Idc if this facility is clean, calves are fed, etc.. THIS IS WRONG!!! we would go to prison fot ripping a human child from its mother and caging it up for up to 20 weeks old just to eat them! There is no rationalizing...this is horrific.
They do get to go outside, but really there isn’t need for cattle to go outside as long as inside is appropriate. Take free-stall dairy barns for example, as long as they are kept clean and bedded cows wouldn’t even want to go out
Vealers usually are raised quite fine. The video shows that. DairyCarrie has a good article on her visit to some veal farms on her website if you want to see some other farms. You’d find it by searching “DairyCarrie veal” probably 👍
@@CalvesFanatic : On grass or at least on bedding, and with room to run and jump, would be a fine way to raise calves. With their mothers, and at least having their mothers' milk by daytime, would be an even better way.
@@pvtbuddie i haven’t watched this video in ages so don’t remember what’s up here exactly, but often the slatted pens will have mats on top to make them soft/comfortable. They can be perfectly happy without their mothers - often, cows are quite bad at mothering, especially common dairy breeds
@@CalvesFanatic : Cows in common dairy breeds often haven't been mothered or seen any mothering, and most dairy farms have offered no survival difference, including no selective breeding difference, for good mothers, for close to a hundred years. And, no, these floors didn't have any bedding. This is an improvement over crating, but a finer way of raising them would be on a milk sharing plan on pasture. You wouldn't get white veal, perhaps unless you butchered quite early, but it would be milk fed, which, according to the chefs in several videos I just watched, is quite tasty itself.
Nice video. Super clean facility. Very clean, properly managed well fed cattle. With those rations thats gotta be some very good tasting veal. I would have thought veal calves go to slaughter below 700 pounds. Making me hungry... Got food?? Thank a farmer......... PETA sucks
bel pet Because even in the least restrictive form of veal farms like this, veal is by definition calves that are purposely deprived of exercise to make their meat fattier and more tender. The corn they eat, even with the straw for fiber, provide 0 nutrients and cause diabetes and an incompetent digestive track. The cows are calm, but the farm still isn’t humane, because veal itself isn’t humane.
@@nazaracanreapit : This is not the least restrictive. I just watched a video about calves pastured in thick grass and raised on that and surplus milk. Calves can also be raised with their mothers, but separated overnight after the first month or so, as part of a system called "milk sharing".
@@nazaracanreapit veal, by definition, is from cattle under a year old. There is no specific requirements past that. Those calves seem healthy, so I don’t think their diet was missing anything. Veal from calves raised by cows outdoors *is* a product
anyone who supports the diary industry by drinking milk, eating cheese, butter or any other dairy products has no business criticizing the veal industry.
Exactly, it's like what I say about vegetarians, they don't have a right to tell meat eaters to not eat meat when hens and cows are abused in some farms, I'm a meat eater and i buy from local farms
No need to criticise alot of it. But they would have room for it, anyway. Different countries have different welfare standards, so while a certain country may have fine veal farms another one might have more bad ones. A person may have issues with veal crates used in certain places (for the milk fed veal), they happen to be banned in the EU and some other areas. Not to mention the individual schemes that ban them (even if not banned on a country-wide level) and farms that don’t use them. In alot of countries (US, Ireland, UK, etc), the vast majority of bull calves go for beef production instead of veal.
I criticise myself not the industry. I love animals but eat them. Sometimes even animals that have been treated horribly. Makes me a bit of a hypocrit and possibly the worst kind of meat eater. To understand the implications of what i do and do it anyway.
XTheCrystalBeastGuyX every single animal in the wild has its own life before being killed, these cows don’t. They’re literally raised to be eaten and pretty much tortured.
All people saying OH!!!!! they're killing babies.... Please stop. Animals are animals not humans... Animals for food. OK. What about chickens ? From egg to mouth in less than 2 months OH!!!!!! my god you're eating babies... Once more, please STOP your BS
@nella bella 😂😂throwin the race card i see. Well lucky for the cows they dont have complex emotions so they dont really care when they're abour to die.
@@owenjackson4751 Cows indeed know when they are about to die, or when they have lost loved ones. I am pro cow farming and meat consumption, but don't gloss over the dark parts of it. I hate hypocrites.
Nature is far and away more brutal. Go watch a nature video on hyenas, African Wild Dogs, Orcas or crocodiles if you doubt me. These calves are raised in humane, if a bit sheltered, existence in clean conditions with plenty of food and water. In normal circumstances, a male calf born on a dairy farm would be killed immediately whilst a cow too old to give milk would be turned into sausage or pet food. As long as people eat meat, the mindset should be to remember that it was once a living animal and to not waste food.....
Darth Belal the difference the farming doesn’t allow them a normal life. They don’t eat “food”, they eat corn they can’t digest to make them fat enough to sell because that’s literally the only thing they can do outside of standing and walking within their few feet of crowded space. They are not raised humane.
that is absolutely the most moronic comment ever. people always call us who hunt cruel... but we have to work to find our animals. and they are free and wild. these animals in the meat industry are raised from birth to death in prison. you are such a tool
Nature is nature. When people are in charge, it’s no longer natural. For instance, if a dog lived in the wild, then whatever happens happens. When you adopt a dog, you’re responsible for their safety, health, and livelihood.
Idc if this facility is clean, calves are fed, etc.. THIS IS WRONG!!! we would go to prison fot ripping a human child from its mother and caging it up for up to 20 weeks old just to eat them! There is no rationalizing...this is horrific.
So no outside time on grass?!?!
Awesome tour Andrew! Had me chuckling along with you at the end there👍☺️
Horrific.
so they never go outside, ever? Why not?
Keeps the meat good
7:30 mark They are outside.
They do get to go outside, but really there isn’t need for cattle to go outside as long as inside is appropriate. Take free-stall dairy barns for example, as long as they are kept clean and bedded cows wouldn’t even want to go out
@Marilyn Willett they’re perfectly happy inside as long as their shed/barn is well maintained and well built 😊
@@CalvesFanatic Then why do the ones who can keep escaping?
Number 23 is out again 🙄.
Again? She did this last month!
You say this is better than crates but it still only a few feet wide, what is the logic people?
Any opportunity to do export of such calves , kindly reply
They are so cute
no
@@walterthebullterrier9633 your not cute
So true
Nice
nice job
Very nice
Poor calves ! Veal farming SUCKS!!
@@Lololo99200 : You only have the right to judge other people's right to judge, if you are them.
im not against eating veal but can they at least be raised better?
the better they are raised they better the meat will be
Vealers usually are raised quite fine. The video shows that.
DairyCarrie has a good article on her visit to some veal farms on her website if you want to see some other farms. You’d find it by searching “DairyCarrie veal” probably 👍
@@CalvesFanatic : On grass or at least on bedding, and with room to run and jump, would be a fine way to raise calves. With their mothers, and at least having their mothers' milk by daytime, would be an even better way.
@@pvtbuddie i haven’t watched this video in ages so don’t remember what’s up here exactly, but often the slatted pens will have mats on top to make them soft/comfortable. They can be perfectly happy without their mothers - often, cows are quite bad at mothering, especially common dairy breeds
@@CalvesFanatic : Cows in common dairy breeds often haven't been mothered or seen any mothering, and most dairy farms have offered no survival difference, including no selective breeding difference, for good mothers, for close to a hundred years. And, no, these floors didn't have any bedding.
This is an improvement over crating, but a finer way of raising them would be on a milk sharing plan on pasture. You wouldn't get white veal, perhaps unless you butchered quite early, but it would be milk fed, which, according to the chefs in several videos I just watched, is quite tasty itself.
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Great video Andrew!
dad gum! that's a lot of cows! dad gum that a lot of calves!
Nice video. Super clean facility. Very clean, properly managed well fed cattle. With those rations thats gotta be some very good tasting veal. I would have thought veal calves go to slaughter below 700 pounds. Making me hungry... Got food?? Thank a farmer......... PETA sucks
Don’t try and pretend their is anything natural or ok about this
Why pretend when it's a fact that it is natural.
Cruel and unnatural:these babies Never experience a feeling of fresh green grass ,roaming etc...Very 😢
#cowsave
Ok
This is good amount of space. In my country veal is very popular.
I never understood why veal is bad, but lamb isn't.
bel pet Because even in the least restrictive form of veal farms like this, veal is by definition calves that are purposely deprived of exercise to make their meat fattier and more tender. The corn they eat, even with the straw for fiber, provide 0 nutrients and cause diabetes and an incompetent digestive track. The cows are calm, but the farm still isn’t humane, because veal itself isn’t humane.
Also, lambs are almost full sized when slaughtered, veal calves are about half of adult size
@@nazaracanreapit You have been watching propaganda.
@@nazaracanreapit : This is not the least restrictive. I just watched a video about calves pastured in thick grass and raised on that and surplus milk. Calves can also be raised with their mothers, but separated overnight after the first month or so, as part of a system called "milk sharing".
@@nazaracanreapit veal, by definition, is from cattle under a year old. There is no specific requirements past that. Those calves seem healthy, so I don’t think their diet was missing anything. Veal from calves raised by cows outdoors *is* a product
anyone who supports the diary industry by drinking milk, eating cheese, butter or any other dairy products has no business criticizing the veal industry.
Exactly, it's like what I say about vegetarians, they don't have a right to tell meat eaters to not eat meat when hens and cows are abused in some farms, I'm a meat eater and i buy from local farms
No need to criticise alot of it.
But they would have room for it, anyway.
Different countries have different welfare standards, so while a certain country may have fine veal farms another one might have more bad ones. A person may have issues with veal crates used in certain places (for the milk fed veal), they happen to be banned in the EU and some other areas. Not to mention the individual schemes that ban them (even if not banned on a country-wide level) and farms that don’t use them. In alot of countries (US, Ireland, UK, etc), the vast majority of bull calves go for beef production instead of veal.
Drinking milk is not inhumane provided cows are not treated inhumanely
I criticise myself not the industry.
I love animals but eat them. Sometimes even animals that have been treated horribly.
Makes me a bit of a hypocrit and possibly the worst kind of meat eater. To understand the implications of what i do and do it anyway.
Your killing babies....that isn't right for me.
The job of a predator is to eat prey. They are our prey.
XTheCrystalBeastGuyX every single animal in the wild has its own life before being killed, these cows don’t. They’re literally raised to be eaten and pretty much tortured.
Leonor Mergulhão oh well. They're food and would fare worst in the wild. And besides: they're tasty as fvck!
I agree besides it's not like they are suffering they look pretty content
In some countries for food raised cats and dogs farms . No different.
Isn't funny?
All people saying OH!!!!! they're killing babies....
Please stop.
Animals are animals not humans... Animals for food. OK.
What about chickens ?
From egg to mouth in less than 2 months
OH!!!!!! my god you're eating babies...
Once more, please STOP your BS
@nella bella 😂😂throwin the race card i see. Well lucky for the cows they dont have complex emotions so they dont really care when they're abour to die.
@@owenjackson4751 Cows indeed know when they are about to die, or when they have lost loved ones. I am pro cow farming and meat consumption, but don't gloss over the dark parts of it. I hate hypocrites.
WTF would we do with them if we didn't eat em ? This iz not enough for all these fast food restaurants, what iz mystery meat 🤔
awkward...
Nature is far and away more brutal. Go watch a nature video on hyenas, African Wild Dogs, Orcas or crocodiles if you doubt me. These calves are raised in humane, if a bit sheltered, existence in clean conditions with plenty of food and water. In normal circumstances, a male calf born on a dairy farm would be killed immediately whilst a cow too old to give milk would be turned into sausage or pet food. As long as people eat meat, the mindset should be to remember that it was once a living animal and to not waste food.....
Darth Belal the difference the farming doesn’t allow them a normal life. They don’t eat “food”, they eat corn they can’t digest to make them fat enough to sell because that’s literally the only thing they can do outside of standing and walking within their few feet of crowded space. They are not raised humane.
That's like saying you would be happy in prison 24hr lockdown in a 6x8 ft cell
Because food and water is provided and you never have to do anything
that is absolutely the most moronic comment ever. people always call us who hunt cruel... but we have to work to find our animals. and they are free and wild. these animals in the meat industry are raised from birth to death in prison. you are such a tool
Nature is nature. When people are in charge, it’s no longer natural. For instance, if a dog lived in the wild, then whatever happens happens. When you adopt a dog, you’re responsible for their safety, health, and livelihood.
Horrible and cruel. Shame on you all. Disgusting on every level