Wow what a season premiere!!! This series is very intriguing and also mysterious! The mystery surrounding Laurent is a little strange but so far it's look good! The Nuns seeing Laurent as a Messiah from a prophecy to lead or be a savior for humanity is a very interesting take, we'll see how it all plays out! Let us know your thoughts on Episode 1!
I was very impressed with this premiere. It was a great start. Loved Isabelle! I thought Norman did a phenomenal job acting and loved how much more open he was and his dialogue. I also thought Cadron was a very believable Villain.
We're off to a good start! Gotta say I didn't care for the "Messiah" angle, but I guess they had to do something different to avoid being called a last of us clone.
This spin off seems to be much better than the "Island of the dead" at least from the first episode. If it can keep up the same energy throughout it will be a hit.
@@aliengranpawhy do people act like the last of us is the only movie/show to have that format😂 also the writers claimed they never saw the last of us but when they saw it they already had a lot recorded so it was to late to change things
It's like the old joke: Two elderly people, man and wife, are talking. "Sarah, do you remember when we got married? How it rained on our wedding day? You were with me." "Yes, Abe." "And do you remember our first business? It failed, and the bank repossessed our home... and you were by my side every step of the way?" "Yes, Abe, I was. " "And you were there when our son was killed." "Yes, Abe... what is your point?" "Sarah..." Yes, Abe?" "Sarah... you're a JINX!" In this case, it's daryl that's the jinx! :D
Yeah, I think it's about more than just being in France, though. I guess they called it "Daryl Dixon" because it's really about him. Still, they could've called it something else related to Daryl like "Happy Ending" or something.
I like that they took the walking dead universe out of its comfort zone, Everything is just very well done, the script, story line, scenery, characters, New twist on the walkers, and the Bad guys. I am stoked for the next episodes. btw have you seen the trailers for the new episodes. please watch and react. it's fucking awesome.
99.9% sure they were CRM at the end. That snarky cow had the clichéd black uniform and they were receiving specimens. Would be great if Daryl had a lead on Rick. But got stuck on their boat instead. At least it would show signs of life, and a purpose for his mission. Think he said he was about 20 minutes from Maine, obviously before he ended up on that bigger boat.
What most people did not see, was the spray painted message on the door of that storehouse: "attention! les affamés ici!" meaning "Caution! The Hungry Ones (are) here!" meaning that les brûleurs (the Burners) are inside. French, like English, has a lot of root words from Latin. You can see this in the word affamés which shares the same root as our words 'famished' and 'famine'. The word for 'burners' brûleurs, shares the same root as our word 'broil' and can also be seen in the popular dessert .crème brûlée or burnt cream. As for the acid secreted by the burners, it looks to be about the same strength as our own stomach acid, which is composed of enzymes and hydrochloric acid. The reason WE aren't "eaten" by our own stomachs is due to a thick layer of mucus between the liquid contents of the stomach and the tissues comprising its walls. Acid of that strength will cause significant skin burns, but not be strong enough to eat through concrete. Still, it's etching the surface of the concrete, for sure. What the man was shouting, before he attacked the woman was "Arrêt!" 'Halt!' or 'Stop!' Shares the same root as our word 'arrest'. Yeah, medically, cauterizing the wound makes NO sense... except to destroy infection... Laurent = Eugene 2.0. Medieval nuns! I still think they should've used ... nunchuks! :D
Laurent seems to have ESP (extra sensory perception) and precognition, which makes sense that, along with his evident high intelligence, would make the nuns think he is some kind of savior of mankind. It also challenges what Daryl believes or doesn't. They've set up lots of directions for this story to go. I am fascinated. Also of note is that the budget for this show is way more than TWD ever dreamed. Norman Reedus is given a chance to shine and does. He's always been my favorite character so I'm all in on this one.
Messiah means "anointed one." The word "Christos" or "Christ" is the Greek version. Hence, Jesus Christ. Remember that when Jesus's disciples called Him the Messiah, they thought he would be a political leader who would free them from Roman domination. After His crucifixion and (their visions of His) resurrection, they began to conceptualize Him as a spiritual savior. It's possible that the nuns and the leader of their order see Laurent as a spiritual leader who will lead France, and the world, in a spiritual/quasi-political union. I don't think they look at him as a means toward the "cure." They see the entire ZA as a test for humanity. I love the cinematography of this episode. The visuals of this episode do more world building than the entire Commonwealth Arc did in 6 months. I find it so interesting that the Abbey has clearly existed since before the ZA, perhaps for centuries. The Mother Superior speaks to one of Codron's goons and makes it clear that she has known him since childhood. He seemed so conflicted about killing the zombified Father Jean. The peacefulness of the Abbey is a welcome change to so much of the violence of the series. It reminds me of the convent in which Jean Valjean and Cosette take refuge in "Les Miserables." The writers are definitely leaning into the trope that our guys roll up on a new, peaceful location, and promptly wreck it.😂 Codron and his squad (what is the name of their group? I can't find the spelling), seem to be a local extortion group, a la the Saviors. What's up with that? How long have they been around? Isabelle is so interesting. Can't wait to find out more about her. Clemence Poesy is a fantastic actress full of subtle power. The Mother Superior gives her blessing to Daryl before she dies. Her death is a powerful symbol of the destruction of the Abbey, and the need to take Laurent and move on to help him fulfill his destiny. I know that Daryl is the titular character, but Norman Reedus sometimes does his best work as a supporting actor. Which leads me to wonder, is this Daryl's heroic journey, or Laurent's? Or both?
Did nobody else notice that sound the last Walker made after Daryl killed it in that room at the beginning? It was in the Trailer too. Instead of just being killed and dying like normal Walkers, it let out an extra groan when it hit the ground, like a human would. It expelled a groan when first hit, then let out an extra groan when it hit the ground. It should've just died instantly, but instead it died like a human taking its final breath. Then Daryl started examining its face, maybe to see if it was a Mask or something. That's a bit weird.....
@olivertaylor-morte8026 But was there not an extra groan when the walker hit the ground? Usually the spike to the head would kill them, and that would be it. But it looked liked the spike killed him, and then he let out another groan when he hit the floor. It's been annoying me since the Trailer because it looks like Daryl heard it too and takes more interest in it. I could be reading too much into it but it's been annoying me since the Trailer. Suppose we always read a lot into the trailers when we're clutching at straws for any new information. Also almost positive that little snarky cow was CRM. With the clichéd black clothes and unloading specimens.
Right what’s up with every leader being a woman. Not trying to be sexist but come on. You have Alpha , Maggie, Michonne , chick from CRM on world beyond, this woman, Madison
@@DukeJimbobbut most leader in twd was a man too lol, rick, governor, negan, king Ezekiel, the wolf, the claimers, Shane( in the earlier season), general something in world beyond
I don't think they believe he's the ACTUAL cure like Ellie. I think it means they believe and that prophecy dictates that he will grow up to be Great leader or something of sorts and bring the people of france together.
I think we have to see it from the viewpoint that these people are living in an apocalypse. So Nun's seeing Laurent as a Messiah is actually not too far stretched.
I honestly think that the ship is actually connected to CRM cause they obviously came from America AND they do have test subjects.. that’s a massive connection between CRM and this France group.
I think they maybe the navy branch of the CRM, these people seem to dress very similarly to the CRM. Why would we see a France post credit scene in world beyond of all shows which is a CRM heavy show.
The boy seems to be an empath or something. I doubt by the end, they will actually try to say he is a messiah…but who knows. I think those people at the end may be related to the CRM in some way?
I was so happy for this to turn out so good. Dead City was pretty good, but this one was fantastic. I felt the same with you guys that there are some minor weird nitpick things but the episode was so good I was able to look past it. Also, production value was great! High budget and good writing lately (well, except for Fear, lmao) and it makes it feel like a big event/movie. I look forward to seeing the rest of the season, whether Carol comes back this year, if the CRM is involved (although with that ending I feel like it's almost certain). I'm also glad you guys are back for reactions. Exciting times for TWD fans!
Good start. Great theme song/intro. Excited to see the rest of the season. The lady at the end gave me huge CRM vibes. Especially when she mentioned walkers were test subjects.
I watch no title screens in twdu the same anymore. When I watched this yesterday all I could think about was what the hype dance would be. Thank you for such an awesome dance!!
I loved it! The story, the cast and the whole vibe. That ending scene was crazy! Daryl went looking for Rick and ended up on a boat transporting "variant" walkers. Who do we know with connections to France that also does experiments on walkers?? lol
I'm really interested in the whole Messiah thing. I think this is a very interesting plot so far. I'm just glad that Laurent isn't actually immune, cause we've had enough immunity plots in TWDU that turned out to be fake or whatever. Obviously Daryl doesn't believe in what the nuns tell him, but I feel he's already started to care for Isabelle and Laurent, so he'll help them because it benefits both him and them. Can't wait to see the rest of this season, I'm really loving it so far, not even a single complaint yet.
Most of the guns the bad guys are using are old black powder weapons, which you would find in abundance in European Museums. It’ll mainly be melee weapons found in Europe, museum pieces that saw real combat in the past, that European Survivors could use. But if Daryl makes his way to Eastern Europe, he will find more modern firearms. If I were Daryl, I would piece together a light suit of armor, which would be easy to find in Europe, to counter the Burner Walker Variant.
I was so proud of the nuns. They have THE Daryl Dixon there and nobody jumped his bones! Especially Isobel giving him a bath. Mad respect for that girl! Lol
i came into this show not excited at all because i was like man where could they possibly go with this story and daryl in france and just his character alone i didn’t feel like he could carry a show on his back but i will admit this episode changed everything ..i am so excited for whats next ..
Laurent is like a kid version of Eugene but with the extra psychic skills. Wondering if his dead parents were part of the original scientists who tried to make a cure but created awful variants instead. Anyone who hasn’t watched the post credit scene of World Beyond won’t have the same context for this show as those who have. I’m so glad they are expanding that info in this show
I loved it.The nuns thinking he's the new messiah makes sense to me..they have a union of religions and he was born of death and a savant so who better in religious eyes to lead the world back to humanity.
I didn't saw it in this comment section but i am so glad that they hired french actors and not actors pretending to be french like in many other shows (especially frenchie from The Boys) and Hollywood movies. And also i really hope that they don't americanised too much the show like finding automatic/sem-automatic weapons everywhere. I don't know if we produce a lot of guns for domestic use like hunting, sport or for personal enjoyment but it is not wildly available like in the US.
Maybe Daryl was told the ship was going to take him to where Rick was and as it turned out it was a trick to send him as a test subject to France. The CRM is sending test subjects to France it would seem esp after CRM Utica lab destroyed. Good review guys; enjoyed first ep.
I think Isabelle is Laurant's Mother. I think there is a story there, as well as with the other surviving nun. I'm not sure how far this spin off will go with the more paranormal side of things versus it's usual science fiction base. But, I guess we will all see as it goes on. Definitely a great episode, I found it better than Dead City by far.
I must admit I didnt have much hope for this spinoff at first. But the more info came out the more I got interested and then that premiere was just incredible. I can't wait to see the rest
In Europe they don't have the laws for personal guns like America they got antique guns from their family history antique looking guns because they can have personal handgun only very few have personal weapons that's why you got a lot of these old 1700-1800 weapons
I’m a little jealous of all the people that’ll be able to read all the French graffiti written all over the place. Must be cool being able to read it when most people won’t be able to.
I think you guys might be missing the point with Laurent’s “prophecy”. It’s not the show telling us he IS a new messiah. It’s the fact that this group is confused and believes it. And that’s the intriguing dynamic of Daryl being mixed in with this group In a foreign country. EDIT: Okay so it looks like you guys got to it by the end. It’s definitely what they believe “in their eyes” as you said. Which personally I like. Lots of people from different walks of life would have different views on this world. It’s good stuff. 👌
this kid is a mind reader, very smart kid too. I can see they see in him maybe a future world leader or something. I like the starting premace. I would have been dissapointed if he magically was "the cure". But it really doesnt matter. He just brings them to where they need to be so she can bring Daryl to the port so he can go back. It's basically an attunement quest to get to the port. Also, tattooface and his bro... I had flashbacks from Daryl with Meryl with that one.
Since Laurent has premonitions/receives messages from God ( he sketched Daryl on the beach three weeks before he arrived ) I wonder if he left the blue bucket of fresh water on the beach for Daryl to drink the day he washed ashore in France.
@@sylvisterling8782 Point is someone left the bucket for Daryl. Between drawing Daryl on the beach 3 weeks before he arrived and him saying he felt things and then repeating what Judith said to him I feel it was left for him because of Laurent.
@@charmedoriginal5923 I really don't think so. Remember how FAR Daryl traveled to get to the Abbey! He climbed mountains, walked across the Pont du Gard Aqueduct, trekked for more than just one day. It is 89.3 km. We'll leave aside that Pont du Gard is in the opposite direction and 126.6 km away... but it was a two day journey at least! UNLESS the Abbey was in Marseilles... but then why was he crossing the mountains and walking past ruins? We actually do not know where the Abbey is. It is FAR more likely that a child, playing on the beach years ago, might have left the pail by accident.
I thought it was a great first episode! I actually thought the pacing and action was really good overall and really dug the overall vibe. Some nice call backs to Merle and also Beth with the singing and music playing.
So let me get this straight you guys were on board with the whole prophecy thing but then when he said Messiah you got all squirming she really maybe they mean metaphorically they are religious maybe he's just like the person that can help it doesn't necessarily mean Jesus Christ okay
Yes we know he isn't going to be the next Jesus Christ. We mentioned that it's from the Nuns point of view using that term due to the religious aspect they feel due to his potential abilities that Laurent will help to potentially revive humanity, which is what they believe is their prophesy. We'll see how it all turns out!
It is so good seeing Daryl again! Great start to the series! I think what the nuns mean is that Laurent is a prodigy and may have the ability to reshape the world if nutured well.
idk i couldn't get over if the walkers are full of acid that burns skin immediately it would literally dissolve the walkers where it'd be nothing left of them to begin with.. also i didn't buy that Daryl (after all he's been through in life) would let his guard down and turn his back to people he just met 30 seconds prior and get knocked out by an old man not strong enough to walk. then there is the stupid tv trope where immediately the bad guy is easily beaten in the first episode yet somehow escapes and will become an unstoppable supervillain for the entire season thing yet *AGAIN*... and i REALLY hope they don't go all religious jesus magic kid thing i wouldn't be able to not laugh lol. other than those personal thoughts i had i'm glad there is a new show i just struggled to understand some of the english spoken from the french people at times and it took watching this to see what the boys name was lol
The bruleurs are possibly protected from their own acids by the mucus on their skin. We see it shining in the light when they move. Same as the way our stomachs protect us from our own stomach acid. As for the old man being weak... he was faking it! When you see him walking down the road later, he is moving well. I turn on subtitles when I watch. And I have enough French to decipher SOME of what they are saying.
I agree with the acid walker seems ridiculous but overall enjoyed it more than I thought. Just wanna see a few of the faster walkers though but we’ll probably only see a couple
I personally think that they mean that he's the leader to bring all the communities across main land Europe together. He's smart kid and maybe the nuns plan is from to learn form someone like darly to make him into a leader. If not Rick who better to make this boy a man . Just a thought well see more as the season goes on
Was that the same lady that got shot in the Beyond The Walking Dead the last episode in the laboratory in France that was on Daryl's show on the boat looking for him they probably got a timeline
I like the messiah angle wit Laurent, I might feel different if he has some sort of actually ability but the religious belief in a younger generation lifting you from the sins of your own isn’t 2 far off. His drawing of “Daryl” coming from the sea can easily be chalked up to him drawing Jesus and Daryl jus has long hair and a beard lmao.
After the Negan and Maggie first season this new entry into the Apocalypse is just as intriguing as as it's predecessor and hopefully -it won't disappoint as it goes on!!
This is the most excited i have been for a series after seeing the 1st episode. I think he is empathic...not in a mystical way, but being sensitive to the emotions and moods of others (it is a trait some people have), plus he is very observant and intelligent. also sheltered and protected. So, not the messiah but messiah like. Either way i am in.👍AMC
If you think about the biblical belief of prophets, and seers, one could stay that being "gifted" is just like being a psychic, Medium "reading" "prophesizing" the things he sees. @@sylvisterling8782
Daryl will take him to their destination. It will have fallen. Carol will come to escort him back to Common Wealth. He'll meet Jude and the other kids. Please.
Loves this, it felt like TWD like I haven't felt in a while. I'm trying to figure out this kid. I got goosebumps when he told Daryll, you deserve a happy ending too. The ending was a little strange and still trying to figure that all out. It would seem Daryll was taken to be experimented on to France. I wondered if they are trying to understand the variety in France more by bringing living, and maybe walkers to France but I'm not sure. The burners are crazy, I wonder what other varieties they have and how they got that way. Could it have something to do with the scene in WB
I think it had to do with the scene in Tales of the Walking dead, set in Maine. Evidently Daryl went up the coast to Maine for some reason, was captured and put on a ship. The part I REALLY do not understand is this: The ship he escaped from was bound for LeHavre in the NORTH of France. Daryl washed ashore at Marseilles in the SOUTH of France. Which means that somehow he floated THROUGH the straits of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean Sea and then to Marseilles! I am NOT buying that! A human being can only last UP TO five days without water! Unless Daryl had some with him... he would be dead by the time that lifeboat hit shore.
@@sylvisterling8782 Yes, may finally get some information on PPP. I heard that it was the original symbol meant for the CRM instead of the 3 circles but they decided to change it but it was also assumed Jadis gave dude to the CRM because supposedly the camper was in the junkyard. Maybe this is actually the PPP group and may or may not have a connection with the CRM. As far as him floating that far without water idk, maybe he captured rain water somehow or it's just a plot hole that will never be explained, I mean how did Rick survive before he woke up unless it was the nurse from the webisode😂. I'm liking it so far though
New title screen hype dance everytime please and thank you 😂 BTW I called the messiah thing and I'm 100% behind it not many shows would ha e taken that route and I respect it even if it turns out not to be true although it would be kinda cool if it was
THe group on the boat at the end is either CRM or what I am thinking is P.A.D.R.E cause we all know the CRM likes the three ring logo and this group didn't have that marking, or at least they never showed it. Great episode!
Bonne journée à toi également ! Je ne sais pas si vous pourrez voir l'émission en France, mais j'espère que vous le pourrez. Accueillir! Greetings to you as well. I don't know if you can watch the show in France, but I hope you can. Welcome!
Love he is a dressed in black . Clint Eastwood hat. The fighting nun. She said she wasn't a nun when she first got there.That she too made wrong choices.There is only six episodes in this season. What?
It's good you just got to look at it as a storyline because is that lady on the ship the same lady that went to that laboratory and was shot in the Beyond The Walking Dead remember the last episode when she was watching that video of the American doctor explain the variances I think that's the same lady
I don't think it would make sense for it to be the CRM, who manage to have working helicopters and everything, and who probably grew even more since we last saw them. How would it take the CRM THREE YEARS to get ONE ship up and running?
It's a big darn ship, and nay have had hull damage. Its not like they have machines or electricity to make the repairs. Its all pure manpower. 3 yrs seems fair.
@@cindyspangler3982 If they built the ship from scratch, maybe it would be fair, but repairing it like they clearly talked about? For a huge organization like the CRM? It's doubtful from waht we've seen. it would take more time to get helicopters working reliably and properly in the amounts they have. Besides, not EVERYTHING has to be CRM. I still don't think that the post-credits scene that they showed in World Beyond had anything to do with the CRM either. That Primrose team seemed more like it's own thing, and not the CRM. On top of that, the CRM has been more focused on establishing itself across the US and establishing its full plans there, why the hell would they go to France? I could be wrong, but I sstill think there's more signs pointing to it NOT being the CRM, than there is that they are. And I would prefer a show called Daryl Dixon, to have a story around Daryl Dixon, and set in France be about France, not for the show to basically be another The Ricking Rick: Rick Grimes, oh and there's Daryl too a little bit. lol
I always like the first seasons of shows when there is a small tight knit cast of characters. as shows, whether TWD, Fear, or even Buffy or the X-Files progress they add more and more characters and the story itself loses intensity because the story gets spread too thin amongst the ever increasing cast. It’s sad that so many of the nuns died for no reason, but it’s good that there is only a 4 person party heading to Paris. In my opinion this was the best pilot episode of any show in TWD universe.
Remember, there is no gun law in France like there is in the USA. Old weapons are easier to find than modern weapons. Military stocks perhaps. But ammunition is a different topic after more than 10 years.
there is plenty of guns in France, we hunt a lot, lots of gun shops, you just need a not so easy to get permit, and its modern weapons, they put old school rifles more for the aesthetics, do you think that our military still uses rifles from the revolution ? xD
@@bmaxime8771 Il veut dire que la proportion d'arme par habitant est incomparable avec celle des usa. Après je suis d'accord qu'ils utilisent de vieilles armes avant tou pour l'esthetique, de toute façon on sait que cette série va donner une vision de la France qui doit faire fantasmer les américains. On verra pas de parking de carrefour, on verra pas de tour hlm ni de nouveau lotissements mais des petit villages en pierre ou style années 30/40, de la foret, des champs et des châteaux.
Wow what a season premiere!!! This series is very intriguing and also mysterious! The mystery surrounding Laurent is a little strange but so far it's look good! The Nuns seeing Laurent as a Messiah from a prophecy to lead or be a savior for humanity is a very interesting take, we'll see how it all plays out! Let us know your thoughts on Episode 1!
I was very impressed with this premiere. It was a great start. Loved Isabelle! I thought Norman did a phenomenal job acting and loved how much more open he was and his dialogue. I also thought Cadron was a very believable Villain.
We're off to a good start! Gotta say I didn't care for the "Messiah" angle, but I guess they had to do something different to avoid being called a last of us clone.
This spin off seems to be much better than the "Island of the dead" at least from the first episode. If it can keep up the same energy throughout it will be a hit.
@@aliengranpawhy do people act like the last of us is the only movie/show to have that format😂 also the writers claimed they never saw the last of us but when they saw it they already had a lot recorded so it was to late to change things
Burn the infection off
Those nuns have been surviving for 12-15 years (not sure on the timeline) and daryl comes to visit and its all gone in a day.
It's like the old joke:
Two elderly people, man and wife, are talking. "Sarah, do you remember when we got married? How it rained on our wedding day? You were with me." "Yes, Abe." "And do you remember our first business? It failed, and the bank repossessed our home... and you were by my side every step of the way?" "Yes, Abe, I was. " "And you were there when our son was killed." "Yes, Abe... what is your point?" "Sarah..." Yes, Abe?" "Sarah... you're a JINX!"
In this case, it's daryl that's the jinx! :D
I've always said that death follows our group.
They missed an opportunity to call this show The Walking Dead: Tour de France
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Does Lance Armstrong have the cure?😂
Yeah, I think it's about more than just being in France, though. I guess they called it "Daryl Dixon" because it's really about him. Still, they could've called it something else related to Daryl like "Happy Ending" or something.
@wolfrising "Happy Ending" would take place in Japan, not France
@@WalkerJoe23 Lol, definitely. "Happy Ending" is a terrible name. I just used it as an example for something Daryl-related.
I like that they took the walking dead universe out of its comfort zone, Everything is just very well done, the script, story line, scenery, characters, New twist on the walkers, and the Bad guys. I am stoked for the next episodes. btw have you seen the trailers for the new episodes. please watch and react. it's fucking awesome.
99.9% sure they were CRM at the end.
That snarky cow had the clichéd black uniform and they were receiving specimens.
Would be great if Daryl had a lead on Rick. But got stuck on their boat instead.
At least it would show signs of life, and a purpose for his mission. Think he said he was about 20 minutes from Maine, obviously before he ended up on that bigger boat.
What most people did not see, was the spray painted message on the door of that storehouse: "attention! les affamés ici!" meaning "Caution! The Hungry Ones (are) here!" meaning that les brûleurs (the Burners) are inside. French, like English, has a lot of root words from Latin. You can see this in the word affamés which shares the same root as our words 'famished' and 'famine'. The word for 'burners' brûleurs, shares the same root as our word 'broil' and can also be seen in the popular dessert .crème brûlée or burnt cream.
As for the acid secreted by the burners, it looks to be about the same strength as our own stomach acid, which is composed of enzymes and hydrochloric acid. The reason WE aren't "eaten" by our own stomachs is due to a thick layer of mucus between the liquid contents of the stomach and the tissues comprising its walls. Acid of that strength will cause significant skin burns, but not be strong enough to eat through concrete. Still, it's etching the surface of the concrete, for sure.
What the man was shouting, before he attacked the woman was "Arrêt!" 'Halt!' or 'Stop!' Shares the same root as our word 'arrest'.
Yeah, medically, cauterizing the wound makes NO sense... except to destroy infection...
Laurent = Eugene 2.0.
Medieval nuns! I still think they should've used ... nunchuks! :D
Laurent seems to have ESP (extra sensory perception) and precognition, which makes sense that, along with his evident high intelligence, would make the nuns think he is some kind of savior of mankind. It also challenges what Daryl believes or doesn't. They've set up lots of directions for this story to go. I am fascinated. Also of note is that the budget for this show is way more than TWD ever dreamed. Norman Reedus is given a chance to shine and does. He's always been my favorite character so I'm all in on this one.
Messiah means "anointed one." The word "Christos" or "Christ" is the Greek version. Hence, Jesus Christ. Remember that when Jesus's disciples called Him the Messiah, they thought he would be a political leader who would free them from Roman domination. After His crucifixion and (their visions of His) resurrection, they began to conceptualize Him as a spiritual savior. It's possible that the nuns and the leader of their order see Laurent as a spiritual leader who will lead France, and the world, in a spiritual/quasi-political union. I don't think they look at him as a means toward the "cure." They see the entire ZA as a test for humanity.
I love the cinematography of this episode. The visuals of this episode do more world building than the entire Commonwealth Arc did in 6 months.
I find it so interesting that the Abbey has clearly existed since before the ZA, perhaps for centuries. The Mother Superior speaks to one of Codron's goons and makes it clear that she has known him since childhood. He seemed so conflicted about killing the zombified Father Jean. The peacefulness of the Abbey is a welcome change to so much of the violence of the series. It reminds me of the convent in which Jean Valjean and Cosette take refuge in "Les Miserables."
The writers are definitely leaning into the trope that our guys roll up on a new, peaceful location, and promptly wreck it.😂
Codron and his squad (what is the name of their group? I can't find the spelling), seem to be a local extortion group, a la the Saviors. What's up with that? How long have they been around?
Isabelle is so interesting. Can't wait to find out more about her. Clemence Poesy is a fantastic actress full of subtle power.
The Mother Superior gives her blessing to Daryl before she dies. Her death is a powerful symbol of the destruction of the Abbey, and the need to take Laurent and move on to help him fulfill his destiny.
I know that Daryl is the titular character, but Norman Reedus sometimes does his best work as a supporting actor. Which leads me to wonder, is this Daryl's heroic journey, or Laurent's? Or both?
Did nobody else notice that sound the last Walker made after Daryl killed it in that room at the beginning?
It was in the Trailer too.
Instead of just being killed and dying like normal Walkers, it let out an extra groan when it hit the ground, like a human would.
It expelled a groan when first hit, then let out an extra groan when it hit the ground. It should've just died instantly, but instead it died like a human taking its final breath.
Then Daryl started examining its face, maybe to see if it was a Mask or something.
That's a bit weird.....
That was a burner so he was examining the knife wound in the face looking at the acid blood because he’d obviously be confused
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But was there not an extra groan when the walker hit the ground?
Usually the spike to the head would kill them, and that would be it.
But it looked liked the spike killed him, and then he let out another groan when he hit the floor.
It's been annoying me since the Trailer because it looks like Daryl heard it too and takes more interest in it.
I could be reading too much into it but it's been annoying me since the Trailer.
Suppose we always read a lot into the trailers when we're clutching at straws for any new information.
Also almost positive that little snarky cow was CRM. With the clichéd black clothes and unloading specimens.
That woman at the end is giving real CRM vibes
Right what’s up with every leader being a woman. Not trying to be sexist but come on. You have Alpha , Maggie, Michonne , chick from CRM on world beyond, this woman, Madison
@@DukeJimbobbut most leader in twd was a man too lol, rick, governor, negan, king Ezekiel, the wolf, the claimers, Shane( in the earlier season), general something in world beyond
This mans dance 💀💀💀 love it lmaooo
I don't think they believe he's the ACTUAL cure like Ellie. I think it means they believe and that prophecy dictates that he will grow up to be Great leader or something of sorts and bring the people of france together.
Like John Conner
I think we have to see it from the viewpoint that these people are living in an apocalypse. So Nun's seeing Laurent as a Messiah is actually not too far stretched.
That nuns scene caught me off guard 😳 felt so real
Daryl reads that first sign: "Oh, I'm in the French Quarter...gotta be a bar around here somewhere"😂
I honestly think that the ship is actually connected to CRM cause they obviously came from America AND they do have test subjects.. that’s a massive connection between CRM and this France group.
I think they maybe the navy branch of the CRM, these people seem to dress very similarly to the CRM. Why would we see a France post credit scene in world beyond of all shows which is a CRM heavy show.
I was looking for some kind of patch or CRM insignia, but I didn't see any. Who knows though CRM is so shady and weird.
The boy seems to be an empath or something. I doubt by the end, they will actually try to say he is a messiah…but who knows.
I think those people at the end may be related to the CRM in some way?
I was so happy for this to turn out so good. Dead City was pretty good, but this one was fantastic. I felt the same with you guys that there are some minor weird nitpick things but the episode was so good I was able to look past it. Also, production value was great! High budget and good writing lately (well, except for Fear, lmao) and it makes it feel like a big event/movie. I look forward to seeing the rest of the season, whether Carol comes back this year, if the CRM is involved (although with that ending I feel like it's almost certain). I'm also glad you guys are back for reactions. Exciting times for TWD fans!
Good start. Great theme song/intro. Excited to see the rest of the season. The lady at the end gave me huge CRM vibes. Especially when she mentioned walkers were test subjects.
I watch no title screens in twdu the same anymore. When I watched this yesterday all I could think about was what the hype dance would be. Thank you for such an awesome dance!!
I loved it! The story, the cast and the whole vibe. That ending scene was crazy! Daryl went looking for Rick and ended up on a boat transporting "variant" walkers. Who do we know with connections to France that also does experiments on walkers?? lol
Dude missed how much of the title screen new intro with closing his eyes when dancing 😂
I'm really interested in the whole Messiah thing. I think this is a very interesting plot so far. I'm just glad that Laurent isn't actually immune, cause we've had enough immunity plots in TWDU that turned out to be fake or whatever. Obviously Daryl doesn't believe in what the nuns tell him, but I feel he's already started to care for Isabelle and Laurent, so he'll help them because it benefits both him and them. Can't wait to see the rest of this season, I'm really loving it so far, not even a single complaint yet.
Most of the guns the bad guys are using are old black powder weapons, which you would find in abundance in European Museums. It’ll mainly be melee weapons found in Europe, museum pieces that saw real combat in the past, that European Survivors could use. But if Daryl makes his way to Eastern Europe, he will find more modern firearms. If I were Daryl, I would piece together a light suit of armor, which would be easy to find in Europe, to counter the Burner Walker Variant.
We have gun store with modern gun in France and Switzerland too.
I was so proud of the nuns. They have THE Daryl Dixon there and nobody jumped his bones! Especially Isobel giving him a bath. Mad respect for that girl! Lol
i came into this show not excited at all because i was like man where could they possibly go with this story and daryl in france and just his character alone i didn’t feel like he could carry a show on his back but i will admit this episode changed everything ..i am so excited for whats next ..
Surprised our boys skipped the part of the nun heading down to clean Daryl’s Dixon
Plot twist Daryl is just dreaming after a long day of traveling
Laurent is like a kid version of Eugene but with the extra psychic skills.
Wondering if his dead parents were part of the original scientists who tried to make a cure but created awful variants instead.
Anyone who hasn’t watched the post credit scene of World Beyond won’t have the same context for this show as those who have. I’m so glad they are expanding that info in this show
I loved it.The nuns thinking he's the new messiah makes sense to me..they have a union of religions and he was born of death and a savant so who better in religious eyes to lead the world back to humanity.
My theory is that the burns can infect you because their blood gets in (possibly )
I didn't saw it in this comment section but i am so glad that they hired french actors and not actors pretending to be french like in many other shows (especially frenchie from The Boys) and Hollywood movies.
And also i really hope that they don't americanised too much the show like finding automatic/sem-automatic weapons everywhere. I don't know if we produce a lot of guns for domestic use like hunting, sport or for personal enjoyment but it is not wildly available like in the US.
Who cares as long as it’s good. The boys is amazing and nobody cares if they are French or not. Ppl Always got to moan about something 🙄
Maybe Daryl was told the ship was going to take him to where Rick was and as it turned out it was a trick to send him as a test subject to France. The CRM is sending test subjects to France it would seem esp after CRM Utica lab destroyed. Good review guys; enjoyed first ep.
I think Isabelle is Laurant's Mother. I think there is a story there, as well as with the other surviving nun. I'm not sure how far this spin off will go with the more paranormal side of things versus it's usual science fiction base. But, I guess we will all see as it goes on. Definitely a great episode, I found it better than Dead City by far.
Isabelle is Laurent's aunt. The circumstances to his mother's death & Laurent's birth will be important to the storyline
Title screen hype. Lets go cant wait to watch it with you guy's.
I must admit I didnt have much hope for this spinoff at first. But the more info came out the more I got interested and then that premiere was just incredible. I can't wait to see the rest
France have strict gun laws. America will have weapons everywhere. France would have old muskets
I won't to say the boy is Isabel nephew since she lost her sister
In Europe they don't have the laws for personal guns like America they got antique guns from their family history antique looking guns because they can have personal handgun only very few have personal weapons that's why you got a lot of these old 1700-1800 weapons
I’m a little jealous of all the people that’ll be able to read all the French graffiti written all over the place. Must be cool being able to read it when most people won’t be able to.
I think you guys might be missing the point with Laurent’s “prophecy”. It’s not the show telling us he IS a new messiah. It’s the fact that this group is confused and believes it. And that’s the intriguing dynamic of Daryl being mixed in with this group In a foreign country.
EDIT: Okay so it looks like you guys got to it by the end. It’s definitely what they believe “in their eyes” as you said. Which personally I like. Lots of people from different walks of life would have different views on this world. It’s good stuff. 👌
I thought it was an awesome first episode... very excited for the rest of this show. Great video guys as usual
this kid is a mind reader, very smart kid too. I can see they see in him maybe a future world leader or something. I like the starting premace. I would have been dissapointed if he magically was "the cure".
But it really doesnt matter. He just brings them to where they need to be so she can bring Daryl to the port so he can go back. It's basically an attunement quest to get to the port.
Also, tattooface and his bro... I had flashbacks from Daryl with Meryl with that one.
Since Laurent has premonitions/receives messages from God ( he sketched Daryl on the beach three weeks before he arrived ) I wonder if he left the blue bucket of fresh water on the beach for Daryl to drink the day he washed ashore in France.
No, the beach was a LONG way from the convent. we saw Daryl walk all the way there. I think it was either rainwater, or salt water in that bucket.
@@sylvisterling8782 Point is someone left the bucket for Daryl.
Between drawing Daryl on the beach 3 weeks before he arrived and him saying he felt things and then repeating what Judith said to him I feel it was left for him because of Laurent.
Or it washed up on the beach and then rained
@@charmedoriginal5923 I really don't think so. Remember how FAR Daryl traveled to get to the Abbey! He climbed mountains, walked across the Pont du Gard Aqueduct, trekked for more than just one day. It is 89.3 km. We'll leave aside that Pont du Gard is in the opposite direction and 126.6 km away... but it was a two day journey at least! UNLESS the Abbey was in Marseilles... but then why was he crossing the mountains and walking past ruins? We actually do not know where the Abbey is.
It is FAR more likely that a child, playing on the beach years ago, might have left the pail by accident.
I absolutely loved it! Great premiere, and the rest of the season looks even better! I'm so ready for next week.
I thought it was a great first episode! I actually thought the pacing and action was really good overall and really dug the overall vibe. Some nice call backs to Merle and also Beth with the singing and music playing.
6 episodes is not long enough!!!!
The bucket on the beach, it's just rainwater
So let me get this straight you guys were on board with the whole prophecy thing but then when he said Messiah you got all squirming she really maybe they mean metaphorically they are religious maybe he's just like the person that can help it doesn't necessarily mean Jesus Christ okay
Yes we know he isn't going to be the next Jesus Christ. We mentioned that it's from the Nuns point of view using that term due to the religious aspect they feel due to his potential abilities that Laurent will help to potentially revive humanity, which is what they believe is their prophesy. We'll see how it all turns out!
“Its strong hand” 😂😂😂
Love it already, can't wait for episode 2!
Love your new dance!! :) And I always love your reviews.
❤ Monday morning review. You guys are on it!
I watched this episode yesterday early morning and it was way better then dead city episode 1. Can’t wait for next 5 weeks of episodes.
It is so good seeing Daryl again! Great start to the series! I think what the nuns mean is that Laurent is a prodigy and may have the ability to reshape the world if nutured well.
idk i couldn't get over if the walkers are full of acid that burns skin immediately it would literally dissolve the walkers where it'd be nothing left of them to begin with.. also i didn't buy that Daryl (after all he's been through in life) would let his guard down and turn his back to people he just met 30 seconds prior and get knocked out by an old man not strong enough to walk. then there is the stupid tv trope where immediately the bad guy is easily beaten in the first episode yet somehow escapes and will become an unstoppable supervillain for the entire season thing yet *AGAIN*... and i REALLY hope they don't go all religious jesus magic kid thing i wouldn't be able to not laugh lol. other than those personal thoughts i had i'm glad there is a new show i just struggled to understand some of the english spoken from the french people at times and it took watching this to see what the boys name was lol
The bruleurs are possibly protected from their own acids by the mucus on their skin. We see it shining in the light when they move. Same as the way our stomachs protect us from our own stomach acid.
As for the old man being weak... he was faking it! When you see him walking down the road later, he is moving well.
I turn on subtitles when I watch. And I have enough French to decipher SOME of what they are saying.
I agree with the acid walker seems ridiculous but overall enjoyed it more than I thought. Just wanna see a few of the faster walkers though but we’ll probably only see a couple
Im hopeful we get my CRM in the walking dead universe! Great first episode!
Beth to Daryl you're going to be the last man standing.... you're going to miss me when I'm gone Daryl Dixon😢
I personally think that they mean that he's the leader to bring all the communities across main land Europe together. He's smart kid and maybe the nuns plan is from to learn form someone like darly to make him into a leader. If not Rick who better to make this boy a man . Just a thought well see more as the season goes on
Was that the same lady that got shot in the Beyond The Walking Dead the last episode in the laboratory in France that was on Daryl's show on the boat looking for him they probably got a timeline
yes i noticed that too .
it would be difficult for the whisperers to walk in a herd with acid zombies, it would be funny to watch this 🤣 how they burned them b
I like the messiah angle wit Laurent, I might feel different if he has some sort of actually ability but the religious belief in a younger generation lifting you from the sins of your own isn’t 2 far off. His drawing of “Daryl” coming from the sea can easily be chalked up to him drawing Jesus and Daryl jus has long hair and a beard lmao.
After the Negan and Maggie first season this new entry into the Apocalypse is just as intriguing as
as it's predecessor and hopefully
-it won't disappoint as it goes on!!
Those nuns had guns, even a Thompson machine gun on that wall, why didn’t they use those instead of the spears and knives?
Such a good first ep and reaction…it’s real good so far and the bad guy seems so crazy lol
The nuns for sure think Laurent is the cure - what other reason would they keep the priest around?
Title screen hype 🤣🤣
Seriously tho, this was a great first episode much stronger than dead citys premiere.
This is the most excited i have been for a series after seeing the 1st episode. I think he is empathic...not in a mystical way, but being sensitive to the emotions and moods of others (it is a trait some people have), plus he is very observant and intelligent. also sheltered and protected. So, not the messiah but messiah like. Either way i am in.👍AMC
I demand dancing with every title screen
I'm loving the show so far. I'm interested to know who Laurent really is and why they believe he is the new messiah.
He is a psychic medium maybe he will tell him Rick is alive
Ah, yes, A psychic medium. That is rare... but it was well done! :D
If you think about the biblical belief of prophets, and seers, one could stay that being "gifted" is just like being a psychic, Medium "reading" "prophesizing" the things he sees. @@sylvisterling8782
i forget americans don’t know french lmao. im from canada so we had french as a class
Loved it, and I can't wait to see full reaction
I bet the kid is Rick grimes nephew because Rick's brother was in France so maybe he had a kid before he died
Daryl will take him to their destination. It will have fallen. Carol will come to escort him back to Common Wealth. He'll meet Jude and the other kids. Please.
Loves this, it felt like TWD like I haven't felt in a while. I'm trying to figure out this kid. I got goosebumps when he told Daryll, you deserve a happy ending too. The ending was a little strange and still trying to figure that all out. It would seem Daryll was taken to be experimented on to France. I wondered if they are trying to understand the variety in France more by bringing living, and maybe walkers to France but I'm not sure. The burners are crazy, I wonder what other varieties they have and how they got that way. Could it have something to do with the scene in WB
I think it had to do with the scene in Tales of the Walking dead, set in Maine. Evidently Daryl went up the coast to Maine for some reason, was captured and put on a ship. The part I REALLY do not understand is this: The ship he escaped from was bound for LeHavre in the NORTH of France. Daryl washed ashore at Marseilles in the SOUTH of France. Which means that somehow he floated THROUGH the straits of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean Sea and then to Marseilles! I am NOT buying that! A human being can only last UP TO five days without water! Unless Daryl had some with him... he would be dead by the time that lifeboat hit shore.
@@sylvisterling8782 Yes, may finally get some information on PPP. I heard that it was the original symbol meant for the CRM instead of the 3 circles but they decided to change it but it was also assumed Jadis gave dude to the CRM because supposedly the camper was in the junkyard. Maybe this is actually the PPP group and may or may not have a connection with the CRM. As far as him floating that far without water idk, maybe he captured rain water somehow or it's just a plot hole that will never be explained, I mean how did Rick survive before he woke up unless it was the nurse from the webisode😂. I'm liking it so far though
I think the boys blood has the cure making him a messiah. The people after Daryl related to crm
Second definition listed for messiah:
“a leader or savior of a particular group or cause”
Slightly less religious definition of it
I just realized… why couldn’t they just have Daryl inside of the lifeboat instead of it being upside down lmao it would be a LITTLE more believable!
Boats will float like that because of the air pocket but agree why not just flip the boat over
New title screen hype dance everytime please and thank you 😂 BTW I called the messiah thing and I'm 100% behind it not many shows would ha e taken that route and I respect it even if it turns out not to be true although it would be kinda cool if it was
Yes but they also thought the priest would rise again
THe group on the boat at the end is either CRM or what I am thinking is P.A.D.R.E cause we all know the CRM likes the three ring logo and this group didn't have that marking, or at least they never showed it. Great episode!
Awesome start to a show!!
Title screen hype dance 👐👐
Judith i miss her 🌙🌛🌜
Je parle français ! Bonjour à vous les américains 🇺🇸
Bonne journée à toi également ! Je ne sais pas si vous pourrez voir l'émission en France, mais j'espère que vous le pourrez. Accueillir!
Greetings to you as well. I don't know if you can watch the show in France, but I hope you can. Welcome!
@@sylvisterling8782 yes we can ! A am from belgium no France 🇧🇪
Before I even watch your reaction, this is by far the best spin-off yet. I had high hopes for Dead City but his one is far better.
Guys, review the promo of series 2 because it's just a masterpiece
You mean episode 2, right?
@@ItsAlwaysSunnyInPennsylvaniayes
That trailer at the end is for the rest of the season, not just the next episode.
@@kimberlywilmoth9184Yes, I understood from the very beginning that’s just what I called him
Love he is a dressed in black . Clint Eastwood hat. The fighting nun. She said she wasn't a nun when she first got there.That she too made wrong choices.There is only six episodes in this season. What?
Also I think he said the Judith "you deserve happiness" line because of his "sight".
Or maybe he said it when he was delirious and Laurent heard it, who knows 🤣
The title "L'âme perdue" means "The lost soul"
Awesome spin off from Twd. I would love to see them tie Rick and Michonne later once carol saves him and brings him back somehow
my only complaint is how different and how much better production and writing is on this vs dead city
Well dead city was really good too tho
Its even worse when comparing to season 11 of twd. Sad they didn't put this much effort into it
Because it's Norman Reedus
It's good you just got to look at it as a storyline because is that lady on the ship the same lady that went to that laboratory and was shot in the Beyond The Walking Dead remember the last episode when she was watching that video of the American doctor explain the variances I think that's the same lady
I don't think it would make sense for it to be the CRM, who manage to have working helicopters and everything, and who probably grew even more since we last saw them. How would it take the CRM THREE YEARS to get ONE ship up and running?
It's a big darn ship, and nay have had hull damage. Its not like they have machines or electricity to make the repairs. Its all pure manpower. 3 yrs seems fair.
@@cindyspangler3982 If they built the ship from scratch, maybe it would be fair, but repairing it like they clearly talked about? For a huge organization like the CRM?
It's doubtful from waht we've seen. it would take more time to get helicopters working reliably and properly in the amounts they have.
Besides, not EVERYTHING has to be CRM. I still don't think that the post-credits scene that they showed in World Beyond had anything to do with the CRM either. That Primrose team seemed more like it's own thing, and not the CRM.
On top of that, the CRM has been more focused on establishing itself across the US and establishing its full plans there, why the hell would they go to France?
I could be wrong, but I sstill think there's more signs pointing to it NOT being the CRM, than there is that they are.
And I would prefer a show called Daryl Dixon, to have a story around Daryl Dixon, and set in France be about France, not for the show to basically be another The Ricking Rick: Rick Grimes, oh and there's Daryl too a little bit. lol
I always like the first seasons of shows when there is a small tight knit cast of characters. as shows, whether TWD, Fear, or even Buffy or the X-Files progress they add more and more characters and the story itself loses intensity because the story gets spread too thin amongst the ever increasing cast. It’s sad that so many of the nuns died for no reason, but it’s good that there is only a 4 person party heading to Paris. In my opinion this was the best pilot episode of any show in TWD universe.
First time ever seing Daryl get a bath after this episode. Lo
What targets weer used for filming? NUN...alright I'll go to the corner now😂
Finally got my favorite TH-camr to react to this new spin off 📴 1.00.23 hours
Remember, there is no gun law in France like there is in the USA. Old weapons are easier to find than modern weapons. Military stocks perhaps. But ammunition is a different topic after more than 10 years.
there is plenty of guns in France, we hunt a lot, lots of gun shops, you just need a not so easy to get permit, and its modern weapons, they put old school rifles more for the aesthetics, do you think that our military still uses rifles from the revolution ? xD
@@bmaxime8771 Il veut dire que la proportion d'arme par habitant est incomparable avec celle des usa. Après je suis d'accord qu'ils utilisent de vieilles armes avant tou pour l'esthetique, de toute façon on sait que cette série va donner une vision de la France qui doit faire fantasmer les américains. On verra pas de parking de carrefour, on verra pas de tour hlm ni de nouveau lotissements mais des petit villages en pierre ou style années 30/40, de la foret, des champs et des châteaux.
This was like watching the Bills fall to the Jets, like wtf!??? 😂