Drivetrain with Washing Machine Motors

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  • @ThePostApocalypticInventor
    @ThePostApocalypticInventor  7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hey guys, I just build a second one (with windshield wiper motors: th-cam.com/video/k7XKJWinG2U/w-d-xo.html

    • @richardwilcoxen9449
      @richardwilcoxen9449 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Post Apocalyptic Inventor moo 27this m.

    • @yemeaventuresyemea8005
      @yemeaventuresyemea8005 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Wilcoxen hello, please I needed someone who can translate and convert the consumption in generator into meter gauge

    • @vincenttelfer4206
      @vincenttelfer4206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nice job, maybe a couple microwave transformers would help out with a supercapacator bank(lithium backed), have start and run battery banks, when a couple alternators get up to speed to start a generating takeover instead of trying to store the energy generated run it more direct, I'd like to put together a homemade drone maybe even passenger I'm not interested flying the idea is to tow the weight of whatever runs the propellers(probably including hydraulics), turn a couple small excavators arms upside down and pivot the frame for the propellers with it hovering 5 to 6ft in front and above the frame in tow controlled by a virtual headset, maybe with a follow drone for the signal relay, you can get some pretty good watts of the car stereo designed alternators feed it all into a a.c. or dc motor

    • @justicejustice2325
      @justicejustice2325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vincent Telfer that sounds interesting. Hope you make a video

    • @vincenttelfer4206
      @vincenttelfer4206 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justicejustice2325 a prototype would be cool

  • @musiteufel
    @musiteufel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You have two motors so stearing is practically done. Just go for one swivel wheel on front of the vehicle and stear by different drivewheel speeds. Nice project!

    • @pumpum891
      @pumpum891 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      anonym musiteufel

    • @RBRM3
      @RBRM3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pumpum891 you may want to learn how the internet works lol

  • @SpaghettiEnterprises
    @SpaghettiEnterprises 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I very much look forward to to seeing this project move forward. For months I've been trying to wrap my head around how to do something similar with smaller universal motors taken out of vacuum cleaners.

  • @KenColangelo
    @KenColangelo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nifty! I agree with the skid-steer folks, just put a heavy swivel caster up front. My only other suggestion is to make it an autonomous snow plow that follows a route and pushes snow to clear a driveway or walkway. Plow up/plow down would be the only additional moving part. Looking forward to the next video. Great work!

  • @qawdhansoomane1509
    @qawdhansoomane1509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i watched you in somalia and all your videos they helped me more and want to thank you for your invention

  • @sidamarali3030
    @sidamarali3030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love videos where there is explanation instead of useless cancer-giving music

  • @alecjahn
    @alecjahn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In North America, at least, we generally say "nyloc" for those nuts with the plastic in them, a pseudo portmanteau of "nylon" and "lock".
    Thanks for the vid, looks like a fun project and I await your next installment!

    • @rickyreynolds17
      @rickyreynolds17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alec J same in the uk

    • @WaltonPete
      @WaltonPete 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe Nyloc is the original trademark for the product.

  • @NorrisElectronics
    @NorrisElectronics 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its very cool how you reuse washing machine motors. I live in Canada and it is a little more difficult. The motors here are induction motors with motor capacitor on the start winding

    • @jusb1066
      @jusb1066 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes in the uk and europe, washing machines use many different speeds and reverse during the cycle, (and variable spin speeds after the wash) front loaders do more, im supposing you have the same top loaders as the usa, where an agitation action is all that is used, thus a simpler motor, but if you see bigclives latest video, it seems the newer way is to use induction again but havea phase speed controller

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can still reuse them. Ihave several in use for wire wheels/buffers/sharpening wheels. I think the Europeans are more efficiency aware so that is why they chose to design around those motors and use front loaders. Here most washing machines are still top loaders.

    • @NorrisElectronics
      @NorrisElectronics 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also I have noticed thar front loads now, in Canada, are using 3 phase brushless dc motors. And I have noticed that in Europe they do design more efficiently. And thanks for pointing me towards BigClive.

  • @kaumohlamonyane272
    @kaumohlamonyane272 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Post is back for good now🙌😁

  • @20-patronkimberlyc.84
    @20-patronkimberlyc.84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its interesting that you recycle your old things to create new amazing things

  • @Jannik9394
    @Jannik9394 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is the stuff I subscribed for and the only channel for which I am turning off my adblocker. Must have been a lot of work but its always worth the waiting!

    • @panicfarm9874
      @panicfarm9874 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does he get paid if we watch the ads?

    • @noah5323
      @noah5323 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cosmo Najaf yes

  • @Swiitchs
    @Swiitchs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Your intro never gets old

    • @seaham3d695
      @seaham3d695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they would answer the phone!!!

  • @brice9613
    @brice9613 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a better drill press than my school.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's remarkably smooth and quiet. Well Done!!

  • @user-gc7gp8oy4u
    @user-gc7gp8oy4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eager to listen to more of your material!

  • @biglebowskee
    @biglebowskee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just signed up to support you on patreon. The value of what I have learned on your channel motivated me to support it. Thanks for your videos!!

  • @ThunderboltWisdom
    @ThunderboltWisdom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Love the idea of taking motors and reusing them in a little buggy. This is the kind of thing we'll need to know after the zombie apocalypse! 😜🤓👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Juan800PimpBot
    @Juan800PimpBot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was actually thinking about building an automated street sweeper garbage collection device with washing machine motors. I've got some experience with automation and Arduino projects. Thank you for your helpful videos

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Just add a car seat and you'll have an electric car... :D

    • @jusb1066
      @jusb1066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      its mains ac powered, remove the wheels and youd have an electric chair :)

    • @sootikins
      @sootikins 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably work better than a Chevy Volt... LOL

    • @robthesamplist
      @robthesamplist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      add some wings and you have an electric plane!

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure you can short power to ground and it would brake the motor, so the brakes should be easy.

    • @lightdark00
      @lightdark00 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Crux161 have you seen electric cars? Which ones are stupidity using a transmission? Look at what Tesla is doing.

  • @louisfkoorts5590
    @louisfkoorts5590 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This project is a nice continuation with the washingmachine motors. Autonomy, later on... Hard to wait, looking forward to that.

  • @derpherpp
    @derpherpp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I build a rc mower before, and actually haven't push a mower over 4 years , but I used different motors. The washer motors you're using are exposed so dirt and water will get in it which will destroy it in few months. The tires will not get any traction on grass or dirt road, the homemade plastic belt guide will goes off track . After all said and done this thing will weight a ton with all those metals. Check my old rc mower videos to see how many frame versions I have . This topic has beaten to death and there's no was to set it autonomous

  • @Makatea
    @Makatea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any chance you're gonna continue this project? Looks like a really promising base with not much left to do to make it amazing.

  • @TheFurriestOne
    @TheFurriestOne 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Industrial shop-cleaning roomba? Or maybe a mobile tool-box!
    Whatever you have this robot do, it'll be interesting!

  • @moeszyslack4676
    @moeszyslack4676 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome project. Anxiously awaiting more videos.

  • @Unknown15916
    @Unknown15916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks a bit like a simple Mars Rover ! 🙂

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go to your local auto scrap yard- serpentine belts, pulleys, and tensioners are usually cheap. The grooved belt will help with alignment.

  • @QLTD
    @QLTD 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't wait to see the final build of this robot

  • @travis4798
    @travis4798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could run chains from the rear wheels to the front wheels, use the independent motors to steer.

  • @simonhopkins3867
    @simonhopkins3867 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's a beast. when I first started playing with electronics- arduino and so on I bought a 4wd robot kit and is still a great learning tool.
    at the time using 2x l293d H bridge ic's :-)

  • @jameslamb4573
    @jameslamb4573 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

  • @RBRM3
    @RBRM3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 seconds in and I feel like I need a Xanax !
    He turned a chemical compound into metal lol
    Of course it works, you plugged the motors into a lower supply that has a direct drive to the wheels.

  • @keldsor
    @keldsor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi !
    The torque will twist the M8 bolts compared to the rubber wheels for sure - you have to support them much more !
    The belt will self-center because there is a little "crowning" on the caster wheel.

  • @AirborneSurfer
    @AirborneSurfer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎶Pow pow Power Wheels! Pow Power Wheels! POWER WHEELS! Now I'm driving for real!🎶

  • @AnimalFacts
    @AnimalFacts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gonna be fun.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro tip: In the US, sometimes it's cheaper to buy a hand truck, take the wheels off, then throw away the hand truck, than it is to buy the wheels.

  • @MRrwmac
    @MRrwmac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work! I'm guessing the motors will have a lot of torque. Probably spin the belts you have on it now, so perhaps a chain or serpentine belt? Very interesting!

  • @victorinborsciov6817
    @victorinborsciov6817 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, can't wait to see next steps.

  • @fatfalcon3434
    @fatfalcon3434 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was really lucky when I searched for old motors. My family's washing machine broke and when they bought a new one they said I could take whatever I want out of it. Then another identical washing machine was thrown out next to my house so I picked some parts out of it well.

  • @dustancreech7470
    @dustancreech7470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, I just stumbled onto your videos and I have to say they are great, and thank you for making them. I'm a sculptor in the US and I have a Miller Bobcat welder/generator that I built a rolling cart for. It works great for moving it around the shop, but the Bobcat weighs so much that its nearly impossible to load onto my trailer by myself. Nearly 600 pounds with fuel, or 275 Kilos. I too love to engineer/construct kinetic devices, but I honestly don't have the depth of understanding that you do when it comes to choosing the right combination of components. I love this video, and your use of washing machine motors. Do you think a setup like yours in this video would provide enough torque to move my generator up a 10-20 degree grade? And my other concerns would be speed control and direction control (forward/backward). I will continue following your videos to learn more, but was hoping you could tell me if this sounds like a viable option. Thank you! Nice work!...oh, another key bit of information: I would like to power the motor/motors with the generator itself, so that I don't need batteries or anything. So the motors could be AC or DC via the generator.

  • @KnightsWithoutATable
    @KnightsWithoutATable 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back to experiments. It's so good to see.

  • @GGoffroad2
    @GGoffroad2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dual motors. you dont need articulating steering, just control it tank style

  • @superdau
    @superdau 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you should revisit how you mounted the casters ("pulleys") to the wheels. Even with 8 bolts those will eventually bend or rip out of the casters.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a feeling that with the motors at top speed and that belt arrangement that this little beast would make highway speeds.

  • @overengineer7691
    @overengineer7691 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like where this is going! Hope it turns into a Mars-rover-like vehicle. Maybe you could explore remote areas via cell connection and solar panels

  • @DanChase84
    @DanChase84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool project! Also, I learned a new German word from your grinder - flott = great

  • @treemaker2
    @treemaker2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Use caster wheels on the front and steer with differential power on the motors.

    • @y788lhjk1
      @y788lhjk1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      rear and power on front

    • @alecjahn
      @alecjahn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a great idea! Way easier than constructing a full steering system. Also saves the cost of a servo.

    • @alecjahn
      @alecjahn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard, convex (a crown instead of a valley) would actually help belt tracking (weird physics, that's the way bandsaws track). Ideally he should instead mount them in the lathe and cut a proper square "U" shaped groove, like this: | |______| |

    • @alecjahn
      @alecjahn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      An interesting video on concave vs convex physics with "rolling" objects:
      th-cam.com/video/Ku8BOBwD4hc/w-d-xo.html

    • @mottbone
      @mottbone 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!
      It's just a matter of controlling the motors separately for steering capabilities... (I think)

  • @brazilcreative1063
    @brazilcreative1063 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It did not reverse the engines, but it works. Reversing switch.👍👍👍👍like Brazil creative.

  • @defalt45
    @defalt45 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered your channel, it is awesome!

  • @aserta
    @aserta 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ANY of the sleeves on a wall anchor that's the diameter of the shaft used here are excellent as bearing spacers for these wheels as they do not come with such a thing. It's worth investing in the 10 15 euros in four such bolts for a project as the bearings are horrid on their own.
    ALSO, such four bolts can be transformed in to axles themselves if welded to a T profile length of iron. Myself i've done this and it works beautifully. My wheels can take 178kg per wheel (goes much wider if you put a spacer in between the two split rims and widen the wheel) and i've moved after my bicycle a load that was 342 kgs at 14 km/h.
    VERY good as such, and it's a worthy way to make an axle if buying the stock is too expensive in one's area, or, as i've noted with a few of my friends, next to impossible. I'm blessed to live in a capital, others, are not.

  • @albertsewell878
    @albertsewell878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could easily build spring loaded belt tensioners, with rollers.as when you add wieght you will probably need them

  • @flatbrokefrank6482
    @flatbrokefrank6482 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to need a longer cable D - Stay Safe

  • @julianyale4706
    @julianyale4706 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that's cool get some batteries and steering and put a chair on it you can drive it anywhere.

  • @Nexfero
    @Nexfero 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yay the old intro is back!!!

  • @lauej
    @lauej 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of having 2 fixed unpowered wheels, consider a single caster wheel, to make steering easier :D

  • @LegendaryUrbanHackerZ
    @LegendaryUrbanHackerZ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting project!

  • @gkess7106
    @gkess7106 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The original motor mounts had bushings. Shame they couldn't be made to work. Also, Those are actually called "sealed lead acid" batteries or SLA btteies

  • @panicfarm9874
    @panicfarm9874 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What formal training do you have? You seem to know a lot about everything

  • @arendmookhoek4314
    @arendmookhoek4314 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love this project

  • @amanofmanyparts9120
    @amanofmanyparts9120 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooh. Look. A vehicle powered by washing machine motors.
    I've never seen anything like it in my life.
    Apart from the ill fated "Sinclair C5"!

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A power tool would be much more interesting than a robot.

  • @frenkvortice3858
    @frenkvortice3858 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    super narration keep it up!

  • @manickn6819
    @manickn6819 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like where this is heading. I have been considering something very similar. Hollow frame tubing with a washing machine motor driving.
    You have done well to get both motors at the same speed. I only have one motor and I am not convinced I will be that lucky if I find another washing machine motor. Control is of course possible and within my realm of expertise but I will take quite some time to get that right so I prefer the mechanical solution. Single driving motor with bicycle sprockets and chains. Its easy for me to get them locally and quite forgiving with alignment and tension.

  • @MarinusMakesStuff
    @MarinusMakesStuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see those encoder motors running with the light sensors!

  • @random-vids5167
    @random-vids5167 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos greetings from Swedem

  • @WallaceRoseVincent
    @WallaceRoseVincent 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so damn jealous! I'll throw some support your way.

  • @crocellian2972
    @crocellian2972 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not bad TIG work. The test worked BECAUSE there was no tension. Better try again under load. Don’t use rod. Use round tubing. You are going to find out what happens with anything but very deep filets on rod that big. Especially in soft stuff like stainless. Talk to someone who welds on race cars or airframes.

  • @timmax4817
    @timmax4817 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait to see the DIY Arduino motor controller

  • @Energikar
    @Energikar 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cut the plastic axle flange down some so the belt drive sits against the rim. It will be stronger against the rim flange. and your bolts won't flex or bend. looks like it will fit good against the wheel rim.

  • @thebrokenbone
    @thebrokenbone 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi. spring loaded electrical motor mounts are readily available, or you can make them to keep belt tension. for my experience i suggest you plan for some cover for the belts as they are easily derailed by debris or small rocks that the wheels could pick up. a skid steer type vehicle should be something to consider providing you have two transmissions

  • @jacksat2252
    @jacksat2252 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm afraid that when you put some load on it and the belts don't slip what is good ,but those
    long flimsy M6 rods will twist and bend easy.
    Hope i'm wrong there,
    Very nice project BTW.

  • @blickberg8404
    @blickberg8404 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should try to publish a small book for your tutorial or other ideas that you can sell on your site.

  • @Darkenexus
    @Darkenexus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the preview pic and thought "Don't die!"

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea, I don't think that these WM motors have enough torque with the smaller pulley at the wheels. But I am sure you will invent a way around it.

  • @derwissenskiosk8041
    @derwissenskiosk8041 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I look forward to the next episode :D

  • @sirensofnewjerseyissimplyt429
    @sirensofnewjerseyissimplyt429 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    We want you to build a cart out of that

  • @ludwigtheurer
    @ludwigtheurer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't need a steering system in a 4 wheel robot, you only need to invert the drive on each side so it will rotate like a tank.

  • @snoopdog68
    @snoopdog68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man a robot wife in the future. You Gonna get some of that.

  • @mickstephenson
    @mickstephenson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should enter a robot into the UK version of robot wars

  • @JyLMGroup
    @JyLMGroup 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YEY! Finally another vid.

  • @callumBee
    @callumBee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just going out for a spin cycle.

  • @Althu-blog
    @Althu-blog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ardino sir is wery naise maicro cantrooling dc motoor cantrooling is wery sooper ant your wrake is wery sooper thanks for you video

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting!

  • @PeterCCamilleri
    @PeterCCamilleri 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very exciting!

  • @DIYTechRepairs
    @DIYTechRepairs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Some lithium batteries for instance 18650 and you will save some weight:)

  • @hygentics
    @hygentics 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add two more motors and make a skidsteer

  • @noname_atall
    @noname_atall 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was ready to say the same that Machinery Repairman said, steer by differential velocity in the motors and use caster wheels on the non-powered wheels.
    also, you can go even further, you can make a six wheeler, with 4 wheels on caster, and the fixed powered wheels on the center (second 'axle').
    or you can go even beyond that, with some bearing and springs you can make an modified rocker boogie suspension, like the mars rovers.

  • @gulnarasafiullina3918
    @gulnarasafiullina3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something to do.
    Put power generator on back of frame connect
    3phase to elect motors than you see the Speed)))

  • @ducomaritiem7160
    @ducomaritiem7160 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the man!

  • @dzodaj
    @dzodaj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this project could of been combined with a tricycle project, so you could do welding only once :)
    I admire your work man, I feel sorry I cant support since I am from country with 200e monthly income...if I was a neighbor I would hang all noon in your workshop helping if needed, learning electronics:)

  • @EpicLPer
    @EpicLPer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Did Clive donate his old washing machine to you? :P

    • @QLTD
      @QLTD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably, since he bought a new one :-D

  • @mechatronicsautomechsaisou2400
    @mechatronicsautomechsaisou2400 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good , I like it.

  • @carlstone5735
    @carlstone5735 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try bicycle sprockets and bicycle chain instead of pulleys and rubber belts, I think you will find that you can achieve better torque or power transmission to the drive wheels when adding more weight to future renditions of this robot you are wanting to build.

  • @HomoSapiensMember
    @HomoSapiensMember 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    but tpai, you're crazy!

  • @zfrenchy1716
    @zfrenchy1716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is not a big diffirence in diameter betwwen the wheel and the washing machine poulley, why not using the lighter poulleys as wheel where the belts can act as tracks?
    Also, the steering is most simple on tracks vehicle.

  • @tatjanafelde8415
    @tatjanafelde8415 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be nice if it was low enough to move furniture around. Then you could let your drawers just sit on them and rearrange them, when needed.

  • @gammon1183
    @gammon1183 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol you're nuts.
    Subscribed 😀

  • @seslan
    @seslan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice build man! Can I ask you why you didn't just connect wheels to the motors directly instead of using a belt in between? What are the disadvantages of connect them together directly?

  • @davewoods177
    @davewoods177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could see this developed into a remote control wheelbarrow.
    Say you had to move a load of bricks or concrete.
    I hope you go that way

  • @EarlofDestruction
    @EarlofDestruction 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if cutting grooves in pulley would make it less likely to slip.

  • @whoevertf
    @whoevertf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had the patience (and probably smarts) required to do anything even remotely in-depth as this...lol