Detailed look at broken Ecodisc

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  • @therealvbw
    @therealvbw ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good on you for leaving the lifts as you found them, without disrupting any repair work

  • @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch
    @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch ปีที่แล้ว +6

    KONE builds so nice and interesting elevators! Don't know any other brand with such nice motors as the EcoDisc, EcoReel, etc ...

  • @vrryan6
    @vrryan6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Ben for the video, I really enjoy videos like these where they really go in depth on the inner workings of parts of the lifts that you don't normally see as well as what the codes on those displays actually mean.

  • @kylekinghorn4509
    @kylekinghorn4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the 2nd lift, that's what happened to an otis 2000vf I know of, it would drive on manual mode and then when I put it on auto it kept emergency stopping. Most likely is a vf drive issue since that what happened on the otis lift. 1st lift probably is a shaft door issue.

  • @George-id5ie
    @George-id5ie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ben I love the detailed look videos. Keep them coming !! 👍🏻

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how it shows 'HELLO' on switch on. I wasn't expecting that. Yep, there's something seriously wrong with that one.

  • @hungrynapps
    @hungrynapps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok some advice..that lift with the 16. Errors ..doesn't need a new drive ..notice how many error 21 U have ..that is safety..which can be triggered if a shaft door is open also. And it can trigger 108..when the lift resets . Now the 170 errors could be someone resetting the power ..or supply power to the building being switched off often

  • @AndrewG1989
    @AndrewG1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good detail of the how to fix and solve Ecodisc lifts.

  • @BenDeSwert666
    @BenDeSwert666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the loose plug goes in the connector on top of the big PCB. its used to test the overspeed governor.

  • @isitworthit2912
    @isitworthit2912 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does the floor dot mean on the Ecodisc?

  • @asclepi
    @asclepi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you get past the maintenance lockout on the LCE (where it blocks almost all menus), or was that not necessary?

  • @George-id5ie
    @George-id5ie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Otis Gen2 at my work has broken down for the last 4 days. OTIS engineer has been in and out. I wonder whats up with it.

  • @pompey714
    @pompey714 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is it just me, but the pulsing frequency of the V3F drive sounded odd normally is sounds like deeeee but that sounded like deeedeeeedeeed.(herkuli)

  • @petunjukelektronikchannel
    @petunjukelektronikchannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bang itu lift nya problem apa maaf saya tidak bisa bahasa inggris

  • @mattheww3116
    @mattheww3116 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is a tacho please

    • @felixrwc816
      @felixrwc816 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tachos are devices that monitor the speed of the lift motor. They are needed for the VF drive to operate, normally.

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's also the name for the "cop in the cab" in lorries.
      It's a disc that records data and must be handed in to the authorities every day. Basically it makes sure that the driver doesn't break the rules, especially the one about taking rest stops so that we don't have sleepy truckers barreling down the M1.
      A pain, but a necessary one.
      (stands for Tachometer)

    • @mattheww3116
      @mattheww3116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JP_TaVeryMuch thank you

    • @mattheww3116
      @mattheww3116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@felixrwc816 thank you

  • @windowsxpnt2347
    @windowsxpnt2347 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Austin this is guys

    • @AndrewG1989
      @AndrewG1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey guys Austin is fixing the lift

    • @ReubenAshwell
      @ReubenAshwell ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey guys, Austin has a broken lift that needs fixing.

  • @LiftSurferRYEGI
    @LiftSurferRYEGI ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Academy lifts ruined those ecodiscs!

  • @juoig7799
    @juoig7799 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should really apply to be a qualified lift engineer. You'll make lots of £££, won't risk getting in trouble with the law, and the company will definitely hire you with just a bit of training considering your knowledge with lifts.

    • @benolifts
      @benolifts  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It is best to not mix hobbies and work. Plus I dislike the modern day lift industry. Most of it is about making money by selling cheap lifts and encouraging building owners to do unnecessary replacements rather than putting in the effort to keep old lifts going. Lifts are installed on the cheap and maintenance is over charged (many lift companies even admit to this practice), then the is the bait and switch practice of pressuring owners to have a shiny new lift, just for then to be told less than 10 years later that the lift is crap and need a new one. It also seems that the amount of engineers that understand relay logic to anything other than the most basic of systems is getting very rare, and it is only a couple of the older engineers that have been there a very long time who are skilled at it. New engineers are not trained in this subject. In 10 years time I can't see anyone being able to maintain one apart from a simple 1 call at a time single speed lift where the workings of it are so easy that an ordinary care taker could maintain it themselves. In fact, most of the last remaining relay lifts left are only kept due to the owner or caretaker having a personal love of the old lift. At present there is only a couple of DC generator multi speed relay lifts in existence, and only a couple of combined sets of relay lifts in existence. This is due to these two systems being complex and it is not obvious how to fix relay faults when they occur. Only an engineer with many years of experience can diagnose these. And every one of these complex lifts that I know of has at least one bug with it that has not been resolved in years. I can see these lifts becoming extinct within 10 years. And as for handful of caretakers who personally like their relay lift, these are usually old people. At an express lift in a small scale independent office building in Croydon, one time when I visited it a plaque appeared next to it saying that the caretaker had died, and it kind of mentioned that the caretaker had liked the old lift. Then just a couple of years later the lift was replaced. So people were willing to put up a plaque in his memory, but were not willing to keep the lift working in his memory, despite Express being the easiest relay lift to maintain. This sums up what attitudes towards lifts are like. I have no interest in being involved in the lift industry for a job. Plus lift engineers are censored and can't publicly express their opinions as that would risk loosing their job. Actually quite a few of the older lift engineers have openly admitted to me in private conversations that the new lifts they are installing are utter rubbish, although many other engineers are happy with the state of the industry as they have no pride and see it purely as a money making scheme.

    • @MitsubishiGTO
      @MitsubishiGTO ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benoliftsCroydon is so horrible that they would have done that anyway, and I agree with the idea of keeping work and hobbies separate.

    • @hungrynapps
      @hungrynapps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@benoliftsmy only complaints as a lift technician is..the info is becoming more widespread now...ten yrs ago.u couldn't find a elevator tutorial vid.. newer lifts are easier to trouble shoot..but more expensive to repair... because the parts are more replaceable than repairable.. and what makes it worse.in my country they send one tech to.work on a job and charge for two .. corporate greed

  • @avidtrainspotting
    @avidtrainspotting ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welp. That's what happens when bad companies maintain great lifts!

  • @woodsmic
    @woodsmic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disapointed that as a lift expert, you could not fix either of these 😞

    • @jingarjay8754
      @jingarjay8754 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sometimes hardware faults require hardware replacements. In the case of the 2nd lift, he already said that it most likely needs a new VFD.

    • @hungrynapps
      @hungrynapps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jingarjay8754most of the time ..U would get VFD faults flashing... sometimes the problem can be very simple ..

  • @nelsonahlvik6650
    @nelsonahlvik6650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fifth

  • @justinsoward4591
    @justinsoward4591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first!

  • @luisstransport
    @luisstransport ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First

  • @Iamneverreturning
    @Iamneverreturning ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They deserve to be broken they should just remove the lift and get the best lift company in the world and that is a ORONA

    • @hungrynapps
      @hungrynapps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never heard of them