It's crazy that lot of the 1.X characters that have had some kind of niche gimmick mechanic as part of their power budget have flopped over time. Blade's sustain, Luocha's dispel, Silver Wolf's implant, none of that shit matters. It's kind of a big design failure IMO actually, HSR has become an absurdly simple game in recent times with only 1 consideration: make enemy HP to go to 0. Everything else is noise and enemy mechanics, typing, or strategy barely matter anymore. Pull best team mates for big damage -> win game.
@@fredxu99 honestly u cant compare version 1 with 2, bc obviusly back then you needed strategies to be able to get through the hard content, not bc the game had more mechanics, quite the oposite, we needed to think more bc of the lack of characters we had compared to the version 2, back then team comps werent a thing, and characters like silver wolf louhca or blade were good, bc they did a very great job as a solo character, but now we have team niches where, some characters are very mid outside their team composition but when runned with a specific set of characters they become incredibly strong, meanwhile verision 1 characters dont rlly master any ''teamcomp'' , thats why it feels like they are bad, and in term of desing it make sense, back then since it was a very early game version, hoyo decided to make more simple easly fit characters for any early account.
IMPORTANT : 8:19 If Pokke went to break the 1st man on the left with Rappa's second Basic Attack instead of spamming on the center, he would've gained 2 charges by breaking him, that's translate to 100% multiplier wasted on that third attack, he could've made the 0 cycle that's infortunate You can see it that Rappa has 2 charges at 8:32, this is because Pokke broke with the third Basic attack, and the point of Rappa's THIRD Basic attack is to use charges, not to obtain them like Pokke did To remind : Each charge is translate to 50% damage MULTIPLIER on Rappa's third attack. If miHoYo let us to choose which target to hit during Rappa's ultimate it is not just because it's cool, because there's a point
If you're not really gunning for a 0 cycle clear with Firefly, Pela is still a pretty good substitute for Ruan Mei. I managed to clear stage 1 with 3-4 cycles using an e0s0 firefly (misha lc), E2S0 gallagher, E2S0 hmc, and E6S0 pela with not fully maxed talents.
You don't want it to be 4 star, if the break efficiency is lower than 50% there will be some leftover toughness which is pretty annoying. I can see one that buffs only one ally, or themselves and an ally though.
@@ch1dd yeah I'm thinking of a single target buff. It's a 4 star unit after all. Gotta make it accessible for newer players or those who doesn't have Ruan Mei. Give some breathing room for them.
@@ch1dd E6 Gallagher buffs his own efficiency, for another 4 start that boosts it, it's either party wide gutted buff (less than 50%), or single target 50%.
@@namieblinker5922 I know, that's what I'm saying. March also buffs her own depending on shifu path, and they don't have a debuff that increases toughness damage taken yet, so there are options for this. It wouldn't surprise me if it was 100% for a single target, or 50-50 for them+ one ally, and it's more likely to be on a 4 star when we seem to be at the tail end of break meta ending with Fugue for the limited banners.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it would be Ruan Mei is the substitute of Ruan Mei at the end of the video, but hey first time its actually the video
I do think it'd be better to test Rappa - or any break oriented unit, for that matter - in AS rather than this specific MoC since this team is p much guaranteed to 0-1 cycle anyway. The AV left is a more accurate metric to use imo
Rappa actually has really good ult uptime because of her passive. Everytime an ally breaks an elite she regenerates 10 energy iirc (and an extra charge for her talent). This also synergizes pretty well with exo-toughness. It just so happens that all 3 of the choir mobs count as elites.
Breaking Exo Toughness gives her more energy. This mechanic was made with Rappa in mind so she can keep up with Firefly. Also, Gallagher likely has that S5 Quid Pro Quo.
Not sell out kafka it's Okay you have acheron instead. Not have Ruan mei? It's okay you have pela mei. You have not Aventurine? Its okay you have gepard. You have Lingsha? Its okay gallager will help you. Not have Fugue? It's okay you have HMC.
Who do you think is better to be Ruan Mei's substitute? Pela or asta ? Please answer, I want to make a party break, I just played 1 month ago and missed Ruanmei's Rerun
Asta is the superior Ruan Mei substitute IMPO because of the following reasons: 1. Asta's atk is super useful for Break teams 2. Asta's SPD buff is amazing to keep up with faster enemies and make your team's cycle more consistent 3. Asta can be used for DDD instead of HMC to further make her ult's action advance even better 4. Asta is fire which makes her synergy with Firefly better (but tbh Asta is still good RM sub for Rappa teams since most of the time that enemies are Imag weak are aso fire weak but lets see) Yes Pela's DEF shred is ridiculously busted however that is the only thing that makes her useful. Since she's Ice and most of the time enemies you are going against in Rappa/Firefly teams are Imag/Fire weak. In conclusion. Pela if u want bigger numbers, Asta for consistency in regards of everything (breaking, dmg buff and spd)
Thing with asta is without e6 she's closing in on being sp negative. Not only that,the atk requirement for rappa doesn't require an atk buffer since she gets rlly close without asta's atk buff. And for ff you need to tune and time asta's spd buff so that you get the 4t ff
@@lies_v1 Ya true, tbh I prefer using Welt with Rappa for the slow, imag tough break and imprisonment while Asta is for Firefly but the main point is really just Asta's ult giving big spd buff
Luka. More damage and she doesn't cry for energy like Silverwolf. Use energy regen ornament then you get her ultimate in her first turn playing endgame contents.
See pela is a really good support definitely my favorite 4 star character but it is like Gallagher and lingsha, 5 star are usually better but 4 star can get your work done,they ain't as good as 5 star but still can clear content at least if you have pokkie build 😅
She cares about break efficiency because she doesn't have the greatest toughness damage and doesn't weakness implant, so efficiency helps her to get the talent stacked every basic attack.
No More Lingsha showcase.. and then Pokke Face LMAO... 13:01 ... yes we all know people are sour they didn't pull for Lingsha. Ah well the good news Lingsha Rerun will be very popular indeed. But very well played Pokke. using Pela.
@@hypemaddox lingsha would be better than ghallager here.. in fact it would mean better sustain and more breaks and damage and her ult does a bit more to buff break than ghallger plus the followup on fu yuan and more aoe becuase of it and her skill, but the biggest reason to use ghallger is the abuse of quid pro quo here, so its a bit of a trade off and while you could use it with lingsha.. you'd be sacrificing a lot of her own dmg and break for that and as for sp well here hes fine but it'd be negative most likely.
@@hypemaddox I have no idea on that one in all honesty nor was I aware I don't pay that much attention to him or most other tubers on hsr, plus let's be honest the only community side hoyo has any care for is the CN community because they whale harder than coomers whaling for sluts
That’s literally not true.Pela is always in a meta team comp for most players.Not everyone has the best supports and pela is used alot in an E0 acheron team
No. This is very important to know. Why? Rappa's kit is the answer She can deal SuBe damage without needing to break and doesn't need HMC. She can double her damage if get stacks, so it's better enemies get up after doing all her 3 atq basic. She have low toughness reduction, debuff and PEN makes her deal more damage. So efficience is not her most wanted buff. Conclusion: Can especulate that she his going to change HMC, Ruan Mei from the team in future and the best option of support to have is a exo Toughness AoE buffer because she's not a powerfull breaker like Like Boothill.
conclusion: pull ruan mei if you dont want choir survive at 1% hp
ruan mei is only 1% better than pela confirmed
Another one who doesn’t understand the point of the video …
@@TyroneCLove Another one who doent get the joke...
With Ruan Mei you may get 5% left if you don’t re-gear your other chars😂
We got bag2 before gta6 release
Box2 powercreep mr.pokke, he is just the better player
Nah Mr.pokke don't struggle on moc 7
@@CactusBoi-to4hk yes he struggles in moc 1🙏🏻🤦🏻♂️
Box2: Tier 0
Pokke: Tier 1.5
Brick tierlist @@hxnslshhax9011
@@hxnslshhax9011heck
9:37 I HEAR A PUN???
"I wanna wrap up this video"
"I wanna rappa this video"
Everyday, Silver Wolf stock goes down...
silver who?
can't believe she was prio pull back 2.1, good thing i didn't pull lol
OG stellaron hunter just Bad. Only FF, is good, other stellaron hunter just whatever.
It's crazy that lot of the 1.X characters that have had some kind of niche gimmick mechanic as part of their power budget have flopped over time. Blade's sustain, Luocha's dispel, Silver Wolf's implant, none of that shit matters. It's kind of a big design failure IMO actually, HSR has become an absurdly simple game in recent times with only 1 consideration: make enemy HP to go to 0. Everything else is noise and enemy mechanics, typing, or strategy barely matter anymore. Pull best team mates for big damage -> win game.
@@fredxu99 honestly u cant compare version 1 with 2, bc obviusly back then you needed strategies to be able to get through the hard content, not bc the game had more mechanics, quite the oposite, we needed to think more bc of the lack of characters we had compared to the version 2, back then team comps werent a thing, and characters like silver wolf louhca or blade were good, bc they did a very great job as a solo character, but now we have team niches where, some characters are very mid outside their team composition but when runned with a specific set of characters they become incredibly strong, meanwhile verision 1 characters dont rlly master any ''teamcomp'' , thats why it feels like they are bad, and in term of desing it make sense, back then since it was a very early game version, hoyo decided to make more simple easly fit characters for any early account.
Somewhere out there Xolze Telos is writing up a novel in her community tab about how FireFraud could never (bonus points if she says the r word)
Who is that?
@@longps9528 a hsr youtube channel. She, huh... doesn't like Firefly very much
@longps9528 Firefly
@@Kazeahi i meant Xolze Telos
@@longps9528 a youtuber that doesn't like Firefly very much
IMPORTANT : 8:19 If Pokke went to break the 1st man on the left with Rappa's second Basic Attack instead of spamming on the center, he would've gained 2 charges by breaking him, that's translate to 100% multiplier wasted on that third attack, he could've made the 0 cycle that's infortunate
You can see it that Rappa has 2 charges at 8:32, this is because Pokke broke with the third Basic attack, and the point of Rappa's THIRD Basic attack is to use charges, not to obtain them like Pokke did
To remind : Each charge is translate to 50% damage MULTIPLIER on Rappa's third attack.
If miHoYo let us to choose which target to hit during Rappa's ultimate it is not just because it's cool, because there's a point
Not having Ruan Mei in the current break meta is so annoying
skill issue tbh🫵😹
Not pulling ruan mei IS a bigger issue tbh but still you Can clear with feixiao and archeron
not having a second Ruan Mei is also annoying
@@masturcheef123 fugue inbound to fix that trust
yeah but I hated her personality in her story so I won't pull that bitch no matter how much i "need" it...
I sometimes ask myself how would the struggle for 0 cycling be if the Dance Dance Dance lightcone and the 4-piece Wind Artifact set effect dint exist.
i mean, if you dont give a shit about 0cycle
pela can slot in to any superbreak team to substitute ruan mei
this, i dont get it why people so obsessed with 0 cycle
@@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873yeah ikr like HSR not even competitive
It's content makers who are responsible for this trend.
0:00 Me when my mom buy's me the lego set that i wanted
In this universe or the next, Sucrose stays winning.
Sucrose is Pela?
@@Shadow82311
pela = ruan mei at home
sucrose = kazuha at home
@@davifeliz123 in HSR “this universe”? The comment was meant?
@@Shadow82311 I think yes
If you're not really gunning for a 0 cycle clear with Firefly, Pela is still a pretty good substitute for Ruan Mei. I managed to clear stage 1 with 3-4 cycles using an e0s0 firefly (misha lc), E2S0 gallagher, E2S0 hmc, and E6S0 pela with not fully maxed talents.
RRRRrrrRRRR uan MEI
I wonder if they will ever make a new 4 star Harmony unit that can buff break effect efficiency for the team.
Nah.
You don't want it to be 4 star, if the break efficiency is lower than 50% there will be some leftover toughness which is pretty annoying. I can see one that buffs only one ally, or themselves and an ally though.
@@ch1dd yeah I'm thinking of a single target buff. It's a 4 star unit after all. Gotta make it accessible for newer players or those who doesn't have Ruan Mei. Give some breathing room for them.
@@ch1dd E6 Gallagher buffs his own efficiency, for another 4 start that boosts it, it's either party wide gutted buff (less than 50%), or single target 50%.
@@namieblinker5922 I know, that's what I'm saying. March also buffs her own depending on shifu path, and they don't have a debuff that increases toughness damage taken yet, so there are options for this. It wouldn't surprise me if it was 100% for a single target, or 50-50 for them+ one ally, and it's more likely to be on a 4 star when we seem to be at the tail end of break meta ending with Fugue for the limited banners.
Pela is the goat
I sure can't wait for a superbreak defence down support! Perhaps MrPokke has a specific character in mind.
I appreciate whoever did the Chinese translation!
Thank you!
Heads to military but doesn't leave us hanging
"If we get a unit that can enable exo-toughness-"
*Fugue* is on her way. I'm looking forward to your double break team video.
Where the side to side comparison with ruanmei? :(
you legit only need one set of watchmaker on HMC and the 1% problem could be solved, but then reaching 161 spd might be a bit challenging
That's a huge ass paragraph first 10s in with CC
CN Gallagher ult voiceline sounds so goated
babe wake up new stunlock just dropped
6:17 why mr pokke dont use skill just to reduce enemy toughness?
Because then you can’t use Ult basic 2 times
Using her skill first would use up her turn, which then she cannot use enhanced basic attack two in a row.
Rappa no funciona como Firefly bro
For 1 of the 14 players who doesn't have ruan mei, I like this concept
I just realized that I have a pela with keel equipped when I use her in my firefly team. No ruanmei btw :( lost 50/50 on her second banner
Been saying this for 2 months and the village made fun of me for it
People will only listen when a big CC says it. It's sad but true.
Gallagher once again proving that he is him
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it would be Ruan Mei is the substitute of Ruan Mei at the end of the video, but hey first time its actually the video
Bruh I started the game last month and I'm missing all the op supports. (Pela, Tingyun, Gallagher) FeelsBadMan
just play the game and you will unlock those 4 stars within a week. just getting to E6 requires the gacha game.
@@drakehound2244 Never got Tingyun in my 7 months of playing
@@payrespectbro Ngl your luck is ass
Same. I need some Pela and Gallagher
Buy an account
I do think it'd be better to test Rappa - or any break oriented unit, for that matter - in AS rather than this specific MoC since this team is p much guaranteed to 0-1 cycle anyway. The AV left is a more accurate metric to use imo
Rappa After fugue 😈
gonna be better than midfly, I used to pray for times like these😭🤞🙏
i sadly have to skip rappa for fugue since i’m on high pity+ guaranteed but deffo pulling on her rerun
@@vanilla9886 no imaginary weakness?
@@vanilla9886 damn that's crazy bro... But no one remembered asking
@@axi6357 i asked don't worry
how is he ulting so often on rappa with no ER rope , is it just the LC or something else too?
rappa's passive
Rappa actually has really good ult uptime because of her passive. Everytime an ally breaks an elite she regenerates 10 energy iirc (and an extra charge for her talent). This also synergizes pretty well with exo-toughness. It just so happens that all 3 of the choir mobs count as elites.
Probably due to Quid Pro Quo on Gallagher generating additional energy. Exo-Toughness maybe also generates more energy through Rappa's passive.
Breaking Exo Toughness gives her more energy. This mechanic was made with Rappa in mind so she can keep up with Firefly.
Also, Gallagher likely has that S5 Quid Pro Quo.
thanks guys
i mean pela can probably patch the hole at least until fugue (exo toughness + more), but not long term at all
So if *theoretically* *speaking* a new break support wd come out, you can run 2 break teams right?
You can do it already, but yes if theoreticaly a new break support comes a second break team is much more viable
@@infamous-drive6299Just had a strange dream...
Not sell out kafka it's Okay you have acheron instead.
Not have Ruan mei? It's okay you have pela mei.
You have not Aventurine? Its okay you have gepard.
You have Lingsha? Its okay gallager will help you.
Not have Fugue? It's okay you have HMC.
all bro had to do was skill then ult with rappa instead of it being her turn and insta ulting
Who do you think is better to be Ruan Mei's substitute? Pela or asta ? Please answer, I want to make a party break, I just played 1 month ago and missed Ruanmei's Rerun
Pela all the way. Her Def shred is OP as fuck
DEFINITELY ASTA for break asta will be better over pela
the first two comments be like: duality of man
if you want speed/action advance and atk% Asta and if you want def shred Pela but overall pela is better
for rappa pela better, for firefly asta better
Translate subtitles at 3:20 lmao
We are now 1 character off from 2 f2p superbreak teams which fugue will complete. Edit: I should have waited till the video was over.
I agree with firefly situation, I even need to use speedy Asta just to get 5 cycle with her (I don't have Rrrruan Mei)
Asta is the superior Ruan Mei substitute IMPO because of the following reasons:
1. Asta's atk is super useful for Break teams
2. Asta's SPD buff is amazing to keep up with faster enemies and make your team's cycle more consistent
3. Asta can be used for DDD instead of HMC to further make her ult's action advance even better
4. Asta is fire which makes her synergy with Firefly better (but tbh Asta is still good RM sub for Rappa teams since most of the time that enemies are Imag weak are aso fire weak but lets see)
Yes Pela's DEF shred is ridiculously busted however that is the only thing that makes her useful. Since she's Ice and most of the time enemies you are going against in Rappa/Firefly teams are Imag/Fire weak.
In conclusion. Pela if u want bigger numbers, Asta for consistency in regards of everything (breaking, dmg buff and spd)
Thing with asta is without e6 she's closing in on being sp negative. Not only that,the atk requirement for rappa doesn't require an atk buffer since she gets rlly close without asta's atk buff. And for ff you need to tune and time asta's spd buff so that you get the 4t ff
@@lies_v1 Ya true, tbh I prefer using Welt with Rappa for the slow, imag tough break and imprisonment while Asta is for Firefly but the main point is really just Asta's ult giving big spd buff
fugue is coming, the exo toughness meta is coming
I wonder if that exo toughness from Tingyun does stack with that of mobs already? 🤔
If does, it will be 3x toughness bars.
@DobinSergei hmm probably, that would be overpowered
"full e0 team" ´, my men why are you lying?
Fr that is an E6 Gallagher and E1 Rappa.
WTF is tittle ? How would anyone get to this conclusion ?
It's the truth, you can replace her many ways.
mr pokke got powercrept by box2
Box2 struggled on MoC 7 tho 😂
not the pel run mei substutute rippa
ur editor is indeed cooked xd
W PeLa
You can attack before you use Ult with Rappa... that would have given you that 2%, no?
I just started a month ago and I’m at a good point any tips u could give me poke a friend recommended u
my gallagher isn’t e2 so i gotta use bronya just in case i get in a sticky situation
For BH Bronya is obvious.
Touch my Pelageya? uhm.. sergeyevna 😎✖❄
I have 1 question thoo What is more better lightcone for pela? The 4 star of Luka or Sliverwolfs 4star LC??
Luka. More damage and she doesn't cry for energy like Silverwolf.
Use energy regen ornament then you get her ultimate in her first turn playing endgame contents.
Resolution (Luka). A second Def shred is huge and she doesn't have any energy needs and also doesn't require as much EHR as Silvie.
@@mauriciorosademoraes9209
thanks for the info
@@JosepiThe13th thank u for the feedback
I had to use 2 DDD Vs to get 0 cycle on HOO lay
And when fugue Come Out, just Switch HMC for her and you have 2 broken break team 🎉(post before watching the end😅)
Does supa break dmg stack ?
See pela is a really good support definitely my favorite 4 star character but it is like Gallagher and lingsha, 5 star are usually better but 4 star can get your work done,they ain't as good as 5 star but still can clear content at least if you have pokkie build 😅
Maybe you can try do deal superbreak dmg with pela
Nice Gallagher showcase bro
Rappa dmg came from her talent, so she doesn't really care about break efficiency, all she care about is dmg amplifier (def down, res down)
She cares about break efficiency because she doesn't have the greatest toughness damage and doesn't weakness implant, so efficiency helps her to get the talent stacked every basic attack.
How do you even get 160 speed 😑 am I that unlucky
The boss wouldn't have lived if it was Firefly. I'm just saying.
I swear hoyo is messing with me, got a crit rate chest with double attack and crit damage sub on the new support set 😂
W vid
有華問字幕？？！？ 哇啊啊
Dam she hit pretty hard without ruan mei
People made me think the game is unplayable without ruan mei😂
well we got new meta now screw ruan mei 💀
wow no lingsha
If u do better u can use 7 EBA in wave 2😊😊😊
Is this an E1 Rappa?
Substitues
dude wake box2 up😭 he has been afk for about 10 hours in the stream
common ruan mid L
Great to see people realise Pela clears Fraud mei in every team 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Who here likes chicken?
Firefly o7
Damn
No More Lingsha showcase.. and then Pokke Face LMAO... 13:01 ... yes we all know people are sour they didn't pull for Lingsha.
Ah well the good news Lingsha Rerun will be very popular indeed.
But very well played Pokke. using Pela.
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@@hypemaddox lingsha would be better than ghallager here.. in fact it would mean better sustain and more breaks and damage and her ult does a bit more to buff break than ghallger plus the followup on fu yuan and more aoe becuase of it and her skill, but the biggest reason to use ghallger is the abuse of quid pro quo here, so its a bit of a trade off and while you could use it with lingsha.. you'd be sacrificing a lot of her own dmg and break for that and as for sp well here hes fine but it'd be negative most likely.
@@yulfine1688 that's very cool however why you telling me that, my question mark was where he was getting all these Lingsha skipper grief
@@hypemaddox I have no idea on that one in all honesty nor was I aware I don't pay that much attention to him or most other tubers on hsr, plus let's be honest the only community side hoyo has any care for is the CN community because they whale harder than coomers whaling for sluts
sigma one minute ago
Meh, this was just Harmony trailblazer showcase!
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Jk
Gallagher showcase
Nerdge
People ALWAYS BE SLEEPIN on Pela man. Put respect on her name!
That’s literally not true.Pela is always in a meta team comp for most players.Not everyone has the best supports and pela is used alot in an E0 acheron team
I never slept on her, I always thought she would be used more after people saw her value
Ruan mid who??
SW copers still think pela on the same level as SW ICANT
You're copium
No. This is very important to know.
Why?
Rappa's kit is the answer
She can deal SuBe damage without needing to break and doesn't need HMC.
She can double her damage if get stacks, so it's better enemies get up after doing all her 3 atq basic.
She have low toughness reduction, debuff and PEN makes her deal more damage. So efficience is not her most wanted buff.
Conclusion:
Can especulate that she his going to change HMC, Ruan Mei from the team in future and the best option of support to have is a exo Toughness AoE buffer because she's not a powerfull breaker like Like Boothill.