The Tudors (2007-2010): Jane Seymour gives birth to a son for Henry, but dies days later

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  • Jane Seymour (Annabelle Wallis) suffers an agonizing labor before ultimately dying from her ordeal.
    What is shown onscreen? Labor and birth in a royal setting during the Tudor Age. Blood is shown.
    Season 3 Episode 6
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  • @dreamsteddybearsmaster
    @dreamsteddybearsmaster ปีที่แล้ว +588

    It's very touching how Princess Mary is there for the birth of her younger brother and also supports her Stepmother. It's also endearing how the late Queen Jane Seymour respected the late Queen Catherine of Aragon.

  • @idontgiveafaboutyou
    @idontgiveafaboutyou ปีที่แล้ว +903

    I’m sure the real Jane was extremely nervous and scared about giving birth to a daughter considering how Henry treated his first two wives for doing so. The mental stress must’ve also caused her to decline.

    • @LaKellita
      @LaKellita ปีที่แล้ว +54

      She didn't decline until after the birth, when she had absolutely no reason to be stressed. She would no doubt be frightened of the different time she was having. I mean she was in labor for more than 2 days, and it could have resulted in a daughter. But once she had a son, she had every reason to be stress free until the day of the christening, when she started feeling sick

    • @MsAlizel
      @MsAlizel ปีที่แล้ว +68

      She died of septic shock which was common after birth at that period because doctors didnt wash their hands

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@MsAlizelNor did midwives

    • @paigeandmiamagicbeautygirl2988
      @paigeandmiamagicbeautygirl2988 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LaKellita there was also fear that the baby would die soon after

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1284

    Mary was genuinely happy for the birth of Edward for a couple of reasons. First, she knew that Jane was a devout Catholic, and she was hoping that the Queen would instill that devotion into her son. However, Jane died shortly after, and Edward was basically raised by hard core Protestants who even thought the Anglicans were too "Catholic" in their ways. Second, she was hoping that the birth of a prince now freed her up to get married, preferably to a prince or king of a Catholic nation. The Catholics still regarded her as a legitimate child. However, Henry insisted on keeping close watch over her, and in his twisted mind, she was illegitimate, and therefore not marriageable.

    • @IBeMelissa
      @IBeMelissa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@vstdelzo1262 No wonder Mary went insane later on because of everything she went through due to her own father.

    • @nicolina1026
      @nicolina1026 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​​@@vstdelzo1262 And in his mind a way of protecting himself against foreign and domestic Catholics who wanted to see their faith restored in England and ousting him from the throne. If she married another Catholic this could be quite possible. Keeping her at home and unmarried "protected" his and Edward's rule. As a Princess of the Blood on both sides he saw her as an excellent bargaining chip, legitimate or not. She was a rallying point for many unhappy citizens and aristocracy alike.

    • @nicolina1026
      @nicolina1026 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a Princess of the Blood on both sides he saw her as an excellent bargaining chip, legitimate or not.

    • @teokimching4115
      @teokimching4115 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@kinkyscartoonsperhaps she can see her mother, Catherine of Aragon and the souls of those she loved with Elizabeth 1 in the heavens clouds. I really don't know but I hope she is in a much better place now.

    • @theelitemanticore151
      @theelitemanticore151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And thirdly, she won’t anymore be the only illegitimate child because Elizabeth became illegitimate after Anne Boleyn’s execution.

  • @creativelobster
    @creativelobster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1137

    If only Henry knew then that a baby’s sex is dependent on the father, not the mother 😬 thank God we’ve come a long way

    • @felliantywidjaja6501
      @felliantywidjaja6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I don't like when Jane screams.

    • @nenisguevaragomez8122
      @nenisguevaragomez8122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yes but too sad for millions of women thorough the years!! And for most of Henry's wives.

    • @crackshipsarelife
      @crackshipsarelife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@crazyand2099 emh… he was the one that blamed the Women he had married as if They had control over it or they were the one to blame. When it’s the men so him that made the difference for the gender lol

    • @crackshipsarelife
      @crackshipsarelife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crazyand2099 It seems you didnt get the Point nor know about how it works (The x & y of genetic) lol
      Henry was a awful person and the fact that you excuse him it’s so pathetic. He blamed his wives & killed them cause They didnt give him a son when it’s on men’s that the gender depends (ofc not as deciding to But as sperma, it’s Science)
      Go cry

    • @Elly3981
      @Elly3981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@crackshipsarelife even if everyone knew that the sperm determines the sex of the child, Henry would still blame his wives for not having a son.

  • @John-xr9ry
    @John-xr9ry ปีที่แล้ว +977

    Horrifying fact: Poor Jane’s labour lasted 3 nights!

    • @maria2k5
      @maria2k5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      how painful it must have been for her, specially considering the fact that her son was in the breech position..... ouch

    • @IsabellaL9659
      @IsabellaL9659 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@maria2k5 i know. I knew it was long but I did not know it was three nights. I feel so bad for her and all the women who had long or difficult labors back then. 3 nights with excruciating pain and on top of that, having to push and actually physically work to get the baby out, and with no pain medication. Poor thing.

    • @hannahsmiraculoustextingstorys
      @hannahsmiraculoustextingstorys ปีที่แล้ว +51

      If only they had modern medicine she could have survived.

    • @momochanjones7302
      @momochanjones7302 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Oh F*** that! I was in labor for 24 hours with my son WITH modern medicine. Never again.

    • @ZomBabeZoe
      @ZomBabeZoe ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My daughter was a long labour(went into labour on friday night,born Monday lunchtime),I was only given pain relief in the last few hours.

  • @xxwhispersxx2856
    @xxwhispersxx2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +525

    I was shouting "WASH YOUR HANDS!" at the "doctor" with the scalpel.

    • @RUALPZ710V2
      @RUALPZ710V2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I would have said: CLEAN THE SCALPEL!! CAZ BACTERIA COULD BE THERE!!!

    • @Goodiesfanful
      @Goodiesfanful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Sadly, the need for hygiene was not understood at the time. Many women died in childbirth because of it, making childbirth a dangerous thing in Tudor times.

    • @cottoncandykawaii2673
      @cottoncandykawaii2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      just think, it wouldn't be until the late 1800's that people even knew about bacteria

    • @patriziavalentini4055
      @patriziavalentini4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Disinfettare il bisturi ..Ci credo febbre puerperale ..dio mio

    • @TaylorThings13_Fanpage
      @TaylorThings13_Fanpage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      No wonder she died. R. I. P. Jane Seymour

  • @bikinibabes666
    @bikinibabes666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +820

    I so like Jane, she was so kind to Henry's elder daughter.

    • @vstdelzo1262
      @vstdelzo1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      with her stepdaughter elizabeth not so much just a little for being the daughter of anne boleyn (protestant) since in life they did not get along very well and jane supported catherine of aragon and mary (catholic), although there was a small concern for welfare and education of elizabeth equally with mary

    • @vstdelzo1262
      @vstdelzo1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Catherine Parr was more egalitarian and equitable with her 3 stepchildren

    • @felliantywidjaja6501
      @felliantywidjaja6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Mary treated Jane like she was her own mother.

    • @felliantywidjaja6501
      @felliantywidjaja6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When I gave birth to my children, there was no complication. So that's why I'm still living now. Women usually just died after they gave birth usually the cause of complication. Delzo, I think now my daughter is kind of scared she became a mother. She could probably afraid of giving birth cause she is afraid of dying when she gives birth to a baby with a complication. But in the name of Jesus, let's just hope my daughter won't die in childbirth in a few years. I think so, right?

    • @felliantywidjaja6501
      @felliantywidjaja6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@vstdelzo1262, I think the reality of childbirth in the 1500's is kinda scary cause at that time, women gives birth at home. But today, they gave birth in hospitals. I'm one of them.

  • @cassie-bv9sn
    @cassie-bv9sn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +864

    its crazy to think the whole history of England could have gone totally differently if that Doctor had cleaned the scalpel and washed his hands.

    • @theshillneckedlizard8364
      @theshillneckedlizard8364 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      The baby was not delivered by caesarean and no scalpel was ever used.

    • @aegonthedragon7303
      @aegonthedragon7303 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Cesareans were only done rarely and would kill the mother. Jane Seymour had a natural birth but died on childbirth fever (also killed Catherine Parr).

    • @LaKellita
      @LaKellita ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure that there even was a doctor. Men were generally not allowed in the birthing room, or even in the confinement chambers until the woman was churched. I don't think anyone really knows for sure if there was a doctor. Then again, it's also been speculated that Jane Seymour died from poison and not from anything related to childbirth.

    • @Moonwatery
      @Moonwatery ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah childbirth fever is very common with and without c-sections. I had one with my second child and it was awful. There is really no known cause. Probably higene did have something to do with it. I don't think it was the scalpel it was more the hands used to intervene . They should have had Chinese medicine back then. Antiseptics where life savers. Poor Jane. It's such a delirious state 😢

    • @yeyosilver7067
      @yeyosilver7067 ปีที่แล้ว

      You really aren't very bright are you?? Your assumption was totally wrong

  • @ncr4007
    @ncr4007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    Henry only loved Jane the most because she was the one wife to give him a son. I did like how she brought the children together and to court to see their Father the king.

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She was the only one he truly loved

    • @purple_rxin
      @purple_rxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ju2545 rude

    • @purple_rxin
      @purple_rxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      She also didn't piss him off

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@purple_rxin but it’s true cuz she the only one who gave him a living son so of course she was his favorite wife and it’s not my fault she’s the only one he truly loved

    • @purple_rxin
      @purple_rxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ju2545 lol I was continuing the lyrics but yeah unfortunately it is 😅

  • @kayym.5203
    @kayym.5203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Just realized Mary’s line about her mother. Perhaps Catherine was in the birthing chamber to protect Jane at least long enough to give Henry what he wanted so she wouldn’t suffer a similar fate as she did.

    • @LauraW102
      @LauraW102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      And It was Anne's revenge that made Elizabeth a better ruler then all of them

    • @goingonhere9893
      @goingonhere9893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      God makes no mistakes. Mary means 'bitter', while Elisabeth means 'God is my oath'. Elisabeth was destined to head England into an age of renewed and purified faith, more according to the Word of God than doctrines of men. Vatican means 'divining serpent' btw. No wonder the 'Invincible' armada was destroyed and Elisabeth was blessed to lay foundations to the British empire, designed to spread the Word of God to all nations. Please see Jonathan Kleck You Are Exiles - the original, precisely translated hebrew Scriptures will blow your mind.

    • @Jane155-x6d
      @Jane155-x6d ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@goingonhere9893 Where did you get those definitions, by the way? Because the ''Mary means bitterness'' is a pretty unsupported theory. Most people agree it comes from an egyptian word that meant ''loved'' or something to that accord. As for Vatican, it comes from the ancient name of the place during etruscan ocupation: Vatica (the romans would later call it Vaticanus). Unfortunately for us, etruscan language still leaves too much to be studied for anyone to make conclusions like ''its means serpent! Trust me bro!''
      God may not make mistakes, but you sure are making quite a lot of them.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@goingonhere9893 You on crack? Mary is the English version of the Virgin Mary and a very popular Catholic name.

    • @zay4401
      @zay4401 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@LauraW102 yep

  • @corbinshepheard8395
    @corbinshepheard8395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +656

    Man giving birth in those days was a death sentence

    • @sekichdawn3913
      @sekichdawn3913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      It sure was,a lot of the time women would draft their wills when they realized they were with child.💔

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It still is

    • @sekichdawn3913
      @sekichdawn3913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@iAmMadeOfSoupYes and no. In third world countries with less available medical care. Here in the states it's significantly less.

    • @Jennawxyz221
      @Jennawxyz221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Medieval women were not healthy. They drank wine all day and put lead on their face. Many were corseted as young children deforming the development of the pelvic and then people didn't understand germ theory

    • @Kiwi-gn8tf
      @Kiwi-gn8tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@sekichdawn3913 not as many deaths no but many still come very close and end up with trauma

  • @ju2545
    @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    In the musical Six, Jane Seymour says, “It’s good that he was an Edward and not an Edwina.” Lol 😂

    • @laperkin
      @laperkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When did she say that?? I love that musical but never heard her say that

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@laperkin she said that somewhere around when it was her turn to sing but she didn’t sing it she just said it

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmaoo😂

    • @saturn6563
      @saturn6563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@laperkin It’s in the live show in between the songs where the queens are talking to each other, so you may have missed it

    • @repentbeetch
      @repentbeetch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMAOOO

  • @purple_rxin
    @purple_rxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    I feel awful for her. Edward was in the breach position of natural birth where he would come out feet first and that is very difficult to deliver. This I can imagine was painful especially no pain medication was around

    • @Seek1878
      @Seek1878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      In reality there's no record of a breech birth or c section. She died of fever a few days after the birth.

    • @viviansmith5060
      @viviansmith5060 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breech is buttocks first.

  • @DENAANN1000
    @DENAANN1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    How that poor woman suffered, three days of torture in a time when medical assistance barely
    existed. If she has lived she would have looked five years older after those three days.

  • @Julieta-bh1di
    @Julieta-bh1di 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i think it is really sweet how princess mary helps her stepmother give birth to her half/step brother,i ususally never liked jane,but seeing her being respectful to the late Catherine of aragon,is touching

  • @supagepagechannel9139
    @supagepagechannel9139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    These Kings who wanted their Queens to give birth after birth to sons. Did they not know what women went through giving birth in those days???

    • @Jennawxyz221
      @Jennawxyz221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Men were often not allowed in the birthing room and had rudimentary understanding of women's bodies. That or they didn't care.

    • @Kiwi-gn8tf
      @Kiwi-gn8tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      They didn’t care

    • @supersaiandemon
      @supersaiandemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They didn't care. Even the doctors saw it as punishment for Eve's deception for what she did in the garden. I shit you not.

    • @ddthewolf
      @ddthewolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      In there eyes that was the only job for them to do

    • @Jane155-x6d
      @Jane155-x6d ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If there's something history is full of, is kings and husbands who mourned for decades, never married again or only did so under pressure. It was seen a something obligatory (the human race has to go on somehow) but of course people were afraid. Of losing their mothers, sisters, friends or spouses. Of course there were those who couldn't care one bit, but people in these comment sections sometimes act as if empathy and bonds were only invented in the sixties or something.

  • @shaniadirstein3650
    @shaniadirstein3650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    Poor Jane Seymour... if only the medical world was like it was today she might have survived

    • @tsarina24honolulu87
      @tsarina24honolulu87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Women still die today in childbirth.

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@tsarina24honolulu87 but now it’s really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really rare

    • @Kiwi-gn8tf
      @Kiwi-gn8tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@ju2545 not as rare as you may think. Many also still come close

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Kiwi-gn8tf at least now we have medicine and back then they didn’t really have much

    • @Kiwi-gn8tf
      @Kiwi-gn8tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ju2545 yes true but many women still do die or come close and have trauma

  • @rachelmarie2266
    @rachelmarie2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    When she asked for the box and there was a rosary I cried. I asked for my rosary when I was in labor with my daughter. I was so scared but I knew I had Jesus!

    • @templemount4094
      @templemount4094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Worship noone but Jesus himself. Vatican means the Divining Serpent, basilica comes from greek basileos - abode of the basilisk. Mixing the mother goddess - Mary - and dead saint worship with the only one who deserves worship - the Almighty who came down for us as Christ.
      Hebrew name lines from Adam to Noah:
      Adam - man
      Seth - appointed
      Enosh - mortal
      Kenan - sorrow.
      Mahalalel - the blessed God
      Jared - shall come down
      Enoch - teaching.
      Methusaleh - his death shall bring
      Lamech - the despaired
      Noah - hope, comfort.

    • @theautisticcatholic
      @theautisticcatholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@templemount4094 Please stop. Catholics do not worship Mary or the Saints. We do not view or treat her as a goddess. We honor and respect her because God honored and respected her first. Likewise, we honor and respect the saints because they're role models for us. We ask them to pray for us. The Rosary is a series of prayers in which we reflect on the lives of Jesus and Mary. Also, you're wrong about what basileos means. Basilica is derived from the Ancient Greek phrase "(stoa) basilike," which translates to "royal portal." That's completely innocuous. Here's what the Online Eytomolgy Dictionary says about basileios, basilica, and basilisk: "In Latin, confused with basiliscus (see basilisk) because it was supposed to be an antidote to the basilisk's venom."

    • @theshillneckedlizard8364
      @theshillneckedlizard8364 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@templemount4094 WTF? Are you off your meds again?

    • @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752
      @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@templemount4094 give it rest bigot

    • @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752
      @thepapistyourmotherwarnedy752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen sis!

  • @enjoyingmyvodka1013
    @enjoyingmyvodka1013 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Jane wanted Henry to love all his children. Mary loved her and her fathers fourth wife. They were kind to her.

    • @marty0346
      @marty0346 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂😂No

  • @circeofaeaea9968
    @circeofaeaea9968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I see one big inaccuracy, men would not be allowed in there when a woman gives birth. It is apart of a sacred tradition back then.

    • @blaykeb9348
      @blaykeb9348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      the men seem to be doctors.... noting the scene with the cutting stuff

    • @rraebaker5103
      @rraebaker5103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      An additional inaccuracy is Mary wouldn’t have been there either. As an unwed woman, she could not be in room either.

    • @napiim123
      @napiim123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rraebaker5103 really?

    • @NiVi192
      @NiVi192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually no, not at court when the queen was giving birth, yet alone having complications.

    • @LaKellita
      @LaKellita 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@blaykeb9348 doctors were generally forbidden, though it is said that some were allowed when the labor started going wrong

  • @Goodiesfanful
    @Goodiesfanful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    A modern midwife has surmised Jane’s protracted labour was because the baby was not well positioned.

    • @Jennawxyz221
      @Jennawxyz221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      and Jane herself at least in the movie was not in a good position for birth.

    • @MaryTheresa1986
      @MaryTheresa1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jennawxyz221 Exactly. Squatting or being on all fours would've expanded her cervix and most likely would've led to an easier birth.

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Jennawxyz221 The best position is whatever the woman finds comfortable. Being upright doesn't always help
      Jane had a long labour and expecting her to be upright all the time would have just tired her out.
      In reality she would have been on a birth stool/ chair at the end .

    • @Seek1878
      @Seek1878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In reality there is no record of a c section and "modern midwife" doesn't stand for much.

    • @ioana31527
      @ioana31527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Seek1878 Pretty sure they attempted an episiotomy. If they would have attempted a c section, Jane would have died a few hours later(at best) from blood loss. Instead, she managed to survive almost 2 weeks.

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    It is doubtful that Henry ordered an emergency cesarean to be performed on Jane, especially since that procedure was all but unknown at that point. There is the perception that he ordered the doctor to go ahead and deliver the baby without any regard for Jane's life, but that is likely to be untrue.

    • @helene4397
      @helene4397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She lived 12 days after Edward was born.

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      A modern Midwife thinks she died due to a bit of placenta being left behind and because the court midwives where less expericed than the avreage village Midwife hey didn't know what they were looking for .
      The village Midwife would be more willing to use herbs and so on giving Jane a better chance . Due to religious reasons the court midwives would have been reluctant to do so and probably did not know how .

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Henry was more careful with Katherine of Aragorn and Anne Boyeln and put their health first. Both ladies where well educated and probably had a say over who attended them in labour from the midwives to their Physicans . The Queens Physicans did have some knowledge of the female atomy
      On the other hand Jane wasn't as well educated so would have gone on with what ever she was given . Henry was also loosing it at this point .

    • @ju2545
      @ju2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@helene4397 Little did she know that Edward would die at 15 :(

    • @Seek1878
      @Seek1878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannahdyson7129 "a modern midwife"
      Real specific. Herbs aren't magic. And a lot of midwives today lack formal training.

  • @pamelaturnbull4344
    @pamelaturnbull4344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The 'costume' in this series is ABSOLUTELY APPALLING.

    • @xxwhispersxx2856
      @xxwhispersxx2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      How so? Because they're inaccurate? Who cares? They are still beautiful. If you want accurate costuming, then watch Wolf Hall. Or the Becoming Elizabeth series that is out (even tho the historical events are altered, the costuming is on point).

    • @nolagirl2458
      @nolagirl2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I love it!! The jewerly is beautiful too

    • @bibidanaher2355
      @bibidanaher2355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean, they are usually very inaccurate, but they are gorgeous.

    • @sakuraflower7245
      @sakuraflower7245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People would be less inclined to watch a series with the boring, matronly, and drab costumes that are historically-accurate.

  • @melieflynn-hayes7996
    @melieflynn-hayes7996 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At least she was kind and understanding to Henry Mary and her lady in waiting.

  • @iamjustsaying4787
    @iamjustsaying4787 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Henry had a healthy son with Katherine, but they moved to another castle and left the boy in the care of others and he died in infancy.

    • @helene4397
      @helene4397 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      In those times, Royal Babies did not live together with their parents.

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@helene4397Some did, actually . Depending on the country

  • @Newsbro89
    @Newsbro89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The inaccurate part of this scene is the fact that no women, except Mary were allowed in the birthing chamber. Jane was the first royal to be waited upon by male physicians during child birth. Which ultimately led to her demise. Because male physicians had very little experience back then with what happens during child birth, they didn’t know to remove the after birth once the baby was born, causing Jane to die of sepsis days later. If a midwife was present, she would have known that the afterbirth needed to be removed, which in turn would have resulted in Jane living. Imagine if that one simple change would have resulted in history changing?

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Queens physcains had experice in women's health and difficult births. Court midwives where inexperienced compared to village midwives. They wouldn't have had much experice with retained placenta and unlike village midwives where unable to use herbs thanks to accusations of witchcraft .
      Anne and Katherine of Aragorn where highly educated women who had more say in those who attended them in pregancy and Labour.
      Isabelle of Castile for example had her male physcain at almost all of her labours as did her daughter Joan when she had her babies
      The physcains where very hands of with Jane . Midwives where often extremely uneducated

    • @RTG1031
      @RTG1031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would change that the boy was a sickly child

  • @tudoredits.scenepacks
    @tudoredits.scenepacks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Imagine worrying if youd give birth to a boy or girl.
    I feel bad for anne still bc she had to say srry for giving birth to a daughter!

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Her brother ain’t shit. He didn’t even ask how she was or if she was alive after he heard Edward crying.

  • @sakuraflower7245
    @sakuraflower7245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Giving birth is tough now, but back in the day it was very dangerous. The mother could easily lose her life to childbirth.

  • @garlantyrell6368
    @garlantyrell6368 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I really liked Queen Jane overall because she was so kind, compassionate, empathic, and a way better person than Queen Anne Boleyn was. I felt really bad for her when she died of childbirth and I wish she was around to see her son Prince Edward grow up.

    • @LauraW102
      @LauraW102 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's Karma for planning her wedding Before Anne's trial.

    • @strawberry12393
      @strawberry12393 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@LauraW102 Its not jane seymour fault for marrying Henry Viii

    • @xxmnshadexx9342
      @xxmnshadexx9342 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually, It's none of the queens fault.

    • @wopinglau8689
      @wopinglau8689 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@LauraW102 Anne lost Henry the same way she won him. She was mistress to Henry when he was married to Katherine of Aragon. Plus, its not like Jane Seymour had a choice as to whether she could reject Henry VIII

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She wasn't empathetic towards Elizabeth.

  • @pomegranteappleson1628
    @pomegranteappleson1628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How do you make these video/clips. Is there a website or something. Do you download the episode then cut out the clips you want to post? I want to do the same for this show and many other but dont know how.💚

  • @tiareikimotu4900
    @tiareikimotu4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    3:22 The baby is born

  • @kkandsims4612
    @kkandsims4612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    If only Jane had lived msry and Elisabeth would be so much happier .

    • @LauraW102
      @LauraW102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Jane Did not like Elizabeth and I'm sure Elizabeth blamed Jane for her mother's execution.

    • @strawberry12393
      @strawberry12393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LauraW102 Jane didnt hate Elizabeth she brought the family together

    • @marty0346
      @marty0346 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@strawberry12393jane hated elizabeth

    • @AB-om2te
      @AB-om2te 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@strawberry12393Actually that has been disproven. There’s only few occasions she paid attention to the Lady Elizabeth but not to the extent of Lady Mary because she had liked Catherine of Aragon more than Anne Boleyn.

    • @AB-om2te
      @AB-om2te 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@strawberry12393the one who brought the family together was Catherine Parr

  • @courtneysheffield2950
    @courtneysheffield2950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Happy Birthday King Edward Seymour-Tudor 👶🏼👦🏼👑 🤴🏼 although short life throughout he lived his birth and life he was a joyful baby boy 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🥧🥧🥧🥧🥧🥧🥧🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍰🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🍧🥮🥮🥮🥮🥮🥮🥮🍡🍡🍡🍡🍡🍡🍡🍡🍮🍮🍮🍮🍮🍮🍮🤱🏼👶🏼👦🏼👑 👸🏼 Virgin Mary sweet Henry but I really wish he showed that love to Mary and Elizabeth and respect for Bessie Blount wow I really hope he is in heaven with Jane and everyone and Anne was innocent she hadn't commit adultery with her brother George and one of the accused lovers was gay he liked men not women as quiet as it was kept in those years in the 16th century 100%

    • @britishkanao6685
      @britishkanao6685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep

    • @crisvazquez2327
      @crisvazquez2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol Jane & Anne aren’t in heaven they took someone’s husband that’s a sin

    • @amandac9894
      @amandac9894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@crisvazquez2327 the real sinner is Henry VIII who couldn’t keep promises to his wife and cheated on everyone and killed countless of others. Jane and Anne did nothing wrong and were victims of his tyranny and lust.

    • @crisvazquez2327
      @crisvazquez2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amandac9894 I never said Henry was a saint cause he wasn’t & that doesn’t matter Anne & Jane are just as bad as him

    • @lenakosmo5217
      @lenakosmo5217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crisvazquez2327 he left youfor another, huh?

  • @mitsukai7192
    @mitsukai7192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    What was the official cause of death for Jane? What complication caused her to die days after the birth?

    • @oliviamann556
      @oliviamann556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Well possibly infection considering the quality of hygiene in those days

    • @purple_rxin
      @purple_rxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It was common back then that women after giving birth died of childbed fever. Think that's was Jane died of same with Henry's mother

    • @theshillneckedlizard8364
      @theshillneckedlizard8364 ปีที่แล้ว

      Puerperal fever, otherwise known as "childbed fever." Infection of the womb after childbirth.

    • @shainadearies
      @shainadearies ปีที่แล้ว +36

      She died of childbirth fever. The cause of thit is now known to be mostly a bad hygiene during labor bc it is caused by bacterias. Her labor lasted three days bc her baby was missplaced and in addition to that the hygiene was terrible.
      It was very common for women at the time to die like that. The mother gets an infection and die due to sepsis. Henry's sixth wife, Catherine Parr also died bc of that

    • @hcklberypinkbrownies5170
      @hcklberypinkbrownies5170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lack of clotting and infection. Probably Sepsis.

  • @defintitlynotAhsoka
    @defintitlynotAhsoka ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lady Mary is absolutely gorgeous.

  • @annakalpakidou2223
    @annakalpakidou2223 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After all the efforts to have a son, fate chose Elizabeth to rule England 🥰

  • @cristinadiaz8254
    @cristinadiaz8254 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just learned that Mary was Aurora in OUAT

  • @joshuaba
    @joshuaba ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The birth took 3 days because the baby was in the breech position which the feet could come out first

  • @xxMary89xx
    @xxMary89xx ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think Edward Seymour is more worried than the king,

  • @JenniferPatrick-tc3lp
    @JenniferPatrick-tc3lp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My heart goes out to Jane she was so kind

  • @user-mh7uu9bf6d
    @user-mh7uu9bf6d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Then Henry married to Anne of cleves then deviocred her, then had Catherine Howard and parr, both beheaded and survived.

  • @Idontknowu519
    @Idontknowu519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That must have been a lot of pain

  • @laofamily1481
    @laofamily1481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think mart is kind she takes care of her sibling not until hate gotten her

  • @_CyV_
    @_CyV_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    henry: i need my queen
    god: fuck you, this is your 3rd wife

  • @rhodiusscrolls3080
    @rhodiusscrolls3080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Did I hear correctly that some film star was distantly related to Jane Seymour mother to Edward VI ? I dont mean the lady with the same name from Doctor Quinn.

  • @jennifercoralde886
    @jennifercoralde886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heard from other history King Henry the insane King performed Caesarian section, Jane Seymor suffered septic shock, lost of blood

  • @eurodutchess26
    @eurodutchess26 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is it me or did anyone notice that one of the ladies in waiting looks just like Anne Boleyn at 1:32 😮

    • @Cheesaloaf
      @Cheesaloaf ปีที่แล้ว

      No it was in 1:09 i saw it

  • @stupid_one537
    @stupid_one537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Wait what is the thing the doctor had
    And what did he use it for

    • @amalierose944
      @amalierose944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s scalpels and I think he performed a C-section

    • @been6122
      @been6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol really.....

    • @harleyq1241
      @harleyq1241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      i don't think it was a c section i think the doctor did an episiotomy

    • @Danielle-wy3bn
      @Danielle-wy3bn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Basically the baby was in the wrong position so back then they would use a scalpel and cut it so the hole was bigger and they could more so pull the baby out. It's believed this led to infection witch killed her.

    • @izievalo6319
      @izievalo6319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@amalierose944 sadly not..he could not have those days. If a c section was performed today she would have been perfectly fine. Baby was in the wrong position so he probably cut her further :(( and caused an infection as mentioned in one of the comments below.

  • @Rikudarling
    @Rikudarling ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The fact that It took jane seymour 2 long days and three nights to give birth is confusing

    • @santiagosandmariobros.rule3482
      @santiagosandmariobros.rule3482 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, because the baby is born with a breech position

    • @Ocyla
      @Ocyla ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if they could have done what they do with cows and sheep. Reach up in there and twist the baby to the right position.

    • @Rikudarling
      @Rikudarling ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh-

    • @Rat_Queen86
      @Rat_Queen86 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not really
      If she was failing to progress and he was in breach position, then she’s lucky that she and he didn’t die

  • @celestebeck4419
    @celestebeck4419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    King’s favorite jane

  • @ravenbaa7989
    @ravenbaa7989 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ouch back then

  • @ameliaflynnhayes
    @ameliaflynnhayes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She was good to Mary and to one of her ladies who was her husbands mistress.

  • @mrsoakley100
    @mrsoakley100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don’t get it

  • @brisasaldivia8169
    @brisasaldivia8169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A mi me gustaba Jane mi reina favorita😘no merecia morir y a pesar de que el rey la consideraba fea tambien me gustaba Anna me parecia muy bonita.

    • @marty0346
      @marty0346 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most disgusting, false queen jane seymour

  • @camomile9483
    @camomile9483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Около 18.00 отошла пробка.
    19.30 стали отходить воды
    (вышло достаточно много воды) - это были не «подтекания». Марина сказала: «Ну что, поздравляю, будем рожать!»
    Перед этим мы делали ребефинг (серьезная дыхательная психотехника). Возможно она спровоцировала роды… Оказалось потом, что не только у меня одной такое было.
    Все, о чем я ниже пишу - делала только по рекомендациям Марины.
    К полуночи начались схватки. Я сделала клизму.
    2.20 - схватки продолжались и усиливались, но были еще терпимы. Я долго лежала в ванной.. Началась рвота, отошли ещё воды
    Всю ночь я провела без сна и еды.
    Понедельник
    Под утро начались сильные схватки.
    8.00 - плавали в бассейне все утро (часа 2-3)
    Мучительные схватки продолжались целый день. Периодически рвало.
    Я почти ничего не ела, не было аппетита. Немного поела орехов с медом. И половину бутерброда с сыром и овощами. Еда очень плохо шла.
    Целый день провела на ногах, отдыхала только в позе кошки. Поспать не удавалось. Раскрытия шейки матки не было.
    После первой проверки Марина поставила мне диагноз сросшейся шейки матки! Я тут же погуглила и выяснила что с таким диагнозом вообще невозможны естественные роды! Я стала паниковать.. До этого при осмотрах ни один генеколог не говорил мне об этом. Муж успокаивал меня и просил не думать о плохом.
    Марина периодически проверяла и помогала пальцами шейке раскрыться. Было адски больно. После каждой проверки выходила вода окрашенная в темно розовый цвет.
    Вечером гуляли с мужем по Тао Гардену. Схватки были регулярные, сильные, болезненные. Длились примерно минуту с перерывом также в одну минуту и чуть больше.
    Ночью схватки продолжались и я вторую ночь провела без сна в муках. Лежала в ванной.
    Муж вторую ночь совсем не спал, провел рядом со мной и очень сильно поддерживал меня.
    Один раз ночью звали Марину посмотреть раскрытие. Марина слушала сердце малыша - говорила что с ним все ок.
    Вторник
    Схватки продолжались, периодически затухали совсем ненадолго. Шел третий день, но поспать не удалось ни разу. Раскрытия также не было.
    Про госпиталь наша акушерка аккуратно предупредила, что якобы традиционная медицина считает, если схватки длятся больше 24 часов нужно вмешательство. Но у нас с малышом, как она полагает, все хорошо и что все будет ок. Мы доверились ее большому опыту и профессионализму.
    Все утро мы с мужем гуляли по «Тао Гардену». Каждую схватку я висела на нем, звучала.
    Весь день очень сильные схватки. Периодически рвало. Весь день был тремор.
    Днем также продолжали гулять. Марина сказала, что нужно постоянно ходить. Я обнимала деревья.. Днём занимались любовью в терапевтических целях.
    Примерно в 16.00 Марина сказала выпить стакан холодного шампанского одним залпом - чтобы ускорить процесс…
    Обливалась с головой по ее совету холодной водой. Тремор усилился.
    К вечеру я уже начала нести всякую ерунду - не могла связать слов…
    Раскрытие началось.
    Во время всего процесса

    • @camomile9483
      @camomile9483 ปีที่แล้ว

      Во время всего процесса родов Марина не переставала учить нас жизни и критиковать, что мы не приготовили для нее покушать и не купили кофе. Она к вечеру вернулась со своего семинара и была голодная и уставшая. Зачем-то стала в нашем домике разбирать старые вещи, оставшиеся от других жильцов. Эта суета и нравоучения меня фоном раздражали, но вступать в полемику не было ни желания ни сил. У меня шел процесс! Сакральный процесс…
      Каждый раз после ее осмотра, у меня отходило какое-то количество темно-розовых вод.
      При осмотре Марина сказала что у меня тройной пузырь. По ее словам, со стороны головки он был цел, выходили воды с другой стороны… Говорит, что у меня была “программа” на тройную беременность…
      Часам к 18.00 раскрытие почти закончилось.
      Марина все это время периодически проверяла ухом сердцебиение малыша, говорила что с ним все в порядке.
      Меня начало тужить и мы начали тужиться. Мы - потому что муж мой всегда был рядом и помогал мне. Марина объяснила что нужно делать и оставила нас наедине “не мешать”. Когда показалась головка, муж позвал Марину и мы переместились в ванную. Меня вырвало во время потуг. Был сильный тремор. Далее Марина помогала тужиться. Головка вышла легко, а затем со второй потуги родился весь малыш.
      20.40 - я родила.
      Наш сын родился белым и был без дыхания

  • @redsunflower8999
    @redsunflower8999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who is Saint George?

    • @LauraW102
      @LauraW102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Patron Saint of England

  • @phatrend7642
    @phatrend7642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:14

  • @DaveGrohlsprincess
    @DaveGrohlsprincess ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m never giving birth!!! 😭

    • @hannahdyson7129
      @hannahdyson7129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one expecte you top

  • @olala-fe9rp
    @olala-fe9rp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jane was one of 9 freaking children if that knife was clean more sons huh

  • @girlzd0ntgame250
    @girlzd0ntgame250 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    NTS *When I give birth I'm doing it the same way the baby was made on my hands and knees

  • @angeligloryracho2913
    @angeligloryracho2913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    alr all of this is so sweet of mary together with jane but.. why does she treat elizabeth diffrently

  • @Gamerbeastx1177
    @Gamerbeastx1177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baby:(queen I don’t wanna come out)

  • @lolo3084
    @lolo3084 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of those ladies in waiting look like from the 18th Century

  • @deisy9372
    @deisy9372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tres días dando a luz no me imagino eso

  • @Kandyce688
    @Kandyce688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why she has a period can someone explain?

  • @LisaG442
    @LisaG442 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF have those women got on their heads 🤣 did the costumers give more than a cursory glance at historical headgear 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @bibidanaher2355
      @bibidanaher2355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      K, they are inaccurate, but u can't deny their gorgeous lol

  • @taishobakugo.6c
    @taishobakugo.6c ปีที่แล้ว

    Episode?

  • @christinesentman5437
    @christinesentman5437 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Women today die from childbirth also

  • @colettessims
    @colettessims ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that died because c-sections were so deadly back then

    • @bibidanaher2355
      @bibidanaher2355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She didn't actually have a c-section, but they were very dangerous.

    • @colettessims
      @colettessims 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bibidanaher2355 she got cut open?

    • @bibidanaher2355
      @bibidanaher2355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @colettessims Maybe in the show but most likely not irl

  • @CayQuinn
    @CayQuinn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They try to make everything so fancy all she needs to do is turn around on all fours our be properly angled and the baby would slip out

  • @VanessaBeaton-zi5nb
    @VanessaBeaton-zi5nb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prince Edward and due to childbirth

  • @thatgirlsummer7908
    @thatgirlsummer7908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grace where is tommy 😅?

  • @marciaspiegel5280
    @marciaspiegel5280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Three nites of labor. Horrible. Crappy care.

  • @racing1269
    @racing1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gt

  • @elysiarubante6369
    @elysiarubante6369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like jane but i wish anne and Henry was still together

  • @Federica-me8sv
    @Federica-me8sv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nn sarà ke kontrariamente a quando Henry 8 aveva sposato Anne boleyn tre anni xima ; la regina Katherine nn c era x xké era venuta a mancare e quindi se il popolo aveva konsiderato Anne un usurpatricw dl trono dla vera sovrana cioe Katherine e sl un amante di lusso dl re Henry! Se a lr regina kate era venuta a mancare mn non potevano x konsidetare anke Jane un usurpatrice e quindi sì ke l hanno accettata lm la dposa dl re Henry 8

  • @kvfz
    @kvfz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luck child

  • @remsour
    @remsour ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus loves you 🤍!

  • @GabrielaGARAYREYES
    @GabrielaGARAYREYES 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😢😢😢😮

  • @mayaharrison3138
    @mayaharrison3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    waaa 😥

  • @robertevers5985
    @robertevers5985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sxey Baby girl Boy you New Birth just Yes

  • @hwatson7696
    @hwatson7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    1:16