Historic Pocket Door fix- How to get your doors working again
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Brent tackles pocket doors on historic houses. Pocket doors are beautiful and iconic but what if they're stuck. Brent will take you through the workings of a pocket door so that you can get yours working.
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I just love old pocket doors!!!!!! Adds so much character to a house! And worth the occasional headache of adjustments lol.
So true.
Brent Hull, I wanted to say thank you for all your sharing of knowledge here. I have watched many of your videos and wanted to personally thank you for your pocket door videos. I am working on my own house, a1907 four square in Toledo Ohio. But I also volunteer time to save an old 1907 Gothic, Spanish, Four Square mixed style house. (It really is a mix of 3 or 4 styles). I have put in the basement beam, took my time, and started working on the floor above. Specifically, the pocket door wall. I found the two original pocket doors to the house, 32" each and the two tracks, 66" each. I built the two walls, 2x4 standard build with header and proper support over the load carrying beam below, and the non weight bearing where I turned the 2x4s 90 degrees to get the "thinner wall." As I close out today, I left the project with sliding doors all working. Those old rails needed cleaning but are still many times better than the new stuff, and the wood wheels on the original doors are working well. I will tighten up some adjustments tomorrow and possibly drywall sooner than later, I don't want the electrician thinking it is a chase to pass wire in. I am proud of my work and took on a task nobody else felt able to do. With you, I can save this old house and I want you to know some of us here are forever grateful. Be blessed and be well good sir.
So glad to hear it. Sounds like a wonderful project. Cheers.
Thanks for your explanation. I have old style pocket doors between our Living and Dining room. The house was built in 1926 but I have not been able to figure how to get them out to adjust them because of settling. Now you have given me the key to making it happen. Thanks for sharing.
That is awesome! Good luck
The historic "pocket door" is tracked and hung within two completely studded walls. A whole lot different than our modern construction of a ready-made framed box.
Great video Brent.
Very true. Thx
Thanks for sharing, Brent.
I'm a Hull watching a Hull tell more how to fix the pocket door in my 1910 historic farm home. If you're a descendent of George Hull (1590-1658), the first Hull in the Americas...then, "Hi Cuz!" 😂
Nice. My Hull's got here later.
That 8’ is amazing. Must weigh a ton. And the amount of wall space required for the pocket! Simple? On the surface.
True.
Love pocket doors. Great tutorial.
Thanks so much 😊
Great straight forward explanation. Please keep doing it this way. Thank you!
Good to hear. Thanks.
Thanks for the help! I'm heading to look at a pair of old ones today.
Glad I could help! Good Luck.
Cool episode.
Thanks.
I love pocket doors. Good weight good size. Great way to close off a room. Great access to a room without having to take up room inside the room on in the hall with the door. Only ones I don’t like are the mid-late 20th century ones with the slats and hallow bottom panel.
Right on
Thank you! I have pocket doors needing adjustment.
Glad I could help!
Can you make a video of how you would solve the removing of paint in the mahogany room
Good idea. Yes. Thanks.
Great info
Glad it was helpful!
Appreciate the info. Would love to see how you take them down, if you do.
Sure thing!
Damn. I have a single door pocket door that's stuck. I was hoping for a magic bullet lol. Looks like I'll have to take some stuff apart. Thank you for the explanation and what to look for!
Thanks for watching. Good luck.
Repairing a pocket door tomorrow.
Nice. Good luck.
@Brent I need a follow up video on how you got that last pocket door back up on it's track!!! My beautiful antique pocket door from 1911 fell off its track last night (just like the one at the end of this video) and I am devastated. How did you get that one back on?! Were you able to do it without opening the wall up?!
Nope. We had to open the walls, sadly.
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I recently repaired some 120 something year old French pocket doors. When the own bought the home both of the doors were missing along with the wheels and brackets. We found the original doors with a neighbor but not the wheels and brackets. We then found some wheels and brackets that didn't work for the track. Eventually I ended up removing the casing and removing both tracks and made frames to fit new pocket doors tracks on them and stuff them into the wall and screw them in place. The doors work fine now but I feel like $600 is too low. Did I low ball myself and how much should I have charged? Plus the cost of repair cracks, sanding and staining the original doors that are 8ft tall, 2 1/2 inches thick, 30 inches wide, and roughly 100lbs each.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video on pocket doors! I've been trying to get my old pocket doors to line up in the center and see no adjustment screw like in your video, there is also no track on the ground (they just kind of dangle from the rails on flat metal connectors with no visible adjustment screw) - any suggestions to adjust doors without a screw like that? All I see up there is a flat metal piece connecting to a roller with four wheels on each side of the door (eight total per door). Have quite a few picture in a Google Photo Album I could share if that helps. Glad I found your channel, hope to learn more to keep this old house looking great!
It must be a newer model. You can send pics to info@brenthull.com
@@BrentHull I got as good a pics I could with it being up in that hole - and I did email (after I saw your second video on the pocket door hardware and your email at the end of it). Any info you may have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your content, time and efforts! I might be able to get some better pics with a probe camera I can borrow from work ill send them as well if I can get em tonight.
Gorgeous house and cool to see the inner workings of pocket doors. Wish I could install one, but the wall is a supporting wall. There was evidence (a pin on the upper part of the door frame) that there was a swinging door between the kitchen and DR so I am thinking of putting one back. Any advice? And I was dying to strip the paint off that one set of pocket doors!
Go back with the swinging door. Great historical precedent. Good luck.
Any experience with pocket doors that have a scissor support and spring mechanism? I have a home I have been working on and it has this type of pocket door in need of repair and I have been struggling to find information on them or someone who has knowledge working with them..
Hm, I've never seen that. Sorry.
I would love to remake our 1950's hollow core pocket doors with my own handmade doors. But, I don't want to tear out walls. :(
Yea, that is a tough one, you can always take of the trim and side jamb. That should give you enough access. Good luck.
My 100 year old pocket door just fell off the track and I am going to have to open up the wall to get to it. I wish i knew what i was doing
you can do it.
How'd it go?? Did you have to open up the wall in the end??
I've got a 5' single pocket door that's come off the track. I'm really hoping to not have to take out the wall to get to it.
I hear you.
Unfortunately our pocket door has a door stop in the middle of the tracks. No visible screws. Any clues on taking the stop out to get to the back of the doors?
Sometimes you can lift your door over a stop. Other times the stop needs to be removed. Look for screws to remove the stop.
@BrentHull ended up that the some trim pieces were covering the screws for the stop had to take them off.
I have this same door but tons of cold air comes in.
How can l fix that
Hmm, sounds like a wall issue not a door issue.
Okay but what about if your pocket doors are one big solid door that you can’t get to the back? I don’t have two that slide together to close, I have one large one for each doorway that closes to the other side of the door frame. I have to somehow get the door out of the wall in order to see into the other side, and I’m not entirely sure it’s possible.
I also need to get into the frame and take the door out completely so I can replace the rolling hardware that broke.
Well unfortunately, you are going to have to carefully disassemble one side. Trim first and see if you can take one wheel off and then slide the door out. That is hard. We have the same issue.
@@BrentHullIf I change out the tracks to the new Johnson system, is there a way to do that without cutting into my walls?
Don’t forget to vacuum out the pockets while you have the doors off the tracks.
Noted. Thanks.
Hi, we have doors similar to this but with inlaid glazing. We want to take them out to have them refurbished - do we have to dismantle the whole framework or is there a lift and tip method?😅
Your probably going to have to take off the top casing (not the sides) and then you can take it out. Good luck.
@@BrentHull thanks! We started a little exploration this weekend 😅 the door is from 1912-ish so lots of dust and plaster. Looks like the top casing will have to come out as you said. Hopefully we’ll get away with just that as I fear we’ll get into a very crumbly wall and a bit of a can of worms if we start on the sides 🫣
I have a single door with the hardware you have. Unfortunately the wheels squeak really loud. I tried to spray lubricant but that only lubed the track, not the hub/axle. I can not slide the trollies off of the end or lower one side of the track to slide them out. Any suggestions?
You're going to have to remove trim and do a little more invasive surgery. Sorry.
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Gosh Dog It !!!
Haha, ouch.
Gosh doggit? We know what you were thinking. You’re self discipline is commendable.
Haha. Thx