DIRT CHEAP, EBAY, AMAZON, SLOPPY LS CAM TEST...SLOPPY STAGE 1 VS STAGE 1.5 VS STAGE 2 VS STAGE 3

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  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    don't see how this channel isn't in the millions, because Richard will save u money and time on getting the engine u want. i watch listened and built a 410 LS stroker well over 500TQ and pushing 600HP, all from listening to Richard...!!!

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      congrats

    • @Born_Stellar
      @Born_Stellar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      lol, because no one works on stuff anymore. we are a dying breed, people who work on their own cars.

    • @erik120719
      @erik120719 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@Born_Stellarwe aren't dying , we are getting crippled and broken lol...I still manage to make my hands work for at least 6hrs a day in my shop, not that I NEED the hours in but more to the point of I LOVE what I do. I remember throwing trans and rear ends around by hand, not the cherry picker lifts EVERYTHING but tires for me. I've prolly put a 100 transmissions in on my back in the ground when I was younger, now it'd literally kill me. At least I got my own shop and set my own pace now. I do the jobs I WANT to now so it's a labor of love not a job for necessity anymore

    • @ls_812
      @ls_812 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I remember when I first decided to try to go work in a shop work on cars... I was talking to my dad about it cuz of course that's what he's done all his life. And I was saying how much I love working on cars and so I'd love to do it for a job. He kindly told me that doing it for a job can we'll take the enjoyment out of it. A lot of times. I no longer turn wrenches for a job but I keep my vehicles and my kids vehicles going which turns into a lot of weekends sometimes. But I love fixing things. And it's easier to fix cars than it is people

    • @erik120719
      @erik120719 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ls_812 agree 💯 but unfortunately I'm stuck in my rut of sore back and arthritis ridden hands lol

  • @scottrobertson6949
    @scottrobertson6949 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I don't think everyone truly appreciates the value Richard gives to people for free. The real cost to produce that data is significant. Consider- have a Engine Dyno, a test engine, purchase 4 x genuine Elgin cams. Spend an entire day and fuel fitting and back to back testing. It's amazing we can access the results for no cost. THANK-YOU Richard your tireless testing doesn't go unappreciated!! 😊😊 from Australia

  • @ticojason8868
    @ticojason8868 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've been waiting on this one for YEARS! I have the SS3 and I love it

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    For those asking... SS3 is 238/242 @ .050, .595" lift on both, 112 LSA.

    • @MrPhukyew
      @MrPhukyew ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm shocked that it fit, I think with the big intake valves on the rec port heads it would probably not fit.

    • @MrPhukyew
      @MrPhukyew 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to know! ​@@slicksloth_416

    • @trevorstrauss9978
      @trevorstrauss9978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@slicksloth_416 how do you like it? Do it again?

    • @Cultofpersonality09129
      @Cultofpersonality09129 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trevorstrauss9978wayy to big for a street car. I have one in 6.0.

    • @mikemichael4960
      @mikemichael4960 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cultofpersonality09129 stage 3?

  • @troy8940
    @troy8940 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am so glad that you decided to do a story on these 3 cams. I just found out that the 1.5 existed. I brought the sloppy stage 2 and purchased stage one for a milder build, And never heard the stage 3 but I think I may use the 3 in my main build instead of the 2 because it sounds way more radical but Semi tamed the car is not shaking . I'm guessing the 1.5 is for individuals whom don't want to upgrade cylinder heads but they want a little bit of boost in the kubush you know. Once again teacher you've been a great help I truly appreciate you. Thank you. I would have chimed in live with you today but I have to go eat lunch 😊

    • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
      @DodgyBrothersEngineering ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see no point to the 1.0 when the 1.5 offers virtually everything the same down low and more up top. Unless there is significant feel difference below what the dyno can measure, I'd drop it from the product line up.

  • @Go69
    @Go69 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was previously running the 1.5 but did not know that's what it was called. In my .020" over 6.0L with factory injectors, 799 heads, and gen 3 intake like Richard was running in this video, it was pretty calm.. Then I swapped to the TBSS intake, and 36 lb./hr. injectors along with the SS2, and a home ported set of 706's and it feels like it gained 100HP. It went from a truck that would barely spin the 315's from a dead stop, to a tire frying machine... Literally if I'm rolling along at 30 mph and stomp it, it will kick down to 1st (4L80E) and demolish the tires... pure smoke show... This combo that I have now is what I would call a starting point on all of my future builds. The 1.5 cam was very easy to tune, had just enough lope at idle that it was noticeable, and got decent gas mileage, but the combo in my opinion left a lot on the table. The new set up is night and day power production compared to the old. Oh, also forgot-Nick Williams 92MM throttle body with the new intake. LOTS of parts changed, but the reward was worth it. I got LEGIT Elgin cams-nothing from Sham-a-zon, or Fleece-Bay.. Those china knock off cams are GARBAGE.. several people have tested them and they rarely match the specs they are sold under, and one guy posted results showing the ground the lobes backwards.. STAY AWAY FROM CHINA CAMS and anything else that is internal engine. If you buy trash, it might destroy your engine... Not worth the risk.

    • @johnbarksdale4915
      @johnbarksdale4915 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solid info thanks

    • @diem8093
      @diem8093 ปีที่แล้ว

      what website did you get the cam from?

    • @Go69
      @Go69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@diem8093 My local machinist ordered it for me. I have no idea where he got it. It came in a legit ELGIN box, with the correct part #. Check with your local performance machine shop.. they can get the real ones.

    • @swfltechnician7562
      @swfltechnician7562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also have a 6.0 gen 4 and I would like to know would which max cam can I use with stock pistons. (Daily use RCSB)

  • @dphitch
    @dphitch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Respect the work put into these videos, this channel is a goldmine of info.

  • @patlandymore7035
    @patlandymore7035 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for orchestrating such a comprehensive test! 👍🏼👍🏼
    Awesome info from the best.

  • @Ninelinegarage
    @Ninelinegarage ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've had my eye on the 1.5 for a while now. It will go in a 6.0 LQ4 with 862/706 heads. It should make for a fun street engine in a heavy truck!

    • @OneTonTahoe
      @OneTonTahoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice! I’m doing the same with the new Sloppy Best Cam in a Jeep XJ on 37s.

    • @MrPhukyew
      @MrPhukyew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've done that exact combo it works really well and you can even run it on stock converter. With good tuning this cam will idle great at 650 and have enough vacuum for anything ya need.

    • @Ninelinegarage
      @Ninelinegarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrPhukyew Any idea what your power numbers were? I've been guessing it would make around 460/460.

    • @jeffpriest4017
      @jeffpriest4017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      im running ss2 in 2500hd 706 heads headers great truck motor. tow and play.pull 30 ft camper with lop and no converter its great

    • @MrPhukyew
      @MrPhukyew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ninelinegarage at the wheels it would probably be closer to the low 400s or high 300s depending on many other factors.

  • @BriggsGuy54
    @BriggsGuy54 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thats for the video! Would have loved to see a stock cam comparison too.

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Well damn, my converter grabs at 4k, I might as well throw the SS3 back in! Thanks Richard!!

  • @Sam-dl3js
    @Sam-dl3js 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive been an import guy my whole life and now I want to build a N/A LS V8.
    This channel has been awesome. Still dont know where to start.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      start at the junkyard with a 5.3L

    • @Sam-dl3js
      @Sam-dl3js 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richardholdener1727 sounds easy, next is finding a car to put one in. I'm super green at this with skills that Rate 2/5.
      The technical knowledge is there, the skills and experience aren't

    • @ChristianTorres-e1c
      @ChristianTorres-e1c 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Read read read​@@Sam-dl3js

  • @oldschool6268
    @oldschool6268 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have done my research over and over, I'm finally about to run a stage one in a LQ4 chevelle with mild boost with a 6 speed(3:55 gears).
    The stage 2 is to much loss for a manual low compression car, the 1.5 would be great I'm sure, but the pac 1218 springs would be close to there limit. I can't wait for this build to go down !

  • @Ed70Nova427
    @Ed70Nova427 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Richard. Great data!

  • @jordan-ramblinaround2323
    @jordan-ramblinaround2323 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have the sloppy stage 3 in two N/A (well.. nitrous) combos and i love them. Its a nasty cam with a good converter and gear. 3500 or so with 3.73s seems to throw it in the sweet spot. Now on my turbo setup i ran a sloppy stage 2. Which was perfect for 16 psi. Spooled fast with the 7875, lots of low end. Pulled like a freight train with my th400 and 3.36s

  • @krashanb5767
    @krashanb5767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1.5 looks like a winner for me. SUV used on streets and offroad.

  • @jmflournoy386
    @jmflournoy386 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We sold lots of Elgin, Wolverine, Melling and other cams ground by the big 3 "Detroit" production grinders. Their FT HYD and Mech cams are mostly obsolete however the roller cams can't be that old. I'd check the timing for ANY cam, at least check the springs and do new valve stem seals. Many hot rod cam grinders rebox these cams. The seat durations are given in SAE which is .006 at the valve or .004 with a 1.5 rocker so the durations look a little long compared to say Comp cams which gives durations at .006 at the lifter. These cams are designed to be user installed and trouble, they do not "Push" the lifter side loading, i.e.not a winner for heads up racing but great for brackets. Their FT cams may not be the latest masters but still wear well.

  • @b00st_SS
    @b00st_SS ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I run the SS3 on a 6.0 with twin vsracing 67/62’s , it’s got ALL the chop at idle!! Hot idle, cold idle, no timing, all the timing, it’s full time CHOP

    • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
      @DodgyBrothersEngineering ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Any time you get over 230 on the intake it is pretty hard to tame the idle no matter what you do. Not that you would want to, but if you did...

    • @b00st_SS
      @b00st_SS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cmovezz3192 for N/A, blower or nitrous stage 3 is great, but for turbo it’s not a good choice. Picked up summit stage 2 turbo cam I’ll be installing in the next week or two

    • @b00st_SS
      @b00st_SS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cmovezz3192 just using the pac 1219’s I have, summit said the pac 1218’s or 19’s are fine with that cam and the ones I have maybe 1000 miles on them

  • @Lagrange1186
    @Lagrange1186 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boooo we ( and when I say we it probably just means me) the best cam too! Thanks for the comparison video sir. Didn’t realize there was a 1.5

  • @RobsNeighbor
    @RobsNeighbor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is awesome data! Your edits are great!

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @jeffcraven2437
      @jeffcraven2437 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 Can you explain how advancing and retarding would change their useable powerband RPM ranges please? Thanks in advance…

  • @hondatech5000
    @hondatech5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes to chassis dyno in the background that was a nice treat 😂

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, Richard. Love your videos! Just wanted to mention the audio on this one was a bit rough. I really couldn't hear the engines idling or running, and then you're talking in between sessions was sometimes loud. Only meant as constructive feedback. I wanted to hear those cams!

    • @corceil
      @corceil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AGREED, it slightly irritated me as well

  • @johndishong5083
    @johndishong5083 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would it be possible to get some idle vacuum numbers for cam reviews. I still like my power brakes.

    • @pumpybenis3122
      @pumpybenis3122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get a vaccum pump and canister

  • @Rattle_canned_restorations
    @Rattle_canned_restorations 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive ran the 2 and 3, loved both of em will do it again.
    I bought the $80 ebay versions though 😂😂😂

    • @hayden6056
      @hayden6056 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many miles did you put on them any issues?

    • @douglasgarcia2731
      @douglasgarcia2731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any update on them?

  • @chrism-xe5ku
    @chrism-xe5ku ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would have liked to hear each cam at an idle for a few moments. Some guys like me aren’t worried about every point of HP or torque. Idle sound!

  • @WD-sr8qz
    @WD-sr8qz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're the man Richard!

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That motor is becoming legendary. Bit more work and your into 100bhp/Ltr.
    What else would you do, set or higher ratio rockers?.
    That was a lot of work in a short amount of time. Had to catch up with the previous upload, at least you managed to stay awake🙂👍

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please see the 542-hp 5.3l vids

    • @gothicpagan.666
      @gothicpagan.666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 I'm now left wondering if the BTR cam that gave 542bhp in the other video, had too much exhaust timing relative to the inlet, it doesn't follow what you'd expect as shown by this Sloppy cam test.
      Perfect test for that 8-1exhaust though 😆👍

  • @james10739
    @james10739 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you went thru 1 thru 3 I was like man to bad he didn't get the 1.5 but then BAM

  • @mattgraham1983
    @mattgraham1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤔 I wonder how much of a difference a "performance" intake manifold would make to the stage3, I wouldn't expect much maybe tidy up the lower rpm.. great test👍

  • @msh6865
    @msh6865 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5-7 horsepower or lbs ft torque aren't going to be noticable on the butt dyno. Heads or power adders will. I wouldn't get too caught up in chasing minimal hp gains. Find the appropriate cam for your application and rpm range then build around that.

  • @wailingalen
    @wailingalen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro u got a new sub and like. 👍 You got right to the point, it's nice to see du ở back to back comparison of these different cam stages.

  • @yoderboys1
    @yoderboys1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the sloppy stage 1.5 in my ls swapped 94 1500 and it does perty good.

  • @jimmyford796
    @jimmyford796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Richard another great and informative video for the Chevy guys lol. I’m a Mopar guy but I still enjoy all of your videos. I going to swap a factory 6.4 hemi non mds cam into my 2010 5.7 hemi. It would be nice to see a comparison of the 5.7 and the 6.4 cams. I chose to go this way because I’ve read that it requires no tuning, and the VVT works with both cams.

    • @chipcurrey653
      @chipcurrey653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the factory engines have a narrow band o2 sensor when defaulting over to speed density (full throttle) and a very small range of possible air fuel adjustment. From looking at my copy of hp tuners for those engines the max range of fuel adder based on O2 sensors is about half a point of air fuel ratio. So you can reverse engineer that if the other camshaft "needs no tuning" the power gains are very, very small or it would create a lean detonation condition.

    • @sniperpronerfmods9811
      @sniperpronerfmods9811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      6.4 is awesome coming from cheby guy

  • @abdullaalameri90
    @abdullaalameri90 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great test 👌

  • @daxtonclaude9655
    @daxtonclaude9655 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What engine was powering the car on the chassis dyno? It sounded ludicrous.

  • @kenneymitchell1186
    @kenneymitchell1186 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks great video

  • @cryptoredneck8255
    @cryptoredneck8255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison!

  • @erickbernard8208
    @erickbernard8208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fyi ur doing sloppy central PROUD!!!!! Thank you for ur service lol

  • @gearhead7896
    @gearhead7896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally the SS3! Now do the TN on a LY6 (make sure it has rec port heads)!

  • @christophershafer5615
    @christophershafer5615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see the Truck Norris vs. Torquer V4!

  • @LionPride-bv9cs
    @LionPride-bv9cs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Re: Yesterdays video I was actually replying to a comment when you took it down, but somebody was asking about the 8711R1 in the 5.3 with the Katech heads. I bet you could get really close to 500 with that with the TBSS on top. Like ti see how it would compare to this and similar 500ishhp combos. Speaking of lower lift and valvetrain stability, I'd be curious to see how the Summit Stage 3 8708R1 faired in comparison.

  • @bowhite1293
    @bowhite1293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:55 caught me off guard brah. Shot Dr Pepper out of my nose 😆

  • @MechanicalDrifting
    @MechanicalDrifting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    do you have a video of you testing any of these cams with stock heads? ive got 1840p .600 lift springs stock heads tho high volume oil pump everything else like your base build just curious how different it is to something like these trickflow 220 heads your using in this vid. love the content btw!

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the spread is still similar-less to start and less to end

  • @kirbyswarp
    @kirbyswarp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Richard, have you ever tested if an exhaust with lots of curves and turns affects power vs one that doesn't?

    • @johnparrish9215
      @johnparrish9215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Over at Enginemasters they dented the hell out of a set of headers before they could measure a meaningful difference..

    • @kirbyswarp
      @kirbyswarp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnparrish9215 I saw that, but in theory velocity of air gets reduced when it has to make turns. I wanted to know If the exhaust has a bunch of sharp curves to get around suspension/gas tank if it would make a difference to flow.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      don't worry about the flow change, just build the exhaust

    • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
      @DodgyBrothersEngineering ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnparrish9215 strange how that happens, but the dyno shows it to be true. I used to own a car that started life as a 4 / 6 cylinder (same body) and I dropped a SBC in it. The only way to get extractors on it was to weave them between the lower control arms. So they weren't ideal pipes. One of the pipes got a significant flat (maybe 50%) of the pipe diameter hitting the ground over bumps at speed, but it never seemed to make any difference to the power. Looking at it you would have thought otherwise.

  • @juliovaldez5468
    @juliovaldez5468 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would you do a video on the Chinese cams on ebay?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  หลายเดือนก่อน

      THE ONES I HAVE LOOKED AT DON'T QUALIFY AS CAMS

  • @erickbren8702
    @erickbren8702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    with a 230/230 do I still generate enough vacuum? I am concerned of the extra costs of getting a big cam like a e-break booster or something. Thanks for your help!

  • @largesfc
    @largesfc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would advancing the cam 2-4 deg bring some of the torque back down low?

    • @vrm86gt
      @vrm86gt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not enough piston to valve clearance on those bigger cams

    • @stevecobratei8538
      @stevecobratei8538 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Advance will increase low end torque. Go the other way and you lose torque, but increase high-end HP.

  • @ronwest7930
    @ronwest7930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn't hear the choppy idle. I would like to see torque cams tested. Find the best usable street cams for a big block.

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm the type of guy who puts the SS3 cam in a 5.3, for the chop. You gotta have chop. 😛

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      chop chop chop

    • @erik120719
      @erik120719 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@richardholdener1727 I like the natural cam sound vs the chop. I really wanted to go with the ss3 but did the SS2, really need a stall but rolling 40 this thing lites em up when u stand in it. 7400lb monster, has 5.13s now ( going to drop 3/4 ton axles in soon, poor 10bolt rt now gets beat up) , 243s I ported and had decked, 4.8l flat top pistons, SS2 , gen 4 intake , full long tube exhaust, 4l80e.
      th-cam.com/users/shortsGWDoB6UFH3Q?si=8mh15DFwg8hA_PMj

  • @joshgessinger4509
    @joshgessinger4509 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how did these cams compare to say big name cams.
    Texas speed or BTR cams for example. Do they make comparable HP or is it worth buying a better brand name cam.
    Good stuff as always
    Thanks Richard

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you buy cam specs-not names

    • @joshgessinger4509
      @joshgessinger4509 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727
      Ya im not really good with specs so ur saying long as the specs r around the same or the same then should be good right. My mind has never been good with numbers have a really hard time remembering numbers. One thing thats always made me feel stupid. Lately a lot of things been making me feel stupid 😂
      So long as specs r same as the name brand should be as good then.
      Thanks Richard.

  • @MasterOfSpaceTime
    @MasterOfSpaceTime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have AMAZING dentures dude!
    Where did you get them?
    I need to get my 88 year old dad there because your dentures are GREAT! 👍

  • @JohnDoe-ud2cc
    @JohnDoe-ud2cc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What would be the best cam for a lifted truck and for hauling and towing?

    • @stlchucko
      @stlchucko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A small one

  • @jcanfixall1585
    @jcanfixall1585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your ear protection... 😂

  • @ndemarco2013
    @ndemarco2013 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    L33 w/ SS3 and M1 please!!!

  • @BnMGarage
    @BnMGarage หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are these the cheap china Ebay/amazon versions? They usually come in unmarked boxes.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  หลายเดือนก่อน

      no-these were from Elgin (real deal Sloppy Cams)

  • @mattflang-te5om
    @mattflang-te5om ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put a ss3 in my 56 Chevy truck, all the chop, kinda soggy down low but turned on .

  • @sonnyrojas7275
    @sonnyrojas7275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m wondering what was the power numbers with the stock cam compared to these other cams

    • @sonnyrojas7275
      @sonnyrojas7275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @richardholdener1727

  • @DarcyPretula
    @DarcyPretula ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what are the cam specs on the SS3 Great work

  • @AnDrEw122100
    @AnDrEw122100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curious how long it takes you to do a cam swap on the dyno mule ?

  • @chevrolet355
    @chevrolet355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im curious what a junkyard motor completely stock minus springs and ss2 and ss3 cam power numbers

    • @swfltechnician7562
      @swfltechnician7562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im curious on what max cam could be used with stock pistons on a gen 4 6.0

  • @Otravainard
    @Otravainard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello im doing lifters and camshaft shaft on my 5.3 vortec what would be the best besides oem

  • @omarboone1220
    @omarboone1220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally unrelated but a serious thought: If you had twin turbos, not compound, 1 small to spool quickly & 1 large to make big top end power, how would that work?

  • @Manmac89
    @Manmac89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trying to figure my set up out. I have Lq4 with 317 heads thinking about a ss2. Trying to at least get to 450rwhp but wouldn’t mind more

  • @danielochoa9454
    @danielochoa9454 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Richard I love your work! Have you tired the even cheaper EBay cam runs around $80 for a stage2 cam or should I go with the Elgin instead. Just feel like it’s made by the same Chinese factory?

  • @terrymitchell8081
    @terrymitchell8081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How would a l92 react to a ss3 cam? do you think it would be a good fit? Also being a bigger cid engine do you think cam timing could help any power loss lower in the rpm’s?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the SS3 cam will work on a 6.2L. It will lose power down low-but it has more to start with on a bigger motor.

    • @terrymitchell8081
      @terrymitchell8081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardholdener1727 thank u for the reply do you think that cam timing could correct any of that or would I run into piston valve clearance issues? I’m only suggesting 4 or so degrees

  • @boost1728
    @boost1728 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Surprised and sad the Best cam wasn’t included

    • @james10739
      @james10739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya I was wanting to see a stock cam too but he has all those test you can kinda guess and figure it out possibly do some math and fioit the percentage difference

    • @boost1728
      @boost1728 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@james10739of course we can. But that being said we’ve already seen him do other cams extremely similar to those in this video so we could’ve done math to create the entire comparison…. But that’s not the point. As viewers we like to see data. Would’ve been cool to see ALL of the sloppy cams in one video- including the Best. The End

  • @Cultofpersonality09129
    @Cultofpersonality09129 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Texas speed has this stage 3 cam as their MS3 cam.

  • @H1shman
    @H1shman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SS3 in my boat. Only need power from 4500+ and running beehives was needed for marine duty. PTV was close. Can’t imagine with 30 thousands taken off the head!

    • @cmovezz3192
      @cmovezz3192 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did u end up with the stage 3 ? How do u like it?

    • @douglasgarcia2731
      @douglasgarcia2731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s the setup?

    • @H1shman
      @H1shman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great for my needs. I wouldn’t run it on anything other than really wild setups. You’re much better off with something with .610 to .625 lift with lower duration. You’ll need dual springs as that’s much more aggressive ramp rates but that will give you more power at lower rpm’s

    • @H1shman
      @H1shman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Late model 6.0 LQ9. Holly hi-ram. Sloppy stage 3 with PAC 212(or 218 I can’t remember just basic beehive) Running in a jet boat. VS Racing cast 7875 spinning to around 7000rpm. ~700-800hp

  • @ronaldrey8474
    @ronaldrey8474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love to hear the idol x 3

  • @31frdtrk
    @31frdtrk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I run stage 2 on a set of 062 vortec heads what need to be done? Thanks all John

  • @redneckrevolt1
    @redneckrevolt1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much fuel do you push through those 80# injectors? Jw if your going all out with the fuel or if the air is limiting the hp

  • @srage9188
    @srage9188 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning 🐱

  • @victorboyd4052
    @victorboyd4052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there a video with the stage 3 in a gen 3 5.3 and 243 heads

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did test the Sloppy Stage 3 cam-that video is up

    • @victorboyd4052
      @victorboyd4052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardholdener1727 okay I'll try to find it

  • @jeremiah_c10
    @jeremiah_c10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about nitrous instead of turbo for that big stage 3 cam

  • @adonismoore7938
    @adonismoore7938 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think the ss3 would have ptv issues in a lq9 with ls3 heads?

  • @main9594
    @main9594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Richard im looking for a cam for a 383 i don't want to really hear it wich way should i go i really appreciate you

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      383 ls?

    • @main9594
      @main9594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @richardholdener1727 SBC

    • @main9594
      @main9594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardholdener1727 sbc 383

    • @main9594
      @main9594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @richardholdener1727 Hey Richard, sorry for the late reply, but it's an Sbc 383

  • @gabelgabel255
    @gabelgabel255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I REALLY NEED AN ANSWER..DID YOU DEGREE THE CAMS

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why do you really need an answer...but the answer is no

  • @Onlyjustwilly
    @Onlyjustwilly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question man can use sloppy stage 2 an make 1200whp or will I need a bigger cam

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you can make that even with a smaller cam-the turbo dictates the power output

  • @tylertracy8024
    @tylertracy8024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's the best pac valves for sloppy stage 3 cam ?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have not run PAC springs

    • @Ls_swap211
      @Ls_swap211 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1219 is what I run with ss3 on a 5.3

  • @derekchisholm6602
    @derekchisholm6602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are the power numbers for that engine with a stock cam?

  • @hallnvideos8400
    @hallnvideos8400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any info on the sloppy "Best" cam?

  • @hayden6056
    @hayden6056 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shame the stage 1.5 isn't on a tighter lobe seperation a 108 or 110 would make it a ripper little street cam.

    • @hefftoneGA
      @hefftoneGA ปีที่แล้ว

      Check into the Sloppy "Best"

    • @hayden6056
      @hayden6056 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hefftoneGA good looking cam only 1 degree of overlap at .050 still. A 110 would make 2 degrees a 108 would make 6 degrees.
      Around 5 degrees seems to work pretty well with an LS.

  • @adonismoore7938
    @adonismoore7938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the ss3 in a lq4 which heads should I use I have 862 5.3 heads and 823 ls3 heads

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      823 MAKES A LOT MORE POWER-BUT LOWERS COMPRESSION

    • @adonismoore7938
      @adonismoore7938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 yeah that’s why I’m trying to get an opinion on which to use for a street car

    • @danielochoa9454
      @danielochoa9454 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      862 Send it! Higher compression more torque and power below 6k RPM! Hey Richard! Would you recommend those EBay/Amazon Cams there low prices are attractive but not trying to get a cheeply made cam?

  • @shortsbyj3763
    @shortsbyj3763 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    will this fit ls3 camaro ss

  • @302hobronco
    @302hobronco ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did they all share the same lobe seperation?

  • @jamesderoche7143
    @jamesderoche7143 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Richard, great videos!! They're very informative. Quick question, how can I increase low end torque (below 3000 rpm) on an 08 6.0L LS LY6? It's in a 3/4 truck that I tow a 7500lb trailer with. Thanks.

    • @l8tapex
      @l8tapex ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Truck Norris is close.....

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boost

    • @daveunbranded
      @daveunbranded ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you follow Richard at all you'll know that you can make more torque by increasing your runner length.

    • @acunit1639
      @acunit1639 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roots style supercharger

    • @stlchucko
      @stlchucko ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Headers and maybe a small cam with a narrow LSA. Gains below 3k will be minimal. For larger gains down low, it’s either more displacement or boost.
      Honestly, let it rev. A LY6 makes its peak torque above 3k.

  • @justinphillip3200
    @justinphillip3200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How would the sloppy stage 2 camshaft perform with a 5.3 l engine that has 11 to 1 compression?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same as it does with any other compression ratio. The compression just adds power to any cam

  • @MonzaRacer
    @MonzaRacer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im midding an Ls4 GXP so considering my trans selections i chise to keep my cam moderate and went with Elgin 1839/SS1.5 and its my daily so running at or over .600 lift is hard on valvetrain so im goin tbss, 50# injectors, 1839, obd macimizer headers, ill free. Up exhaust as best i can and choose the 4t80 with appropriate final drive and 3njoy my ride. And maybe down road ill add some squeeze,,,,,,

  • @tri_state_picker
    @tri_state_picker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any thoughts or videos on doing 5.3 ss2 with tt ?

  • @JA-xv8qk
    @JA-xv8qk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How good do those ebay and Amazon cams hold up?

  • @WristPinned
    @WristPinned ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the sloppy stage 3 cam have enough valve clearance on a stock Gen 3 5.3 with stock pistons & stock 706 heads?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes

    • @WristPinned
      @WristPinned ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info! Appreciate it. ​@@richardholdener1727

    • @trebrown8144
      @trebrown8144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@richardholdener1727 what would you have to look out for if you did rich? Any to worry about

  • @stlchucko
    @stlchucko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish you also had a stock cam in there so there was a baseline

    • @jcanfixall1585
      @jcanfixall1585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You probably wish you understood the video as well...

    • @stlchucko
      @stlchucko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jcanfixall1585 I understood it just fine. If you'd like to post the link to the video of this flat top piston TFS headed L33 with a stock cam so I can compare the curves, that' be great.

    • @cedricwilson2055
      @cedricwilson2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stlchucko he has a few stock cam baseline videos. They usually start the same down low and roll off earlier, due to the short duration

  • @kennygarrett4501
    @kennygarrett4501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How streetable is the ss3 in a 3200 # car? 4l80 and 354 gears . Thanks

  • @dayofleo8550
    @dayofleo8550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you need to upgrade valve springs to run that stage 3 cam

  • @JesusMendozaCovers
    @JesusMendozaCovers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou!

  • @Ls_swap211
    @Ls_swap211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder what the heads are making vs stock 862/706 heads ?
    I’m running the ss3 on a lm7 with tbss intake 92mm tb with 862s
    I home ported my 862 heads but I wonder how far it’s off vs the tf heads he uses

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      these TFS heads are the best I have ever seen, but not sure how much we are utilizing them with a mild combo

    • @Ls_swap211
      @Ls_swap211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 so they are probably making what 25-30ish hp over as cast stock heads ?

    • @WristPinned
      @WristPinned ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Ls_swap211Did you have an issue with piston to valve clearance with the ss3?

    • @Ls_swap211
      @Ls_swap211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WristPinned nope I used a .55 btr gasket

    • @Ls_swap211
      @Ls_swap211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardholdener1727 what pushrods did you go with on the shaved heads ?

  • @stephanouellet3673
    @stephanouellet3673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its my new cam on my Silverado SS 6.0 bored 6.2 ,stage 3 cam replace ss2,new 2'' headers replace 1 7/8,and 3600 stall replace 2500, very impatient to see the difference

    • @cmovezz3192
      @cmovezz3192 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How you like the stage 3 compared to the 2? I’m building a 6.0 30 over and can’t decide on which one to use. It’s gonna go in a 95 Chevy single cab

    • @stephanouellet3673
      @stephanouellet3673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont finished my motor,i will convert my stage 3 in solid lifters,i will try to complete this summer

    • @cmovezz3192
      @cmovezz3192 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What made you wanna change from the stage 2 to the 3?

  • @douglasgarcia2731
    @douglasgarcia2731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey I have a lq4 with dished pistons I milled the 799 heads .030 and I want to run the ss3 cam would I run into PTV issues? It has a 0.048 crush fel pro HG , correctly sitting at 10:91 compression

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you need to measure to be sure

    • @douglasgarcia2731
      @douglasgarcia2731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardholdener1727 ok thanks for the feedback I’m hoping to be able to run it without any Issues🙏🏼

  • @zacharyandrew2653
    @zacharyandrew2653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are people’s experience with the Amazon sloppy stage 2 cam and lifter kits ? I hear so much about the experience about the cams but never the lifters that you can get with any of the many cam kits available or any other components that come with them . Would really love to know because I have a 5.3 that I’m trying to decide how I’ll build wether it’s all ls7 lifters and a btr or call it a day at a 500 dollar sloppy stage 2 kit with everything

  • @11SpeedFreek11
    @11SpeedFreek11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would have been nice to see "sloppys best cam" along with the others..mainly since that's what Im running, currently, I also have an SS2 on the shelf..

    • @foreignautomobiles
      @foreignautomobiles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would anyone know what the best cam is without knowing the exact specs and usage of your build? That's a very specific thing.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sloppy Best cam is a new cam offered by Matt Sloppy

    • @nono-fn3zc
      @nono-fn3zc ปีที่แล้ว

      This is exactly what I was thinking; where the Sloppy “Best Cam”.
      Richard you tested the Sloppy “Best Cam” a year ago against the Truck Norris. Are you saying there’s another Sloppy “Best Cam” out there :confused?

    • @Lagrange1186
      @Lagrange1186 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the sloppy best cam is its own cam. Really close to the 1.5 just a fuzz tighter LSA