I am a huge fan of threaded inserts. I always use the type with the hex drive on top. Very easy to use. I use an allen wrench to insert by hand, or a hex bit in my drill driver. Much better than using wood screws.
No concerns about the base and top having different coefficients of expansion? I'm constructing a similar table but with a redwood top and 1/4" aluminum plate on the base. My plan is to create countersunk slots in an aluminum sheet, then put the screws through the slots into inserts in the wood. This way as the wood expands and contracts, the screws can move along the slots. I'm not sure what the best orientation is, but I'm leaning towards a radial arrangement. Is my plan a waste of time and I could just get away with screw holes straight through the plate into inserts?
You bring up a great point about the expansion on the work through the seasons. I have definitely noticed this on the wood itself, However there has been no issues between the base and the table top.
Good video! This will be my first time using thread inserts. The problem is the oak board is only 3/4 inch thick. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
There are a few different types of threaded inserts out there. some come with a "shoulder" that sits flat on the wood surface. these styles might not go as deep as you will have some issues with the thickness of your board.
@@JDCDDesgins: YES! It worked perfectly the first time. I studied your video a couple more times, and thanks to you, perfection. Thank you again. Time to start on my next table.
The manual installation is always best as you have control on the progress of the insert into the wood. Did you notice how the drill installation split the wood?
Thank you for sharing, but I'm afraid that the slot is what cuts the wood, it is not supposed to be facing up... so method two is close to being right, but you need to reverse the insert. Method one is exactly what one should not be doing.
Evangelos Himonides I understand what you mean, acts like the groves in a self taping bolt. But everywhere I've seen they have the slot facing up. There's a special bit you can buy that is designed to fit in these slots then placed into your drill. Regardless what way they are installed there still going to do there job! Also with having the slot up you can remove the insert with a flat blade screwdriver later on down the road if desired. Not saying your wrong, just giving my opinion on it. Thanks!
JDCD Design yeap, exactly... I have been doing it exactly as yourself for years, until I saw a video by Roland Walters, who uses a threaded rod and locks it in place with double nuts, and had a revelation moment... obviously, this is not brain surgery, and no harm is done, but I was glad to come across it... keep well, and many thanks for sharing!
The slots are NOT for cutting. E-Z Loc’s recommended drill size for this 5/16” inch insert is 1/64” LARGER than the outside diameter of the barrel of the insert. The slots do not extend beyond the barrel of the insert, and will be going into a hole that is WIDER than the barrel. How exactly will they be cutting any material in that hole? The slots are for insertion tools, which is why there are insertion tools specifically designed to fit into those slots. The tools don’t work when the slots go in the hole first.
I could only stand 20 seconds of that bloody music. Not everyone likes the same music as you, use it sparingly and turn the volume down so it's in the background, it should enhance your video not define it.
Excellent lesson in threaded inserts... Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
- V E R Y good, useful info. Thanx 4 sharing. Your table is also R E A L L Y nicely done.
Thanks so much!
I am a huge fan of threaded inserts. I always use the type with the hex drive on top. Very easy to use. I use an allen wrench to insert by hand, or a hex bit in my drill driver. Much better than using wood screws.
I have recently switched to the hex drive style. They are a lot easier to instal with a cleaner look.
No concerns about the base and top having different coefficients of expansion? I'm constructing a similar table but with a redwood top and 1/4" aluminum plate on the base. My plan is to create countersunk slots in an aluminum sheet, then put the screws through the slots into inserts in the wood. This way as the wood expands and contracts, the screws can move along the slots. I'm not sure what the best orientation is, but I'm leaning towards a radial arrangement. Is my plan a waste of time and I could just get away with screw holes straight through the plate into inserts?
You bring up a great point about the expansion on the work through the seasons. I have definitely noticed this on the wood itself, However there has been no issues between the base and the table top.
Good video! This will be my first time using thread inserts. The problem is the oak board is only 3/4 inch thick. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
There are a few different types of threaded inserts out there. some come with a "shoulder" that sits flat on the wood surface. these styles might not go as deep as you will have some issues with the thickness of your board.
@@JDCDDesgins: YES! It worked perfectly the first time. I studied your video a couple more times, and thanks to you, perfection. Thank you again. Time to start on my next table.
The manual installation is always best as you have control on the progress of the insert into the wood. Did you notice how the drill installation split the wood?
its always nice doing thing by hand as you can physically feel the action. I would agree with you there.
I do it in the same way :) thumbs up!
Hi, what size insert nut for thickness of wood are you using?
Appreciate the guidance !
Hey quick question...where did you get the table legs?
I actually received these from a friend. They were from a old table or speaker stand they were throwing out, so i put them back to use.
JDCD Design - Nice! I’m working on a similar project and was digging that stand.
Appreciate the top!
what type of drill bit did you use to drill the holes for the thread inserts? is that a forstner bit?
your correct! A regular drill bit works as well but i find you get cleaner holes with the forstner bit/ also get flat bottomed holes.
thanks
What brand of drill bit did you use for this project. It looks like a cleaner hole than most Forstner bits. Nice work.
The music sounds like something from VRC....
This time I will do it manually with the help of Woodglut designs.
Woodprix is nice for that.
Thank you for sharing, but I'm afraid that the slot is what cuts the wood, it is not supposed to be facing up... so method two is close to being right, but you need to reverse the insert. Method one is exactly what one should not be doing.
Evangelos Himonides I understand what you mean, acts like the groves in a self taping bolt. But everywhere I've seen they have the slot facing up. There's a special bit you can buy that is designed to fit in these slots then placed into your drill. Regardless what way they are installed there still going to do there job! Also with having the slot up you can remove the insert with a flat blade screwdriver later on down the road if desired. Not saying your wrong, just giving my opinion on it. Thanks!
JDCD Design yeap, exactly... I have been doing it exactly as yourself for years, until I saw a video by Roland Walters, who uses a threaded rod and locks it in place with double nuts, and had a revelation moment... obviously, this is not brain surgery, and no harm is done, but I was glad to come across it... keep well, and many thanks for sharing!
Evangelos Himonides Thanks! I appreciate the comment! It's always good hearing new ways and styles of doing things.
JDCD Design thank you for sharing your content with the community! And apologies, I meant to say 'Ronald'. Best wishes, Evangelos
th-cam.com/video/wifYMPWB1IE/w-d-xo.html slot facing up...done by supplier.
You are putting the insert in upside down - that is not a screwdriver slot - it is the cutting edge.
The slots are NOT for cutting. E-Z Loc’s recommended drill size for this 5/16” inch insert is 1/64” LARGER than the outside diameter of the barrel of the insert. The slots do not extend beyond the barrel of the insert, and will be going into a hole that is WIDER than the barrel. How exactly will they be cutting any material in that hole?
The slots are for insertion tools, which is why there are insertion tools specifically designed to fit into those slots. The tools don’t work when the slots go in the hole first.
I could only stand 20 seconds of that bloody music.
Not everyone likes the same music as you, use it sparingly and turn the volume down so it's in the background, it should enhance your video not define it.
Thanks for the input. I'm always looking for input to make the videos more enjoyable.