@@Zlatko815 Lee is kinda infamous for having limited mixup options. The options he does have aren't that good. Lee is mostly about counter hit and reads. You get good at reads to take advantage of a nasty counter hit, then use that as a gateway to sick lengthy combos and wall carries. The issue with Lee is he doesn't really have a way to open opponents up (since tekken 4) besides his reads => counter hit pipeline.
@@LordMoebius Lee's slide mix up is not as strong as Law's or Shaheen's because he doesn't have the same range with dangerous mids, but it's still a good mixup tool. Saying he doesn't have some good mix-up with it is on you imo. Sure he is more CH and poke focused but still a good tool. It's not like Heihachi where he doesn't have any lows apart from db2 (which is reachable offline) that can open you up.
@@Zlatko815 I said he had limited options, not none. The ones he does have are... Okay. The main problem with Lee has always been it takes a substantial amount of execution to get the most out of his kit. It takes more effort with Lee to get the same job done than it would with other characters. If he had more mix-up options and openers he'd be higher rated on tier lists. People don't play Lee cause of his mix-up game cause his mix-up game... Well it's not good it's average a best.
Man remembering the old days when these two where rivals and brothers too bad they needed real mishima blood. I like Lee better than Jin as Kazuya rival Jin a good character just my preference
Tbh if anyone should have a real showdown with Kaz, it's Lee. They have a longer history. They grew up together for crying out loud! I'm frustrated that their relationship isn't expanded more upon. Instead they'd rather go with this old boring bullshit father/son feud that makes no fucking sense in Jin and KAZUYA'S case. Pfff!
Connection has been so good in my first experience. Haven't had anything under full bars and have had no connection issues but I haven't tried playing someone overseas or anything
I just played psn east coast to west coast of the US for a couple of hours (the fact that I could even play that long). Before the update I struggled to break throws a couple states away on pc. On ps4 throws were nigh unbreakable even with people in my state. This session I was breaking his throws on a coast to coast on a psn 4 bar. Update is pretty good
Lee still is rivals with Kazuya and Heihachi. Sadly, he hasn't played much of a part in the main Mishima bloodline story since maybe T5 at the latest. I miss when Lee was viewed as Kazuya's only equal (besides Heihachi).
@@BrolyLSSJ01The Hei vs Kaz rivalry is long gone baby. That ended in T5 and always will be. Now its time for Lee vs Kaz back. Jin can have his rivalry with Hwaorang while Lee with Kaz
devil jin hell sweep got a slight nerf, but his uf4 is better, not s1 level still, db2 knock down on counter hit now. Jin got a nice new wall combo, but he lost his magic 4, it’s now just screw
@@davidchu2001 I would not call the hell sweep change a nerf. I'd rather have plus frames than a knockdown where the opponent can tech out of and obtain neutral position
It would be cool if literally any youtuber can make a video discussing the tekken prowess a little more in depth considering it’s not that well known, maybe something explaining how it increases, or what you need to get different colors, I know that main man might’ve explained it already but I don’t think he talked about what some colors requirements are.
@@leperique It takes months ,if not years, of practice. For the basic, you just need to get the 3rd and the last hits right. So input the first 2, listen to the sound, and condition yourself to tap the last 2 at the right timing. I believe we only get 3 frame window to get each input right.
This lee is great, doesn't rely on flowcharts and i have no idea what he's going to do next. But barely uses the new move 'cuz its useless" and the new combo from D2 because it's incredibly unreliable to hit online.
I hope TMM uploads the Lars he played right before this lee, the Lars was really good and showcased his season 4 buffs but he was beating TMM quite a lot idk if he wants that on TH-cam lol
@@LordMoebius I don't know if it's possible to stop a mishima spamming electrics but a ff+4 will at least get them to say bs and question spamming like a madman.
I wanna know how the netcode is on ps4 and xbox hopefully its good. I never played ps4 tekken online cuz it sucked i mainly played with friends offline
I’m in Australia and i played against a player from Asia and holy shit the online improvement is too good there was not much lag it was as of i’m playing on a 3 or sometimes 4 bar connection. Did anyone else tried playing against other region?
Also from Straya, played for hours last night against some people from Asia and even Europe. Holy crap it's so much better. Even against wifi warriors.
Thay mist step is a crucial part to his arsenal. The cancel into sway takes well times execution and practice. I've tried it online and its so risky, if you want to mix it up at range then sure. But you'll most likely never come out on top of a 50/50.
Controversial opinion: I don't think the online experience is that much better so far in season 4 (at least for me). Been getting a lot of "5 bars" that actually feel like a 2-3 bar
If someone can help me. I’m using xbox one controller, after the update my trigers are suuuuper sensitive if i even brush my finger it activates a move. Anyone know a solution. Before i had to pres it way down for it to register which is better. Now i accidentally press them without almost touching them
He requires lots of execution to use, so he’s viewed as being too risky for consistent use in tournaments. Imo, I just think pros are afraid of the swag.
@@Love-Sensibility If Lee is your main, you can do quite well with him. But unless you’re as good as Iamyourfather, you’ll struggle in tournaments. Your execution will worsen the more matches you play. That’s why you’ll see characters with lower execution requirements more often than him.
11:55 Paul got nerfed hard 100% they basically shit on his personality and this guy pretending as if he got buffs😂 what a fool. guess they listen to the whiners too much sometimes
S4 sucks already. No difference with the connection, still getting hit by low launchers even though i press down-back right after the first couple frames of that low launcher on ps4. Random guessing game that is.
Always good to see other Lee players. His mixups/combos are crazy when you know what you're doing.
Combos yes. Mixups no.
@@Trollingtonsrus Slide mix-up? Lot of chars would kill for a chunky low like that.
@@Zlatko815 Lee is kinda infamous for having limited mixup options. The options he does have aren't that good. Lee is mostly about counter hit and reads. You get good at reads to take advantage of a nasty counter hit, then use that as a gateway to sick lengthy combos and wall carries. The issue with Lee is he doesn't really have a way to open opponents up (since tekken 4) besides his reads => counter hit pipeline.
@@LordMoebius Lee's slide mix up is not as strong as Law's or Shaheen's because he doesn't have the same range with dangerous mids, but it's still a good mixup tool. Saying he doesn't have some good mix-up with it is on you imo. Sure he is more CH and poke focused but still a good tool. It's not like Heihachi where he doesn't have any lows apart from db2 (which is reachable offline) that can open you up.
@@Zlatko815 I said he had limited options, not none. The ones he does have are... Okay. The main problem with Lee has always been it takes a substantial amount of execution to get the most out of his kit. It takes more effort with Lee to get the same job done than it would with other characters. If he had more mix-up options and openers he'd be higher rated on tier lists. People don't play Lee cause of his mix-up game cause his mix-up game... Well it's not good it's average a best.
0:14 it looked like Lee did an EWGF.
Bro I thought it was just me I was LIKE WTF then I realize what happened 😭
Would’ve been a needed buff lmao
*inserts white guy blinking meme*
i deadass thought he did it
😂😂😂
The passion in this Lee is Excellent!!! What a time to be a Tekken player. Season 4 is looking phenomenal.
Man remembering the old days when these two where rivals and brothers too bad they needed real mishima blood.
I like Lee better than Jin as Kazuya rival
Jin a good character just my preference
I can see why. I prefer Jin and Hwoarang over Jin and Kazuya as well.
@@RipsharkTV The parking lot scene still hits home with me in Tekken 4
Tbh if anyone should have a real showdown with Kaz, it's Lee. They have a longer history. They grew up together for crying out loud! I'm frustrated that their relationship isn't expanded more upon. Instead they'd rather go with this old boring bullshit father/son feud that makes no fucking sense in Jin and KAZUYA'S case. Pfff!
@@Cherry91 and kazuya vs non comic-relief paul
@@jamesnicol8352 Oh yeah absolutely ! Give us the ultimate showdown BN you cowards!
This lee player got a TH-cam? He's sick!
He doesn't but he's a tournament player from the UK
👀
Always amazing to see Lee
EXCERRENT
EGGSALEN
ECCELENT
Too bad Namco hates him and nerfed him again.
@@SiegfriedDrachentoeter I know :'(. One of my favorite characters.
Damn, that df-2 at 0:15 looked like Lee threw out and electric. Lol
Connection has been so good in my first experience. Haven't had anything under full bars and have had no connection issues but I haven't tried playing someone overseas or anything
I just played psn east coast to west coast of the US for a couple of hours (the fact that I could even play that long). Before the update I struggled to break throws a couple states away on pc. On ps4 throws were nigh unbreakable even with people in my state. This session I was breaking his throws on a coast to coast on a psn 4 bar. Update is pretty good
I played a set from the east coast of the US to France and it was a 3 bar and not to laggy I could pull off DSS pretty reliably I was damn impressed
And this is a lore fight too. Lee's rival is or used to be Kazuya.
Lee still is rivals with Kazuya and Heihachi. Sadly, he hasn't played much of a part in the main Mishima bloodline story since maybe T5 at the latest. I miss when Lee was viewed as Kazuya's only equal (besides Heihachi).
@@BrolyLSSJ01 Yeah he’s kinda just suffering in success
He’s rich as hell, but the Mishima’s are just screwing the world.
@@BrolyLSSJ01The Hei vs Kaz rivalry is long gone baby. That ended in T5 and always will be. Now its time for Lee vs Kaz back. Jin can have his rivalry with Hwaorang while Lee with Kaz
10:15 crazy comebacks from both sides!
This Lee got some serious SWAG.
Post the Lars who demoted your Kazuya. That Lars is wild
For realzz.. I hate streamers who can only upload wins but not their losses.
Always good to see Lee players, makes me wanna practice more too
Pls do Jin and Devil Jin breakdown
devil jin hell sweep got a slight nerf, but his uf4 is better, not s1 level still, db2 knock down on counter hit now. Jin got a nice new wall combo, but he lost his magic 4, it’s now just screw
@@davidchu2001 yup
@@davidchu2001 I would not call the hell sweep change a nerf. I'd rather have plus frames than a knockdown where the opponent can tech out of and obtain neutral position
You love to see lee !!
It would be cool if literally any youtuber can make a video discussing the tekken prowess a little more in depth considering it’s not that well known, maybe something explaining how it increases, or what you need to get different colors, I know that main man might’ve explained it already but I don’t think he talked about what some colors requirements are.
It’s true skill ranking, shows consistency s and more accurate than having a lucky day in ranked and get promoted
@@JinMasters ??? English please?
@@JinMasters No it doesn't really, the more you play, the more it'll go up, for the most part. Also be a higher rank, it'll go up more
@@slarsnel4527 you checking me for grammatical errors or what
@@valonzeneli4614 it also goes down if you lose
can"t wait for another video of MM
This is why Lee is still a probleme
15:44 what defines Lee!
I don't get The timming :(
@@leperique It takes months ,if not years, of practice. For the basic, you just need to get the 3rd and the last hits right. So input the first 2, listen to the sound, and condition yourself to tap the last 2 at the right timing. I believe we only get 3 frame window to get each input right.
This lee is great, doesn't rely on flowcharts and i have no idea what he's going to do next.
But barely uses the new move 'cuz its useless" and the new combo from D2 because it's incredibly unreliable to hit online.
Ah yes, the never ending battle between kazuya and Lee
Is it just me or do the graphics look better/different?🤔
And i thought it was only me seein those better shadows
I hope TMM uploads the Lars he played right before this lee, the Lars was really good and showcased his season 4 buffs but he was beating TMM quite a lot idk if he wants that on TH-cam lol
This has to be one of my favourite match-ups to watch
What does kazuya give to his adoptive brother?
DORYA!!!
Nah laset
As a Kazuya main, I wanna try playing Lee now.
8:50
Mustache-spider
That guy reminds me on the Aris roasted guy back then? Are they the same guy?
I hope that tekken 7 get the enhanced update with better lighting
Maybe this Lee would beat you more if he used ff4, it's got pretty good crushing properties.
Really bad frame advantage tho
@@LordMoebius I don't know if it's possible to stop a mishima spamming electrics but a ff+4 will at least get them to say bs and question spamming like a madman.
This Lee is a tekken omega rank already really!!! Dante in disguise lol! I've never seen these juggles!!! Shud customise him. He has the hair!
There’s an issue but you’ve noticed , i lost my fujin rank and i went back to seiryu
this guys sense of movement is crazy good
Wooo hooo another Lee main!
8:45 lmao Moustachespider does it again. He got shot on Aris' stream
I wish I could main Lee like that haha him and Hwarang have cleanest looking kicks in the game but too bad I can only use a few Mishima's only
lee is a moshima too.
@@johnynoway9127 Not quite a mishima, but almost, so I guess it's fair to call him a moshima.
I wanna know how the netcode is on ps4 and xbox hopefully its good. I never played ps4 tekken online cuz it sucked i mainly played with friends offline
It still suck
this lee is sick
So weird not see the mainman having Tgp status
And in a while he will have tekken god omega
That loading time though ha!
Who's the better Mishima?
Edit: Lee made Tekken 4 great.
After Law I play Lee he is just fun as fuck to play with.
damn, incredible matches. nice
I’m in Australia and i played against a player from Asia and holy shit the online improvement is too good there was not much lag it was as of i’m playing on a 3 or sometimes 4 bar connection.
Did anyone else tried playing against other region?
Also from Straya, played for hours last night against some people from Asia and even Europe. Holy crap it's so much better. Even against wifi warriors.
Just played USA from Europe with a 4 bar connection. Had some stutter but otherwise it was great
get this lee another go, good shit
This Lee is sick
Great fight
9:53 whats the move that Lee‘s doing when the round starts? Can‘t quite remember what it was
1+2
@@SAGEISKAMI thankles
@@SAGEISKAMI you maybe also know what that lil low kick is at 1:58?
@@Puginator21 full crouch df3
@@SAGEISKAMI thanks, btw are you a lee main or do you just know all his moves?
I would say I’m a somewhat advanced lee player, I do bigger combos but I haven’t mastered his b2 mist step cancels yet or anything like that
Can i see your combos?
How would I show u?
Thay mist step is a crucial part to his arsenal. The cancel into sway takes well times execution and practice. I've tried it online and its so risky, if you want to mix it up at range then sure. But you'll most likely never come out on top of a 50/50.
wow nice gamming online it has improved 😍😍.
did the rank revert back? his kazuya is tekken god prime isnt it?
Season 4 rank reset. I have Mighty Ruler and now only Genbu 🙂
Would you say he is insaneLee good?
The title is wrong..it should be : kazuya getting bullied for 32 mins.. excerrent Lee!!
What happened to the season pass on ps4? I don’t see anything in the store?
Comes out tmr
Fool, you only get the new moves update.
@@TheSidekickking lol
Can you do geese review?
Are we sure this isn't Imyourfather's smurf account ?
Father can't perform so much just frame acid rains punisher in a day session lol (:
@@thespeedforce3871 I know, you're jesting, but i'm pretty sure, he can.
Controversial opinion: I don't think the online experience is that much better so far in season 4 (at least for me). Been getting a lot of "5 bars" that actually feel like a 2-3 bar
Must be your connection
Video idea: Characters with best movement tier list
The one tier list Lars isn’t in D
Hi there
Make movie about Claudio
How's in season pass 4
No :)
He's a very cool character I think!..
His my main
But better if some pro player take a look on him.
However I Will check him out today
But I'm afraid about his nerffs
Why does his doriah sounds so much louder than mine
0:46 so is that SS cancel EWGF? Can every character do this relaibly? (Obviously not the EWFG) if so i gotta work on my evasion
its reliable if you got the skills for it. hint: most don't.
@@aztekenen1 sounds like just practice then
What the hell was that high by Lee at the end. He should have pressed 4.
Lol that's Shadowforce. The best Lee in UK definitely.
6.25. Back to back Acid Rains. Nuff said
you play fightingGM yet?
I did.
MM vs SLine? maybe 2 of my fav tekken youtuber? Xd
If someone can help me. I’m using xbox one controller, after the update my trigers are suuuuper sensitive if i even brush my finger it activates a move. Anyone know a solution. Before i had to pres it way down for it to register which is better. Now i accidentally press them without almost touching them
So I want to know is Leroy got a buffed or no
K-wiss made a video on it
th-cam.com/video/L0gqcrK9oeg/w-d-xo.html
I dont think he needs a buff hes broken enough
Why do I never see lee in tournaments?
He requires lots of execution to use, so he’s viewed as being too risky for consistent use in tournaments. Imo, I just think pros are afraid of the swag.
@@Machiavelli225Serious? Wow. I main Lee and almost never have a problem with him. My fav is the taekwondo kick he did haha
@@Love-Sensibility If Lee is your main, you can do quite well with him. But unless you’re as good as Iamyourfather, you’ll struggle in tournaments. Your execution will worsen the more matches you play. That’s why you’ll see characters with lower execution requirements more often than him.
How is he playing online with a different update?
He has the same update as everyone else he just has access to kuni and the new stage
Update is out
Omg I thought you were the Lee player the whole time until you it said you lost haha
2:07 how u do this electric?
just do a mirco dash after b3,1 to connect ewgf. you can do it my pressing forward one time and then performing a ewgf.
@@dawoodazhar8481 i have even did that didnt work!
This guy's the epitome of abusing +frames
But why does he keep sliding at range 4
The game looks so crisp now. Lee being able to do b2 cancels seamlessly is just a testament
Which reputable site can I buy tekken 7 online?
Steam
WHERE THE HELL MY STEVE MAINS AT?!
They nerfed lees damage like he needed that to balance him or something lol
Nice
Pelea con Devil Jin
FUJIN UDENRAKEN
why didnt they wait 2 more days for ps5? pretty stupid
wtd lee or law??? why he can use laws abiliti??
In Tekken 1 they had exactly the same moveset. So that's why their moves are similar in Tekken 7
@@heroce974 ok thx
Lee got some Law's and Paul's moves because Law and Paul trained Lee.
I want, no I need this showdown for TK8! Namco please lemme have it 🙏🏻
Someone is a little sassy 👁👃🏻👁
yeah that Fujin Uraken thingy doesn't look so useful here...
It's useful when your opponent is spamming side-step left in neutral everytime.
team lee
11:55 Paul got nerfed hard 100% they basically shit on his personality and this guy pretending as if he got buffs😂 what a fool. guess they listen to the whiners too much sometimes
Yea whatever man gottem
I think this lee player is from Pakistan
Hello there
Yo
Damn i’m first 😂
Lee is so stale pick wtf, from all the best, u wanna pick this Jin jr lol
Season4 sucks
S4 sucks already.
No difference with the connection, still getting hit by low launchers even though i press down-back right after the first couple frames of that low launcher on ps4.
Random guessing game that is.
Made a huge difference for me
Scrubquote.
It does work ur just wireless so everyone wired has been avoiding you.
Press?. Why not hold?
Teal ranks be like.
Post the Lars who demoted your Kazuya. That Lars is wild