Jose Taco I said the same thing & now I have made several picks and tensioner wrenches & can now unlock my house by picking the lock almost as fast as I can with the key. Plus, lock picking isn’t a bad skill to master. You never know when you’re going to have a brain fart and lock yourself out of your house.
Same thing with me. Im actually happy i found his channel. Having locked myself out of several things this overlooked skill could have saved some money. As others have said i could see this being a really addictive hobby like playing a guitar almost.
2023 here, he is now in prison for picking the nuclear vaults at the pentagon. He made it but was dissatisfied with his timings on picking the vaults open, and went for a second round and got caught.
I used a version of this lock to protect my shed... the police turned up before the people got through the lock because... people in my garden with a saw and drill attacking the lock caused too much noise and attention. Sadly they got away... but my shed was still secure, even though I had to replace the lock. Nothing protects you from the professional locksmiths
I guess they really wanted to get into your shed? Did it have anything that visually identified it as a target? Anything visibly valuable that could be seen through windows? Because otherwise surely a lock as beefy as this one would deter thieves unless they were really determined to steal something that they knew existed.
I leave mean comments I don’t know if this is the same lock. This one is the 37/80 and the one he said that was the 37rk/80. Now I have no idea if they are the same locks or not, maybe someone could answer that question.
Joe Abus changed the design multiple times, so I think you can‘t really tell from the outside. However the keys are different (pronounced taper towards the very end, more cuts since there are more disks, one with LED light) and the new variant comes with a code card that says something like Plus (tm) on it.
mrk vdr your intuitive reaction is what sells high security locks and drives the technology race. however, locks are made by people, therefore people can open them. "the race" is where insurance companies, lock experts, thieves, consumers etc. find meaning. the race will never end so long as there are competing parties. so, without starting to talk about communism, I will end my comment here.
The spacers are really important for the functioning of the lock. The spacers is notched to have them be stationary in the core. The aim of the spacers is to prevent a adjacent disc to rotate by friction (or goo in the lock gumming it up) when you turn the key, because that would make it impossible to open the lock. The spacers also are a bit springy, to avoid the core rattling, so the discs are under lateral spring tension.
The 8th disc is a butterfly disc. Newer cores also have a butterfly at the first position. These discs prevent tensioning because they can be turned one step too far and then block the sidebar. To circumvent this, one has do tensioning on the second disc from the front or the back. But then there's still the problem that the disc is on the wrong position when used to tension. I would love to see you pick an newer version. The Abus 88/50 or 89/50 can be bought cheap on ebay and also have a removable core. It would be also great to hear something about building detainer picks at home. Keep going with these interesting disc detainer locks!!!
So I got my 88/50. Butterfly rear and front...but annoyingly, the 2nd disc in is a 6 (I'd normally call this a 0) and drives the lock, so you can tension on that if you want. But I have picked it using rear tension and setting the butterfly disc last. This is pretty difficult. I have also picked it tensioning from the front, on the 2nd disc. I have also picked it from the front butterfly. If the 2nd disc were not a driving disc (and chances are, it won't be) then I have an easy way to still pick the lock. Thanks for the advice, this is a cool lock and was pretty cheap.
Very awesome that you picked this. I would say there are only a handful of people in the world who could stand a chance of picking this open. You are one of them.
As I get deeper and deeper into the archive I continue to be amazed at what disc-detainer tools looked like before LPL and Bosnian Bill made their own!
I've been looking at this lock for high value security. Many should know that any lock will do the job it is intended to do, but finding the right lock can be challenging. I like that this lock will buy some time, and may cause a burglar to move on to an easier target. Nothing is totally secure. A high value lock is useless if the burglar has the time and another part of the structure is weaker such as a wall. A $100.00 lock will not secure on a $20.00 harsp with a large window around the corner.
I really enjoy your videos. Have you seen aVe's channel? He takes apart various tools and gizmos and analyzes them the way do locks. He typically says "FOCUS YOU FUCK" to his camera whereas you said 'Come on, focus for me". You're his quieter, more mellow counterpart.
i'm super impressed with disc detainer locks, i think the mechanism is really elegant, and how they function together is very impressive, and quite an engineering feat to make sure all the discs line up just right with a key.... i also concour with the notion of if these parts are stamped by lower cost manufacturers, why don't they include false gates? my only reasonable conlustion is that the stamping process is too inacurate, and their dyes may not get to a finer depth, that any false gate, could simply act as a secondary gate, making it even easier to pick....
Remember, the video's are presented by a true EXPERT on the craft of lock picking! Not one "Crook" in a thousand is ever going to be able to duplicate his "Performance". If that on in a thousand "Crook" gets into my home, after sunset? It's going to be a very bad day; For him! Great demonstration! I enjoy all these videos!
+LockpickingLawyer To my knowledge, in the new series, the tensioning disc can be any, not necessarily the one in the back. You would have to either use a 3-part tool or switch the prong with wich you tensions while picking.
@LockPickingLawyer no videos on how to gut an 37/55 like the Sea & Snow model on TH-cam yet. So why not be the first. There are no screw under the shackle to hold the bottom plate and no obvious way to open it for a core swap.
Hi im a construction guy and just bought a box truck. Do you think that a padlock would be a good choice ? I was thinking about ABUS 83/80 i hope its going to fit. Or i have to buy some Heavy Duty Rolling Door Lock? . I would appreciate your professional opinion. Btw great videos!
@@metamorphicorder Be sure the PUCK orientation is DOWNWARD, and mounted such that little more than room to get the key in is available. Prevent attack of the core. Also, ABUS has a nice HASP that has an integrated disc type lock, so nothing to drop in the the snow and mud. AMERICAN has a puck hasp that you can bolt a hardened steel American A2010 Padlock to. This prevents dropping the heavy puck onto your foot.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 yep or you can stop by a machining shop at just before close with a six pack and have them braze or weld a leash on your locks and hasp assembly. Or pay them. Whichever. Ifn you cant do thay yourself
Almost exactly like Finnish Abloy Classic. Fine picking anyway. I have re-coded many Abloy locks and it is real fun to do. Almost all the door locks in Finland are Abloy branded.
You could often use 1 ford key to open another ford with a bit of wiggling. When at uni my friends and I used my cortina key to "steal" a girls escort and hide it in our garage. We literally had the door open in about 2 seconds and had it started just as quick. The girl of course didn't see the funny side of our joke. She burst into tears thinking her car had been stolen. :-D
"you simply couldn’t produce enough" i can bet you can use one screw to open it like in case of this padlock th-cam.com/video/Br0yR9eFAh8/w-d-xo.html its good quality padlock it was much easier with cheap DeFort...
Bialy, the Abus in this video has a hardened steel anti-drill disc at the front of the core. No hand turned (or even electrically driven) screw stands a chance against it, as the anti-drill disc is harder than any screw.
I was about to get this one because in the “top 10 heaviest and baddest” video you made you said the core of this one was some of the toughest ever to be picked and that it was beyond your abilities. That didn’t last for long ...
I was just looking at this one on amazon to see about it. My concern is the rental truck's mechanism such that I can use this lock or one another Abus lock to secure the cargo.
okay, what you are doing is really crazy specialism. Not the average joe kind of skills so to speak. Based upon your experience; whats your verdict on this lock? Is it good, or are there much better locks available to keep your motorcycle in your own posession? 😋
So it took you two and half minutes, and you are one of the best. I assume the lock ist picking resistant. As I use two locks on my bike with the X Plus-Core, it won't be stolen by picking regarding the 3 minutes rule.
LPL is the 2019 worlds best lock picker and has certification to prove it. Expert lock pickers and good to average lock pickers really have a hard time picking this lock. It's not good if they are at it for like 20 minutes, a lock has to be picked quick, a 5-minute time frame is really maximum! I have one of these expensive locks and am not pissed at all by this video. LPL is the worlds best, so don't fret.😋💨😀
I think the 88/40 and 88/50 still have the older design. I had one of mine apart last night and it has 9 disks. The first and last one are zero bitted and I think either one of them could be used to tension the lock. I have 2 88/40s that I know are new stock because they were out of stock when I ordered them and had to wait a few weeks to get them.
What disc detainer pick is this LPL. Amazing video! My only friendly advice on future videos is be sure to mention what the equipment is that you're using to pick the lock! Excellent work friend!
Hi, awesome channel. I was wondering if I can ship an abus granite lock to you to open . Had shipped my lock to Abus team in Arizona hoping to rekey & get a set of keys. Turns out they could not open & shipping it back to me saying a locksmith can open it replace core & new keys, not same keys though. Any hope for my luck to open ? Thanks in advance
I use that lock to secure my generator house. Question? Have you picked any Medeco locks? I’m curious? I don’t see any attempts on your channel? I have three Medeco deadbolts at my house. Unfortunately I can’t find any local locksmiths willing to install the last two deadbolts for my house? I live in Connecticut. Could you recommend a locksmith in CT. that would be interested in installing Medeco deadbolts?
Great vid. After watching this video and your earlier Top 10 biggest and baddest padlock compilation, I've decided (99%) on getting this lock. Per the Abus website, the 37/80's "RK: cylinder can be re-keyed to match an existing ABUS-Plus key". I'd love to have one keyed alike with my many Abus + core bike locks, but I can't find any info on the re-keying process. Would you please explain or make a video demonstrating how to re-key this lock? Thanks.
What if a lock manufacturer installed a vibrator that activated when a key or pick was inserted. Would this make a difference in a disk lock if they kept moving?
It would be interesting for TH-camrs to include the video's publication date in its title, since TH-cam hasn't shown it for a long time. Especially in videos like this where it is interesting to have a time reference. Thanks. Greetings.
The only way to get a seasoned pro like the LPL to not pick your lock is have a key guard welded on so he cant use that device he uses. I was thinking of having a 90 degree bend in a steel key, and having a key housing. No picks can get in it. I however have boughten a ABUS 20/70 Plus Core, I just hope its not the older one.
Also why not grind off the labels on the lock, even make a fake label on it. Like CNC or etch a name like Titalium or something. Could even make the outter dimensions different by adding some metal to the housing.
Are the shoulders not hollow? The 70 certainly was and bolt cropped when the shoulders shattered. If they are hollow 14mm isn’t enough to stop bolt cutters.
CONGRATS!!!!! I remember I wanted to send you a 20/80 Diskus and you said you couldn't pick it. Now, about that, there was one Disc Lock you couldn't do.... any plans for the clean sweep from the Disc Lock Series?
ganzonomy The old Abus plus core in this lock is very different from the new variants that are used today (in LPLs Diskus 20/70 also). Nowadays there is the Plus core and the X-Plus core. The 37 Granit series as well as some of the high end bike locks use the X-Plus core and locks such as the Diskus 20, 89 series brass padlocks and some medium security bike locks use the normal Plus core. Both cores tension from a random disk wich requires a specialized tool. And even if you have got that tool they are very, very difficult to pick. The normal Plus core has 6 (Abus 20/80) or 7 (89/50) disks, the X-Plus has 9 if I‘m not mistaken. Also the X-Plus appeares to can‘t tension unless the disks are lined up correctly wich would make it near impossible to pick but I‘m not sure about if and how that would work.
Is there a way to get one of these off without these tools? Lever bar or similar? Angle grinding is an option but I dont have a grinder. I have an abus granit lock on my old motorcycle chain (also abus) that I lost the key to. The chain cost quite a bit and I'd like to salvage it if possible. It's not attached to anything, just a lock on a chain.
That's amazing that you can pick this lock with the Abus plus core but what about the 20/70 or the 20/80 can you pick them also or not? and if not then why not and regarding if you can pick them or not do you believe they are quality locks worth purchasing and do you believe they are pretty secure and worth their purchase prices or not? In a prior video you said that you couldn't pick the 20/70 but I thought this lock above in this video had the same Abus plus core and I see you picking it right here on this video fairly easily so I guess I'm just a little bit confused and wondering if you could pick those two discus models with the same core or a similar core or not?
Great video! So awesome to see you pick this after seeing you once say it was beyond your ability. How would you say this compares to the Squire SS80CS in pick resistance as well as sturdiness against alternative entry methods (destructive, drilling, etc.)?
So I have an Avis 3780 lock that the kids have been lost to luckily the lock is not attached to anything how hard is it to drill the core out? As I took it to a locksmith and they wanted $300 to pick it
3 questions =) 1. Is there a way to tell between the old and new model before buying? 2. What do you think about the build material for the internals? 3. Which pick are you using? =)
Today I was thinking about the types of locks we have here in Germany. I don't know how it is in the US but we just use Pin tumblers for our houses (but slowly replaced by dimple locks) and cheap wafer locks for our mail boxes. I think most people around here don't even know what a disc detainer lock is. I've never heard about the Abus Granit series before I started watching your videos and as it turns out it's pretty well hidden on the german Abus website as well. If I look on Amazon this beast is really expensive. 70€ for the Granit 37/55 ... and you open it up in 3 minutes. I've never seen such a thing in real life yet. But I guess most people around here wouldn't invest that much money in a padlock. I definitely wouldn't do it so I assume Abus doesn't advertise it much. So how is it on your side of the world? Do you all use pin tumblers as well and disc detainer cores are for premium uses? The same goes for Lever locks. I've never actually seen one around here. Not even on pad locks. But maybe this is because it's older tech and I'm too young. From what I understand lever locks are most commonly used in Great Britain. I'm kinda interested in the history about why we use the lock types that we use now.
So I have watched a fair amount of your videos. I like your "as always have a nice day" It was a line that a guy that has since gone away used. Anyway.. I seeing that it appears that pretty much all locks can be picked at some point. Giving enough time it (a Lock) is pick able. So what would be a really good lock? I am in the process of moving in the near future (two months). So the way I will most likely move is a trailer that I load and lock. Then it shows up at my home in the other location. I want something secure, and know that someone most likely can not get into. The Abus in this video appears to be fairly safe, but you picked it. Does the locks that have a key that has the little dimples usually fairly secure?? I have a budget of about 150 if needed. Thank you so very much for your time, and any input that you can provide.
The Abus disk style locks are extremely difficult to pick. Just buy a newer version of the Abus 88 or 89/50 and know that a crook will be more likely to grind it off, or break into the truck by some other method. When a lock is as secure as the Abus, a determined thief will use some other method of entry.
I bought 3 of the 37/60 basically the same lock just a little smaller I feel good now to put them on my trailer it seems a lot of work to pick them even for a "pro"
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I don't plan on buying locks, picking locks, assembling or disassembling any locks, but I continue to watch all your videos.
Jose, Just wait, I think most of us were the same, yet I've bought a few sets of picks now, its addictive :)
Jose Taco I said the same thing & now I have made several picks and tensioner wrenches & can now unlock my house by picking the lock almost as fast as I can with the key. Plus, lock picking isn’t a bad skill to master. You never know when you’re going to have a brain fart and lock yourself out of your house.
Same thing with me. Im actually happy i found his channel. Having locked myself out of several things this overlooked skill could have saved some money. As others have said i could see this being a really addictive hobby like playing a guitar almost.
Its the innate facination of watching a master of a craft at work.
Jose Taco me too
Such a difference between this tool and the "one that Bosnian Bill and I made". Really brings it home how necessary that build was.
Your skill has increased dramatically, over the history of your channel. I reminder a time when you wouldn’t touch disc detainer locks.
Greetings from late 2019! And you should see him now ;-)
Scott Williams Greetings from the middle of 2020. Boy, do I have some stuff to tell you...
Ryan the Leg Lamp hey I’m from later 2020 it doesn’t get better
@@xXFluffyBunny29Xx 2021, he doin good
2023 here, he is now in prison for picking the nuclear vaults at the pentagon. He made it but was dissatisfied with his timings on picking the vaults open, and went for a second round and got caught.
I used a version of this lock to protect my shed... the police turned up before the people got through the lock because... people in my garden with a saw and drill attacking the lock caused too much noise and attention. Sadly they got away... but my shed was still secure, even though I had to replace the lock.
Nothing protects you from the professional locksmiths
They would have been better off sawing open the shed door lol
Is the 37/80kd drill proof
I guess they really wanted to get into your shed? Did it have anything that visually identified it as a target? Anything visibly valuable that could be seen through windows? Because otherwise surely a lock as beefy as this one would deter thieves unless they were really determined to steal something that they knew existed.
@@madewithreallemons That would have been a lot faster too.
@@dc8890 Perhaps the size & apparent quality of the lock itself made the would-be thieves believe his shed held something of value.
My heart stopped at 1:38
It's awesome going back and seeing the technique before the LPL/BB pick was made.
You mean... "The Pick That BosnianBill and I Made"
I had the same thought! And his hand looks so uncomfortable with this one, than the one he made'
That thing is huge!
In a previous video, you said this core was beyond your abilities. I guess you've been working on it. Amazing. Well done
I leave mean comments it’s actually very easy given the right tools and proper teacher.
I leave nice* comments
I leave mean comments I don’t know if this is the same lock. This one is the 37/80 and the one he said that was the 37rk/80. Now I have no idea if they are the same locks or not, maybe someone could answer that question.
Dylius01 that washis name
@@jeseniahernandez8795 I think he's trying to communicate with us
Looks like this is a good lock for storage sites. Most people wont have these tools and spend the time in a secured site picking this.
It is, and the new versions are even better.
LockPickingLawyer Is there a way to easily tell what the newer version looks like?
Joe Abus changed the design multiple times, so I think you can‘t really tell from the outside. However the keys are different (pronounced taper towards the very end, more cuts since there are more disks, one with LED light) and the new variant comes with a code card that says something like Plus (tm) on it.
Yeah. Plus you probably still want a locksmith to have a chance of opening it in case you lost the key,
LockPickingLawyer which version would you recommend KA, KD, or RK?
Once again, I'm amazed at the apparent ease with which you open such a formidable lock. Bravo!
I'm guessing it took him a lot longer the _first_ time he opened it.
It is only because he knows exactly how the lock works.
I agree Robert, LPL is of the Master lock picker caliber I believe. Absolutely fantastic.
There has to be a way to prevent lock picking.
mrk vdr your intuitive reaction is what sells high security locks and drives the technology race. however, locks are made by people, therefore people can open them. "the race" is where insurance companies, lock experts, thieves, consumers etc. find meaning. the race will never end so long as there are competing parties. so, without starting to talk about communism, I will end my comment here.
The spacers are really important for the functioning of the lock. The spacers is notched to have them be stationary in the core. The aim of the spacers is to prevent a adjacent disc to rotate by friction (or goo in the lock gumming it up) when you turn the key, because that would make it impossible to open the lock. The spacers also are a bit springy, to avoid the core rattling, so the discs are under lateral spring tension.
I think that is pretty obvious, but it doesnt matters for picking
fuckin nerd
You're on the road to being a great locksmith Sebastian.
took longer to pick with a good lock you are familiar with than a crappy lock you picked the first time. says a lot about the design.
I'd love for him to revisit this lock now that he's improved so much and has better tools for locks like this.
How long did it take you to pick it the first time?
A tool I’ve never seen. A word I’ve never heard you use: mushy. And a lock that wasn’t pathetically easy to open. Amazing video 👏
The 8th disc is a butterfly disc. Newer cores also have a butterfly at the first position. These discs prevent tensioning because they can be turned one step too far and then block the sidebar. To circumvent this, one has do tensioning on the second disc from the front or the back. But then there's still the problem that the disc is on the wrong position when used to tension. I would love to see you pick an newer version. The Abus 88/50 or 89/50 can be bought cheap on ebay and also have a removable core. It would be also great to hear something about building detainer picks at home. Keep going with these interesting disc detainer locks!!!
Christian Weller Butterfly?
Because of the butterfly shaped hole in the centre.
Are the models you listed there definitely the ones with the newest cores? With butterflies front and rear?
I possess one Abus 88/50 which definitely has butterfly discs in front and rear.
So I got my 88/50. Butterfly rear and front...but annoyingly, the 2nd disc in is a 6 (I'd normally call this a 0) and drives the lock, so you can tension on that if you want. But I have picked it using rear tension and setting the butterfly disc last. This is pretty difficult. I have also picked it tensioning from the front, on the 2nd disc. I have also picked it from the front butterfly. If the 2nd disc were not a driving disc (and chances are, it won't be) then I have an easy way to still pick the lock.
Thanks for the advice, this is a cool lock and was pretty cheap.
Wow, I've never seen a disk detainer gutted, nice to see the insides LPL! One of these days I gotta get some picking supplies and finally start!
Very awesome that you picked this. I would say there are only a handful of people in the world who could stand a chance of picking this open. You are one of them.
As I get deeper and deeper into the archive I continue to be amazed at what disc-detainer tools looked like before LPL and Bosnian Bill made their own!
I see the progress You've made over all these years (in all areas of tools, video, and Your skills). This is impressive.
It is like watching Nokia 5110 in action. 😄 I'm glad that you and Bill made something more appealing.
Super informative, as usual, thank you! Just bought the current version of the Granit 37/55 as my first "nice" lock.
Bruh why is this lock so complicated to take apart
“Made in germany”
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German here: i approve this comment
@@Gulliolm Hitler.
@@eriklarson9137 what about him?
@@Gulliolm He would have approved this comment also.
@@Gulliolm hello fellow German
I've been looking at this lock for high value security. Many should know that any lock will do the job it is intended to do, but finding the right lock can be challenging. I like that this lock will buy some time, and may cause a burglar to move on to an easier target.
Nothing is totally secure. A high value lock is useless if the burglar has the time and another part of the structure is weaker such as a wall.
A $100.00 lock will not secure on a $20.00 harsp with a large window around the corner.
I'd watch you do a "first time pick" on one of these locks.
What a wonderful job picking this lock. I just got mine today and I may watch this video several times to get educated. Thank you 🙏
I use Abus Plus core locks on both my motorbikes, and its encouraging to see how tricky they are to pick!
I really enjoy your videos. Have you seen aVe's channel? He takes apart various tools and gizmos and analyzes them the way do locks. He typically says "FOCUS YOU FUCK" to his camera whereas you said 'Come on, focus for me". You're his quieter, more mellow counterpart.
Insurance rates everywhere went up when this video was released lol.
Hooray for the metric system.
i'm super impressed with disc detainer locks, i think the mechanism is really elegant, and how they function together is very impressive, and quite an engineering feat to make sure all the discs line up just right with a key....
i also concour with the notion of if these parts are stamped by lower cost manufacturers, why don't they include false gates? my only reasonable conlustion is that the stamping process is too inacurate, and their dyes may not get to a finer depth, that any false gate, could simply act as a secondary gate, making it even easier to pick....
Worlds Best Security 🔓
LPL : hold my disc detainer
And this was before the new disc detainer pick...
Remember, the video's are presented by a true EXPERT on the craft of lock picking!
Not one "Crook" in a thousand is ever going to be able to duplicate his "Performance".
If that on in a thousand "Crook" gets into my home, after sunset?
It's going to be a very bad day; For him!
Great demonstration! I enjoy all these videos!
I started to think I was at the dentist when he began picking the lock!
Damn, that tool you used looked interesting albeit a little crude. If only bosnianbill and you were to makea more refined version...
LPL - This is tricky to pick.
Me - I am buying that lock!
That's a nice lock. I've decided not to judge locks on how LPL and some others pick them with ease. They are just real good at it from mucho practice.
No lock is 100% secure, they just delay time or are too hard to even care about
+LockpickingLawyer To my knowledge, in the new series, the tensioning disc can be any, not necessarily the one in the back. You would have to either use a 3-part tool or switch the prong with wich you tensions while picking.
The LPL has incredible dexterity and sensitivity, it's mesmerizing.😳
@LockPickingLawyer no videos on how to gut an 37/55 like the Sea & Snow model on TH-cam yet. So why not be the first. There are no screw under the shackle to hold the bottom plate and no obvious way to open it for a core swap.
Great video. Love the disassembly
Holly smoke! If this guy cannot get in your house, he will probably find a reason to sue you for locking your own house.
This is just amazing....
Another great vid. Thanks for posting these.
Great video, not really able to visualize what you were doing but I understand the concept. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for showing us an excellent lock like this.
The new ones cant be disassembled. The pin is replaced with 2 allen screws that get a hardened steel ball bearing pressed into them after assembly.
Hi im a construction guy and just bought a box truck. Do you think that a padlock would be a good choice ? I was thinking about ABUS 83/80 i hope its going to fit. Or i have to buy some
Heavy Duty Rolling Door Lock? . I would appreciate your professional opinion. Btw great videos!
For the money you would spend a high quality puck lock, if it would fit the hasps or latches on your truck might be a good idea.
@@metamorphicorder Be sure the PUCK orientation is DOWNWARD, and mounted such that little more than room to get the key in is available. Prevent attack of the core. Also, ABUS has a nice HASP that has an integrated disc type lock, so nothing to drop in the the snow and mud. AMERICAN has a puck hasp that you can bolt a hardened steel American A2010 Padlock to. This prevents dropping the heavy puck onto your foot.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 yep or you can stop by a machining shop at just before close with a six pack and have them braze or weld a leash on your locks and hasp assembly. Or pay them. Whichever. Ifn you cant do thay yourself
Look up bossnianbill high security locks. He goes through the good ones.
You should have a go at the abus granit 8008 disk lock. Really curious to see it since they say it’s one of the most secure disk locks out there.
Almost exactly like Finnish Abloy Classic. Fine picking anyway. I have re-coded many Abloy locks and it is real fun to do. Almost all the door locks in Finland are Abloy branded.
Great picking brother. Love the Abus Ganite lock body,thanks for sharing
Reminds me of the old lock systems Ford (in europe) has used. They could be opened with a screwdriver and brute force though
You could often use 1 ford key to open another ford with a bit of wiggling. When at uni my friends and I used my cortina key to "steal" a girls escort and hide it in our garage. We literally had the door open in about 2 seconds and had it started just as quick.
The girl of course didn't see the funny side of our joke. She burst into tears thinking her car had been stolen. :-D
No chance on this one, you simply couldn’t produce enough for by your won to open it!
"you simply couldn’t produce enough" i can bet you can use one screw to open it like in case of this padlock th-cam.com/video/Br0yR9eFAh8/w-d-xo.html its good quality padlock it was much easier with cheap DeFort...
Biały
I don’t think it would work... this locks are incredible robust!
Bialy, the Abus in this video has a hardened steel anti-drill disc at the front of the core. No hand turned (or even electrically driven) screw stands a chance against it, as the anti-drill disc is harder than any screw.
I was about to get this one because in the “top 10 heaviest and baddest” video you made you said the core of this one was some of the toughest ever to be picked and that it was beyond your abilities. That didn’t last for long ...
newer models changed up the design.
Ghorda9 Meaning, for the better or the worse?
I was just looking at this one on amazon to see about it. My concern is the rental truck's mechanism such that I can use this lock or one another Abus lock to secure the cargo.
This is the video that made me buy this lock.
okay, what you are doing is really crazy specialism. Not the average joe kind of skills so to speak. Based upon your experience; whats your verdict on this lock? Is it good, or are there much better locks available to keep your motorcycle in your own posession? 😋
I also need a good lock for my scooter. Let me know which one you get!
I like to listen to your videos while I try to sleep
A gem from the days before The Pick That BosnianBill And I Made, first of its name
One of the best paddocks without spending crazy money They can be got used on Ebay too. Along with Abloy my favourite padlock
Just bought this. It weighs over a kilo! Sadly it won't fit in the lock box on the shipping container I wanted to lock with it!!
So it took you two and half minutes, and you are one of the best. I assume the lock ist picking resistant. As I use two locks on my bike with the X Plus-Core, it won't be stolen by picking regarding the 3 minutes rule.
LPL is the 2019 worlds best lock picker and has certification to prove it. Expert lock pickers and good to average lock pickers really have a hard time picking this lock. It's not good if they are at it for like 20 minutes, a lock has to be picked quick, a 5-minute time frame is really maximum! I have one of these expensive locks and am not pissed at all by this video. LPL is the worlds best, so don't fret.😋💨😀
i got abus steelochain with plus core 🙏🙏
I think the 88/40 and 88/50 still have the older design. I had one of mine apart last night and it has 9 disks. The first and last one are zero bitted and I think either one of them could be used to tension the lock. I have 2 88/40s that I know are new stock because they were out of stock when I ordered them and had to wait a few weeks to get them.
What disc detainer pick is this LPL. Amazing video! My only friendly advice on future videos is be sure to mention what the equipment is that you're using to pick the lock!
Excellent work friend!
Well LPL, when you started picking disc detainers, you sure didn't cut any corners! VERY nice job!
Link for the pick? Searched but cant find it?
Hi, awesome channel. I was wondering if I can ship an abus granite lock to you to open . Had shipped my lock to Abus team in Arizona hoping to rekey & get a set of keys. Turns out they could not open & shipping it back to me saying a locksmith can open it replace core & new keys, not same keys though. Any hope for my luck to open ? Thanks in advance
I use that lock to secure my generator house.
Question? Have you picked any Medeco locks? I’m curious? I don’t see any attempts on your channel? I have three Medeco deadbolts at my house. Unfortunately I can’t find any local locksmiths willing to install the last two deadbolts for my house? I live in Connecticut. Could you recommend a locksmith in CT. that would be interested in installing Medeco deadbolts?
Spiffing, Absolutely Spiffing!!!
2.5 minutes in LPL time is like 10 years for a human !
Great vid. After watching this video and your earlier Top 10 biggest and baddest padlock compilation, I've decided (99%) on getting this lock. Per the Abus website, the 37/80's "RK: cylinder can be re-keyed to match an existing ABUS-Plus key". I'd love to have one keyed alike with my many Abus + core bike locks, but I can't find any info on the re-keying process. Would you please explain or make a video demonstrating how to re-key this lock? Thanks.
What if a lock manufacturer installed a vibrator that activated when a key or pick was inserted. Would this make a difference in a disk lock if they kept moving?
Why not just install a high-voltage shock unit and ZAP potential burglars before they start picking? :-DD
@@stepheneyles2198 he asked a serious question. Why do you ruin everything. You always do that.
@@stepheneyles2198 yes, but the key has to have a rubber handle, to prevent the owner of the padlock from getting shocked.
Could you share the details on the manufacturer of your pick? I love the size of it and think something like that would work better with my hands
so amazon says theres a version of this lock that is keyed and combination, however, I cant confirm that its a combo lock.
It would be interesting for TH-camrs to include the video's publication date in its title, since TH-cam hasn't shown it for a long time. Especially in videos like this where it is interesting to have a time reference. Thanks. Greetings.
The only way to get a seasoned pro like the LPL to not pick your lock is have a key guard welded on so he cant use that device he uses. I was thinking of having a 90 degree bend in a steel key, and having a key housing. No picks can get in it. I however have boughten a ABUS 20/70 Plus Core, I just hope its not the older one.
Also why not grind off the labels on the lock, even make a fake label on it. Like CNC or etch a name like Titalium or something. Could even make the outter dimensions different by adding some metal to the housing.
Brilliant!
Are the shoulders not hollow? The 70 certainly was and bolt cropped when the shoulders shattered. If they are hollow 14mm isn’t enough to stop bolt cutters.
CONGRATS!!!!! I remember I wanted to send you a 20/80 Diskus and you said you couldn't pick it. Now, about that, there was one Disc Lock you couldn't do.... any plans for the clean sweep from the Disc Lock Series?
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The old Abus plus core in this lock is very different from the new variants that are used today (in LPLs Diskus 20/70 also).
Nowadays there is the Plus core and the X-Plus core.
The 37 Granit series as well as some of the high end bike locks use the X-Plus core and locks such as the Diskus 20, 89 series brass padlocks and some medium security bike locks use the normal Plus core.
Both cores tension from a random disk wich requires a specialized tool. And even if you have got that tool they are very, very difficult to pick. The normal Plus core has 6 (Abus 20/80) or 7 (89/50) disks, the X-Plus has 9 if I‘m not mistaken.
Also the X-Plus appeares to can‘t tension unless the disks are lined up correctly wich would make it near impossible to pick but I‘m not sure about if and how that would work.
@@BL-yj2wp the granit has a seven disc plus, the 20 diskus has a 6 disc plus. I have both, and love them.
Core looks very good resistance. I think Squire locks are better, shackle is more resistant with boron.
you are ACE ! Gratz !!!
Is there a way to get one of these off without these tools? Lever bar or similar? Angle grinding is an option but I dont have a grinder. I have an abus granit lock on my old motorcycle chain (also abus) that I lost the key to. The chain cost quite a bit and I'd like to salvage it if possible. It's not attached to anything, just a lock on a chain.
Great job as usual. This padlock looks like my Artago 68, a spanish high quality padlock.
You are a pro!
Is this lock secure enough for locking apartments..or it the lock picker tool in the video common with burglars?
Quality padlock, but if I use one on my motorcycle the thieves will just cut the chain. shorly the padlock is only as good as the chain. ?
Wouldn't adding false gates on a worse quality metal result in them eventually becoming true gates with normal use wear?
That's amazing that you can pick this lock with the Abus plus core but what about the 20/70 or the 20/80 can you pick them also or not? and if not then why not and regarding if you can pick them or not do you believe they are quality locks worth purchasing and do you believe they are pretty secure and worth their purchase prices or not? In a prior video you said that you couldn't pick the 20/70 but I thought this lock above in this video had the same Abus plus core and I see you picking it right here on this video fairly easily so I guess I'm just a little bit confused and wondering if you could pick those two discus models with the same core or a similar core or not?
Thanks for enabling the growing community of criminals out there!
Great video! So awesome to see you pick this after seeing you once say it was beyond your ability.
How would you say this compares to the Squire SS80CS in pick resistance as well as sturdiness against alternative entry methods (destructive, drilling, etc.)?
So I have an Avis 3780 lock that the kids have been lost to luckily the lock is not attached to anything how hard is it to drill the core out? As I took it to a locksmith and they wanted $300 to pick it
The 37/80 was created in 1997. it was the strongest padlock, way ahead of its time
Can you tell me some recent padlock better than abus 37/80?
@@andreyoung7931 Multlock NE14H
Are there any cutaway or clear disc detainer locks or examples to show how the discs are moved for picking? I can't seem to grasp how they work.
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Schuyler Towne using similar tool on Abloy .. part 2 so there is severl clips
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Thanks for the video!!
Nice one LPL! But did that bad lock bite your finger??? :-)
3 questions =)
1. Is there a way to tell between the old and new model before buying?
2. What do you think about the build material for the internals?
3. Which pick are you using?
=)
You make it look easy.
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Today I was thinking about the types of locks we have here in Germany. I don't know how it is in the US but we just use Pin tumblers for our houses (but slowly replaced by dimple locks) and cheap wafer locks for our mail boxes. I think most people around here don't even know what a disc detainer lock is.
I've never heard about the Abus Granit series before I started watching your videos and as it turns out it's pretty well hidden on the german Abus website as well. If I look on Amazon this beast is really expensive. 70€ for the Granit 37/55 ... and you open it up in 3 minutes. I've never seen such a thing in real life yet. But I guess most people around here wouldn't invest that much money in a padlock. I definitely wouldn't do it so I assume Abus doesn't advertise it much.
So how is it on your side of the world? Do you all use pin tumblers as well and disc detainer cores are for premium uses?
The same goes for Lever locks. I've never actually seen one around here. Not even on pad locks. But maybe this is because it's older tech and I'm too young.
From what I understand lever locks are most commonly used in Great Britain.
I'm kinda interested in the history about why we use the lock types that we use now.
i don't think disc detainers are common anywhere.
@@Ghorda9 very common in finland
So I have watched a fair amount of your videos. I like your "as always have a nice day" It was a line that a guy that has since gone away used. Anyway.. I seeing that it appears that pretty much all locks can be picked at some point. Giving enough time it (a Lock) is pick able. So what would be a really good lock? I am in the process of moving in the near future (two months). So the way I will most likely move is a trailer that I load and lock. Then it shows up at my home in the other location. I want something secure, and know that someone most likely can not get into. The Abus in this video appears to be fairly safe, but you picked it. Does the locks that have a key that has the little dimples usually fairly secure?? I have a budget of about 150 if needed. Thank you so very much for your time, and any input that you can provide.
The Abus disk style locks are extremely difficult to pick. Just buy a newer version of the Abus 88 or 89/50 and know that a crook will be more likely to grind it off, or break into the truck by some other method. When a lock is as secure as the Abus, a determined thief will use some other method of entry.
Thank you so very much..
Do you have lock with abus x-plus
I bought 3 of the 37/60 basically the same lock just a little smaller I feel good now to put them on my trailer it seems a lot of work to pick them even for a "pro"
Picking never happens in real life. Thieves are dumb as fuck. just get the toughest lock out there and you're good to go
would it make sense to lubricate internals enough to help muting the movement of each plate when lock is being picked?
Does the ABUS Granit 37/60 use the same core, just in a smaller package?