I imagine you get a little sad because nobody come to see them, then you understand why, and your inner demon says something like "what a douche/bitch" and your inner angel: "yeah that douche/bitch deserve it.".
I feel like OP should've gone further, that bitch deserves nothing but sheer agony every waking moment of the rest of her miserable life. But I'm glad he didn't, she fucked his life up enough, she wasn't worth going to prison over.
There's a very special kind of hell, separate from all other hells for people who harm animals, and in that very special hell, there is a very, very dark punishment set aside for people who harm cats.
If cat owners were fully responsible and kept them inside instead of letting them out to kill native animals then these people wouldn't have a chance to harm them would they?
@@jc5531 If women like myself just stayed at home, there would be no rape would there, if only we were responsible and weren't allowed to do anything. A cat being loose does not give anyone the right to hurt them to any degree ever, anymore than a person being out and about gives another person the right to hurt them.
Once the techs developed the Polymerase chain reaction: a process that could chemically "copy" small samples if DNA until a viable identification could be achieved. (Needless to say, I am a Forensic Files addict. 🐱
@@nickojonsson6315 You are correct. Many agencies won't even spring for genetic testing for sexual assaults, unless they're trying to prosecute a case against a specific person, or if the assault is so high profile that they can't just ignore it.
The first story in this one is most likely fake for several reasons: The guy wasn't investigated when he had admitted he was bringing all the cats to the pound prior to them having been killed by antifreeze and the last one by glass shards in the food to see if any remains of the broken glass or the traps could be found in his property, "For Princess" written when cops knew this guy was suspected of killing everyone's pets yet no one was interrogated or investigated about the property destruction plus the several hours of property destruction that happened without anyone reporting it, and despite the guy hating everyone the kids somehow knew he had wife's ashes and in which container when any regular kid in that situation wouln't even notice it had dust inside after smashing it on the floor along with everything else. The second story the only issue I can find is exactly what you mention, so it might be true and that guy simply chose to not get involved with it.
@@Leongon I completely agree. Normally I don't go with the people saying stories are fake, but you make some really valid points unlike the people that just go "haha r/thathappened"
@@Leongon honestly it probably is real. This was the 90s. The cops just probably didnt care too much since it was about cats, if it was about people getting harmed/killed then it would have been a different story. Also just cause it was kids doesnt mean they dont know what an ern is so even if they didnt know at the time he had one they probably found it on his mantle with a picture of his wife next to it (erns arent exactly discrete either).
I wouldn't have dumped the ashes, I would of stolen them, he took someone away that was very loved from another person and brought a lot of sadness to many people, he deserves the same
@@bork116 -- that could very well be. If the soil there is thick and muddy, silt basically, ashes along with other added tilth might be very useful (also, the ashes might be a form of insecticide against unwanted bugs). Our "soil" here is either pure sand or desiccated granite, or, depending on location, an unfortunate mix of both. Also, broken down lava in the area would be similar to ash in lack of nutrition (though sometimes it can hold water). Our soils gobble up heavy doses of compost, yummy!
instead of telling yourself that the wife was evil, tell yourself that the wife's ashes were better off being dumped than being stuck inside this horror house
But, then again, they were dumped inside that "horror house". They would've been better off stolen and dumped somewhere else. That bastard shouldn't have been given the satisfaction of having his deceased wife's ashes dumped in, or anywhere near, his hellhole of a home.
Dumping the urn maaay be too much... but he also killed a lot of cats, so my sympathy for the guy is in the negatives. I'd say steal the urn and spread the late wife's ashes near an animal shelter. Then months later, drop off the empty urn with a "your wife is now protecting all the beautiful animals you slaughtered, bastard. :D"
I would absolutely have ended up in jail for a very long time, I go damn near feral when it comes to things trying to hurt my cats. I would have gone for the fucker's eyes, personally. Can't poison/feed them glass if you can't see anymore.
I feel for OP with his abuse. I went through hell like that with my father. Took me going through drug addiction to finally get help when I sank so low. Unfortunately, we never got revenge or express our feelings because he moved to another country and then died. We were only told he was passing a few days before he passed. Kudos on the revenge. Abusers deserve all the negative karma they get. I had to tell my nephew everything when he got olde because he didn’t understand why his mom, my sister, was such a helicopter mom. He understand and never got angry about it once it was clear she didn’t want him to go through our hell.
@@kylej0474 I’m well, thank you! I love my life now. Hopefully anyone reading it will know to just hang on and it will end! I’m lucky because we live in Honolulu now. I can’t ask for a better life! It taught me to persist and never give up.
As someone who is fiercely protective of cats, my own and other's, I would have definitely joined in on the vandalism with a sledgehammer. I don't think it went too far at all. It was well deserved I wouldn't have dumped the ashes though, I would have stolen them and left the urn a few hundred miles away
Nah, the ashes didn't need to be sent that far. I'd have left them on the doorstep of the pound after getting "For Princess" scratched into the urn in a way that couldn't be hidden
Concerning DNA testing in the 90s: There was this guy, Ronny Rieken, who did terrible things to little girls in my area of north west Germany back in 1998. DNA testing was pretty new back then. In fact it was such a novelty that Ronny didn't believe it even worked, and had himself tested after his brother in law (I think) dared him into getting tested (aka if you have nothing to hide, go have a test). Joke's on him. He got out of jail like two or three years ago.
The human Genome Project ran from 1990-2003 with the first fully DNA sequenced human on April 14, 2003. Human DNA was not used extensively for forensics they didn't routinely collect it, however there were things that are closely related that were, semen and blood samples, but generally this was expensive and only done for a serious crime. Sexual assault kits have been around since the 70s and commonplace since the 80s. As early as 1983 were the first uses of DNA profiling (chromosomal level) and DNA was first used to convict someone in 1987. We knew from then that any samples that were collected and properly stored could have been able to be used later as sequencing became more common, and this DNA evidence along with better faster sequencing has been used to acquit falsely accused people. That said DNA wasn't so common a technique that it would have even been considered for a break-in and vandalise the way it might be now. And it only became so popular following its use in Dramas like CSI and similar which first aired in 2000, it was technology that was just plausible and made for a good plot device. Did DNA testing exist in the 90s? Yes. Would it have been used for something like this? No
@@johnydl DNA profiling was a common technique that was used in the 1980s and the 1990s- so you are wrong with your five minute Wikipedia search. The only problem is that DNA profiling was in its infancy. In the 1980s and early 1990s, they would try to match blood types to the suspect. However, police did utilize DNA evidence in many cases in the 1990s. A simple google search into 1990s murders would give you that information. Please don't come here with your false information. Also, CSI shows did not popularize DNA. They didn't advance DNA. They didn't do any of the research. They didn't even do a good job at portraying the process that it takes to extract, quantify/qualify DNA, amplify DNA, or even accurately depict the process it takes to analyze and then translate the data you get when you get a DNA sequence/profiling DNA. The people that popularized DNA forensic science were the actual scientists like Butler, not some subpar CSI show that didn't even do any of the science correct. Police and forensic scientists in the 90s were working together for many, many years to get DNA profiling the spotlight it currently has. Not a television show that you believe is accurate. Now, I do agree that DNA profiling would have been useless in this case because there is a possibility that there is no DNA available. However, I am in serious doubt about the OPs story. Police wouldn't be doing their jobs if a homeowner (even one as disgusting and unlikable as this douche was) suffered damages of over $20,000, not even including the damages of the car, and they didn't do anything. These kids could have gotten into a lot of trouble if discovered, because believe it or not evidence would exist (transfer, fingerprints, other impression evidence such as shoe prints). The younger kids would probably get away with a warning, but the teenagers? Especially older teenagers?
@@TiffWaffles I didn't say there was no DNA profiling in the 80s or 90s I said that it is not the same process as what we mean by modernday DNA evidence where we know the whole sequence of AGTCs that make up a human being, back then it's was more like comparing monochrome barcodes that were generated from the chromosomes. It was neither cheap nor ubiquitous, the police couldn't get a DNA profile from almost any trace evidence in a few hours. When I said common I meant this, in terms of evidence DNA was relatively uncommon even if every lab was technically capable of doing the testing, but doing a DNA test wasn't even a weekly occurrence for most labs and so less common than say fingerprint evidence or chemical tracing or blood antibody analysis. While I agree that lots of researchers did a lot of work part of the reason for many prosecutors pushing for more and more DNA based evidence was public perception, DNA evidence entered the public consciousness in a much bigger way thanks TV dramas than any individual cases being in the news. It doesn't matter how crappy you or I think the shows are they changed the public perception of what level of evidence is necessary for conviction changed. This meant even if the science in the shows were bad they had as much if not more to do with how necessary DNA became for getting criminals put behind bars. The information I gave wasn't strictly false it was just simplified to tell a reasonable story as fast as possible as soon as the video came out, I do appreciate your giving me the opportunity to explain what I meant further and I understand what you said was meant to help inform, next time you should do so without making assumptions about the motivations of other posters and the information they share. The information I shared didn't come strictly from Wikipedia, though I did have to double-check many details because my memory isn't perfect. As to this specific case? I don't have so many reservations about it, and I think it could be real, if there's no direct evidence, no witnesses and no leads I can easily imagine that police would have little to do as far as further investigations. If no-one is willing to talk or help, there's no CCTV, hunting for fingerprints could be almost impossible and even if they could there's no guarantee they could match them to anyone if the kids weren't in the system already. And most likely the only person the guy could point at was the owner of princess and old lady with no knowledge when the police showed to alert the police simple connection to a gang who might have acted on her behalf and who wouldn't have credibly been able to commit the crime either. The police might have taken this one lead to show he was crazy and perhaps think he did these things to himself, either literally or figuratively and been less keen to trace the people who did it especially in a small-town police force.
The first use of DNA profiling to solve a murder had only been in 1987, so early 1990s was pretty early days and still probably too expensive for the police to use for a simple break in. Also you have to have samples to compare dna evidence to, and given how much the locals hated the old git I doubt there'd be many stepping forward if asked to provide dna samples.
As someone who owns two cats that are indoor only those are my children that man not only killed that woman's child but tortured it, dumping out his late wife's ashes is so not too far
Doing what they did to the ashes is too much, steal it, keep it, spread it in a respectable place and that's fine. It'll hurt him all the same however the wife was a different person no need to disrespect her for her terrible husband. If anything think about what she had to deal with by living with him.
yeah i love my cat. she is my baby and if anyone hurt her i would come unglued . i say grab the asshole while he is sleeping and dump him from a moving car in the middle of no where .
To be honest, the kid who dumped them probably didn't even know what they were. Just an urn filled with stuff to toss around the room. But with that said, I'm not a cat lover by any means. But I know far too many people who are. Those cats ... are literally their children. I'm impressed the house didn't get burned down to the ground.
I don't know why but I thought that the sweet old lady would do the revenge against the old man and OP just told who could of done it, but it definitely was satisfying either way!
I mean, killing everyone's cat and especially killing a cat that means everything to you *could* equal destroying an urn that held your wife's ashes so.. eh.
imagine being on death bed and your son tells you that he pee into your Lipton ice tea and he's the reason you lost your job, kids best nuclear revenge I heard so far 🤣🤣🤣
I've already read/red the 2nd more than once and it always a satisfying story to read when you know people aren't always nice. Hope OP is doing better and the mom if she can be called one stays in prison for a long time.
I just subscribed. I was looking for something like this so I could listen to these stories while I lay in bed, relaxing (not sleeping). This allowed me to close my eyes and recover from migraines and such
Raymond D Charles half sort of justice on OP's part. It's infuriating how his aunt took his mother's side and called him a disappointment. She practically does not understand him and how shocking she did not take in how awful her own sister was even after showing her true colors. I don't know what to say. I don't know if OP should cut contact with her, but she is a very kind/forgiving person. At least OP is doing alright and so are his siblings.
For info about the update to the last story: OP has a job (or two) and is doing okay. Nothing too amazing, but not awful either. As for the evil mom, she fled the country somehow. She made one last call to OP, giving a sobbing story of how her life was ruined and denying she did anything wrong. OP, not feeling any remorse, told her the real truth of what happened and that is was her own fault. To add, OP admitted to p**sing in her tea before hanging up and blocking her.
If I remember correctly, the second story actually has a part 2. The mom used her sister's passport to escape the country. When she returned, she tried conning OP into giving her money or something (I forget the exact details). However OP had informed the police of when and where he would be meeting his mom and she ended up getting arrested.
I love animals and my pets have always been like family to me. Cats frigging border on sacred to me. I'd be hard pressed to not kill the bastard who fed ground glass to cats, even if it meant going to prison. That is a horribly agonizing death for those poor innocent creatures.
I have three cats, and they have saved my sanity between the pandemic isolation and the mother of all family crises going on at the same time. Over my life, cats have been my friends when my school classmates shunned me for being an oddball, or when I got jilted by my ex the week before I was a bridesmaid at my best friend’s wedding. If anybody did ANYTHING to hurt or kill my cats, I would kick their ass. Period. To hell with the assault charge, NOBODY messes with my furkids!!!!
I REALLY feel for the second OP. He could have been relaying MY life story. Peace to him and his siblings. Peace for the upload bro, im 51 now and completly at peace with myself and this brought back some dark memories.
Ayyyyy,this makes me enraged on idiotic people who don't even understand the word "feelings".almost 15 years you held onto that grudge and it finally paid you and your siblings off so well,I would be crying of relieve and freedom for days. Edit:oh? What a high number of likes for me. Um,thanks guys.I appreciate it.
Why do you appreciate it? Not to attack you, but I don't see the point in thanking people for liking your comment. People don't like comments to validate YOU or to say they like YOU. You just wrote something that people agree with or thought was funny. Literally anyone could have written the same thing and it would be the same out come. So why are you grateful and thankful? It doesn't elevate you or give you any benefit. I'm genuinely curious why people do this.
Nuclear revenge isn't just illegal revenge. It also entails the total destruction of the target's life. Meaning things like loss of home, job, transport, reputation, etc., and possibly their own incurred jail time or other legal charges pressed, typically in excess of several thousand dollars. It could also mean the dismantling/destruction of an entire company (usually with more than 50 employees). Oftentimes, nuclear revenge causes a ripple effect, putting innocent parties in the wake of destruction. In summary, nuclear revenge is a compounding of multiple factors (some illegal, but not always) that irrevocably changes lives for the worse, all set off by only a few people (sometimes just one person).
These are the best revenge categories! Supernova and black hole are the best. Me and my brother listen to these together as we do art! Amazing as usual!!
Massive props to OP in the second story. He escaped an abusive household, turned his life around, saved his younger siblings from suffering worse than he did, and he destroyed the vile creature that hurt him
DNA was in it's infancy back in the 1990's I think. Fingerprints actually started back in the 1920's. I believe J. Edger Hoover started it, or just before him.
Hearing stories that contain animal abuse always makes my blood boil. I too have cats (indoor ones) and if someone would hurt them I'd straight up undo him. They're currently the only thing that keeps me from loosing my sanity.
The first story was justified and DNA testing was in its early stages only used for murder investigations as for the old guy he poisoned cats so who cares what happened to him... sorry about the wire's ashes. In short, it was a justified launch of nuclear revenge. The second story... the more I hear this story the more I think the OP justified did a justified launch but personally, I don't think he went far enough. Spoilers: However the Aunt and OP's Mother would disagree.
OMG! Re: The abusive mother. I was the same as you. It felt like you plucked that straight out of my brain. But I was never as resourceful as you. There was no computers, photos to upload, nobody believed me. I had to "save" myself. I'm glad you got your revenge. Mine died years ago due to her own poor life choices.
I’ll never forget that book. I had to take occasional breaks. It’s been almost 20 years, and it is still the most horrific autobiography I’ve ever read. I read that in high school in my Morality class. Yes, that was the name lol; I went to a private Catholic school. I did a presentation that was a quick book summary followed by an in depth analysis about the whether its immortal for a parent committing child abuse incorporating specific events in the book. I protested “how do I argue its immorality!? It just is!” Mr. R told me “of course it is! but you need to tell us why; treat us like we don’t understand why.” Learned a lot about children’s brain development, child psychology, differing cultures, the history of acceptable “discipline” and how/if it’s changed, parental instincts (focused on maternal in this case), what should be considered abuse & why, impacts on society, Bible verses that support corporal punishment alongside its contradictory messages & which I ultimately decided Jesus would support, and also touched upon his siblings’ actions/inactions. It was really depressing, but I am still very proud of it. Hated reading it though. My presentation made people cry. I still remember bits. My conclusion was, surprise surprise, child abuse is immoral! And that, obviously, Jesus would think so as well. Side note: I separate Jesus’ messages and parables in the Bible from the Catholic Church’s doctrines & actions. The Bible ≠ Catholic Church. I’m not religious now nor was I then, but I find the Bible incredibly interesting. I enjoy reading and contemplating what is being said. It is an incredible important tome of fiction to me.
I disagree that dumping the ashes was too much. Perfect retribution IMHO - probably the only thing he valued and the only thing that was irreplaceable: like the old lady's cat.
I was on the cutting edge of PCR chemistry in the 1990's and DNA testing began a little bit later than 1990 itself. It got going about 1993-1994. Before that, some of it could be done, but you would need a huge amount of sample (maybe rape would get someone, or a large blood sample), but definitely not tiny amounts. Polymerase Chain Reaction changed that, since it became possible to reproduce the DNA over and over again, in order to actually get the blue-print. That's when a hair follicle might actually get someone caught.
The ashes wasn't to much. I dont think I could have stopped myself from putting several bullets in that man. The cats where more loved than that sad excuse of a human ever was
DNA testing was too expensive to waste on vandalism at that time. So expensive that many murder and rape cases were still processed using blood type analysis.
What does it say about me, that it made me feel kind of warm and fuzzy when none of the neighbors reported them or even said anything about it? 😌 like yes, band together against the prick
I so identify with the person who suffered beatings & cruelty from his mother. I experienced similar behaviour from my mother who beat me unconscious many times. I have been left with a brain injury from the trauma. My mother laughed at me for being unemployed & having no boyfriend & would taunt me for it. So I recognise the behaviour. Your mother has narcissistic personality disorder, so if you want to understand why she has acted as she did it would be very worthwhile to look that up.
Dumping the ashes was appropriate. It is reasonable to assume the late wife wanted no more to do with an insane husband who was probably just as mean to her.
1. If you abuse an animal you own it's one thing, and bad enough. If you abuse animals who live with others, there is no forgiving you. 2. If this woman was killed for what she did to her own son, it couldn’t happen enough times for any kind of peace between them. And that's if she were immortal.
Your an absolute star! Blood means nothing, shes an abhorrent woman and an even worse mother. You did the right thing, her presence in the world for 40+ years has bought nothing but misery to the vulnerable. She deserves nothing less than a cage. You will shine bright and end the cycle of abuse. Well done and best of luck to you x
If my cat was one of the ones who was captured and/or killed, the last words that old man would ever hear again would be "I don't have a fucking problem with prison"
Not saying the kids shoulda dumped the wife's ashes, but keep in mind that the kids who did it were KIDS, plus- the wife didn't care and the husband had taken multiple loved ones away from multiple people, some of them in a horrid, painful way. He was lucky nobody decided to do to her exactly what she'd done to the cats
Too many people worried about the wife's ashes. Once the body is ashes, I do not consider that any different, or any more significant than what comes out of a fireplace. My older brother's ashes resides with me for now and I find him quite useful as a footstool, a just reward for having cheated for 20 years on the sweet woman who loved him and took care of him for 40 years. We found out about the cheating only after he died.
What a horrific old man. Just disgusting, so disgusting. The ashes though... oof. I don’t care about him, but I’m going to have to tell myself the same thing as Fluff. Honestly, he has to be some type of f-ed up even before war or wife died. Grief and trauma doesn’t make someone proud of filling innocent kitties’ bellies with glass. That darkness was in his soul already.
In re: "Evil mom". I worked in long term care for many years...there is a reason why some of my residents/patients never got visitors.
Well just remember the ones that do show up are not always there for the good reasons.
I imagine you get a little sad because nobody come to see them, then you understand why, and your inner demon says something like "what a douche/bitch" and your inner angel: "yeah that douche/bitch deserve it.".
I've known for a long time that I can never be trusted to care for mine. I would become what I hate.
I feel like OP should've gone further, that bitch deserves nothing but sheer agony every waking moment of the rest of her miserable life. But I'm glad he didn't, she fucked his life up enough, she wasn't worth going to prison over.
@@IloveJellow Well said! Sometimes it is the children for whatever reason that turn on loving parents...,
There's a very special kind of hell, separate from all other hells for people who harm animals, and in that very special hell, there is a very, very dark punishment set aside for people who harm cats.
Pity it doesn’t exist in the here and now-the justice system is still a f**king joke where that sort of crime is concerned!
If cat owners were fully responsible and kept them inside instead of letting them out to kill native animals then these people wouldn't have a chance to harm them would they?
No there is not.Go drink another box of wine.
@@jc5531 If women like myself just stayed at home, there would be no rape would there, if only we were responsible and weren't allowed to do anything. A cat being loose does not give anyone the right to hurt them to any degree ever, anymore than a person being out and about gives another person the right to hurt them.
@@jc5531 That's not how that works. In many jurisdictions like here in Arizone they ARE native wildlife
Also see above post
DNA testing was available in the 90’s but was in its infancy and expensive plus it needed a sizeable amount of DNA to get a good result
Once the techs developed the Polymerase chain reaction: a process that could chemically "copy" small samples if DNA until a viable identification could be achieved.
(Needless to say, I am a Forensic Files addict. 🐱
Yeah, I doubt that the cops would even do DNA testing if there wasn't a murder.
Filamax it was probably just: we have decided from the dna that the culprit is a human
Yup. Only extraditions from saliva, large blood spots and hair follicles worked back then.
@@nickojonsson6315 You are correct. Many agencies won't even spring for genetic testing for sexual assaults, unless they're trying to prosecute a case against a specific person, or if the assault is so high profile that they can't just ignore it.
You'd think that boyfriend would have called CPS services after the evil Mom put that knife on her kids neck, shit that kid had a nightmare of a life.
The first story in this one is most likely fake for several reasons: The guy wasn't investigated when he had admitted he was bringing all the cats to the pound prior to them having been killed by antifreeze and the last one by glass shards in the food to see if any remains of the broken glass or the traps could be found in his property, "For Princess" written when cops knew this guy was suspected of killing everyone's pets yet no one was interrogated or investigated about the property destruction plus the several hours of property destruction that happened without anyone reporting it, and despite the guy hating everyone the kids somehow knew he had wife's ashes and in which container when any regular kid in that situation wouln't even notice it had dust inside after smashing it on the floor along with everything else.
The second story the only issue I can find is exactly what you mention, so it might be true and that guy simply chose to not get involved with it.
@@Leongon I completely agree. Normally I don't go with the people saying stories are fake, but you make some really valid points unlike the people that just go "haha r/thathappened"
@@Leongon You would be surprised how much people will tolerate just because they don't want any trouble.
@@Leongon honestly it probably is real. This was the 90s. The cops just probably didnt care too much since it was about cats, if it was about people getting harmed/killed then it would have been a different story. Also just cause it was kids doesnt mean they dont know what an ern is so even if they didnt know at the time he had one they probably found it on his mantle with a picture of his wife next to it (erns arent exactly discrete either).
@@Leongon also everyone hated the guy, its no surprise no one reported it.
I wouldn't have dumped the ashes, I would of stolen them, he took someone away that was very loved from another person and brought a lot of sadness to many people, he deserves the same
Perhaps (depending on the soil) use the ashes to enrich a garden. The deceased might have approved of that.
@@debbys-abqnm4537 If you're going that route I hope you're planting catnip
@@ToxicSunrise132 or catgrass
@@debbys-abqnm4537 ashes from a crematorium will do nothing as the ashes dont have any nutrients in them
@@bork116 -- that could very well be. If the soil there is thick and muddy, silt basically, ashes along with other added tilth might be very useful (also, the ashes might be a form of insecticide against unwanted bugs). Our "soil" here is either pure sand or desiccated granite, or, depending on location, an unfortunate mix of both. Also, broken down lava in the area would be similar to ash in lack of nutrition (though sometimes it can hold water). Our soils gobble up heavy doses of compost, yummy!
instead of telling yourself that the wife was evil, tell yourself that the wife's ashes were better off being dumped than being stuck inside this horror house
I'll bet she died before him *because* of him.
But, then again, they were dumped inside that "horror house". They would've been better off stolen and dumped somewhere else. That bastard shouldn't have been given the satisfaction of having his deceased wife's ashes dumped in, or anywhere near, his hellhole of a home.
The ashes are absolutely meaningless to anyone but him so it was a great move in my opinion fuck that dude
@@richardratliff9436 Agreed! 👍
@@dixietenbroeck8717 Ditto!👍👍
Dumping the urn maaay be too much... but he also killed a lot of cats, so my sympathy for the guy is in the negatives. I'd say steal the urn and spread the late wife's ashes near an animal shelter. Then months later, drop off the empty urn with a "your wife is now protecting all the beautiful animals you slaughtered, bastard. :D"
I would've put the urn 500 miles away and take a photo send it to him then send him a map to the urn
I'd have stolen them and then posted him photos of it months later.
QuillPenMonster, I’d drop a deuce in the urn and leave it on his porch.
I like your style.
@@urcousin4453 oh that is way to kind, I would have done a roaming gnome with the urn and send him on a wild goose chase.
What happened to the old guy was not enough...nothing would ever be enough for what he did to those innocent animals.
There's a special place in h-e-double hockey sticks for animal abusers and animal murderers.
I would absolutely have ended up in jail for a very long time, I go damn near feral when it comes to things trying to hurt my cats. I would have gone for the fucker's eyes, personally. Can't poison/feed them glass if you can't see anymore.
@Galactic Ninja And a nice anti freeze drink to chase it down. Then drop him off at a "pound" (IE middle of the woods, tied up and on a fire ant hill)
Well, these were just kids, they did try hard, even if they didn't go nearly far enough.
Yea my group or drifter neighborhood kids woulda done way worse for sure lol these ones did good but we woulda been more direct to say the least.
I feel for OP with his abuse. I went through hell like that with my father. Took me going through drug addiction to finally get help when I sank so low. Unfortunately, we never got revenge or express our feelings because he moved to another country and then died. We were only told he was passing a few days before he passed. Kudos on the revenge. Abusers deserve all the negative karma they get. I had to tell my nephew everything when he got olde because he didn’t understand why his mom, my sister, was such a helicopter mom. He understand and never got angry about it once it was clear she didn’t want him to go through our hell.
Good for u to get over that, I hope that you are doing well
@@kylej0474 I’m well, thank you! I love my life now. Hopefully anyone reading it will know to just hang on and it will end! I’m lucky because we live in Honolulu now. I can’t ask for a better life! It taught me to persist and never give up.
@@josebaez7116 that’s great I’m just trying to spread as much positively as possible. Have a nice holiday season
@@kylej0474 you also!
u can enjoy ur life now mister
The sweet old lady smiling and giving OP $20 is what made the first story for me. :-)
As someone who is fiercely protective of cats, my own and other's, I would have definitely joined in on the vandalism with a sledgehammer. I don't think it went too far at all. It was well deserved
I wouldn't have dumped the ashes though, I would have stolen them and left the urn a few hundred miles away
@NebulaZX Made my day. Thank you.
Nah, the ashes didn't need to be sent that far. I'd have left them on the doorstep of the pound after getting "For Princess" scratched into the urn in a way that couldn't be hidden
I don't have any pets but, I would've destroyed his kitchen and leave the water on.
I would've pissed on the bed.
@Kei eww. Lol! Funny, though.😘😘😘
Concerning DNA testing in the 90s:
There was this guy, Ronny Rieken, who did terrible things to little girls in my area of north west Germany back in 1998. DNA testing was pretty new back then. In fact it was such a novelty that Ronny didn't believe it even worked, and had himself tested after his brother in law (I think) dared him into getting tested (aka if you have nothing to hide, go have a test). Joke's on him. He got out of jail like two or three years ago.
The human Genome Project ran from 1990-2003 with the first fully DNA sequenced human on April 14, 2003.
Human DNA was not used extensively for forensics they didn't routinely collect it, however there were things that are closely related that were, semen and blood samples, but generally this was expensive and only done for a serious crime. Sexual assault kits have been around since the 70s and commonplace since the 80s. As early as 1983 were the first uses of DNA profiling (chromosomal level) and DNA was first used to convict someone in 1987. We knew from then that any samples that were collected and properly stored could have been able to be used later as sequencing became more common, and this DNA evidence along with better faster sequencing has been used to acquit falsely accused people.
That said DNA wasn't so common a technique that it would have even been considered for a break-in and vandalise the way it might be now. And it only became so popular following its use in Dramas like CSI and similar which first aired in 2000, it was technology that was just plausible and made for a good plot device.
Did DNA testing exist in the 90s? Yes. Would it have been used for something like this? No
DNA profiling has been around since the 80s. I the reason the cops in the story didn't use it was its high costs back in the day.
@@johnydl DNA profiling was a common technique that was used in the 1980s and the 1990s- so you are wrong with your five minute Wikipedia search. The only problem is that DNA profiling was in its infancy. In the 1980s and early 1990s, they would try to match blood types to the suspect. However, police did utilize DNA evidence in many cases in the 1990s. A simple google search into 1990s murders would give you that information. Please don't come here with your false information.
Also, CSI shows did not popularize DNA. They didn't advance DNA. They didn't do any of the research. They didn't even do a good job at portraying the process that it takes to extract, quantify/qualify DNA, amplify DNA, or even accurately depict the process it takes to analyze and then translate the data you get when you get a DNA sequence/profiling DNA. The people that popularized DNA forensic science were the actual scientists like Butler, not some subpar CSI show that didn't even do any of the science correct. Police and forensic scientists in the 90s were working together for many, many years to get DNA profiling the spotlight it currently has. Not a television show that you believe is accurate.
Now, I do agree that DNA profiling would have been useless in this case because there is a possibility that there is no DNA available. However, I am in serious doubt about the OPs story. Police wouldn't be doing their jobs if a homeowner (even one as disgusting and unlikable as this douche was) suffered damages of over $20,000, not even including the damages of the car, and they didn't do anything. These kids could have gotten into a lot of trouble if discovered, because believe it or not evidence would exist (transfer, fingerprints, other impression evidence such as shoe prints). The younger kids would probably get away with a warning, but the teenagers? Especially older teenagers?
@@TiffWaffles I didn't say there was no DNA profiling in the 80s or 90s I said that it is not the same process as what we mean by modernday DNA evidence where we know the whole sequence of AGTCs that make up a human being, back then it's was more like comparing monochrome barcodes that were generated from the chromosomes. It was neither cheap nor ubiquitous, the police couldn't get a DNA profile from almost any trace evidence in a few hours. When I said common I meant this, in terms of evidence DNA was relatively uncommon even if every lab was technically capable of doing the testing, but doing a DNA test wasn't even a weekly occurrence for most labs and so less common than say fingerprint evidence or chemical tracing or blood antibody analysis.
While I agree that lots of researchers did a lot of work part of the reason for many prosecutors pushing for more and more DNA based evidence was public perception, DNA evidence entered the public consciousness in a much bigger way thanks TV dramas than any individual cases being in the news. It doesn't matter how crappy you or I think the shows are they changed the public perception of what level of evidence is necessary for conviction changed. This meant even if the science in the shows were bad they had as much if not more to do with how necessary DNA became for getting criminals put behind bars.
The information I gave wasn't strictly false it was just simplified to tell a reasonable story as fast as possible as soon as the video came out, I do appreciate your giving me the opportunity to explain what I meant further and I understand what you said was meant to help inform, next time you should do so without making assumptions about the motivations of other posters and the information they share. The information I shared didn't come strictly from Wikipedia, though I did have to double-check many details because my memory isn't perfect.
As to this specific case? I don't have so many reservations about it, and I think it could be real, if there's no direct evidence, no witnesses and no leads I can easily imagine that police would have little to do as far as further investigations. If no-one is willing to talk or help, there's no CCTV, hunting for fingerprints could be almost impossible and even if they could there's no guarantee they could match them to anyone if the kids weren't in the system already. And most likely the only person the guy could point at was the owner of princess and old lady with no knowledge when the police showed to alert the police simple connection to a gang who might have acted on her behalf and who wouldn't have credibly been able to commit the crime either. The police might have taken this one lead to show he was crazy and perhaps think he did these things to himself, either literally or figuratively and been less keen to trace the people who did it especially in a small-town police force.
The first use of DNA profiling to solve a murder had only been in 1987, so early 1990s was pretty early days and still probably too expensive for the police to use for a simple break in. Also you have to have samples to compare dna evidence to, and given how much the locals hated the old git I doubt there'd be many stepping forward if asked to provide dna samples.
What I learn so far:
Never mess with a Grandma cuz this could go 2 ways
1) you get the boot
2) you kill her cat, she becomes the grandma of John Wick
As someone who owns two cats that are indoor only those are my children that man not only killed that woman's child but tortured it, dumping out his late wife's ashes is so not too far
i’d have waited till he got home and smashed the urn over his head and poured the ashes down his throat. i love cats.
Doing what they did to the ashes is too much, steal it, keep it, spread it in a respectable place and that's fine. It'll hurt him all the same however the wife was a different person no need to disrespect her for her terrible husband. If anything think about what she had to deal with by living with him.
yeah i love my cat. she is my baby and if anyone hurt her i would come unglued . i say grab the asshole while he is sleeping and dump him from a moving car in the middle of no where .
To be honest, the kid who dumped them probably didn't even know what they were. Just an urn filled with stuff to toss around the room.
But with that said, I'm not a cat lover by any means. But I know far too many people who are. Those cats ... are literally their children. I'm impressed the house didn't get burned down to the ground.
"Tell Mother...it was me."
Kudos to the OP with the narc mom. It takes a special kind of petty and stubborn to endure that particular hell.
"Tell Cercei. I want her to know it was me."
I don't know why but I thought that the sweet old lady would do the revenge against the old man and OP just told who could of done it, but it definitely was satisfying either way!
Kkstar 17 *could've
Honestly, I was waiting for her to pull a shotgun on him, lol
I love that the neighbourhood kids took care of it for her.
Cause hell have no fury like a woman scorned
When it comes to my babies both human and furry, feathered or scaly I'd raise hell for revenge
I mean, killing everyone's cat and especially killing a cat that means everything to you *could* equal destroying an urn that held your wife's ashes so.. eh.
Nah, his wife didnt have to suffer, the cat did.
Just k him, dobt worry the police wuld give you an award
imagine being on death bed and your son tells you that he pee into your Lipton ice tea and he's the reason you lost your job, kids
best nuclear revenge I heard so far 🤣🤣🤣
I've already read/red the 2nd more than once and it always a satisfying story to read when you know people aren't always nice. Hope OP is doing better and the mom if she can be called one stays in prison for a long time.
I just subscribed.
I was looking for something like this so I could listen to these stories while I lay in bed, relaxing (not sleeping). This allowed me to close my eyes and recover from migraines and such
I really wish there was an update for the last story!!! And that her life goes down in flames and op gets to deliver the final Justice!!!
Update is here: www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/beeqp6/my_mother_destroyed_my_childhood_made_me_fail_out/
@@RCDanforthTV I just got finished reading it, hope OP and his siblings are alright.
Raymond D Charles half sort of justice on OP's part. It's infuriating how his aunt took his mother's side and called him a disappointment. She practically does not understand him and how shocking she did not take in how awful her own sister was even after showing her true colors. I don't know what to say. I don't know if OP should cut contact with her, but she is a very kind/forgiving person.
At least OP is doing alright and so are his siblings.
Legend has it Oldman was cursed with an eternity of reincarnating as a stray cat.
For info about the update to the last story: OP has a job (or two) and is doing okay. Nothing too amazing, but not awful either. As for the evil mom, she fled the country somehow. She made one last call to OP, giving a sobbing story of how her life was ruined and denying she did anything wrong. OP, not feeling any remorse, told her the real truth of what happened and that is was her own fault. To add, OP admitted to p**sing in her tea before hanging up and blocking her.
We’ll just wait till she gets in trouble in her new country and is sent back to her own.
That first story man is just pure evil. Glass shards. Poor kitty
Fluff, the first one wasn’t just nuclear, that was thermo-nuclear revenge.
And yet it was insufficient, there is no hell deep enough for pet killers
If I remember correctly, the second story actually has a part 2. The mom used her sister's passport to escape the country. When she returned, she tried conning OP into giving her money or something (I forget the exact details). However OP had informed the police of when and where he would be meeting his mom and she ended up getting arrested.
"I peed in your Lipton Ice Tea!" that made me laugh til I cried...
S1- The old guy would have been arrested 4 animal abuse.
S2- N the mother would have definitely b arrested.
But Brilliant revenge on both stories.
I love animals and my pets have always been like family to me. Cats frigging border on sacred to me. I'd be hard pressed to not kill the bastard who fed ground glass to cats, even if it meant going to prison. That is a horribly agonizing death for those poor innocent creatures.
I have three cats, and they have saved my sanity between the pandemic isolation and the mother of all family crises going on at the same time. Over my life, cats have been my friends when my school classmates shunned me for being an oddball, or when I got jilted by my ex the week before I was a bridesmaid at my best friend’s wedding. If anybody did ANYTHING to hurt or kill my cats, I would kick their ass. Period. To hell with the assault charge, NOBODY messes with my furkids!!!!
I would have left the urn alone and left a message next to it saying "I'm disguested by you. I'm glad I died before you became this."
Someone should've put glass in HIS food, if it gets rid of destructive pests so well.
I would have had no trouble giving the first guy a taste of his own medicine. Put ground glass in his favorite food, or adding antifreeze in a drink.
What would be considered murder. But I do understand the feeling.
@@darthrevan2063 yes, and its sad that mass pet sloghter isnt
I REALLY feel for the second OP.
He could have been relaying MY life story.
Peace to him and his siblings.
Peace for the upload bro, im 51 now and completly at peace with myself and this brought back some dark memories.
“Like typical Halloween night” 🤣🤣
I dearly love the abusive mother story. I’m routing for the kids.
Ayyyyy,this makes me enraged on idiotic people who don't even understand the word "feelings".almost 15 years you held onto that grudge and it finally paid you and your siblings off so well,I would be crying of relieve and freedom for days.
Edit:oh? What a high number of likes for me. Um,thanks guys.I appreciate it.
Why do you appreciate it? Not to attack you, but I don't see the point in thanking people for liking your comment. People don't like comments to validate YOU or to say they like YOU. You just wrote something that people agree with or thought was funny. Literally anyone could have written the same thing and it would be the same out come. So why are you grateful and thankful? It doesn't elevate you or give you any benefit. I'm genuinely curious why people do this.
@@Ayaforshort I appreciate that people have the same thoughts as me?
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
@@TheFearsomeRat To have the thought that this comment was 1 year ago,just wow.
And yes,what you said is true.
The 2nd story wasn't nuclear revenge. That usually entails that something illegal was done. It's more like pro revenge.
Nuclear revenge isn't just illegal revenge. It also entails the total destruction of the target's life. Meaning things like loss of home, job, transport, reputation, etc., and possibly their own incurred jail time or other legal charges pressed, typically in excess of several thousand dollars. It could also mean the dismantling/destruction of an entire company (usually with more than 50 employees). Oftentimes, nuclear revenge causes a ripple effect, putting innocent parties in the wake of destruction.
In summary, nuclear revenge is a compounding of multiple factors (some illegal, but not always) that irrevocably changes lives for the worse, all set off by only a few people (sometimes just one person).
Truthfully. I would find a way to make that guy unknowingly eat glass shards himself. If you give medicine, you have to be ready to take it too.
Ayeeee I love nuclear revenge 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Yo same
sane
same
The old guy is lucky it didn't become a tradition.
Dumping his wife's ashes was the perfect thing to do lol. How tf he gonna kill everyone's cats and not expect revenge lol
There is no limit to what you can do to an animal abuser, take out any revenge on them! They deserve the very worst.
These are the best revenge categories! Supernova and black hole are the best. Me and my brother listen to these together as we do art! Amazing as usual!!
Massive props to OP in the second story. He escaped an abusive household, turned his life around, saved his younger siblings from suffering worse than he did, and he destroyed the vile creature that hurt him
The sweet old lady. Props to op getting revenge for her little princess
I will never understand the kind of cruelty it takes to murder peoples pets or abuse children
Jesus H Christ!
That first one was like The Purge but for frikken real!!
Awesome :D
Yea man. :D
"Sweet old lady went from 0 to bi*** in about half a second."
Well, that's a new sentence.
There was more to the second story. How come you didn't go over the rest of it?
Considering the rest of his videos, I'd say video length.
Wondering the same.
link to the full story please
@@dinkledankle shouldn't longer videos help with monetization or something?
Ye I would like to read the full story
I am so glad OP got his Mom away from his siblings and I love that he peed in her Liptons Iced Tea.
may the old lady be reunited with her little princess
dumbing is wife's ashes is a dick move, but it's FAR less a dick move, than killing a freaking living cat.
"I cry when angels deserve to die"
Chop Suey, System of a Down
DNA was in it's infancy back in the 1990's I think. Fingerprints actually started back in the 1920's. I believe J. Edger Hoover started it, or just before him.
Nuke, definitely and hope an update comes on ops mom so we know how sweet the fruit of their labor is
Ive been waiting on an update since rslash covered it
Hearing stories that contain animal abuse always makes my blood boil. I too have cats (indoor ones) and if someone would hurt them I'd straight up undo him. They're currently the only thing that keeps me from loosing my sanity.
The first story was justified and DNA testing was in its early stages only used for murder investigations as for the old guy he poisoned cats so who cares what happened to him... sorry about the wire's ashes. In short, it was a justified launch of nuclear revenge.
The second story... the more I hear this story the more I think the OP justified did a justified launch but personally, I don't think he went far enough.
Spoilers: However the Aunt and OP's Mother would disagree.
OMG! Re: The abusive mother. I was the same as you. It felt like you plucked that straight out of my brain. But I was never as resourceful as you. There was no computers, photos to upload, nobody believed me. I had to "save" myself. I'm glad you got your revenge. Mine died years ago due to her own poor life choices.
Guy: hurtith
Old lady: *So anyway, I just started blasting*
Glass?! I literally gasped.
Evil mother story: read a book entitled "A Child Called 'It' " by David Peizer. True story.
That book was so sad! That mom was certifiably insane!
I’ll never forget that book. I had to take occasional breaks. It’s been almost 20 years, and it is still the most horrific autobiography I’ve ever read. I read that in high school in my Morality class. Yes, that was the name lol; I went to a private Catholic school. I did a presentation that was a quick book summary followed by an in depth analysis about the whether its immortal for a parent committing child abuse incorporating specific events in the book. I protested “how do I argue its immorality!? It just is!”
Mr. R told me “of course it is! but you need to tell us why; treat us like we don’t understand why.” Learned a lot about children’s brain development, child psychology, differing cultures, the history of acceptable “discipline” and how/if it’s changed, parental instincts (focused on maternal in this case), what should be considered abuse & why, impacts on society, Bible verses that support corporal punishment alongside its contradictory messages & which I ultimately decided Jesus would support, and also touched upon his siblings’ actions/inactions.
It was really depressing, but I am still very proud of it. Hated reading it though. My presentation made people cry. I still remember bits.
My conclusion was, surprise surprise, child abuse is immoral! And that, obviously, Jesus would think so as well.
Side note: I separate Jesus’ messages and parables in the Bible from the Catholic Church’s doctrines & actions. The Bible ≠ Catholic Church. I’m not religious now nor was I then, but I find the Bible incredibly interesting. I enjoy reading and contemplating what is being said. It is an incredible important tome of fiction to me.
That book hurt to read. We had to read it in a class supposedly devoted to speed reading. The end of the book was good, but devastating to read to.
Awesome videos. It’s amazing how fast the time goes while watching these on a treadmill! I have just subscribed!
I disagree that dumping the ashes was too much. Perfect retribution IMHO - probably the only thing he valued and the only thing that was irreplaceable: like the old lady's cat.
I was on the cutting edge of PCR chemistry in the 1990's and DNA testing began a little bit later than 1990 itself. It got going about 1993-1994. Before that, some of it could be done, but you would need a huge amount of sample (maybe rape would get someone, or a large blood sample), but definitely not tiny amounts. Polymerase Chain Reaction changed that, since it became possible to reproduce the DNA over and over again, in order to actually get the blue-print. That's when a hair follicle might actually get someone caught.
The ashes wasn't to much. I dont think I could have stopped myself from putting several bullets in that man. The cats where more loved than that sad excuse of a human ever was
I disagree it's someone else's remains.
@@speedy01247 yeah was he ever remourse when killing cats?
That last story deserves one HIGHER than "Nuclear Revenge." It deserves the title of "Extinction Level Revenge."
nearly 18 minutes of Fluff's voice? o:
heck yes
DNA testing was too expensive to waste on vandalism at that time. So expensive that many murder and rape cases were still processed using blood type analysis.
What does it say about me, that it made me feel kind of warm and fuzzy when none of the neighbors reported them or even said anything about it? 😌 like yes, band together against the prick
I love what they did to the old man!!!😺
Ok. I agree, they shouldn't have dumped his wife's ashes, but, he shouldn't have murdered Princess either. 😠
Also torture
That Mom story was definitely well deserved. People shouldn't have children if they are evil.
Probably new enough in the 90's that it couldn't be spared for a vandalism case.
I so identify with the person who suffered beatings & cruelty from his mother. I experienced similar behaviour from my mother who beat me unconscious many times. I have been left with a brain injury from the trauma. My mother laughed at me for being unemployed & having no boyfriend & would taunt me for it. So I recognise the behaviour. Your mother has narcissistic personality disorder, so if you want to understand why she has acted as she did it would be very worthwhile to look that up.
Thanks for the good reddit content
I've kinda thought that a couple of these stories didn't fall under "nuclear" revenge but this episode is most nuclear worthy!
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I just find it refreshing to find a positive depiction of step-parents.
Greetings fellow carbon-based bipedal lifeforms!
Why would you let your cat outside if you KNOW there's an animal abuser in the neighborhood???
Poor old lady tho
See. Some of these are well deserved from the abuse given to the victim, some of these are chain reactions caused by petty rivalries
I know for a fact that gods and goddesses of old that were related to cats would make cat haters lives a complete nightmare.
Wow,I am this early.
Great vid btw
Dumping the ashes was appropriate. It is reasonable to assume the late wife wanted no more to do with an insane husband who was probably just as mean to her.
Third?
Shizuko Rose KTK r/whoduckingcares
@@Nova_fox_yt
The 3-seconds you wasted on a comment couldve been used to find a cure for AIDS or something productive.
Shizuko Rose KTK the ten seconds that you used to type your comment basically made me waste three again r/whoduckingcares
Shizuko Rose KTK but again smart argument
first DNA case was 94 if I remember right but at that time it could take a while for testing and was very expensive.
HA! Pissin in evil mom's iced tea for years? Now THAT'S one heck of a "nuclear iced tea" recipe!
When I need to do work involving my hands, these stories are great to listen to when I don't have the luxury of watching the screen. Thank you!
You're wrong, Fluff. Old lady isn't evil, she's wicked good.
Honestly, I don't think they went far enough with the vandalism. Even dumping his wife's ashes I don't think was enough.
"I'll keep on doing it and there is nothing you could do about it"
"Well we tried the diplomatic ways..."
*lights up Molotov cocktail*
1. If you abuse an animal you own it's one thing, and bad enough. If you abuse animals who live with others, there is no forgiving you.
2. If this woman was killed for what she did to her own son, it couldn’t happen enough times for any kind of peace between them. And that's if she were immortal.
Im proud of the second guy 👌 he was saving for his precious mom some money for her ice tea by using his precious Pee to fill it up...such lovely son!
Your an absolute star! Blood means nothing, shes an abhorrent woman and an even worse mother. You did the right thing, her presence in the world for 40+ years has bought nothing but misery to the vulnerable. She deserves nothing less than a cage. You will shine bright and end the cycle of abuse. Well done and best of luck to you x
If my cat was one of the ones who was captured and/or killed, the last words that old man would ever hear again would be "I don't have a fucking problem with prison"
Not saying the kids shoulda dumped the wife's ashes, but keep in mind that the kids who did it were KIDS, plus- the wife didn't care and the husband had taken multiple loved ones away from multiple people, some of them in a horrid, painful way. He was lucky nobody decided to do to her exactly what she'd done to the cats
Too many people worried about the wife's ashes. Once the body is ashes, I do not consider that any different, or any more significant than what comes out of a fireplace. My older brother's ashes resides with me for now and I find him quite useful as a footstool, a just reward for having cheated for 20 years on the sweet woman who loved him and took care of him for 40 years. We found out about the cheating only after he died.
Wtf? 😂
The last story, the revenge was FANTASTIC!!!
Great job and I do hope you and your siblings lives turn out well and so much better for her 'removal', good on you
What a horrific old man. Just disgusting, so disgusting.
The ashes though... oof. I don’t care about him, but I’m going to have to tell myself the same thing as Fluff. Honestly, he has to be some type of f-ed up even before war or wife died. Grief and trauma doesn’t make someone proud of filling innocent kitties’ bellies with glass. That darkness was in his soul already.