Wow, when I went to boot camp in 1976 we were still learning to use the same and I mean the same packs you see John Wayne carrying in the sands of Iwo Jima, even the horse shoe shaped blanket wrapped with the shelter half. only thing we didn't have was the wooden handled E-tool. Semper Fi !!!
Haversack with blanket role and shelter half and intrenching tool !! Better known as 782 gear Ooorha Semper Fi till I Die Brothers and Sisters !!! 69 - 73
@@NAMVETSTARLITE 40-50 years is a good time before upgrading military equipment look at the alice pack and m16 or even the k98 if we are talking germans
Might want to check Miramar’s issue point they give the pack to you unassembled. From the beginning of this video I knew I was going to hate my life when he said “it should already be assembled”
As a civilian who needed to set his surplus FILBE up for non-manlet heights - i appreciate this video. As that same civilian who watched it, forgot entirely about sizing it and had to come back to relearn everything - i feel i might of made a decent crayon eater.
The most in depth ILBE video out there that I've seen so far! I was even feeling the nodding as I flashed back to death by power point instructional videos.
I started in the Marine Corps with the ALICE pack.. ended with the FILBE pack.. every old man saying the Alice pack was the best is the reason they're going to the VA for knee and back pain..
Crap that makes me feel really old. All we had was our 782 gear that dated back to Korea and some back to WW II. I was out of the Marine Corps before elements of the ALICE gear started to appear. Okay, old Marine guy time -- bunch of slackers needing things like a frame to carry their gear. I have become such an old salt that I can remember when Christ was a corporal. Semper fi y'all.
Guess I'm Old too. "Doffing" your gear?? when was this word invented. We use to just say " Don't Be The Last One" We all knew what that meant. Semper Fi Marines.
Christ was then, and always has been King. and frames keep the Marines back servicable and ready fpr battle and also keeps you ready for the 1st civ div when you do eventually E.A.S. we're you even a grunt? only guys who use the pack as seen in this video are Grunt's Recon, Marine raiders {heard of them?} Artillery L.A.R., or amtrackers perhaps Anglico and a few other units. but most air wingers or motor "T" Marines will rarely use their pack as seen here. that doesnt make em any less of a Marine. anyone who earned the title is a U.S. Marine and thats good enough to be deployed and do your job in peace time or war time. a Marine is a Marine regardless of when he joins. just serve with Honor.
Giacomo Ravina There is a main pack and assualt pack. Main pack sleeping system and assualt pack is for recon. Most people none military would have no idea how much we carry . This Advanced from Old school we carried 150 lbs and up of gear on standard operating . These new packs place all the weight on the hips and radio size and weight is a fraction of what I use to carry at 80 lbs on top of the assualt and main pack . Now imagine carrying around a 30 lb weapon in a no slinged postion. Developed a pair of guns real quick .
Nothing wrong with you . Just imagine when I was in the military there was no taller setting for a pack system . Stuck with a rig designed for a 5'5" person at 6'1". Had to learn to pad the pack with duck tape and foam .
Giacomo Ravina Also it was usually 100 + out and your watching a recruiter that was less than half size of all infantry personal wondering how he got past basic training in a non air conditioning building sweating and trying to keep your eyes open . That video was the last of your worries . Yes these videos are for stupid ppl . Watching 4 times cause guy has mono tone voice . Never puts emphasis on the important part of assembly . Worse than watching a air plan video on how to exit the air craft .
These packs are not as great as they’re claimed to be. They have a lot of play in the top of the pack when worn and will shift side to side when walking. You can find much better equipment at bass pro shop.
These are exactly what they use at boot camp now, I've never touched the predecessor but this pack has a lot of points of contact. Hip, shoulders, and sternum. As long as your gear is packed tight and comfortably (nothing hard stabbing into your back), each strap is tight, and move the shoulder buckles to the higher locations ... I've jumped and ran with these packs no problem. That 10 mile hike was a breeze.
@@reallyhappenings5597 You don't. Military service actually makes it quicker and cheaper to acquire citizenship, so some foreign born people join primarily for that reason. You do, however, already have to be a (legal) permanent resident here to join in the first place, so that is still a bit of a hurdle.
I know that with recent times a lot of us have forgotten, but remember that to be camouflage, something needs only to help conceal you. Camouflage doesn't require multiple colors or patterns. I would agree that MARPAT is superior to a solid coyote brown, but remember that World War II and Vietnam era olive drab still conceals, just as the World War I era khaki uniforms did too. Coyote is the only color found in both MARPAT patterns. It's a beautiful system. I'd choose coyote over ACU any day.
When these were first getting issued I hated them. I liked the marpat pack so much better Seeing this video now, it’s much better than the ILBE was i believe
Ah yes the chronic back pain setup tutorial, I like that marines just have tan brown, the Army ACU one's I personally find ugly but our new OCP patterned one's I like. To all those who rucked carrying a ruck sack in training or patrols don't worry the VA won't call it service related injuries.
I had an ALICE pack. I think I would have had a seizure trying to figure this out. Though I remember testing Gen 1 of the MOLLE frame and breaking a bunch of them. New gear definitely seems better, from an 0311 perspective. Even if I have a bunch of seizures.
I acquired a brand new one recently. A full sized suit case has nothing on this. It is all set up, parked and ready to go. Awaiting my next *** deployment😎
I, by far, prefer the ILBE. It is far more comfortable, and it puts the weight on your hips, where it belongs. Its design is much better for anyone that knows where to stack weight in a ruck.
I'm looking into getting a ILBE or a FILBE. Anybody in here do some 15+ mile humps in both? Which is better? I had a ALICE ruck back in the day, need to upgrade.
So funny Love the fact that Marines have this gear. I wonder if the brass take away from them and give them crap to use and use this stuff for inspections. That’s what they did to us. I was watching the Pacific, movie, and realized that in 1966/67 we were using the same gear that Marines used in the Pacific.
I attached FILBE frame set with large ALICE bag. but I got a problem. I thought its gonna work good but it feels like the load pushing me backwards..doesn't feel comfortable and carry heavy loads well as I would expected..I adjusted the shoulder straps by watching this video..or is it about the bag itself? you know Large ALICE bag is just wide and bulky. when u load it a lot of stuff, the loads kinda hang backward..
He means that this, and other pieces of issued gear, seem like they look good and are functional, but 2 minutes after you start using them they start to either malfunction or epicly fail to serve their purpose, and in the cases of these packs, most of the time end up hurting you.
Ok, Devil dogs. Back in 1983 when I was in, we did not have anything that even looked like this. Wish I was in now. We had just the metal frame, nylon alice pack (all, light weight, individual carrying equipment). Oh and we could not have a tattoo. We would get office hours for that one. Semper fi.
I'm not in the military, but I am a backpacker as well as a former USFS wildland firefighter. This pack system seems overly complicated and heavy. Wasn't the ILBE system adopted because of similar problems that were apparent in the MOLLE system?
how could you get 45 degree angle on the load lifters? 1606 frame is too short for that matter unless you're really a short torso guy. it is virtually impossible for the most guys in average height. I've seen some video footages of female marines who are short like less than 5'4", they can have some angles on the load lifters.
the alice is still better this packis a real pain in the ass to adjust on the go and carries weight terrible maybe its beacause im 12? lol but the alice is my favorite 21 miles in both, after about three miles in the straps on this started coming loose but the alice stayed fit the entire 21 miles great pack.
Alright, not sure how to make this work. Cut me some slack, I purchased one of these for boundary waters trips. I have the marine pack but an army frame with shoulder and waist harness. (My frame is rectangular though, it doesn't have those horizontal arms at the middle) I'm trying to attach the pack to the shoulder harness but both the marine pack and army harness have the female connectors. WTF...
I'm curious, the Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed with a Marine infantry unit, do they carry the same bag? If so, where would they put all their medical supplies?
Our docs carried another bag with their med gear. Heard them always call it their medic 1 bag but that was quite a while ago. This stuff makes my head spin.
Not only does MARPAT look cool, but it does what its is supposed to. In the modern time, I think that keeping at least 1 branch with a digital camo would keep up prepared against countries with the tech digital camo is supposed to counter.
Coyote is the best color to mach both green and desert cammies the Marine wear. There is an article you can look up about why and how the Marines decided on that color.
I like how they brought ALICE design features into it. Hip belt is still useless with a plate carrier (conveniently skipped in the video). Shoulder and back injuries will continue as long as warfighters are forced to continue to manage loads inefficiently. The Marine in body armor at the end isn't wearing ammo pouches or canteens either. Nice try Marines, but with empty pack weight at 2lbs heavier than the ILBE? Y'all are in the same boat as the Army's MOLLE II. Good luck with that!
Didn't anybody learn anything from the MOLLE II pack disaster? Is it possible to make this thing any more complicated? How heavy is this beast unloaded?
1. The method or result of concealing personnel or equipment from an enemy by making them appear to be part of the natural surroundings. -Its still camo by definition, and in reality. There's also this beautiful thing called logistics... Alot easier to produce single-colored gear than digi-cam. I would rather spend less on fancy-colored rucks, then spend the saved $ on things like better food ;)
When I mastered this pack system, the war is over already.
We'll be on to a couple more generations of packs before the current war is over.
@@helmsscotta lol this pack has been used for years and years, I doubt it
🤣
@@helmsscotta
Well that comment aged... Strangely...
Take a shot every time he says strap.
You will forget you ever watched this.
n c You’ll forget you ever lived
You will be reminded when your command does a line of duty for why you had your stomach pumped.
Time for a Jaeger Run!
Wow, when I went to boot camp in 1976 we were still learning to use the same and I mean the same packs you see John Wayne carrying in the sands of Iwo Jima, even the horse shoe shaped blanket wrapped with the shelter half. only thing we didn't have was the wooden handled E-tool. Semper Fi !!!
Haversack with blanket role and shelter half and intrenching tool !! Better known as 782 gear Ooorha Semper Fi till I Die Brothers and Sisters !!! 69 - 73
WOW, BOOT IN 63 WE WERE USING THE SAME STUFF THEY USED IN
BELLEAU WOOD, FRANCE JUNE 6,1918.
@@NAMVETSTARLITE I wonder if they had the same pack when the Santa Maria
arrived on the shore of America On August 3, 1492, lol
@@NAMVETSTARLITE 40-50 years is a good time before upgrading military equipment look at the alice pack and m16 or even the k98 if we are talking germans
@@NAMVETSTARLITENo you weren't. The 782 gear was standardized in 1941. Before Pearl Harbor. Go to The Web Gear Review. He's the WebGear Guy!
This video was absolutely technical and practically efficient overall. With the new ergonomics I learned I plan to share this with my guys.
Might want to check Miramar’s issue point they give the pack to you unassembled. From the beginning of this video I knew I was going to hate my life when he said “it should already be assembled”
As a civilian who needed to set his surplus FILBE up for non-manlet heights - i appreciate this video.
As that same civilian who watched it, forgot entirely about sizing it and had to come back to relearn everything - i feel i might of made a decent crayon eater.
The most in depth ILBE video out there that I've seen so far! I was even feeling the nodding as I flashed back to death by power point instructional videos.
I started in the Marine Corps with the ALICE pack.. ended with the FILBE pack.. every old man saying the Alice pack was the best is the reason they're going to the VA for knee and back pain..
Crap that makes me feel really old. All we had was our 782 gear that dated back to Korea and some back to WW II. I was out of the Marine Corps before elements of the ALICE gear started to appear. Okay, old Marine guy time -- bunch of slackers needing things like a frame to carry their gear. I have become such an old salt that I can remember when Christ was a corporal. Semper fi y'all.
wilhard45 That's great , but this is a Molle system and not a Alice pack system .
Ya well I was in so long ago we used to see Jesus riding a Dinosaur all the time around MCRD...USMC '70-74'
Guess I'm Old too. "Doffing" your gear?? when was this word invented. We use to just say " Don't Be The Last One" We all knew what that meant. Semper Fi Marines.
Christ was then, and always has been King. and frames keep the Marines back servicable and ready fpr battle and also keeps you ready for the 1st civ div when you do eventually E.A.S. we're you even a grunt? only guys who use the pack as seen in this video are Grunt's Recon, Marine raiders {heard of them?} Artillery L.A.R., or amtrackers perhaps Anglico and a few other units. but most air wingers or motor "T" Marines will rarely use their pack as seen here. that doesnt make em any less of a Marine. anyone who earned the title is a U.S. Marine and thats good enough to be deployed and do your job in peace time or war time. a Marine is a Marine regardless of when he joins. just serve with Honor.
wilhard45 Actually, he was a Sgt. He had a 13 man squad
I've watched this like 4 times i don't even own this bag ....what's wrong with me.
Giacomo Ravina There is a main pack and assualt pack. Main pack sleeping system and assualt pack is for recon. Most people none military would have no idea how much we carry . This Advanced from Old school we carried 150 lbs and up of gear on standard operating . These new packs place all the weight on the hips and radio size and weight is a fraction of what I use to carry at 80 lbs on top of the assualt and main pack . Now imagine carrying around a 30 lb weapon in a no slinged postion. Developed a pair of guns real quick .
Nothing wrong with you . Just imagine when I was in the military there was no taller setting for a pack system . Stuck with a rig designed for a 5'5" person at 6'1". Had to learn to pad the pack with duck tape and foam .
Giacomo Ravina Also it was usually 100 + out and your watching a recruiter that was less than half size of all infantry personal wondering how he got past basic training in a non air conditioning building sweating and trying to keep your eyes open . That video was the last of your worries . Yes these videos are for stupid ppl . Watching 4 times cause guy has mono tone voice . Never puts emphasis on the important part of assembly . Worse than watching a air plan video on how to exit the air craft .
Giacomo Ravina i
I also dont have it and watched it multible times
My son claims he is now a professional Tetris player after 4 years of this. lol
why does all this awesome gear get fielded after I retire, years I spend using gear that hadn't changed in 30 years
Trust me sir, most of the old shit we are still using lol
@Christopher Smith the plastic frames snap all the fucking time
These packs are not as great as they’re claimed to be. They have a lot of play in the top of the pack when worn and will shift side to side when walking. You can find much better equipment at bass pro shop.
Oh yeah man having to put this thing together is just awesome LOL
@@Cody2nd yes
These are exactly what they use at boot camp now, I've never touched the predecessor but this pack has a lot of points of contact. Hip, shoulders, and sternum. As long as your gear is packed tight and comfortably (nothing hard stabbing into your back), each strap is tight, and move the shoulder buckles to the higher locations ... I've jumped and ran with these packs no problem. That 10 mile hike was a breeze.
That's all if you know how to use this pack. Of which the vast majority dont
@@Its_shiki_time4876
True for nearly every tool on this planet.
I bought one of these for long camping trips. So far i love it. I mount it on my quad bike.
Lmao smart man. Carrying this beast is back pain in the works
Their equipment inspire me to join the Marines. I'm 14 years old now but I'm not US Citizen. That's my first problem before joining the Marine.
I don't think you have to be a citizen.
@@reallyhappenings5597 You don't. Military service actually makes it quicker and cheaper to acquire citizenship, so some foreign born people join primarily for that reason. You do, however, already have to be a (legal) permanent resident here to join in the first place, so that is still a bit of a hurdle.
Did u do it what's your mos
You ever join? Lmao
Facts did u ever join
I came here cuz I couldn't sleep.. Rah devil dogs..
Lmao
Rah
Who else sitting on the floor of their barracks rn?
Lol...same
Good work, my friend... being a very LONG-torso guy; I appreciate these guys.... THNX...
~Captain-R, USMC
I know that with recent times a lot of us have forgotten, but remember that to be camouflage, something needs only to help conceal you. Camouflage doesn't require multiple colors or patterns. I would agree that MARPAT is superior to a solid coyote brown, but remember that World War II and Vietnam era olive drab still conceals, just as the World War I era khaki uniforms did too. Coyote is the only color found in both MARPAT patterns. It's a beautiful system. I'd choose coyote over ACU any day.
Great Video. The pack is 10X more comfortable in the long torso setting.
Thanks
Impossible to be an insomniac with a video like this for us non bag owners
i was just wondering the other day how to set up my USMC Pack System.
Long torso setting begins at 7:20
you are a saint
How does a distance that short make any difference? IMO, it's a placebo effect.
this is the most I've ever heard the word strap/straps in my entire life
When these were first getting issued I hated them. I liked the marpat pack so much better
Seeing this video now, it’s much better than the ILBE was i believe
Pm ICE, how do you use the pack modification load lifter straps when in the long torso setting?
i love these longer videos.
This pack looks awesome.
Although, recently retired, how can I get this pack. Standing by. Semper Fi. Chaps+
and they say Boot camp is the hardest thing to do in the USMC
No one says that. Boot camp is the easiest part.
Just got one. This vid will definitely be useful
I'm looking for more videos like this.
Awesome............................... Thanks for the video & Thumbs Up :D
So much thought for developing this pack
This is amazing!
Ah yes the chronic back pain setup tutorial, I like that marines just have tan brown, the Army ACU one's I personally find ugly but our new OCP patterned one's I like. To all those who rucked carrying a ruck sack in training or patrols don't worry the VA won't call it service related injuries.
Lololol
I had an ALICE pack. I think I would have had a seizure trying to figure this out. Though I remember testing Gen 1 of the MOLLE frame and breaking a bunch of them. New gear definitely seems better, from an 0311 perspective. Even if I have a bunch of seizures.
sadly its not ive done 21 miles with both the alice and the one shown in the vid the alice is a lot better
I acquired a brand new one recently. A full sized suit case has nothing on this. It is all set up, parked and ready to go. Awaiting my next *** deployment😎
I, by far, prefer the ILBE. It is far more comfortable, and it puts the weight on your hips, where it belongs. Its design is much better for anyone that knows where to stack weight in a ruck.
I'm looking into getting a ILBE or a FILBE. Anybody in here do some 15+ mile humps in both? Which is better? I had a ALICE ruck back in the day, need to upgrade.
this videos 9 years old and I was using the pack they had before this one, fuck im gettin old boys.
very well executed
So funny Love the fact that Marines have this gear. I wonder if the brass take away from them and give them crap to use and use this stuff for inspections. That’s what they did to us. I was watching the Pacific, movie, and realized that in 1966/67 we were using the same gear that Marines used in the Pacific.
I attached FILBE frame set with large ALICE bag. but I got a problem. I thought its gonna work good but it feels like the load pushing me backwards..doesn't feel comfortable and carry heavy loads well as I would expected..I adjusted the shoulder straps by watching this video..or is it about the bag itself? you know Large ALICE bag is just wide and bulky. when u load it a lot of stuff, the loads kinda hang backward..
Plastic & nylon 2 big oh-no's
Wow new gear this is a different gear when I was in from 1993- 1997 , USMC for ever
A lot of help thx!!
Shout out to CIF for issuing my shit without quick release straps.
MERICA FUCK YEA!!!
He means that this, and other pieces of issued gear, seem like they look good and are functional, but 2 minutes after you start using them they start to either malfunction or epicly fail to serve their purpose, and in the cases of these packs, most of the time end up hurting you.
Thanks for the vid
Goodluck bro , have fun even when times are shitty ,
Is that body armor the Improved SPC? or just the SPC? Looks different to the SPC...
Yep that's what I was referring to about the article on how they came to find this color. Always thought that was a neat story.
May god bless you and keep us safe
I want one! how can I ,a civilian, get my hands on one of these?
Seven years late but you can find them online pretty easy they’re gonna cost a pretty penny though
Lol ya I’ve had one now for some time. But thanks
@@trooper2221 isnt it great to find a comment you posted 8 years ago
"please not that an instructional card will accompany each pack" sorry to say this, but umm, none of us got an instructional card.
Ok, Devil dogs. Back in 1983 when I was in, we did not have anything that even looked like this. Wish I was in now. We had just the metal frame, nylon alice pack (all, light weight, individual carrying equipment). Oh and we could not have a tattoo. We would get office hours for that one. Semper fi.
I own one of these rucksacks. and, it's actually not that hard to assemble and convert. just remember the number and letter locations
1:24 his facial expression is no acting when taking it off. Lol. Semper Fi.
Is there a place to purchase this exact pack as a civilian?
ebay is the best place for a new in bag kit or piece together the system
Amazon too. Pretty reasonable price
where can i get one of these?!?!
where can i get hold of one of these ? i am swedish by the way
I'm not in the military, but I am a backpacker as well as a former USFS wildland firefighter. This pack system seems overly complicated and heavy. Wasn't the ILBE system adopted because of similar problems that were apparent in the MOLLE system?
Ads on this channel? Real fucking classy, Marine Corps.
this is my dream pack
They implemented this after I got out in Jan 2012. Looks nice,
when in july do you ship? sand diego/parris island?
So....how do you put this together?
So is building this pack just a one time thing? Or do you break it down whenever you're not deployed?
+Nick Sepulveda Hell no. You keep it assembled. Most marines don't know how to reassemble them if you were to break them down.
+Tao Liu Alright cool, thanks for the answer.
You are the best marines
that's pretty legit. gotta get myself over to cif.
how could you get 45 degree angle on the load lifters? 1606 frame is too short for that matter unless you're really a short torso guy. it is virtually impossible for the most guys in average height. I've seen some video footages of female marines who are short like less than 5'4", they can have some angles on the load lifters.
I like the kidney pad and shoulder straps, but I will always use my ALICE pack or CFP90.
yes it is a very snug pack but trust me ive hiked 21 miles in both the alice and this ruck and the alice is wayyy better.
This pack looks very familiar to the ALICE pack which was IMO the best pack I was ever issued.
the alice is still better this packis a real pain in the ass to adjust on the go and carries weight terrible maybe its beacause im 12? lol but the alice is my favorite 21 miles in both, after about three miles in the straps on this started coming loose but the alice stayed fit the entire 21 miles great pack.
Muy buenos vídeos ,ojala y estuvieran en español
Alright, not sure how to make this work. Cut me some slack, I purchased one of these for boundary waters trips. I have the marine pack but an army frame with shoulder and waist harness. (My frame is rectangular though, it doesn't have those horizontal arms at the middle) I'm trying to attach the pack to the shoulder harness but both the marine pack and army harness have the female connectors. WTF...
Quick update, my frame is a Molle II, and I'm trying to attach a USMC pack. Can anyone help.
Buy the filbe frame. The molle I frame is far weaker and known for breaking. More expensive but tactical tailor has some sweet stuff also.
Is the ILBE 2nd gen currently issued?
do we tighten and secure?
I have a bag very similar with external frame. I still don't understand it all. Course I haven't been in the Marine Corps for 40 years.
Go corp!!love you devil dogs!!proud marine pup myself!hoo raaah!!
I would like to know who I have to talk to to leave a detailed list of discrepancies on this pack.
I'm curious, the Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed with a Marine infantry unit, do they carry the same bag? If so, where would they put all their medical supplies?
Our docs carried another bag with their med gear. Heard them always call it their medic 1 bag but that was quite a while ago. This stuff makes my head spin.
Hi where can i buy this back pack and can someone outside U.S buy it? Thanks
This exact pack? how much and where did you buy it?
Where can I buy a pack like this
Not only does MARPAT look cool, but it does what its is supposed to. In the modern time, I think that keeping at least 1 branch with a digital camo would keep up prepared against countries with the tech digital camo is supposed to counter.
makes the inner frame interchangeable !
did any of the generals who approved this thing study warfighting? re soldier's load and mobility of a nation? men against fire?
USMC Pack
creative name
Yes my lord
Coyote is the best color to mach both green and desert cammies the Marine wear. There is an article you can look up about why and how the Marines decided on that color.
can we buy this
Errol Hewitt amazon and some milsurp websites sell em
The ole sink or swim training method, sort of miss those days.
I like how they brought ALICE design features into it. Hip belt is still useless with a plate carrier (conveniently skipped in the video). Shoulder and back injuries will continue as long as warfighters are forced to continue to manage loads inefficiently. The Marine in body armor at the end isn't wearing ammo pouches or canteens either. Nice try Marines, but with empty pack weight at 2lbs heavier than the ILBE? Y'all are in the same boat as the Army's MOLLE II. Good luck with that!
Can it be used without the frame?
Didn't anybody learn anything from the MOLLE II pack disaster? Is it possible to make this thing any more complicated? How heavy is this beast unloaded?
John Galt 8.9 lbs. Or something like 10 even with all pouches and another 2-3 lbs if assault pack is hooked up.
1. The method or result of concealing personnel or equipment from an enemy by making them appear to be part of the natural surroundings.
-Its still camo by definition, and in reality.
There's also this beautiful thing called logistics...
Alot easier to produce single-colored gear than digi-cam.
I would rather spend less on fancy-colored rucks, then spend the saved $ on things like better food ;)
Thanks.
where can i buy this pack????
you can pay for it once you're done though?
can you please explain further, al least, to me? i'm not a marine (i'm not even american for that matter) but i'm interested in the pack anyway...