@@UncleMerlin Arjuna Alter is nothing compared to any of the TYPEs. Giving Arcueid divinity WEAKENS her because Gods are beings so far below her existence. She can also negate all of AA's authority.
@@Vins_. idk, i know arjuna alter is too op but, archetypes are the strongest currsponding to the planet they represent, since shes earth and arjuna and the gods are from earth, its likely shes stronger
@@Vins_. He can't. Arcueid is the brain of the Earth. As long as the Earth still exists, she cannot be killed. Even Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception- which was known to be able to kill ANYTHING, couldn't killed Arcueid permanently. Not to mention Arcueid's Marble Phantasm could rewrote the Indian Lostbelt completely and nullified Arjuna Alter powers.
Lol this is so wrong, real Archetype earth is the will of earth itself, she have authority beyond the entire indian pantheon. Oh and dont forget earth/Gaia is the one who gave indian gods authority, and AE is his vessel.
To explain how Arjuna Alter would lose so horribly that he would get wiped in a millisecond: Arjuna in that specific Lostbelt comes from a dead end history that has been brought into the existence by an Alien God. It is effectively one of the many timelines in Fate/Grand Order, brought back into being and made manifest, one of the seven histories shoved over the death of human history. Arjuna in this lostbelt had gone mad, and with his belief that all “evil” shall be destroyed, he had absorbed all of the Indian Gods to amass strength and grow stronger than many divine beings, leaving Kama the remaining Indian God who was being watched over by the others. Kama, who clearly had no interest in solving the problem, fled from the Lostbelt under her own power and is known as Beast III/L, where she became a problem for Chaldea in her own right before becoming a servant. Arjuna Alter’s authority controls the entire lostbelt he is in, AND the Lostbelt’s texture. For seven days, the people of the lostbelt descend into madness and debauchery, and Arjuna Alter comes down and destroys the whole universe, ridding “imperfection”. By this, I mean crippled people, injured people, birth defects, anything that doesn’t fall under HIS line of perfection. That is what evil is to Arjuna Alter. So within his lostbelt, he reigns supreme. He is, well, most literally, the only god. However, his lostbelt is still on earth. Enter Archetype Earth. Arcueid Brunestud’s original form was the incredibly powerful princess of the moon who was tricked into drinking blood by Roa. It is unknown how her other personality which is closest to Crimson Moon originated, but it is presumably due to her locking away that old nature that can come out. It is still her anyways. For reference for what Arcueid can do, despite it not mattering; Arcueid Brunestud in the remake has stated directly that if she were at full power, she would’ve taken Shiki Tohno back to her castle as a souvenir. Arcueid at her “full power” prior to Tsukihime’s events is nerfed as well, considering Altrouge robbed some of her hair to make herself stronger. Yeah, her hair is proportional to her power. Arcueid has event storage, which absorbs textures and anything within the vicinity. She is able to release this energy, but the most important thing is that it can reduce fourth dimensional objects to a 2 dimensional state. However, she must tap into her bloodlust to reach that level. Arcueid Brunestud at 30% (Mostly her later levels of strength where she is nerfed) still shows enough strength to the point where she is able to defeat 4 servants. Yeah. She also brought the Night of Wallachia back from the Root and erased his vampiric power with her Marble Phantasm. The Root is a world of nonexistence where Shiki Ryougi is technically at her strongest. It is technically considered “omnipotence” in Fate, but Shiki Ryougi doesn’t have that. Arcueid at 30% also had tanked Sion’s Black Barrel replica with zero damage. The Black Barrel had been able to destroy and drive off TYPEs and kill Divine gods like Zeus (In Notes and F/GO respectively, while Mash’s was a replica.) Arcueid Brunestud in an even weaker state in EXTRA is the only one stated to deal enough damage to Amaterasu to weaken her conceptually, as she is a concept. Amaterasu is a Second-Class planetary being, literally on the level of Goetia himself. Arcueid can use Blut Die Schwester to shave off 1/6 of her conceptual strength. With some of the statements in mind, Archetype Earth is even stronger than all of these. First off, Archetype: Earth does not have a concept of death. Arcueid at night lacks one for the most part, but Shiki is able to see it. Arcueid survives anyways, which she regenerates in the Ciel True Route. The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are literally able to cut off parts of a beings existence, giving them incredibly powerful existence erasure. It can even see lines of death on “unkillable” beings. Shiki Ryougi can’t even see Archetype Earth’s Lines of death. Archetype: Earth controls all textures on planet earth, which earth controls facets of reality. EA, an immensely powerful move can’t even destroy the earth despite it’s space time properties which can annihilate many things and is considered overpowered. Her authority is stronger than any authority on the planet, and is said by Sion to be a “Level 7 Class Nervous System” of the planet. Archetype Earth is aware of the existences of timelines, and can throw people into rifts of space and time. She also can control the elements and chemicals of the planet. The fight is simple. Archetype: Earth’s authority is stronger because Arcueid’s authority by default is stronger than the Moon Cell and pretty much any divine servant. Because Archetype: Earth is legitimately unstoppable on Earth, she has the capacity to beat ORT, but that fight is soon to come. Archetype: Earth due to controlling all textures can just remove Arjuna Alter’s texture or alter it, and use her authority to make him weakened permanently or instantly incapacitate him. She can also nuke said Lostbelt. With ease.
Also it's been stated since forever that unless you're from outside of Earth for example the 12 Olympian Machine Gods if you're a god your power depends on the faith of the people who live there. With Arcueid she could simply remove or kill those believers and Arjuna would be heavily nerfed like the final fight against Karna in Lb4 It's been shown even at his peak it takes a long while to charge Mahapralaya during the story which means I doubt he can use that during a real fight but he still has a lot of other strong abilites including Pashupata but unfortunately Arcueid isn't a Divine deity and can most likely recover from such a strong attack And even if we somehow allow Arjuna to use every Authority he has from absorbing almost every Indian God, Arcueid could just use her Marble Phantasm to counter whatever is thrown at her
This is so wrong... Archetype Earth has authority over beasts , gods , etc. Meaning Godjuna is nothing to her. She is the will of the planet and has full control over all layers of reality, which Godjuna does not. She will always be above her opponent no matter what
@@MaikoTen yes void shiki is the root but still this is servant form her shiki(saber) form is held back or nerfed by void shiki.Archetype(mooncancer) as a servant form is stronger than shiki(saber)
OK here's my take on this battle The will of the planet(Archetype Earth) >>>>>>>>>>>>>the will of the reverse side>>>>>>>>>>>the will of the world>>>>>>>>>>> the will of the land>>>>>>>>>>>>>arjuna god
… The creator of this DOES know base stats and feats don’t mean Jack with type earth since she canonically can make herself as strong, fast, durable, lucky etc as she wants. Right? Regardless what her stats SAY her parameters are. They’re actually EX across the board. And before anyone comes at me with “but Arjuna alter absorbed all the gods power! So he should still be stronger then her!” Yeah. The same gods GAIA CREATED so humanity would hold itself back by worshiping stuff. Regardless how many he absorbs. He can’t be stronger then the same entity who made them. That goes DOUBLE since that same entity can make itself 10x better then you at everything.
Base stats dont amtter, Nasu stated Arcueid (now including the TYPES) is one of the three strongest alongisde Shiki and Primordial Daemons, without saying whos stronger. Primordial daemons are Outer Gods from Lovecraft. Even being mentioned in that vain as those beings, would mkae TYPES completely transcednant to anything in the verse, besdies those affomrentioned Beings.
Archetype Earth is the collective consciousness of the entire planet as well as the ultimate one of Earth. She’s literally the strongest being on the planet so she bodies Arjuna Alter.
I need to look more cause what I know even a downgraded type is stronger than most servants and arcueid I think can take on base zeus who is stronger than arjuna alter
she is not downgraded type, she just didn't have influence on her planet as much as a real type has because of altrouge, she still can make herself stronger than her opponent.
@@MrInuhanyou123 I mean it being real doesnt really matter. But the fact Ea cant completely destroy Earth, like Grand Servants have done just disqualifes him from the disscussion. And ARceuid according to Nasu is not horrbily below Shiki or the Primordial DAemons, who are Outer Gods from Lovecraft. Its so over for anyone in the verse if they fighting one of the TYPES, besdies Shiki and Primordial Daemons. Nasu didnt even rank them, wich just means TYPEs are slightly comparable to them.
@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah wich I meant specfically that statement from the interview. Just being in a top three in no order makes any TYPE completely transcendant to any other characters besides Shiki and Daemons. This is because The Root is something thats completely beyond the world and transcends it as its nature, just like the Outer Gods do.
Gods in nasuverse are the manifestation of beliefs of man or nature given form. One might say for a allegory: a player given admin priveleges. A TYPE (Even a baby, which compare to the rest of the TYPES she is) is basically the owner of the server.
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You really don’t have any clue about Archetype Earth, don’t you? There is no way Arjuna can beat her regardless if he is alter version or not, just basing on their lore.
It really depends on which Arjuna are we talking about. Lostbelt Arjuna absorbed all of the Indian Pantheon and was able to perform both Mahapralaya and Samsara Cycle. But obviously such feats are only limited within the Lostbelt itself. We all know that Servants are a weaker version of Heroic Spirits due to unable fully utilize their authorities. Meanwhile Archetype: Earth has the authority over the whole Earth itself thus making her able to manipulate and control the planet at will. Even as she becomes a Servant it's still no difference. My final verdict is that if Servant Arjuna vs Archetype: Earth, Archetype: Earth would win. And if Lostbelt Arjuna goes again Archetype: Earth? While it is uncertain I daresay it would be no difference than the first possibility. You do NOT mess with the Archetypes, they're tenfold stronger than the Lostbelt Kings or Grand Servants.
What is this?! I am so confused, the only character in the entire Nasuverse who can beat Arc Earth is ORT. Because of the fact that Arc Earth receives backup from Gaia, she is always at least one rank above any opponent, including Arjuna Alter. Arc Earth is also the very will of Gaia, making her stronger than any and all nature spirits and elementals, including Divine Spirits and Fae, for this reason, neither Arjuna Alter or Morgan can compare to her. The only being in canon that can give Archetype Earth a run for her money is ORT, and this is because ORT has Crystal Valley, which can sever her connection to Gaia. I know some people are inevitability going to bring up Void Shiki here, and my immediate response is that Void Shiki’s powers are incredibly inconsistent, if she was truly omnipotent, she would be able determine that Archetype Earth’s existence is beyond all else, including her, as omnipotence incudes omniscience, Shiki was able to determine that Archetype Earth had no concept of death and that she was a “Vampire Princess”, but she didn’t know anything beyond that. In that same scene, Archetype Earth was able to immediately identify what Void Shiki was, referring to her as “the Universe”, referring to the fact that Akasha is outside of the observable universe. I personally rank Void Shiki as third: ORT -> Archetype Earth -> Void Shiki.
Archtype earth represents the earth and all of its power, but shiva who is part of arjuna alter literally destroys the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, and recreates it. She has nothing on him in terms of scale or power. I understand you guys love tsukihime in the comments, but the scale is entirely different.
You know, as the archetype earth, granted the blessing of the planet to always be stronger than her foes, that skill being called Ultimate One. Which in this case is a servant summoned by the throne of heroes, and nonetheless (in the Fate verse) born as human, Arjuna, gets even more nerfed. Never the less, Arcueid Phantasmal Marble is related to the planet itself and manages data, she can literally control anything related to the planet, which we also see how Archetype Earth in the Tsukihime Remake aka Arcueid with her 100% power, can literally warp gravity, contain entire cities, turn oxygen into poison and change the topography of anywhere in the world, that is because she is the ultimate one, and the will of the planet, she has this abilities granted to anything born from this planet (reminder that Arjuna is also born from this planet). On top of all that, we see how 30% Arcueid (the base Arcueid that we are used to, which also appears in Fate Extra) can utilize the ability to use data on her Phantasmal Marble to literally revert a person to a younger moment of her life, which she does in Melty Blood. Not only that but she was also able to summon the crimson moon (the moon itself, not the character Type Moon, her great great grandparent), and even more, the villain wanted to take control over her body to actually use that ability and summon the end of humankind. And another friendly reminder that Arjuna in fate verse is also, at least part, human. Which Arcueid could simply revert him back to a less powered state. On top of all that, we can't ignore her Mystic Eyes. Normally, Arcueid has the Golden Mystic Eyes of Enchantment, Golden being the color normally associated to Demons, but, which is even a skill ingame, Archetype Earth has Rainbow Mystic Eyes, and if you did not know, the only other Rainbow Mystic Eyes is the Death Perception eyes that Shiki Ryogi and Shiki Tohno have, needless to say, those eyes are essentially a Deus EX Machina since they can bring death to things that should not even die. And as for comparison, Gorgon Mystic Eyes (Which even Gilgamesh of all people was wary of them) are just of the Gem color. For another reference, when Luminary form Arcueid (which weaker than Archetype Earth) used her Mystic Eyes on Ciel (Ciel being a abbandoned reincartaned body of Roa, a Dead Apostle who reincarnates non stop, which suffered so much pain that Roa mind died and left her, while making her immortal and having her own body, and was trained by the church) got paralized instantly by being looked by her, she didn't even look back to be affected. On top of even more stuff, Arjuna is also nerfed by the Throne of Heroes by not being able to be stronger than the planet, while Arcueid, who is the will of the planet, instead of being nerfed,is actually buffed if the planet needs to. Which, if you did not know, the planet called the Ultimate One of its planet (which by definition is the strongest being on the planet, already rulling out Arjuna) because it is being attacked by the Alien God, which is a threat from outside. As other feats, I recommend you just play Fate Extra, as you will see how Arcueid herself literally by existing forced BB to also bend to her powers, since the Mooncell couldn't handle Arcueid (and reminder that the Mooncell was holding 2 Beasts in 2 different rooms, Tiamat and Kiara). You really can't compare a Deus EX Machina like Arcueid to normal fate characters, even if they are strong. Arcueid, Void Shiki and Zelretch are the Deus EX Machinas in the world of Fate, and probably in Nasu's works. Which is the reason why you don't see them often
@@rinaldoman9760 fair enough, I kinda wrote too much stuff, I give you that. Tldr, Ultimate One is the title given by the strongest being in the planet, granted by the planet itself Arcueid herself is the Archetype Earth (since she is not born from it, but is considered part of), meaning, by being claimed as strongest being from the planet it automatically says that she is stronger than Arjuna, who is born in Earth. And she, Void Shiki and Zelretch are basically the Deus EX Machinas of Nasu's works, and bc of that they hardly appear out of how strong they are.
@@lad9888 You mean Pralaya ? Literally means nothing when Arcueid can just store him in a pocket dimension. (And the fact that she literally will regen non stop even if used death perception + her Ultimate One that makes her stronger than her enemy automatically)
Because the structure of the Nasu verse is different from other verses since it has many layers of protection, that is, the task of destroying a planet in the Nasuverse is at the level of Multiversal because Gaia and Alaya reduce the power so that they do not destroy the planet. The Earth of the Nasuverse is covered with many layers of protection that reduce the power of the beings present on the planet. The topic of protection layers is very complicated to explain and I don't have much time because of my university classes.
Bro. Are you know the lore yet? You cant vs 2 this , of in lostbelt yes Aujura 100% win if dont have EARTH, but ARC is EARTH that mean what ever she fight , she away stronger enemy x3 time
Arcueid has authority over the planet, meaning she has authority over ALL of gaia, meaning she is far more better than godjuna, hell she is even comparable to type mercury
one more thing arcuied actual power (not as a servant) is to increase her power higher than her enemy. in fgo gameplay, she started to do 2 times damage against everyone.
![FGO [JP] Lostbelt 7『Nahui Mictlan』- Archetype: Earth vs ORT Xibalba](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2fK0vLD8UYs/mqdefault.jpg)
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My Bro is facing THE True Ancestor against a high Divinity Servant 💀🤣🤣🤣
Arjuna Alter can reset the world on a whim though 💀
@@UncleMerlin She is one of the three strongest. In fate, she is second only to Void Shiki.
@@c1sepharak491 Nasu said Ort could beat Arcueid. I mean, Ort literally destroys the planet in his weakened Lostbelt state.
@@UncleMerlin Arjuna Alter is nothing compared to any of the TYPEs. Giving Arcueid divinity WEAKENS her because Gods are beings so far below her existence. She can also negate all of AA's authority.
@@ruta9044 This man really claiming the Olympians are underneath Arcueid when Zeus & gang can data lost her.
When you don't read tsukihime
More like don’t read ANY sort of lore over types plus the wannabe moon vampires.
i read tsukihime but arjuna claps
@@Vins_. idk, i know arjuna alter is too op but, archetypes are the strongest currsponding to the planet they represent, since shes earth and arjuna and the gods are from earth, its likely shes stronger
@@terramoto309 that's not how it works, his burst power will remove her from existence, and he has instant death too like shiki
@@Vins_.
He can't. Arcueid is the brain of the Earth. As long as the Earth still exists, she cannot be killed. Even Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception- which was known to be able to kill ANYTHING, couldn't killed Arcueid permanently. Not to mention Arcueid's Marble Phantasm could rewrote the Indian Lostbelt completely and nullified Arjuna Alter powers.
Lol this is so wrong, real Archetype earth is the will of earth itself, she have authority beyond the entire indian pantheon.
Oh and dont forget earth/Gaia is the one who gave indian gods authority, and AE is his vessel.
*Juna wanker*: NOOO my god is stronger than any character Nasu created. trust me dude you can never win against this retards
Nerd
@@exenor6372 how is he a nerd when he's giving points that were mentioned in the source materials
@@user-ux7rr3nj7k ok
No she doesn’t. Gods are also given authority by the planet and some don’t even need it
Bruh No Arcueid is Arguably the 2nd or 3rd Strongest in Nasuverse and She Can Negate all of Junalter Hax
Who is number 1
@Karlos Manolal Void Shiki, but supposedly Arcueid is the strongest Character in the nasuverse
Void Shiki is strong because of her Connection with Root
@@awakening9577 as u said then manaka gonna be stronger than void :)))
@ende nahhh, Manaka connection is weaker than void , only archetype earth and void shiki have strong connection to root (if not wrong)
To explain how Arjuna Alter would lose so horribly that he would get wiped in a millisecond:
Arjuna in that specific Lostbelt comes from a dead end history that has been brought into the existence by an Alien God. It is effectively one of the many timelines in Fate/Grand Order, brought back into being and made manifest, one of the seven histories shoved over the death of human history.
Arjuna in this lostbelt had gone mad, and with his belief that all “evil” shall be destroyed, he had absorbed all of the Indian Gods to amass strength and grow stronger than many divine beings, leaving Kama the remaining Indian God who was being watched over by the others. Kama, who clearly had no interest in solving the problem, fled from the Lostbelt under her own power and is known as Beast III/L, where she became a problem for Chaldea in her own right before becoming a servant.
Arjuna Alter’s authority controls the entire lostbelt he is in, AND the Lostbelt’s texture. For seven days, the people of the lostbelt descend into madness and debauchery, and Arjuna Alter comes down and destroys the whole universe, ridding “imperfection”. By this, I mean crippled people, injured people, birth defects, anything that doesn’t fall under HIS line of perfection. That is what evil is to Arjuna Alter.
So within his lostbelt, he reigns supreme. He is, well, most literally, the only god.
However, his lostbelt is still on earth.
Enter Archetype Earth. Arcueid Brunestud’s original form was the incredibly powerful princess of the moon who was tricked into drinking blood by Roa. It is unknown how her other personality which is closest to Crimson Moon originated, but it is presumably due to her locking away that old nature that can come out. It is still her anyways.
For reference for what Arcueid can do, despite it not mattering;
Arcueid Brunestud in the remake has stated directly that if she were at full power, she would’ve taken Shiki Tohno back to her castle as a souvenir. Arcueid at her “full power” prior to Tsukihime’s events is nerfed as well, considering Altrouge robbed some of her hair to make herself stronger. Yeah, her hair is proportional to her power.
Arcueid has event storage, which absorbs textures and anything within the vicinity. She is able to release this energy, but the most important thing is that it can reduce fourth dimensional objects to a 2 dimensional state. However, she must tap into her bloodlust to reach that level.
Arcueid Brunestud at 30% (Mostly her later levels of strength where she is nerfed) still shows enough strength to the point where she is able to defeat 4 servants. Yeah. She also brought the Night of Wallachia back from the Root and erased his vampiric power with her Marble Phantasm. The Root is a world of nonexistence where Shiki Ryougi is technically at her strongest. It is technically considered “omnipotence” in Fate, but Shiki Ryougi doesn’t have that.
Arcueid at 30% also had tanked Sion’s Black Barrel replica with zero damage. The Black Barrel had been able to destroy and drive off TYPEs and kill Divine gods like Zeus (In Notes and F/GO respectively, while Mash’s was a replica.)
Arcueid Brunestud in an even weaker state in EXTRA is the only one stated to deal enough damage to Amaterasu to weaken her conceptually, as she is a concept. Amaterasu is a Second-Class planetary being, literally on the level of Goetia himself. Arcueid can use Blut Die Schwester to shave off 1/6 of her conceptual strength.
With some of the statements in mind, Archetype Earth is even stronger than all of these. First off, Archetype: Earth does not have a concept of death. Arcueid at night lacks one for the most part, but Shiki is able to see it. Arcueid survives anyways, which she regenerates in the Ciel True Route. The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are literally able to cut off parts of a beings existence, giving them incredibly powerful existence erasure. It can even see lines of death on “unkillable” beings. Shiki Ryougi can’t even see Archetype Earth’s Lines of death.
Archetype: Earth controls all textures on planet earth, which earth controls facets of reality. EA, an immensely powerful move can’t even destroy the earth despite it’s space time properties which can annihilate many things and is considered overpowered. Her authority is stronger than any authority on the planet, and is said by Sion to be a “Level 7 Class Nervous System” of the planet. Archetype Earth is aware of the existences of timelines, and can throw people into rifts of space and time. She also can control the elements and chemicals of the planet.
The fight is simple.
Archetype: Earth’s authority is stronger because Arcueid’s authority by default is stronger than the Moon Cell and pretty much any divine servant. Because Archetype: Earth is legitimately unstoppable on Earth, she has the capacity to beat ORT, but that fight is soon to come. Archetype: Earth due to controlling all textures can just remove Arjuna Alter’s texture or alter it, and use her authority to make him weakened permanently or instantly incapacitate him. She can also nuke said Lostbelt. With ease.
Also it's been stated since forever that unless you're from outside of Earth for example the 12 Olympian Machine Gods if you're a god your power depends on the faith of the people who live there. With Arcueid she could simply remove or kill those believers and Arjuna would be heavily nerfed like the final fight against Karna in Lb4
It's been shown even at his peak it takes a long while to charge Mahapralaya during the story which means I doubt he can use that during a real fight but he still has a lot of other strong abilites including Pashupata but unfortunately Arcueid isn't a Divine deity and can most likely recover from such a strong attack
And even if we somehow allow Arjuna to use every Authority he has from absorbing almost every Indian God, Arcueid could just use her Marble Phantasm to counter whatever is thrown at her
Atleast i understand why people where this hyped for her when she came out shame i only started a couple months ago.
Will she get a rerun?
@@NewCovenantOfChrist yes, more than likely she is a heavily loved character and if they don’t they just don’t like money lol
When you have no life you make an essay for your dumb waifu.
Based.
Thanks you for the explaination, i had a headache and lost many neurons by watching this extremely wrong video.
Why people be overrating Arjuna alter,there's people that can beat him but cannot beat Arcueid so how can he beat Arcueid it makes no sense
Because he's berserker
Berserker can deal dmg with 1.5 all classes,lol
@@Rosemaryalter2711 this is not gameplay wise.
@@ShinyAzzy he was joking i think
@@Rosemaryalter2711 coz all of them are indians
@@feezdeen4381 not all Indians
Cuz Kama and Ganesha in there
This is so wrong... Archetype Earth has authority over beasts , gods , etc. Meaning Godjuna is nothing to her. She is the will of the planet and has full control over all layers of reality, which Godjuna does not. She will always be above her opponent no matter what
Pretty much
Bruh archetype earth beat any servant
Probably no
Void Shiki exists
@@MaikoTen yes void shiki is the root but still this is servant form her shiki(saber) form is held back or nerfed by void shiki.Archetype(mooncancer) as a servant form is stronger than shiki(saber)
@@peter-bu5tz yes, she is nerfed in FGO
@@MaikoTen isn't she featless??
Is this a joke? Arjuna can’t even compare to Zeus. Mentioning him against anyone stronger than Zeus is pointless
OK here's my take on this battle
The will of the planet(Archetype Earth) >>>>>>>>>>>>>the will of the reverse side>>>>>>>>>>>the will of the world>>>>>>>>>>> the will of the land>>>>>>>>>>>>>arjuna god
I like how no one said this before but blud tf you even saying? The hell is the "will of reverse side"? 💀
… The creator of this DOES know base stats and feats don’t mean Jack with type earth since she canonically can make herself as strong, fast, durable, lucky etc as she wants. Right? Regardless what her stats SAY her parameters are. They’re actually EX across the board.
And before anyone comes at me with “but Arjuna alter absorbed all the gods power! So he should still be stronger then her!” Yeah. The same gods GAIA CREATED so humanity would hold itself back by worshiping stuff. Regardless how many he absorbs. He can’t be stronger then the same entity who made them. That goes DOUBLE since that same entity can make itself 10x better then you at everything.
Base stats dont amtter, Nasu stated Arcueid (now including the TYPES) is one of the three strongest alongisde Shiki and Primordial Daemons, without saying whos stronger.
Primordial daemons are Outer Gods from Lovecraft.
Even being mentioned in that vain as those beings, would mkae TYPES completely transcednant to anything in the verse, besdies those affomrentioned Beings.
@@bennogb5069 dude this was a year ago. Why are you messaging me?
@@destroyercreater98 I just came across it. Ive been messaged on older comments
As much as I love Arjuna alter
Arcuied is just on another level
arcueid stomps lmao
Archetype Earth is the collective consciousness of the entire planet as well as the ultimate one of Earth. She’s literally the strongest being on the planet so she bodies Arjuna Alter.
Please read the pinned comment for clarification
Arc wins low - mid diff tbh
I need to look more cause what I know even a downgraded type is stronger than most servants and arcueid I think can take on base zeus who is stronger than arjuna alter
she is not downgraded type, she just didn't have influence on her planet as much as a real type has because of altrouge, she still can make herself stronger than her opponent.
@@HerMi.T yeah
Archtype:Earth is literally the Ultimate One of Earth. Arjuna Alter dies so horribly that it's not even explainable.
Only man capable of defeating is Shiki and its not with his Knife or mystic eyes
Bro forgot about the best archer of all time. Shinji .
For some reason this made me wonder what would Ea do against the marble phantasm.
Nothing. Since marble phantasm isn't a reality marble it's the real world
@@MrInuhanyou123 I mean it being real doesnt really matter. But the fact Ea cant completely destroy Earth, like Grand Servants have done just disqualifes him from the disscussion.
And ARceuid according to Nasu is not horrbily below Shiki or the Primordial DAemons, who are Outer Gods from Lovecraft.
Its so over for anyone in the verse if they fighting one of the TYPES, besdies Shiki and Primordial Daemons.
Nasu didnt even rank them, wich just means TYPEs are slightly comparable to them.
@@bennogb5069 nasu never ranked shiki primordial demons or arcueid. The only time he mentioned them he specifically said in no particular order.
@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah wich I meant specfically that statement from the interview.
Just being in a top three in no order makes any TYPE completely transcendant to any other characters besides Shiki and Daemons.
This is because The Root is something thats completely beyond the world and transcends it as its nature, just like the Outer Gods do.
Gods in nasuverse are the manifestation of beliefs of man or nature given form. One might say for a allegory: a player given admin priveleges.
A TYPE (Even a baby, which compare to the rest of the TYPES she is) is basically the owner of the server.
Cap
WTF did i just see? Did you just say some zeus victim beats the top 5 strongest character of nasuverse?
Mau Gak Setuju Sudah 1 Tahun yang Lalu...
Anaknya Pak Crimson sama Bu Gaia sebaga Representasi [ Arche Type ] dengan Otoritas World .... ' PHH ' ... Dunia
Celestial x Dust y True Ether
Vs
Dewa ' LOSTBELT ' India
Liners x Ether y Waktu dan Realita TERBATAS -> PRUNNING THEORITICAL WORLD
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You really don’t have any clue about Archetype Earth, don’t you? There is no way Arjuna can beat her regardless if he is alter version or not, just basing on their lore.
It really depends on which Arjuna are we talking about.
Lostbelt Arjuna absorbed all of the Indian Pantheon and was able to perform both Mahapralaya and Samsara Cycle. But obviously such feats are only limited within the Lostbelt itself. We all know that Servants are a weaker version of Heroic Spirits due to unable fully utilize their authorities.
Meanwhile Archetype: Earth has the authority over the whole Earth itself thus making her able to manipulate and control the planet at will. Even as she becomes a Servant it's still no difference.
My final verdict is that if Servant Arjuna vs Archetype: Earth, Archetype: Earth would win. And if Lostbelt Arjuna goes again Archetype: Earth? While it is uncertain I daresay it would be no difference than the first possibility. You do NOT mess with the Archetypes, they're tenfold stronger than the Lostbelt Kings or Grand Servants.
Made a mistake, speed goes to Arjuna Alter according to in game stats. Sorry for the controversy I have caused over that
Not to be rude. But you made MUCH more mistakes then that.
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@@rinaldoman9760 lol it's a HUUUGE mistake thinking that Arjuna Alter wins against Archetype:Earth herself :P eww
@@user-nd3wy5bv9e :B
@@rinaldoman9760 can't even spell stuffs right, ew
a true ancestor / an ultimate one would automatically destroy anyone, including god arjuna.
Depends if this is Lostbelt King Arjuna Alter or Servant Arjuna Alter.
It doesn't depend lmao he gets stomped
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣this is the most ridiculous thing I have seen
What is this?! I am so confused, the only character in the entire Nasuverse who can beat Arc Earth is ORT.
Because of the fact that Arc Earth receives backup from Gaia, she is always at least one rank above any opponent, including Arjuna Alter.
Arc Earth is also the very will of Gaia, making her stronger than any and all nature spirits and elementals, including Divine Spirits and Fae, for this reason, neither Arjuna Alter or Morgan can compare to her.
The only being in canon that can give Archetype Earth a run for her money is ORT, and this is because ORT has Crystal Valley, which can sever her connection to Gaia.
I know some people are inevitability going to bring up Void Shiki here, and my immediate response is that Void Shiki’s powers are incredibly inconsistent, if she was truly omnipotent, she would be able determine that Archetype Earth’s existence is beyond all else, including her, as omnipotence incudes omniscience, Shiki was able to determine that Archetype Earth had no concept of death and that she was a “Vampire Princess”, but she didn’t know anything beyond that. In that same scene, Archetype Earth was able to immediately identify what Void Shiki was, referring to her as “the Universe”, referring to the fact that Akasha is outside of the observable universe.
I personally rank Void Shiki as third:
ORT -> Archetype Earth -> Void Shiki.
Archtype earth represents the earth and all of its power, but shiva who is part of arjuna alter literally destroys the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, and recreates it. She has nothing on him in terms of scale or power. I understand you guys love tsukihime in the comments, but the scale is entirely different.
Also not to mention that in some routes arcueid dies. Not by a God, but by a mortal.
Fine
Tell me you don't know anything about Arcueid by not telling me
Wtf Archetype earth neg dif lol
Cap as hell cap as fuck.
God Arjuna, not necessarily Arjuna Alter. Difference being if he has the entire Indian pantheon’s divinity accessible to him or not
So basically a slightly nerfed Type vs some puny God.
You know, as the archetype earth, granted the blessing of the planet to always be stronger than her foes, that skill being called Ultimate One.
Which in this case is a servant summoned by the throne of heroes, and nonetheless (in the Fate verse) born as human, Arjuna, gets even more nerfed.
Never the less, Arcueid Phantasmal Marble is related to the planet itself and manages data, she can literally control anything related to the planet, which we also see how Archetype Earth in the Tsukihime Remake aka Arcueid with her 100% power, can literally warp gravity, contain entire cities, turn oxygen into poison and change the topography of anywhere in the world, that is because she is the ultimate one, and the will of the planet, she has this abilities granted to anything born from this planet (reminder that Arjuna is also born from this planet).
On top of all that, we see how 30% Arcueid (the base Arcueid that we are used to, which also appears in Fate Extra) can utilize the ability to use data on her Phantasmal Marble to literally revert a person to a younger moment of her life, which she does in Melty Blood. Not only that but she was also able to summon the crimson moon (the moon itself, not the character Type Moon, her great great grandparent), and even more, the villain wanted to take control over her body to actually use that ability and summon the end of humankind. And another friendly reminder that Arjuna in fate verse is also, at least part, human. Which Arcueid could simply revert him back to a less powered state.
On top of all that, we can't ignore her Mystic Eyes. Normally, Arcueid has the Golden Mystic Eyes of Enchantment, Golden being the color normally associated to Demons, but, which is even a skill ingame, Archetype Earth has Rainbow Mystic Eyes, and if you did not know, the only other Rainbow Mystic Eyes is the Death Perception eyes that Shiki Ryogi and Shiki Tohno have, needless to say, those eyes are essentially a Deus EX Machina since they can bring death to things that should not even die. And as for comparison, Gorgon Mystic Eyes (Which even Gilgamesh of all people was wary of them) are just of the Gem color.
For another reference, when Luminary form Arcueid (which weaker than Archetype Earth) used her Mystic Eyes on Ciel (Ciel being a abbandoned reincartaned body of Roa, a Dead Apostle who reincarnates non stop, which suffered so much pain that Roa mind died and left her, while making her immortal and having her own body, and was trained by the church) got paralized instantly by being looked by her, she didn't even look back to be affected.
On top of even more stuff, Arjuna is also nerfed by the Throne of Heroes by not being able to be stronger than the planet, while Arcueid, who is the will of the planet, instead of being nerfed,is actually buffed if the planet needs to. Which, if you did not know, the planet called the Ultimate One of its planet (which by definition is the strongest being on the planet, already rulling out Arjuna) because it is being attacked by the Alien God, which is a threat from outside.
As other feats, I recommend you just play Fate Extra, as you will see how Arcueid herself literally by existing forced BB to also bend to her powers, since the Mooncell couldn't handle Arcueid (and reminder that the Mooncell was holding 2 Beasts in 2 different rooms, Tiamat and Kiara).
You really can't compare a Deus EX Machina like Arcueid to normal fate characters, even if they are strong.
Arcueid, Void Shiki and Zelretch are the Deus EX Machinas in the world of Fate, and probably in Nasu's works. Which is the reason why you don't see them often
Too many words, can't read
@@rinaldoman9760 fair enough, I kinda wrote too much stuff, I give you that.
Tldr, Ultimate One is the title given by the strongest being in the planet, granted by the planet itself
Arcueid herself is the Archetype Earth (since she is not born from it, but is considered part of), meaning, by being claimed as strongest being from the planet it automatically says that she is stronger than Arjuna, who is born in Earth.
And she, Void Shiki and Zelretch are basically the Deus EX Machinas of Nasu's works, and bc of that they hardly appear out of how strong they are.
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@@lad9888 You mean Pralaya ? Literally means nothing when Arcueid can just store him in a pocket dimension.
(And the fact that she literally will regen non stop even if used death perception + her Ultimate One that makes her stronger than her enemy automatically)
Arcuied só perde pra Sikisinha kkkk
Arjun thinks he is Zamasu 😅💀
AA>AE?Did you even read lore?
Arjuna gets stomped mane
Win or lose, they get one shotted by fate extra Gilgamesh.
Please don't gave a false one.
oke im convinced...convinced that u dont know anything ☺
Bro where did you get that arjuna alter animation
from fate grand order tvcm
Top Strongest in Fate
1)Void Shiki - Ryougi Shiki
2)ORT
3)Archetype Earth - Arcueid Brunestud
For who don't know
Void is not the strongest. She even says in fgo she can't win against stronger opponents or else she would be wiping the floor with them.
Lore is Arcueid. She is the Planet Earth
Arcueid>>>>Las beast
No
@@lad9888 it's the truth bro
Suggest more ideas in the comments
here is one...grow a brain😂
One of the type vs king of protos... what can be wrong
Ayo what's the song for this vid?
After Dark
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Thanks, Have a good rest of your day👍
Also I like your Dark Souls profile pic. Artorias is my fav
@@justaguy5641 You're welcome.
Arcueid castillo mileranio y para el gulag
It doesn't matter she is just a earth level
Bro they can only destroy
planet so why in wiki they are shown multiverse
Because the structure of the Nasu verse is different from other verses since it has many layers of protection, that is, the task of destroying a planet in the Nasuverse is at the level of Multiversal because Gaia and Alaya reduce the power so that they do not destroy the planet. The Earth of the Nasuverse is covered with many layers of protection that reduce the power of the beings present on the planet. The topic of protection layers is very complicated to explain and I don't have much time because of my university classes.
So fact
????
Come on now,Arcueid>>
name song
After dark
Arcueid stomps
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Bias
Bro, no..just...just no
Fax
Bro. Are you know the lore yet? You cant vs 2 this , of in lostbelt yes Aujura 100% win if dont have EARTH, but ARC is EARTH that mean what ever she fight , she away stronger enemy x3 time
CAP OR FACT?
Used FGO stats for this (that's why it has FGO in the title)
Bro is this Arjuna is from Mahabharata???
@@user-ic8ck2mo1e No this is Arjuna Alter from Lostbelt 4
Yh this is cap my guy. I get why you say Arjuna wins but yh
Arcueid has authority over the planet, meaning she has authority over ALL of gaia, meaning she is far more better than godjuna, hell she is even comparable to type mercury
Cap
Ima say arjuna becuase he absorbed so many gods
one more thing arcuied actual power (not as a servant) is to increase her power higher than her enemy. in fgo gameplay, she started to do 2 times damage against everyone.
He only absorb the indian God lol he didn't stand a chance against true god like Odin or zeus. Arcuied Archetype is stronger.
@@thenameis6151 oi Indian gods like shiva,vishnu and brahma clap odin and zeus.
@@sanjibkumargogoi5227tf? im clearly talking bout "fate" here i duncare bout hindus gods or whatever god from other sources.
@@thenameis6151 isn,t odin a divine servant,how come he become true god.
bruh
archyetype earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arjuna altar .
Archetype Earth has way less power than her non servant version guys...wake up.
Indeed
Archetype Earth>Arjuna Alter
Stupid comparison has gone too far in this video 🤣
Arcueid vs n-word
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