Santol & Achacha Trees in the Fresno/Visalia Area.

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  • 5/25/2020 - Growing santol and achacha trees in California’s Central Valley.

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  • @oatiko3065
    @oatiko3065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I haven’t had Santol since I was a kid in the Philippines. I wish you great success with your tree. I’d like to taste Achacha.

    • @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418
      @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. It reminds me my childhood memories. Because of this video, it inspires me to grow one here in my backyard.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s awesome. Our taste buds really do stay with us for life. The taste really does bring us back to the good times that had initially tried the fruits.

    • @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418
      @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley So true! Thank you again. Happy gardening and keep sharing.

  • @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418
    @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I'm going to buy one and try to grow it here in Central Valley. Thanks for sharing.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s awesome. It’s always worth trying, though, you may want to frost protect it during the winter times, particularly if it goes super cold.

    • @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418
      @bellastvpinaygardenerincal4418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TropicalCentralValley Will do. Thank you.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re very welcome.

  • @Carbon5.0
    @Carbon5.0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did your achacha tree survive? Also, have you tried growing the Spanish Lime melicoccus, kind of like a lychee/longan

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not this original achacha tree, but this was an old video. I have since planted other achacha tree in the ground which is doing great.
      I passed on the Spanish lime as I didn’t like the taste of the fruits. It reported grows here with little issue, though I have not tried it.

  • @maryannlarsen1727
    @maryannlarsen1727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size pot did you have the santol tree and what kind of soil? Do you fertilize?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since the video, I have upsized it into a 25 gallon container. I use my own soil mixture, consisting of 40% peat moss, 40% sand and 20% potting soil. I use “generic” organic fertilizer with around 6-5-6. Specific to the fertilizer, I do change the NPK ratio depending on the condition of the tree. For instance, if the tree is flowering/fruiting, I eliminate the nitrogen and increase its phosphorus and potassium,

  • @djseaquist
    @djseaquist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any updates on your Santol tree?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It eventually succumbed to frost damage as they are incredibly cold sensitive.
      Having said that, I’m going to try again in the coming future.

  • @justinkouch6126
    @justinkouch6126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. I am also trying out Achacha as well. I got 3 trees, two are 4-5 feet tall and one is just above a foot in height. It survived temperature down to low 40s high 30s in San Gabriel Valley with no damage. I am just curious if it would fruit here. Fingers cross!

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s awesome. You’ll have to keep me posted on how they’re doing.
      I’m tempted to put mine in the ground, however, I’m in Zone 9b, so I’m treating it like I would a soursop.

    • @justinkouch6126
      @justinkouch6126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tropical Central Valley for sure, I am also keeping mine in 15 gallons pots so I can control the soil condition. I read somewhere that one guy got it to fruit in zone 10b in the ground next to the wall of the house. I think with all the micro climate that you got, maybe you could try to put in the ground in a year or two. I would say mine got some climate adjustment when I first received them from hawaii, the leaves got burn and crisp up, but now it pushed out all new growth, the new growth seem to withstand the heat so far; much easy to care for than caimito in my opion.

  • @sampsuns
    @sampsuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which one is more cold tolerant in Bay Area? I love mangosteen taste and which one is closer tasty?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bay Area is relatively warm when compared to the Central Valley. I can’t think of anything that remotely comes close to the mangosteen.

  • @TropicalZen
    @TropicalZen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, Did you get the achacha from mimosa too? I want one of those but can’t find it anywhere? I’m also waiting for you to say if the mangosteen seeds are sprouting. You sir have a super green thumb!

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. When we were in Mimosa on 10/3/2020, they had a number of achacha plants available.
      I will be doing a follow up video on the mangosteen propagation in the coming weeks, unfortunately, they did not germinate. However, I did manage to germinate another super ultra tropical fruit. Spoiler, this fruit is banned in a number of countries due to its pungent odor.

    • @TropicalZen
      @TropicalZen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley thanks for replying. Im guessing the fruit starts with a D? I hear good things about Exotica Rare fruit nursery, have you’ve been there?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We did stopped by Exoctica a while back. They carry many varieties of tropicals, however, I find many of them to be grown from seeds.
      Unlike other nurseries, they really don’t advertise the prices on their plants. The prices seem to be made up on the spot. Fortunately, their prices are relatively cheap.

  • @mgs721
    @mgs721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got an Achacha tree last weekend at Mimosa Nursery. I'm planting it in the ground this weekend, so excited! I've never tasted one, but they sound amazing. Has yours fruited yet?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s awesome. I’ll have to swing by and get myself another one.
      My own achacha tree actually succumbed to the summer heat, due to an error on my end. They need heavy shade during the summer time.

    • @mgs721
      @mgs721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley Oh, that's a bummer, sorry. They had about 15-20 Achachas as of last weekend (Rosemead location). Maybe I should give mine a little shade after I plant it, huh?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s all trials and errors, and sometimes, mostly errors resulting in the trees not making it.
      I will definitely grab another Achacha. Mimosa Montebello generally has a great selection.

  • @TropicalGardenGuy
    @TropicalGardenGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Achacha is one tree I want to try in Modesto. Now where to get a good tree ?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got both of mine from Mimosa Nursery in LA. I know Champa Nursery in LA also carried them when I visited in December.

  • @angakingtutube
    @angakingtutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has your santol fruited yet? I have one planted in the ground in coastal San Diego, and doing really well. It's about 4' tall w/ bushy canopy of leaves, but it hasn't flowered yet. Wondering if anyone has been successful with theirs to fruit in California.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not yet, likely next year for mine. I plan on lowering the nitrogen on all of my trees as I want to slow their growth. Instead, I will be focusing on phosphorus and potassium, to encourage fruiting.

  • @johnjacobsson3141
    @johnjacobsson3141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what variety of santol was this?
    Thanks!

  • @abon2987
    @abon2987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u have palo Santo plant ? Reply

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not have a Palo Santo tree. The vasts majority of my fruit trees are grown for their fruits, as I enjoy eating them.
      The Palo Santo is more of an essential oil, though, you can technically consume the wood in tea form.

  • @gardengainzz9191
    @gardengainzz9191 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Where did you obtain the Santol?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mimosa has a good selection of santol trees, though many of them have cold and salt damage leaves. They seem to recover fairly quickly.

    • @gardengainzz9191
      @gardengainzz9191 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley I'm wondering what is the cold hardiness on the Santol? My winters are lite and few 38's here and there. Maybe, if I plant it in the understory of another tree and let it reach the sun when mature.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s varying information on it, but many point it to USDA Zone 10-11.
      I made the mistake of planting a younger santol tree in my yard in February of this year and a frost in March knocked it out.

  • @marioatc
    @marioatc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does Achacha handle the Central Valley sun?

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They get sizzled if left in the summer sun. Mine got burned a bit. As the achacha are typically grown from seeds, they also grow really slowly.

    • @marioatc
      @marioatc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley I am in Fresno, and I just got few tropicals grown from seed, An Abiu, Achacha, Santol, Grumichama, Jaboticaba, Longan, Annona, and Jack fruit...

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice. The abiu is one I’ve been looking for. Nice collection you’ve got there.
      If able to, create your own TH-cam channel and showcase them. There’s very few of us growing tropicals in the Central Valley.

    • @marioatc
      @marioatc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley I heard etsy- seller ninewaters sells good seedlings at a resonable price, I got my tropicals from someone in facebook.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of my trees purchased from nurseries have been either grafted or air layered. There are some that have been traditionally grown from seed (soursop, achcha, etc.).
      I actively avoid growing tropicals from seeds to save time and to ensure the fruits are “true to seed”.
      The only time I grow from seeds are if I am unable to obtain an air layered or grafted ones.

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    @jepoy3223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @amandanoid9212
    @amandanoid9212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get a plant of santol??

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got mine from Mimosa Nursery down in LA.

    • @amandanoid9212
      @amandanoid9212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much

    • @amandanoid9212
      @amandanoid9212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my... I just checked online and everything is SOLD OUT🙄😭

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got mine back in April. As most of the tropical trees came from Florida, typically beginning of spring is the best time to get santol trees.

  • @mariusexotic
    @mariusexotic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong info...Santol is not directly related to mangosteen as you mention! it is not even remotely related to it.

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct. The santol’s nickname is the yellow mangosteen. Just likely Black Sapote is no where related to the sapote family, it still shares its name.

    • @mariusexotic
      @mariusexotic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TropicalCentralValley Again, sapote is not a scientific botanical family but just an indigenous nickname attributed to all kinds of different species of fruits that get ‘soft’ when ripe

    • @TropicalCentralValley
      @TropicalCentralValley  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Again, agreed. I never use scientific names for tree identification in my videos as that is not what the locals call the fruits.
      I doubt many local folks would know what a Diospyros nigra fruit tree is.