@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 cause they're always annoying and take away from the transformers. An it's not like they can, the transformers comics do only transformers story all the time.
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 The 1st bay verse movies made it almost an exact action replica of the war for cybertron transformers story like for animation and games… mainly games because of how much more complex action is and feels/makes you feel… so if a movie is like fall of cybertron with huge MetroPlex( autobot the size of a cybertronion city), than you’ll literally have a brain-gasm
@@WilliamAfton-ki1ft They're already doing it, just not with Peter. James Earl Jones has had his vocal imprint saved, and they used it in Obi-Wan. And unless you knew it was synthetic, you never would have known.
The whole point of the Humans is because some of the Transformers IE the Decepticons are targetting earth and humans, in desperate needs to bring back Cybertron, the autobots know that if cybertron is rebuilt, it would be the end for earth and humanity. Now earth is rich in energon which they use for building massive armies so deleting the humans would be entirely stupid. But you're right, there needs to be less screen time for humans and solely focus on the lore itself.
The thing that’s the best about Bumblebee & RotB is that it brought back the classic characters that we all know and love. Now, mix more of the Bayverse into what we have now, plus a deeper storyline, and it’ll be pure gold
All i can say was “ no one in the past needed such scenes to explain who the humans are what their problems are and not to forget they were more mature and the mature human characters that has influenced me!
Even "The Last Knight" was not the best.... They need to finally reveal Unicron as earth and his horns slowly appearing... Been waiting too long for that.
I loved TLK and that’s all I’ve been waiting for I could care less about the prequels they’re doing now, they’re still fun films tho and it’s always great to see Prime and Bee in a film
@@jeffreyworthy5384 exactly the point I was trying to make, the bayverse was slowly building up with the Last Knights story. Then boom, they hit us with Bumblebee and Rise of the beasts which in my opinion both got like 4 or 5 out of 10.
@@potatoknights.4979 Totally agree. The direction they are going in now is the wrong one. Even though I enjoyed Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts, as far as I'm concerned they're not cannon. It's another universe.
Bring the autobot family dynamics, the actual decepticon mix of bad family and constant trolling! Tfp had humans but the main focus WAS still the bots- squabbles, conflicts, showdowns and shenanigans. Make a properly tall and whiny starscream, a coolly calculating shockwave, a cheeky Ironhide! Bring the found family aspect! That's where the old series and movies shined!!! Where is the art of camp?
in honesty my favorite bay verse movies were Revenge Of The Fallen, Dark Of The Moon with Sentinel Prime, Age Of Extinction with Grimlock and the other Dinobots, and The Last Knight with Dragon Storm....those are my original favorites.
@ProfessorSikowitz-ni7heYes and a big NO at the same time. It should be BOTH at the same time to make everyone happy. For me og has boring designs since my first Transformers were Bayverse ones. And I like ONLY Bayverse and TF Prime Bumblebee designs so... Let's agree we just need both.
yes!!! Omg!!! Can we stop trying to ‘make’ transformers movies and get back to our G1 quality roots! Opening scene if Bumbkebee was gold. Deceptions looked amazing!
Um transformers one literally coming in 2 months origin story of Optimus and Megatron on cybertron no humans you guys forget about that or have you been living under rocks and not heard anything about it
@@Roadblock213 [when we say we want a movie about cybertron we also mean with the graphics from the opening scene from bumblebee, not this cartoon ahh movie
Just please bring back the Bayverse Transformers! Yes it has it’s issues, but sure as hell did not have any buildings just popping out of thin air and a crossover with G.I Joe. The best part of Rise of the Beasts was the ending! It was the only actual epic part of the movie, the rest was just poor scripted drama. And even mentioned by many people in the comments we don’t care about the people. We need more scenes like what we got at the beginning of Bumblebee! Cinema gold. Thank you for the video, really enjoyed it!
Gundam fan is here.👀 Sorry I can't agree in mecha perspective. Especially because there are small bots. So it's still not Mecha. They are TRANSFORMERS. The most unique Multiverse among all mechanic-robotic geners. But as aliens and robots genere it is perfect because so many topics and questions from humanity about robots and AI were up in movies and series.
I understand what you mean.........and in the Bayverse it wouldn't make sense. In this new "reality".......in the comics there WAS a collaboration with G.I. Joe. So in this, it makes sense.
Just can’t wait to see Transformers and G.J. Joe in 2025 at the Movies Hopefully The Autobots will team up with G.I. Joe against The Decepticons and Cobra too
I'm a big Transformers fan. I thought rise of the beast's was a great movie. The problem in my opinion is a franchise like Transformers has so many different time line's and continuities it must be hard to make a movie that lives upto expectations of fan's new and old.
I totally agree. I prefer the retro look to the Transformers. Bay-verse was so all over the place. The reboot in Bumblebee was needed, but that's my opinion.
@@Monkeydad1969 I couldn't disagree more. The entire purpose of the Bayverse was to bring the Transformers to life, as in away from the cartoons. It's what we all wanted back in the 80s.
I think the reboot transformer films are great, I'm more of a bayverse transformer fan since I grew up with the bayver films, but I SERIOUSLY hate people HATING the bayverse films cuz of "Oh it's too violent", "Oh optimus prime is some sort of psychopathic killer", or "Oh the decepticons are TOO scary" I seriously hate these kinds of people, I hope there are others out there who agree that the bayverse films are also fantastic transformer films
Yes bayverse had decent levels of epic, but... How many decepticons actually were recognizable after/in tf1? Scream is fat instead of skinny, shockwave BARELY held original traits! All the design work of bumblebee and the latest stuff at least is on point. We need bumblebee graphics and tfp storyline, personally.
@@darreny1375 first off bayverse is NOT decent, it’s the greatest thing ever on earth, second I agree it can use more transformer plot over a different kind but it’s nice to see it have a different plot and story, third who gives a fuck if the decepticons aren’t recognizable, that’s the beauty of bayverse formers, the designs are so badass and realistic it makes them very scary and not a joke, bumblebee is good and all but it seriously feels so outdated, there’s a reason why transformers was almost gonna die and become lost media, not enough people are giving credit to bayverse for bringing back the franchise, if it weren’t for bayverse, transformers would be long gone forever. Also the filmmakers and producers DO care about tiny details in their films, like Optimus throwing his sword on grindor’s leg or the fallen literally decapitated one of the soldiers when he steals the matrix. Lastly the bayverse films made SO much money except for the last night better than Steven called juniors rise of the beasts or Travis Scott’s bumblebee, as well as the bayverse films gave purpose to the main character and Optimus with their connection. Unlike rise of the beasts where there were barely any interaction or growth with Noah and Optimus, and worst of all in my opinion Optimus acted as a depressed drunk alcoholic when he left cybertron instead of trying to wipe them tears and keep fighting compared to bayverse Optimus who kept trying no matter how hard it hits him back, only reason so many people are hyping up bumblebee and rise of the beasts cuz it’s g1 but realistic then everyone just goes and forgets bayverse is a thing and not admitting the films were mediocre both the films themselves and how much budget it made at the box office
I LOVE the Bay films. I don't get why so many hate on the human element of them. The first 3 had great human stories. 4 and 5 were more Optimus focused stories which were also great. But all 5 were definitely epic! Part 1 is the most epic for me personally...especially the Scorpinok fight!
@@LIGHTNING132YTG fr man, the trilogy were such fantastic films. Last knight was the last straw but I heard the reason Michael made 2 more transformer films after dotm is because paramount was getting greedy and wanted bay to make more films just for the money, I heard that after dotm bay just wanted the transformer films to end at dotm which I think would be a great end to the trilogy. But because nowadays a lot of million dollar companies like Warner brothers, Disney, activision, blizzard, and EA are so money hungry that they became very greedy only for the money, and how everytime a product does well billion dollar companies push that limit till they kill the very thing it once had.
I felt Bumblebee was a step in the wrong direction and found it to be the worst live action Transformers to date. I would still rate Bumblebee as the worst Transformers movie to date, I liked the designs going back to those of old, but the rest was boring trash. When Bumblebee released it was the sixth best Transformers live action movie out of 6, then again I felt a Bumblebee centered movie would be akin to a Power Rangers centered on Bulk and Skull instead of the Rangers.
@motometalracer Bumblebee was easily the worst Transformers movie, then again Bumblebee is one of the worst Autobots, let alone Transformer. A movie about Bumblebee like it was makes just as little sense as a Power Rangers movie with a focus on Bulk and Skull, only the Power Rangers movie couldn't be close to as bad as Bumblebee was. Even Transmorphers which is a Transformers knockoff looks like a masterpiece compared to Bumblebee.
01:24-01:30 Just hope Paramount actually means it Bumblebee was the best movie in terms of plot, story, character And Great Tactical Fight Cheography. While ROTB wasn’t as succesfull as Bumblebee or the 2007 movie, it at least gave much more screen time to the Transformer Characters and had below mid plot at best and bit more personality to SOME characters. Downsides where •Cheetor having little to no & Rhinox not having a single piece of dialouge with both not staying still to admire there Robot Mode’s in the final fight •Battletrap’s name never being mention once •(This is my personal opinion) but the movie not being as bright, having a much more duler color than the other’s • Airazor’s death being wasted and not seeing her Robot Mode once • Fight Cheography not being as tactical as Bumblebee, Optimus magically beating Scourge on his own while he struggled the other two times they fought •Bumblebee dying yet again only to be brought back to life as well as Mirage (though I did love Bee’s enterance to the Battlefield), but both of there deaths didn’t really have much of an impact Other than those downsides, I did have a blast wathing the movie during the opening day
@SubhajyotiGoswami-ui3ks idek if that should have a response. None of the movies were stupid, TF3 was good in it's own way but it seems the narrative was all over the place. Would've been better to have Shockwave in cahoots with Sentinel Prime. Megatron should've been an afterthought since he got his ass beat in 2. Idk whatever the writers were thinking was probably better than what we could've got, maybe... TF4 was OK, but they could throw away 5.
Yes we are going to see Scourge and the Terrorcons Again, because the Terrorcons are more stronger than the Decepticons and even if they are dead and ripped apart they have the ability to revive themselves thats how Unicron created them
@@martinscarstrucksracinggam7057WTF are you talking about no they don't if that was the case they would have been walking around just fine or retreated to unicron before he came through the portal there dead and not coming back so no we will not be seeing them again that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life
I love transformers and I even watched it when I was a kid and the movies did make a huge improvement and I would love to see even more transformers movies
Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts really weren't reboots though. Its getting pretty old that people keep saying that. The directors and Hasbro and paramount never said such things that Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts are total reboots. All they said was its another story and that it's fresh but their also preserving what happened with Bays movies and it will not affect the timeline. Fans and online media outlets made that up that Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts were reboots
It’s funny all y’all new transformers fans r the only ones who didn’t like ROTB and bumblebee movie because they r the closest thing to what made the franchise
For those who dont know, the G.I. Joe shown in the video is from the 80s/90s, around the same time as transformers. The 60s version would not be used since they werre mainly just toys, no movies
TF8, if still set before 2007, might see Megatron held in cryostasis at the Hoover Dam. We may instead see either Tarn or Predacons such as Predaking (as a two-headed dragon) as the main antagonist of this film. We should also see Decepticons Barricade (as a black 1965 Ford Mustang GT fastback), Starscream (as a F/A-18F Super Hornet fighter jet in G1 colors), Fracture (as a modified gray and red 1996 Toyota Soarer), Stunticons including Motormaster (a black and purple Kenworth K1000E), Dragstrip (a modified yellow 1976 Tyrrell P34), Wildrider (a red and black 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition), Breakdown (a matte black 2003 Range Rover Series III Vogue), Dead End (a blue 1967 Plymouth Barracuda fastback), Bottleneck (a red 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am), and Skipjack (a green and red 1973 Dodge Serra Boulevard 3700 GT), and Autobots Prowl (a 1981 Datsun 280ZX Massachusetts State Police cruiser and later a modified black and gold 2003 Nissan Fairlady 350Z), Rally - a newcomer (a modified blue 1998 Subaru Impreza STI 22b), Bumblebee - her mentor (a beat-up yellow and black 1977 Chevrolet Camaro), Wheeljack (now a white and green 1988 Saab 900 Aero Turbo coupe), Ratchet (a Boston EMS ambulance based on the 2003 Hummer H2), and Optimus Prime himself (now a customized red and blue 2001 Freightliner Argosy).
Hasbro don't really care if there movies flop, they make most there money in merchandise so introducing new characters with new looks just allows them to make more toys. Personally I loved the last film but I am biased as I just love transformers in general, either way I hope they do continue on there current path as I loved the visuals on the new movies everything is clear( besides getting a clear look at the maximal forms, only saw snippets in battle)
@@jamesbizs yeah, obviously they do but I'm saying they make more from toy sales and what not than they do from the films. Obviously they want the movies to do well.
Honestly the bayverse was 1000 times better than rise of the beasts. Also, adding GiJoe will just ruin transformers for me and for allot of people. That's the problem with directors, don't fix something that isn't broken. The Bayverse is so much better and I would've loved for them to continue the story onwards.
If theyre gonna retcon to the 80's, go back to animation. If you're gonna stick with "live action", the Bayverse style is the way to go. The Bayverse idea is what most of us wanted back in the 80s. Transformers you could actually believe existed.
We need to see Unicron transform. Heck just remake the 1986 film somehow. Update it and bring it into the modern times and slot it somehow into the cinema timeline. I'm sure it could be adopted somehow.
I'm "onboard" with what this video is selling, but what confirmation confirms Cobra will be the main threat in Hasbro's Cinematic crossover? It is widely known by Hasbro fans that Cobra (as an organization) and Decepticons aren't the only known Joe-threats.
Those actors were horrible in rise of the beast, they made meganfox look like platinum actor status. The cgi is video game type not realistic time. Not defending the bayverse, but it did set a standard and the bar high and thats what should be followed
I would like to see in new Transformers Ultra Magnus, i love that bot, it´s shame that we coudn´t see him in bayverse but maybe who knows maybe we will see him now. :D
The funny thing is that rise of the beast was Hasbro's fault 100%. Stephen had a better planned story, but it got scrapped because of Hasbro wanting to stick to the live action movie road map they had. The latest movie wasn't even going to have unicron or the maximals at all.
There have always been humans in transformers from the start. For someone to say they only want transformers in the movie doesn't understand the Transformers lore.
It didn’t flop these r all new transformers fans that never watched before bayverse 😂 the movie actually broke records its first night and according to every fan who watched it they liked it 😂
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 I see all the time things like "Transformers Rise of the Beasts 2023 Trailer", but then, in reality, those videos just reuse clips from the previous Transformers movies, and mix them up with something like Jurassic Park trailers and stuff like that...
I want Bayverse to continue! I don’t think it’s too late. I just think the whole “knight” theme is getting old and I was never really all about it to begin with anyway! Bumblebee was cool, ROTB was fine, but my heart is with the Bayverse movies
"so forgetable that it quickly faded from memory" what the h😄ll is this dude talking about?! this movie is easily on top with tf 2007 and 2009, Bumblebee is great too but its more like a "bumblebee movie" than a transformers movie. the movie suffered at the Box Office but it is one of the best.
I'm sorry but al we want is the bay verse back. that's what we fell in love with and what started it all. Those are the best looking, best feeling and best overall movies. Give us the bayverse back
Wait did you just said the transformers in bayverse had development? Bruh the only onw with an avtual personality was optimus, bee didnt speak and the rest were just... there. Rise of the beast had actually transformers being chsracters and a step in tbe correct direction, but too ambitious we should scale back, small autobots team and small cons team, classic Optimus V Megatron and a best wars movie which hapoen simultanieously building up an autobot and maximal team up and then a team up vs unicron. The studio has a lot of potential material and this vkdeo jjst showed ZERO knowledge of basic lore. Origin of energon? Its Primus, mentioned in ROTB, so yiu mean the origin of cybertron? Man what a misinformed video. Rotb was cool 6/10, and it is still the best transfor.ers movie we have to the date (bumblebee is a spinoff). So a bit less maximum conflict, less humans less army and GI JOE (for now) and more autobot vs decepticons for 2 movies.
They should honestly make a big war movie just about all of the decepticons and the Auto bots in there older forms, it would be a bad ass movie tbh. Like star scream and sound wave and possibly megatron
I dislike Bayformers and am not looking forward to more scrap metal designs, silly puberty jokes, non-stop explosions, glorification of the US military and massive of cliches and stereotypes.
Movies are flopping cuz Hollywood keeps making the same movies over, over, over. Also movie theaters are becoming old school movie watching, instant streaming at home is the way people want to watch that they can pause for bathroom breaks and snacks you bought cheaper at Wal-Mart.
Ok if bay-verse is so good answer a couple questions and I will believe you , what was the main plot of the bayverse , what was your favorite transformers character moments that wasn’t just an action scene what was their character traits ?
They were the best films so far, the plot was about Prime’s heroic journey as he comes to trust and defend humans only to be betrayed by them but then eventually accepting Earth as his home all while unwinding the mystery of the history of the transformers and how they came to be
@@zacharymessner6157 that’s all good accept Optimus just slowly goes crazy the other bots barely have character and don’t learn anything really, and the origin of the transformers isn’t resolved at all or done in a way that makes sense it just gets more compounded on contradictions where transformers are haphazardly stitched into history almost randomly like the huge plot hole about them being on earth and part of every major battle in history or every important person in history was covering up as a witwiccan , also name a character moment besides Optimus or a one liner that the transformers where they were more than side characters in their own franchise
The worst part about Transformers movies is they are made by people who have no idea wtf Transformers is for people who have no idea wtf Transformers is. Nobody cares about what actual fans wants. It isn't this.
I liked Rise of the Beasts. Scourge was amazing and badass! The maximals were cool, Pete Davidson playing Mirage was dope, and the new human introduction of Noah was pretty cool.
We just getting old and worse, hardly entertained. I'm sure folks 15 yrs old below enjoyed these films just like we enjoyed TF 1-3 when we were their age. We are just tired to live anymore. Nothing can satisfy us.
Why so it so hard to make transformers movies? We want a CONSISTENT plot, memorable voices and characters, minimal humans and believe it or not, transformers. It shouldn’t be that hard
JUST BRING BACK NORAMAL TRANSFORMERS BACK
Yes
Yes
Yes
Thank you…these ones are straight trash
@@_slxmmythese are mshe u transformers 😂
I don't care about humans in my transformer movie. I just want transformers.
Why
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 cause they're always annoying and take away from the transformers.
An it's not like they can, the transformers comics do only transformers story all the time.
Can't*
So there is no harm in taking care of cockroaches
I just want to see the war in cybertron…
I just want a transformers movie about cybertron
Welp transformers one coming your way at 2024!
Why
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
The 1st bay verse movies made it almost an exact action replica of the war for cybertron transformers story like for animation and games… mainly games because of how much more complex action is and feels/makes you feel… so if a movie is like fall of cybertron with huge MetroPlex( autobot the size of a cybertronion city), than you’ll literally have a brain-gasm
Yes
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
Because a franchise like Transformers needs an origin story.
I love all the Transformers movies. Bayverse, Rotb, Bumblebee. As long as we get Peter Cullen. Optimus Prime is the hero we need.
Once Peter dies Optimus dies so they are going to have to do AI voice which is going to be not the clean as Peter’s
Yes so true🎉😂😂
No
But.. Optimus in these movies is literally a war criminal 😂
@@WilliamAfton-ki1ft They're already doing it, just not with Peter. James Earl Jones has had his vocal imprint saved, and they used it in Obi-Wan. And unless you knew it was synthetic, you never would have known.
Megatron should be in every transformer movie, his absence really hurt the last 2
He was in tlk
@@Slideyyy that wasn't the reboot though TLK is still Bayverse
He’s like Joker he’s overused time for some new villains
@@akaliimaene2103 ik
Fax
Transformer films that involves humans in it should really put to a halt. they should focus on the actual transformers and cybertron itself
Exactly !!!!
If they do that they will lose people because some people can only handle cgi fights when there is also humans in the story
The whole point of the Humans is because some of the Transformers IE the Decepticons are targetting earth and humans, in desperate needs to bring back Cybertron, the autobots know that if cybertron is rebuilt, it would be the end for earth and humanity. Now earth is rich in energon which they use for building massive armies so deleting the humans would be entirely stupid. But you're right, there needs to be less screen time for humans and solely focus on the lore itself.
Fax we want transformers lore
The thing that’s the best about Bumblebee & RotB is that it brought back the classic characters that we all know and love. Now, mix more of the Bayverse into what we have now, plus a deeper storyline, and it’ll be pure gold
Fax
Literally what I was thinking. Don’t know if they’ll do it but it’s a great idea
And much less human
@@empty107-ninjathecat2 literally
All i can say was “ no one in the past needed such scenes to explain who the humans are what their problems are and not to forget they were more mature and the mature human characters that has influenced me!
Even "The Last Knight" was not the best.... They need to finally reveal Unicron as earth and his horns slowly appearing... Been waiting too long for that.
I loved TLK and that’s all I’ve been waiting for I could care less about the prequels they’re doing now, they’re still fun films tho and it’s always great to see Prime and Bee in a film
How can Unicron be Earth when in Rise of the Beasts he effectively tried to eat Earth
@@jeffreyworthy5384 exactly the point I was trying to make, the bayverse was slowly building up with the Last Knights story. Then boom, they hit us with Bumblebee and Rise of the beasts which in my opinion both got like 4 or 5 out of 10.
@@potatoknights.4979 Totally agree. The direction they are going in now is the wrong one. Even though I enjoyed Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts, as far as I'm concerned they're not cannon. It's another universe.
You’re never getting another Bay Transformers movie keep crying
Transformers 1-3 were fuckin amazing miss the old days 🥲
Let’s hope in the new movies they finally give us ultra magnus, smokescreen, perceptor, blurr, and Kup
Bring the autobot family dynamics, the actual decepticon mix of bad family and constant trolling! Tfp had humans but the main focus WAS still the bots- squabbles, conflicts, showdowns and shenanigans.
Make a properly tall and whiny starscream, a coolly calculating shockwave, a cheeky Ironhide! Bring the found family aspect! That's where the old series and movies shined!!!
Where is the art of camp?
Don't forget Prowl he need a debut in one of the next 2 films
Yeah, hopefully no...
@@Neil_Nunez, and Elite1, and a lot of them.
in honesty my favorite bay verse movies were Revenge Of The Fallen, Dark Of The Moon with Sentinel Prime, Age Of Extinction with Grimlock and the other Dinobots, and The Last Knight with Dragon Storm....those are my original favorites.
You have good taste. Those are where it's at
Agreed.
They should continue the animations, i am talking about transformers prime it was too good.
Yeah it was
It had very good story and action
@ProfessorSikowitz-ni7heYes and a big NO at the same time. It should be BOTH at the same time to make everyone happy. For me og has boring designs since my first Transformers were Bayverse ones. And I like ONLY Bayverse and TF Prime Bumblebee designs so...
Let's agree we just need both.
Prime was amazing, my 2nd fav to the original G1, I love the movies too but definitely crave good storyline
loved that show
The next movie needs to continue from the dark side of the moon as it had an opening ending
u mean age of extinction?
@@gh0st610You mean The las knight?
Many Transformers fans don't care much for the human element. I think I know how this is going to play out; not like we've never seen this before.
we need a film about Cybertron with the style of the opening scene of Bumblebee
yes!!! Omg!!! Can we stop trying to ‘make’ transformers movies and get back to our G1 quality roots! Opening scene if Bumbkebee was gold. Deceptions looked amazing!
@@M_SkyNova just like the cybertron games
Um transformers one literally coming in 2 months origin story of Optimus and Megatron on cybertron no humans you guys forget about that or have you been living under rocks and not heard anything about it
@@Roadblock213 [when we say we want a movie about cybertron we also mean with the graphics from the opening scene from bumblebee, not this cartoon ahh movie
I'm sorry, but this man said Ener-Gon 😭💀
It's obvious he's only reading a script and has never seen any of the movies at all because if you had you would know it's pronounced like EnerJOHN!
I had the same reaction😂
@@candacerain1 was it just me or did he say Dayverse when he was talking about the Bayverse at the beginning of the video
@@candacerain1 it's an AI voice that reads it that way. That's not an actual person narrating
It's not a real person
Just please bring back the Bayverse Transformers! Yes it has it’s issues, but sure as hell did not have any buildings just popping out of thin air and a crossover with G.I Joe. The best part of Rise of the Beasts was the ending! It was the only actual epic part of the movie, the rest was just poor scripted drama. And even mentioned by many people in the comments we don’t care about the people. We need more scenes like what we got at the beginning of Bumblebee! Cinema gold. Thank you for the video, really enjoyed it!
I trust that Lorenzo has a plan to unite the two as he’s stayed adamant that these are prequel films
I hope this lead to the creation of M.A.S.K.
@@zacharymessner6157they literally aren't prequels...they contradict the Bay films in almost every way. They're reboots
@@LIGHTNING132YTG They don’t contradict and have been said they are prequels many times
@@zacharymessner6157 they were also confirmed to be reboots multiple times. They contradict way too much to be prequels.
Transformers is the greatest robot/mecha franchise of all time, and deserve the best movies of all
Gundam fan is here.👀
Sorry I can't agree in mecha perspective. Especially because there are small bots. So it's still not Mecha. They are TRANSFORMERS. The most unique Multiverse among all mechanic-robotic geners. But as aliens and robots genere it is perfect because so many topics and questions from humanity about robots and AI were up in movies and series.
@@kirin7299 Transformers is one of the greatest franchise of all time
I want the BAYVERSE BACK >:(
I don't want a crossover with G.I. Joe
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Facts
Amen
I understand what you mean.........and in the Bayverse it wouldn't make sense. In this new "reality".......in the comics there WAS a collaboration with G.I. Joe. So in this, it makes sense.
I hope transformers 8 wrath of unicron will have new grimlock, and the new dinobots.
Same here
Why
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 because it was cool.
Just can’t wait to see Transformers and G.J. Joe in 2025 at the Movies Hopefully The Autobots will team up with G.I. Joe against The Decepticons and Cobra too
@@matthewskudzienski888Gi.Joe is litterly garbage Transformers is better on its own
I'm a big Transformers fan. I thought rise of the beast's was a great movie. The problem in my opinion is a franchise like Transformers has so many different time line's and continuities it must be hard to make a movie that lives upto expectations of fan's new and old.
I totally agree. I prefer the retro look to the Transformers. Bay-verse was so all over the place. The reboot in Bumblebee was needed, but that's my opinion.
So Viviane is Merlin's descendent who ages backward and is really Star Lord's mother, All Hail Opal Luna.
@@Monkeydad1969 but that's my opinion.
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@@Monkeydad1969 I couldn't disagree more. The entire purpose of the Bayverse was to bring the Transformers to life, as in away from the cartoons. It's what we all wanted back in the 80s.
Remember when the constructicons formed devastator? Bring more of that!
The 9th one better be called TRANSFORMERS:Return of Unicron
I think the reboot transformer films are great, I'm more of a bayverse transformer fan since I grew up with the bayver films, but I SERIOUSLY hate people HATING the bayverse films cuz of "Oh it's too violent", "Oh optimus prime is some sort of psychopathic killer", or "Oh the decepticons are TOO scary" I seriously hate these kinds of people, I hope there are others out there who agree that the bayverse films are also fantastic transformer films
Beyverse has the best effects and the new one look mehh tu me 😢
Yes bayverse had decent levels of epic, but...
How many decepticons actually were recognizable after/in tf1? Scream is fat instead of skinny, shockwave BARELY held original traits! All the design work of bumblebee and the latest stuff at least is on point.
We need bumblebee graphics and tfp storyline, personally.
@@darreny1375 first off bayverse is NOT decent, it’s the greatest thing ever on earth, second I agree it can use more transformer plot over a different kind but it’s nice to see it have a different plot and story, third who gives a fuck if the decepticons aren’t recognizable, that’s the beauty of bayverse formers, the designs are so badass and realistic it makes them very scary and not a joke, bumblebee is good and all but it seriously feels so outdated, there’s a reason why transformers was almost gonna die and become lost media, not enough people are giving credit to bayverse for bringing back the franchise, if it weren’t for bayverse, transformers would be long gone forever. Also the filmmakers and producers DO care about tiny details in their films, like Optimus throwing his sword on grindor’s leg or the fallen literally decapitated one of the soldiers when he steals the matrix. Lastly the bayverse films made SO much money except for the last night better than Steven called juniors rise of the beasts or Travis Scott’s bumblebee, as well as the bayverse films gave purpose to the main character and Optimus with their connection. Unlike rise of the beasts where there were barely any interaction or growth with Noah and Optimus, and worst of all in my opinion Optimus acted as a depressed drunk alcoholic when he left cybertron instead of trying to wipe them tears and keep fighting compared to bayverse Optimus who kept trying no matter how hard it hits him back, only reason so many people are hyping up bumblebee and rise of the beasts cuz it’s g1 but realistic then everyone just goes and forgets bayverse is a thing and not admitting the films were mediocre both the films themselves and how much budget it made at the box office
I LOVE the Bay films. I don't get why so many hate on the human element of them. The first 3 had great human stories. 4 and 5 were more Optimus focused stories which were also great. But all 5 were definitely epic! Part 1 is the most epic for me personally...especially the Scorpinok fight!
@@LIGHTNING132YTG fr man, the trilogy were such fantastic films. Last knight was the last straw but I heard the reason Michael made 2 more transformer films after dotm is because paramount was getting greedy and wanted bay to make more films just for the money, I heard that after dotm bay just wanted the transformer films to end at dotm which I think would be a great end to the trilogy. But because nowadays a lot of million dollar companies like Warner brothers, Disney, activision, blizzard, and EA are so money hungry that they became very greedy only for the money, and how everytime a product does well billion dollar companies push that limit till they kill the very thing it once had.
Bumblebee was the best movie of Transformers... the first 5 min is the ultimate fan service
Yeah it was
I felt Bumblebee was a step in the wrong direction and found it to be the worst live action Transformers to date. I would still rate Bumblebee as the worst Transformers movie to date, I liked the designs going back to those of old, but the rest was boring trash. When Bumblebee released it was the sixth best Transformers live action movie out of 6, then again I felt a Bumblebee centered movie would be akin to a Power Rangers centered on Bulk and Skull instead of the Rangers.
@@johnaskins638 wrong
@motometalracer Bumblebee was easily the worst Transformers movie, then again Bumblebee is one of the worst Autobots, let alone Transformer. A movie about Bumblebee like it was makes just as little sense as a Power Rangers movie with a focus on Bulk and Skull, only the Power Rangers movie couldn't be close to as bad as Bumblebee was. Even Transmorphers which is a Transformers knockoff looks like a masterpiece compared to Bumblebee.
@@johnaskins638 wrong again
My heart literally skipped a beat when this video turned up on my for you page
Ugh. Ok
01:24-01:30 Just hope Paramount actually means it
Bumblebee was the best movie in terms of plot, story, character And Great Tactical Fight Cheography. While ROTB wasn’t as succesfull as Bumblebee or the 2007 movie, it at least gave much more screen time to the Transformer Characters and had below mid plot at best and bit more personality to SOME characters. Downsides where
•Cheetor having little to no & Rhinox not having a single piece of dialouge with both not staying still to admire there Robot Mode’s in the final fight
•Battletrap’s name never being mention once
•(This is my personal opinion) but the movie not being as bright, having a much more duler color than the other’s
• Airazor’s death being wasted and not seeing her Robot Mode once
• Fight Cheography not being as tactical as Bumblebee, Optimus magically beating Scourge on his own while he struggled the other two times they fought
•Bumblebee dying yet again only to be brought back to life as well as Mirage (though I did love Bee’s enterance to the Battlefield), but both of there deaths didn’t really have much of an impact
Other than those downsides, I did have a blast wathing the movie during the opening day
who is Battletrap? If you mean the rat Maximal, his name is not Battletrap
who is Battletrap? If you mean the rat Maximal, his name is not Battletrap
@@claudijatzandrapova3347 It’s the Terrorcon that transformed into the GMC Truck, his name was never mentioned once
ROTB had the least Transformers screen time out of all the films tho?
I want bayverse
Ik that story is not even done because Quintessa was walking on the sand unicorn will rise whatever she said
Yes and with sam and the old transformers. Idk I just don't like the new mcu ish transformers movies😢
Bay verse stopped being good after Rotf. Shit seemed forced after that... glad they quit before it went even more off road...
@@dusk202 ignoring tf4 and 5. U think tf 3 was stupid.?
@SubhajyotiGoswami-ui3ks idek if that should have a response. None of the movies were stupid, TF3 was good in it's own way but it seems the narrative was all over the place. Would've been better to have Shockwave in cahoots with Sentinel Prime. Megatron should've been an afterthought since he got his ass beat in 2. Idk whatever the writers were thinking was probably better than what we could've got, maybe... TF4 was OK, but they could throw away 5.
man i guess scourge should return or at least be shown in flashbacks. he was the only reason i saw tf rotb. does anybody agree?
Yes we are going to see Scourge and the Terrorcons Again, because the Terrorcons are more stronger than the Decepticons and even if they are dead and ripped apart they have the ability to revive themselves thats how Unicron created them
@@martinscarstrucksracinggam7057WTF are you talking about no they don't if that was the case they would have been walking around just fine or retreated to unicron before he came through the portal there dead and not coming back so no we will not be seeing them again that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life
How did it flop when it broke a franchise record the first night 😂 and had 100% screen satisfactory
no it didn't
@@guidemuz601 it did tho
It flopped because it grossed the least amount of money out of any film so far,
barely making enough to cover its budget
@@zacharymessner6157 no it didn’t last night did but nice try tho 😭
@@user-gs2hn7bu2c No both literally did
I miss the Bayverse
I love transformers and I even watched it when I was a kid and the movies did make a huge improvement and I would love to see even more transformers movies
Me too.
Yeah I would love to see more movies
I love Transformers, honestly R0TB was good, but in my opinion rebooting the franchise was not a good idea.
Which is why now that ROTB underperformed they’re likely backtracking and going to unite the two as Lorenzo has been saying
Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts really weren't reboots though. Its getting pretty old that people keep saying that. The directors and Hasbro and paramount never said such things that Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts are total reboots. All they said was its another story and that it's fresh but their also preserving what happened with Bays movies and it will not affect the timeline. Fans and online media outlets made that up that Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts were reboots
I’m curious to learn about this new _Enner Gohn_ stuff.
Bumblebee and RoTB was so good.
The worst ones.
You love the two worst movies out of all of them lmao
@@sxd9573 worst were the last knight and AOE
@@sxd9573bumblebee wasn’t bad tho while rotb yeah it was good in my opinion
@@freeamericanthinker558 Last Knight was worst, and the one before Last Knight.
It’s funny all y’all new transformers fans r the only ones who didn’t like ROTB and bumblebee movie because they r the closest thing to what made the franchise
For those who dont know, the G.I. Joe shown in the video is from the 80s/90s, around the same time as transformers. The 60s version would not be used since they werre mainly just toys, no movies
I love to see the Transformers/G.I. Joe crossover movie
Bumblebee 2 and a Beasts War movie is only needed.
Yeah I agree
I just want a Bumblebee WWII movie as it’d be different and probably more interesting than anything else they’d do
TF8, if still set before 2007, might see Megatron held in cryostasis at the Hoover Dam. We may instead see either Tarn or Predacons such as Predaking (as a two-headed dragon) as the main antagonist of this film. We should also see Decepticons Barricade (as a black 1965 Ford Mustang GT fastback), Starscream (as a F/A-18F Super Hornet fighter jet in G1 colors), Fracture (as a modified gray and red 1996 Toyota Soarer), Stunticons including Motormaster (a black and purple Kenworth K1000E), Dragstrip (a modified yellow 1976 Tyrrell P34), Wildrider (a red and black 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition), Breakdown (a matte black 2003 Range Rover Series III Vogue), Dead End (a blue 1967 Plymouth Barracuda fastback), Bottleneck (a red 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am), and Skipjack (a green and red 1973 Dodge Serra Boulevard 3700 GT), and Autobots Prowl (a 1981 Datsun 280ZX Massachusetts State Police cruiser and later a modified black and gold 2003 Nissan Fairlady 350Z), Rally - a newcomer (a modified blue 1998 Subaru Impreza STI 22b), Bumblebee - her mentor (a beat-up yellow and black 1977 Chevrolet Camaro), Wheeljack (now a white and green 1988 Saab 900 Aero Turbo coupe), Ratchet (a Boston EMS ambulance based on the 2003 Hummer H2), and Optimus Prime himself (now a customized red and blue 2001 Freightliner Argosy).
I hope you get a check in the mail from this comment
Bro are you stupid or something bumblebee and rise of the beast are not in the same universe they have no connection to the bay films
@@Ethan-du9fgget a check for what being an idiot bumblebee and rise of the beast are not connected to the bay verse
These aren't prequels...they're reboots.
You expect it to be watched by kids of today but the kids of past love and still loves the bayverse🫶🏻. No cap
Hasbro don't really care if there movies flop, they make most there money in merchandise so introducing new characters with new looks just allows them to make more toys. Personally I loved the last film but I am biased as I just love transformers in general, either way I hope they do continue on there current path as I loved the visuals on the new movies everything is clear( besides getting a clear look at the maximal forms, only saw snippets in battle)
Lol oh please. You think DreamWorks and paramount doesn’t wanna make money?
@@jamesbizs yeah, obviously they do but I'm saying they make more from toy sales and what not than they do from the films. Obviously they want the movies to do well.
Honestly the bayverse was 1000 times better than rise of the beasts. Also, adding GiJoe will just ruin transformers for me and for allot of people. That's the problem with directors, don't fix something that isn't broken. The Bayverse is so much better and I would've loved for them to continue the story onwards.
I'm pretty sure the script is AI generated. No one talks like that
How you know
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 because if it was a real guy he would know it was pronounced like EnerJOHN!
Transformers is literally the first movie i remember watching at my neighbours house
Can we just get a normal Transformers movie
do we even know what that looks like.
If theyre gonna retcon to the 80's, go back to animation. If you're gonna stick with "live action", the Bayverse style is the way to go. The Bayverse idea is what most of us wanted back in the 80s. Transformers you could actually believe existed.
Bay verse was 🔥🔥🔥
I want the Michael bay Optimus Prime model it looks so much better than the current look
Then watch the older movies for that
We need to see Unicron transform. Heck just remake the 1986 film somehow. Update it and bring it into the modern times and slot it somehow into the cinema timeline. I'm sure it could be adopted somehow.
I said the same thing I really hope we get to see him transform and possibly Galvatron
I want Optimus vs Megatron in the Bayverse one last time!
WHO WANTS OLD PRIME MODEL LIK THIS COMMENT
I just like seeing big robot smash and beat each other, fully accepted these are not the movies that get Emmy's and Oscar's, and im fine with it.
I'm "onboard" with what this video is selling, but what confirmation confirms Cobra will be the main threat in Hasbro's Cinematic crossover? It is widely known by Hasbro fans that Cobra (as an organization) and Decepticons aren't the only known Joe-threats.
I think that they should make a Transformers film with the designs of the original 80s series.
Those actors were horrible in rise of the beast, they made meganfox look like platinum actor status. The cgi is video game type not realistic time. Not defending the bayverse, but it did set a standard and the bar high and thats what should be followed
We need to finish the Michael Bay series though, leaving us on a cliffhanger is something absolutely ludacris.
I would like to see in new Transformers Ultra Magnus, i love that bot, it´s shame that we coudn´t see him in bayverse but maybe who knows maybe we will see him now. :D
The funny thing is that rise of the beast was Hasbro's fault 100%. Stephen had a better planned story, but it got scrapped because of Hasbro wanting to stick to the live action movie road map they had. The latest movie wasn't even going to have unicron or the maximals at all.
Energon with the jon sound.
There have always been humans in transformers from the start. For someone to say they only want transformers in the movie doesn't understand the Transformers lore.
Wow rotb flopped?? I thought it was great
It didn’t flop these r all new transformers fans that never watched before bayverse 😂 the movie actually broke records its first night and according to every fan who watched it they liked it 😂
I thought it was good too
Same!!
Bro Rotb was okay at best I want them to bring back the Bayverse. Ik Mark Wahlberg left but bringing back Shia and Megan would be PEAK
Do what ever you want, but everybody knows this is fake...
Why
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 I see all the time things like "Transformers Rise of the Beasts 2023 Trailer", but then, in reality, those videos just reuse clips from the previous Transformers movies, and mix them up with something like Jurassic Park trailers and stuff like that...
IF EVERYTHING WENT AS PLANNED, I'D HAVE A MOVIE FROM MY FAVORITE FRANCHISE THAT WOULD COME OUT ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!!
wonder what years 8 and 9 will take place
Me too what do you think
Imagine if we get G1 Galvatron and ultra magnus that would be dope
I want Bayverse to continue! I don’t think it’s too late. I just think the whole “knight” theme is getting old and I was never really all about it to begin with anyway! Bumblebee was cool, ROTB was fine, but my heart is with the Bayverse movies
Agreed and Lorenzo is still saying they have plans to unite the films
@@zacharymessner6157 Wonder how that’ll work
@@Elite04232 should be interesting
Im sick of Bumble Bee!!! Gimme Hotshot. And be bold and Daring and Give Rodimus Prime or Ultra Magnus a chance to lead
Rise of the beast is an ok movie but a not good movies plus they want to merge with GIJ is the most stupid idea of all
It's not a new idea
It's been done a thousand times
I honestly don’t car of that twist ending.
i want the old bayverse
No you don’t. You’ll just get product placement and idiot characters screaming at each other terrible dialogue
@@davemac9563Finally someone who speaks English around here
Ot had heavy criticism because majority need more Omega 3s. Literally 70% plus of population is lacking it. Omg. Movie was quite good.
Rise of the beat was great movie
Rise of the Beasts was perfect. It was the best Transformers movie yet.
"so forgetable that it quickly faded from memory" what the h😄ll is this dude talking about?! this movie is easily on top with tf 2007 and 2009, Bumblebee is great too but its more like a "bumblebee movie" than a transformers movie. the movie suffered at the Box Office but it is one of the best.
T8 should be about the auto bots along with dino bots rebuilding cybertron!
Not ener-gon. Ener-John.
He lost me after that. I don't think he is a actual transformers fan. But maybe AI
Yeah, that was the final straw that lost him all credibility.
I'm sorry but al we want is the bay verse back. that's what we fell in love with and what started it all. Those are the best looking, best feeling and best overall movies. Give us the bayverse back
Wait did you just said the transformers in bayverse had development? Bruh the only onw with an avtual personality was optimus, bee didnt speak and the rest were just... there. Rise of the beast had actually transformers being chsracters and a step in tbe correct direction, but too ambitious we should scale back, small autobots team and small cons team, classic Optimus V Megatron and a best wars movie which hapoen simultanieously building up an autobot and maximal team up and then a team up vs unicron. The studio has a lot of potential material and this vkdeo jjst showed ZERO knowledge of basic lore. Origin of energon? Its Primus, mentioned in ROTB, so yiu mean the origin of cybertron? Man what a misinformed video. Rotb was cool 6/10, and it is still the best transfor.ers movie we have to the date (bumblebee is a spinoff). So a bit less maximum conflict, less humans less army and GI JOE (for now) and more autobot vs decepticons for 2 movies.
unicron looked like chappie or pathfinder from apex
lmao your best movie couldn't even get past 500 million while the worst bay verse doubled it
They should honestly make a big war movie just about all of the decepticons and the Auto bots in there older forms, it would be a bad ass movie tbh. Like star scream and sound wave and possibly megatron
I dislike Bayformers and am not looking forward to more scrap metal designs, silly puberty jokes, non-stop explosions, glorification of the US military and massive of cliches and stereotypes.
Rotb sucks even more the design doesn't even look realistic it looked like I was watching cartoon with real life humans
I JUST WANT A TRANSFORMERS MOVIE ABOUT CYBERTRON WAR!
All Transformers Fans Must Blame Michael Bay Because its his fault that why he is always Screwing up the Franchise
Mistake always happens
I don't know why they blame him when he's not writing the story. The effect and actions he put into those movies still entertain me til this day.
Movies are flopping cuz Hollywood keeps making the same movies over, over, over. Also movie theaters are becoming old school movie watching, instant streaming at home is the way people want to watch that they can pause for bathroom breaks and snacks you bought cheaper at Wal-Mart.
When will the crossover GI Joe movie happen?
Now Transformers 8 became Transformers One.
Tbh he wants to be a security guard ask Matthew Lillard
Give us Cybertron, transformers, ZERO humans and a story we love
Transformers peaked when Megan Fox left idc what anyone else says
I miss the Bayverse Transformers
💔💔
Ok if bay-verse is so good answer a couple questions and I will believe you , what was the main plot of the bayverse , what was your favorite transformers character moments that wasn’t just an action scene what was their character traits ?
Let me rewatch the movie and I'll get back To you
They were the best films so far, the plot was about Prime’s heroic journey as he comes to trust and defend humans only to be betrayed by them but then eventually accepting Earth as his home all while unwinding the mystery of the history of the transformers and how they came to be
@@zacharymessner6157 that’s all good accept Optimus just slowly goes crazy the other bots barely have character and don’t learn anything really, and the origin of the transformers isn’t resolved at all or done in a way that makes sense it just gets more compounded on contradictions where transformers are haphazardly stitched into history almost randomly like the huge plot hole about them being on earth and part of every major battle in history or every important person in history was covering up as a witwiccan , also name a character moment besides Optimus or a one liner that the transformers where they were more than side characters in their own franchise
energon 💀
Sorry but I don't see it. Its better keep them apart
I’m happy as long as Peter Cullen Voices Optimus Prime
Nothing is gonna make me believe that the next movie is gonna be good. Rotb was so bad, I just refuse to believe the director can do better
The dialogue was awful, and cgi could have been way better.
@@subie0787 yea
I don’t think it was too bad it was mediocre
L
rotb was mid at worst
The worst part about Transformers movies is they are made by people who have no idea wtf Transformers is for people who have no idea wtf Transformers is.
Nobody cares about what actual fans wants. It isn't this.
I liked Rise of the Beasts. Scourge was amazing and badass! The maximals were cool, Pete Davidson playing Mirage was dope, and the new human introduction of Noah was pretty cool.
We just getting old and worse, hardly entertained. I'm sure folks 15 yrs old below enjoyed these films just like we enjoyed TF 1-3 when we were their age. We are just tired to live anymore. Nothing can satisfy us.
I don't care what critics say about Transformers rise of the beast I like it
Why so it so hard to make transformers movies? We want a CONSISTENT plot, memorable voices and characters, minimal humans and believe it or not, transformers. It shouldn’t be that hard