You should have explained the icon. It depicts a historic event in which Marcion provided copies of the epistles of Paul to the Apostle John. Imagine that an apostle would have need of a "heretic" to acquire New Testament scripture! Marcion was a far greater bishop in the early church then most realize! The icon also represents how Marcion, as a scribe, wrote the Gospel of John as the Apostle John dictated it to him! Yes, the first written copy of the Gospel of John was written by Marcion! Marcionism rules!
If that is true, then I'm not surprised. The gospel of John has persuaded the Protestants that they do not need to confess their sins. This idea -- the Gospel of John taken apart from the rest -- is fast filling up Jehenna.
Good and edifying sermon Father. Today, Marcionism is gaining ground through end time philosophies like political correctness, liberalism and inclusiveness. May God help us to remain faithful to Jesus to the End.
Great point about how Modernism and having a disdain for past practices is actually a subtle resurgence of Marcianism. I see this All. The. Time. And it's more subtle than perhaps the worst offenses of the 70s-90s: priests will wear their clericals but scoff at cassocks. Women young and old will spend holy hours in Eucharistic adoration but not dare wear a chapel veil. People will yearn for and have a desperate desire for an authentic relationship with Christ, but say the holy rosary "just doesn't do it for them."
1 Timothy 4:10 New International Version 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
Marcion did NOT remove the parts of the Bible that he didn't like. Those other things were added to turn people away from his way of thinking. It's called syncretism. Something your kind are masters of. Can you not see the plethora of pagan Influences all over your architecture, your holidays, your traditions.
yes, he certainly did, and all heresiarchs do. you cannot Read Scripture and not be Catholic, so they lie. The Church Created ALL you know and ALL you take for granted. you lose it without your Remaining Catholic Capital. you cannot deny this, but you can see it happen to you first hand. there is no "pagan influence" in The Church. The Church is all-encompasing, Catholic, Universal. pagans did try to steal from The Church to try to win back Converts but no one back then was so st*pid. No, those st*pid people are modern, sadly.
Most of the reasoning I hear for innovations had to do with a desire to return things to the way they were done in the early Church and therefore to be closer to 'how Christ intended them to be.' They do have a disdain for the old ways but as being medieval inventions and constructs that over time built up this sort of unnecessary and superfluous edifice that distanced us from Christ. I guess in their wisdom we had it all wrong from Nicea until Vatican II. But now, thank God for their new and fresh approach to save us from how we went astray for 16 centuries! Reminds me of the arrogance of the Protestant revolutionaries who thought that the Church had it wrong for more than a millennia but that now they totally got it right.This new Marcianism is not so much a Theological herecy as Marcian taught falsely about the nature of God, but is rather now an Ecclesiological herecy: teaching falsely about the nature of the Church.
It was rather hard for Marcion to "exclude" anything from the New Testament, because in his time there was no canon which means there was no New Testament. On the contrary, he may be responsible for forcing a canon and a New Testament to coalesce, since the church needed to propose its own canon body of writing in order to counter Marcion's canon. And anyway, listening to two Christians with a disagreement argue which one of them is the "heretic" is a bit like watching two bald men fight over a comb.
What is Right is Right if no one is Right, what is wrong is wrong even if no one is wrong. a heretic is a man who rejects all Reality as it comes from outside himself, and worships any stray idea within no matter how absurd. heresy is the true form of the reprobate mind. The Church was there, you are still trying to drag others to h*ll with you by the mortal sin of despair. Scripture was Collected in The First Century and Translated In The Second By St Jerome. a heresiarch cannot "canonize" anything, and you are just blaspheming again to try to get God to str*ke you down. Also, it is immensely important, as I am telling you what it buys you. The Bible Was Collected into one Library (Bible Means "Library") By St John and St Polycarp at the end of The First Century. The 73 Books of The Bible was Written by The Prophets Of The Old Covenant. The Old Testament was Written by Prophets of the Old Covenant. The New Testament was Written by The Last Prophets of the Old Covenant and The First Bishops of The New AND Eternal Covenant. The Prophets who wrote each are named in The Title Of The Book. Except in the case of St Mark (The First Papal Secretary, Should have been a Bishop too) who gave St Peter's Word Posthumously and St Luke (Bishop and Episcopal Secretary/Physician to St Paul) who gave St Paul's Word Posthumously.
@@JPX7NGD You're talking a bunch of gobbledygook. The timeline for the emergence of a New Testament canon isn't historically unclear, nor is it some sort of matter of "what's right is right" in an objective sense - a canon is just a subjective consensus among a set of authorities who happen to agree on what material to include in the collection. There was no such canon in Marcion's time, so there was no canonical materal for him to exclude in some sort of heretical fashion. He was, instead, trying to create a canon, which was something that didn't exist yet. Other church fathers didn't like his opinions, so they decreed him heretical and proceeded to create their own canon to settle the question. That's all.
@@wasd____ That is what is Good and True, which marcion rejected for delusions of "ye will be like gods" as he was a par excellance gnostic. the very same religion from cain that says one will "be like gods" via wishful thinking that you pretend is "knowing" that bends reality to the demon in your head you call an ego. I Am Speaking Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law. I speak Reality as it Actually Happened and you response is to deny it because you refuse to accept anything outside yourself (like Reality) and supp on f*c*l matter like gnosticism, devilry, and wishful thinking. that is heresy par excellence, which I explained and you ignored for the same reason marcion did. What is Loosed on earth is Loosed in Heaven. The Bishops are the Successors of The Apostles, who are The Adopted Sons Of God. that you think you can deny all but your denial changes nothing about what is real.
@@JPX7NGD You're not "speaking love," you're just lecturing me sanctimoniously because you're not interested in listening to anyone, only in hearing yourself blow self-important hot air. You are ignorant and have nothing to say to me. You're muted. Goodbye.
I Am Speaking Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law. I am also Admonishing the sinner And Instructing the ignorant. After having listened to The Priest here speak, he says everything so conclusively I need nothing to add here.
a magnificient sermon. one of the best ive ever heard.uses typological catholic doctrine as a basis of history in a precise truthfull way:1) in the overarching and particular sense as well.2)he was able to relate communism, socialism, evolution,permisiveness(evol-ution is a sinfull way of thinking & acting, has nothing to do with emperical science) with the marcion heresy. Cor Maria Immaculata triumfare nunc.Amen( not sure about my latin).
No, it's not that there is two gods. It's that all of it is taken from many religions to piece this one together. Sometimes it even takes full lines from older religious texts.
Another re-emerging old heresy, in various guises, identified and refuted: Thanks be to GOD! Stay alert, my Catholic Brothers and Sisters, least you fall for Marcionism, in any form today, be it inside of, or outside of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
@@StevenKellyBelly Gospel means "The Good News." I assume you are trying to reference "magic" here to which Hillaire Belloc had your number. "Now the Manichean was so overwhelmed by the experience or prospect of suffering and by the appalling fact that his nature was subject to mortality, that he took refuge in denying the omnipotent goodness of a Creator. He said that evil was at work in the universe just as much as good; the two principles were always fighting as equals one against the other. Man was subject to the one just as much as to the other. If he could struggle at all he should struggle to join the good principle and avoid the power of the bad principle, but he must treat evil as an all-powerful thing. The Manichean recognized an evil god as well as a good god, and he attuned his mind to that appalling conception. Such a mood bred all sorts of secondary effects. In some men it would lead to devil worship, in many more to magic, that is a dependence on something other than one's own free will, to tricks by which we might stave off the evil power or cheat it. It also led, paradoxically enough, to the doing of a great deal of evil deliberately, and saying either that it could not be helped or that it did not matter, because we were in any case under the thrall of a thing quite as strong as the power for good and we might as well act accordingly. But one thing the Manichean of every shade has always felt, and that is, that matter belongs to the evil side of things. Though there may be plenty of evil of a spiritual kind yet good must be wholly spiritual. That is something you find not only in the early Manichean, not only in the Albigensian of the Middle Ages, but even in the most modern of the remaining Puritans. It seems indissolubly connected with the Manichean temper in every form. Matter is subject to decay and is therefore evil. Our bodies are evil. Their appetites are evil. This idea ramifies into all sorts of absurd details. Wine is evil. Pretty well any physical pleasure, or half-physical pleasure, is evil. Joy is evil. Beauty is evil. Amusements are evil-and so on. Anyone who will read the details of the Albigensian story will be struck over and over again by the singularly modern attitude of these ancient heretics, because they had the same root as the Puritans who still, unhappily, survive among us."
@@user-xd4rs6vr4n marcion is wrong about everything, and here is Venerable Fulton Sheen on you: “As all men are touched by God’s love, so all are also touched by the desire for His intimacy. No one escapes this longing; we are all kings in exile, miserable without the Infinite. Those who reject the grace of God have a desire to avoid God, as those who accept it have a desire for God. The modern atheist does not disbelieve because of his intellect, but because of his will; it is not knowledge that makes him an atheist…The denial of God springs from a man’s desire not to have a God-from his wish that there were no Justice behind the universe, so that his injustices would fear not retribution; from his desire that there be no Law, so that he may not be judged by it; from his wish that there were no Absolute Goodness, that he might go on sinning with impunity. That is why the modern atheist is always angered when he hears anything said about God and religion-he would be incapable of such a resentment if God were only a myth. His feeling toward God is the same as that which a wicked man has for one whom he has wronged: he wishes he were dead so that he could do nothing to avenge the wrong. The betrayer of friendship knows his friend exists, but he wished he did not; the post-Christian atheist knows God exists, but he desires He should not.”
@@JPX7NGD OK but Emperor Constantine wasn't told by Jesus to paint crosses on his army's shields so they could murder his enemies in a Roman Civil War. Emperor Constantine was a heretic who boiled his wife to death and every branch of Christianity that derives from Constantine (Roman Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Protestantism and Fulton Sheen) are all heretics who worship Satan who is the god of this world, the Devil.
I can hear the anger in this man's voice. He needs JESUS in his life. Yahweh-jehovah is a controlling, deceiver. CHRIST is LORD. God is kind to both the good and evil (Matthew 5:44-45/Luke 6:36). Treat others as you'd like to be treated is Christ's Law (Matthew 7:12)
your views are a mix of gnosticism, satanism with a flavor of adventism and jehova's witness (and therefore freemasonry, but I already covered that with the first two). you are not Christian, you very clearly reject Heaven (not that you had a chance on your path, and your blaspheming will be answered in full no matter what) and even The Trinity. you seem to try to claim God Himself as mere "man" so that you can pretend to usurp Him. From Venerable Fulton Sheen about you: "I believe that the whole political and religious situation of the world can be summed up in terms of the divorce of Christ and His Cross. Put the Cross-less Christ on the right side, and the Christ-less Cross on the left. Who picks up the Crossless Christ? Our decadent Western civilization. This "Christ" is weak, eff*min*te, with no authority to drive buyers and sellers out of temples, and never speaks of self-discipline, restraint and mortification. Who picks up the Christless Cross? Russia and Ch*na, where there is a dedication to a common ideology, the use of discipline and authority to keep peace and order. But neither can heal. The, Crossless Christ leaves men burdened with their guilt which festers in a thousand psychosis and neuroses. The Christless Cross cannot save for it ends in D*ch*u, the G*l*g Archipelago and the squeezing of the lives of millions like grapes to make the collective wine of the State. Which will first find Christ with the Cross? The totalitarian states who have the Cross without Love, or the Western world which has “love” so often er*tic-without sacrifice? We do not know. But we do know that at the end of time, when the great battle between the forces of good and evil takes place, satan will appear without the Cross, as the Great Philanthropist and Social Reformer to become the final temptation of all mankind."
@@JPX7NGD I don't follow yahweh-jehovah. He's a deceiver according to Ezekiel 14:9, "And if the prophet is induced to speak anything, I the LORD have induced that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel." Also, a guy can be effeminate if he wants to. That's his freedom and he has the right to celebrate love. Philanthropy is great, because it's kind to help the poor who suffer and to be against oppression.
oh, star, you as a s*d*mite explains your open service to the antichrist and inversion of Truth through p*ss*ssion. your “philanthropy” is greed; the capital sin where you think the Property of others more rightfully belongs to you.
Love Is To Will The Good Of The Other As Other. Will is the capability to do Good. Good Is What Is Rightly Ordered, As God Created All To Be. since you do evil, you shutter the will and therefore not only know nothing of Love but are totally incapable of it. evil, as you are, is the absence of Good due to a d*ad soul, that then seeks to d*str*y all Goodness.
@@JPX7NGD I disagree with your definition of good. I do not believe that something is good just because someone ordained it so. That's just called following orders and not using critical thinking skills. My morality is based on not harming others, so a god who does nothing to stop violence and wants to add even more violence through global floods or fires is not a good god to be worshipping and worshipping such a god is not good for the well-being of society.
Tell me if you can explain why G-d required the Hebrews to worship Him and Him alone and severely punished them when they did not ... tell me why would he reveal himself as a totally different god in the Christian scriptures one who resembles no prophesy and then morphs under Hellenism into a trinity contained nowhere in the works of TeNak, Evangilists, Paul... why would He who is the eternally merciful G-d do this . So egomaniacs can say we know and you don’t we have faith and you don’t that we know the mind of g-d and you don’t. ?
God Is The Uncreated, Uncontingent Prime Mover Who is so far above His Creation that you can only Witness Him as He interacts with Creation. Perfection would refer to being Subsistent, ie Uncreated and Uncontingent. you don't know what this means. separation from God is d*ath. you were allowed to be born here instead of directly in h*ll to allow you this chance to Repent. pagan "gods" also called demons, are simple, d*ad, d*mned, created, contingent beings like you. unlike you they are spirits and not Human. unlike you, they cannot Repent as they are already d*ad.
The only real observation is that you treat Marcion as a person whom, like Karl Marx, the leaders feared enough to send him away. But the transcripts and writings of Marcion became more important to the history of the church, especially the writing of the gospel Luke, as time went on. He is, therefore, nothing more than a person whose truth went unappreciated for his own times, despite your comparisons. Even though he was called a heretic by former interpreters of the gospels, he was a real man. The church took too spiritualist a course by rejecting him, and requiring its pontificate to make vows unto an ecumenical council. The Council of Trent was a faulty foundation, because they did not pick a regular person- they were they ones who diverged from the values/traditions of the roman empire that day, and not marcion. So you can reject Marcion or Jan Hus, but in truth Sensus Fidelium knows nothing of Marcion's actual habit; he uses the term marcionism as a term to describe "belittling anything we know of to be true and good". Marcion was not a belittler; he was a defender of his own faith principles. Whether people chose to reject that or not, does not prevent a man from speaking what he knows to be true. Marcion's own values would not be adequately reflected by what you call this, marcionism. You are only like the founders of the Catholic Church, trying to reject anyone who is like him, with a novel interpretation of history or the universe.
The Church is The Body Of Christ, The Bride Of Christ, and The Perfection Of Israel among other things. Made in 33AD as The Perfection Of Israel, The Church Created all you know and take for granted, and you lose it without your Remaining Catholic Capital. you are a gnostic who thinks he will "be like gods" through that gnosticism, most likely you ware b-washed into this through video games. so was marcion, just without the video games. marcion was a heresiarch who tried to push his dualistic gnosticism into The Church and is totally rejected as with all in h*ll and who have tried to hard to drag others to h*ll with them; like how you are doing right here. God does not need to take anything from the devil, and certainly nothing from devil worshipers who openly deny Him for the sake of their ego.
His grace is sufficient and the papacy is worshipping some babylonian deities. Creator will judge our hearts and every knee shall bow and tongue confess.
you are, like marcion, and infiltrator and a part of a coven without knowing it. St Peter is The First Pope. your attacks on him are very easy to see when one recognizes you as what you really are: you attack St Peter and are angry at him because 1) He is The Rock of The Church, not The Head (Who is God). 2) you cannot co-opt him. The Church Is Eternal, Immutable, Indefectible, Absolute, and most of all Catholic.
Marcionism makes some sense, which is probably why it got popular
Marcion predated trinitarian Christianity and his gospel may have predated the four canonical gospels as we know them today.
You should have explained the icon. It depicts a historic event in which Marcion provided copies of the epistles of Paul to the Apostle John. Imagine that an apostle would have need of a "heretic" to acquire New Testament scripture! Marcion was a far greater bishop in the early church then most realize! The icon also represents how Marcion, as a scribe, wrote the Gospel of John as the Apostle John dictated it to him! Yes, the first written copy of the Gospel of John was written by Marcion!
Marcionism rules!
If that is true, then I'm not surprised. The gospel of John has persuaded the Protestants that they do not need to confess their sins. This idea -- the Gospel of John taken apart from the rest -- is fast filling up Jehenna.
Adrian Cozad I am very interested. Would you mind sharing where this information is coming from?
The Jehennites have taunted the alignments of the living God for the final time!
Hi Adrian what is your source for this information?
@@millanmurray1382 there isn't any, gnostics believe that novelty justifies them.
Good and edifying sermon Father. Today, Marcionism is gaining ground through end time philosophies like political correctness, liberalism and inclusiveness. May God help us to remain faithful to Jesus to the End.
Marcion was right about Yahweh
1000% true
Thank you Father, I love your homilies. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽.
Marcion knew well enough to exclude John Gospel from his canon.
Great point about how Modernism and having a disdain for past practices is actually a subtle resurgence of Marcianism. I see this All. The. Time. And it's more subtle than perhaps the worst offenses of the 70s-90s: priests will wear their clericals but scoff at cassocks. Women young and old will spend holy hours in Eucharistic adoration but not dare wear a chapel veil. People will yearn for and have a desperate desire for an authentic relationship with Christ, but say the holy rosary "just doesn't do it for them."
Well said.
1 Timothy 4:10
New International Version
10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
Marcion did NOT remove the parts of the Bible that he didn't like. Those other things were added to turn people away from his way of thinking. It's called syncretism. Something your kind are masters of. Can you not see the plethora of pagan Influences all over your architecture, your holidays, your traditions.
yes, he certainly did, and all heresiarchs do. you cannot Read Scripture and not be Catholic, so they lie.
The Church Created ALL you know and ALL you take for granted. you lose it without your Remaining Catholic Capital. you cannot deny this, but you can see it happen to you first hand.
there is no "pagan influence" in The Church. The Church is all-encompasing, Catholic, Universal. pagans did try to steal from The Church to try to win back Converts but no one back then was so st*pid. No, those st*pid people are modern, sadly.
Most of the reasoning I hear for innovations had to do with a desire to return things to the way they were done in the early Church and therefore to be closer to 'how Christ intended them to be.' They do have a disdain for the old ways but as being medieval inventions and constructs that over time built up this sort of unnecessary and superfluous edifice that distanced us from Christ. I guess in their wisdom we had it all wrong from Nicea until Vatican II. But now, thank God for their new and fresh approach to save us from how we went astray for 16 centuries! Reminds me of the arrogance of the Protestant revolutionaries who thought that the Church had it wrong for more than a millennia but that now they totally got it right.This new Marcianism is not so much a Theological herecy as Marcian taught falsely about the nature of God, but is rather now an Ecclesiological herecy: teaching falsely about the nature of the Church.
Thank you Father!
It was rather hard for Marcion to "exclude" anything from the New Testament, because in his time there was no canon which means there was no New Testament. On the contrary, he may be responsible for forcing a canon and a New Testament to coalesce, since the church needed to propose its own canon body of writing in order to counter Marcion's canon.
And anyway, listening to two Christians with a disagreement argue which one of them is the "heretic" is a bit like watching two bald men fight over a comb.
What is Right is Right if no one is Right, what is wrong is wrong even if no one is wrong. a heretic is a man who rejects all Reality as it comes from outside himself, and worships any stray idea within no matter how absurd. heresy is the true form of the reprobate mind.
The Church was there, you are still trying to drag others to h*ll with you by the mortal sin of despair. Scripture was Collected in The First Century and Translated In The Second By St Jerome.
a heresiarch cannot "canonize" anything, and you are just blaspheming again to try to get God to str*ke you down.
Also, it is immensely important, as I am telling you what it buys you.
The Bible Was Collected into one Library (Bible Means "Library") By St John and St Polycarp at the end of The First Century.
The 73 Books of The Bible was Written by The Prophets Of The Old Covenant. The Old Testament was Written by Prophets of the Old Covenant. The New Testament was Written by The Last Prophets of the Old Covenant and The First Bishops of The New AND Eternal Covenant.
The Prophets who wrote each are named in The Title Of The Book. Except in the case of St Mark (The First Papal Secretary, Should have been a Bishop too) who gave St Peter's Word Posthumously and St Luke (Bishop and Episcopal Secretary/Physician to St Paul) who gave St Paul's Word Posthumously.
@@JPX7NGD You're talking a bunch of gobbledygook. The timeline for the emergence of a New Testament canon isn't historically unclear, nor is it some sort of matter of "what's right is right" in an objective sense - a canon is just a subjective consensus among a set of authorities who happen to agree on what material to include in the collection. There was no such canon in Marcion's time, so there was no canonical materal for him to exclude in some sort of heretical fashion. He was, instead, trying to create a canon, which was something that didn't exist yet. Other church fathers didn't like his opinions, so they decreed him heretical and proceeded to create their own canon to settle the question. That's all.
@@wasd____ That is what is Good and True, which marcion rejected for delusions of "ye will be like gods" as he was a par excellance gnostic. the very same religion from cain that says one will "be like gods" via wishful thinking that you pretend is "knowing" that bends reality to the demon in your head you call an ego.
I Am Speaking Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law. I speak Reality as it Actually Happened and you response is to deny it because you refuse to accept anything outside yourself (like Reality) and supp on f*c*l matter like gnosticism, devilry, and wishful thinking. that is heresy par excellence, which I explained and you ignored for the same reason marcion did.
What is Loosed on earth is Loosed in Heaven. The Bishops are the Successors of The Apostles, who are The Adopted Sons Of God.
that you think you can deny all but your denial changes nothing about what is real.
@@JPX7NGD You're not "speaking love," you're just lecturing me sanctimoniously because you're not interested in listening to anyone, only in hearing yourself blow self-important hot air. You are ignorant and have nothing to say to me. You're muted. Goodbye.
I Am Speaking Love, Absolute Truth, And Natural Law. I am also Admonishing the sinner And Instructing the ignorant. After having listened to The Priest here speak, he says everything so conclusively I need nothing to add here.
Many thanks. Very illuminating sermon.
May God help us to be always with Him.
Best wishes
a magnificient sermon. one of the best ive ever heard.uses typological catholic doctrine as a basis of history in a precise truthfull way:1) in the overarching and particular sense as well.2)he was able to relate communism, socialism, evolution,permisiveness(evol-ution is a sinfull way of thinking & acting, has nothing to do with emperical science) with the marcion heresy. Cor Maria Immaculata triumfare nunc.Amen( not sure about my latin).
Interesting ideas, I had always seen modernism as neo-pelagian
Please pray for me...for conversion and holiness...thank you...
No, it's not that there is two gods. It's that all of it is taken from many religions to piece this one together. Sometimes it even takes full lines from older religious texts.
THANK YOU.
Another re-emerging old heresy, in various guises, identified and refuted: Thanks be to GOD! Stay alert, my Catholic Brothers and Sisters, least you fall for Marcionism, in any form today, be it inside of, or outside of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
Marcion is right. Yahweh is Satan.
hehe that old Godspell of Luke is the best one though!
@@StevenKellyBelly Gospel means "The Good News." I assume you are trying to reference "magic" here to which Hillaire Belloc had your number.
"Now the Manichean was so overwhelmed by the experience or prospect of suffering and by the appalling fact that his nature was subject to mortality, that he took refuge in denying the omnipotent goodness of a Creator. He said that evil was at work in the universe just as much as good; the two principles were always fighting as equals one against the other. Man was subject to the one just as much as to the other. If he could struggle at all he should struggle to join the good principle and avoid the power of the bad principle, but he must treat evil as an all-powerful thing. The Manichean recognized an evil god as well as a good god, and he attuned his mind to that appalling conception.
Such a mood bred all sorts of secondary effects. In some men it would lead to devil worship, in many more to magic, that is a dependence on something other than one's own free will, to tricks by which we might stave off the evil power or cheat it. It also led, paradoxically enough, to the doing of a great deal of evil deliberately, and saying either that it could not be helped or that it did not matter, because we were in any case under the thrall of a thing quite as strong as the power for good and we might as well act accordingly.
But one thing the Manichean of every shade has always felt, and that is, that matter belongs to the evil side of things. Though there may be plenty of evil of a spiritual kind yet good must be wholly spiritual. That is something you find not only in the early Manichean, not only in the Albigensian of the Middle Ages, but even in the most modern of the remaining Puritans. It seems indissolubly connected with the Manichean temper in every form. Matter is subject to decay and is therefore evil. Our bodies are evil. Their appetites are evil. This idea ramifies into all sorts of absurd details. Wine is evil. Pretty well any physical pleasure, or half-physical pleasure, is evil. Joy is evil. Beauty is evil. Amusements are evil-and so on. Anyone who will read the details of the Albigensian story will be struck over and over again by the singularly modern attitude of these ancient heretics, because they had the same root as the Puritans who still, unhappily, survive among us."
@@user-xd4rs6vr4n marcion is wrong about everything, and here is Venerable Fulton Sheen on you: “As all men are touched by God’s love, so all are also touched by the desire for His intimacy. No one escapes this longing; we are all kings in exile, miserable without the Infinite. Those who reject the grace of God have a desire to avoid God, as those who accept it have a desire for God. The modern atheist does not disbelieve because of his intellect, but because of his will; it is not
knowledge that makes him an atheist…The denial of God springs from a man’s desire not to have a God-from his wish that there were no Justice behind the universe, so that his injustices would fear not retribution; from his desire that there be no Law, so that he may not be judged by it; from his wish that there were no Absolute Goodness, that he might go on sinning with impunity. That is why the modern atheist is always angered when he hears anything said about God and religion-he would be incapable of such a resentment if God were only a myth. His feeling toward God is the same as that which a wicked man has for one whom he has wronged: he wishes he were dead so that he could do nothing to avenge the wrong. The betrayer of friendship knows his friend exists, but he wished he did not; the post-Christian atheist knows God exists, but he desires He should not.”
@@JPX7NGD OK but Emperor Constantine wasn't told by Jesus to paint crosses on his army's shields so they could murder his enemies in a Roman Civil War. Emperor Constantine was a heretic who boiled his wife to death and every branch of Christianity that derives from Constantine (Roman Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Protestantism and Fulton Sheen) are all heretics who worship Satan who is the god of this world, the Devil.
Excellent. Thank you Father.
Theology , theologised, worship of lucifer the fallen angel fallen world and fallen man. Jesus said , i and my father is not of this word.
That heretic sounds like a modern day protestant baptist dispensationalist.....
Heretic-Martian...
you are a jewish christian
protestantism is the synthesis of all heresies.
Wow really surprised at how many legit Marcionists there are in the comments on this...
I can hear the anger in this man's voice. He needs JESUS in his life. Yahweh-jehovah is a controlling, deceiver. CHRIST is LORD. God is kind to both the good and evil (Matthew 5:44-45/Luke 6:36). Treat others as you'd like to be treated is Christ's Law (Matthew 7:12)
your views are a mix of gnosticism, satanism with a flavor of adventism and jehova's witness (and therefore freemasonry, but I already covered that with the first two). you are not Christian, you very clearly reject Heaven (not that you had a chance on your path, and your blaspheming will be answered in full no matter what) and even The Trinity. you seem to try to claim God Himself as mere "man" so that you can pretend to usurp Him.
From Venerable Fulton Sheen about you:
"I believe that the whole political and religious situation of the world can be summed up in terms of the divorce of Christ and His Cross. Put the Cross-less Christ on the right side, and the Christ-less Cross on the left. Who picks up the Crossless Christ? Our decadent Western civilization. This "Christ" is weak, eff*min*te, with no authority to drive buyers and sellers out of temples, and never speaks of self-discipline, restraint and mortification.
Who picks up the Christless Cross? Russia and Ch*na, where there is a dedication to a common ideology, the use of discipline and authority to keep peace and order. But neither can heal. The, Crossless Christ leaves men burdened with their guilt which festers in a thousand psychosis and neuroses. The Christless Cross cannot save for it ends in D*ch*u, the G*l*g Archipelago and the squeezing of the lives of millions like grapes to make the collective wine of the State.
Which will first find Christ with the Cross? The totalitarian states who have the Cross without Love, or the Western world which has “love” so often er*tic-without sacrifice? We do not know. But we do know that at the end of time, when the great battle between the forces of good and evil takes place, satan will appear without the Cross, as the Great Philanthropist and Social Reformer to become the final temptation of all mankind."
@@JPX7NGD I don't follow yahweh-jehovah. He's a deceiver according to Ezekiel 14:9, "And if the prophet is induced to speak anything, I the LORD have induced that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel." Also, a guy can be effeminate if he wants to. That's his freedom and he has the right to celebrate love. Philanthropy is great, because it's kind to help the poor who suffer and to be against oppression.
oh, star, you as a s*d*mite explains your open service to the antichrist and inversion of Truth through p*ss*ssion.
your “philanthropy” is greed; the capital sin where you think the Property of others more rightfully belongs to you.
Love Is To Will The Good Of The Other As Other. Will is the capability to do Good. Good Is What Is Rightly Ordered, As God Created All To Be. since you do evil, you shutter the will and therefore not only know nothing of Love but are totally incapable of it.
evil, as you are, is the absence of Good due to a d*ad soul, that then seeks to d*str*y all Goodness.
@@JPX7NGD I disagree with your definition of good. I do not believe that something is good just because someone ordained it so. That's just called following orders and not using critical thinking skills. My morality is based on not harming others, so a god who does nothing to stop violence and wants to add even more violence through global floods or fires is not a good god to be worshipping and worshipping such a god is not good for the well-being of society.
Tell me if you can explain why G-d required the Hebrews to worship Him and Him alone and severely punished them when they did not ... tell me why would he reveal himself as a totally different god in the Christian scriptures one who resembles no prophesy and then morphs under Hellenism into a trinity contained nowhere in the works of TeNak, Evangilists, Paul... why would He who is the eternally merciful G-d do this . So egomaniacs can say we know and you don’t we have faith and you don’t that we know the mind of g-d and you don’t. ?
God Is The Uncreated, Uncontingent Prime Mover Who is so far above His Creation that you can only Witness Him as He interacts with Creation.
Perfection would refer to being Subsistent, ie Uncreated and Uncontingent. you don't know what this means.
separation from God is d*ath. you were allowed to be born here instead of directly in h*ll to allow you this chance to Repent.
pagan "gods" also called demons, are simple, d*ad, d*mned, created, contingent beings like you. unlike you they are spirits and not Human. unlike you, they cannot Repent as they are already d*ad.
The only real observation is that you treat Marcion as a person whom, like Karl Marx, the leaders feared enough to send him away. But the transcripts and writings of Marcion became more important to the history of the church, especially the writing of the gospel Luke, as time went on. He is, therefore, nothing more than a person whose truth went unappreciated for his own times, despite your comparisons. Even though he was called a heretic by former interpreters of the gospels, he was a real man. The church took too spiritualist a course by rejecting him, and requiring its pontificate to make vows unto an ecumenical council. The Council of Trent was a faulty foundation, because they did not pick a regular person- they were they ones who diverged from the values/traditions of the roman empire that day, and not marcion. So you can reject Marcion or Jan Hus, but in truth Sensus Fidelium knows nothing of Marcion's actual habit; he uses the term marcionism as a term to describe "belittling anything we know of to be true and good". Marcion was not a belittler; he was a defender of his own faith principles. Whether people chose to reject that or not, does not prevent a man from speaking what he knows to be true. Marcion's own values would not be adequately reflected by what you call this, marcionism. You are only like the founders of the Catholic Church, trying to reject anyone who is like him, with a novel interpretation of history or the universe.
The Church is The Body Of Christ, The Bride Of Christ, and The Perfection Of Israel among other things. Made in 33AD as The Perfection Of Israel, The Church Created all you know and take for granted, and you lose it without your Remaining Catholic Capital.
you are a gnostic who thinks he will "be like gods" through that gnosticism, most likely you ware b-washed into this through video games. so was marcion, just without the video games.
marcion was a heresiarch who tried to push his dualistic gnosticism into The Church and is totally rejected as with all in h*ll and who have tried to hard to drag others to h*ll with them; like how you are doing right here. God does not need to take anything from the devil, and certainly nothing from devil worshipers who openly deny Him for the sake of their ego.
love this priest!
Sorry but I have to say Propaganda for what it is... This was awful
For what? Refuting you totally. your path is wide and your conscience clearly bothers you,
His grace is sufficient and the papacy is worshipping some babylonian deities. Creator will judge our hearts and every knee shall bow and tongue confess.
you are, like marcion, and infiltrator and a part of a coven without knowing it.
St Peter is The First Pope. your attacks on him are very easy to see when one recognizes you as what you really are:
you attack St Peter and are angry at him because
1) He is The Rock of The Church, not The Head (Who is God).
2) you cannot co-opt him.
The Church Is Eternal, Immutable, Indefectible, Absolute, and most of all Catholic.
Hateful and ignorant.
Yes, you are.
Nicolaitans preach about Marcionsts...hahaha