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- Hats styles in the Old West
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People definitely took more pride in how they dressed back then. Lots of info, thanks for sharing.
I think that every time I go to the supermarket and see some lady buying cigarettes in her pajamas.
@@ArizonaGhostriders besides that a hat was needed to keep the sun out of their eyes
@@eliotreader8220 yes, I wear a cowboy hat, not because of the style of how functional it is keep the sun off my face and neck and it looks nice too
Hats are both functional and fashionable. A cowboy or laborer needed function while a townie often sought fashion. Great video.
Thanks!
That "Montana crease" was the most popular crown shape in Mexico for a very long time. Hats made of palm, felt, or rabbit fur of various styles and purposes all shared that crease
Kepis were around as well as foragers caps from military service. I sport a kepi pretty regularly even today. Works well with this high backed seats we got in semis these days, and I keep my mule kick around for more inclimate weather...snow rain, etc. I know, I'm odd. But the fade of my hats was earned not made. Lol
Yeah, they work better in vehicles than cowboy hats, I'm sure!
19th century Kepis are the best looking hats of that time, IMHO.
i want to get a palm leaf hat 'cause they keep your head cooler you can shape them.don't know if it's historically accurate but i have other hats that are if needed.just want it to wear around town in an AZ. summer.
Funny Video!
Btw in Victorian Times, you never told a woman that she spotted her skirt (you know, her period). Instead you told her 'Pardon me ma'am, but that horse you're riding has a leaky saddle.
(Yes, that's a joke)
I guess you could call rhat the Victorian period.
HAHAHAH!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Santee I adore you literally
@@avlrez Much appreciated!
@@ArizonaGhostriders holy lord you responded I literally love you so much
You know something as simple as the dance I guess in the hat I've noticed but never really paid attention to. You learn something new everyday. Yee Haw🤠
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I will trade you 2 refined for those hats, no refunds
HA!
Oh ho a team fortress 2 reference!
When Santee's top hat is an actual top hat it's going to be a top notch hats episode.
Hmmm.....may have to use that one.
Odessa is a Calico Regular! I've known her for a long time playing banjo at events in Calico Ghost Town in Yermo.
She's good people.
Great Show !!!!!!!
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There used to be a Stetson factory outlet store in Danbury Connecticut. I bought a fedora there and paid by cheque. They never deposited the cheque and I later found out they had gone out of business. So, the hat was free and it eventually became a free lunch for moths. Danbury was once known as "hat city."
Wow!!!
Over my short life I have had two cowboy hats.My first I got around when I was 6-8 years old.It was a white felt hat.Looked pretty similar to the hat used in the ‘hats on a budget video’.My second I got this year when I’m 14 becoming fifteen in a few months.It is a fake leather hat I got in the Gold Coast from a souvenir shop.It ain’t much but I like it.
Then rock it, young man! When you get older your tastes may change yet again and there may be another hat! It's exciting, really!
Arizona Ghostriders I hope to make as much use out of my current But leather doesn’t really change it shape on it own.
@@liamgalwey5616 over use it will. When you sweat in it or it gets wet, there's a great chance it will change Especially if it is not re-molded some back to the original shape before it dries.
Arizona Ghostriders I thought you had to use proper water.Thought sweat had too much salt in it
I am fascinated by hats and particularly Victorian-Edwardian hats. Good video.
Thank you.
The "Montana crease" looks familiar... inspiration for the hats worn by the National Parks Ranger, mayhaps?
Yes!!
As you probably know the Derby, or Bowler hat, originated as the head wear for the bailiff's who were local police for large British country estates in the 19th century. The were worn to protected the head while riding in case they had a collision with tree branches while on the look out for poachers.
I didn't know that. Thanks. I will probably do one on Derby's at some point.
I could stand out in a North Dakota wind storm and my cowboy hat ain’t going nowhere. Lol
Wow! That's a good fit.
@@ArizonaGhostriders 71/8 on the nose.
Stylish hats! The old myth created by Hollywood black hats for outlaws and white for the the heroes...has myth goes always sounds great to me Santee!
Thank you!
The two hats that stick out to me is, Abe Lincoln and Hoss Cartwright..........
And tall ones
Good times lol.Love the hat vids.I need to get a couple of mine refitted and steamed.Too bad mr Holster ain't close by ,he is the hat master.I would like to get my resistol silver color that ive had for 15 yrs fitted and formed.I have more of a oval shape and i think not knowing i got more of a round version years ago.Thanks for sharing.I would like to see some vids of your local western stores since you guys are in the heart of western hat and boots lol.I did get a pair of tony lamas from the factory back in the early ninties in el paso when my x and i met up with former chief of police in el paso .Bet he had some stories from 70's .He new the lama family etc.Good times.
Batjac and I will post some vids from local western stores for you. Cool about the boots.
Thank you kind sir.I and many others i am sure,would appreciate it.Have a good day.
Another good video. I wonder how I missed your channel all this time.
Thanks!
Great channel. ....a breath of fresh air.
good morning Big Cheese! Hat "handling" seems to be one of your hidden talents !
Yeah, I was in the theatre a lifetime ago. Learned some things. Cane tricks, walking on barrels, that sort of thing.
Very cool video! I have several cowboy hats of different styles! Never owned a derby or a top hat! Hmm lol
You should!
Santee, good to not have to drive so far to get to see you again!
Cap'n Billy
The Bowler (called a derby in the US) was the most popular cowboy hat in the old west. It had good utility for work, and looked good when dressed up in town. Hat kept out the rain and sun, and kept in the body heat.
Not so much down here in the Southwest. The brim didn't do a lot of good keeping the sun out. Larger brims were the key, here. However, in town it was the perfect hat, and very common.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Of course there was variation by area, but broadly speaking it was the most popular hat in the old west. Notwithstanding what Gene Autry wore in the movies.
The fruit hat 😂 I was wondering what the old west pimp hat looked like
Just like that! LOL!
Love your videos, educational and funny ,
Thank you!
I really like my straw Stetson. I have one made by Resistol also.
Great companies!
As the Stetson only appeared in 1865, was there a particularly popular "cowboy hat" before this time, or what would look authentic for, say, the 1850s?
There were a lot of wide-brim low crowned hats out there. Not too dissimilar to Stetson's style.
Stacking Hats on top of each other. That is Exactly what Top Hat Society Leaders do. They Stack Two or more hats on their heads to make themselves look cooler.
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Hey Santee
Do a video on enlisted soldier in the old west. How they lived and their duties. What they did after their enlistment .
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Thanks, Benny. Appreciate your service, too, Marine. Semper Fi.
I like it Santee, you always bring up interesting views of the West.
Thank you very much, Bob!
Love Pine Ridge style
ok!
Arizona Ghostriders Watched and liked.
I love his black hat he wears......classic
Thank you!
Nice magpul tshirt
Nice vid, never leave the house without mine, even just to the mailbox (65 and counting, grey gus, favorite)🤠🔫
WOW!
I think you're confusing the Montana peak crease with the Montana crease. The Montana crease (more often called the Gus crease now) is what the fella on the right, eatin' yer grapes is wearing at the end of the vid.
I think you may be right!
great stuff as always...would you consider doing a how to clean your hat video? I have an outback trading company Kodiak hat, and the sweat band could use some cleaning and I'm sure the inside of the hat in general could use some cleaning. I mean the outside I've seen the hat sponges and such, but how do you maintain the inside? I'm sure wearing them all the time in all sorts of heat will get them pretty dirty, even on the inside.
I will do that. Make me think that I gotta clean mine!
Would be good to see how the various hats are made
One day I'll have to interview a hatter.
Totally diggin your channel. My friend and I will be at the 25th anniversary release of Tombstone. You guys gonna be there?
Gonna try! Thanks for watching.
Note the NUTRIA fur....they were imported to WA and OR, as beaver pelts became more scarce. interesting fact: the nutria is a FISH....by Papal decree. The natives of South America were totally dependent upon the nutria for food, but the Pope said they must eat fish on Friday. That caused an uproar, so the Pope declared the nutria to be a fish....problem solved. Next time you’re out eating salmon, say: “I don’t know...Mine tastes like nutria.”
Interesting facts! Thanks.
Weird question, were stampede strings used back then?
Yes. There is documentation and photos.
1:46 I've actually considered that
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Did they ever wear "crushables" historically? Or was it typically the stiffer style hat?
Stiffer. I'm sure there was a crushable hat in the mix.
Seems like the hats made up a big part of their identity. Good stuff. I wonder how many hats a person trys on to get just the right look?
83 to be exact. HA!
I believe it...this long and I still have not found one that suits me...
Have you tried something like I wear with a big, somewhat flat brim? Those tend to look good on a lot of folks...including Sophia Loren.
I will remember that.
funny stuff. hahahahaha thanks for naming the hat store.
You got it, brother!
Where are some places that sell actual hats like these and are good
Goodwill sometimes has Stetsons, Resistol, and Baileys and great prices (used). New ones can be had at Wild West Mercantile and River Junction Trade co.
Arizona Ghostriders thank you so much
I've always wanted an Annie Oakley style ladies Stetson
I bet you can find them. If not, have one custom made!
LOL - good one guys!
Thanks!
Hat wise, my brother thinks I'm a derby guy.🤠
Popular hat! Both good guys and bad guys wore 'em.
I had an older friend gove me his old dingy hat and I put it under warm water and reshape it to a calvary pitch and flat brim
Nice job!
What kind of hat crease do you have santee??
I don't have a crease. It's a telescope crown. Over the years there's a faint dent or two.
I have a question for Dan. Was Santee ever in a barbershop quartet?
Dan's tied up with a gig, but I can tell you no, he was not. -Santee
@@ArizonaGhostriders Not trying to be mean but I saw the straw hat so I had to ask.
Is Batjac of Batjac's hats his real name? That was also the name of John Wayne's production company
That's whay he uses the name. Big JW fan.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Me too! I have 100 of The Duke's films in my collection!
Just curious. At 1:14 Stetson's advertisement says the hat is made from nutria fur. Words tend to change over time, but the nutria I know about are semi aquatic RATS, not beavers. Was Stetson using cheap South American rat fur, or was "nutria" another name for beaver at the time?
Islander 113, I'm not an expert, but from what I've read nutria makes a fine felt. Supposedly, it's better than rabbit fur felt, so it's used a lot in blends.
@@guylewis7418 Thanks for the attempt, but that really doesn't answer my question. Thanks again.
Nutria is not actually a beaver. However, that was not used until 1900.
"What are you do-...Hey! Are you guys eating my hat!?"
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@@ArizonaGhostriders I love the hat.
Can you do a vid on pinned up hats? or just slouch hats?
I've mentioned the pinned up hats from the cavalry. They actually had a hat with clips on it so you could raise the brim that way. Cool.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh my god you responded that's so cool! And thank you I had no idea I' have been trying to pin up this one hat years ago and I gave up on it. I had no idea you could make clips for it in order to pin it up.
Hey Santee, got another quick question, I sent you a tweet about this but I'm not sure you saw. I've got a Civil War US Cavalry hat I love wearing, and it has one side of the brim pinned to the crown of the hat. Now I was thinking of getting another one, but without the emblems and cord for my Deputy Character to replace his Well worn bowler hat (whihc I also wear in RL so she's in dire need of replacement) but I don't know if Civilians did the same thing, pinning one side of the brim to the corwn, as I know that in the army they used ot do that to make sure their hat wasn't in the way of their gun.
There was actually a hat during the Indian Wars that had hooks for this very reason. I mention it in the Dressing the Part: Cavalry episode. I'm sure a civilian would do it, if there were a purpose for it.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you very much, I haven't watch the cavalry episode yet, hence why I didn't know. I'll keep this in mind, thank you c:
How common were stovepipe hats during the days of the old west. I know they were popular during the early to mid 19th century but what about mid to late 19th century.
It was popular up until the mid-1900's. Mostly associated with formal wear...like today.
Would this include tophats? I have nice one I would like to use but can't prove it woulda been used by common folk(like a scout, hunter, outlaw)
Plains Indians and tophats....www.thefreelibrary.com/Top+hats+on+the+plains.-a0148358497
Crow Indians, ca 1900....I think they may have just been given these hats as gifts... not sure they woulda worn them daily. Still a cool image....www.pinterest.com/pin/253820128976534549/?%24ios_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549&%24android_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549&_client_id=ZCxDdI5tkRGdNgxKbRtK4y-Hcmkq-Y69DNH5J3RNYjy2WV0WrRNqTTLdwsH02GM1¤t_page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Famp%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549%2F&install_id=44f647c49659470dadec029717203710&%24fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549%2F%23details&_branch_match_id=719064337658829321#details
Hey Santee is there much info about tattoos
I did a video on tattoos.
Is it true that Billy the Kid like to wear or preferred the sombrero?
Many southwestern folks wore sombreros. Including Texas Rangers, cowboys, and outlaws. I've read that Mr. Bonney did fancy one. True West Magazine's Bobe Boze Bell did some artist renderings with Billy in a sombrero.
The "Sugarloaf" truewestmagazine.com/history-of-the-cowboy/
Hey Santee! Do you know any good places to get a Sugarloaf Sombrero at? I’m looking for a decent one but ain’t like a 1000$
A fellow named RJ Preston makes them from scratch. His are great!
facebook.com/rj.preston.14
Charley Russel and Fredrick Remmington painted cowboys with a very wide brim and a high crown and a light color what were these toppers and why black in the southwest there wasn't any air conditioning and it does get warm even in October......
It does get warm. Black was a classy color. Not seen a lot on cowboys but on society folks.
Do a video on leather wristbands or cuffs they are called
Will do.
Santee, you do look a lot like Randy Quaid, a lot.
The only thing I see now is cattlemans crease
Yes, it definitely seems that way.
My cousin is stupid everytime his horse gets out of the barn he has me get it back in the barn cause he dont know how
@@rebelcowboy6959 HA!
How many hats has Rex eaten?
Off the head: 3
On the head.....about 86
@@ArizonaGhostriders poor Rex, he's just a big misunderstood boy.
Carmen Miranda.
It happens
HAVE YOU DONE ONE ON HAT RESHAPEING
Yes!
I love your shows, however i only wish they were not so darn short. I really think that you could do so much more if you were to put more imagination In your content. Just a suggestion, and thanks for listening. The Kilted Vagabond.
Mark, I work a day job and make the videos in whatever time I can find. Now, if you'd like to fund me, I'd be happy to make longer videos!🤠
Do you want on old West guns
Santee, the Carmen Miranda look suits you.
LOL!
Hi Santee, I normally keep my Stetson in its box but can I hang it from elk antlers? The only thing that’s stopping me is the fear that I’ll misshape or damage my hat. Any help would be appreciated
It may alter the shape slightly, but usually not too bad. you could put a hat stretcher in the crown to keep the shape.
What were the most common hat creases in the southwest?
Austin, many photos depict an open or flat crown (like in the movie Tombstone). Not to say there weren't creases, because you do see them. A lot of them seem to have no common shape. Just sorta random dents in the hat.
Where did you get that blue hat
It's a train conducter hat I found online. Re-made the brim for a prison guard hat.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks
This is the kind of stuff that no one thinks about. The kind of stuff that would trip up time travelers...
"Sure, he's got that nifty lay-zar gun but he's so dumb he doesn't even have the sense to wear a proper hat!" /;-)
HA! That's funny.
lol great video
Thank you, Led!
Do you know what the common hats where in the southeast were ?
I see a lot of photos where they wear what looks like a slouch hat or variety of it. Floppy brims. Due to the heat, A lot of straw hats, too.
So that's what they mean when they say the hat was a staple of the old west.
Yes!
Funny!
Thanks!
Valve approved video.
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Everyone likes to mention that the Stetson "Boss of the Plains" was made from beaver fur. In reality it was made from Nutria, which, if you have ever seen one, bears no resemblance to a beaver. It's a type of giant water rat. So essentially, as good as an original Stetson is, it's still made from rat fur. Just a thought.
Actually, it wasn't until 1900 that they started using Nutria. So, the originals, from what I can tell, are beaver.
@@ArizonaGhostriders damn son you bodied him
All kinds all shapes not just stetson .
Stetson is a company, not a shape.
@@ArizonaGhostriders true true true
a lot of your videos are way to short.... This one like most of them just gets going and funny and then, it's over. :'(
who else is watching this with their papas beaver felt resistol
lol!
I got a TF2 flashback from looking at the thumbnail
🧐 bully!.
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