Wow, when I went to boot camp in 1976 we were still learning to use the same and I mean the same packs you see John Wayne carrying in the sands of Iwo Jima, even the horse shoe shaped blanket wrapped with the shelter half. only thing we didn't have was the wooden handled E-tool. Semper Fi !!!
Haversack with blanket role and shelter half and intrenching tool !! Better known as 782 gear Ooorha Semper Fi till I Die Brothers and Sisters !!! 69 - 73
@@NAMVETSTARLITE 40-50 years is a good time before upgrading military equipment look at the alice pack and m16 or even the k98 if we are talking germans
As a civilian who needed to set his surplus FILBE up for non-manlet heights - i appreciate this video. As that same civilian who watched it, forgot entirely about sizing it and had to come back to relearn everything - i feel i might of made a decent crayon eater.
The most in depth ILBE video out there that I've seen so far! I was even feeling the nodding as I flashed back to death by power point instructional videos.
I started in the Marine Corps with the ALICE pack.. ended with the FILBE pack.. every old man saying the Alice pack was the best is the reason they're going to the VA for knee and back pain..
Crap that makes me feel really old. All we had was our 782 gear that dated back to Korea and some back to WW II. I was out of the Marine Corps before elements of the ALICE gear started to appear. Okay, old Marine guy time -- bunch of slackers needing things like a frame to carry their gear. I have become such an old salt that I can remember when Christ was a corporal. Semper fi y'all.
Guess I'm Old too. "Doffing" your gear?? when was this word invented. We use to just say " Don't Be The Last One" We all knew what that meant. Semper Fi Marines.
Christ was then, and always has been King. and frames keep the Marines back servicable and ready fpr battle and also keeps you ready for the 1st civ div when you do eventually E.A.S. we're you even a grunt? only guys who use the pack as seen in this video are Grunt's Recon, Marine raiders {heard of them?} Artillery L.A.R., or amtrackers perhaps Anglico and a few other units. but most air wingers or motor "T" Marines will rarely use their pack as seen here. that doesnt make em any less of a Marine. anyone who earned the title is a U.S. Marine and thats good enough to be deployed and do your job in peace time or war time. a Marine is a Marine regardless of when he joins. just serve with Honor.
These are exactly what they use at boot camp now, I've never touched the predecessor but this pack has a lot of points of contact. Hip, shoulders, and sternum. As long as your gear is packed tight and comfortably (nothing hard stabbing into your back), each strap is tight, and move the shoulder buckles to the higher locations ... I've jumped and ran with these packs no problem. That 10 mile hike was a breeze.
Might want to check Miramar’s issue point they give the pack to you unassembled. From the beginning of this video I knew I was going to hate my life when he said “it should already be assembled”
Giacomo Ravina There is a main pack and assualt pack. Main pack sleeping system and assualt pack is for recon. Most people none military would have no idea how much we carry . This Advanced from Old school we carried 150 lbs and up of gear on standard operating . These new packs place all the weight on the hips and radio size and weight is a fraction of what I use to carry at 80 lbs on top of the assualt and main pack . Now imagine carrying around a 30 lb weapon in a no slinged postion. Developed a pair of guns real quick .
Nothing wrong with you . Just imagine when I was in the military there was no taller setting for a pack system . Stuck with a rig designed for a 5'5" person at 6'1". Had to learn to pad the pack with duck tape and foam .
Giacomo Ravina Also it was usually 100 + out and your watching a recruiter that was less than half size of all infantry personal wondering how he got past basic training in a non air conditioning building sweating and trying to keep your eyes open . That video was the last of your worries . Yes these videos are for stupid ppl . Watching 4 times cause guy has mono tone voice . Never puts emphasis on the important part of assembly . Worse than watching a air plan video on how to exit the air craft .
Damn, it's crazy that y'all have smart phones. As a boot lance in 2006, I had to borrow a buddies flip phone until my lady friend out of Temecula was kind enough to put me on her parents family's plan. We had Internet but it was limited to the ps 2/Xbox or laptops, even psp's
These packs are not as great as they’re claimed to be. They have a lot of play in the top of the pack when worn and will shift side to side when walking. You can find much better equipment at bass pro shop.
I know that with recent times a lot of us have forgotten, but remember that to be camouflage, something needs only to help conceal you. Camouflage doesn't require multiple colors or patterns. I would agree that MARPAT is superior to a solid coyote brown, but remember that World War II and Vietnam era olive drab still conceals, just as the World War I era khaki uniforms did too. Coyote is the only color found in both MARPAT patterns. It's a beautiful system. I'd choose coyote over ACU any day.
When these were first getting issued I hated them. I liked the marpat pack so much better Seeing this video now, it’s much better than the ILBE was i believe
I, by far, prefer the ILBE. It is far more comfortable, and it puts the weight on your hips, where it belongs. Its design is much better for anyone that knows where to stack weight in a ruck.
I had an ALICE pack. I think I would have had a seizure trying to figure this out. Though I remember testing Gen 1 of the MOLLE frame and breaking a bunch of them. New gear definitely seems better, from an 0311 perspective. Even if I have a bunch of seizures.
Ah yes the chronic back pain setup tutorial, I like that marines just have tan brown, the Army ACU one's I personally find ugly but our new OCP patterned one's I like. To all those who rucked carrying a ruck sack in training or patrols don't worry the VA won't call it service related injuries.
So funny Love the fact that Marines have this gear. I wonder if the brass take away from them and give them crap to use and use this stuff for inspections. That’s what they did to us. I was watching the Pacific, movie, and realized that in 1966/67 we were using the same gear that Marines used in the Pacific.
Ah yes the USMC uncomplicated shit made complicated. Had to take 64 items of issued gear in 3 different bags one being the main pack with no straps at all. Fully un- assembled luckily the my barracks was less then half a click away
I acquired a brand new one recently. A full sized suit case has nothing on this. It is all set up, parked and ready to go. Awaiting my next *** deployment😎
He means that this, and other pieces of issued gear, seem like they look good and are functional, but 2 minutes after you start using them they start to either malfunction or epicly fail to serve their purpose, and in the cases of these packs, most of the time end up hurting you.
I like how they brought ALICE design features into it. Hip belt is still useless with a plate carrier (conveniently skipped in the video). Shoulder and back injuries will continue as long as warfighters are forced to continue to manage loads inefficiently. The Marine in body armor at the end isn't wearing ammo pouches or canteens either. Nice try Marines, but with empty pack weight at 2lbs heavier than the ILBE? Y'all are in the same boat as the Army's MOLLE II. Good luck with that!
Coyote is the best color to mach both green and desert cammies the Marine wear. There is an article you can look up about why and how the Marines decided on that color.
Not only does MARPAT look cool, but it does what its is supposed to. In the modern time, I think that keeping at least 1 branch with a digital camo would keep up prepared against countries with the tech digital camo is supposed to counter.
1. The method or result of concealing personnel or equipment from an enemy by making them appear to be part of the natural surroundings. -Its still camo by definition, and in reality. There's also this beautiful thing called logistics... Alot easier to produce single-colored gear than digi-cam. I would rather spend less on fancy-colored rucks, then spend the saved $ on things like better food ;)
I'm not in the military, but I am a backpacker as well as a former USFS wildland firefighter. This pack system seems overly complicated and heavy. Wasn't the ILBE system adopted because of similar problems that were apparent in the MOLLE system?
Ok, Devil dogs. Back in 1983 when I was in, we did not have anything that even looked like this. Wish I was in now. We had just the metal frame, nylon alice pack (all, light weight, individual carrying equipment). Oh and we could not have a tattoo. We would get office hours for that one. Semper fi.
the alice is still better this packis a real pain in the ass to adjust on the go and carries weight terrible maybe its beacause im 12? lol but the alice is my favorite 21 miles in both, after about three miles in the straps on this started coming loose but the alice stayed fit the entire 21 miles great pack.
I'm looking into getting a ILBE or a FILBE. Anybody in here do some 15+ mile humps in both? Which is better? I had a ALICE ruck back in the day, need to upgrade.
I attached FILBE frame set with large ALICE bag. but I got a problem. I thought its gonna work good but it feels like the load pushing me backwards..doesn't feel comfortable and carry heavy loads well as I would expected..I adjusted the shoulder straps by watching this video..or is it about the bag itself? you know Large ALICE bag is just wide and bulky. when u load it a lot of stuff, the loads kinda hang backward..
i’m not gonna lie this video needs better angles because some things you need to show and not tell that’s the entire point of a video is to show am i wrong?
Love your videos im I enlisting in October 2022 I'm 26 yrs old, I have to drop a hundred pounds prior to my enlistment I was looking into Miltary police or Infantry 0311
I was in the corps when they tried Molle (worst pack ever), then they tried the Sally pack (slightly less shitty than Molle). I was fortunate enough to be in a specialized unit where we could use the tried and true Alice Mountain Ruck. I’ve yet to see a back system better than the Mountain Ruck
I hope you mean the CFP 90 or the LC 2 Large. To my informal knowledge the US armed forces haven't called any pack a mountain pack since 1945. And officially you know it was called something else. TBH I heard my CFP called an Alice pack by some guy who claimed 2 tours in Asswipestan. Y'all have a GOODN.
you don't drop them from the C-130. they are tethered to your jump gear. they go down with you. You release them the last bit of the way, they unroll down to the end of their tether. they then hit the ground shortly before you do. I'd know. additionally, they are polymer NOT plastic. There is a difference, as for how they hold up... they hold up damn good on airborne ops. Wish they'd have had this BEFORE i was done fucking up my back. Don't get me wrong they got some flaws, but damn better than the Alice steel frame shit i originally had. I was a contractor for a LONG time and carried Alice at start and this my last time out... I personally love this setup.
Didn't anybody learn anything from the MOLLE II pack disaster? Is it possible to make this thing any more complicated? How heavy is this beast unloaded?
If your 782 gear did not include a 'Gladius' and 'Imperial Roman' shield, don't talk to me about the 'old' Corps! ;) Semper Fi! CWO4 USMC [Ret] 1969-2004 MCRD San Diego Plt 2040 Feb - May 69
Yeah I think the Utilities is more or less just a uniform theses day's. We don't really fight in area's where we need absolute stealth. Since we mainly use convoys these days to get about.
Marpat blends in well with the enviroment,the vest I can understand but for the majority of the past wars there were no camo uniforms and they did fine. I know UCP was horrible and it got soldier's killed
Alright, not sure how to make this work. Cut me some slack, I purchased one of these for boundary waters trips. I have the marine pack but an army frame with shoulder and waist harness. (My frame is rectangular though, it doesn't have those horizontal arms at the middle) I'm trying to attach the pack to the shoulder harness but both the marine pack and army harness have the female connectors. WTF...
rediculous----I had a ALICE pack- and before that the old USMC back pack- In vietnam i had the guys wear pistol belt, ammo, knife, soft cover,ammo ,canteen and wpn....what is shown is out of star wars-
Thats actually not how this type of backpack is properly used. You need to tighten the hip belt first (this will bear most of the load and make large loads bearable), then the shoulder straps, and last the load lifter straps.
I'm curious, the Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed with a Marine infantry unit, do they carry the same bag? If so, where would they put all their medical supplies?
Our docs carried another bag with their med gear. Heard them always call it their medic 1 bag but that was quite a while ago. This stuff makes my head spin.
how could you get 45 degree angle on the load lifters? 1606 frame is too short for that matter unless you're really a short torso guy. it is virtually impossible for the most guys in average height. I've seen some video footages of female marines who are short like less than 5'4", they can have some angles on the load lifters.
True,hey what is your MOS I checked your channel and it says Iwakuni,Japan and I know that's a marine corps station.Then again that's kind of like asking why are 'black' M16's are used. On a scale of 1-10 how good is the gear you are issued I know it's not the best nor shit but at least ok and get the job done correct?
I stumbled upon this video. I trying to see if i should buy one. I remember humping the old ALICE packs when i was a "green-side" corpsman! 8404! i miss those days when gunny would walk around yelling at you on the hot cooking pan better known as the parade deck while you're assembling your sh*t for gear inspection !! haha When your gear is inspection-ready, he'll still yell at you !!! lol
Take a shot every time he says strap.
You will forget you ever watched this.
n c You’ll forget you ever lived
You will be reminded when your command does a line of duty for why you had your stomach pumped.
Time for a Jaeger Run!
When I mastered this pack system, the war is over already.
We'll be on to a couple more generations of packs before the current war is over.
@@helmsscotta lol this pack has been used for years and years, I doubt it
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@@helmsscotta
Well that comment aged... Strangely...
Wow, when I went to boot camp in 1976 we were still learning to use the same and I mean the same packs you see John Wayne carrying in the sands of Iwo Jima, even the horse shoe shaped blanket wrapped with the shelter half. only thing we didn't have was the wooden handled E-tool. Semper Fi !!!
Haversack with blanket role and shelter half and intrenching tool !! Better known as 782 gear Ooorha Semper Fi till I Die Brothers and Sisters !!! 69 - 73
WOW, BOOT IN 63 WE WERE USING THE SAME STUFF THEY USED IN
BELLEAU WOOD, FRANCE JUNE 6,1918.
@@NAMVETSTARLITE I wonder if they had the same pack when the Santa Maria
arrived on the shore of America On August 3, 1492, lol
@@NAMVETSTARLITE 40-50 years is a good time before upgrading military equipment look at the alice pack and m16 or even the k98 if we are talking germans
@@NAMVETSTARLITENo you weren't. The 782 gear was standardized in 1941. Before Pearl Harbor. Go to The Web Gear Review. He's the WebGear Guy!
As a civilian who needed to set his surplus FILBE up for non-manlet heights - i appreciate this video.
As that same civilian who watched it, forgot entirely about sizing it and had to come back to relearn everything - i feel i might of made a decent crayon eater.
This video was absolutely technical and practically efficient overall. With the new ergonomics I learned I plan to share this with my guys.
The most in depth ILBE video out there that I've seen so far! I was even feeling the nodding as I flashed back to death by power point instructional videos.
I started in the Marine Corps with the ALICE pack.. ended with the FILBE pack.. every old man saying the Alice pack was the best is the reason they're going to the VA for knee and back pain..
Crap that makes me feel really old. All we had was our 782 gear that dated back to Korea and some back to WW II. I was out of the Marine Corps before elements of the ALICE gear started to appear. Okay, old Marine guy time -- bunch of slackers needing things like a frame to carry their gear. I have become such an old salt that I can remember when Christ was a corporal. Semper fi y'all.
wilhard45 That's great , but this is a Molle system and not a Alice pack system .
Ya well I was in so long ago we used to see Jesus riding a Dinosaur all the time around MCRD...USMC '70-74'
Guess I'm Old too. "Doffing" your gear?? when was this word invented. We use to just say " Don't Be The Last One" We all knew what that meant. Semper Fi Marines.
Christ was then, and always has been King. and frames keep the Marines back servicable and ready fpr battle and also keeps you ready for the 1st civ div when you do eventually E.A.S. we're you even a grunt? only guys who use the pack as seen in this video are Grunt's Recon, Marine raiders {heard of them?} Artillery L.A.R., or amtrackers perhaps Anglico and a few other units. but most air wingers or motor "T" Marines will rarely use their pack as seen here. that doesnt make em any less of a Marine. anyone who earned the title is a U.S. Marine and thats good enough to be deployed and do your job in peace time or war time. a Marine is a Marine regardless of when he joins. just serve with Honor.
wilhard45 Actually, he was a Sgt. He had a 13 man squad
These are exactly what they use at boot camp now, I've never touched the predecessor but this pack has a lot of points of contact. Hip, shoulders, and sternum. As long as your gear is packed tight and comfortably (nothing hard stabbing into your back), each strap is tight, and move the shoulder buckles to the higher locations ... I've jumped and ran with these packs no problem. That 10 mile hike was a breeze.
That's all if you know how to use this pack. Of which the vast majority dont
@@Its_shiki_time4876
True for nearly every tool on this planet.
My son claims he is now a professional Tetris player after 4 years of this. lol
Might want to check Miramar’s issue point they give the pack to you unassembled. From the beginning of this video I knew I was going to hate my life when he said “it should already be assembled”
dam abt 6 years later and i’m sitting on my barracks floor on miramar assembling my whole pack 😭
@@whoischloe7why is this literally me rn down to the time and location 😂
@@Wilson-D.-DK miramar CIF lazy they hate to put together a pack 😭
@@whoischloe7 facts I had to put my whole cif together from scratch
Yuma gives it to you unassembled too
I've watched this like 4 times i don't even own this bag ....what's wrong with me.
Giacomo Ravina There is a main pack and assualt pack. Main pack sleeping system and assualt pack is for recon. Most people none military would have no idea how much we carry . This Advanced from Old school we carried 150 lbs and up of gear on standard operating . These new packs place all the weight on the hips and radio size and weight is a fraction of what I use to carry at 80 lbs on top of the assualt and main pack . Now imagine carrying around a 30 lb weapon in a no slinged postion. Developed a pair of guns real quick .
Nothing wrong with you . Just imagine when I was in the military there was no taller setting for a pack system . Stuck with a rig designed for a 5'5" person at 6'1". Had to learn to pad the pack with duck tape and foam .
Giacomo Ravina Also it was usually 100 + out and your watching a recruiter that was less than half size of all infantry personal wondering how he got past basic training in a non air conditioning building sweating and trying to keep your eyes open . That video was the last of your worries . Yes these videos are for stupid ppl . Watching 4 times cause guy has mono tone voice . Never puts emphasis on the important part of assembly . Worse than watching a air plan video on how to exit the air craft .
Giacomo Ravina i
I also dont have it and watched it multible times
I bought one of these for long camping trips. So far i love it. I mount it on my quad bike.
Lmao smart man. Carrying this beast is back pain in the works
Civvy here. Thanks for breaking it down in terms we can all understand. Salut
Who else sitting on the floor of their barracks rn?
Lol...same
Damn, it's crazy that y'all have smart phones. As a boot lance in 2006, I had to borrow a buddies flip phone until my lady friend out of Temecula was kind enough to put me on her parents family's plan. We had Internet but it was limited to the ps 2/Xbox or laptops, even psp's
@@Big_Glizzy. When i was in you needed a quarter and use a pay phone, One day a week.
Meeee
This guy
why does all this awesome gear get fielded after I retire, years I spend using gear that hadn't changed in 30 years
Trust me sir, most of the old shit we are still using lol
@Christopher Smith the plastic frames snap all the fucking time
These packs are not as great as they’re claimed to be. They have a lot of play in the top of the pack when worn and will shift side to side when walking. You can find much better equipment at bass pro shop.
Oh yeah man having to put this thing together is just awesome LOL
@@Cody2nd yes
I know that with recent times a lot of us have forgotten, but remember that to be camouflage, something needs only to help conceal you. Camouflage doesn't require multiple colors or patterns. I would agree that MARPAT is superior to a solid coyote brown, but remember that World War II and Vietnam era olive drab still conceals, just as the World War I era khaki uniforms did too. Coyote is the only color found in both MARPAT patterns. It's a beautiful system. I'd choose coyote over ACU any day.
Good work, my friend... being a very LONG-torso guy; I appreciate these guys.... THNX...
~Captain-R, USMC
I came here cuz I couldn't sleep.. Rah devil dogs..
Lmao
Rah
Great Video. The pack is 10X more comfortable in the long torso setting.
Thanks
Long torso setting begins at 7:20
you are a saint
How does a distance that short make any difference? IMO, it's a placebo effect.
Shout out to CIF for issuing my shit without quick release straps.
When these were first getting issued I hated them. I liked the marpat pack so much better
Seeing this video now, it’s much better than the ILBE was i believe
Impossible to be an insomniac with a video like this for us non bag owners
and they say Boot camp is the hardest thing to do in the USMC
No one says that. Boot camp is the easiest part.
I, by far, prefer the ILBE. It is far more comfortable, and it puts the weight on your hips, where it belongs. Its design is much better for anyone that knows where to stack weight in a ruck.
Just got one. This vid will definitely be useful
So much thought for developing this pack
This is amazing!
This pack looks awesome.
Im now on another government watchlist for watching this 😂😂😂
I had an ALICE pack. I think I would have had a seizure trying to figure this out. Though I remember testing Gen 1 of the MOLLE frame and breaking a bunch of them. New gear definitely seems better, from an 0311 perspective. Even if I have a bunch of seizures.
sadly its not ive done 21 miles with both the alice and the one shown in the vid the alice is a lot better
Ah yes the chronic back pain setup tutorial, I like that marines just have tan brown, the Army ACU one's I personally find ugly but our new OCP patterned one's I like. To all those who rucked carrying a ruck sack in training or patrols don't worry the VA won't call it service related injuries.
Lololol
So funny Love the fact that Marines have this gear. I wonder if the brass take away from them and give them crap to use and use this stuff for inspections. That’s what they did to us. I was watching the Pacific, movie, and realized that in 1966/67 we were using the same gear that Marines used in the Pacific.
this is the most I've ever heard the word strap/straps in my entire life
i was just wondering the other day how to set up my USMC Pack System.
I'm looking for more videos like this.
Awesome............................... Thanks for the video & Thumbs Up :D
Ah yes the USMC uncomplicated shit made complicated. Had to take 64 items of issued gear in 3 different bags one being the main pack with no straps at all. Fully un- assembled luckily the my barracks was less then half a click away
Although, recently retired, how can I get this pack. Standing by. Semper Fi. Chaps+
I acquired a brand new one recently. A full sized suit case has nothing on this. It is all set up, parked and ready to go. Awaiting my next *** deployment😎
Wow new gear this is a different gear when I was in from 1993- 1997 , USMC for ever
1:24 his facial expression is no acting when taking it off. Lol. Semper Fi.
i love these longer videos.
He means that this, and other pieces of issued gear, seem like they look good and are functional, but 2 minutes after you start using them they start to either malfunction or epicly fail to serve their purpose, and in the cases of these packs, most of the time end up hurting you.
I like the kidney pad and shoulder straps, but I will always use my ALICE pack or CFP90.
yes it is a very snug pack but trust me ive hiked 21 miles in both the alice and this ruck and the alice is wayyy better.
I like how they brought ALICE design features into it. Hip belt is still useless with a plate carrier (conveniently skipped in the video). Shoulder and back injuries will continue as long as warfighters are forced to continue to manage loads inefficiently. The Marine in body armor at the end isn't wearing ammo pouches or canteens either. Nice try Marines, but with empty pack weight at 2lbs heavier than the ILBE? Y'all are in the same boat as the Army's MOLLE II. Good luck with that!
I want one! how can I ,a civilian, get my hands on one of these?
Seven years late but you can find them online pretty easy they’re gonna cost a pretty penny though
Lol ya I’ve had one now for some time. But thanks
@@trooper2221 isnt it great to find a comment you posted 8 years ago
Coyote is the best color to mach both green and desert cammies the Marine wear. There is an article you can look up about why and how the Marines decided on that color.
Not only does MARPAT look cool, but it does what its is supposed to. In the modern time, I think that keeping at least 1 branch with a digital camo would keep up prepared against countries with the tech digital camo is supposed to counter.
Goodluck bro , have fun even when times are shitty ,
1. The method or result of concealing personnel or equipment from an enemy by making them appear to be part of the natural surroundings.
-Its still camo by definition, and in reality.
There's also this beautiful thing called logistics...
Alot easier to produce single-colored gear than digi-cam.
I would rather spend less on fancy-colored rucks, then spend the saved $ on things like better food ;)
I'm not in the military, but I am a backpacker as well as a former USFS wildland firefighter. This pack system seems overly complicated and heavy. Wasn't the ILBE system adopted because of similar problems that were apparent in the MOLLE system?
Yep that's what I was referring to about the article on how they came to find this color. Always thought that was a neat story.
Ok, Devil dogs. Back in 1983 when I was in, we did not have anything that even looked like this. Wish I was in now. We had just the metal frame, nylon alice pack (all, light weight, individual carrying equipment). Oh and we could not have a tattoo. We would get office hours for that one. Semper fi.
This pack looks very familiar to the ALICE pack which was IMO the best pack I was ever issued.
the alice is still better this packis a real pain in the ass to adjust on the go and carries weight terrible maybe its beacause im 12? lol but the alice is my favorite 21 miles in both, after about three miles in the straps on this started coming loose but the alice stayed fit the entire 21 miles great pack.
May god bless you and keep us safe
"It's supposed to be issued pre-assembled." That's funny 😂
"please not that an instructional card will accompany each pack" sorry to say this, but umm, none of us got an instructional card.
Who else is going on a hike tomorrow morning
Me😂😂😂😭😭😭
idk why i want 1 of these cuz only reason they replaced ilbe was body armor and im not wearing body armor any time soon so my ilbe will work
Pm ICE, how do you use the pack modification load lifter straps when in the long torso setting?
Plastic & nylon 2 big oh-no's
I'm looking into getting a ILBE or a FILBE. Anybody in here do some 15+ mile humps in both? Which is better? I had a ALICE ruck back in the day, need to upgrade.
I attached FILBE frame set with large ALICE bag. but I got a problem. I thought its gonna work good but it feels like the load pushing me backwards..doesn't feel comfortable and carry heavy loads well as I would expected..I adjusted the shoulder straps by watching this video..or is it about the bag itself? you know Large ALICE bag is just wide and bulky. when u load it a lot of stuff, the loads kinda hang backward..
The ole sink or swim training method, sort of miss those days.
Ads on this channel? Real fucking classy, Marine Corps.
i’m not gonna lie this video needs better angles because some things you need to show and not tell that’s the entire point of a video is to show am i wrong?
Lmfao I agree
that's pretty legit. gotta get myself over to cif.
So is building this pack just a one time thing? Or do you break it down whenever you're not deployed?
+Nick Sepulveda Hell no. You keep it assembled. Most marines don't know how to reassemble them if you were to break them down.
+Tao Liu Alright cool, thanks for the answer.
You are the best marines
I own one of these rucksacks. and, it's actually not that hard to assemble and convert. just remember the number and letter locations
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very well executed
Love your videos im I enlisting in October 2022 I'm 26 yrs old, I have to drop a hundred pounds prior to my enlistment I was looking into Miltary police or Infantry 0311
I was in the corps when they tried Molle (worst pack ever), then they tried the Sally pack (slightly less shitty than Molle). I was fortunate enough to be in a specialized unit where we could use the tried and true Alice Mountain Ruck. I’ve yet to see a back system better than the Mountain Ruck
I hope you mean the CFP 90 or the LC 2 Large. To my informal knowledge the US armed forces haven't called any pack a mountain pack since 1945. And officially you know it was called something else. TBH I heard my CFP called an Alice pack by some guy who claimed 2 tours in Asswipestan. Y'all have a GOODN.
I thought the Corps got away from that plastic frame, can you image how this thing is going to hold up being dropped from a C-130?
Tyrone Walker Ouch
you don't drop them from the C-130. they are tethered to your jump gear. they go down with you. You release them the last bit of the way, they unroll down to the end of their tether. they then hit the ground shortly before you do. I'd know. additionally, they are polymer NOT plastic. There is a difference, as for how they hold up... they hold up damn good on airborne ops. Wish they'd have had this BEFORE i was done fucking up my back. Don't get me wrong they got some flaws, but damn better than the Alice steel frame shit i originally had. I was a contractor for a LONG time and carried Alice at start and this my last time out... I personally love this setup.
Didn't anybody learn anything from the MOLLE II pack disaster? Is it possible to make this thing any more complicated? How heavy is this beast unloaded?
John Galt 8.9 lbs. Or something like 10 even with all pouches and another 2-3 lbs if assault pack is hooked up.
Is there a place to purchase this exact pack as a civilian?
ebay is the best place for a new in bag kit or piece together the system
Amazon too. Pretty reasonable price
Way better than the "ILBE" system.
They implemented this after I got out in Jan 2012. Looks nice,
did any of the generals who approved this thing study warfighting? re soldier's load and mobility of a nation? men against fire?
All our equipment was from WWII. I was in the corps from 5/8/50.... discharged 7/2/58.
If your 782 gear did not include a 'Gladius' and 'Imperial Roman' shield, don't talk to me about the 'old' Corps! ;)
Semper Fi!
CWO4 USMC [Ret]
1969-2004
MCRD San Diego Plt 2040 Feb - May 69
I would like to know who I have to talk to to leave a detailed list of discrepancies on this pack.
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Thanks for the vid
Yeah I think the Utilities is more or less just a uniform theses day's. We don't really fight in area's where we need absolute stealth. Since we mainly use convoys these
days to get about.
Marpat blends in well with the enviroment,the vest I can understand but for the majority of the past wars there were no camo uniforms and they did fine.
I know UCP was horrible and it got soldier's killed
Alright, not sure how to make this work. Cut me some slack, I purchased one of these for boundary waters trips. I have the marine pack but an army frame with shoulder and waist harness. (My frame is rectangular though, it doesn't have those horizontal arms at the middle) I'm trying to attach the pack to the shoulder harness but both the marine pack and army harness have the female connectors. WTF...
Quick update, my frame is a Molle II, and I'm trying to attach a USMC pack. Can anyone help.
Buy the filbe frame. The molle I frame is far weaker and known for breaking. More expensive but tactical tailor has some sweet stuff also.
I have a bag very similar with external frame. I still don't understand it all. Course I haven't been in the Marine Corps for 40 years.
rediculous----I had a ALICE pack- and before that the old USMC back pack- In vietnam i had the guys wear pistol belt, ammo, knife, soft cover,ammo ,canteen and wpn....what is shown is out of star wars-
We took ALICE to Desert Storm ...
what packs did you use in nam the lightweight ruck the arvn ruck the m41 ruck or the tropical all pretty good packs
So....how do you put this together?
Thats actually not how this type of backpack is properly used. You need to tighten the hip belt first (this will bear most of the load and make large loads bearable), then the shoulder straps, and last the load lifter straps.
USMC Pack
creative name
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I'm curious, the Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed with a Marine infantry unit, do they carry the same bag? If so, where would they put all their medical supplies?
Our docs carried another bag with their med gear. Heard them always call it their medic 1 bag but that was quite a while ago. This stuff makes my head spin.
Go corp!!love you devil dogs!!proud marine pup myself!hoo raaah!!
how could you get 45 degree angle on the load lifters? 1606 frame is too short for that matter unless you're really a short torso guy. it is virtually impossible for the most guys in average height. I've seen some video footages of female marines who are short like less than 5'4", they can have some angles on the load lifters.
True,hey what is your MOS I checked your channel and it says Iwakuni,Japan and I know that's a marine corps station.Then again that's kind of like asking why are 'black' M16's are used.
On a scale of 1-10 how good is the gear you are issued I know it's not the best nor shit but at least ok and get the job done correct?
A lot of help thx!!
I stumbled upon this video. I trying to see if i should buy one. I remember humping the old ALICE packs when i was a "green-side" corpsman! 8404! i miss those days when gunny would walk around yelling at you on the hot cooking pan better known as the parade deck while you're assembling your sh*t for gear inspection !! haha When your gear is inspection-ready, he'll still yell at you !!! lol