Regardless of what people say Aluminum bikes when done right are amazing, I own an S-Works Tarmac sl6 and a Cannondale CAAD10 Black inc and that Cannondale is a damn good frame
Enjoyed this one. Found myself relating to almost everything Josh was saying. I'm a fellow novice and saw Josh when I was in Specialized Bukit Pasoh collecting my bike. Rick and Anders are the best.
With some little modifications (basically a standard mount with an extra piece of old tube rubber for better fit) I attached varia light to the very top of seat tube turning it upside down (radar on top, light on bottom). Works perfectly, holds strong and just enough clearance (the same 52cm frame).
I crapped on this bike when you first posted it for all the usual reasons, but the riders honest self appraisal should be acknowledged. As a senior rider whose has a similar height I’d be happy to meet up with Josh and let him try riding my Ti or steel endurance frames ( Mason ) so he could really feel the difference… and 44 cm bar is def too wide for his body proportions.
Hey, mate. Thanks for the feedback. Since this video was posted, I’ve been corrected on the handlebars. Apparently they’re actually 40cm. I reckon that would explain why they feel right.
@@milkbunnies Ohh, you did the Malacca ride? Very nice! Sure thing, and no rush..let me know when is best for you and I'll try to make it happen. Thanks.
My first bike was a Caad 12 with 105’s. I remember the person trying to sell my broke ass their last Supersix Evo HM that was way too big for me. I see a lot of newbies come on here with high end bikes but are clueless. Give it time I guess.
I love new allez sprint. I am about to buy it, however the welding at head tube is so horrifying, my eyes hurts so bad 🥲 The price should be under 1500sgd. Other than that, it is a perfect aluminium frame!
If you are riding hard enough where your ribs hurt gasping for oxygen, you won’t have the luxury to notice how horrible the welds are 😆 which is exactly what a crit machine like this Allez was made to do.
At this point people are just chatting shit, the new aluminium frames with 28mm-30mm tyres are as comfortable as carbon is. I've got a Giant TCR SL race bike and a Specialized Allex Sprint (rim brake, which is stiffer than the new Allez) and riding them back to back they are both very similar, no discernable difference in comfort when using 28mm tyres.
the dislike for aluminium comes from owning all different types of frames including mtn bike, bmx, road, ect... aluminium is always the worst performing in most areas. and if youre spending 10k thats you can spend a few more k...
This bike is a scam 🤣 For the total money he spent on the 'stupid' upgrades and the bike itself, i can get the cube agree endurance roadbike with dura ace di2 12sp with mavic cosmic carbon wheels here in germany, which you can easily upgrade to hit 7.0kg..
I know people who have Allez bikes and also have top level frames like the SL8, fancy Factors, etc. And they say the Allez feels and rides every bit as good as them. It's just heavy. And the price... Is definitely not low. And.. this specific bike came specced totally wrong on the saddle (a big wide saddle on a small frame) and habdlebar width (again.. big wide bars on a small frame)
Just saw a Specialized ad on Instagram showing someone crashing his Allez in a crit with the tag line "Imagine crashing 12k bike"... Lol I wonder who thinks their Allez is more crashable. If you crash an aluminum bike, it'll meet the same fate as a carbon bike too.
Obviously steel and titanium are more durable, but carbon is more brittle than aluminium in a direct impact, no? Or is this a falsehood that’s been spread too far and wide? Crashing aside, I’d feel better (but still “not good”) about an aluminium frame tipping over and other kinds of carelessness than I would with an even more expensive carbon frame. 🤷🏼♂️
@@VegasHyrulerwhen frames do get damaged, carbon is quite easy to repair. But an aluminum frame with special shapes is more difficult and likely impossible to make certain types of repairs that you can do with carbon
@@ayowser01 it's very aggressive. I don't know why alot of people slam the stems when you can just use the drops or the top of the hood for an aero position. Stem slamming has no benefit for non racers...its even more pointless when you are doing group rides where you can draft
@@bonbonflippers4298 I owned a 2018 allez sprint so I know just how aggressive it feels. It was my first road bike, and I purchased it based on cost, looks and marketing. I wanted the dropped seat stay look at an aluminum entry point. Bikes look so much better with slammed stems, but we don't all have what Fizik would call a "snake" spinal curvature. I left my stem uncut. I even had to add a 130mm to get the right fit.
I explained why I slammed it in the interview. My saddle height is low enough that it gave me the right amount of drop. The bike is actually much more comfortable since I had it done.
Also I don’t “now want” an endurance bike. I said my next bike-probably years plural from now-would likely be one with an endurance geometry. My current distances aren’t longer than an RTI and this bike is fine for that.
10K for an aluminum frame and mid tier components. Hard pass. Way overpriced for what it is, no matter how nice you think it rides. Paying for the brand and nothing else.
It’s heavy, it’s ridiculously overpriced for aluminum frame (even compared to trek emonda alr :)), smart welds are just a gimmick, crappy designed for mechanical routing… and so on and so on… but it rides awesome 😎 and after all the disadvantages I found and keep finding I would probably buy it again.
He is new to the game. But He could've look for advice before buying. I didn't feel like he is gonna race. But It's little to pricy for someone who will just ride. But again. It's an individual feeling and choice
We kind of all make mistakes buying a bike not made to be what you want it to be in the beginning. Only after riding a year and trying more than 1 type of geometry you eventually find what type of riding you want. If you can fit into a race geometry comfortably than that's great. As you get older you come to the realization that not everything is about speed,watts, looks or expectations
@@bonbonflippers4298 you are right. We all learn with the time. Me myself did a bike fit before buying. But with the time you become more flexible and you can adapt to a race geometry. But exactly like you also said. When we become older if the flexibility is not there anymore , we will look for more comfortably than race posture. In my case I never stopped like quitting cycling. I had my off days but since I started again I can feel or better said I’m getting my flexibility and fitness back. (49). And knowing the most of this sport I’m still looking for perfection and asking the ones who knows more than me. Because there is always someone that knows better that you. Take care man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
So he spent more than 7,000 USD for this bike + upgrades? He could've easily buy the Trifox X16 QR and save loads of money. There's no such thing as high-end aluminum as it's disposable if it cracks. Ti or Reynolds 853/953 are bikes for life.
Not really sure Josh had a convincing reason to blow $7k on this overpriced rig. He's a new cyclist and got suckered into this ripoff. He would've been better served on a Canyon Endured aluminum.
i hate aluminium, its not strong or durable like steel, not light like carbon, and cant be repaired like steel or carbon. once it breaks its trash. even ti is a better material for a bike frame, it would be really cool to see ti frames with aero shapes like this. i think bike brands are missing the mark in that regard
Aero ti frames are too heavy that's why you don't see them. Guru did make a tt aero looking frame called Merus I think but it was very heavy. Tubes were huge.
@@bonbonflippers4298 not heavier than most carbon road bikes ppl buy for ten grand. Ti is hard to form which is why theyre not out there as much. But a good ti frame over anything aluminum any day of the week
Regardless of what people say Aluminum bikes when done right are amazing, I own an S-Works Tarmac sl6 and a Cannondale CAAD10 Black inc and that Cannondale is a damn good frame
I like this comment from Josh about his OSPW: "It's embarrassingly expensive." 😆
Enjoyed this one. Found myself relating to almost everything Josh was saying. I'm a fellow novice and saw Josh when I was in Specialized Bukit Pasoh collecting my bike. Rick and Anders are the best.
With some little modifications (basically a standard mount with an extra piece of old tube rubber for better fit) I attached varia light to the very top of seat tube turning it upside down (radar on top, light on bottom). Works perfectly, holds strong and just enough clearance (the same 52cm frame).
A stark contrast from the 'refined' gentleman from last interview.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's the classic.
Yep.. U would have thought the last guy spelled his alphabet as ABCfuckDEFfuck
@@xaein9515 😂😂😂😂😂
Indeed
I'll be expecting more Aluminium "Superbikes" in the future. The Allez Sprint is a really good bike!
Yes it is really underated good bike!
You can still use 100mm stem but use Specialized Short Reach handlebars. I think 65mm reach.
Very balanced interview and nice to see Josh. :)
beautiful paintjob
"More affordable" 😂
Have been using the Varia radar for a good few months and I mounted it almost towards the bottom of the seatpost but still it detects accurately.
I crapped on this bike when you first posted it for all the usual reasons, but the riders honest self appraisal should be acknowledged. As a senior rider whose has a similar height I’d be happy to meet up with Josh and let him try riding my Ti or steel endurance frames ( Mason ) so he could really feel the difference… and 44 cm bar is def too wide for his body proportions.
Hey, mate. Thanks for the feedback. Since this video was posted, I’ve been corrected on the handlebars. Apparently they’re actually 40cm. I reckon that would explain why they feel right.
Also would love to see how a titanium or steel bike feels!
@@VegasHyruler maybe next week…? I’m recovering from riding to Malacca
@@milkbunnies Ohh, you did the Malacca ride? Very nice! Sure thing, and no rush..let me know when is best for you and I'll try to make it happen. Thanks.
I love this style of interview.
My first bike was a Caad 12 with 105’s. I remember the person trying to sell my broke ass their last Supersix Evo HM that was way too big for me. I see a lot of newbies come on here with high end bikes but are clueless. Give it time I guess.
Is the CAAD12 still with you?
@@yonglingng5640No, I traded in towards an Emonda in 2017.
I love new allez sprint. I am about to buy it, however the welding at head tube is so horrifying, my eyes hurts so bad 🥲 The price should be under 1500sgd.
Other than that, it is a perfect aluminium frame!
If you are riding hard enough where your ribs hurt gasping for oxygen, you won’t have the luxury to notice how horrible the welds are 😆 which is exactly what a crit machine like this Allez was made to do.
Just learn to love the welds. They make the bike look more interesting. Without them, it would look like a Tarmac.
great video,i think i just notice that bike is really a good bike
Please get the Specialized peeps to teach Tay about customer service.
10.2k for Alu bike. Next pls
Not for *just* the frame, ffs.
Semper fi, I would've made it 2x, but that's just cause I live in Cali. Nice bike, btw.
At this point people are just chatting shit, the new aluminium frames with 28mm-30mm tyres are as comfortable as carbon is. I've got a Giant TCR SL race bike and a Specialized Allex Sprint (rim brake, which is stiffer than the new Allez) and riding them back to back they are both very similar, no discernable difference in comfort when using 28mm tyres.
Add on tubeless than it's all about the geometry.
the dislike for aluminium comes from owning all different types of frames including mtn bike, bmx, road, ect... aluminium is always the worst performing in most areas. and if youre spending 10k thats you can spend a few more k...
Nike bike, Josh!
Get the sense that he bought it because he likes the look of it. Which is fair enough
This bike is a scam 🤣
For the total money he spent on the 'stupid' upgrades and the bike itself, i can get the cube agree endurance roadbike with dura ace di2 12sp with mavic cosmic carbon wheels here in germany, which you can easily upgrade to hit 7.0kg..
I know people who have Allez bikes and also have top level frames like the SL8, fancy Factors, etc. And they say the Allez feels and rides every bit as good as them. It's just heavy.
And the price... Is definitely not low. And.. this specific bike came specced totally wrong on the saddle (a big wide saddle on a small frame) and habdlebar width (again.. big wide bars on a small frame)
Just saw a Specialized ad on Instagram showing someone crashing his Allez in a crit with the tag line "Imagine crashing 12k bike"... Lol I wonder who thinks their Allez is more crashable. If you crash an aluminum bike, it'll meet the same fate as a carbon bike too.
Obviously steel and titanium are more durable, but carbon is more brittle than aluminium in a direct impact, no? Or is this a falsehood that’s been spread too far and wide?
Crashing aside, I’d feel better (but still “not good”) about an aluminium frame tipping over and other kinds of carelessness than I would with an even more expensive carbon frame. 🤷🏼♂️
@@VegasHyrulerwhen frames do get damaged, carbon is quite easy to repair. But an aluminum frame with special shapes is more difficult and likely impossible to make certain types of repairs that you can do with carbon
Looking forward to more alu bikes!
U mean more $10k allez sprint right 😂
@@OompaLoompaCycling or a 8K CAAD or something 😳😳😬😬
Slams the stem and now wants an "endurance" bike. Could have just left the stem uncut to make it adjustable. At least it looks "pro." 😆 🤣
Even without slamming the stem, it has aggressive geometry.
@@ayowser01 it's very aggressive. I don't know why alot of people slam the stems when you can just use the drops or the top of the hood for an aero position. Stem slamming has no benefit for non racers...its even more pointless when you are doing group rides where you can draft
@@bonbonflippers4298 I owned a 2018 allez sprint so I know just how aggressive it feels. It was my first road bike, and I purchased it based on cost, looks and marketing. I wanted the dropped seat stay look at an aluminum entry point.
Bikes look so much better with slammed stems, but we don't all have what Fizik would call a "snake" spinal curvature. I left my stem uncut. I even had to add a 130mm to get the right fit.
I explained why I slammed it in the interview. My saddle height is low enough that it gave me the right amount of drop. The bike is actually much more comfortable since I had it done.
Also I don’t “now want” an endurance bike. I said my next bike-probably years plural from now-would likely be one with an endurance geometry. My current distances aren’t longer than an RTI and this bike is fine for that.
10K for an aluminum frame and mid tier components. Hard pass. Way overpriced for what it is, no matter how nice you think it rides. Paying for the brand and nothing else.
It’s heavy, it’s ridiculously overpriced for aluminum frame (even compared to trek emonda alr :)), smart welds are just a gimmick, crappy designed for mechanical routing… and so on and so on… but it rides awesome 😎 and after all the disadvantages I found and keep finding I would probably buy it again.
He is new to the game. But He could've look for advice before buying. I didn't feel like he is gonna race. But It's little to pricy for someone who will just ride. But again. It's an individual feeling and choice
We kind of all make mistakes buying a bike not made to be what you want it to be in the beginning. Only after riding a year and trying more than 1 type of geometry you eventually find what type of riding you want.
If you can fit into a race geometry comfortably than that's great. As you get older you come to the realization that not everything is about speed,watts, looks or expectations
@@bonbonflippers4298 you are right. We all learn with the time. Me myself did a bike fit before buying. But with the time you become more flexible and you can adapt to a race geometry. But exactly like you also said. When we become older if the flexibility is not there anymore , we will look for more comfortably than race posture.
In my case I never stopped like quitting cycling. I had my off days but since I started again I can feel or better said I’m getting my flexibility and fitness back. (49). And knowing the most of this sport I’m still looking for perfection and asking the ones who knows more than me. Because there is always someone that knows better that you. Take care man 🤜🏽🤛🏽
I also was very close to buying one... But decided on the Sl6 instead. If the price comes down a bit I may get one.
The SL6 is a great bike! Owned one myself.
What variant is yours? FACT 9r, 10r or 12r?
@@yonglingng5640 10r, Specialized not S-Works
@@OompaLoompaCycling I see, but I was actually asking Glen 😅, but nevermind.
@@yonglingng5640 hahahahaha oops
he have some problems with legs😁
So he spent more than 7,000 USD for this bike + upgrades? He could've easily buy the Trifox X16 QR and save loads of money. There's no such thing as high-end aluminum as it's disposable if it cracks. Ti or Reynolds 853/953 are bikes for life.
Yes, yes, I could've gotten hundreds of other bikes instead, but guess what? I wanted this bike, so I got it.
@@VegasHyruler Enjoy your steed man
Not really sure Josh had a convincing reason to blow $7k on this overpriced rig. He's a new cyclist and got suckered into this ripoff. He would've been better served on a Canyon Endured aluminum.
i hate aluminium, its not strong or durable like steel, not light like carbon, and cant be repaired like steel or carbon. once it breaks its trash. even ti is a better material for a bike frame, it would be really cool to see ti frames with aero shapes like this. i think bike brands are missing the mark in that regard
Check out the Bossi Strada and Reilly Fusion
@@happywolfie1980 what for? theyre not ti frames with aero shapes
Aero ti frames are too heavy that's why you don't see them. Guru did make a tt aero looking frame called Merus I think but it was very heavy. Tubes were huge.
@@bonbonflippers4298 not heavier than most carbon road bikes ppl buy for ten grand. Ti is hard to form which is why theyre not out there as much. But a good ti frame over anything aluminum any day of the week
@@timtaylor9590 yeah. With what he paid
52 is too big for 168 cm.