Military Tents, a Comparison | Dutch Army | Polish Lavvu | French F1 | Hungarian Zeltbahn
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- I love military canvas tents so I decided to get out all four that I own side by side and compare them. The Dutch Army, Polish Lavvu, French F1 and Hungarian Zeltbahn. All have their pros and cons and I have my preferred models.
Let me know which ones you prefer in the comments.
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I may just be old but the French Army tent reminds me of the ridge tents we had as kids. Love the look of it, huge inside too.
Yep, very similar. I love the amount of space inside 🙂
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I just wish they didn't leak, I just bought the Hungarian one today
Apparently the French army should come with a fly which hangs further over the zip but they don't always come with them secondhand.
I think I prefer the dutch out of all of these. Great comparison. Thanks for sharing. I love how you take the time to have the different camera angles.
My favourite switches between the Dutch and the lavvu. Thanks for watching.
On the sewing machine front I recommend the Singer Heavy Duty 4423.
It specifically made to sew through heavy denim and will definitely go through cotton canvas tarps.
It’s a straight forward no mess domestic sewing machine. Very easy machine to use for men starting off.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, I managed to use a standard singer with a denim needle and was pretty happy with the results. Thanks for watching.
Nice video.
I use a lavvu. I use 2 telescopic tarp poles and lines to replace the center pole. It opens up the entire interior. Yes I do use the lavvu for hiking, and I'm 64 years old.
With the 1 pole, a tent half, ground sheet, stakes and lines it comes in at 4 pounds. I use it as a rain poncho, lean to, outer cloak(instead of a coat) and tent(with a partner that has 2nd half). I regularly walk 4 miles and stay toasty warm on 30f temperature. Since it provides me with 3 or 4 functions I don't consider the 3lbs excessive as I would have to carry additional gear anyway to replace it.
It is a wonderful piece of kit. I've started using a tripod instead of the centre pole and the space is much bigger. I'm also changing the buttons for a zip to make attaching the two halves easier.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I have seen the zipper mod, I just haven't done it yet.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I leave the two halfs buttond up all the time, so no fumbling in puting it up.
It's more the getting in and out when my hands are cold that is the issue with buttons, the zip has solved that problem 👍
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I can understand that. I don't really have that issue as it normally doesn't get that cold in my area. Actually here standing water is more of a problem so I have to resort to a hammock if it rains. The water table is at about 0 inches give or take an inch or so.
I do have the Dutch Bivy which I really like! It and a tarp work just fine in all weather.
I have (and love) the old “pup”tent. It was my very first tent in the scouts. A little heavy but very durable.
Can't beat an old scout pup tent 🙂
Nice comparison Ed! I like the first 3 set of tents, but I'm not overly keen on that zeltbahn personally. I'm going to order the Dutch army one though. I have a size 1 and 2 Lavvu which I paid peanuts for, sod buying one now. Have a great week fella 👍
Cheers mate, yep the zeltbahn is definitely my least favourite but I'll give it a chance. I hope you find a good Dutch army at a good price 🙂
Good review, and ace camera work. I watched it primarily to see what you thought of the Hungarian zeltbahn as I had considered getting one. It needs a bipod internally or a suspension set up from the double grommets at the apex. That way I reckon you could stretch out diagonally and be comfortable, not touching the sides with head and feet.
I mostly use two USGI ponchos for backpacking, one for extra rain gear over a lightweight water/windproof jacket in downpours, minimal shelter in fair weather and two studded together as a large basha or to make a fully enclosed shelter in foul or colder weather.
I've used two 58s and then, when they wore out, two USGI ponchos studded together in an enclosed set up for base camps on pay/night camp sites, but when I saw how much the French F1 tents were, I couldn't resist and I used a tent for the first time in over 30 years in Cornwall for two weeks on a camp site. Very impressed, fantastic value, came with poles and pegs (the same as are used with the lavvu halves) a couple of very minor wear and tear faults and I had to fit it with guys, My F1 beaded water off no problem when I threw some on it for a pre-holiday test set up, but for belt and braces rain proofing I fitted a 3m x 3m tarp (I use that for hammock camping normally) as a fly sheet which comes right down to the ground either side for pegging and gives a bit more awning front and back. Any condensation from that landed on the tent just stood up on the F!'s canvas and never penetrated, just dried off. I used the tarp rather than my basha, which I also have, as it's bigger giving greater coverage than the tent.
Canvas is definitely warmer than man made fibre fabrics when it gets cold outside. You didn't show them, but mine also has bug nets on the doors. When it's a hot day/warm night normal door flaps tied back and the side bug net flaps down is great.
I still need to play with the zeltbahn and figure out what will work best, I'll definitely try your suggestions.
My F1 didn't come with a door bug net. I have seen them on some other videos, maybe mine is an earli9er model.
Thanks for watching.
Very interesting ed, a great comparison mate. Now you know my favourite but I'm swerving towards the Dutch army tent. It did impress me when I saw it at camp. Thanks for sharing mate. Great little video
You've yet to see the French f1 in the flesh, that might tempt you 😉
@@ECWoodlandCrafts Hahaha, stop spending my money 😂😂 I can't wait to see it mate.
Great video liking the comparison. Liked and subbed
Thank you very much 🙂
Nice vid fella ,liking that F1 tent 👍
Cheers, I'm impressed with the space in it, just gotta do a rain test to see how much it can handle.
Thank you. Great comparison. I never knew that the number of holes/grommets on the polish lavvu was how you size them (off to dig mine out now - I always wondered if they were two different sized halves !). Noting your comment about suspending the lavvu or using a tripod - I have seen someone on Etsy selling a 3D printed tripod cap that goes inside into which you can fit three poles (or cut some sticks when in the woods)
I do have one of the 3D printed caps and I've also had a zip fitted and was thinking of doing a follow up video on the mods I've done to my tents.
You can use different sizes together
I love the Lavvu and if separated. One in the rucksack and one as a poncho covers rucksack too. Best of both worlds. Waterproof clothing and a shelter
It's a versatile bit of kit.
Great comparison and love the format. I might just try the Dutch Army tent as I have not heard anything good about the French F1.
The French f1 is good if you get the canvas version and weather it before use. The Dutch army is one of my faves.
Must admit i'm a Lavvu fan too. Heavy, but cosy. I've cut a walking staff the same height as the poles. Great vid mate.
Yeah, definitely not one to carry for a long distance. I'm planning on a few mods at some point in the future 🙂
Question then, is your tent/lean to plus rain gear plus coat all that much lighter?
I would say my hiking gear is definitely lighter especially in the summer.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts understandable, but don't always bring the lavvu in good weather either. But that seams to comparing apples to oranges straw man argument. But your reply was still vague.
Unless you spend a great deal of money, most tents arnt that light. Rain gear and coats usually seam to soak up any weight savings is my point.
My base hiking belt is 12 lbs, my ladies is less. Solo I'm self saficient, she carries comfort items primarily. An additional 4 pounds each is marginal to us. So 16 or less pounds each is very doable here. Even with wool blankets we are at 20 lbs or less each. And yes wool is heavy too, but also is multi functional item.
I have a variety of different gear for various situations and also pick and choose what I take out depending on what I fancy using. I don't get hung up on weight unless I'm doing a long hike which is normally in warmer weather. Your right about the weight of a standard tent being similar unless you pay big money.
I’ve got two of the Lavuu tents, two of the French tents with one the older cotton type and the other not and two of the GI shelter half tents. Was looking at the Dutch one but heard as you mentioned that they leak at the zippers.
The Dutch can leak, I've sewn flaps over the zip on mine but it was still one of my favourite tents before then.
I've heard & read that the French tent has a propensity for leakage through the seams. Some people here on TH-cam who have tested it are 50/50 between sealing the seams, and putting up a tarp as a rain fly. As of today (04Feb22) the French tents are selling for $50 to $65 U.S. from three legit military surplus online stores. The one man Dutch Army tents are not to be found. Now if a manufacturer was to reproduce it, in a 1 and 2 man version, that would be my choice. Followed by the French with a fly. I'm in the deep U S. South so I'd need to rig up some mosquito netting for any of these surplus tents. Enjoyed your reviews. Detailed and thorough !
I gave mine multiple soakings with a hose to tighten up the weave before using and had no problems with leaks. I think some people go out straight out after buying and then have issues. If I know it's going to be heavy rain I'll take a tarp just to make it easier when packing away. If you can find a Dutch army tent they zip together to create a 2 man version, something I've yet to try.
Thanks for watching.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I recently purchased the nylon F-2, new, unissued, in perfect condition. I seam sealed every seam - took the entire weekend - and gave a spray of water proof. I've been in it in a moderate thunderstorm and had no leakage. Mine didn't have any mosquito netting but I hung and draped a section over the front door with good results. It's quite roomy inside and comfortable for two average adults.
Sounds like you got on well with it, good idea with the mosquito net.
I have all these tents, buy far my favorite is the dutch tent mine has the storm flaps on zips. I just bought the Hungarian one today looking forward to receiving it
I do love the Dutch tent, it's certainly one of my favourites. I've added storm flaps myself so I'm confident with it now. Enjoy your Hungarian.
Flaps on the zips are rare and transform the tent.
Good presentation!
Having served in both the US and Estonian Armies, for many years, many considered the, French F1 Tent to be the most efficient overall best Individual Soldier Ground Troops tent until the advent of the new generations of supported frame tents.
Cheers, good to get some feedback from someone with field experience 👍
I like the very good woodland camouflage of my Dutch army tent .
Same here, it blends in quite well.
I like the lavuu tent because you could decide to use the half shelter and the other as a poncho or you could make camp sit one half and take the other half with you on your hike as a portable emergency shelter it just gives you way more options and flexibility.
It is very versatile and I like how it can be modified in various ways to make it taller, longer etc.
I sometimes pitch half a lavuu opposite the door of my tent if camping for a few days, as a shelter, store, wet area, cooking spot etc.
As to a bag, there is a German army poncho hood that is ideal. As a hood and as a bag. I got them from the Finnish Guys at " where's the liquor."
re-watched this video. you mentioned adding a skirt to the lavvu or the zeltbahn. i also have a size2 lavvu & plan on adding a skirt to it. i am looking at around 16 inches of height attachment point would be inside the tent at about 2inches. with matching gromments for tent pegs at ground level. the height was chosen so i could use us army shelter half tent poles for the skirt & stake them out.
Sounds good. I've not got around to a skirt mod but I have been sourcing material for an extension between the 2 halves.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts so going for a bell type design? try 1.5 to 2 meters in length.
I have most of the tents you have reviewed. But yet again I notice, you don't have the very effective rain fly for the French army F1 tent. I have 4 F1 tent they all came with the rain fly, which can be pitched on its own if needed. Great wee tents and warm, used mine up in Glen Etive. In the Highlands. No problems & very cozy. Liked your review. Many thanks.
I've been looking for a rain fly for a while now as they're really hard to find. Please let me know if you ever see one available as I love the tent and want to make it as cosy as possible.
Thanks for watching.
This is very well filmed, and makes me look at the Dutch army tent. Also well done making it look like I did nothing to help around camp.... 😆
You were chopping garlic in the background while I lit the fire 😉
@@ECWoodlandCrafts oh definitely sweaty work... 😆
This has popped up just at the right time. I am thinking about getting a new tent, and after watching this I am now convinced on the Dutch. 👍 Regards JB.
Glad I could help 🙂
Well. as long you dont have to carry it
Good video . Iv got a few of these tents the Dutch army is my favourite
Thanks for sharing
My Dutch army is the one I go to the most. Thanks for watching.
Mate great little look at those canvas military tents. I have a german army flecktarn which I love although it did leak a bit the other night and as you say weighed a small fortune the next day . Still love it though. Anyway take care mate 👍
I've had my eye on a flecktarn for a while to add to the collection, maybe next year 🙂
I've only used it overnight once and it was continual rain . Might've been the way I had it set up but some water got in . I survived though and will test it again . Cheers mate take care 👌
@@treksntarps Usually the water leaks trough the arm holes, this happens when there are wrinkls in the shelter half not setting them up correctly.
Those wrinkles have somtimes the tendency to channel the water right into the armeholes.
The solution is to sew those armeholes shut and at that opportunity sew a loop at the center of the shelter halfes. This can be used to install guye lines preventing the sagging in of the halfes and giving more space
@@stefanh.5543 Hi Stefan. No it was absolutely drenched and was dripping through where there were no holes or seems ( a bit like a soaked sponge )
It was torrential rain and was ok until the middle of the night.
I think one half of it is much older than the other , but it kept heavy rain off for a good while .
Take care👍🏕
Oh, also a well done video there. I’m gonna pass on the Zeltbahn as I’m 6’2”.
Good idea, I'm no where near that tall and I find it too small. Thanks for watching 🙂
Nice to see a vid with a good comparison.....🙂
There is a version of the Dutch tank with flaps over the zips......no worries at all. Only use proofer as a very last resort on cotton/polycotton tents. Once done it will have to be repeated over time..
On the lavvu, 2 poles, not three (not needed) on the outside.....brilliant. IF you are under six foot 🙂 F1 works well, F2 leaks....
Someone knows their military tents 😉
Got or had them all at sometime...🙂Sad really....but it's all what got me out there...@@ECWoodlandCrafts
I have a couple of French ones and a Lavvu. Just bought a Dutch one. Hopefully I can get some time in it.
Excellent. They're all good tent in their own ways. I struggle to pick a favourite.
Thanks for the nice comparison.
With freezing temperatures, can you recomend the hungarian with a tent stove?
Thanks. I would recommend a lavvu with a stove as there's lots more room inside, the Hungarian is a bit tight for space.
All these are pretty durable and cool. But seems to me the cult following on the zeltbahn poncho type are because you can use a stove in the tent without melting it like any nylon tent. But the Dutch canvass tent you could do the same and just cut a foldable flap in the floor for your stove. Fold it back in warmer weather. I don't really get the appeal of the linkable zeltbahn types except in winter where there are no bugs
There's definitely a bit of a trend towards the poncho types. I've gone off the zeltbahn as it doesn't have a lot of ground room but I still love my lavvu especially in the winter.
A fair bit of headroom in the old Dutch tent. Well yeah there has to be cause the average length of a Dutchman is about 6’4” (194ish cm)
The lavvu also has a good amount of head room, both that and the Dutch army have the most height.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts they all looked fine to me. They’re nice finds. And every army has its different purpose. Here in the Netherlands it’s mostly mild weather untill fall really starts. Then it’s wet windy and cold. Sorta ocean line Connecticut.
Great Review Thanks from a New Subscriber !
Thanks for watching and thanks for the sub 🙂
Good video I have the F1 if it's heavy rain I put 3 x 3 tarp over it never a problem I also have Hungarian zeltbahn love that too ,but yet to camp in it I'm 5'7/8 if your over that height, id say stay away from the Hungarian,but everyone's different just my opinion, unless u take pole out the middle but love both tent's, thinking about polish lavvu next but quite happy with the two I got a moment, cheers for video 👍🏼
I'm definitely going to try the zeltbahn without the pole as it's a bit of a tight squeeze for me. A lavvu without the pole has loads of room. I'll probably take it on my next outing 🙂
Thanks for the video! What pants are those? I've seen them in a couple of your videos, so they must be pretty durable. I'd like to see a recommended outerwear video! Thanks again!
They are Game Excel Ripstop Waterproof Trousers. I tend to use them in the cooler months as they are lined. I've had them many years and they're still going strong.
That's a good idea for a video, I might just do that 🙂
Nice collection of tents. You might want to check out a couple of US military tents. They are the US army Improved combat shelter or ICS, the army TCOP or Tent, Combat on Person and finally the US marine Corp 2man combat tent. If you can get any one of these I'm sure you will love them. I have them all along withe the F2 French commando tent and a Swedish Zeltbahn.
They're definitely something I'd be interested in, not sure how easy to get hold of over here but I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for watching.
Grat video ed. I have a German pup tent. I like it if you want to have a try with that let me know. I think you'll like it more compared to the zeltbahn.
Cheers mate, I'd definitely like to give it a try, I have had my eye on one for a while now 🙂
Très bonne présentation 👍
Merci bien 👍
Love the Lavvu. Trying to get one but can’t find anywhere!
Military mart get them in from time to time but you have to get in quick and they're not as cheap as they used to be.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts What size? 1/2/3?
Mainly 1s but recently they got a batch of 2 and 3s, they did go pretty quickly.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts yep. Just wondering what’s the bed size for single person hot tenting.
Any should work if you didn't have a centre pole. I have a size 2 which works for me with a pole and room to spare for a stove.
Hi buddy .. love the Dutch tent & French tent .. love the look of both .. be great if the French came in a Camo … cheers Chris & Sam
A British army camo tarp fits perfectly over the French army tent so I usually use that to help blend in 😉
@@ECWoodlandCrafts yes , canna beat a Basha , tons of uses cheers Chris & Sam
I've got the same selection, except for the Hungarian, I've got the German flecktarn. Also my French one is nylon.
The Hungarian is too small to be any good. I'd like to try the German flecktarn.
You know, it's odd. We all love canvas tents but the only reasonably priced ones available are these ex-military ones. It seems like it shouldn't be that difficult to sew a simple canvas tent. It's surprising there aren't new ones for sale. Thanks for the vid. I've ordered the DPM tent for me and my 3 year old to have a night in the woods.
As a kid all family tents were canvas and relatively affordable but I guess modern materials have taken over and are cheaper to manufacture.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts Makes sense. I just wonder why nobody is meeting the demand for these. Unless the demand is really small from people like us. There is something so much more wholesome about a canvas tent. I have fond memories of sleeping in my dad's orange rover canvas tent.
Nowhere near as cheap as they were a few years ago 😞
I love the idea of that hungarian square version of the lavvu but I just dont think I would fit. Im only 5 10 but add a sleeping system and Im pretty sure ill be rubbing head and toe against canvas
Yeah, it's disappointingly small, I never use mine.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts Thanks for saving me some money mate.
Im going for the dutch one. In the netherlands we can get them for €30 euro a piece. Is there a big price diffrence to where you live?
A good choice. They go for around £35 here which is roughly €40 so a little different.
Thanks for watching 🙂
Not to bad, the lavvu are black gold arround here, you cant get one thats bigger then a size 1
I was lucky to get the size 2 when I did. I wouldn't fancy trying to get hold of a size 2 or 3 now.
I want one that doesn't need stakes. I can set up on concrete or rocks up in the mountains
You might struggle with that but I guess if the guy ropes could be secured to a rock or something it would be OK.
Hmm.. This video format and wool hat seem oddly familiar 🤔
Yeah, the hat I've had for years. I can't deny I was influenced but I'm trying to find my own way 🤷♂️
God bless you sir !
Cheers
Is it possible to set up a single Lavvu as a sort of one man bivvy?
For sure, people quite often camp out with a half lavvu set up.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I've seen people do an open shelter kind of thing with a half lavvu. But I mean like a enclosed low profile kind of bivvy that protects from wind and rain. So if you know a way to set a half lavvu up as a bivvy that protects you from the weather, I'd love to know how before buying one. I essentially want a full on low profile one man tent that I can wear, rather than carry lol.
I guess you could do something if you made a low frame. Check out swedwoods he does lots of different configurations with lavvus.
If you don't mind my asking, how tall are you? I'm going to order one soon and am 5'9", and I worry it's not big enough.
I'm 5'8" and apart from the zeltbahn I have plenty of room in all the tents even with my boots on. What type are you going for?
Is there anyone who aspires to be a "bushcrafter" who has not got a Polish Lavvu yet?
More than likely, they sell for extreme prices these days.
So I like the Dutch army tent, but you didn’t tell us how tall you are. I’m 6’3” barefoot.
I'm roughly 5'8'' and there's plenty of room to spare. I normally have my pack in with me. I'd guess you'd fit but with not much room for any kit.
That music is also great what is that called?
Most of the music I use comes from TH-cam audio, you can find the names in the description 👍
Yu can't stop till you have them all.
True
I prefer the old style tents,
Same here.
I think the Dutch is a nice design. Could you get one in modern materials?
I honestly don't know. I know canvas is heavy but it's great at keeping cool in the sun and the heat inside during colder times. I find modern materials don't regulate temperatures or breath as well.
excellent video friend! You only need the flecktarn tent of the german army and the plash platanka of russia!
They're on my list, hopefully next year.
Did your Dutch army tent come with that carry bag?
It did, and I'm very grateful for it as it makes it so easy to transport, but I'm not sure if it comes as standard with all tents.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts ok, mine didn’t come with one, looks great that bag, I wonder if I can get hold of one
@longjohn3475 you could always give Military mart a shout, they might be able to help you out.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts yes I’ll try that thanks
Are Hungarians shorter? The French I've used and no thanks, too heavy all of them.
They may well be.
All the tents are weighty but that's canvas, definitely not hiking tents but good for an overnight if you've not got far to go.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts I've used the British & French Army versions in their "natural habitat" should i say. I like the look of the Dutch and I think many modern Cordura and poly tents are based on it, I'm thinking Lanshan something or other. Thanks for posting.
i take out the dutch tents, zipp them together with my partner.
plenty of space for 2 persons with 120l backpack.
Awesome, I've been thinking about getting another and trying that.
@@ECWoodlandCrafts i won't regret it i promise, i am going to modify one side to accommodate a small ammo can stove.
As I am planning to go to Sweden end of march 🇸🇪
Sounds awesome, have a great trip.
If I had a sherpa to carry my stuff I'd take the Dutch one everyday.
Yeah, it's good but a heavy beast.
lol
I want to be this person when i grow up.
Freaking 10:10.
Best it gets without being in USA.
There's thankfully only one me 😉
Thanks for watching 🙂
One of my dutch army tents has flaps over the zips
There are some available out there but they're quite hard to get hold of.
Got it of eBay was like brand new and had a few bits my others didn't fantastic video now u have me looking at more tents😅
@kennethalcorn7104 What were the other bits you got with it?
Original pegs with the bag alloy poles in bag, my other tens had wood poles, looked to be original cords on the new tent it had flaps over zips kinda feel bad using it not kidding when I say it's like brand new
@kennethalcorn7104 n
Nice. They're meant to be used so have fun with it 👍
Having camped in the Hungarian zeltbahn you better have a piss jug in the tent with you if you have to go in the middle of the night!
Due to its size, I've not bothered with it but I've added a zip to my lavvu for a quick exit.
Hi. Good material but... "Polish lavvu" isn't correct name of this tent. Name "lavvu" is from the Sami (Laponian) language and means a Sami tent, kind of lower tipi. In Polish we don't have and use this word: lavvu.. and when U are using it, it's a mistake and funny. No Pole or Slav call it "lavvu". It's like calling the Indian teepee or Lapland lavvu using the name: plash palatka... or more correctly the pwashch pawatka (Polish: płaszcz pałatka).
I know that the name "Polish lavvu" has become popular and that this tent exists in the world under this name but ... I will describe briefly the situation that took place in the Polish Military Property Agency where such a tent could be purchased: when, out of curiosity whether he would associate this name, I used the words: Polish lavvu, the seller - soldier - did not know what it was about. He immediately knew the word "pałatka" (your "palatka"). Our army does not use this name "LAVVU" either ;-)
Your "plash palatka" is an incorrect attempt to English transliterate the Polish name of this coat-tent. It should be "pwashch" or - making things a bit easier - "plashch" (Polish "płaszcz"), which means coat. Palatka (Polish "pałatka"), means tent and should also be written and pronounced slightly differently, because the closest equivalent of the letter "ł" is the English "w". The completely correct English pronunciation/transliteration of these words would be: p-w-a-s-h-c-h p-a-w-a-t-k-a (w as in "walk", sh as in "show", ch as in "cherry", ). Use a translator with pronunciation to check the pronunciation of these words: PŁASZCZ PAŁATKA in Polish and you'll understand what's going on.
Płaszcz pałatka means coat-ten, a tent made of a mantle/coat, two in one. We call it short pałatka.
Additionally, if you said "plash" (or plash palatka) to a Polish who doesn't watch English-language bushcraft movies, he or she wouldn't know what it meant, because the word means nothing. He would definitely associate the word plashch, especially if you pronounced it as pwashch ;-)
Thanks for the information. I'll try to use it in future videos. However, I am rather fond of the word lavvu 😉
Remember, if you're miserable for not having a camo tent, just get a camo tarp and put it over the two sides of your tent.
I like both camo and non-camo tents. Thanks for watching.
You only want to be the guy in the middle if you are the one with the bad gas.
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plash palatka
I got one after I made this video but as yet not had the chance to use it. Thanks for watching.