When Heather was talking about how declining celebrities go on a "therapy tour" to help justify their past asshole behavior, all I could think about was Chelsea Handler
Huh! I used to be a huge Chelsea fan here in Australia. I flew twice to the other end of the country, & it’s a BIG country to go to taping both times the show came here. Chelsea definitely changed over time & I have to say during that last year I’m not even sure I liked her. Then I heard there was some drama with Heather but didn’t take the time to find out what that was about. I tried watching her next show but I didn’t find her as funny, her guests as interesting & she got quite political and I have no interest in American politics. I immediately thought of Meghan Markle. Some say she was lovely up until the second season of Suits when she became a diva - no capital d. Others say she displayed narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies- depends which psychiatrist is commenting. I love that there’s a group of psychologists who have a TH-cam channel now and put up funny clips. Another one I thought of was Oprah. Again, I had been a huge fan for many years until she started inserting herself into another family’s lives and as a consequence not only cause them great emotional pain but threatens the form of government of about 19 countries. Imagine if someone outside of America- Putin for example, did that there. Oprah is probably the most dangerous. She seems to have forgotten all those old white people she wants dead are the ones who gave her the opportunities to be where she was before she disgraced herself.
@@michelegraham9044 So you dislike great people? Meghan and Oprah are not narcissists at all. You need to be very careful before you hand your soul over to misogyny. Women get these reputations for standing up for themselves. Meanwhile you don't hear this stuff about men because they are considered to have a 'right' to speak up (those who are mistreated but most are not treated the same way). Really look at what they are responding to. There is no such thing as a 'diva' that's just another way of putting women down. Meghan hasn't done anything wrong at all but the revolting British press over here vilify her because the royal family (the business, not the actual family) want her. It's interesting you dislike women who stand up to misogyny. I like Chelsea. I get that she wasn't very nice to some people but clearly she has grown up a bit.
I absolutely believe Kathy said that. Anyone who thinks she didn’t just bc she pretends to be dumb on tv 😂 you fell for it. Kathy is just like her mother.
I think Lisa Rinna added to what Kathy may have said, and really exaggerated the incident to make Kathy look as bad as possible. I’m not saying Kathy didn’t behave terribly and say some horrible things. Just saying that Lisa Rinna’s version of the story should not be trusted as being 100% accurate.
@@LeaveAhNah nobody’s blindly believing it. There’s a pretty good history of rumors of Kathy always acting this way and she’s also a rich entitled woman form Beverly Hills 😂 it’s also possible for Rinna and Kathy to both be nasty people
Rina have s over dramatic and lies a lot. She definitely inflated whatever happen. It’s so ridiculous after her own behavior over the years. There’s no recordings so you can’t believe anything definitely unless you fall for everything you hear.
I do believe Kathy is capable to say something like that, but I have a hard time believing anything Rinna says, so until I hear audio I believe nothing
When has Rinna lied though? The only thing that I can think of is the "Kim is close to death" comment which was not that far off... a few months later Kim was cracked out and shoplifting in a Target...
Pretty sure RInna talked to Kyle about this before "sparking trouble." If Rinna was texting Erika during the incident, I dont see why she wouldn't have texted or called Kyle ASAP as well. I think Kyle told her it's ok to bring on the show because Kathy has been horrible to Kyle in the past, which is understandable. But Rinna was foolish to get herself involved in the drama because ultimately Kyle is always going to take her sister's side and leave Rinna out in the cold. Rinna exposed LVP for orchestrating the Yolanda fake sickness storyline at another reunion....so hopefully Rinna exposes Kyle and Kathy in this reunion and leave it in the edit.
I don’t believe much of what lisa says. She just wants the heat off of erika they are protecting each other for some reason. Im sure kathy said something to kyle for bullying her about her clothes and sabotaging her tequila tasting but that is well deserved. Kyle is horrible to her. Kathy signs her rights away when she signed that contract bravo is not going to cut anything
I don’t think Kathy signed away anything to return. Bravo needed Kathy way more than she needed them. She took advantage of her immense first season popularity and played hardball to return. That’s why she missed several episodes. When Kathy threw a temper tantrum in Aspen, I think Bravo thought they had the upper hand - they weren’t pleased about given in so much on contract negotiations and this bad behavior would knock Kathy down a peg or two. Bravo has built this season around the post-Aspen blow up and featured it heavily in the season trailers. But Bravo didn’t anticipate that Rinna would be immensely unpopular at this point in the season so Kathy has been able to play from a power position again. Bravo unexpectedly paused the show a week and, as Heather says, has supposedly been re-editing the remaining episodes. Kathy and her legal team will never let us know what really happened.
Meghan openly expressed to several persons that she should have been paid for the Royal Tour in Australia 2018 that she did with Harry after their wedding🙄 That and the information about how she wanted to be a UK Beyoncé was released just before their Oprah interview and is now being published in the book "Courtiers" by Valentine Low. Low and Tom Bowers are both established journalists that can back up everything they wrote about in their books. Btw, the annual allowance Harry & Megs received was £5 Million (=$6.9 Million) so she was "paid" alright :) Thank you for another great show!🌷🌷🌷🌷
@Therese Wow, what a load from just another Meaghan hater. Harry wanted to leave for decades before he even met MM. His mother’s death and the way the Firm handled it was always the true catalyst. Not to mention that he was only “the spare.” Get over it.
@@randyholloway920 It's actually true and you will know it because Harry & Megs (who looooves suing media) has not been able to sue neither Tom Bowers nor Valentine Low. Why? Because their publishings are accurate and they have the receipts to prove it.
@@theresenydahl9531 you are absolutely correct, they are nothing but liars and now they have been proven to be liars. Tom Bowers has never been sued successfully,now lets stand by and see it if Megan and Harry will sue him.They are nothing but money hungry children. They need to go back to America and Americans don’t want them either. Nobody does, because of the lies it’s been proven. And if he wanted to leave he was a grown man why couldn’t he. Was he not man enough to do it on a his own he needed a woman to do it for him. They are nothing but cry babies.Everybody knows the lies they told on Oprah.what was it 17 of them.
The Megan story reminded me about Heather Mills (ex McCartney). She claimed to not know who Paul McCartney was. She said when they were dating he was playing 'Hey Jude' (or some popular Beatles song) on the piano and she said, 'that's lovely, you should write that down!' Yeah. OK Heather Mills.
Lord have mercy. I am no stan of the Hiltons…but Heather’s take on this is baffling. How the heck is Kathy jealous of Kyle? She has more money, her daughters are more popular and successful, and Kathy is more liked on the show than Kyle. Plus, I think she is being paid very well for being just a ‘friend of’…so much that it made Rinna mad. Kathy was just upset by how the ladies, esp Kyle, were treating her on the trip. Esp on camera. Kyle couldn’t stop making fun of her. Even Mauricio talked condescendingly to her. (And after the BS he pulled on her husband, given that I’m sure Rick opened many doors for Mauricio, it makes his behaviour less palpable.) So Kathy prob was pushed to her limit and blew up. Doesn’t mean she was pounding on walls and stomping on her glasses. Doesn’t mean she was dropping the f and n words…which nobody but Rinna supposedly heard (in different places, depending on the version Rinna is telling) . Rinna is over-exaggerating, if not outright lying. She lied about Kim. She lied about Denise. She lied about LVP. This is what she does. Kyle bashes her sisters on camera. That is what she does. There wouldn’t have been a RHoBH if Kyle couldn’t get Kim to join. She did, then Kyle repaid her by outing and destroying her on camera.
U think Kathy has more money because she’s a Hilton but that’s not necessarily true. Mauricio has far surpassed Kathy’s husband real estate company. The Hilton that created the empire left most of his money to charity. Kathy has not gotten any real fame on her own until this show. Kyle didn’t marry for money and now she has it all and maybe Kathy is jealous of that. Plus Kyle’s kids seem like good kids, Kathy’s kids have definitely have had more problems.
It sounds like a bunch of BS that a lawyer was able to send a bunch of strangers at a club a cease and desist. I mean, does the club keep a copy of everyone's name and address that comes in every night and the club would just hand them over to a lawyer? That sounds very far fetched to me. My guess is Kathy freaked out but the only person who is spreading the rumors about her using a slur is Rinna. No one else is saying that. And Rinna is not a credible person at all.
Heather, you need to learn a little bit about NPD and how narcissists work ; big and Little Kathies both suffer from NPD, in my opinion. The other girls avoided full blown NPD, tho their narcissistic traits are very high (that was trained into them). Kathy’s response to the neglectful childhood with a lack of control environment and lack of emotional validation was to develop NPD herself, stop having empathy for others and lose any sense of a personal identity outside of looks accomplishments money, etc. Kyle came out *the most* functioning and healthy, but both her and Kim pay for their childhood trauma in other ways. ((FUN FACT: a MAJORITY of the housewives have full blown NPD, the few others are close but don’t qualify pathologically. There has been a COUPLE empaths on the show, but they both left after one season. Bravo platforms a whole world of personality disorders…
In the 1800s in Europe the Grimm brothers traveled around collecting folk tales, in Denmark HC Andersen did it, here in Norway Asbjørnsen & Moe did the same thing. The folk tales was stories people entertained with before tv/film/radio, the stories came in many different versions, often quite gruesome, then later the stories got cleaned up and sold as fairytales. Today with everyone being so woke people have issues with the stories, especially if they find out the origin of stories like The Little Mermaid and others. Disney's most beloved movies have folk tale roots
The little mermaid is literally an allegory about the gay author's prohibited love for another man. It's conservatives who would throw a fit if they found out its origin.
I sued a bank, and received a settlement. Part of the settlement was that I could not speak of it. It was not scandalous, but they were harassing me for money, in error. They were just wrong. But, they don’t want that out there. Sometimes you legally CANNOT disclose that there was even a settlement.
Check out Zack Peters recap of House of Hilton and of Kim, Kyle and Kathy. You will learn so much about their family it’s insane. Big Kathy was kind of a momster.
Everyone who actually watches the show knows that Rinna exaggerates and is the biggest drama queen of all time. I am sure Kathy was upset and said some dumb things, but who cares! No one is perfect and if Rinna thinks she is, then that is hilarious
Another great video! I am so upset I wasn't able to go to see your live show when you came to Seattle and Portland. I live a little over an hour away from Seattle and 2 hours away from Portland. I had work in the Emergency Department. But you gave us this great video with my fave Chris! So proud of you and direction of your career is going! 🫶🙌🙌❤️
This is why I love Heather, she doesn't hide information like other channels, specifically UpandAdam. Viewers need to know the full story so we can make decisions..
Not a Rinna fan, and I feel Kathy will come out unscathed as a result of the universal Rinna hate, but is Kathy really who we think she is? Nope. I dont think so... But the fact Rinna is the only real witness, Kathy will survive. But her kids have said racist things, some you can find on youtube saying the N word with a hard R and homophobic slurs, and their other youngest child who they keep locked in the basement also has said weird things. Does the apple fall far? Kathy appears on the show now very self aware, and is the fun kooky rich doe eyed innocent, when in reality her past appearances on the show in earlier season, she was 180% different, being critical about what her sisters were wearing, the same way she came across in the Paris docu, colder, biting, etc. Do I like Kathy on the show, yes.. But do I think thats really her. No.
Love your analysis heather. I think your spot on, super interesting dynamics playing out. Love how we all spend time psychoanalysing these people too 😂
Yes and as someone raised by a borderline mother, it is really triggering for me to see how Britney talks negatively about her sons in public,...blaming them for not caring about her, and then thousands and thousands of people cheering her on AGAINST HER OWN CHILDREN. Newsflash mothers out there: If your children don't want to spend time with you, do not talk to you, speak out against you, it's 100% because you've hurt them in a very major way at some point. It's not their fault. It's yours.
Kathy was horrible to her kids and her sisters. I’m sure she’s in a constant state of meds and denial. I mean, does she even talk to her husband? Her mom sounds like a Ghislaine
WHO said Kathy called the DJ a derogatory word? Who heard this? Who? It makes NO sense that she would have done that. None! Why hasn’t the DJ come forward to claim it’s true? I recall, in Rinna’s 1st version of the story (there have been a few), it was just Rinna and Kathy in the bar and Kathy used the insulting words in the bar…not at home. Didn’t believe Rinna then…don’t believe her now. I do believe Kathy got fed up with how the ladies were treating her and she popped off about that. I am sure she said mean things about Kyle, justifiably so…and probably things about Bravo and how the ladies were treating her on camera…and how Mauricio was treating her…but I do NOT believe she threatened anybody…or that she was pounding the walls and stomping on her glasses. Why on earth would she act that way in front of Rinna, of all people? She saw how horrible Rinna acted over the tequila. She knows how evil and despicable Rinna was towards her sister Kim. Not to mention, LVP and Denise Richards. And Garcelle. If Rinna was on her phone texting while this was happening…you don’t think she would have taken a video or something to catch some of the audio of Kathy ranting in the other room? Starting to think Heather MUST be close friends with Rinna.
To me, when it comes down to it, the ladies need to be upset with Bravo for giving Kathy so much power, not Kathy. Not everyone sells their soul to be a part of the show, some people actually negotiate their terms. It is what it is.
Lisa R was probably too excited to accompany Kathy home so she could use that unfortunate, human meltdown moment to then try and destroy someone. She could of used that moment to help try to heal a sister relationship and give a pass to Kathy…the pass Lisa is always wanting from everyone for her bad behavior.
I truly don’t understand how anyone believes anything that comes out of Rinnas mouth. I just don’t see Kathy talking about all that in front of the one person who is notorious for throwing their friends under the bus
It’s really bizarre that Heather would choose to believe hateful comments about someone she doesn’t know based on rumors and racism; when she is close friends with Chris who had a personal association with MM and he told her she was nothing but nice and warm to him over a period of years when she had nothing to gain from that relationship! Cynical world.
are you kidding me you have been on TH-cam this whole time and I am just now finding out?! in high school my best friend and I used to LOVE when you were on Chelsea lately ahhh I love you Heather!!!!
Meghan Markle didn't see herself as a Black woman before this stuff with the monarchy. She always considered herself as mixed--so Beyonce of anything is giving her a bit too much Black street cred. She hung out with mostly white people and dated mostly white guys. When she was engaged, said she thought the news coverage about her would be fair, NO BLACK PERSON EVER expects media to be fair or nice to them. Catherine supposedly changed universities once she found out William was going to one she had been accepted to. She walked scantily clad in a fashion show he attended. She was called "Waity Caity". So why is Meghan the only "calculating one"? And if she and Catherine did calculate it, who cares? Lots of women do it when they want a guy of a specific caliber. More power to the women who can swing it. Female ambition is not a crime; you don't deserve punishment because of it.
I don't think she sees herself as a black woman still and I don't think that's a bad thing. She's biracial - her father's white and her mom is biracial. But biracial isnt enough in Europe. Race and racism is very different here, it's more than skin color. If she was a white American, she would have still been treated horribly. So, her being biracial was just added ammunition in their hate.
@@danibaie There is an anti-foreigner sentiment in Britain. But she's gotten more than her fair share of stuff. It's so over the top that it has reached levels of absolute repulsion. It makes minorities feel super uncomfortable to have the white British news media keep churning out every super silly rumor, from avocado consumption to airplane rides. I'm sick of it.
@@danibaie A lot of us are reading between the lines because this level of hatred is out of this world. Thankfully, Chris said she was nice--although some of the ire against her is that she's "too nice". Some people hate other people who are "too nice". They think they must be con artists.
Sounds like Kathy had a full on, privileged rich white woman, drunken Karen, melt down. I absolutely believe it. Some sibling relationships can be so dysfunctional and full of jealousy and borderline hate, it's insane. Beyond middle aged adults doing the whole, if I'm not ok then you shouldn't be ok, or, if you have that then I should have it too. It's the abusive relationship your born into and it sucks. In that sense, I feel for Kyle.
🎯 If you haven’t read “House of Hilton “ which is out of print and so is hard to get & expensive, I encourage you to do so. If you’re not a reader or have no real interest, go to Zack Peter on TH-cam. He has a Bravo Book Club & covered the book over about 4 weeks. Look for the chapters on Big Kathy, Kathy Hilton’s mother. She was a piece of work to say the least & it helps to understand why the Richards sisters will never have peace - their brains have been trained not to. Sad. I haven’t fallen for Kathy’s “bag lady” act &,until the recent “rumours “, wondered what she actually added to the show.
I believe Kathy threw a temper tantrum and said horrible things but what I don't get is if Kathy is soooo horrible, why does Rinna need to run a smear campaign for six months and bring up the person's past and their kids, that has nothing to do with the show? If Kathy is THAT bad, that she's the devil who ............................. (sorry I was closing my eyes to go with my dramatic pause) has caused PTSD, then let the ladies back you up. Why the relentless drag her through the mud for half a year?
OMG I was literally just binging your old shit for like hours and I saw you uploaded at the top of my thing just now im like this is the PERFECT time for a new episode for ME lol love it Heather xoxo
i think kyle is scared kathy will be liked better and she is so kyle is trying to bring her down just like fff does every season their like the worst high clique ever
I actually think Harry wanted to leave monarchy and needed a getaway car, to use a Taylor Swift term. She was perfect because she her presence would start a shit storm in the racist, anti-American British media and Harry could say "I'm out."
@@patriciaowens5731 I don't think he cares about royalty. He cares about money--for sure. The life of royalty is horrible. You don't get to do what you want. You have to stay inside and are subject to the whims of the media, the public, and the senior members. There is VERY LITTLE control over your actual life. You can't just go to a mall, a movie, take a stroll on a beach, take your kids to a bunch of amusement parks one weekend...Sounds horrible and I wish people and movies would stop glamorizing it for little girls. Of course, they want girls to feel that living a life of being pretty and subjugating your needs for others is aspirational. Huge eye-roll. I couldn't care less about some jewels and a tiara. Rather have my freedom!
Many seasons ago kyle said big kathy raised her daughters to celebrate each other's achievements and that their achievements was a feather in everyone's hat
When Heather was talking about how declining celebrities go on a "therapy tour" to help justify their past asshole behavior, all I could think about was Chelsea Handler
You are smart
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....but what if they're still an asshole?
Huh! I used to be a huge Chelsea fan here in Australia. I flew twice to the other end of the country, & it’s a BIG country to go to taping both times the show came here. Chelsea definitely changed over time & I have to say during that last year I’m not even sure I liked her.
Then I heard there was some drama with Heather but didn’t take the time to find out what that was about.
I tried watching her next show but I didn’t find her as funny, her guests as interesting & she got quite political and I have no interest in American politics.
I immediately thought of Meghan Markle. Some say she was lovely up until the second season of Suits when she became a diva - no capital d. Others say she displayed narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies- depends which psychiatrist is commenting. I love that there’s a group of psychologists who have a TH-cam channel now and put up funny clips.
Another one I thought of was Oprah. Again, I had been a huge fan for many years until she started inserting herself into another family’s lives and as a consequence not only cause them great emotional pain but threatens the form of government of about 19 countries. Imagine if someone outside of America- Putin for example, did that there.
Oprah is probably the most dangerous. She seems to have forgotten all those old white people she wants dead are the ones who gave her the opportunities to be where she was before she disgraced herself.
@@michelegraham9044 So you dislike great people? Meghan and Oprah are not narcissists at all. You need to be very careful before you hand your soul over to misogyny. Women get these reputations for standing up for themselves. Meanwhile you don't hear this stuff about men because they are considered to have a 'right' to speak up (those who are mistreated but most are not treated the same way). Really look at what they are responding to. There is no such thing as a 'diva' that's just another way of putting women down. Meghan hasn't done anything wrong at all but the revolting British press over here vilify her because the royal family (the business, not the actual family) want her. It's interesting you dislike women who stand up to misogyny. I like Chelsea. I get that she wasn't very nice to some people but clearly she has grown up a bit.
I think Chris is scared that Peter would block his toilet and put his feet up on Chris’ couch lol
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All’s right in the world when Chris and Heather are together. Thanks for another great session!
He’s my favorite cohost of hers!! I wish he was regular every time.
@@feliscatus6419 I don’t know if the world can handle that much delight in one neighborhood
I love him on the show.
Chris Franjola, all-time fave!!!!!! 🤩💃🏻🎉🥂🤩 Funny without being fake or obnoxious 🤩😂 Love Chris and Heather 😍😍
him and Martingdale are the best guests
@@LinaGenX I feel bad but I find Justin so annoying 😬 Chris is hilarious without trying but Justin seems to be so forced and annoying 🙄
@@ejackson6073 that's ok, no one is loved by everyone
"Neighbors" starring Heather and Chris! Now THATS a reality show I would watch! Please! Be neighbors!!
I absolutely believe Kathy said that. Anyone who thinks she didn’t just bc she pretends to be dumb on tv 😂 you fell for it. Kathy is just like her mother.
Exactly!!!!
Yep
I think Lisa Rinna added to what Kathy may have said, and really exaggerated the incident to make Kathy look as bad as possible.
I’m not saying Kathy didn’t behave terribly and say some horrible things. Just saying that Lisa Rinna’s version of the story should not be trusted as being 100% accurate.
@@LeaveAhNah nobody’s blindly believing it. There’s a pretty good history of rumors of Kathy always acting this way and she’s also a rich entitled woman form Beverly Hills 😂 it’s also possible for Rinna and Kathy to both be nasty people
Rina have s over dramatic and lies a lot. She definitely inflated whatever happen. It’s so ridiculous after her own behavior over the years. There’s no recordings so you can’t believe anything definitely unless you fall for everything you hear.
I do believe Kathy is capable to say something like that, but I have a hard time believing anything Rinna says, so until I hear audio I believe nothing
Have you watched the Paris Hilton documentary? Kathy is evil, I totally believe it
this.
don’t believe one word that falls out of proven-liar Rinna’s hole in her head.
I’m sure Kathy’s lawyers have stopped it from coming out if there was any proof
When has Rinna lied though? The only thing that I can think of is the "Kim is close to death" comment which was not that far off... a few months later Kim was cracked out and shoplifting in a Target...
I don’t believe anything scares Lisa R .
I think you're right about the sisters but I also think Rinna enjoys starting trouble between the sisters
Pretty sure RInna talked to Kyle about this before "sparking trouble." If Rinna was texting Erika during the incident, I dont see why she wouldn't have texted or called Kyle ASAP as well. I think Kyle told her it's ok to bring on the show because Kathy has been horrible to Kyle in the past, which is understandable. But Rinna was foolish to get herself involved in the drama because ultimately Kyle is always going to take her sister's side and leave Rinna out in the cold. Rinna exposed LVP for orchestrating the Yolanda fake sickness storyline at another reunion....so hopefully Rinna exposes Kyle and Kathy in this reunion and leave it in the edit.
I’m with Chris on group travel. At the airport - everyone for him/herself! 😂
Haha totally! I love how Chris isn’t afraid to do his own thing (concerts & the theatre by himself).
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I don’t believe much of what lisa says. She just wants the heat off of erika they are protecting each other for some reason. Im sure kathy said something to kyle for bullying her about her clothes and sabotaging her tequila tasting but that is well deserved. Kyle is horrible to her.
Kathy signs her rights away when she signed that contract bravo is not going to cut anything
I don’t think Kathy signed away anything to return. Bravo needed Kathy way more than she needed them. She took advantage of her immense first season popularity and played hardball to return. That’s why she missed several episodes.
When Kathy threw a temper tantrum in Aspen, I think Bravo thought they had the upper hand - they weren’t pleased about given in so much on contract negotiations and this bad behavior would knock Kathy down a peg or two. Bravo has built this season around the post-Aspen blow up and featured it heavily in the season trailers. But Bravo didn’t anticipate that Rinna would be immensely unpopular at this point in the season so Kathy has been able to play from a power position again. Bravo unexpectedly paused the show a week and, as Heather says, has supposedly been re-editing the remaining episodes. Kathy and her legal team will never let us know what really happened.
It’s all speculation anyway 😂
Then why is Kathy acting like this is a huge deal? If they're lies focus on them being lies not these events that happened being a huge deal.
the banter between you and Chris is livable I love it and love the both of you
LMFAO… Chris ‘ I don’t really know the Pinocchio story’ 🤣🤣😆😭👏
Finally CHRIS!🔥
So Rinna never took out her phone and recorded this whole ordeal. Bullsh!t
Meghan openly expressed to several persons that she should have been paid for the Royal Tour in Australia 2018 that she did with Harry after their wedding🙄
That and the information about how she wanted to be a UK Beyoncé was released just before their Oprah interview and is now being published in the book "Courtiers" by Valentine Low. Low and Tom Bowers are both established journalists that can back up everything they wrote about in their books.
Btw, the annual allowance Harry & Megs received was £5 Million (=$6.9 Million) so she was "paid" alright :)
Thank you for another great show!🌷🌷🌷🌷
@Therese Wow, what a load from just another Meaghan hater.
Harry wanted to leave for decades before he even met MM. His mother’s death and the way the Firm handled it was always the true catalyst. Not to mention that he was only “the spare.”
Get over it.
And you believe all this. Sad for you.
@@randyholloway920 It's actually true and you will know it because Harry & Megs (who looooves suing media) has not been able to sue neither Tom Bowers nor Valentine Low. Why? Because their publishings are accurate and they have the receipts to prove it.
@@theresenydahl9531 you are absolutely correct, they are nothing but liars and now they have been proven to be liars. Tom Bowers has never been sued successfully,now lets stand by and see it if Megan and Harry will sue him.They are nothing but money hungry children. They need to go back to America and Americans don’t want them either. Nobody does, because of the lies it’s been proven. And if he wanted to leave he was a grown man why couldn’t he. Was he not man enough to do it on a his own he needed a woman to do it for him. They are nothing but cry babies.Everybody knows the lies they told on Oprah.what was it 17 of them.
Most of us here in America struggle to even care what Harry and Meghan are doing!😁.
I think Rhinna over exaggerates. I don’t think it’s as bad as she says it is.
The Megan story reminded me about Heather Mills (ex McCartney). She claimed to not know who Paul McCartney was. She said when they were dating he was playing 'Hey Jude' (or some popular Beatles song) on the piano and she said, 'that's lovely, you should write that down!' Yeah. OK Heather Mills.
My husband and I saw you both in Seattle this weekend. You guys are the best! My hubby and I could not stop laughing 😆
We went the next night in Portland and we had a blast! The Juicy Scoop family is the best! Everyone is so sweet and Heather was amazing! ❤
I’m in Australia and I’m so jealous you get to see them live! 😭
Hehe xx
Love when Chris is on! He is great!
Lord have mercy. I am no stan of the Hiltons…but Heather’s take on this is baffling.
How the heck is Kathy jealous of Kyle? She has more money, her daughters are more popular and successful, and Kathy is more liked on the show than Kyle. Plus, I think she is being paid very well for being just a ‘friend of’…so much that it made Rinna mad.
Kathy was just upset by how the ladies, esp Kyle, were treating her on the trip. Esp on camera. Kyle couldn’t stop making fun of her. Even Mauricio talked condescendingly to her. (And after the BS he pulled on her husband, given that I’m sure Rick opened many doors for Mauricio, it makes his behaviour less palpable.)
So Kathy prob was pushed to her limit and blew up. Doesn’t mean she was pounding on walls and stomping on her glasses. Doesn’t mean she was dropping the f and n words…which nobody but Rinna supposedly heard (in different places, depending on the version Rinna is telling) .
Rinna is over-exaggerating, if not outright lying. She lied about Kim. She lied about Denise. She lied about LVP. This is what she does.
Kyle bashes her sisters on camera. That is what she does. There wouldn’t have been a RHoBH if Kyle couldn’t get Kim to join. She did, then Kyle repaid her by outing and destroying her on camera.
U think Kathy has more money because she’s a Hilton but that’s not necessarily true. Mauricio has far surpassed Kathy’s husband real estate company. The Hilton that created the empire left most of his money to charity. Kathy has not gotten any real fame on her own until this show. Kyle didn’t marry for money and now she has it all and maybe Kathy is jealous of that. Plus Kyle’s kids seem like good kids, Kathy’s kids have definitely have had more problems.
It sounds like a bunch of BS that a lawyer was able to send a bunch of strangers at a club a cease and desist. I mean, does the club keep a copy of everyone's name and address that comes in every night and the club would just hand them over to a lawyer? That sounds very far fetched to me. My guess is Kathy freaked out but the only person who is spreading the rumors about her using a slur is Rinna. No one else is saying that. And Rinna is not a credible person at all.
Heather, you need to learn a little bit about NPD and how narcissists work ; big and Little Kathies both suffer from NPD, in my opinion. The other girls avoided full blown NPD, tho their narcissistic traits are very high (that was trained into them). Kathy’s response to the neglectful childhood with a lack of control environment and lack of emotional validation was to develop NPD herself, stop having empathy for others and lose any sense of a personal identity outside of looks accomplishments money, etc. Kyle came out *the most* functioning and healthy, but both her and Kim pay for their childhood trauma in other ways. ((FUN FACT: a MAJORITY of the housewives have full blown NPD, the few others are close but don’t qualify pathologically. There has been a COUPLE empaths on the show, but they both left after one season. Bravo platforms a whole world of personality disorders…
Where was Mauricio? Wouldn't he have be been at Kyles house? He had no clue (allegedly) on the plane ride home. ....
Great question! Interesting…..🧐
Was probably sleeping. No way he would get involved
He was probably at the club with Kyle
In the 1800s in Europe the Grimm brothers traveled around collecting folk tales, in Denmark HC Andersen did it, here in Norway Asbjørnsen & Moe did the same thing. The folk tales was stories people entertained with before tv/film/radio, the stories came in many different versions, often quite gruesome, then later the stories got cleaned up and sold as fairytales. Today with everyone being so woke people have issues with the stories, especially if they find out the origin of stories like The Little Mermaid and others. Disney's most beloved movies have folk tale roots
The little mermaid is literally an allegory about the gay author's prohibited love for another man. It's conservatives who would throw a fit if they found out its origin.
Hei! Er du norsk? Så gøy å se felles Skandinaviske Juicy scoopers! 🙂🇧🇻🇸🇪
@@8Angelika4 Jeg bor også i Norge. Da er vi tre her, da!
Heisann sveisann! Hvis amerikanerne fikk høre norske folkeeventyr, ville de måtte gjøre veldig mye av thoughts and prayers i ukesvis etterpå!
@@ziggywalsh5562 Så gøy! 🙂 Jeg er svensk men bor i Norge.
Bling ring was awful. That guy was thrilled by getting the attention 😒
Thank you!
He was so annoying and like enjoyed it
Thank you for another great episode
Franjola is always a delight
I’m always guaranteed great conversation and lots of laughs with Heather and our favorite Chris! ❤❤❤
I sued a bank, and received a settlement. Part of the settlement was that I could not speak of it. It was not scandalous, but they were harassing me for money, in error. They were just wrong. But, they don’t want that out there. Sometimes you legally CANNOT disclose that there was even a settlement.
“I’m protecting all of us.”
Lol
Oh how I’ve been looking forward to this episode!!! ❤
Love Tuesdays and Thursdays!!
Whitney Cummings Is just reallly missing out 😑 it’s her loss I guess lol
Yay! Franjola! Can you have more of him and Dr Drew on the show?
Hahahaha I love your imitation of Sutton imitating Kathy Hilton hilarious. And that was just the first three min into the podcast
I love the episodes with return favorites! Nothing like two comedians joking about the same foolishness that I care about. #JuicyScoop ❣️
Someone who can have their teenage daughter kidnapped Iin the middle of the night to go to a "camp" is capable of anything
Heather's take on Pinocchio is great🤣🤣🤣
Check out Zack Peters recap of House of Hilton and of Kim, Kyle and Kathy. You will learn so much about their family it’s insane. Big Kathy was kind of a momster.
This is obvious from Paris Hilton’s documentary also
Yes he mentioned it all! Lol it was juicy
This was a particularly fun and interesting episode of your podcast!
Good Morning from Barcelona!
You nailed it with Diana "The boringest lip smacker" ever!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂 Can't stand her. And don't know why she's even rich.
Poor Chris… he just sits there captive while Heather prattles on and on and on….😂
Markel seems to be the Yoko Ono of this generation.
1:12:48 “you said he had to fax it right?”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Heather!💀
So funny….Made me laugh, she is so relatable. Blonde moment!
Everyone who actually watches the show knows that Rinna exaggerates and is the biggest drama queen of all time. I am sure Kathy was upset and said some dumb things, but who cares! No one is perfect and if Rinna thinks she is, then that is hilarious
WOW Heather. I am so glad you got that about the Bling Ring! The Hypocrisy ...you never cease to surprise me
Another great video! I am so upset I wasn't able to go to see your live show when you came to Seattle and Portland. I live a little over an hour away from Seattle and 2 hours away from Portland. I had work in the Emergency Department. But you gave us this great video with my fave Chris! So proud of you and direction of your career is going! 🫶🙌🙌❤️
Thanks for the hulu plug-Too funny to fail was excellent and enjoyed the laughs
This is why I love Heather, she doesn't hide information like other channels, specifically UpandAdam. Viewers need to know the full story so we can make decisions..
Up and Adam an Kathy is friends so he would never talk bad about her...
UpAndAdam is slopoy. He is pumping out a lot of content with very little substance. I guess that's what happends when you post 6 videos a day
I don’t think Up and Adam hides anything. People just have different styles of blogging. I enjoy both.
@@LinaGenX agree👍 👍👍
Upandadam just recycles news articles, it is so clickbaity
So Kathy is making up excuses for her behavior relating to her childhood and yet she's also saying she did not have any bad behavior during that trip?
Not a Rinna fan, and I feel Kathy will come out unscathed as a result of the universal Rinna hate, but is Kathy really who we think she is? Nope. I dont think so... But the fact Rinna is the only real witness, Kathy will survive. But her kids have said racist things, some you can find on youtube saying the N word with a hard R and homophobic slurs, and their other youngest child who they keep locked in the basement also has said weird things. Does the apple fall far? Kathy appears on the show now very self aware, and is the fun kooky rich doe eyed innocent, when in reality her past appearances on the show in earlier season, she was 180% different, being critical about what her sisters were wearing, the same way she came across in the Paris docu, colder, biting, etc. Do I like Kathy on the show, yes.. But do I think thats really her. No.
Love your analysis heather. I think your spot on, super interesting dynamics playing out.
Love how we all spend time psychoanalysing these people too 😂
Yes, I agree. Brittney is very disturbed. She's got issues but now she's not getting any help. I hate to wonder what's going to happen...
Yes and as someone raised by a borderline mother, it is really triggering for me to see how Britney talks negatively about her sons in public,...blaming them for not caring about her, and then thousands and thousands of people cheering her on AGAINST HER OWN CHILDREN. Newsflash mothers out there: If your children don't want to spend time with you, do not talk to you, speak out against you, it's 100% because you've hurt them in a very major way at some point. It's not their fault. It's yours.
Kathy was horrible to her kids and her sisters. I’m sure she’s in a constant state of meds and denial. I mean, does she even talk to her husband? Her mom sounds like a Ghislaine
The Netflix show only lasted 1 season, the execs canned it; all 3 sisters were originally slated to start RHOBH from the first season, Kathy declined.
interesting!
This 5 force sisters operate like a gang and they go hard. 😂
I just realized Kyle was only 10 when Kathy married Rick at 20. Different Dad’s too. Also the mom big Kathy was an alcoholic.
Good morning from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 Love you guys!
WHO said Kathy called the DJ a derogatory word? Who heard this? Who? It makes NO sense that she would have done that. None! Why hasn’t the DJ come forward to claim it’s true? I recall, in Rinna’s 1st version of the story (there have been a few), it was just Rinna and Kathy in the bar and Kathy used the insulting words in the bar…not at home. Didn’t believe Rinna then…don’t believe her now. I do believe Kathy got fed up with how the ladies were treating her and she popped off about that. I am sure she said mean things about Kyle, justifiably so…and probably things about Bravo and how the ladies were treating her on camera…and how Mauricio was treating her…but I do NOT believe she threatened anybody…or that she was pounding the walls and stomping on her glasses. Why on earth would she act that way in front of Rinna, of all people? She saw how horrible Rinna acted over the tequila. She knows how evil and despicable Rinna was towards her sister Kim. Not to mention, LVP and Denise Richards. And Garcelle.
If Rinna was on her phone texting while this was happening…you don’t think she would have taken a video or something to catch some of the audio of Kathy ranting in the other room?
Starting to think Heather MUST be close friends with Rinna.
I feel like the dj would come forward if it’s true
@@Vvvzzzvz true… unless Kathy paid him well to keep quiet 😂
To me, when it comes down to it, the ladies need to be upset with Bravo for giving Kathy so much power, not Kathy. Not everyone sells their soul to be a part of the show, some people actually negotiate their terms. It is what it is.
Lisa R was probably too excited to accompany Kathy home so she could use that unfortunate, human meltdown moment to then try and destroy someone. She could of used that moment to help try to heal a sister relationship and give a pass to Kathy…the pass Lisa is always wanting from everyone for her bad behavior.
I truly don’t understand how anyone believes anything that comes out of Rinnas mouth. I just don’t see Kathy talking about all that in front of the one person who is notorious for throwing their friends under the bus
It’s really bizarre that Heather would choose to believe hateful comments about someone she doesn’t know based on rumors and racism; when she is close friends with Chris who had a personal association with MM and he told her she was nothing but nice and warm to him over a period of years when she had nothing to gain from that relationship! Cynical world.
Racism??Lol
Is Spencer going to be on in October? 🤞🤞 also you should have Jeff Lewis!!! Why doesn't he come on the juicy scoop?! Here for it.
@@lalisitabonita oooooooo good to know!
Yes!! We need Spencer but I bet it will be a while before he's free to come on again,I think their baby is due ANYDAY now
He wanted to but baby is due soon
She did it again Chris, brought you on AFTER her spiel on the housewives! You deserve so much more!
Heather - I know he’s your friend, but he has too many rules to travel, let alone live by you - hard pass 😂😂😂
Please record the live shows and post them somewhere we can buy them
I love “on-tour Dad”. Chris is the best ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Sweet Heather,Kanye was referring to the death of HIS Mom and England lost their "Mom" DEFINITELY not the Kards
are you kidding me you have been on TH-cam this whole time and I am just now finding out?! in high school my best friend and I used to LOVE when you were on Chelsea lately ahhh I love you Heather!!!!
Meghan Markle didn't see herself as a Black woman before this stuff with the monarchy. She always considered herself as mixed--so Beyonce of anything is giving her a bit too much Black street cred. She hung out with mostly white people and dated mostly white guys. When she was engaged, said she thought the news coverage about her would be fair, NO BLACK PERSON EVER expects media to be fair or nice to them. Catherine supposedly changed universities once she found out William was going to one she had been accepted to. She walked scantily clad in a fashion show he attended. She was called "Waity Caity". So why is Meghan the only "calculating one"? And if she and Catherine did calculate it, who cares? Lots of women do it when they want a guy of a specific caliber. More power to the women who can swing it. Female ambition is not a crime; you don't deserve punishment because of it.
I don't think she sees herself as a black woman still and I don't think that's a bad thing. She's biracial - her father's white and her mom is biracial. But biracial isnt enough in Europe. Race and racism is very different here, it's more than skin color. If she was a white American, she would have still been treated horribly. So, her being biracial was just added ammunition in their hate.
@@lalisitabonita Why does she have to admit to anything, even if that were true that she "calculated" it? Do we talk about how you got your spouse?
@@danibaie There is an anti-foreigner sentiment in Britain. But she's gotten more than her fair share of stuff. It's so over the top that it has reached levels of absolute repulsion. It makes minorities feel super uncomfortable to have the white British news media keep churning out every super silly rumor, from avocado consumption to airplane rides. I'm sick of it.
@@Ayin07 I agree. The hate towards her is excessive. The levels people sink. .. I'm sure they don't understand how revealing their behaviors are.
@@danibaie A lot of us are reading between the lines because this level of hatred is out of this world. Thankfully, Chris said she was nice--although some of the ire against her is that she's "too nice". Some people hate other people who are "too nice". They think they must be con artists.
Sounds like Kathy had a full on, privileged rich white woman, drunken Karen, melt down. I absolutely believe it. Some sibling relationships can be so dysfunctional and full of jealousy and borderline hate, it's insane. Beyond middle aged adults doing the whole, if I'm not ok then you shouldn't be ok, or, if you have that then I should have it too. It's the abusive relationship your born into and it sucks. In that sense, I feel for Kyle.
🎯 If you haven’t read “House of Hilton “ which is out of print and so is hard to get & expensive, I encourage you to do so. If you’re not a reader or have no real interest, go to Zack Peter on TH-cam. He has a Bravo Book Club & covered the book over about 4 weeks. Look for the chapters on Big Kathy, Kathy Hilton’s mother.
She was a piece of work to say the least & it helps to understand why the Richards sisters will never have peace - their brains have been trained not to. Sad.
I haven’t fallen for Kathy’s “bag lady” act &,until the recent “rumours “, wondered what she actually added to the show.
You mean Kyle is the hateful jealous sister
@@michelegraham9044 Kyle is a racist and a shitty sister
finally new eps :) ♡ Heather and Chris, thanks & greets from Jakarta
Can we get Annie signed up for TSA Precheck?
Sending love from Arizona Heather and Chris! 🌵
Chris Franjola is making the worst decision of his life NOT moving his family into the house in Heather's neighborhood!
I believe Kathy threw a temper tantrum and said horrible things but what I don't get is if Kathy is soooo horrible, why does Rinna need to run a smear campaign for six months and bring up the person's past and their kids, that has nothing to do with the show? If Kathy is THAT bad, that she's the devil who ............................. (sorry I was closing my eyes to go with my dramatic pause) has caused PTSD, then let the ladies back you up. Why the relentless drag her through the mud for half a year?
@@LeaveAhNah exactly!!!
I still think Big Kathy's Ghost deserves a Diamond. i dont what she did to those girls but thered be no show without her legacy.
Just watch, the way things are going, Sam Ashgarhi is going to put Britney in a conservatorship 😆
Hurray!! Chris Franjola day! 🎉
OMG I was literally just binging your old shit for like hours and I saw you uploaded at the top of my thing just now im like this is the PERFECT time for a new episode for ME lol love it Heather xoxo
I was doing this too, sorted by comedic guest.
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i think kyle is scared kathy will be liked better and she is so kyle is trying to bring her down just like fff does every season their like the worst high clique ever
I actually think Harry wanted to leave monarchy and needed a getaway car, to use a Taylor Swift term. She was perfect because she her presence would start a shit storm in the racist, anti-American British media and Harry could say "I'm out."
But he didn’t think that he would lose any perks.He wanted the things that come with being a royal.
@@patriciaowens5731 I don't think he cares about royalty. He cares about money--for sure. The life of royalty is horrible. You don't get to do what you want. You have to stay inside and are subject to the whims of the media, the public, and the senior members. There is VERY LITTLE control over your actual life. You can't just go to a mall, a movie, take a stroll on a beach, take your kids to a bunch of amusement parks one weekend...Sounds horrible and I wish people and movies would stop glamorizing it for little girls. Of course, they want girls to feel that living a life of being pretty and subjugating your needs for others is aspirational. Huge eye-roll. I couldn't care less about some jewels and a tiara. Rather have my freedom!
Michele is how you spell Michael in Italian. It's not Michelle.😂😂😂
Heather, I never get sick of listening of you!💖💖
Heather is 100% right on the Tom Hanks - Pinokeo thing…..He should have passed it up…It’s a creepy story anyway.
Good Morning from Ohio! 🙂
If Erika Jayne STILL hasn’t been fired then I think every housewife can literally say anything they want (just words guys) and not get fired
Chris and Heather yipppeeee 💙🥰💙
“It’s my opinion because I walk on this earth and I have a brain.”
I don’t know that I would call big Kathy a parent. She was more like a mentor and a Madame. 😉
I live for Tuesdays and Thursdays 🤩
If Tom's book was full of falsehoods, Meghan would have already sued!
My mom loves to stir the pot between my siblings. My mom actually gets jealous when we, the siblings, are getting along and spending time together.
I love Chris F!! Such good comedy together
Many seasons ago kyle said big kathy raised her daughters to celebrate each other's achievements and that their achievements was a feather in everyone's hat
Love your show!! You are soo great at delivering the juice❣️❣️
Are you a "BOT" ? ? ?
I know you choked and I’m sorry but when you laugh really hard it’s my favourite lol. It kills me. Awesome pod 💜
Your assessment feels really solid (& nuanced) to me.
Kathy has secrets. There are many secrets they hide about their mother.