Retired French rail rolling stock also made its way to Cuba during the 1990s and 2000s. The consist of Le Mistral went to Senegal and Mali in the 1990s, retrucked for metre gauge, to re equip Dakar-Bamako passenger service. By 2010 the whole thing ceased running after years of deterioration.
You should try "Šarganska osmica" (Sargan eight) from Mokra Gora to Šargan-Vitasi in Serbia. Considering you're huge enthusiast of trains, that's really returns you to the past.
You might be surprised but these ex-SNCF stock are better than what CFR can offer. While these RIO's are old they still do the job. I travelled last summer with one of them and the AC was working perfectly on a very hot day!
English is a great "mutt" language that's one of the easiest default languages; you can leave out whole words, miss-pronounce whatever you want, and no one on the other end cares. There's a reason airport towers and harbors use it. French and German on the otherhand...Dagger Stares.
@@Effonefiddygarage And due to cultural influence of Britain and the US it's just the most likely universal language, so it's the most likely to be able to communicate with a foreigner through it.
Most services in Romania are posted in both Romanian and English, even store clerks and similar jobs require English to be spoken. Many Romanians also speak French as the two languages have a common root.
If you want a truly amazing experience, take the 21:00 service from Bucharest to Constanta. Most of the time it is also a RIO train, running in pushing configuration, and the engineers are, lets say, a bit crazy. Since the engine is pushing, they might just go straight into full throttle when leaving a station :) Also it is almost always empty. I have been with it a few times. The most people I saw using it was 7 (including the conductor)
I am traveling with them every Friday to Brasov and slowly the company is changing the seats in all carriages to up to date. They are trying to save as much carriages as possible and also bringing new rolling stock.
I have a soft spot for any mainline rolling stock that looks like a subway metro. The RIO really looks like a mainline 81-717 that rolled out of some former Soviet system (yes, I know it's French).
I once recalled seeing a Rio set on a branch line in France being pushed by some kind of center cab engine. I can't remember where I saw it at in France but I only recall it likely being in the north of France or the West. And I cant for the love of it remember where it was.
My brother ,you should of came earlier in Romania to try the Zeta or Z3002 emus . They are from France too, and were operated by CFR Călători, all of them are scraped saddly ,but a new generation of Alston Coradia emu's will replace them.
I'm judging by the sound that the weird shaking was caused by the wheels not being a perfect circle so whenever the "flat" surface hit the rails it creates a level difference and bump with the other wheels on the same bogie, and hence that shaking around the trip.
I am surprised and wondering: Do they in romania have same electric system have as in france? It is common that old german streetcars (tramway) found their way to romania because tramways in europa run everywhere with 650 or 700 volt DC on one meter rails or 1,435 m like trains, but for trains even within one country like france different voltages and kind of electric exist. germany and some around had always 15 000 volt AC and 16 2/3 Hertz, but behind borders often the electric systems change and trains from one country cannot get used outside the original country. How is it here? Romania and france same system or got the trains modified?
Wow that was really interesting experience) So old train and still enough comfortable. If I understand correct, this is the cheapest and slowest train between Bucharest and Brasov?
There's another private operator, Transferoviar Calatori (TFC) which uses old dutch rolling stock. That might be interesting to take a look at as well.
Je me rappelle surtout du signal sonore des rames RIO jaunes Nord Pas de Calais lors du départ comme une trompette, très différent du buzzer des petits gris que se souviennent les Parisiens
Romanian folks are pretty good at maintaining SNCF rollling stocks, indeed. They had and possibily still have "caravelle" series. Aside, these BB 25000/17000 series deserve their nickname 'les danseuse", the view from the windows tells the story ! Belle vido en tous cas ! merci.
There are still a few Caravelles left, but they don't come to Bucharest anymore. Regio Călători started to bring ex-DB VT-628 and LHB VT 2E to replace them, while most RIOs were replaced by diesel X72500 (!), as diesel fuel is cheaper than electricity and the locomotives can easily be rented to freight companies.
3 RIO trainsets have been withdrawn from service and / or got impounded by Fiscal authorities, and sold as scrap. The 3 RIO trainsets should be resting in Covasna or Imeci railway stations, along ~ 10 EAD trainsets (some of them impounded, some broken down or heavy mechanical failures that are not worth repairing). As for the remaining trainsets, I doubt they could ever replace them with diesel XTER trainsets under catenary (which is a huge turn off in terms of eco-friendly transport). Even the XTER 72500 / 72700 are susceptible of overheating due to steep grades or too tight schedules. I wish they would have opted for renting Coradia trainsets together with the train paths, but our infrastructure company's policy is anti-electric traction (to use a path such as Bucharest to Sinaia, you need to pay 2 tolls - the path itself AND the catenary usage). Only stricter regulations from the European Union will push them to forbid diesel trams (including XTER) on completely electrified routes. Otherwise, nice review, I would rather choose a RIO trainset than a diesel tram with no windows (in case of bad heat).
N'hésites pas à faire un tour à Strasbourg où tu peux encore voyager, non pas dans les RIO, mais en RRR poussé en BB67000 (Saales Strasbourg le matin 6h11 et le soir Strasborug Saales a 20h04)
quand j allais a l ecole a menton depuis nice on prenait c est rame pour faire le trajet en 1982 j avais un collegue gitan il voulais jamais payer le train comme il etait tout maigre et petit on le cachait en haut dans le porte bagage et on mettaient nos sac devant ! le controleur du train en 2 ans ne c est jamais apercu de rien
Selling old trains is now impossible : EU regulations forbids the export of used equipment which contains hazardous material, like asbestos and the PCBs used to cool transformers. On one hand, it means that companies looking for cheap equipment because they cannot afford modern one can’t find any, on the other hand, it prevents the export of hazardous materials to countries that cannot properly dispose of them. Some unscrupulous European companies would be too happy to get rid of old stuff that will cost a fortune to depollute and export environmental concerns to some third world country.😤
Selling to non-EU countries, I suppose. Because the Portuguese state company bought old Spanish carriages some years ago, retired abestos and other damaging materials, refurbished them and now they look brand new. New ones would cost much more.
@@Mpl3564 refurbishment is possible. It is possible to sell and buy contaminated rolling stock, as long as it is supposed to be decontaminated by certified companies, not selling it for reuse as is.
Hard coded subtitles are bad. Having subtitles on YT would allow more people from entire world to see it thanks to thanks to auto translation. My father is old and he don't know English, yet he loves trains. Please consider it.
It's amazing how passengers block the aisles with luggage with complete disregard for other passengers passing through while conductors do nothing about the safety violation.
These trains are made to last forever. Too bad they are painted, a "natural" inox livery would be better. And it also seems that one of the command cabins is disabled.
I am just happy that the train is full of people. I don't know how long the so-called "developed" economies are going to sustain themselves by exporting their gold reserves - but they continue to be happy living without people around.
Yeah,Romania have the most old trains in Europe due to high corruption of the romanian governments which destroy romanian railways since 1989-present time.I'm a romanian citizen and i know what i'm speaking,i've been travel in Romania and Europe only with electric trains more than 600000km.
Retired French rail rolling stock also made its way to Cuba during the 1990s and 2000s.
The consist of Le Mistral went to Senegal and Mali in the 1990s, retrucked for metre gauge, to re equip Dakar-Bamako passenger service. By 2010 the whole thing ceased running after years of deterioration.
Romania is cutrently trying to modernize and replace rolling stock, as well as modifying and replacing old tracks.
Greetings from Romania!❤
Păcat ca nu s-a făcut mai repede.
Maybe not the stock of private actors like Regio Calatori though?
@@manu.yt25 the bid was opened to private companies too but they did not entertain the idea
You should try "Šarganska osmica" (Sargan eight) from Mokra Gora to Šargan-Vitasi in Serbia. Considering you're huge enthusiast of trains, that's really returns you to the past.
You might be surprised but these ex-SNCF stock are better than what CFR can offer. While these RIO's are old they still do the job. I travelled last summer with one of them and the AC was working perfectly on a very hot day!
They are like old Mercedes . Or old Peugeot. They are immortal.
I am actually really impressed that the station was doing announcements in English, i would not have expected that.
In Hungary we also have announcements in English for IC trains
Doing better on that front than several Western European countries xD
English is a great "mutt" language that's one of the easiest default languages; you can leave out whole words, miss-pronounce whatever you want, and no one on the other end cares. There's a reason airport towers and harbors use it.
French and German on the otherhand...Dagger Stares.
@@Effonefiddygarage And due to cultural influence of Britain and the US it's just the most likely universal language, so it's the most likely to be able to communicate with a foreigner through it.
Most services in Romania are posted in both Romanian and English, even store clerks and similar jobs require English to be spoken. Many Romanians also speak French as the two languages have a common root.
The blue and white double deckers on the first station look like ddr dostos (Wagonbau Görlitz).
That's exactly what they are.
In Poland we call those Bohuns. They are the same thing as these double decker carriages
A nostalgic ride for you. Nice to see old trains being given a new life. Thanks Thibault.💚👌👍
I traveled on these trains in the Paris suburbs so many times in the 80s. Yes certainly have ‘fond’ memories in particular the brake smell.
If you want a truly amazing experience, take the 21:00 service from Bucharest to Constanta. Most of the time it is also a RIO train, running in pushing configuration, and the engineers are, lets say, a bit crazy. Since the engine is pushing, they might just go straight into full throttle when leaving a station :)
Also it is almost always empty. I have been with it a few times. The most people I saw using it was 7 (including the conductor)
I am traveling with them every Friday to Brasov and slowly the company is changing the seats in all carriages to up to date. They are trying to save as much carriages as possible and also bringing new rolling stock.
No AC when they were under SNCF? Man i can only imagine what its like riding these in the middle of summer! 🥵
There is still a lot of train without AC on france
Really feel like being inside a oven
I have a soft spot for any mainline rolling stock that looks like a subway metro. The RIO really looks like a mainline 81-717 that rolled out of some former Soviet system (yes, I know it's French).
One of my favorite videos. Nostalgic, lots of passengers. Well done!👍
Great trip. It's great to see old train have second life in another country.
I rode in some of these trains along the Cote D'Azur when I visited there in 2008! They felt very dated lol
Nice trip back to school days
Haha, nice publicity for Ouigo :come travel on our service, and you'll have the same seat as on a Romanian regional train :D
excellent video! i have a rio npdc model in ho scale.
J’adore ces rames
I once recalled seeing a Rio set on a branch line in France being pushed by some kind of center cab engine. I can't remember where I saw it at in France but I only recall it likely being in the north of France or the West. And I cant for the love of it remember where it was.
It was the "camel" system, used in Picardie (around Paris-Beauvais line) during the early 2000 to put as much passengers as possible.
Interesting video. Good work. 👍
My brother ,you should of came earlier in Romania to try the Zeta or Z3002 emus . They are from France too, and were operated by CFR Călători, all of them are scraped saddly ,but a new generation of Alston Coradia emu's will replace them.
Je me rappelle du "Métralsace" à Strasbourg pendant ma jeunesse et des rames inox accouplées à des BB67000 en diesel et BB16500 en électrique
I'm judging by the sound that the weird shaking was caused by the wheels not being a perfect circle so whenever the "flat" surface hit the rails it creates a level difference and bump with the other wheels on the same bogie, and hence that shaking around the trip.
I visited Sinaia last year on a day trip from Bucharest. However, I used CFR trains. IR train out and a slower R train back.
It's high time you filmed the Belgrade-Bar line. Also Sarajevo - Mostar.
I am surprised and wondering: Do they in romania have same electric system have as in france? It is common that old german streetcars (tramway) found their way to romania because tramways in europa run everywhere with 650 or 700 volt DC on one meter rails or 1,435 m like trains, but for trains even within one country like france different voltages and kind of electric exist. germany and some around had always 15 000 volt AC and 16 2/3 Hertz, but behind borders often the electric systems change and trains from one country cannot get used outside the original country. How is it here? Romania and france same system or got the trains modified?
Wow that was really interesting experience) So old train and still enough comfortable. If I understand correct, this is the cheapest and slowest train between Bucharest and Brasov?
The train is the cheapest, but surprisingly enough not the slowest. The CFR Regio stops more frequently and somehow is 3 lei more expensive.
There's another private operator, Transferoviar Calatori (TFC) which uses old dutch rolling stock. That might be interesting to take a look at as well.
Not just ex-Dutch DH2 trains, but also ex-DB VT614 and VT624 + some Coradia Lint and Bombardier Talent.
As a french , I remember this train , I have only 16 years 😊
Please come to Spain and review the AVE S106 Avril to Asturias, or the Alvia S730 to Badajoz (Extremadura). They have finished works to improve it
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I don't follow...
why would the grade affect the push-pull operation?
do you have a source for this? I'm curious at this point...
Nice Video
Je me rappelle surtout du signal sonore des rames RIO jaunes Nord Pas de Calais lors du départ comme une trompette, très différent du buzzer des petits gris que se souviennent les Parisiens
Romanian folks are pretty good at maintaining SNCF rollling stocks, indeed. They had and possibily still have "caravelle" series. Aside, these BB 25000/17000 series deserve their nickname 'les danseuse", the view from the windows tells the story ! Belle vido en tous cas ! merci.
There are still a few Caravelles left, but they don't come to Bucharest anymore. Regio Călători started to bring ex-DB VT-628 and LHB VT 2E to replace them, while most RIOs were replaced by diesel X72500 (!), as diesel fuel is cheaper than electricity and the locomotives can easily be rented to freight companies.
@@transportromania Thank you for these complements !
Wait this train is still used, but in Romania?
3 RIO trainsets have been withdrawn from service and / or got impounded by Fiscal authorities, and sold as scrap. The 3 RIO trainsets should be resting in Covasna or Imeci railway stations, along ~ 10 EAD trainsets (some of them impounded, some broken down or heavy mechanical failures that are not worth repairing). As for the remaining trainsets, I doubt they could ever replace them with diesel XTER trainsets under catenary (which is a huge turn off in terms of eco-friendly transport). Even the XTER 72500 / 72700 are susceptible of overheating due to steep grades or too tight schedules. I wish they would have opted for renting Coradia trainsets together with the train paths, but our infrastructure company's policy is anti-electric traction (to use a path such as Bucharest to Sinaia, you need to pay 2 tolls - the path itself AND the catenary usage). Only stricter regulations from the European Union will push them to forbid diesel trams (including XTER) on completely electrified routes.
Otherwise, nice review, I would rather choose a RIO trainset than a diesel tram with no windows (in case of bad heat).
N'hésites pas à faire un tour à Strasbourg où tu peux encore voyager, non pas dans les RIO, mais en RRR poussé en BB67000 (Saales Strasbourg le matin 6h11 et le soir Strasborug Saales
a 20h04)
Are the "petit gris" based on this train too?
Must be robust to operate there. 👍🏻🇫🇷✌️🏴
What's so LOL about leaving late!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus de vidéos de trains roumains S.V.P.
Can you also in in romania in old dutch rollingstock make a review
Boa viagem ai simplys de trem show
🎉😊🎉😊
It’s got Wheel flats.
quand j allais a l ecole a menton depuis nice on prenait c est rame pour faire le trajet en 1982 j avais un collegue gitan il voulais jamais payer le train comme il etait tout maigre et petit on le cachait en haut dans le porte bagage et on mettaient nos sac devant ! le controleur du train en 2 ans ne c est jamais apercu de rien
Selling old trains is now impossible : EU regulations forbids the export of used equipment which contains hazardous material, like asbestos and the PCBs used to cool transformers.
On one hand, it means that companies looking for cheap equipment because they cannot afford modern one can’t find any, on the other hand, it prevents the export of hazardous materials to countries that cannot properly dispose of them. Some unscrupulous European companies would be too happy to get rid of old stuff that will cost a fortune to depollute and export environmental concerns to some third world country.😤
Selling to non-EU countries, I suppose. Because the Portuguese state company bought old Spanish carriages some years ago, retired abestos and other damaging materials, refurbished them and now they look brand new. New ones would cost much more.
@@Mpl3564 refurbishment is possible. It is possible to sell and buy contaminated rolling stock, as long as it is supposed to be decontaminated by certified companies, not selling it for reuse as is.
Hard coded subtitles are bad. Having subtitles on YT would allow more people from entire world to see it thanks to thanks to auto translation. My father is old and he don't know English, yet he loves trains. Please consider it.
Will do!
7:08 a 'clean and functional' toilet containts loo rolls, bruh.
I don't speak Romanian, but that lady is mad at someone 1:10
she said "come on!"
It's amazing how passengers block the aisles with luggage with complete disregard for other passengers passing through while conductors do nothing about the safety violation.
L’immatriculation de la locomotive, 45570 est identique sur la machine d’origine et sous son ré habillage roumain…
They deserve better not hand me down crap.
Put "Regio Călători" trough google translate tts in romanian pls, thanks
These trains are made to last forever. Too bad they are painted, a "natural" inox livery would be better. And it also seems that one of the command cabins is disabled.
There never was a second cab on the RIO and RIB 😉
I am just happy that the train is full of people. I don't know how long the so-called "developed" economies are going to sustain themselves by exporting their gold reserves - but they continue to be happy living without people around.
Yeah,Romania have the most old trains in Europe due to high corruption of the romanian governments which destroy romanian railways since 1989-present time.I'm a romanian citizen and i know what i'm speaking,i've been travel in Romania and Europe only with electric trains more than 600000km.
Bullshit. Do you have proof for anything you say? Have you travelled other countries?