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The entire time Russia was essentially undergoing the process of "We have so many plots against the US we don't know if this is one of ours or just some lunatic".
The funny thing is, when JFK was shot the KGB did an investigation on itself because the officials of the KGB, Khrustchev and the entire Kremlin didn't know if they are involved in the assasination or not. History Matters has made a great video about this
@@mrsboatNah, It was a whole ass CIA conspiracy, with a second shooter to boot. CIA literally did an investigation on itself and "lost the evidence" almost immediately. Lee was just the fall man to give them deniability.
@@mrsboatyou are massively underread in the topic. Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA agent in Russia. Everyone forgets that part on how a CIA agent caught sympathising by the CIA and returned to the USA suddenly ends up shooting the president and then dying before he can testify. Convenient that. Huh.
That’s how much secrecy was involved in espionage back in the day, Governments had to investigate themselves to figure out if they did something. Even the shooters didn’t know who did it.
For those who didnt understand @Rerrvb12 H¡tlers name is Adolf and he went to argentina and kiled him self and his grandad is caled adolfo and comes from argentina and yeah hitler failed art school
@@tde1964 U.S of A weapon industry would like you to differ. Attacking and winning is the best way of making money during war. second best is not being attacked.
I think LBJ said later on that Kennedy was one of the only people in Dallas that day who *didn't* show up to see it happen, boy had everyone lining up to get a piece
does it suck that your country could have been more like south korea instead of being a poor hellhole all because a couple communist destroyed your country?
@@oluwaseyijohnson3162learn history, Vietnam was fucked way before the US got there, all you did was make it worse, like in most countries you invade or destroy.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill. There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it. You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like: -Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit -Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder) I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts. The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
tbh whoever fought the entire war of ww1 especially on the western front have the legal right to become insane after the fuckery that happend there @@pauloazuela8488
@@pauloazuela8488Not even that. All chemical weapon had long lasting consequences that were almost not understood at that time. Basicaly creating gulf war syndrome on much much larger scale.
I was visiting my grandpa in Argentina and was looking through his basement when i found a cool old helmet with lighting bolts on the side, I went up to my grandpa and asked if he was an electrician he said no he worked with gas. 🥁
Quiccck reminder from your local history buff. We didn't lose Vietnam. We withdrew because the war was pointless. Nixon was fed bogus Intel that the Russians were helping a Vietnamese terrorist group called the vietkong in trade for a place to put an ICBM launch site and storage facility in there country. (Russia is like Texas, when they do something. It's HUGE! It was practically going to be the whole country!) As it turns out, the Russians knew nothing about this plan because they didn't make it. It was a fake to get America's help to squash the terrorist group from the Vietnam government. We didn't lose, we also didn't WIN. Bit we learned a valuable lesson about taking a secret agents word seriously, lol. *cough* The CIA is a bullshit organization that has gotten us involved in many wars of imperial intrigue *cough*
Hold on, I met an electrician named Aldofo and even shook hands with him. He seemed like a nice guy. Edit: I just saw him again today, my Dad even laughed with him. He seems like a good guy. Edit: He did have a moustache, but he appeared to have shaved before today.
@@froggart5295 their military failed miserably against a militia because the Vietnam military is still in Cambodia when china invade Vietnam ("Their" is china)
Joke from one of my former pupil : "In 1914, soldiers thought they would come back for Christmas. They did. But for Christmas 1918." The class laugh so they knew their lesson Well.
@tacidian7573 yes, we often find skeletons and shells in the fields of the north. Some villages and small towns still have their arsenals and stocks full of ammo and bombs which were never used (or the army throw it in a quarry or lake in order to "save" it from the Germans, resulting in the area being ultra toxic and polluted).
@@florianpierredumont4775Bloody hell. It happens very infrequently, but some explosives (un)used in the Nigeria-Biafra war which ended in 1970 are still found today. War is bad.
@UkraineUASlava it's almost like mass bombing cities and the innocent leads to higher casualty. China and the USSR never wanted Vietnam to win the war, just supply them enough to put countries in never ending debts and favors. Almost like some countries that are at war today, don't let this ignorance you have becomes your very own mistake.
@UkraineUASlava china literally invaded vietnam 4 years after they’ve won the war against the us and south vietnam. Nobody said vietnam wasn’t supplied, but the tanks and jets are used to fight the war for reunification, not to demolish the opposition by bombing civilians and forest, or releasing agent orange and chemical to rural area.
@UkraineUASlava you do realise that the war is 20 years long right? those amount means nothing compared to the weapons the US bought in. You also conveniently hide the timing of China's intervention. They only sent in 300k troops from 1965 to 1968. That is the total number of people they sent in, the most was only 170k. The intention was to keep Hanoi from falling, not for Vietnam to win the war. As soon as Vietnam was gaining advantage in 1970, China pulled back all of their aid and stop the supply line. They wanted to keep the war to go as long as possible, then when Vietnam was the weakest, they strike themselves. Also what crime did they do in Cambodia or Laos? Do you actually read history or just read the headline? They were freeing Laos from Indochina/French, freeing Cambodia from Pol Pot who was murdering their own people and attacking Vietnam's border. These days, Laos is a close ally to Vietnam, while Cambodia is a puppet government of the Chinese. Both Laos and Vietnam are still severely impacted by the US and France until today. You can still find active minefields in and disfigured people thanks to agent orance in both countries.
@@RobbieNguyenThat's the fatal flaws I've always saw with those specific conspiracy theorists. The CIA got all its power from presidential support and homeland polarity, and Kennedy's death effectively sainted him depolarizing the conservative heavy nation and removing Kennedy's support of the cold war
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq at that point the cia had more power than the president and they wanted to keep it that way. do some research on what jfk was convinced he knew about the 3 letter agencies, hell listen to rfk jr talk about it.
@@knightblade0188 if you do some research you will find out that the USA army actually lost battles and the thing that most americans continuously parrot "we won every battle" is pure bullshit.
@@knightblade0188They lost politically because their people had no interest in fighting the war in the end, not because the politicians fumbled the war.
honestly it the idea the US and Vietnam just confusedly fighting for 20 years only to get confused and forget is pretty fucking hilarious and also typical. Oh wait its because of the french
@valcan321 the Vietnamese knew what they were fighting for, they were just protecting their land and themselves. The Americans were the ones who had no clue why they were there in the first place
@@odd-eyes6363That is a common misconception as the Vietnamese were mostly fighting other Vietnamese that didn't want to be under communist rule. You can trace most of the Vietnamese diaspora, especially to the U.S. which houses the largest population of Vietnamese immigrants, on that one war. The ones that fled even have a specific term to name that day, Black April.
@@Ranchor489 There are no excuses for seperating the whole country. The country nearly had a unification in a earlier year, but Non-Communism messed it up, which costed other 21 years to finally united the country. Opportunities had existed, but one just rejected it.
@@caominhpham7135 That does not matter if there is dissent. No excuses surely because they just outright waged yet another revolutionary war and killed the opposition. That's when America had to physically intervene with Operation Passage to Freedom. The ARVN just didn't sprout out of thin fucking air.
@@alro8613 Actually, that would be the communists who agreed to the treaty of paris, effectively giving up the fight- and the 94th congress elected a year later who voted to withdraw both troops and material aid to South Vietnam, leaving it vulnerable and pissing away everything their own troops fought for.
reminds me of a good old joke about time traveler who goes to 1963 and asks a person is it before or after jfk was shot and the man replies: " 2 days before"
the democrat party and their lap dogs shot and killed JFK in order to make their puppet LBJ president who passed the welfare act returning blacks back to the plantation which in the 1960's was democrat control government.
The U.S. withdrew from the Vietnam war after the Paris peace accords which ended the war. The treaty was broken and the war started again but the U.S. did not return because the war was extremely unpopular in the U.S. During the war the US wasn’t not allowed to enter North Vietnam so they stayed in the south helping the south against the Vietcong. In the end only 50k US troops were killed compared 2 million Vietcong. It’s not a cope If it’s historically accurate.
Space was an area which both sides didn't want to weaponise so soon. Exploring space without the help of high performance Computers like today must have been a real pain, no wonder failure rates were high back then. Moreover, if both sides were willing to work together in space, chances are it'd improve relations back on the ground too (nuclear war was a very real fear in the 60's and 70's)
they didnt like him. he was a threat to their sovereignty why would they like him. the soviets were just very diplomatically courteous, but they were under no illusion of the US gov being likable or cooperable. they simply had hopes they were to try and form some good will.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill. There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it. You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like: -Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit -Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder) I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts. The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
It’s a lesson in using strategies that actually work. The US got the dumb idea that war is about killing as many of the enemy as possible without doing things like breaking their ability to fight, destroying supplies, capturing territory etc. because each battle the US would absolutely mop the floor with the NVA and Viet Cong in terms of casualties but then the US forces would immediately leave and the next group of NVA and viet cong fighters would come in and assume the post almost as if nothing happened
@@ryancialone3045 yea, as long as the Vietnamese had one person left, willing to fight for the cause, US looses... Its less about troop morale, more about having a sound strategy for success. Imma guess they thought it'd be like Korea, kill a massive bunch and negotiate a deal, but there they could negotiate with/pressure China not North Korea itself....
@@ryancialone3045actually americans weren’t mopping the floor with the Vietcong, thats just propaganda, the true is that the casualties in north vietnam and usa were almost the same
@@PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE *the truth. learn grammar or keep quiet. what you said is factually untrue and is not corroborated by any of the combatants' statistics on either side.
My grandpa fought in Vietnam, he said once he put an entire mag into a NVA soldier and it never stopped him, then a mg gunner cut him in half and basically slowed him down enough to die from bleeding out before getting to them, but he never stopped charging while being lit up. Shit was crazy over there
That or it was drugs. It had a similar effect on Germans in WWII. And you apparently preferred the mass graves and killing fields brought by Russian backed colonizers from up north. Independence my butt.
@@ValidTfor fking Americans to stop communism spread in SEA, which will never happen. USSR once want to put a mil base in Vietnam and we refused, we are the communist but we serve no country
@@ShadowWolfRising Saying America won WW1 and WW2 is like saying the fat kid who only starts running the 1000 meter race 10 meters from the finish line at the very end of the race won it because he crossed first when all other members of the race ran the whole 1000 meters and he only ran 10.
@futuricoomMy nigga, the Confederacy seceded from the union because they were opposed to the general trend of American ideologies at the time. It was literally and actually, ideologically and logistically, a completely separate entity to the Union from whence it came. They had their own damn money, flag and anthem. The only reason people don’t think of it like that is because they lost. It’s like trying to argue that North and South Korea are the same country because they both came from a common ancestor.
Veitman was a whole ass "fuck it, random bullshit go!" The higher ups had no real strategy and they never advanced on a single goal. It was just fight after fight.
The highter ups in the military were tied up by the highter ups in the politic sphere, wich were to scare of a war with China, that at that moment had nukes.
@@chrismiller5875 No, not in the slightest. Generals knew what kind of war they were in, but were tied up in what the could do about it by the highter ups in the goverment, that were too afraid of a war with China (That by that point had nukes) similarly to Korea. And no, the North Vietnam soldiers did not outsmart the EEUU ones... they were just more resilient. Casualties wise, even witouth counting civilian ones, South Vietnam and american forces were moping the floor with the North Vietnam army, and despise how popular they are nowadays, the Vietcong had very little impact compared to the North Vietnam regular army.
Americans: Invading Afghanistan in the name of eliminating terrorist. Americans in the end of war, making negotiation with Taliban that don't kill us while our soldiers leave Afghanistan.
The Taliban never really posed a big threat to the US military itself. They did however, pose a massive threat to the weak and corrupt government we left behind to "defend" Afghanistan.
@@dangerdrone1605 threat or not. It the surprise to the world that so called world power have to make negotiation with bunch of cave man which are fighting with ancient weapons in order for their soldier to leave safely.
@@dangerdrone1605 considering your main goal after the initial invasion was to secure a pro-westwen government and said government collapsed almost instantly while you guys were trying to leave its clear that you guys failed at completing your objective. At least the communist government left behind by the soviets managed to hold out for a year or so before finally falling.
The Vietnam war meme is about the stupidest thing I've seen. It was actually the US who was playing the sounds of the dead in the jungle to frighten the Vietcong.
Depends on the context of the war. Its different when the conflict can in no way spread to your home but if there ever was an invasion of the American homeland I have no doubt that you would see a decades long insurgency.@@JustinAndrews74
@@JustinAndrews74 It's different when you are fighting on your own land. If the US was ever invaded, americans wouldn't stop fighting until the invaders were pushed out either - even if it did take a thousand years.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill. There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it. You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like: -Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit -Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder) I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts. The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
@@JustinAndrews74Americans can stomach long wars, its just after a few years we do a morality check on ourselves, start to feel bad and decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze afterall, especially when wars go into new election cycles or if new leadership is elected. Before world War 1&2 America tried to remain isolationist but eventually felt badly for not helping as much as we could have in ww1, then with ww2 and the axis powers and nazis America collectively decided fuck it then if you can't behave yourselves and started getting in everyone's business since the advent of the atomic bombs placed what many felt was a sort of national responsibility for global stability. The CIA in particular took to their task far too overzealously and eventually you get the road to hell paved with good intentions and the bodies of innocents we're at at current. I pray America never has to be serious about a war again
@@georgeousthegorgeousTrue. Even if he was an asshole kgb would not dare to even put a finger on him, as it is very very dangerous move. That can even result in nuclear war, which no one wanted.
@@georgeousthegorgeousfascist US respecting the fascist Nazi USSR, as fascists ALWAYS do, yet now the US is not as fascist anymore but Nazi ruSSia is almost as fascist as they were when they started ww2
@@Journey_to_who_knows yeah, then China invaded Vietnam a few ywars later in 1979......China got beat so badly the Chinese retreated before 1980. China could not even last 1 YEAR fighting in Vietnam despite having more advantages such as, being on the border so there is easy acces to supplies ans transporting equipment (the USA has to move tanks across the pacific ocean, that made it harder to fight there), also China had a way bigger population and could muster a much much larger army than the USA, ans China was more acclimated to the climate they would be fighting in and China knew their enemy better. Despite all those advantages China has fighting in Vietnam compared to the USA, China still retreated before 1980 ans could'nt last 1 year. Chinas invasion of Vietnam in 1979 was a disaster. It made Americas vietnam war look like a impressive win in comparison.
@@nicklibby3784 To be fair, that's more a testimate to how badly prepared China was for a fight. Their logistics were so badly handled that they lost almost as many men to disease and malnourishment than combat.
I mean technically it’s both. If we had stayed and continued we would have won but at that point the casualties wouldn’t justify the endeavor so decided to give up.
@@TK-do7ei I didn’t say we won. I said we could have won. I’m not an idiot. The United States has the power to crush any country in the world if we throw our full weight into it. We don’t because it will never justify the cost.
I mean yea, its pretty much what happens. US lost that one because Vietnam didn't fucking care how many they killed (rightfully so). As long as one Vietnamese guy was alive farming rice and/or hiding in a hole somewhere, the US looses...
The U.S. withdrew from the Vietnam war after the Paris peace accords which ended the war. The treaty was broken and the war started again but the U.S. did not return because the war was extremely unpopular in the U.S. During the war the US wasn’t not allowed to enter North Vietnam so they stayed in the south helping the south against the Vietcong. In the end only 50k US troops were killed compared 2 million Vietcong. It’s not a cope If it’s historically accurate.
If there had been one surviving North Vietnamese or Viet Cong soldier left alive when the last American troops left, he would rightfully have declared victory. From 1965 to 1970, America's goal changed from fighting Communism to finding a non-humiliating way of being able to withdraw from Vietnam. The VC and NVA never changed their goal of kicking foreign influence, be it French, American,or Chinese, out of their country. We misunderstood those people.
Ame rika don’t understand anyone. They have all sorts of theories but they don’t work for a reason. They don’t respect d natives, whom r d only ones that can show ‘em d truth. And not d ones that’ll betray their own to side with a foreign power. Those r d dislo yal trash. If they betrayed their own, how can they b trus ted??
at the beginning of WW1, people hoped to be back by Christmas, in 1918 they hoped the suffering would end and afterwards the people in it said that it was pretty fun
Don't inflate facts. There was a single soldier who was a total crazyhead who said "All in all it was pretty fun". One single person. Everyone else hated it. Or was dead. Actually most people were dead, WW1 was one of the most bloody wars in history.
@@JoeMonhoe although the usa could have won the war in a few months, they failed to steamroll the entire north vietnam after decades of fighting. The USA chose to wage a limited war, and they failed to realise that they must go all in and give it all they've got. Had the USA launched a total war, north vietnam would have been steamrolled in months. Therefore, USA lost the war even though it could have won.
@diegode415 The US withdraws from the Vietnam war due to political tensions. Not because they felt like the war was being increasingly unwinnable , The casualties were 50,000 to 2 million. It's not even close. There's no debating this .
@@SmokestackOG the U.S led coalition and government of south Vietnam had 800,000 dead, 1 million injured, and another 1 million captured by the Viet Cong, not to mention they weren't even scratching the Viet Cong as they just kept coming back and then Laos had a communist insurgency which the U.S also got involved in and the U.S also had to get involved in Cambodia and back up the Khmer Rouge. By the way, a highly sophisticated army like the U.S can't be suffering 50,000 dead and also can't be showing their allies dead and wounded soldiers for their efforts in helping their asses in a war that isn't going as planned
@diegode415 again 50, 000 to 2 million , all major engagements of the war were won ,and that was within being logistically and military supplied by russia and china simultaneously , But at the end of the day it was the US people who wanted to come home. Look at Russia's war today. They have suffered 300, 000 casualties, and that's more than triple the numbers of our that we lost in the vietnam war , And they are second to us in military power.
the way people portrayed "vietnam" would be more realistic for afghanistan, no matter how hard the US copes that is literally how they felt in afghanistan, cave/road ambushes, ineffectiveness of air assets against caves, gorilla attacks, attacking logistics, afghanistan was so much harder than Iraq for NATO/ISAF
@@callmeari6254the US won a majority of the battles but each battle was a aimless mess that achieved no tangible goals other than body count. No territory captured, no industry destroyed. You can’t win a war through body count alone. There’s no way to kill that many people especially when you are letting them come to you and not invading their territory
@@ryancialone3045 yea they won in every region thanks to isaf cooperation just to lose the region right away any way, I don't recall seeing the US forces being successful in any region which was far away from kabul, they lost the most ridiculous battles like the battle for wanat which the opposition only had 500 troops, with total air superiority in the region they still lost. they somehow even lost a helicopter with 30 units onboard to an enemy that doesn't even have air defenses. edit: lastly technically the forces didn't come with much of a big size unlike how you mentioned, the taliban at most of its power only had about 80,000 fighters 11 times smaller than the ukrainian army today.
@@ryancialone3045 well not really, while the main problem with vietnam was the lack of moral the problem in afghanistan was the unbearable expenses, quite not even related topics, in fact moral was not even a concern as the isaf was made up of different groups due to same reason troop replacement could be conducted very easily.
@@fluffyseal8782 You seem to struggle with the concept of "can't" vs "won't." There was very little support for the war in the first place and very little to gain by winning it. That's why the US backed out. If the US had enough incentive to close the game, they would have. No question.
@@Russia_russi I guess that means Hitler won WW2 then. After all German casualties were far lower than allied casualties both civilian and otherwise. The US barely killed any soldiers and mostly targeted civilians so the 1.3 million number is a little misleading to say the least
This reminds me of a recent conversation with a Swiss woman who was talking about the difficulties of acquiring Swiss citizenship. She said "Switzerland wants rich clients"; she referred to Switzerland's citizens as clients of the state. Something about that struck me as very true
didnt help that a lot of them were criminals trying to dodge jail. not exactly sending their best and hardly motivating to the ones who signed up on their own lol.
@@conan2096that’s not it. The issue was having your whole war strategy based solely on having a high K/D ratio and not doing practical things like destroying infrastructure and capturing territory. No one has ever won a war through K/D ratio alone
i get that, but he was talking about the troops morale...the GIs didnt really have good motivation to be there. guerilla war sucks enough as it is, but when your team is filled with literal criminals trying to dodge jail and any local might pull out a gun, it takes the fun out of war lol. most patrols literally just went out of vision and sat in the jungle close to their bases till it was time to go back.@@ryancialone3045
FINALLY someone mentioned the fact that Switzerland stored gold. Fun fact: they didn’t return it to Germany and gave a half of it to USA. That’s business! 😎
@@HOI4notsoproplayer it was more like North and South Vietnam in boxing ring, they are fighting amongst each other, and then USA jumps in from the crowd and hits North Vietnam with a brick, and before it gets up, it repeatedly kicks him on the ground, and when North Vietnam gets up, he just slaps USA, and USA begins crying and runs out of the ring.
Hippies, known for being able to force congress to do things lol. Presence in vietnam was a huge issue at the time and people were rioting across the country to leave vietnam because we kept sending americans to their deaths. When you leave your ally and let them fall to the enemies you protected them from, you got your ass kicked. If you leave the ring because you're tired, you still lose.
The whole lost war narrative is just leftist revisionism to strengthen criticism of US foreign policy. The US defended South Vietnam and wrecked the NVA throughout the war, eventually forcing a peace treaty between the two sides. South Vietnam fell after a peace treaty that was signed was promptly reneged on. Don't see how the US in any way is the loser here.
I know it’s a meme and probably a joke, but I don’t get how Adolf could have escaped. Stalin hated him beyond understanding and so did his soldiers. He wanted to kill everyone around him when hitler killed himself because he wanted him to be hung near Moscow. No one would help him, not the soviets , not Stalin, not anyone. I keep hearing about how some people actually believe it and it angers me.
In Vietnam war, 1965 - 1970: American's allies : South Vietnam 1.1 milions soldiers, South Korea : 250 thousands soldiers, New Zealand + Philippines + Thai + Australia : > 150 thousands soldiers. 400 thousands South Vietnam soldiers were died. South Korea + Philippines + Thai + New Zealand + Australia : > 40 thousands... Why are you forget them ?
It call cope , American fanboy can't resist going around waring on people that doesn't have anything to do with them. They lost a conflict fair and square but refused to believe superior USA can lose anything . I think it funny how they win their independence from another country from across the sea but when vietnamese do it , coper say " it not America soil so it doesn't count"
@@MrBritishEnglishMan Its complete BS, the main types of gas used were Chlorine, Phosgene, and mustard, the first two were Lung injurants, and mustard was a vesicant (causes blisters) none of them "melted faces off".
@@uhtred7860 Well the reason why chemical warfare is a warcrime is because of the use in WW1 when people literally got boiled alive from the inside with then chemicals reacting to their organs. Some just burned your lungs so you could not breathe at all coughing up your own lung until you died. Chemical warfare is insane.
It wasn’t that the US didn’t trust the USSR it was more that the USSR didn’t trust the USSR. They had spies everywhere and were worried one of them acted on their own.
I do love the Vietnam meme. The US had a crazy kill per casualty ratio even among _just_ combatants. It was something like 12 Vietcong and 8 civilians per American casualty. Most of those casualties recovered as well because, you know, western medicine. Meanwhile, the Vietcong lost most of their casualties as fatalities because it’s hard to have a sterile, industrialized medical environment when you’ve been bombed back to the Stone Age.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill. There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it. You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like: -Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit -Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder) I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts. The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after.... It's funny because you do support the fact vietnam is having a hard time is due to US bombing back to stone age, and yet vietnam is doing a huge comeback after US stops crying by revoking it's sanctions on the country.
@@KFC431i’ve only heard of one village being destroyed and they certainly did not count those as combatants killed, in fact those soldiers were court martialed as they should be. The kill numbers might be inflated some but that’s the same with all wars and the ratio still favors america massively. The Tet offensive was the only time the vietcong gained any leverage and it was gained back by the americans by the end of the month. You can’t get your ass handed to you and then claim you won 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
@@randomkyle3Vietcong was a guerrilla full of rice farmers. Not a regular army. They're not able to push back an enemy like an army. They're objective is to survive and they were successfull. Not being able to compleatly end the guerrilla even with help was a huge embarrassment for the US and allies in the war but I guess theyre used to it now days 🤷♂️. The US failed their objective. Having great casualties does not mean you lost. Just ask the Soviet Union in WW2😉
@@KFC431 LIAR - The Vietcong and Vietnam released their death-tolls... Guess what? They line up quite nicely with the claims. So are you telling us the Vietcong and Vietnamese also inflated how many of their soldiers died or what?
@@bearsplitz96that was the strategy the whole time though. Once the viet cong and NVA realized the US wouldn’t actually go for strategic and practical goals like capturing territory and destroying industry and infrastructure all they had to do was outlast them which was easy considering the US waited for the communist forces to come to them.
The US retreated and that was that. It was a one-sided invasion so when the US stopped obviously the Vietnamese stopped too. It's hard to have a war without an opponent.
@@EskChan19 The Vietnam war carried on for two more years after the U.S forces had completely withdrawn. North Vietnam and South Vietnam continued to fight.
@@brennanleadbetter9708 "Vietnam is more socialist than communist" is a sentence I never imagined being said. Socialism is literally a type of Communism.
@zack2804 The two do have some similarities, but they do have some key differences. In communism, all property is owned by the state, while in socialism, individuals can own property. In communism, the state controls the major means of production, like factories and mines. In socialism, the state or government controls the means of production, but individuals can still own property. In communism, the state is responsible for the economy, public order, foreign relations, and defense. In socialism, the state's role changes from political rule to scientific administration of production. In communism, goods are distributed based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". In socialism, economic resources are allocated equally by a democratically-elected government.
@@kangaroosoup. In the way things were set up, yes. They could not invade North Vietnam because China threatened to intervene. So, despite the bombardment, North Vietnam always had the initiative by virtue of that.
@@jackevans7665 In war, is the end result not more important than statistics? Im an American and I still think that America straight up lost the Vietnam War
Actually, back then they WERE. Teenagers were trying to fake being adults so they could get sent off. The war propaganda made the military sound like a fraternity so people did actually think it’d be “fun”.
@@solid_rooster4587 not propaganda in this case US was slaughtering North Vietnam up until they agreed to meet at the table in which a treaty was signed and the US left which was the plan. Afghanistan was a loss but nothing to be upset over as they just mostly hid till we left.
@@solid_rooster4587 no it’s not it’s just there’s different types of treaties and politics involved. Vietnams treaty was a draw where both south and Vietnam agreed to stop fighting and try and work things out while the treaty with Germany was more a conditional surrender in all but name as Germany really couldn’t fight anymore. And if you look both treaties really saw nothing achieved just delayed the conflict also the treaty wasn’t Germanys objective. Wars a really complicated thing where things that look similar are t all that similar.
@@Totemparadox it's as simple as the Americans went into a war with no clear goals in mind, achieved literally nothing, raped and burnt a bunch of women and children and then made absolute fools out of themselves in front of the whole world
@@TotemparadoxVictory: an act of defeating an enemy or opponent in a battle, game, or other competition. Vietnam's objective was invading south vietnam. Arvn's objective was defending it. Now answer this: Who won south vietnam?
Wrecked is a word i would use to describe the nva after losing 1 million men due to u.s. soldiers which by the way were defending SV not attacking North Vietnam for obvious reasons
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When kennedy died, Russia really had no idea if they had a hand in it or not
The entire time Russia was essentially undergoing the process of "We have so many plots against the US we don't know if this is one of ours or just some lunatic".
CIA and AIPAC did it
Opposition done it
@@metalvideos1961_casually commits high treason_
@@usernameaeaeaeaor spreading facts its just how you want to look at it
The funny thing is, when JFK was shot the KGB did an investigation on itself because the officials of the KGB, Khrustchev and the entire Kremlin didn't know if they are involved in the assasination or not.
History Matters has made a great video about this
@@mrsboatNah, It was a whole ass CIA conspiracy, with a second shooter to boot. CIA literally did an investigation on itself and "lost the evidence" almost immediately. Lee was just the fall man to give them deniability.
@@mrsboatyou are massively underread in the topic. Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA agent in Russia. Everyone forgets that part on how a CIA agent caught sympathising by the CIA and returned to the USA suddenly ends up shooting the president and then dying before he can testify.
Convenient that. Huh.
@@mrsboatOfficially* shot by Lee Harvey Oswald
But it obviously wasn't just him
"Hol' up, I don't recall hiring this guy"
That’s how much secrecy was involved in espionage back in the day, Governments had to investigate themselves to figure out if they did something. Even the shooters didn’t know who did it.
Grandpa never told him he failed art school.💀
For those who didnt understand @Rerrvb12
H¡tlers name is Adolf and he went to argentina and kiled him self and his grandad is caled adolfo and comes from argentina and yeah hitler failed art school
199L
1C
He lovvvved gas
900th like
I shit you not, my family found out that my grandma's second husband was an ex SS . He showed up here in CR around early 50s
How can I make money during the war and not be attacked?
Switzerland: Watch me!
Not to be attacked (or attacking) is the only way to make money during a war.
@@tde1964 U.S of A weapon industry would like you to differ. Attacking and winning is the best way of making money during war. second best is not being attacked.
The US made a fuckton of money from both sides at the beginning of WW2.
USA: nah, amateur
@@tde1964no, going to war and win
Or funding both sides
The fact that the USSR and the KGB were like “no we didn’t but it’s fine that you thought that.”
It's understandable.
Yes? What about this fact?
They even investigated themselves because they didn't know if someone actually did do it.
The reasoning? Avoiding Nuclear War.
@@randinatorgames1415 yeah basically
I think LBJ said later on that Kennedy was one of the only people in Dallas that day who *didn't* show up to see it happen, boy had everyone lining up to get a piece
The adolpho meme caught me by surprise
I am 100th like hehehe
You mean Adolfo? 🤓
I am 200th like hehehe
@@inestabilidadbro got “𓃞”💀
@@inestabilidadno. Astolfo
It's more like
*Kennedy dies*
USA: was this you?
USSR: crap, was it?
I laughed way to hard at that 😂 I can picture Ivan and Igor looking around like fuuuuuuuuuuuu.....
It was Mossad who killed him. He knew too much
No was it the MOB duh ..
"Vasya, ebat, open the goddamn file"
"Which goddamn one Volodymir the KGB Border Guards sent us so many damn files!! Them alone!!"
USSR : I SWEAR AMERICA I DID NOTHING
Americans after losing any conflict: "I didn't lose, I merely failed to win!"
does it suck that your country could have been more like south korea instead of being a poor hellhole all because a couple communist destroyed your country?
@@oluwaseyijohnson3162learn history, Vietnam was fucked way before the US got there, all you did was make it worse, like in most countries you invade or destroy.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill.
There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it.
You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like:
-Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit
-Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder)
I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts.
The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
i mean yeah, we kinda just like pull out and accidentally let the enemy take over whatever we were defending in our absence, lmao.
Wh more like britan.
Wait? Bro survived all 4 years of ww1??? That’s some skill right there
Both a blessing and a curse though. Being stuck there for 4 years will took a toll to your sanity
tbh whoever fought the entire war of ww1 especially on the western front have the legal right to become insane after the fuckery that happend there
@@pauloazuela8488
a guy from Canada did that, and killed over 350 men over the war as well as stealing a bunch of medals from other people in the enemy trenches
@@pauloazuela8488Not even that. All chemical weapon had long lasting consequences that were almost not understood at that time. Basicaly creating gulf war syndrome on much much larger scale.
@@Ocoro_Francis pegahmagabow he was also a Native American and the most decorated soldier in Canadian history
I was visiting my grandpa in Argentina and was looking through his basement when i found a cool old helmet with lighting bolts on the side, I went up to my grandpa and asked if he was an electrician he said no he worked with gas. 🥁
@gamer_gamee he is failed artist
Fact: Hitler banned his troops from using mustard gas
Quiccck reminder from your local history buff. We didn't lose Vietnam. We withdrew because the war was pointless. Nixon was fed bogus Intel that the Russians were helping a Vietnamese terrorist group called the vietkong in trade for a place to put an ICBM launch site and storage facility in there country. (Russia is like Texas, when they do something. It's HUGE! It was practically going to be the whole country!)
As it turns out, the Russians knew nothing about this plan because they didn't make it. It was a fake to get America's help to squash the terrorist group from the Vietnam government.
We didn't lose, we also didn't WIN. Bit we learned a valuable lesson about taking a secret agents word seriously, lol. *cough* The CIA is a bullshit organization that has gotten us involved in many wars of imperial intrigue *cough*
@gamer_gamee and he us from Austria and germany united :|
Wait until you find a uniform with SS written on it
Hold on, I met an electrician named Aldofo and even shook hands with him.
He seemed like a nice guy.
Edit: I just saw him again today, my Dad even laughed with him.
He seems like a good guy.
Edit: He did have a moustache, but he appeared to have shaved before today.
Wait till he raises hand
Don't criticize his art.
He does seem to have a dislike for arizonans, but who can blame him?
Eh, I don't get the problem, but if he was gas maintenance...
@@GTXBOY1650😅
And then China takes a stab at Vietnam after Americans left
And their knife breaks.
@@lautheimpaler4686wait really?
@@froggart5295yep china lost badly
Never mess with vietnam
@@fiorino4554 oh thx for telling me that I didn't know genuinely
@@froggart5295 their military failed miserably against a militia because the Vietnam military is still in Cambodia when china invade Vietnam
("Their" is china)
Joke from one of my former pupil : "In 1914, soldiers thought they would come back for Christmas. They did. But for Christmas 1918." The class laugh so they knew their lesson Well.
@tacidian7573 yes, we often find skeletons and shells in the fields of the north. Some villages and small towns still have their arsenals and stocks full of ammo and bombs which were never used (or the army throw it in a quarry or lake in order to "save" it from the Germans, resulting in the area being ultra toxic and polluted).
Well… the ones that survived did.
@@florianpierredumont4775Bloody hell. It happens very infrequently, but some explosives (un)used in the Nigeria-Biafra war which ended in 1970 are still found today. War is bad.
Even of you didn't know the context it is easy to understand
I'll take 500 for "things that never happened"
“Grandpa Adalfo, what did you do during the war?”
“Mein grandson, I have been Argentinian this entire time, probably”
I just realized...i had a great grandfather called Jorge who came from Germany and he named his son (my grandad) Adolfo...😐
@@AgustinHaacker1026did your grandpa also fail art school? Just asking.
@@TheAdministratorSCPF nope... I think he didn't go to school...
@@AgustinHaacker1026 ok
"Just wrote a book about my struggles"
Losing a war to farmers still itches americans LMAO
@UkraineUASlava it's almost like mass bombing cities and the innocent leads to higher casualty. China and the USSR never wanted Vietnam to win the war, just supply them enough to put countries in never ending debts and favors. Almost like some countries that are at war today, don't let this ignorance you have becomes your very own mistake.
@UkraineUASlava china literally invaded vietnam 4 years after they’ve won the war against the us and south vietnam. Nobody said vietnam wasn’t supplied, but the tanks and jets are used to fight the war for reunification, not to demolish the opposition by bombing civilians and forest, or releasing agent orange and chemical to rural area.
@UkraineUASlava you do realise that the war is 20 years long right? those amount means nothing compared to the weapons the US bought in. You also conveniently hide the timing of China's intervention. They only sent in 300k troops from 1965 to 1968. That is the total number of people they sent in, the most was only 170k. The intention was to keep Hanoi from falling, not for Vietnam to win the war. As soon as Vietnam was gaining advantage in 1970, China pulled back all of their aid and stop the supply line. They wanted to keep the war to go as long as possible, then when Vietnam was the weakest, they strike themselves.
Also what crime did they do in Cambodia or Laos? Do you actually read history or just read the headline? They were freeing Laos from Indochina/French, freeing Cambodia from Pol Pot who was murdering their own people and attacking Vietnam's border. These days, Laos is a close ally to Vietnam, while Cambodia is a puppet government of the Chinese.
Both Laos and Vietnam are still severely impacted by the US and France until today. You can still find active minefields in and disfigured people thanks to agent orance in both countries.
Yeah that meme is pure "America is #1!"-grade cope.
@UkraineUASlavalol trust me bro source
Me: **Skips video**
Video: Switzerland...
Me: **Goes back**
😂😅yep came back for Switzerland I like seeing them in memes
As a Swiss woman, I'm always expecting the jokes and memes about neutrality or banks - and I'm never disappointed 🇨🇭
Kruschev's response to Kennedy's assassination was great. "Who benefits?"
Short answer: The C.I.A.
Why?
@@RobbieNguyenThat's the fatal flaws I've always saw with those specific conspiracy theorists.
The CIA got all its power from presidential support and homeland polarity, and Kennedy's death effectively sainted him depolarizing the conservative heavy nation and removing Kennedy's support of the cold war
The CIA after finding out they somehow got away with the most obvious and almost botched assassination of all time
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq at that point the cia had more power than the president and they wanted to keep it that way. do some research on what jfk was convinced he knew about the 3 letter agencies, hell listen to rfk jr talk about it.
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vqit's not a theory
Americans: _lose a war_
Americans coping: You didn’t beat us! We gave up! It’s totally different!
The thing is the US doesn’t lose militarily they lose politically because politicians don’t know how to do their jobs anymore.
@@knightblade0188 if you do some research you will find out that the USA army actually lost battles and the thing that most americans continuously parrot "we won every battle" is pure bullshit.
@@knightblade0188They lost politically because their people had no interest in fighting the war in the end, not because the politicians fumbled the war.
Russia: Wins a battle, loses its entire empire
Also Russia: We won the cold war
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq Russians never said that!
The Vietnam one is pure uranium-grade American COPE lmao.
No, we left 😂
Cope but it's historically accurate lol
@@wolfe6744yeah, because you couldnt keep It. Long live communism and lets Hope the US Will become Red too! Freeing you from being capitalist slaves
2 million vietcong died vs 50k US soldiers
@@MuzikaAJK and yet we still lost the war.
USA: Why do you keep fighting💀? For WHAT?!!
VN: Why do you keep fighting ☠? For wHAt???
honestly it the idea the US and Vietnam just confusedly fighting for 20 years only to get confused and forget is pretty fucking hilarious and also typical.
Oh wait its because of the french
@valcan321 the Vietnamese knew what they were fighting for, they were just protecting their land and themselves. The Americans were the ones who had no clue why they were there in the first place
@@odd-eyes6363That is a common misconception as the Vietnamese were mostly fighting other Vietnamese that didn't want to be under communist rule. You can trace most of the Vietnamese diaspora, especially to the U.S. which houses the largest population of Vietnamese immigrants, on that one war. The ones that fled even have a specific term to name that day, Black April.
@@Ranchor489 There are no excuses for seperating the whole country. The country nearly had a unification in a earlier year, but Non-Communism messed it up, which costed other 21 years to finally united the country. Opportunities had existed, but one just rejected it.
@@caominhpham7135 That does not matter if there is dissent. No excuses surely because they just outright waged yet another revolutionary war and killed the opposition. That's when America had to physically intervene with Operation Passage to Freedom. The ARVN just didn't sprout out of thin fucking air.
USA soldier in Viet Nam forest: ok we are safe now
Viet Nam bushes: are you sure about that ?
*Fucking napalm and chopper runs*
US Soldier: …yes
@theguybehindyou4762 10 times more vietnamise jump from the forest only to die right away.
"Damn, how many more are there?"
mean green unseen
@@theguybehindyou4762and who’s the loser that retreat huh?
@@alro8613 Actually, that would be the communists who agreed to the treaty of paris, effectively giving up the fight- and the 94th congress elected a year later who voted to withdraw both troops and material aid to South Vietnam, leaving it vulnerable and pissing away everything their own troops fought for.
AfterJFK got shot
KGB: It wasn't me! Please trust me, I beg you! It wasn't me!
CIA: I know
reminds me of a good old joke about time traveler who goes to 1963 and asks a person is it before or after jfk was shot and the man replies: " 2 days before"
the democrat party and their lap dogs shot and killed JFK in order to make their puppet LBJ president who passed the welfare act returning blacks back to the plantation which in the 1960's was democrat control government.
KGB: PLS I SWEAR YO GOD
@@thylacine6922Damn
Why should KGB beg to USA? KGB and USSR literally was stronger than USA during jfk era
I think his history teacher got heart attack before teach.
Americans coping so hard on the Vietnam meme
The U.S. withdrew from the Vietnam war after the Paris peace accords which ended the war. The treaty was broken and the war started again but the U.S. did not return because the war was extremely unpopular in the U.S. During the war the US wasn’t not allowed to enter North Vietnam so they stayed in the south helping the south against the Vietcong. In the end only 50k US troops were killed compared 2 million Vietcong.
It’s not a cope If it’s historically accurate.
@@Infiltrator_I seriously don't understand how everyone forgets about the Paris Peace Accords and the effect they had.
@@Infiltrator_ Listen, you've already been answered 10 times before, why do you keep copying this nonsense, clown?
americans? you meant US citizens
@@IM4HF1R1N6M4HL4Z0R That’s generally what the label “American” refers to, yes.
USSR actually liked Kenedy and they wanted to team up on space program with him but after he was killed they refused to work together
They also liked Reagan. I never was able to understand why they liked the people who were the lost willing to kick their butts
Space was an area which both sides didn't want to weaponise so soon. Exploring space without the help of high performance Computers like today must have been a real pain, no wonder failure rates were high back then.
Moreover, if both sides were willing to work together in space, chances are it'd improve relations back on the ground too (nuclear war was a very real fear in the 60's and 70's)
the US killed the Twin towers
The US and the USSR actually did collaborate, it's called the Apollo soyuze mission, go look it up its interesting
they didnt like him. he was a threat to their sovereignty why would they like him. the soviets were just very diplomatically courteous, but they were under no illusion of the US gov being likable or cooperable. they simply had hopes they were to try and form some good will.
My grangrand grandpa was serving in Wehrmacht and I'm not even kidding. 😅
That's cool
thats normal in germany and austria
@@deleted2446 I'm from Poland and so was he
@@SrogaPoziomka But if he was polish how was it possible? From which region from poland was he?
@@deleted2446sometime by the end of the war Germany was desperate for man power and started conscripting soldiers from occupied territory
Vietnam is the best example of why keeping morale high is so important.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill.
There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it.
You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like:
-Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit
-Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder)
I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts.
The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
It’s a lesson in using strategies that actually work. The US got the dumb idea that war is about killing as many of the enemy as possible without doing things like breaking their ability to fight, destroying supplies, capturing territory etc. because each battle the US would absolutely mop the floor with the NVA and Viet Cong in terms of casualties but then the US forces would immediately leave and the next group of NVA and viet cong fighters would come in and assume the post almost as if nothing happened
@@ryancialone3045 yea, as long as the Vietnamese had one person left, willing to fight for the cause, US looses...
Its less about troop morale, more about having a sound strategy for success. Imma guess they thought it'd be like Korea, kill a massive bunch and negotiate a deal, but there they could negotiate with/pressure China not North Korea itself....
@@ryancialone3045actually americans weren’t mopping the floor with the Vietcong, thats just propaganda, the true is that the casualties in north vietnam and usa were almost the same
@@PanzerkampfwagenVITigerIAusfE *the truth. learn grammar or keep quiet. what you said is factually untrue and is not corroborated by any of the combatants' statistics on either side.
The US: don't tread on me
The Vietnamese rice farmer slowly loading his Chinese made Kalashnikov :☠️
Grandfather was a nice painter 😀
Grandpa gave fire speeches
My grandpa fought in Vietnam, he said once he put an entire mag into a NVA soldier and it never stopped him, then a mg gunner cut him in half and basically slowed him down enough to die from bleeding out before getting to them, but he never stopped charging while being lit up. Shit was crazy over there
As a Vietnamese, our desire for independence and freedom easily dominated any colonizers.
That or it was drugs. It had a similar effect on Germans in WWII.
And you apparently preferred the mass graves and killing fields brought by Russian backed colonizers from up north.
Independence my butt.
@@koushuuironically it also applies to the so called "we bring freedom" invaders
@@koushuu What colonizers?? What do you think this war was for?
@@ValidTfor fking Americans to stop communism spread in SEA, which will never happen. USSR once want to put a mil base in Vietnam and we refused, we are the communist but we serve no country
remember, America doesn't lose wars, it loses interest
never win a war either
@@MarinoCallidoraen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
@@MarinoCallidora Civil War, Revolutionary War, Barbary War, Spanish American War, WW1, WW2.....
@@ShadowWolfRising Saying America won WW1 and WW2 is like saying the fat kid who only starts running the 1000 meter race 10 meters from the finish line at the very end of the race won it because he crossed first when all other members of the race ran the whole 1000 meters and he only ran 10.
@futuricoomMy nigga, the Confederacy seceded from the union because they were opposed to the general trend of American ideologies at the time. It was literally and actually, ideologically and logistically, a completely separate entity to the Union from whence it came. They had their own damn money, flag and anthem. The only reason people don’t think of it like that is because they lost. It’s like trying to argue that North and South Korea are the same country because they both came from a common ancestor.
Veitman was a whole ass "fuck it, random bullshit go!" The higher ups had no real strategy and they never advanced on a single goal. It was just fight after fight.
Was a classic case of general's fighting the last war...Vietnamese used 100% Sun Tzu strategy , he may have been on to something 🤔
The highter ups in the military were tied up by the highter ups in the politic sphere, wich were to scare of a war with China, that at that moment had nukes.
@@chrismiller5875 No, not in the slightest. Generals knew what kind of war they were in, but were tied up in what the could do about it by the highter ups in the goverment, that were too afraid of a war with China (That by that point had nukes) similarly to Korea.
And no, the North Vietnam soldiers did not outsmart the EEUU ones... they were just more resilient. Casualties wise, even witouth counting civilian ones, South Vietnam and american forces were moping the floor with the North Vietnam army, and despise how popular they are nowadays, the Vietcong had very little impact compared to the North Vietnam regular army.
The honor code also kept the VC switching sides, to avenge family members. What a terrible confluence.
@truetranny What a way to say you don´t even know what a fucking nazi is dude.
Me, a Swiss citizen: I have no idea what Gold you are all talking about.
Smiles 😁 in 34 karat
Americans: Invading Afghanistan in the name of eliminating terrorist.
Americans in the end of war, making negotiation with Taliban that don't kill us while our soldiers leave Afghanistan.
Not to be a boomer but the negotiation was made to prevent bloodshed and allow evacuation of citizens
The Taliban never really posed a big threat to the US military itself. They did however, pose a massive threat to the weak and corrupt government we left behind to "defend" Afghanistan.
@@dangerdrone1605 threat or not. It the surprise to the world that so called world power have to make negotiation with bunch of cave man which are fighting with ancient weapons in order for their soldier to leave safely.
@@dangerdrone1605nah mate you lost
@@dangerdrone1605 considering your main goal after the initial invasion was to secure a pro-westwen government and said government collapsed almost instantly while you guys were trying to leave its clear that you guys failed at completing your objective. At least the communist government left behind by the soviets managed to hold out for a year or so before finally falling.
The SSR actually did an investigation about the assassination themselves cuz even they didn't know if it was them or not.
Come on lil bro, every one knows it was USAs government itself
Most soldiers in WW1: GET ME OUT OF HERE!
One mad lad from Belgium: *I DIDN'T HEAR NO FUCKING BELL!*
Son of Belgium and Ireland with war in his blood
Leading the charge into hostile barrage
By design, he was made for the frontline
WW2: MadJack Churchill the craziest motherducker you’ll ever learn about. Because when he sought death, death ran the duck away.
@@Ak_jet_owner
Studied law with a thirst for war
Fought in Africa, wanted more
Vietnam was like
"I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL"
It was more of a keep hiding eventually they’ll go away
@@knightblade0188 If it was more of a "keep hiding", it wouldn't have been a costly war. It was guerilla warfare, period.
@@Specoups But most of a guerrilla campaign revolves around hiding and clandestine acts, lol.
The US got their asses kicked. Donnt forget that little tidbit
@@MikeHunt-yl1so no they actually didn’t.
Adolfo Be Looking Like Trump Though
Why capitals bro
Why all first letters capital bro
@@mihirkarwani8891understandable have a good day
Uhhhh@@froggart5295
WHAT IF DONALD TRUMP IS HITLER AFTER YEARS OF HIDING?
i bet Adolfo had a stash of Mein kampf book under his bed
Being a fan of his own work must be exhausting
he had the pack of Anna Frank
Under his Mien Kampforter...?
The Vietnam war meme is about the stupidest thing I've seen. It was actually the US who was playing the sounds of the dead in the jungle to frighten the Vietcong.
They didn't even fucking scared,
@@lamtankhai1393what you said
@@bobek735 I'm proud to be a Viet 🤝
You say that like two armies can't use the same tactics. "Yes, our enemy is using guns so clearly me mustn't use guns."
@@phoenyxtaylor5750 I say that because the Vietcong didn't use that tactic, it was the US military that used it.
my grandpa is Austrian and his name is Adolfo hidler 💀💀💀🇦🇹
Suspicion 10000
Hello grandson. How are you?
Adolf-K-1945 your username reminds me of someone 🤨🤨
@@TH-camhastoomanyads nothing suspicious about my username 🙂
Adolfby Hidein
If you can't beat Americans, you have to make them feel tired.
USA culture is weak in this regard; it cannot stomach war for ten years, or a hundred years, or a thousand years.
Vietnam on the other hand...
Depends on the context of the war. Its different when the conflict can in no way spread to your home but if there ever was an invasion of the American homeland I have no doubt that you would see a decades long insurgency.@@JustinAndrews74
@@JustinAndrews74 It's different when you are fighting on your own land. If the US was ever invaded, americans wouldn't stop fighting until the invaders were pushed out either - even if it did take a thousand years.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill.
There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it.
You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like:
-Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit
-Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder)
I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts.
The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
@@JustinAndrews74Americans can stomach long wars, its just after a few years we do a morality check on ourselves, start to feel bad and decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze afterall, especially when wars go into new election cycles or if new leadership is elected.
Before world War 1&2 America tried to remain isolationist but eventually felt badly for not helping as much as we could have in ww1, then with ww2 and the axis powers and nazis America collectively decided fuck it then if you can't behave yourselves and started getting in everyone's business since the advent of the atomic bombs placed what many felt was a sort of national responsibility for global stability. The CIA in particular took to their task far too overzealously and eventually you get the road to hell paved with good intentions and the bodies of innocents we're at at current.
I pray America never has to be serious about a war again
but JFK was like the best USA president possible for USSR
Definitely the best president for Castro. >_>
We wouldn’t kill him regardless. USSR and US may had been enemies but the respect was always there.
@@georgeousthegorgeousTrue. Even if he was an asshole kgb would not dare to even put a finger on him, as it is very very dangerous move. That can even result in nuclear war, which no one wanted.
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 and Kennedy and Khrushchev have Great Relations with each other
@@georgeousthegorgeousfascist US respecting the fascist Nazi USSR, as fascists ALWAYS do, yet now the US is not as fascist anymore but Nazi ruSSia is almost as fascist as they were when they started ww2
The first one though 💀
You learning something in history class is the best joke.
That 'grandpa Adolfo' is the strongest start I've witnessed haha. Great reel.
Yes
Ww1 soldier: get me out of this nightmare
Damn, bro aint even ready for the sequel 💀
Bro is not going home, bro is kicked back to home
Slightly more accurate would be the NVA saying "yes"
Then the US left.
Then the NVA attacked again.
And the skull-faces were just masks
And china with a troll face and France seething
@@Journey_to_who_knows yeah, then China invaded Vietnam a few ywars later in 1979......China got beat so badly the Chinese retreated before 1980. China could not even last 1 YEAR fighting in Vietnam despite having more advantages such as, being on the border so there is easy acces to supplies ans transporting equipment (the USA has to move tanks across the pacific ocean, that made it harder to fight there), also China had a way bigger population and could muster a much much larger army than the USA, ans China was more acclimated to the climate they would be fighting in and China knew their enemy better.
Despite all those advantages China has fighting in Vietnam compared to the USA, China still retreated before 1980 ans could'nt last 1 year.
Chinas invasion of Vietnam in 1979 was a disaster. It made Americas vietnam war look like a impressive win in comparison.
@@anthonywinebarger Nah... The Viet Cong were almost wiped out, and the NVA lost a MASSIVE percentage of it's military.
@@nicklibby3784 To be fair, that's more a testimate to how badly prepared China was for a fight. Their logistics were so badly handled that they lost almost as many men to disease and malnourishment than combat.
Why is that Marine holding an AK-47? Fix that shit up boy.
I heard quite a few GIs used AK-47s due to their reliability in rough conditions.
How Americas think how they lost war:
I mean technically it’s both. If we had stayed and continued we would have won but at that point the casualties wouldn’t justify the endeavor so decided to give up.
@@jacksonglass3447😂 Yeah, another 10 years or what? Just like you almost won Afghanistan
@@TK-do7ei I didn’t say we won. I said we could have won. I’m not an idiot. The United States has the power to crush any country in the world if we throw our full weight into it. We don’t because it will never justify the cost.
I mean yea, its pretty much what happens. US lost that one because Vietnam didn't fucking care how many they killed (rightfully so).
As long as one Vietnamese guy was alive farming rice and/or hiding in a hole somewhere, the US looses...
The U.S. withdrew from the Vietnam war after the Paris peace accords which ended the war. The treaty was broken and the war started again but the U.S. did not return because the war was extremely unpopular in the U.S. During the war the US wasn’t not allowed to enter North Vietnam so they stayed in the south helping the south against the Vietcong. In the end only 50k US troops were killed compared 2 million Vietcong.
It’s not a cope If it’s historically accurate.
Vietnam won US lost
Afghanistan won Soviet lost
Also us lose
If there had been one surviving North Vietnamese or Viet Cong soldier left alive when the last American troops left, he would rightfully have declared victory. From 1965 to 1970, America's goal changed from fighting Communism to finding a non-humiliating way of being able to withdraw from Vietnam. The VC and NVA never changed their goal of kicking foreign influence, be it French, American,or Chinese, out of their country. We misunderstood those people.
That's what Democrats do...
Ame rika don’t understand anyone. They have all sorts of theories but they don’t work for a reason. They don’t respect d natives, whom r d only ones that can show ‘em d truth. And not d ones that’ll betray their own to side with a foreign power. Those r d dislo yal trash. If they betrayed their own, how can they b trus ted??
That last one slaps hard
at the beginning of WW1, people hoped to be back by Christmas, in 1918 they hoped the suffering would end and afterwards the people in it said that it was pretty fun
:0
Very few of those soldiers even lived to the next Christmas with the invention and use of mustard gas and other weapons.
Don't inflate facts. There was a single soldier who was a total crazyhead who said "All in all it was pretty fun". One single person. Everyone else hated it. Or was dead. Actually most people were dead, WW1 was one of the most bloody wars in history.
1918 : _Instead of adventure, we found fear. And in war the only true equalizer is death._
2042 : *Well well well, that was fun!* 😅
@@UsaKen_PMCArguably it gonna be even sooner
LOL at the Vietnam one. Cope, Americans 😂
your comment is proof you know nothing about history
@@JoeMonhoe although the usa could have won the war in a few months, they failed to steamroll the entire north vietnam after decades of fighting. The USA chose to wage a limited war, and they failed to realise that they must go all in and give it all they've got. Had the USA launched a total war, north vietnam would have been steamrolled in months. Therefore, USA lost the war even though it could have won.
@@JoeMonhoe saying usa won the war is like saying 1nd1@ns have toilets and are not skammers
@@Pooscentedcowdungindian I am aware, dude just failed to realize the meme
It’s cops, but atleast it’s historically accurate. Also, based on your attitude, I suspect you are some salty revolutionary war British child.
Vietnam lost every major engagement of the war
The Vietnam war was not a conventional war, it was a war of "who is able to handle and recover" which the Vietnam Cong and NVA would win
cap
@diegode415 The US withdraws from the Vietnam war due to political tensions. Not because they felt like the war was being increasingly unwinnable , The casualties were 50,000 to 2 million. It's not even close. There's no debating this .
@@SmokestackOG the U.S led coalition and government of south Vietnam had 800,000 dead, 1 million injured, and another 1 million captured by the Viet Cong, not to mention they weren't even scratching the Viet Cong as they just kept coming back and then Laos had a communist insurgency which the U.S also got involved in and the U.S also had to get involved in Cambodia and back up the Khmer Rouge. By the way, a highly sophisticated army like the U.S can't be suffering 50,000 dead and also can't be showing their allies dead and wounded soldiers for their efforts in helping their asses in a war that isn't going as planned
@diegode415 again 50, 000 to 2 million , all major engagements of the war were won ,and that was within being logistically and military supplied by russia and china simultaneously , But at the end of the day it was the US people who wanted to come home. Look at Russia's war today. They have suffered 300, 000 casualties, and that's more than triple the numbers of our that we lost in the vietnam war , And they are second to us in military power.
The meme is accurate. America lost in Vietnam but it definitely did not go down how people generally depict it as.
the way people portrayed "vietnam" would be more realistic for afghanistan, no matter how hard the US copes that is literally how they felt in afghanistan, cave/road ambushes, ineffectiveness of air assets against caves, gorilla attacks, attacking logistics, afghanistan was so much harder than Iraq for NATO/ISAF
@@callmeari6254the US won a majority of the battles but each battle was a aimless mess that achieved no tangible goals other than body count. No territory captured, no industry destroyed. You can’t win a war through body count alone. There’s no way to kill that many people especially when you are letting them come to you and not invading their territory
@@ryancialone3045 yea they won in every region thanks to isaf cooperation just to lose the region right away any way, I don't recall seeing the US forces being successful in any region which was far away from kabul, they lost the most ridiculous battles like the battle for wanat which the opposition only had 500 troops, with total air superiority in the region they still lost.
they somehow even lost a helicopter with 30 units onboard to an enemy that doesn't even have air defenses.
edit: lastly technically the forces didn't come with much of a big size unlike how you mentioned, the taliban at most of its power only had about 80,000 fighters 11 times smaller than the ukrainian army today.
@@callmeari6254 I’m talking about Vietnam. I literally do not care about Afghanistan even though the same thing went wrong there
@@ryancialone3045 well not really, while the main problem with vietnam was the lack of moral the problem in afghanistan was the unbearable expenses, quite not even related topics, in fact moral was not even a concern as the isaf was made up of different groups due to same reason troop replacement could be conducted very easily.
That's an even worse way to lose in Vietnam
When you crush the enemy but they still don't give up and you start to feel bad so you just go home
@@greg77389 "when you crush the enemy" them not giving up means you didn't crush them and they're still standing
@@fluffyseal8782
They were definitely crushed. Compare the casualties.
@@greg77389 north viet vs usa and south viet and you still can't win the war,casualties dont mean jack shit when you can't close the game
@@fluffyseal8782
You seem to struggle with the concept of "can't" vs "won't." There was very little support for the war in the first place and very little to gain by winning it. That's why the US backed out. If the US had enough incentive to close the game, they would have. No question.
"how the US lost Vietnam" is the biggest cope I've ever seen lmao.
And to see the dumbest mfs in the comments think it’s not
Us casualties: 80k
Vietnam casualties: 1.2million
@@Russia_russi I guess that means Hitler won WW2 then. After all German casualties were far lower than allied casualties both civilian and otherwise.
The US barely killed any soldiers and mostly targeted civilians so the 1.3 million number is a little misleading to say the least
@@zeffy._440 It never said they won, only said they weren't intact.
@@zeffy._440How do you know if they were civilians or not were you on the war to know how many they exactly killed
I’m from Switzerland and I confirm 👍
I live in Switzerland, the same thing are they making with the residents.
This reminds me of a recent conversation with a Swiss woman who was talking about the difficulties of acquiring Swiss citizenship. She said "Switzerland wants rich clients"; she referred to Switzerland's citizens as clients of the state. Something about that struck me as very true
The us lost the war because they sent literally teens with minimal training to a jungle that they’d never heard of
didnt help that a lot of them were criminals trying to dodge jail. not exactly sending their best and hardly motivating to the ones who signed up on their own lol.
@@conan2096that’s not it. The issue was having your whole war strategy based solely on having a high K/D ratio and not doing practical things like destroying infrastructure and capturing territory. No one has ever won a war through K/D ratio alone
i get that, but he was talking about the troops morale...the GIs didnt really have good motivation to be there. guerilla war sucks enough as it is, but when your team is filled with literal criminals trying to dodge jail and any local might pull out a gun, it takes the fun out of war lol. most patrols literally just went out of vision and sat in the jungle close to their bases till it was time to go back.@@ryancialone3045
@@ryancialone3045exactly lol. Germans K/D was near perfection until Stalingrad and they still lost
Who else were they going to send? The other traumatized teens who just got back from another war?
FINALLY someone mentioned the fact that Switzerland stored gold.
Fun fact: they didn’t return it to Germany and gave a half of it to USA. That’s business! 😎
The Vietnam War really was,
North Vietnam: "I didn't hear that no bell-"
"Bro you just lost 80 liters of blood how are you even alive?"
"Beign alive"
Vietnam war in a nutshell
@@HOI4notsoproplayer it was more like North and South Vietnam in boxing ring, they are fighting amongst each other, and then USA jumps in from the crowd and hits North Vietnam with a brick, and before it gets up, it repeatedly kicks him on the ground, and when North Vietnam gets up, he just slaps USA, and USA begins crying and runs out of the ring.
United States thinks it single handedly won BOTH world wars!!!🤣😂
It's not deniable that they helped in both wars, but I've never seen anyone say they single handedly won it
Ain’t ever heard that. Yet, the U.S. sure helped shorten WW1 and helped turn the tide in WW2.
it basicly did considering that the british needed us and russia was a shithole who couldnt do anything right
Nobody says that
Meanwhile soviet union and it's simps:
I love how people think the US got its ass kicked in vietnam when it was hippies who protested and forced congress to pull our troops out instead.
The goddamn hippies. They only brought misery to our country
Hippies, known for being able to force congress to do things lol. Presence in vietnam was a huge issue at the time and people were rioting across the country to leave vietnam because we kept sending americans to their deaths. When you leave your ally and let them fall to the enemies you protected them from, you got your ass kicked. If you leave the ring because you're tired, you still lose.
The whole lost war narrative is just leftist revisionism to strengthen criticism of US foreign policy. The US defended South Vietnam and wrecked the NVA throughout the war, eventually forcing a peace treaty between the two sides. South Vietnam fell after a peace treaty that was signed was promptly reneged on.
Don't see how the US in any way is the loser here.
They quit because they knew they had no chance of winning
when american try to learn you history
I know it’s a meme and probably a joke, but I don’t get how Adolf could have escaped. Stalin hated him beyond understanding and so did his soldiers. He wanted to kill everyone around him when hitler killed himself because he wanted him to be hung near Moscow. No one would help him, not the soviets , not Stalin, not anyone. I keep hearing about how some people actually believe it and it angers me.
Well that's something
US got absolutely crushed in Nam
Nope
50k americans means getting crushed??? while the vietcong had 2M deaths?
1.1 million Vietcong soldiers killed vs only 50,000 US... How is that "crushed"?
@@importantvideos4529 now you are speaking fax
Honestly Vietnam is even more badass the fact that they kept fighting
That was North Vietnam
In Vietnam war, 1965 - 1970: American's allies : South Vietnam 1.1 milions soldiers, South Korea : 250 thousands soldiers, New Zealand + Philippines + Thai + Australia : > 150 thousands soldiers.
400 thousands South Vietnam soldiers were died. South Korea + Philippines + Thai + New Zealand + Australia : > 40 thousands...
Why are you forget them ?
It call cope , American fanboy can't resist going around waring on people that doesn't have anything to do with them. They lost a conflict fair and square but refused to believe superior USA can lose anything . I think it funny how they win their independence from another country from across the sea but when vietnamese do it , coper say " it not America soil so it doesn't count"
Pure US military cope
I mean the Americans never really invaded the North
the vietnam one was so accurate lol
You lost
2 million viet cong died compared to only 50 thousand americans lmao@@solid_rooster4587
Cope
With the chemical warfare in WWI, doctors had to make fake faces for the soldiers because their faces melted off in battle.
How did their faces melt off in battle?
@@uhtred7860it’s an exaggeration but basically a bunch of soldiers were covered in scars and chemical burns from gas
@@MrBritishEnglishMan Its complete BS, the main types of gas used were Chlorine, Phosgene, and mustard, the first two were Lung injurants, and mustard was a vesicant (causes blisters) none of them "melted faces off".
@@uhtred7860 Well the reason why chemical warfare is a warcrime is because of the use in WW1 when people literally got boiled alive from the inside with then chemicals reacting to their organs.
Some just burned your lungs so you could not breathe at all coughing up your own lung until you died.
Chemical warfare is insane.
Adolfo is not sure if your teacher teaches u well
Imagine that the US deemed you as untrustworthy so hard that when their president died, you need to check if one of the officers slipped or not
It wasn’t that the US didn’t trust the USSR it was more that the USSR didn’t trust the USSR. They had spies everywhere and were worried one of them acted on their own.
The Thumbnail is almost the meaning of "i didn't lose,I merely failed to win"
Always gives me joy to see my WW1 Wojacks I made being used! Preciate it :)
The first one was actually funny😂 especially the face donald makes😂😂😂
I do love the Vietnam meme. The US had a crazy kill per casualty ratio even among _just_ combatants. It was something like 12 Vietcong and 8 civilians per American casualty. Most of those casualties recovered as well because, you know, western medicine. Meanwhile, the Vietcong lost most of their casualties as fatalities because it’s hard to have a sterile, industrialized medical environment when you’ve been bombed back to the Stone Age.
What people don't know about the kill counts from vietnam war, the US army inflated the kill counts due to a new tactic they implement to reward the soldiers depending on how many enemies he manages to kill.
There's many factors that made the kill counts inflate so much. In a guerilla warfare it's really hard to tell who you manage to kill, soldiers also reported higher kill counts on purpose in order to get a better promotion, there were many instances of US soldiers genociding village and counted it as kill counts, the officers of the US in each company reported a higher kill count as well for a better image of their company, then the higher ups as well as US media also inflated even more the kill count as a propaganda and to show progress of the results of their sons being sent into a meat grinder. Majority of modern US people don't know how to do research properly, it's like looking at a scientific study without looking into the details like wether it's conducted by a trust worthy source or not. But it's even harder when your ego is at risk, so I kinda get it.
You can check some testimony on youtube that really speaks of vietnam war like:
-Vietnam War Body Count Was Just Bullshit
-Vietnam war #3(Rape&Murder)
I believe you can get a fuller picture of what really happened. Because some movies of the vietnam war do portray the reality, but they do not want to show the public the really messed up parts.
The thing they say about major battle is kind of dumb because you manage to capture a position, but you still lose it anyway right after while the enemy managed to hold it forever till you captured for few seconds and lose it right after....
It's funny because you do support the fact vietnam is having a hard time is due to US bombing back to stone age, and yet vietnam is doing a huge comeback after US stops crying by revoking it's sanctions on the country.
@@KFC431i’ve only heard of one village being destroyed and they certainly did not count those as combatants killed, in fact those soldiers were court martialed as they should be. The kill numbers might be inflated some but that’s the same with all wars and the ratio still favors america massively. The Tet offensive was the only time the vietcong gained any leverage and it was gained back by the americans by the end of the month. You can’t get your ass handed to you and then claim you won 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
@@randomkyle3Vietcong was a guerrilla full of rice farmers. Not a regular army. They're not able to push back an enemy like an army. They're objective is to survive and they were successfull. Not being able to compleatly end the guerrilla even with help was a huge embarrassment for the US and allies in the war but I guess theyre used to it now days 🤷♂️. The US failed their objective. Having great casualties does not mean you lost. Just ask the Soviet Union in WW2😉
@@KFC431 LIAR - The Vietcong and Vietnam released their death-tolls... Guess what? They line up quite nicely with the claims. So are you telling us the Vietcong and Vietnamese also inflated how many of their soldiers died or what?
That last one was depressing
Jkf dies
USA - it's u USSR
USSR - NO FK NO ~calls kgb head
Kgb - nope that wasn't us it was USA
USSR - WTF?
Vietnam War: Hey, let’s win every battle, then just walk away and let them recapture everything.
thats what happens when a populace loses the stomach for war.
@@bearsplitz96that was the strategy the whole time though. Once the viet cong and NVA realized the US wouldn’t actually go for strategic and practical goals like capturing territory and destroying industry and infrastructure all they had to do was outlast them which was easy considering the US waited for the communist forces to come to them.
I actually have a great grandfather Adolfo from Brazil.
How US lost war in Vietnam, also how US lost war in Afghanistan. I think we technically won in Iraq though right?
Both the US and Vietnam lost the war, no one won 'cause of the withdrawal but they both agreed to stop
The US retreated and that was that. It was a one-sided invasion so when the US stopped obviously the Vietnamese stopped too. It's hard to have a war without an opponent.
@@EskChan19 The Vietnam war carried on for two more years after the U.S forces had completely withdrawn. North Vietnam and South Vietnam continued to fight.
@@EskChan19 " It was a one-side invasion-"
We've always been at war with EastAsia, big brother protects you and there was no civil war in Vietnam.
@@EskChan19The US didn’t invade Vietnam. They came to defend South Vietnam and never attempted to invade North Vietnam because of China.
Sadly, we won the Vietnam war, promised South Vietnam funding to maintain their army, left, and then decided not to give them any money.
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lol you must have never heard of Richard Milhous Nixon's tapes
Vietnam won?Are you blind?
Vietnamese Americans always thought they win the war when in the reality Vietnam beat South Vietnam+USA
elementary school level of history knowledge.
The United "We didn't lose, we just failed to reach our objective" States of Copium 😂😂😂
they did reach their objective, they just pulled out too early
@@JoeMonhoe The objective was stop communism. Vietnam is still communist, goofball.
@zack2804 Vietnam is more socialist than communist, there’s literally a McDonald’s in HCM City.
@@brennanleadbetter9708 "Vietnam is more socialist than communist" is a sentence I never imagined being said.
Socialism is literally a type of Communism.
@zack2804 The two do have some similarities, but they do have some key differences.
In communism, all property is owned by the state, while in socialism, individuals can own property.
In communism, the state controls the major means of production, like factories and mines. In socialism, the state or government controls the means of production, but individuals can still own property.
In communism, the state is responsible for the economy, public order, foreign relations, and defense. In socialism, the state's role changes from political rule to scientific administration of production.
In communism, goods are distributed based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". In socialism, economic resources are allocated equally by a democratically-elected government.
I mean Vietnam was combination of the two
They didn't even disclose how many Americans got clapped back there, but it was an unwinnable war from the start. The US was out of its zone
@@kangaroosoup.
In the way things were set up, yes. They could not invade North Vietnam because China threatened to intervene. So, despite the bombardment, North Vietnam always had the initiative by virtue of that.
The Viet Cong were almost finished but the US stabbed the South in the back
@@kangaroosoup.offically america lost that war. But compare it to casualties and i can gautentee vieatnam came out worse.
@@jackevans7665 In war, is the end result not more important than statistics? Im an American and I still think that America straight up lost the Vietnam War
No one would say that they're glad they're part of the war but I have to say it was pretty funuy😂
Actually, back then they WERE. Teenagers were trying to fake being adults so they could get sent off. The war propaganda made the military sound like a fraternity so people did actually think it’d be “fun”.
Men in Europe happily enlisted for the war, assuming it would be a quick, bloodless fight
Boy were they wrong
They’d want the clout, suffragettes went around throwing white paint on objectors
Under the promise that it was "the war to end all wars", I can understand why some would call it a privilege to take part in
As an US Army veteran I can tell u first hand that Vietnam handed our asses to us. We lost fair and square.
NATO when switzerland will be invaded: 🛌
Americans copping because they lost a war against farmers twice 😂😂😂😂
Actually no more non Americans being uneducated
@@knightblade0188 not believing in your propaganda isnt being "uneducated"
@@solid_rooster4587 not propaganda in this case US was slaughtering North Vietnam up until they agreed to meet at the table in which a treaty was signed and the US left which was the plan. Afghanistan was a loss but nothing to be upset over as they just mostly hid till we left.
@@knightblade0188 that's an extremely dumb take, ww1 was ended with a treaty too, that doesn't mean that germany won lmao.
@@solid_rooster4587 no it’s not it’s just there’s different types of treaties and politics involved. Vietnams treaty was a draw where both south and Vietnam agreed to stop fighting and try and work things out while the treaty with Germany was more a conditional surrender in all but name as Germany really couldn’t fight anymore. And if you look both treaties really saw nothing achieved just delayed the conflict also the treaty wasn’t Germanys objective. Wars a really complicated thing where things that look similar are t all that similar.
President Trump: deports a real life fascist Nazi Holocaust guard
His Haters: *wait you weren’t supposed to do that*
While trump himself is supporting the Nazis, which is the Nazi ruSSians and his boyfriend the Nazi ruSSian tyrant vladolf putler
Exactly. The mind of a leftist eh?
Man the yanks really got their egos bruised in Vietnam
We wouldn't need to correct people if they knew history.
@@Totemparadox yeah and the history is the yanks lost to half of a third world country
@@safe6278 It's never that simple but please, prove your lack of education.
@@Totemparadox it's as simple as the Americans went into a war with no clear goals in mind, achieved literally nothing, raped and burnt a bunch of women and children and then made absolute fools out of themselves in front of the whole world
@@TotemparadoxVictory: an act of defeating an enemy or opponent in a battle, game, or other competition.
Vietnam's objective was invading south vietnam. Arvn's objective was defending it.
Now answer this:
Who won south vietnam?
Only I noticed US soldier holding an AK? 😂
America got wrecked by farmers, only their pride would like to think they just abandoned.
They were actual soldiers not farmers you idiot :/
Wrecked is a word i would use to describe the nva after losing 1 million men due to u.s. soldiers which by the way were defending SV not attacking North Vietnam for obvious reasons