what are you bringing to this table of thought .....Morrisey was correct then on the TOTP Saville Nightmare being hidden by all that glitter and bouncing youth ! And he still more correct today, perhaps why he exudes such Hate from people like you !!
I can’t hate Moz. He’s always felt disconnected from others and their actions to the point where his utter disgust for humanity can not be hidden anymore. Loneliness is the cause for how he comes off lately. He’s older he doesn’t have much to lose now when he expresses his hate in interviews and such. One of the most disconnected humans from humanity. He’s not a figure to hate but a figure to study and try to understand.
I kind of understand that though as I find Humans quite stupid and ignorant and like sheep especially with what's happening now! No one questions anything and it's left to a few to shout out and do something XXX it hasn't changed but I would like to be proved wrong on that X ps do not like Morrissey's recent views but I suspect he wouldn't lose any sleep over that!💚
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I think some bands (recalling Radiohead and the smiths) always had issues with the media when it comes to music and the relationship with it. I have always found The Smiths a fucking brilliant band for the simplicity of it's lyrics while at the same time, they tell you something really raw but true.
I often think Moz overstates, but here he's right. It was/is political. His mistake is confusing 'pop' and 'popular music'; he's thinking of pop music as popular art, rather than easily-digested commercial pap. Back then there was still a struggle between these two fought out in the few media outlets, but then the internet came along and strangled the music biz as it was. TV talent shows really do mark the end point for pop music as music; Moz was right on that too, just 20 years early!
Nice one Muriel - God forbid these people are not feted just for existing- Julian Temple in particular comes out of this as a really nasty piece of entitlement.
I totally agree with Morrissey....pop music has still... up to this date.... this stigma of being made for stupid people, talking about stupid things just to have fun... i really hate that cause the industry wants us to consume all that crap just for the heck of entertaining.... That´s why I have always loved bands like The Smiths, or R.E.M. and even U2... for doing something else thank just entertaining... they were not changing the world in the 80s but they DO were saying what it was going on
Town and Country club was such a great place in the late 80's. Quick one next door in the pub, wonder into the club, check out the unknown band. Great days.
I can't be the only person who gets a mental image of a ninety-piece orchestra jumping into a big foam box, wearing suits and holding their instruments...
Good old Muriel. They sure don't make them like they used to. Could be even imagine Edith Bowman or Jo Whiley conducting an interview in such a manner - even having the desire to. The BBC and Channel really are in the toilet right now when it comes to substance!
A charity needs to set first before anyone can donate money. What did that lady expect Mick Jagger to do, go down to South America and hand out money to the victims?
Jagger and the stones lost all credibility when Brian Jones died. Simple. Morrissey is bang on here, more tv channels has resulted in deliberately not reflecting the times and filling up schedule's with shite, bloated over produced music videos/concerts and potentially good music shows full of unnessary banter *cough* T4 and the culture show *cough*
Morrissey is a very perceptive guy and an imaginative creative artist, but I think he misses a point here. Popular music in its broadest sense covers a wide spectrum, from light hearted, feelgood party and dance tunes to deep, thought provoking soundtracks to the meaning of life and the state of the world, and there is a time and place for all of it. Rather than criticise shows like TOTP which are primarily a showcase designed for the former category, he should be advocating alternative platforms like my old favourite OGWT with artistic analysis from people like Whispering Bob, or an updated version of it, to showcase the “serious” creative side of population music like that of The Smiths.
I hate Cliff Richard. Good old Muriel Gray at the end having a dig at the hypocrisy of multi-millionaire music artists trying to tell people were their money should be spent to help the latest trendy cause
Morrissey rocks.....................TOTP sucked big time and was completely asinine in it's extremely overlong life.. The Tube was the first rock programme on UK TV that reflected what was being written in Melody Maker and the NME; gritty, alternative and inspiring
This is fascinating, the barren lands after punk and before the internet gave us self broadcasted innovation via MySpace and TH-cam, who better to comment than Mozzer himself. We all want Vera Lynn!
Sorry is this guy a classically trained musician? Has he ever appeared on TOTP himself? he's a bloody hyprocrite. If u hate people, give all your money back and live truly away from society and be self sufficient of the land
If they thought music was trash and corporate in 1987 they should see the drivel today.
it's been *complete* rubbish since its inception
87 was pretty bad
Slightly sad to admit that I love listening to this man bloviate and bitch about things. It's soothing somehow.
indeed
- so in other words, you just like hearing him talk
Bloviate - spot on!
what are you bringing to this table of thought .....Morrisey was correct then on the TOTP Saville Nightmare being hidden by all that glitter and bouncing youth ! And he still more correct today, perhaps why he exudes such Hate from people like you !!
Bloviate.😊
If only somebody had the guts Morrissey had today to speak out against all the crap that is out today...
You said this 12 years ago and it’s only getting worse
@@leespiderpod i said what I said lol 😭🤙🏽
Morrissey is still saying it and he has been branded a right wing reactionary while his views have never really changed
The only person who could wear his own tee shirt and make it look cool
Sure
What's even sadder is that it's even worse today in popular music. It was almost like a prophecy what Moz was saying.
10 years later and it’s even worse
"The crowd has to exude this hysteria... Deliberately NOT reflecting the times." Hilariously on point.
I can’t hate Moz. He’s always felt disconnected from others and their actions to the point where his utter disgust for humanity can not be hidden anymore. Loneliness is the cause for how he comes off lately. He’s older he doesn’t have much to lose now when he expresses his hate in interviews and such. One of the most disconnected humans from humanity. He’s not a figure to hate but a figure to study and try to understand.
ikr! i hate the fact that everyone is hating on morrissey
I kind of understand that though as I find Humans quite stupid and ignorant and like sheep especially with what's happening now! No one questions anything and it's left to a few to shout out and do something XXX it hasn't changed but I would like to be proved wrong on that X ps do not like Morrissey's recent views but I suspect he wouldn't lose any sleep over that!💚
Is a sign of sanity to be maladjusted in this world.
Haha she took Mick Jagger to the fucking cleaners at the end there
Fair play to the interviewer at the end with Jagger. She cut right through the bullshit and owned him on his political/charitable affectations.
Yeah, Jagger comes across as an arrogant tosser, what a surprise! Think the interviewer was Muriel Gray, I could be wrong...
I loved it. He's an old creep and I like it especially when women don't bow to him.
The great Muriel Gray.
mick jagger well and truly speared at the end there by the lady with the gorgeous Scots accent.
Muriel Gray.
That clip of Mick Jagger is hilarious
I find it hilarious that he is wearing a Smiths tshirt.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I think some bands (recalling Radiohead and the smiths) always had issues with the media when it comes to music and the relationship with it. I have always found The Smiths a fucking brilliant band for the simplicity of it's lyrics while at the same time, they tell you something really raw but true.
Simplicity of the lyrics? The Smiths lyrics aren't that simple
I often think Moz overstates, but here he's right. It was/is political. His mistake is confusing 'pop' and 'popular music'; he's thinking of pop music as popular art, rather than easily-digested commercial pap. Back then there was still a struggle between these two fought out in the few media outlets, but then the internet came along and strangled the music biz as it was. TV talent shows really do mark the end point for pop music as music; Moz was right on that too, just 20 years early!
Morrissey you are completely right! pop is now so fukin rubbish!
Billy Albert even worse now 😩
"to me, it's political. i see it as totally political. it's like deliberately not reflecting the times" yep
Why does it sound like everyone has a lisp
lol
😂😁
Nice one Muriel - God forbid these people are not feted just for existing- Julian Temple in particular comes out of this as a really nasty piece of entitlement.
Pode passar o tempo não consigo controlar a emoção desse conjunto. Amo vocês que músicas lindosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
I totally agree with Morrissey....pop music has still... up to this date.... this stigma of being made for stupid people, talking about stupid things just to have fun... i really hate that cause the industry wants us to consume all that crap just for the heck of entertaining.... That´s why I have always loved bands like The Smiths, or R.E.M. and even U2... for doing something else thank just entertaining... they were not changing the world in the 80s but they DO were saying what it was going on
Town and Country club was such a great place in the late 80's. Quick one next door in the pub, wonder into the club, check out the unknown band. Great days.
i would quite like to see a 90 piece orchestra jump into a box full of foam...
morrissey in interviews reminds me of me at therapy
I can't be the only person who gets a mental image of a ninety-piece orchestra jumping into a big foam box, wearing suits and holding their instruments...
He did have a point...
Then came Jools Holland. Thank god!
Would've been nice to see Jaggers full response...
th-cam.com/video/JM6uWABNI4M/w-d-xo.html
Amazing, so few comments on this subject. TOTP is absolutely revolting! I always loved how The Cure, always did their best to mock TOTP!
You see that kids? Pop music has ALWAYS been vapid and unimaginative.
What he used to say passion for animals life's and his view on covid as he very correctly calls it
he basically wanted TOTP to be The old grey whistle test. Thanks for that, Morrissey.
as always mozza hits it on the head and andi kershaw been through the the mill
Muriel Gray, a very smart person and a great interviewer.
Great point made by Mozza at 3:28
And after this things got exponentially worse.
Good old Muriel. They sure don't make them like they used to. Could be even imagine Edith Bowman or Jo Whiley conducting an interview in such a manner - even having the desire to. The BBC and Channel really are in the toilet right now when it comes to substance!
Jo Whiley wouldve kissed ass as usual then name dropped all over her precocious radio show!!
A charity needs to set first before anyone can donate money. What did that lady expect Mick Jagger to do, go down to South America and hand out money to the victims?
She expected him to set some of the profits aside and to have a plan of how to help
Says the man who ripped his shirt open with Marry Me written on his chest on Top Of The Pops
You missed the point of that entirely then?
@@robcaldwell4010 yes but ..tell me
Jagger and the stones lost all credibility when Brian Jones died. Simple. Morrissey is bang on here, more tv channels has resulted in deliberately not reflecting the times and filling up schedule's with shite, bloated over produced music videos/concerts and potentially good music shows full of unnessary banter *cough* T4 and the culture show *cough*
I like Jaggers music (with the 60's and 70's Stones, at least), but he is indeed hypocrite.
I like that Muriel Gray.
Morrissey is a very perceptive guy and an imaginative creative artist, but I think he misses a point here. Popular music in its broadest sense covers a wide spectrum, from light hearted, feelgood party and dance tunes to deep, thought provoking soundtracks to the meaning of life and the state of the world, and there is a time and place for all of it. Rather than criticise shows like TOTP which are primarily a showcase designed for the former category, he should be advocating alternative platforms like my old favourite OGWT with artistic analysis from people like Whispering Bob, or an updated version of it, to showcase the “serious” creative side of population music like that of The Smiths.
Morrissey has always had cool hair. Can you say that about ANYONE else?
Elvis and Morrissey had the best hair. The music's not bad either...😏
@@rogersmartinjr.8588 Bowie?
@@thewomble1509 Yes. An oversight on my part.✌🏻
I hate Cliff Richard. Good old Muriel Gray at the end having a dig at the hypocrisy of multi-millionaire music artists trying to tell people were their money should be spent to help the latest trendy cause
For some reason, Morrisey reminds me of Will Young in this interview.
Morrissey rocks.....................TOTP sucked big time and was completely asinine in it's extremely overlong life..
The Tube was the first rock programme on UK TV that reflected what was being written in Melody Maker and the NME; gritty, alternative and inspiring
Great clip! Jagger can dance!!
This documentary seems to have been made in 1987 and is ahead of its time. TOTP didn't change and is now axed from our screens.
Great going Mick !!
Banter.
@sheywey I don't think so. At least he didn't reduce Susan Boyle to tears and prevent her from singing "Wild Horses" on American Idol.
Wait what? Who did that?
The clip of Mick Jagger
Is classic he's dancing like a drunken middle aged uncle at a wedding🎉
I'd like him to explain what the front cover of Kill Uncle was all about.
What di u mean?
@@wavelengthrecords-1 what do you think?
@@danielmoran9902 I have no idea. Because he was shot from below? How does ur question relate to this video?
@@wavelengthrecords-1 in your ass, cupcake.
@@wavelengthrecords-1 does it have to? Why is this of such importance to you?
Christ Jagger makes me cringe.
yes he's very cool isn't he, yeah
engaging video...
moz as usual is so right,jagger is a total nobhead,muriel was great,i agree with mickeyferry.
I agree with him. It is and was, a cavalcade of plasticity.....
what was the name of this programme
Real Music created by the likes of Morrissey and The Smiths Pop should have and still should be separated from Real Music programmes
so excited I was with that clip that I missed few words there. LOL! "could you even imagine" I meant, and Channel 4.
This is fascinating, the barren lands after punk and before the internet gave us self broadcasted innovation via MySpace and TH-cam, who better to comment than Mozzer himself. We all want Vera Lynn!
I wish MOZZER wanted and therefore had his own tv network. That would fix a myriad of the world's ills.
I just don't know anymore...
i think she touched a nerve wiv mick at the end of that video they know they should be givin the profits 2 someone but they dont wanna lol
in 20 years nothings changed. Musics now sponsered by fucking mobile pone companies now and channel 4 presenters.
What... the fuck... was Jagger... 'doing'?
Well, I'd agree he _has_ been. But here? No.
Spot on ;)
:()
The narrator sounds straight out of David Firth's Waller F.M.
TOPT doesn't exist anyway. Morrissey comes across as awful posh for someone from Manchester
Pop music is designed for those who don't need, want or like to think.
Muriel gray rocks!!!!!!
Brad Pitt comes out at 3:04!
Jagger. What a hypocrite.
@buildgod93
Tommy Gun- the Clash
haha, he does! I think thats just the lisp though...
It was actually live performance. I thought TOTP was always canned music.
hahah that cracked me up as well
Yeah...it was quite the witty reply from yourself!
I doubt Andy Kershaw has ever been likened to Brad Pitt before!! He'd be pissing himself if he ever read your comment...
Where is top of the pops now ?If by silly He means fun then pop music is mean't to be fun.what's wrong with fun any way ?
3:04
ahhhh, alas. morrissey can be SOOO boorish and self absorbed at times. just let people have fun without your senseless criticisms. lo
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa back at ya
Do you really believe that? The biggest mistake Smiths fans make is mistaking him for a humorless pr*ck. Half the things he says is Wildean fibs.
Johnny Marr.
His chin
Laugh in a mocking way? At the sheer idiocy of our man here (msbng)?
MULLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
some of the best and worst most obscure artists have been on totp...so not entirely true.
Pop is Pop Real Music is Real Music
BS.Pop is real music too.
he seems real smart when you are 14, since then he just seems silly and fay
Seems to me he sensed something quite sinister was going on at TOTP.
!
12/03/1916
The only intelligent musician in the world
disagreed.
too 80s
The Shits
Mozz > Muhammad :P
Overbite.
Mozza got some surgery to sort that out.
I hate banter
Sorry is this guy a classically trained musician? Has he ever appeared on TOTP himself? he's a bloody hyprocrite. If u hate people, give all your money back and live truly away from society and be self sufficient of the land
hes bi isnt he?