The bonusbaby concept is... Creepy... What the fuck was that about? I don't think it's a bad thing for idols to be and act and look young and innocent, but the groups entire concept being toddlers is really weird, and i don't want to think about what kind of people liked them because of that concept. I feel horrible for the girls.
@@jihoonscarat you absolutely weren't reaching, it's uncomfortable, and I'm glad you talked about how weird Kpop is when it comes to young idols. I always worry when I see kids debut in Kpop groups, because I've seen so so many uncomfortable and creepy things happen.
Because he was already famous due to Produce so it’s easier for him to continue on since he’s already famous. The other groups that were there aren’t doing well
I don't know what they are doing with Jihoon. Jihoon was literally a rival of Daniel in popularity and now Daniel is selling half a million copies without any company in his back and jihoon is... is maroo even trying😕
@@jeonghanscollarbones2186 yeah which makes it even more difficult for him. And jihoon has a company and has gone viral TWICE but the company is just doing the bare minimum in promoting/capitalizing his virality😤
@@iamcute7487 what did he go viral for recently? Also i think maroo is not investing as much on jihoon because his acting seems to be more profitable for them. Plus I'm seeing some toxics bullying him for his body and with the trend of idols in crop tops now, i fear it will be a kyla situation again.
@@havensohn3821 i mean during his produce time and he was also still relevant during wanna one promotions. That's the thing about them only relying on his dramas though because it takes so much time to make a film so he will only have like two to 3 films a year at best. With those dramas he will also have to share the screentime with other cast member not counting if the drama gets cancelled (like Dear.M, the drama keeps on postponing because one main cast was caught in an allegation and the evidence presented were strong so if she really did the allegations the whole movie will be cancelled). Just acting will not help him stay afloat unless he lands a male lead with a very well-known female lead, if that won't happen then he'll maybe just slowly lose his relevancy.
@@havensohn3821 about your last statement, he has a nice body. I am still trying to erase his picture of him flaunting his abs in my mind. He just looks bigger but I think crop tops would actually be in his advantage because he has a nice body. He just doesn't show it that much but he is BUFF😭🤛
Bonus Baby’s song was literally a love that invites child predators and they’re company have profited off of it I’m fucking sick of seeing this happen. I’m sick of seeing these children boy or girl going through this only to later be potentially traumatized by the time they get older and can think for themselves. I hate hearing these stories but they MUST be told for the people that didn’t pay attention the first time,
@- navis - well ig their child works really hard trained from day to nights to debut, so when they actually had a chance if i were their parents i wouldn't have the heart to decline it, as since the concept was "cute" (Yk ofc they wouldn't say anything weird at first) but then when they actually debuted, the song becoming gross but the kid had already works really hard for it, impossible just to ask them to stop as a parent. But it did after the second song maybe they have parents confrontation too that made them disbanded
To me, it seems like Maroo is actually putting in effort (at least a little) for Ghost9. They've released three albums in six months, they're constantly posting on social media, and their TH-cam videos have english subs. I think Maroo sees Ghost9's potential and is riding that wave. Hopefully, they keep it up (as Ghost9 is one of my ult groups) Stan Ghost9
Now I'm worried for GHOST9... They're slowly making a name for themselves and I think SEOUL is their breakout in the industry... Crossing fingers and hoping that Maroo doesn't mess them up like their previous groups
Bouns baby omg they suffered a lot from other videos I watched I recommend doing jellyfish entertainment in the future if you ever run out of company’s to do
And the fact they themselves are reason of failure. Like excepting them to hit big with one song. Then if didn't. Disband. These kinda companies literally should be out of business
@@rosepetal5312 literally there are too many companies debuting idol groups out of nowhere then disbanding them. Years of hardwork if those idols/ trainees wasted. These companies should have enough finance to support their groups for 2 years. Otherwise don't debut .
Maroo has a lot of actors under their company. And it also tends to be actors that have been working under a different company previously, so when they come to Maroo they already have fans and a following. It seems like Maroo are desperate to make a Kpop group bc of kpops success, but just have no idea how to do it. I also feel like promoting a Kpop group is a lot more expensive than promoting an actor, and so they probably just don’t have the funds for proper promotions, which just leads to failure of the group
If it's not too much to ask, can you cover Kang Daniel's story and his company KONNECT. I feel like ifans only know that he's a CEO but didn't realize how hard it was 2019 for him. Please, and I hope you'd research about him as much as you can. Or if you want a terrible company..cover LM, KDs former label.
@@jihoonscarat I dunno it just was so unnatural. Like Red Velvet did it in ICC like the first time. Then MYB did it to obviously try to be similar. It's creepy and makes sense watching the video that the agency was trying to get the group attention in anyway possible. The songs and group were actually good haha.
Imagine saying "they copied RV" like it's the girls themselves who did it and not, I don't know, their company and staff or something. Istg kpop fans can't seem to connect that kpop is an industry.
As a fan of Ghost9 since before debut, and doing a little research about the company plus after watching this video now, its so clear that Maroo Ent does better with managing and promoting boy groups (and soloists obv) but they also clearly "prefer" to have girl groups... what they did to Bonus Baby, MyB, Khan, and everyone else whos lost their dreams is just... sick.
Omg. Sis weighed 92 pounds at her age and height and couldn't weigh over 101.4?! Isn't the recommended weight for 5' 4 people around 108-125??? I remember being 100 pounds in 7th grade🤧
The more I learn about Bonus Baby, the more I lean towards the company purposefully pushed them as "sugar babies." it makes sense, especially in this video, when you hear the adult men cheering when they announce their ages. It's so disturbing.
The only reason I knew about this company were because of Kim Jong Kook, KHAN, and Supernova. This company honestly just dosen't know what they are doing. They have no longevity skills for their groups. Like many fail/bad companies, at the end of the day I feel bad for these kids who just want to debut and that work so hard only for it to be made as a joke by companies that are unrealistic that a debut release didn't go viral/ or make quick money. Edit: that Busters clip was terrifying
Yeah exactly. They've talented artist or rather famous artist but don't know how to handle/ manage them. Which I was very disappointed about. Sometimes I feel that Maroo just treat them as an experiment. I felt that even some of the group which succeeded, they didn't get much much help from the company. Honestly I felt that Maroo never did much to help these artist out there. They just threw artist out there, expecting they'll shine in such a competitive industry. But I did see a little improvement with their promotions with recent artist from their company. But still it's incomparable with the bigger agencies. If the company want to succeed, they should be investing more money and not thinking that if this group can't make it, let's move on to the next. This way, they don't even have time to analyse what's wrong and therefore afford to make the same mistake again on the next group they debut.
bonus baby deserved way better, starting with a concept that wasn't pandering to pedophiles. like, i love them so much but i can't help but think that silently disbanding was in their best interest, especially knowing with yoojin (kongyoo)'s statements about what she went through. also, euna is now an evangelist missionary in training.
Ikr?!! Like theres a way to have a age appropriate concept while pandering to people their age- if companies say that fan meets are filled with middle-age guys instead of their age groups they need to do a serious rebranding
@@kidawesomeness123 oh they already silently disbanded so no need for rebranding. but maroo needs to take a step back and realize how fucked up that was.
I feel like jihoon have done so much for maroo to keep going forward, but still they did not treat him right.... Jihoon is the reason why people know about this company
i've been stanning ghost9 since debut and i had no idea the company had such questionable and problematic history but it seems to me they're managing ghost9 quite well. they're very active on social media, they put out a lot of content like behind the scenes, variety shows and random vlogs, the videos always have english subs and they had released 3 albums since their debut and they're slowly but steadily growing. the only thing that scares me is that maroo might start overworking them but everything seems fine for now
I can relate you. I also had no idea abt Maroo's ex-groups. But now, i know & feel terrible for them. Hope they won't cancel GHOST9 like they did to other groups. I love them soooo much 😭
@@kuromie9708 yeah especially now sure they went on Peaktime and it might have helped but their company may just throw them away especially since it’s been a year since they’ve had a comeback
Moonhee has pretty much given up her idol career and is focusing on acting. Hayoon’s prime years are being wasted with no way out due to contract obligations. Way to go Maroo! You ruined 2 promising young talent who were both aces on Mix Nine.
I'm pretty sure the other members are also on the way to leaving the industry. Kongyoo (former member) is now focusing on her studies and wants to become a music teacher
I will never get over how they failed Khan. They were doing good internationally and the company should have focused on that, should have worked with the girls to get them places.
Other companies push their artists while Maroo expects their idols to push them. When they don't, they get disbanded. But if they do, they siphon as much money as they can from them (as seen in how they shipped Jihoon off to fan meetings as soon as he made his solo debut, making him miss his first win encore stage to ride the lingering Wanna One high) Fingers crossed that Jihoon will be nicely treated.
How are more people not talking about how heartbreaking the trainee's stories about the weighing, not seeing parents and etc. were. Isn't this practically considered child labor in Korea? I know that groups with young members cannot have that member work overtime or else it will be considered child labor. How did this company make them stay till 7 in the morning? And you would think with all this training and pain they put the trainees through, they would at least give them a chance when they're in a group. They just abandon them if the debut song isn't extremely successful? What kind of management is that? I hope they get shut down or something smh.
Euna found peace and happiness in God and Minju still posts dance practices on her insta, I'm happy for Euna, but I've never forgive Maroo for wasting their talent
Well from what I've seen so far Maroo has been treating Ghost9 pretty well although they haven't had a break yet I'm hoping after this comeback they can get one. Also, I hope that they can change and get better in the future after what they done the past for they sake of the artists at least.
judging from this video alone maroo has really good quality in terms of groups,, the choreographies are engaging, the dancers are in sync and skilled, the songs and music videos have great production but as you said longevity seems to be their issue. These trainees are really talented in dancing and singing so seeing how the company just lets them flop is saddening.
Maroo Ent disbanded so many groups.I was gonna stan MyB and Khan but both disbanded. I'm still worried for Jihoon because he signed up with them.Everything seems fine with him for now tho.
As someone who has been following khan since their debut I clicked as soon as I read the title it's so sad the way this company works and neglects their idols also, I might be wrong but I think that last year, on Instagram, Euna once mentioned that she was mad (at something related to maroo) but she couldn't speak due to the contract, and she hinted that when it ends she might tell us what has been going on
I think the worst thing is that their idols have amazing songs the debuts are super good(well I like most of them especially because I'm your girl and I'm your girl) Companies need to stop wasting idols time and talent.
Maroo ent. can't even manage a girl group right and i'm sad that the girls potential was wasted in that company . I hope when they will debut a new girl group will give them proper care and not letting them into the dust and i also hope for ghost9 to become more famous
I don't know why they would debut a group with all the same hair color. I would understand why if it was their natural hair color, but all blonde???... That should have been for a comeback or something. Not when MyB were rookies and people are trying to decipher them🤦🏾♀️
Honestly that's what drew me in, I found the concept very interesting and something unusual and I know it drew a few other people in as well so I don't really see a that big problem with it.
@@wendyg.5389 well, b.a.p also had this concept where they were supposedly aliens and they acted like that even in interviews and behind-the-scenes content. myb were just funky with bleach-blonde hair.
i used to really like bonusbaby when i was like 14 and i remember finding the name of the group weird and the outfits too but I didn’t know it was that bad 🤢🤢 i feel horrible for the former members
this is so sad, i really enjoy gosth9, but now that i see this i wonder how the members are being treated, and i feel sad in a way that indirectly im supporting a company that made all these horrible things to their artists
yea i totally understand that feeling. from what i can tell they are doing a lot better than with past groups but of course we dont know what goes on by closed doors
i didn't even know ghost9 were part of maroo ent. i was thinking of stanning them but im not sure ab it considering maroo ent's history of disbanding groups.
I discovered ghost9 with think of dawn but i didnt keep up very much with them besides music, so I had no idea they were under maroo. It makes me worried about their future tbh, and I also find weird that they pushed out 3 cbs in such a short amount of time? The song Seoul really didn't do it for me. I hope they don't burn out like the previous poor ggs under maroo :/
I think it's not that weird to already have 3 album in 6 months... I mean... Look at Treasure ... They already have 4 albums within 1 years... And both groups debuted around the same time (with around 1 month difference).. And I think... The company kinda treat them well... Their company invested lots of money to make their debut and comeback... But lets still pray Maroo will not treat them the same as the previous groups 😔
@@maimaiyonnise_ I didn't like Treasure's marketing strategy either haha I guess this type of content-producing isn't for me (although i do like ghost9 songs) But yeah I hope maroo are getting better at managing their groups now!
Also forgot to say the blonde hair reminded me of bap debut song warrior the two are very very different concept but they all have there members hair dyed blonde
just a suggestion, but can u maybe sometimes talk about companies that are actually wholesome and good...? (if any lol) I feel like most kpop TH-camrs only talk about bad companies....or are there really no good companies....?
That’s a good question/suggestion. Most companies I know of aren’t too good. I’ve talked about C9 and how they helped their girl group get a second chance (cignature/good day) but I can for sure look more into it
With Bonus Baby, I said the same thing under a TWICE video, how it’s strange the girls act very innocent and childlike, and how older men make up like 90% of their live shows in response to it. Nobody wants to see the issue with that.
And I’m not saying older men can’t like girl groups like TWICE, it’s just strange and creepy as hell when they go for these girl groups BECAUSE they look and sound like children.
@@privateeye7383 with the difference that groups like GFriend, TWICE, APRIL who started off with pure and/or quirky concepts slowly changed into other concepts but still being age-appropriate. BONUSBaby stuck to that one concept, which only made the girls super uncomfortable
I miss myB a lot. I'm still not over their disbandment. A part of me will always hate the kpop community who ignored them while they had such great songs and music videos and concepts. Or at least the way they were unnoticed. SO unfair.
Love this video, I was hoping you would bring up that Lee Yoojung went on Idol School before going in API. I also suggest doing a video about the disaster of Idol School like woof
@@Hikarahime definitely, most idol school contestants were talented too but the songs chosen were pretty much made to make them look terrible. ah-choo is too high pitched for most intermediate singers (which was the target for contestants) to sing. rookie is pretty much impossible to sing without sounding annoying. separating vocal and dance evaluations into “beginner” and “advanced” teams is literally just putting all the lacking performers together and not letting their more advanced teammates help them learn. and then, to top it all off, it was completely rigged.
Maroo sounds like a compulsive gambler betting the rent money on one throw of the dice. For the artists signing with Maroo is like playing Russian roulette with a six shooter and five chambers have bullets. Still bitter that Minju & Euna suffered the same "one song and done" fate twice as The Ark and Khan. You didn't mention one of the stupidest things I've heard a company tell a rookie group. After I'm Your Girl? Khan's fans kept asking two questions: when is the comeback and what's the name for the fandom? They would dodge the comeback question and ask us to wait but Euna frankly told us that the company said they couldn't have a fan club or a fandom name until they had more fans. Slapping a group's fans in the face is a hell of a way for a company to build a fandom. That was the moment I realized Khan was in trouble but I held out hope until Euna finally asked us to please stop asking them about a comeback. Euna is working for a religious mission in Arizona so her kpop career appears to be over regardless of her contract status with Maroo. Minju made a guest appearance to perform a duet with The Ark's Yujin on the tv show Miss Back last year but as far as I know she hasn't shown any signs of pursuing her music career. Sad, cruel waste of talent.
The Ark was really screwed up! Fortunately, Yujin managed to make big steps forward with her solo career thanks to The Voice of Korea and Miss Back! She truly deserves it. About the others, however, I'm worried. As we know that Euna is likely to have left the industry and Minju's future is uncertain, what about Suji and Jane, though? Quite little is known about their current whereabouts. They were in Real Girls Project, Suji was in UNI.T, and then?
This is spot on. Maroo Entertainment is literally a real life gambler-style company who just tried to put a number of betting chips in several block and bet with it.
As much as I am scared and dislike Maroon Ent., my love for Ghost9 is giant and I pray that Maroon doesn't fail them AS MUCH as the other groups. Please. Am PRAYING.
Ok so I never knew the company name but I actually know and love all of these groups. Wtf? This is the same company? They are the worst at supporting and keeping groups active and thriving.
They just announced 2 members would be leaving Ghost9: Taesung and Dongjun. I wonder if they’ll get replaced. I hope Maroo isn’t trying to hide anything especially like TS did with TRCNG. I have a feeling the boys are being mistreated behind closed doors which I hope and pray isn’t the case. I doubt Maroo still hasn’t learned.
I feel like they'll add two new members so that their name keeps making sense, otherwise they'd have to change it... Still, I don't think adding new members to replace Dongjun and Taeseung will fix things. The remaining guys will have to fight harder to mark their path down the industry
I remember when Myb debuted and their comment section was flooded with people comparing them RV bc of ICC, but after a while people started to like the group and stopped comparing them and suddenly they disbanded
It’s crazy because I don’t follow this company as closely as I do with others like SM. I was a fan of Wanna One when they were active, but after they disbanded, it became harder for me to keep up with all of the members respective activities, so I had no idea about the stuff that was happening with Jihoon and his company in general.
They’re gonna shut down one day, Jihoon don’t get the recognition he deserves, he does a couple promotions with his music then, stops. 6 months later he comes out on a tv Show and then disappears again. This guy is talented but they don’t promote him as much as they should. He deserves more 😢
I remember planning to stan 1ps back then i literally searched the members teaser photos and searching for their song back on Junior High. Whew the memories of being a new kpopp fan lol
For the people saying that their are promoting ghost9 well, maroo is doing the bare minimum. Last comeback should have been promoted better. It wasn’t promoted at all. That should have been the focus rather than making another comeback. We got Seoul months after the last comeback, overworking them rather then promoting the last cb. We feel like we are getting a lot of content bcs in the last one they got no promotion.
Kinda frustrated on MyB's disbandment (back in 2015 I was so excited whats next after Ddoddo) but I guess I would understand why Maroo had to let them go, they were not selling that well and as a company... Why would I invest on something where there is no gain? I dont know if Maroo did failed them for not promoting or its just that the general consumer/public doesn't like them (That ghastly physical sales tho... Its heartbreaking.)
Most groups from small companies don't break out that fast though. Secret flopped with their debut, but thanks to Sunhwa getting a good opportunity on Invincible Youth they gained attention and their next song did great. Maroo could have easily gotten Moonhee some sort of promotion to gain attention, but they don't even try. They expect immediate fame.
So I was around when MyB debuted and the vitriole was STRONG. Because they were all blonde and five members, people accused them of copying Red Velvet, who had just had their smash hit Ice Cream Cake with five blonde members. People were spamming the video comments, booing their stages... it was so sad. Edit: I have now watched the rest of the video lol thanks for covering it
So basically this company was known for all the unknown groups. I think it's crazy that I've been a kpop fan since 2008, but hadn't heard of any of the groups under this company... Only ones I knew of were The Ark and Khan but both only after they had already disbanded, and had a member appear on The Unit and got into Uni.T. I actually know of and really like Ghost9's songs and B-sides. I hope they can keep going. And of course, Jihoon also has pretty good songs too, but yeah he could be doing so much more right now if we are going to compare him with Kang Daniel's rate of promotions. I think this company, like many other companies, is terrible with handling girl groups.
There REALLY needs to be an age restriction for idols to debut and set foot in for a disgusting type of audience. I thought 16 was too young, but oh man, there are idols who debut as young as 12. No Just no
The clip of the men cheering for the 14 year old says everything about what needs to change about the industry. Being excited that someone is naive and undeveloped is a sign of weak character
could you do a video on GWSN’s current condition? while we as fans are pretty sure their next comeback is soon, they took quite a hit in october as their creative director that helped conceptualize their storyline left the company. i’m pretty sure the comeback was supposed to be in october, but it’s almost april now, and gwsn mentioned the comeback itself in december of 2020. if you could, a video on their situation would help a lot.
That clip where they said their age and the 14 year old girl got the loudest cheers really disgusted me....
Agreed. Notice not many people talked about that in the comments
What time is that? I didn't notice cause I'm doing something.
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@@MissyO_o Thank you. :)
@@eleventwelve2650 np :)
MyB’s disbandment was so disappointing, they made such great songs and had such great choreography.
I fell in love with their songs as I was working on this video. Makes me so sad that Maroo failed them
Me too. I was ready to invest and stan them but yea. :(
They seemed really good and it's sad they disbanded so soon.
MyB songs are still my jam👉👈❤
DDODDO was so fun, and I really loved the 80's aesthetic and vibe.They were going for their music!
They gave up, and they were punished for it.
The bonusbaby concept is... Creepy... What the fuck was that about? I don't think it's a bad thing for idols to be and act and look young and innocent, but the groups entire concept being toddlers is really weird, and i don't want to think about what kind of people liked them because of that concept. I feel horrible for the girls.
im so glad im not the only person who thought that way. i felt kind of uncomfortable but i wasn't sure if i was just reaching with this
@@jihoonscarat you absolutely weren't reaching, it's uncomfortable, and I'm glad you talked about how weird Kpop is when it comes to young idols. I always worry when I see kids debut in Kpop groups, because I've seen so so many uncomfortable and creepy things happen.
Wow... Park Jihoon took a huge risk signing with this agency. But, it seems everything has been great for him, that is nice
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Because he was already famous due to Produce so it’s easier for him to continue on since he’s already famous. The other groups that were there aren’t doing well
@해바라기명시은 kim jungkook or jeon jungkook.???
@@CarlaJageryearsago obviously not jeon jungkook lol
@@dandelino_ yeah not jeon jungkook👁👄👁
I don't know what they are doing with Jihoon. Jihoon was literally a rival of Daniel in popularity and now Daniel is selling half a million copies without any company in his back and jihoon is... is maroo even trying😕
daniel has his own company, if i'm not mistaken
@@jeonghanscollarbones2186 yeah which makes it even more difficult for him. And jihoon has a company and has gone viral TWICE but the company is just doing the bare minimum in promoting/capitalizing his virality😤
@@iamcute7487 what did he go viral for recently? Also i think maroo is not investing as much on jihoon because his acting seems to be more profitable for them. Plus I'm seeing some toxics bullying him for his body and with the trend of idols in crop tops now, i fear it will be a kyla situation again.
@@havensohn3821 i mean during his produce time and he was also still relevant during wanna one promotions.
That's the thing about them only relying on his dramas though because it takes so much time to make a film so he will only have like two to 3 films a year at best. With those dramas he will also have to share the screentime with other cast member not counting if the drama gets cancelled (like Dear.M, the drama keeps on postponing because one main cast was caught in an allegation and the evidence presented were strong so if she really did the allegations the whole movie will be cancelled). Just acting will not help him stay afloat unless he lands a male lead with a very well-known female lead, if that won't happen then he'll maybe just slowly lose his relevancy.
@@havensohn3821 about your last statement, he has a nice body. I am still trying to erase his picture of him flaunting his abs in my mind. He just looks bigger but I think crop tops would actually be in his advantage because he has a nice body. He just doesn't show it that much but he is BUFF😭🤛
Bonus Baby’s song was literally a love that invites child predators and they’re company have profited off of it I’m fucking sick of seeing this happen. I’m sick of seeing these children boy or girl going through this only to later be potentially traumatized by the time they get older and can think for themselves. I hate hearing these stories but they MUST be told for the people that didn’t pay attention the first time,
im so glad im not the only person who noticed that! i thought maybe i was reaching
which song? i didnt get that from either of their title tracks
@@quaggotoak i talked about it in the video
@@quaggotoak In this Video it's at 11:11
@- navis - well ig their child works really hard trained from day to nights to debut, so when they actually had a chance if i were their parents i wouldn't have the heart to decline it, as since the concept was "cute" (Yk ofc they wouldn't say anything weird at first) but then when they actually debuted, the song becoming gross but the kid had already works really hard for it, impossible just to ask them to stop as a parent. But it did after the second song maybe they have parents confrontation too that made them disbanded
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about bonusbaby’s disturbing lyrics
me too!!
Just the name of the group alone sounds sus af, paired with the concept too 🤦♀️ scary.
the name, concept, and outfits are sus- but the lyrics seem like a basic cute concept
@@ranishiiswife349 “when I become an adult” 😬 Uh ok
Maybe im naive but what is the sus part about their name?
This company is pretty messed up, they should treat their artists better.
To me, it seems like Maroo is actually putting in effort (at least a little) for Ghost9. They've released three albums in six months, they're constantly posting on social media, and their TH-cam videos have english subs. I think Maroo sees Ghost9's potential and is riding that wave. Hopefully, they keep it up (as Ghost9 is one of my ult groups) Stan Ghost9
i completely agree. hopefully maroo has finally learned
They haven't learned anything. Female trainees are thrown under the bus.
may I ask how long have you been a kpop fan ??
@@nicolemontcadadupont935 if you're asking me, i've been into kpop since 2009-2010 but fell deeper into the rabbit hole around 2014-2015
@@nicolemontcadadupont935 I've been a fan since 2018 :)
Now I'm worried for GHOST9... They're slowly making a name for themselves and I think SEOUL is their breakout in the industry... Crossing fingers and hoping that Maroo doesn't mess them up like their previous groups
same like this was my first thought
If anything happens to ghost9 I am flying to korea and beating maroo entertainment's ass offf
let’s support ghost9 a lot :,( i can’t imagine anything bad happening to them 😭
@@Jd-hs8zb yessss...sameee😭
@@zeba__1234 then i will go with you for sure!!! Ghost9 deserves the world
Bouns baby omg they suffered a lot from other videos I watched I recommend doing jellyfish entertainment in the future if you ever run out of company’s to do
I want to talk about them sometime in the future !
Can you send the link of the video?
With so many failures, I'm surprised they are still in business.
And the fact they themselves are reason of failure. Like excepting them to hit big with one song. Then if didn't. Disband. These kinda companies literally should be out of business
there should be way more regulations for the idol industry. whats wrong with koreas government and human rights??
@@rosepetal5312 literally there are too many companies debuting idol groups out of nowhere then disbanding them. Years of hardwork if those idols/ trainees wasted. These companies should have enough finance to support their groups for 2 years. Otherwise don't debut .
Maroo has a lot of actors under their company. And it also tends to be actors that have been working under a different company previously, so when they come to Maroo they already have fans and a following. It seems like Maroo are desperate to make a Kpop group bc of kpops success, but just have no idea how to do it. I also feel like promoting a Kpop group is a lot more expensive than promoting an actor, and so they probably just don’t have the funds for proper promotions, which just leads to failure of the group
I'm still crying over The Ark and KHAN
Same :(
same
If it's not too much to ask, can you cover Kang Daniel's story and his company KONNECT. I feel like ifans only know that he's a CEO but didn't realize how hard it was 2019 for him. Please, and I hope you'd research about him as much as you can.
Or if you want a terrible company..cover LM, KDs former label.
i can try sometime for sure! thank you for asking
I would like to see that
Oh my god. MYB I literally forgot them. I loved the creepy all blonde concept haha
lmao creepy 😂
@@jihoonscarat I dunno it just was so unnatural. Like Red Velvet did it in ICC like the first time. Then MYB did it to obviously try to be similar. It's creepy and makes sense watching the video that the agency was trying to get the group attention in anyway possible. The songs and group were actually good haha.
ah yeah I get what you mean
@@jihoonscarat plus like if you knew a group of friends who all had the same dyed hair color. You would think it was creepy.
MyB aka MyBlondies hahha
Imagine saying "they copied RV" like it's the girls themselves who did it and not, I don't know, their company and staff or something. Istg kpop fans can't seem to connect that kpop is an industry.
Bonus Baby's logo was not it. Those poor girls- 😭🤭
As a fan of Ghost9 since before debut, and doing a little research about the company plus after watching this video now, its so clear that Maroo Ent does better with managing and promoting boy groups (and soloists obv) but they also clearly "prefer" to have girl groups... what they did to Bonus Baby, MyB, Khan, and everyone else whos lost their dreams is just... sick.
And The Ark
Welp that went well Ghost9 lost 2 members and had only 1 comeback in 2022
i passed the first round of their audition, and i’m SO GLAD u made this vid bc i would have had no idea what i was getting into 😫🙏🏻
Omg no wayyy😳
Gurl runnnnn. And always do research of a company and their groups first!
if you debut in a group tell us when in order to support you ok?
@@night756 omg stop you’re too kind 😭❤️
@@BBFG-vq5yu good luck on whatever you do and don't give up❤
i myself will personally make sure ur group doesnt flop,,, i will by all the albums and stream all the songs if i must
Omg. Sis weighed 92 pounds at her age and height and couldn't weigh over 101.4?! Isn't the recommended weight for 5' 4 people around 108-125???
I remember being 100 pounds in 7th grade🤧
chile i was 100 pounds in the 3rd grade
@@ranishiiswife349 righr
The more I learn about Bonus Baby, the more I lean towards the company purposefully pushed them as "sugar babies." it makes sense, especially in this video, when you hear the adult men cheering when they announce their ages. It's so disturbing.
Those were members of a different group, not bonus baby
Unknown agencies should have enough money to support a group and consistent comebacks for at least 3 years before they expect the group to make profit
The only reason I knew about this company were because of Kim Jong Kook, KHAN, and Supernova.
This company honestly just dosen't know what they are doing. They have no longevity skills for their groups.
Like many fail/bad companies, at the end of the day I feel bad for these kids who just want to debut and that work so hard only for it to be made as a joke by companies that are unrealistic that a debut release didn't go viral/ or make quick money.
Edit: that Busters clip was terrifying
Yeah exactly. They've talented artist or rather famous artist but don't know how to handle/ manage them. Which I was very disappointed about. Sometimes I feel that Maroo just treat them as an experiment. I felt that even some of the group which succeeded, they didn't get much much help from the company. Honestly I felt that Maroo never did much to help these artist out there. They just threw artist out there, expecting they'll shine in such a competitive industry. But I did see a little improvement with their promotions with recent artist from their company. But still it's incomparable with the bigger agencies. If the company want to succeed, they should be investing more money and not thinking that if this group can't make it, let's move on to the next. This way, they don't even have time to analyse what's wrong and therefore afford to make the same mistake again on the next group they debut.
bonus baby deserved way better, starting with a concept that wasn't pandering to pedophiles. like, i love them so much but i can't help but think that silently disbanding was in their best interest, especially knowing with yoojin (kongyoo)'s statements about what she went through.
also, euna is now an evangelist missionary in training.
Ikr?!! Like theres a way to have a age appropriate concept while pandering to people their age- if companies say that fan meets are filled with middle-age guys instead of their age groups they need to do a serious rebranding
@@kidawesomeness123 oh they already silently disbanded so no need for rebranding. but maroo needs to take a step back and realize how fucked up that was.
@@user-nd5lg2rj2j soooo AWKWARD
They don't deserve shit. They're literally promoting ped0philia. wtf is wrong with you
@@humaur5469 the GIRLS deserve better. the fuck is wrong with you?
Geez they debuted so many groups in such a short amount of time
I feel like jihoon have done so much for maroo to keep going forward, but still they did not treat him right.... Jihoon is the reason why people know about this company
i've been stanning ghost9 since debut and i had no idea the company had such questionable and problematic history but it seems to me they're managing ghost9 quite well. they're very active on social media, they put out a lot of content like behind the scenes, variety shows and random vlogs, the videos always have english subs and they had released 3 albums since their debut and they're slowly but steadily growing. the only thing that scares me is that maroo might start overworking them but everything seems fine for now
I can relate you. I also had no idea abt Maroo's ex-groups. But now, i know & feel terrible for them. Hope they won't cancel GHOST9 like they did to other groups. I love them soooo much 😭
Well this didn't age well
@@kuromie9708 yeah especially now sure they went on Peaktime and it might have helped but their company may just throw them away especially since it’s been a year since they’ve had a comeback
Moonhee has pretty much given up her idol career and is focusing on acting. Hayoon’s prime years are being wasted with no way out due to contract obligations. Way to go Maroo! You ruined 2 promising young talent who were both aces on Mix Nine.
I'm pretty sure the other members are also on the way to leaving the industry. Kongyoo (former member) is now focusing on her studies and wants to become a music teacher
I miss Moonhee🥺😔
the fact Jihoon didn't even promote his DEBUT song is so messed up
I will never get over how they failed Khan. They were doing good internationally and the company should have focused on that, should have worked with the girls to get them places.
Other companies push their artists while Maroo expects their idols to push them. When they don't, they get disbanded. But if they do, they siphon as much money as they can from them (as seen in how they shipped Jihoon off to fan meetings as soon as he made his solo debut, making him miss his first win encore stage to ride the lingering Wanna One high) Fingers crossed that Jihoon will be nicely treated.
How are more people not talking about how heartbreaking the trainee's stories about the weighing, not seeing parents and etc. were. Isn't this practically considered child labor in Korea? I know that groups with young members cannot have that member work overtime or else it will be considered child labor. How did this company make them stay till 7 in the morning? And you would think with all this training and pain they put the trainees through, they would at least give them a chance when they're in a group. They just abandon them if the debut song isn't extremely successful? What kind of management is that? I hope they get shut down or something smh.
Euna Kim actually went back to US already and most unlikely have stayed in Maroo Entertainment.
yeah i personally she isnt under the company but it also might be hard for her to leave since she is under a contract
But one thing is that Maroo had removed her from the Webpage. So I guess she might not be under the company anymore.
Euna found peace and happiness in God and Minju still posts dance practices on her insta, I'm happy for Euna, but I've never forgive Maroo for wasting their talent
You’re literally my favourite k-tuber 🥺😍
Awh thank you so much
Well from what I've seen so far Maroo has been treating Ghost9 pretty well although they haven't had a break yet I'm hoping after this comeback they can get one. Also, I hope that they can change and get better in the future after what they done the past for they sake of the artists at least.
Bonusbaby concept was disugsting and disturbing, the intention is sexualized young kids
i was waiting on this because i LOVED myB and wished maroo would have tried harder with them.
I still miss MyB and Khan, they were so good 😭
judging from this video alone maroo has really good quality in terms of groups,, the choreographies are engaging, the dancers are in sync and skilled, the songs and music videos have great production but as you said longevity seems to be their issue. These trainees are really talented in dancing and singing so seeing how the company just lets them flop is saddening.
Maroo Ent disbanded so many groups.I was gonna stan MyB and Khan but both disbanded. I'm still worried for Jihoon because he signed up with them.Everything seems fine with him for now tho.
As someone who has been following khan since their debut I clicked as soon as I read the title
it's so sad the way this company works and neglects their idols
also, I might be wrong but I think that last year, on Instagram, Euna once mentioned that she was mad (at something related to maroo) but she couldn't speak due to the contract, and she hinted that when it ends she might tell us what has been going on
disappointed but not surprised tbh companies always have their downsides no company is perfect
Khan was so GOOD I miss them and MyB.
Khan needs to return, the girls are so talentEd
I think the worst thing is that their idols have amazing songs the debuts are super good(well I like most of them especially because I'm your girl and I'm your girl) Companies need to stop wasting idols time and talent.
Maroo ent. can't even manage a girl group right and i'm sad that the girls potential was wasted in that company . I hope when they will debut a new girl group will give them proper care and not letting them into the dust and i also hope for ghost9 to become more famous
I don't know why they would debut a group with all the same hair color. I would understand why if it was their natural hair color, but all blonde???...
That should have been for a comeback or something. Not when MyB were rookies and people are trying to decipher them🤦🏾♀️
Honestly that's what drew me in, I found the concept very interesting and something unusual and I know it drew a few other people in as well so I don't really see a that big problem with it.
BAP had this concept at debut too if I remember correctly. It worked out very well for them....back then.
@@wendyg.5389 well, b.a.p also had this concept where they were supposedly aliens and they acted like that even in interviews and behind-the-scenes content. myb were just funky with bleach-blonde hair.
I will always miss Khan:( Im your girl? is still one of my favorite songs
child, i was rooting for myB so hard and then boom, they were gone 😭
BONUSbaby is my favorite group ever! I was so sad when they disbanded
I feel like ghost9 is going to do great
damn.
Hi, so can you please do a video about the history of the girl group, Stellar next?
Hey! I want to make a video on that very soon. Hopefully in my next few uploads 💕
yessss make a video on stellar they're super underrated
@@jihoonscarat could you do BESTie or Dalshabet as well!!!
they are both on my list of topics so hopefully i can get to them soon
@@jihoonscarat u must be working hard then
i used to really like bonusbaby when i was like 14 and i remember finding the name of the group weird and the outfits too but I didn’t know it was that bad 🤢🤢 i feel horrible for the former members
this is so sad, i really enjoy gosth9, but now that i see this i wonder how the members are being treated, and i feel sad in a way that indirectly im supporting a company that made all these horrible things to their artists
yea i totally understand that feeling. from what i can tell they are doing a lot better than with past groups but of course we dont know what goes on by closed doors
i didn't even know ghost9 were part of maroo ent. i was thinking of stanning them but im not sure ab it considering maroo ent's history of disbanding groups.
so far they seem to be doing okay. even thought maroo is not the greatest company you can still support the boys x
I discovered ghost9 with think of dawn but i didnt keep up very much with them besides music, so I had no idea they were under maroo. It makes me worried about their future tbh, and I also find weird that they pushed out 3 cbs in such a short amount of time? The song Seoul really didn't do it for me. I hope they don't burn out like the previous poor ggs under maroo :/
I think it's not that weird to already have 3 album in 6 months... I mean... Look at Treasure ... They already have 4 albums within 1 years... And both groups debuted around the same time (with around 1 month difference)..
And I think... The company kinda treat them well... Their company invested lots of money to make their debut and comeback... But lets still pray Maroo will not treat them the same as the previous groups 😔
@@maimaiyonnise_ I didn't like Treasure's marketing strategy either haha I guess this type of content-producing isn't for me (although i do like ghost9 songs)
But yeah I hope maroo are getting better at managing their groups now!
I miss Teen Teen I wish they continued that group (I really loved their concept) 😔
I loved MYB, I hate this company so much
Also forgot to say the blonde hair reminded me of bap debut song warrior the two are very very different concept but they all have there members hair dyed blonde
Congrats to Jihoon for Another music show win! Well deserved 👏
just a suggestion, but can u maybe sometimes talk about companies that are actually wholesome and good...? (if any lol) I feel like most kpop TH-camrs only talk about bad companies....or are there really no good companies....?
That’s a good question/suggestion. Most companies I know of aren’t too good. I’ve talked about C9 and how they helped their girl group get a second chance (cignature/good day) but I can for sure look more into it
@@jihoonscarat there are some good companies but they’re ran by idols themselves so I don’t think that would really count
@@jihoonscarat or maybe analyzing companies that are able to promote their artists well while pointing out their shortcomings ?
@@jihoonscarat how about Ateez 's company KQ? They didn't screw up nothing big so far, and they have been very protective of Mingi with his anxiety!
that's a good idea. im gonna have to look into that
With Bonus Baby, I said the same thing under a TWICE video, how it’s strange the girls act very innocent and childlike, and how older men make up like 90% of their live shows in response to it. Nobody wants to see the issue with that.
And I’m not saying older men can’t like girl groups like TWICE, it’s just strange and creepy as hell when they go for these girl groups BECAUSE they look and sound like children.
@@privateeye7383 with the difference that groups like GFriend, TWICE, APRIL who started off with pure and/or quirky concepts slowly changed into other concepts but still being age-appropriate. BONUSBaby stuck to that one concept, which only made the girls super uncomfortable
I miss myB a lot. I'm still not over their disbandment. A part of me will always hate the kpop community who ignored them while they had such great songs and music videos and concepts. Or at least the way they were unnoticed. SO unfair.
Love this video, I was hoping you would bring up that Lee Yoojung went on Idol School before going in API. I also suggest doing a video about the disaster of Idol School like woof
i hate mnet for setting up all the idol school contestants for failure
Yeah, Idol School was not it, but I think fromis 9 turned out well
@@Hikarahime definitely, most idol school contestants were talented too but the songs chosen were pretty much made to make them look terrible. ah-choo is too high pitched for most intermediate singers (which was the target for contestants) to sing. rookie is pretty much impossible to sing without sounding annoying. separating vocal and dance evaluations into “beginner” and “advanced” teams is literally just putting all the lacking performers together and not letting their more advanced teammates help them learn. and then, to top it all off, it was completely rigged.
@@Hikarahime yeah, apart from the fromis_9 members, only a few contestants managed to make it big or at least be middle-tier artists
Maroo sounds like a compulsive gambler betting the rent money on one throw of the dice. For the artists signing with Maroo is like playing Russian roulette with a six shooter and five chambers have bullets.
Still bitter that Minju & Euna suffered the same "one song and done" fate twice as The Ark and Khan. You didn't mention one of the stupidest things I've heard a company tell a rookie group. After I'm Your Girl? Khan's fans kept asking two questions: when is the comeback and what's the name for the fandom? They would dodge the comeback question and ask us to wait but Euna frankly told us that the company said they couldn't have a fan club or a fandom name until they had more fans. Slapping a group's fans in the face is a hell of a way for a company to build a fandom. That was the moment I realized Khan was in trouble but I held out hope until Euna finally asked us to please stop asking them about a comeback. Euna is working for a religious mission in Arizona so her kpop career appears to be over regardless of her contract status with Maroo. Minju made a guest appearance to perform a duet with The Ark's Yujin on the tv show Miss Back last year but as far as I know she hasn't shown any signs of pursuing her music career. Sad, cruel waste of talent.
The Ark was really screwed up! Fortunately, Yujin managed to make big steps forward with her solo career thanks to The Voice of Korea and Miss Back! She truly deserves it.
About the others, however, I'm worried. As we know that Euna is likely to have left the industry and Minju's future is uncertain, what about Suji and Jane, though? Quite little is known about their current whereabouts. They were in Real Girls Project, Suji was in UNI.T, and then?
This is spot on. Maroo Entertainment is literally a real life gambler-style company who just tried to put a number of betting chips in several block and bet with it.
UPDATE: Jane debuted as a soloist last year, and Suji seems to be pursuing an acting career
As much as I am scared and dislike Maroon Ent., my love for Ghost9 is giant and I pray that Maroon doesn't fail them AS MUCH as the other groups. Please. Am PRAYING.
g-won from myB is now redebuting in the group Witchers with the stage name Saebom!
omg thank you for the update ! I didn’t know she was in that group! I’m so happy for her
damn i'm about to stan ghost9 and i didn't know much about this company, hope it goes well for them
Ok so I never knew the company name but I actually know and love all of these groups. Wtf? This is the same company? They are the worst at supporting and keeping groups active and thriving.
Ikr 😭 all of their songs also such a bop, but maroo just ruined them 💔
Monhee would be a top visual in Kpop
I hope they won’t Fail Ghost9 I love them sm and they keep getting more recognition so I hope Maroo will work harder this time :/
They just announced 2 members would be leaving Ghost9: Taesung and Dongjun. I wonder if they’ll get replaced. I hope Maroo isn’t trying to hide anything especially like TS did with TRCNG. I have a feeling the boys are being mistreated behind closed doors which I hope and pray isn’t the case. I doubt Maroo still hasn’t learned.
I’m honestly not surprised at all
@@jihoonscarat same like I feel like Maroo is hiding something
Yea I agree 100%
I feel like they'll add two new members so that their name keeps making sense, otherwise they'd have to change it... Still, I don't think adding new members to replace Dongjun and Taeseung will fix things. The remaining guys will have to fight harder to mark their path down the industry
@@mariadiallo5786 yep. But u know how Maroo is
Teen teen just a sub unit from a group ghost 9
Yeah
I really like ghost9 🥺🖐
I hope they get what they deserve
I remember when Myb debuted and their comment section was flooded with people comparing them RV bc of ICC, but after a while people started to like the group and stopped comparing them and suddenly they disbanded
We are fed well ✨
Thank you ☺️
You’re so welcome
Jihoon should be more popular to what he achieved in the past. Maroo ain't promoting him as they should. They should do better for him honestly.
myb and the ark deserved better, the ark didn't even do bad for being under a basically unknown company with zero to no promotion
Just came back to say two members of Ghost9 left the group. I looked up their company and sure enough, Maroo Entertainment popped up.
It’s crazy because I don’t follow this company as closely as I do with others like SM. I was a fan of Wanna One when they were active, but after they disbanded, it became harder for me to keep up with all of the members respective activities, so I had no idea about the stuff that was happening with Jihoon and his company in general.
If something happens to ghost9, I will fight someone
So much debuting and disbanding , holy shit! This company seems so disorganized!
They’re gonna shut down one day, Jihoon don’t get the recognition he deserves, he does a couple promotions with his music then, stops. 6 months later he comes out on a tv Show and then disappears again. This guy is talented but they don’t promote him as much as they should. He deserves more 😢
:( it's not fair all these people put in all this effort to little to no success
OMG YIYEON I had no idea everyone Stan BVNDIT
Same I was so surprised
I remember planning to stan 1ps back then i literally searched the members teaser photos and searching for their song back on Junior High. Whew the memories of being a new kpopp fan lol
For the people saying that their are promoting ghost9 well, maroo is doing the bare minimum. Last comeback should have been promoted better. It wasn’t promoted at all. That should have been the focus rather than making another comeback. We got Seoul months after the last comeback, overworking them rather then promoting the last cb. We feel like we are getting a lot of content bcs in the last one they got no promotion.
I didn't found lyrics of song when I became Adult Of Bonus Baby Weird 😮😥😣
lmao they put so little in promotion yet want a big outcome just from a debut
Kinda frustrated on MyB's disbandment (back in 2015 I was so excited whats next after Ddoddo) but I guess I would understand why Maroo had to let them go, they were not selling that well and as a company... Why would I invest on something where there is no gain? I dont know if Maroo did failed them for not promoting or its just that the general consumer/public doesn't like them (That ghastly physical sales tho... Its heartbreaking.)
Most groups from small companies don't break out that fast though. Secret flopped with their debut, but thanks to Sunhwa getting a good opportunity on Invincible Youth they gained attention and their next song did great. Maroo could have easily gotten Moonhee some sort of promotion to gain attention, but they don't even try. They expect immediate fame.
I thought maroo was doing well with ghost9 but I came back here after I heard dongjun and taesung leave the group😭
been waiting for so long ✨😭
I hope you like it
So I was around when MyB debuted and the vitriole was STRONG. Because they were all blonde and five members, people accused them of copying Red Velvet, who had just had their smash hit Ice Cream Cake with five blonde members. People were spamming the video comments, booing their stages... it was so sad.
Edit: I have now watched the rest of the video lol thanks for covering it
thank you for making this! i really love ghost9 and i loved khan but this company has GOT to go 😭
you're so welcome!
So basically this company was known for all the unknown groups. I think it's crazy that I've been a kpop fan since 2008, but hadn't heard of any of the groups under this company... Only ones I knew of were The Ark and Khan but both only after they had already disbanded, and had a member appear on The Unit and got into Uni.T. I actually know of and really like Ghost9's songs and B-sides. I hope they can keep going. And of course, Jihoon also has pretty good songs too, but yeah he could be doing so much more right now if we are going to compare him with Kang Daniel's rate of promotions. I think this company, like many other companies, is terrible with handling girl groups.
There REALLY needs to be an age restriction for idols to debut and set foot in for a disgusting type of audience. I thought 16 was too young, but oh man, there are idols who debut as young as 12.
No
Just no
The clip of the men cheering for the 14 year old says everything about what needs to change about the industry. Being excited that someone is naive and undeveloped is a sign of weak character
wow, they debut so many groups lol
could you do a video on GWSN’s current condition? while we as fans are pretty sure their next comeback is soon, they took quite a hit in october as their creative director that helped conceptualize their storyline left the company. i’m pretty sure the comeback was supposed to be in october, but it’s almost april now, and gwsn mentioned the comeback itself in december of 2020. if you could, a video on their situation would help a lot.
khan was such a waste 😢
they were so good idk why they didn’t keep up with them
do top media next omg like up10tion, wooseok, jinhyuk, mcnd, plus yechan god i don't get what top plans with them
I suspect Yechan left TOP Media... If so, then he might've made the right choice
UPDATE: he most likely left. He's in the lineup of OMEGA X