalv1ano I would imagine lots of tapping gas and brakes. Go snag you a 20 dollar wired xbox controller it will change your life.
yes a lot of quick tapping and it hurts my fingers!! definitely gonna buy a wireless controller one day. ive been buying a lot of useless games on steam so that's why im still stuck with keyboard
On MotoGP 19 I was unbeaten on Losail with my Suzuki setup (literally like 15 on wins in a row on Losail), playing GP 20 feels so different, only won 5 races online since I started playing last week, still getting used to, I've still got the braking muscle memory from MotoGP 19 so I end up losing the front more often than not
I just got the game. I finished moto3 and 2. I was cornering with no problem and making the bike do what I wanted. I get into GP.... I can't make a single corner without falling. Even at the slowest speed trying to make those tight corners the bike falls. If I go any faster the bike wants to see need steer and make really wide turns and also not slow down
I am not sure how to set the bike up for it to stop. I'm currently in the Austin track trying to make something happen.
Leandro Vereda just play on a easier setting to get used to motogp
Oh gosh, I actually forgot to thank you here for the information. I actually use the short-shifting quite often. ^-^ Though going in a bit too deep in corners to prepare a run is something I actually used for a while, the thing you said about the hairpin corners. It is not only for them, sometimes, many times in a race you can use that strategy to get pass some riders (even more in MotoGP20 than in the earlier games). :D But true as it is. I love to let more speed in the bike for the corners, then accelerate faster as well, because of Aprilia. Although I am not having an aggressive riding style in the way usually people are, I mainly pass people like that, but that means I am at least 3 tenths faster in that sector than the racer in front of me, or just a lot faster out of that specific corner. :D
Everyone with their own riding style really. :) But this tutorial is actually good, and really clear.
I would like to see a video on how you tune the bikes for each class
What about weight shifting? On motoGP 19 you can push forward and back on the left stick.
If you tuck in it actually sits up? So thats a bit wierd.
Pushing forward on the brakes will make you stoppie though so does have an effect.
Maybe can shorten braking zone? but can only really use in a straight line as its on the steering stick.
Hi Robo! Could you please make tutorial for gear shifting? I've got like 70h+ on motogp 19 and now I'm playing lot a of motogp20 but I've never shifting manually. Some tips would be nice! :)
AXK shifting manually will improve your speed but, better, game will get much more fun. Once you get it, you’ll never go automatic again, for sure
Just try it. Hop into time trial and and just do laps. You will fail at first shifting to late and hitting the rev-limiter or messing up braking zone cause you are shifting too fast or too slow, but at some point you will find out what gears to use through which corners and how fast you can downshift without unsettling the bike.
The great thing is, once you learned it on one game, you can use it on any game.
AXK it is gear setup and bike dependent (plus corner) but it is all by ear tbh.
AXK manual gears just comes down to practice, once you get the hang of it it will become second nature and you won’t have to think about it too much
I learn shifting in f1 games and it really help improve my lap times. And it wasn't that hard, but on gamepad its something different... i'll try my best to learn shifting on motogp games. But thanks for respond all of you guys!
Good tutorial Robo thanks! One thing I found that helps with keeping the rear down a little bit under braking is using the smaller front brake disc. Idk if it is just placebo but it seemed to help me a bit. Have not tried it on the GP bikes yet, but it seems to be helping in my current Moto2 career. Cheers!
Yea, but you're a bit slowly with that
Haha Haha!! You beat me too it Robo. Still going g to upload my tut, as I have a diff take/approach but i learnt something from you, about the rear locking with engine breaking...so thanks, and I need to take another look at that section :-)
Top vid.
Haha thanks mate!!! Yeah like I said in the video everyone has different play styles so the more different technique tutorials out there the better 👍 glad you learnt something though!
Well done! Way to beat that personal record!!! Wicked fast on that hot lap 🔥
I don't now if you say that cause I'm french and don't understand all, but for me, I touch just half second the rear brake, and after the front brake at 90/95%, and dégressive brake until to apex corner
Try to brake hard on front first and the bike start to lift the rear brake hard with the rear and flow with the corner because the bike corner much better with the rear breaks , so make sense to me to real last with the rear for better flow cornering
Great tutorial Robo - Those who have ridden a motorcycle on the road or track will understand the importance of the rear brake & how its used for corner entry (BTW Simon Crafar has posted an excellent tutorial via MotoVudu on rear braking)...Looks like MotoGP mirrors real world physics pretty well...
It doesn't mirror real physics lmao
I understand everyone should develop a riding style of their own but, How about a tutorial on suspension or is that a trade secret ??
you need to learn that & gearing setting for each track.... I dropped 10sec once I got my bike dialed in for each seconds
No that,s personal find out what you like.
@Stephen Williams yup, I'm not asking for anybody's bank details & realise whatever they post will never be tailor made for me ffs but what I'd like is at least an explanation of what does what !! Unless you've played this series for more than 2 seasons (like me) your in the dark, this is we're the learning curve is too steep.. theres obviously some niche inside info somewhere because how comes the Esport guys got so good so quickly, Vale reckons he learn't the game in a few weeks, bullshit ??
@@hoodedcobra1531 dude I've had motorbikes for years, ex car mechanic, & tuning since the days of Geoff Cramond but what I'm saying is you can't excell at anything without a baseline initial understanding !!!
For anyone struggling with braking on ps4 with the gp bikes, I found a cheap 3rd party control pad from a shop that rhymes with wee and phlegm was a lot better under braking as the triggers have more resistance. Far easier to hold at 60-70% than the sony pad which maxes the brakes out too soon and has flimsy triggers. Won't make you crash proof but without it i wouldn't even play the game at all.
I just bought this game.. man.. breaking is hard.. I mean, with the autobreaking it is a wall in the park.. but when it comes to more realistic riding, it is tough as hell.. tks for your vid!
When you say breaking is hard, do you mean it's hard to suffer a mechanical failure?
@@schumifan78 I mean regard all the mechanics behind it... i already improved in the last days.. but is still hard to make the corners entrances hard.. i.e, I keep crashing and going straight into the sand/grass...
Great tips, just subscribed. I have watched a lot of ur 19 and now 20 videos. Keep up the great the content.
When playing with keyboard you have to release and break again all the time. I have no chance to use a break only half way or whatever and that makes the break physics still worse
I would never suggest keyboard for motogp20
@COVID who said its my only option? I just prefer it because im a pc only player and still have some page 1 times on some tracks with time attack...
rear brake doesn't really have much effect I think... I feel like you cabt really feel it or see it really working like it should. what I do is lightly pull it in and feather the front brake with tapping the rear brake button and then roll on the gas thru the corners and open it up while I'm starting to exit the turn
On the intro at 0:02 , what’s the game shown bottom right corner??
I started a career done moto 3 and moto 2 but soon as I got into MotoGP I don’t even want to use the brakes the bike just slides and falls round corners I really hate it I literally go round corners like a snail now and I just hestitate too much because this brake system is whack
What is the best setup for button configuration? I struggle with front and rear brake setup but now I use square fpr the front brake and triangle for the rear. Dissadvantage of this buttons are locking, because I cant regulate the pressure of bitton so I nees to tap them.
I just can't get my head around it. Is there a setting that would help with the wheelies? I am not looking for a simulation experience, just some fun.
then it's not a game for you, since it tries to simulate as much as possible, but you can try to use joint brakes and high traction control
Anti wheelie at max or exiting corners use weight forward , gentle acceleration , those kinds of actions help
Can you push the front down with the left stick to reduce wheelies?
How do you stop wheelies, I’m in moto2 with AW upgraded and on 4 and the wheel constantly lifts, you go so slowly and until you hit 100mph it goes down! Stupid
MoToToM Same here. But it was much better when I upgraded AW 2. After AW 1 upgrade it was the same.
Oskar Wilde mine is still bad after AW2 I did the Argentinian gp and it was fine but then at Jerez it went back to being bad
MoToToM Then i think its a bug. I believe there are many bugs in the physics in this game.
For example i have big problem in MotoGP now. I have Ducati. I’m pretty good in braking in this game. Fully understand the braking mechanics. Always braking 70-80% BUT.. One lap, braking is perfect and next lap in this same spot my rear wheel goes up right away. And braking is same maybe less %. It doesnt make any sense! And next lap again everything Is fine.
I've tried this before, and I can go around the corner perfectly but looking at the replay, the AI seems to come at full throttle. At losail, I get so annoyed because I'm almost lifting the back wheel, breaking as hard and as late as possible and the AI is still able to shorten the distance by 100m, sometimes more. and this is at 100%.
I thought it was just me that notice that and the AI is ridiculous with it. I'm taking those corners 150 and the AI is taking the corners going 300. I'm like what the fuck. Smh.
how do you do that half throtling? only auto brake options have that feat.
Real problem with the braking if you still using ps 2 controller just like me , you cant half press the brake button neither throttle button for me you just have to get feel for it
I went straight @ carrer mode and signed with aprilia so haven’t even tried any other bikes yet , I don’t know if it’s the bike but ffs I just won’t stop! Well it does initially stop ex: braking is fine from 6th to 3rd but when downshifting in 2nd then 1st it just doesn’t brake at all it’s crazy !! Feels like brakes are overheating to the max but brake temperature isn’t existent until 21 right ?
Heyy...nice review... wanna ask u how to manage the controller I means accelerate button .. rear brake button.. front brake button... gear up ...gear button ..Which one the best way to hitt time.when your level is pro...
Now use like accelerate is X.. front brake SQUARE... hw do u mannage the button controller..Thanks mate
Hey Robo46 thanks for all of your content! Can you do a video for some of us ”good” players that have been playing this series for years and are already pretty fast, but just want that extra edge? Can you share recommendations regarding setup and gear ratio? Thanks man! Love your channel
How do you combat wheelie issues? How do you arrange 1st and 2nd gear?
How do you use your rear brake?
Can you explain what all the different things represent in the icon with the speed and traction etc.
Hello are you using Xbox controller? If so how come you can modulate your braking I cannot even do that on mine its always on full brake every time i press on the front and rear. Is there a setting on how you can modulate braking?
Rear wheel locks up? So the new bikes doesn't have slipper clutch?
Still don't get it how you can break so late on first corner. I have to start breaking when the green paint starts and still barely make it.
First time watch this video : YOU'RE LUCKY NOT PLAYING USING KEYBOARD
After bought controller : fuck how this man is so good
😂😂
How do you race without racing lines?, also what bike setups do you use ?
I thought the best way to take a corner is to hit the apex. Does this only apply to 4 wheels?
Yo Robo, was this Video created before the physics Patch ? I finally arrived in MotoGP in career Mode but hell, i cannot handle those Bikes... Either I am stoppy-ing like hell (as soon as I Hit about 70% of pressure) or i have to break sooo early that everybody overtakes me, guess I need to practice way more and Turn down the ai Level :/
Patches have come out since this video however this braking technique is still relevant and still works
How come on PS4 braking does not have any effect even you squeeze the triggers?
Very cool!
But what s ur controller layout for this new special breakings?
U got the rear also on top of controller?
That s my most difficult part to master ^^
No I use default controls
Thanks for the content, very interesting! I just got the game couple of days ago and started a career at motoGP 3, the MotoGP with big wheel are so different to drive, you really got to use that read break more (even more than I thought thanks to your video)! For Moto GP 3 I really didn't need more than a second or sometime a tap on rear brake. Fastest bike send you stoppie so easily ..!
One thing making me curious tho, the run you do on the video is from a mode where you don't have the best bike available ? Cause I just tried MotoGP (instead of my career 3, full power beasts) on a time trial some hours ago and I did after a few learning and setting laps in time trial on that map you are running 1:28.5. I just took a Ducatti and tuned it progressively.
I don't believe I can beat a veteran of this game with only a bit of Gran Turismo experience prior as sim racing. Do you know the reason I would score such a shorter time? Unless time trials have separate scores for the brand you are driving but that doesn't sound logical.
Edit: Nvm, it was another track ahah; so many kind of look alike for a newcomer (yet I've seen some tracks used for car racing present in Gran turismo which is great stuff, I won't feel totally new there!).
Anyway, great pedagogy and knowledge, ty. I'm subbing !
Here's the most important tip. Stick to MotoGP 19 because 20 is unsalvageable garbage. There's absolutely no reason to even try getting used to it. You can't because it's physics and even the way the controls function is BAD. The only thing you're achieving is getting angry and frustrated. Except of course if you're one of those guys who think that the more insane a game handles the more realistic it is. If you're one of those then you might as well go play NFS Heat.
Do you shift your weight forwards and backwards?
I really struggle feeling the throttle, where i think i am applying say half throttle, it's already on full. The travel on the Xbox One triggers is narrower than you think. Also still struggling with back brake as A but don't really want to move the other controls around. Do you use A as rear brake Robo? Thanks for the video!
Yes I use “A” as the rear brake
@@ROBO46 thanks Robo
I don’t feel the bikes spin up to enough. All I want to do is light up the rear out of corners like stoner lol 😂
Also under hard braking on tight corners I move the bike left and right to slide the rear
Tourist Trophy was great for that.
I recently bough moto 19 for Xbox on a digital sale. Is there no ai crashes at all? Haven’t seen one yet but I have seen many in videos on MotoGP 20. That alone may force me to upgrade to the newer game sooner than I wanted to.
Thanks Robbo, this has helped me already in practice laps 👊🏾
Just brought the game today since I'm starting to take interests in big bikes, Man! It's hard. I don't know if just I'm so used to GT Sport and F1 physics that my corners in this game is mostly a miss. Lmao. But yeah it's challenging but I'm still trying to get used to it. I love the satisfaction feeling earlier when I can finally got some consecutive smooth turns and smooth exit. I just hope that the AI can be very friendly. I'm playing on EASY mode since I'm a newbie but man the AI is insanely fast already especially in corners. 😅
is there a way to prevent my bike in the game to prevent wheelies every time I exit corners?
For some reason I can't switch off automatic brakes.
I've been trying to figure out what to do with weight forward or backward. Would either of those help with stopping faster?
i feel like it weight backwards doesnt wobble the bike while accelerating on a tight corner exit
Hi, i am new to the MotoGP community. I dont know how to made a good start in this MotoGP 2020 game. I always lose a lost of positions either with manual or auto start. Guys, how not to lose positions during the start phase? Thanks for the videos by the way, its really nice to watch them.
Try changing up to second when the bike starts to wheelie and also weave slightly to keep the front end down
I can't thank you enough for this video, I can finally play the game!!!
How about setups? Do we really need to ?
I have trigger stops on my controller and it helps me not use the full brake!
Many player braking with push release technique
Can you explain this technique?
@@fredrock91 u know its like tap tap the LT 😂
@@fredrock91 i mean, that technic is not good for braking.
Imagine this game with this amazing graphics and sound and motogp immersion weekend with.....gp bikes physics and control....utopia?
Can you do a tuning tutorial?
Can you share your gear ratio and suspension?
I never go to mugello over 340km/h but you just hit 350km/h
Can you do a braking one for a wet race, i keep going down in to the corner
I love.it.. i have motogp 19 no mater how hard I break on front. It won't life the rear wheel
What controller did you use?
Can you do one on historical ? Bikes always want to wheelie
guys you have to use the rear and the front break together ? I use only RT in xbox controller which is i think only the rear brake . Is this wrong ?
RT as default is the throttle
@@ROBO46 sorry i meant LT . Is it wrong to use only LT ? I have to use also the front break ?
I use LT as the front brake and the A button as the rear brake
@@ROBO46 me too . I have the default buttons . I just made here 100 mistakes because i am new to this game and i am super confused . One final question man . If you are with full throttle in a big straight , when you decide to break for the next turn you break with both breaks ? I mean you break with A+LT together ? Or you use only front break ?
When I break into the corner it squirrels alot
Finally ! Thx for the tutorial !
Thanks for this! One question: how do you balance downshifting and rear brake using the default control settings as it's difficult to do both at the same time?
It's a bit overwhelming at first but after a while it becomes muscle memory, u just gotta keep at it. Use the joint further up the thumb for rear braking and the tip of ur thumb for downshifting.
Try to excercise downshifting with the tip of ur thumb while u keep the joint area fairly flat over the rear brake button. At this point you should be comfortable with operating ur throttle, front brake and steering. After that it's just about implementing these extra button sequences into ur normal riding, shouldn't take too long!
I don't know about the default setting but I swapped the rear brake and the rewind button since I don't use it and it becomes much easier. As arip said, it will become muscle memory even though it'll seem weird/hard at first
Just hold the rear brake with the middle knuckle of your thumb and downshift with the end of it
If you’re on PS4 change rear braking to “R1” and down shifting to “O”. I started using this button layout in motogp18, seriously helped me out so much.
Thaaaaank you! I almost wanted to ask you if you could bring us a Tips&Tricks Episode. So cool.
I can't even find where to turn off the racing line and auto brakes.
You can turn it off at riding aids.
Well I'm playing on a PC with my keyboard, I just finished moto2 season no problem at all but on motogp season I can't go through even the first corner without crashing. I'm playing on the keyboard as I said so I only have full throttle and full brakes... What controller would you recommend I get for the PC, there is no other way to play the game.
I would suggest an Xbox controller 👍
I bought PS4, its great. I win 120% difficulty in moto3, now I'm learning MotoGP
Recommended settings for Moto2 bike? Can’t ride the thing!
I don't know if anyone can. The Moto2 bike is so frustrating.
I’m assuming your talking about how easy the rear will slide out?? If so, my advice is just learn to be really smooth on throttle, mid corner especially, can’t just get on the gas super hard.
@@s_wggns I was doing that but the problem actually came from a faulty USB port on my PC connecting to the controller. I ended up switching the port and everything is back to normal and now easier to ride. I should have checked that in the first place.
Do you watch the moto2 and 3 classes on tv or just MotoGP?
I watch all 3
Can anyone tell me where I can set auto break off because I don't push the button and it breaks at a yellow zone
It will be in the settings mate before you start a round
@@ROBO46 where exactly because I looked there but couldn't find it
how do you turn off auto braking?
In the settings
Can anyone reply how to turn off auto brake please??
Pray for me I just bought this game and play it for 1 day and the worst is I use a KEYBOARD and its very difficult to brake haha.
Just what I needed! lol just had problems breaking
What botton is the rear brake?
A on xbox and X on ps4
Didn't know it was a video game. Had trouble finding a b x y buttons on my motorcycle.
Hey robo can you share gear ratio and suspension setting? @robo46
so this is the problem when i use my keyboard instead of a controller. when i use a keyboard, the throttle and brakes is either 0% or 100%, it cant go halfway or else. well, i think i have to buy a controller to continue MotoGP class career. thanks Robo46, you helped me!
same here, just searching for a fkn controller on the internets lol ...I think its the best thing to do, just do what ever others are doing (in this case) ...you cant even drive moto2 with keyboard.
Why do I keep falling though