@@rayjessica9404 because they openly supported MHJ in spite of HYBE and the new CEO. Plus HYBE's past obliteration of GFRIEND makes some fans fearful of the same fate
I fear if the girls keep aligning themselves with Min Hee Jin they will end up being hurt. Change at work can be unnerving but to reject it before you even know how things are going to go is unprofessional. When all this is done Hybe will still be a huge company, Min Hee Jin will still be a millionaire and NJ’s reputation/ fame will have taken a hit. These girls need to focus on themselves and stay out of this. MHJ is just using them
THIS!!! I love the girls but I feel like they’re being used and they don’t even know it. Don’t get me wrong, Hybe is terrible but Mhj isn’t innocent either!
I do worry about them even though i'm just a casual listener. At their age, they may be thinking they know better and thus do things to show who they support. I do hope they have a knowledgeable adult who can guide them in this industry.
not yall talking like uk more than the girls- dont get me wrong, ur making a good point.. if only what you know was everything there is to know.. I cant believe how many times i have to remind people that we dont know EVERYTHING... if they keep doing that, i think it has a very good reason and we should believe that until proven otherwise...
Disbandment is far from happening soon but i will be expecting they will be put aside or worst abandoned (like less effort and low quality concept for comebacks) or less tours, promotions and exposure 🥺 like what they did with formis_9😔
I’m so confused and so worried for NJ now, they’re such a great talent I won’t want to lose☹️ Hope their Company settles their dispute soonest & not causing NJ to suffer along🙏🏼
О чём вы говорите? Их компания задумала их уничтожить и они с самого дебюта были для Бан Ши Хёка нелюбимым ребёнком.. Единственный их шанс на спасение, это быть вместе с Мин Хи Джин.
These poor girls! I'm hoping and praying that things will work out for them and that all the stuff with HYBE and MHJ will be background noise. Hopefully, as time passes, this situation will be seen as a hurdle that they were able to overcome. If you love NewJeans, keep supporting the girls, and don't give up on them. They are so young and impressionable and need time to process all this. They are going through this in the public eye, and who knows what they are being told that we do not know.
I just hope they dont disband them. That's what happened with gfriend when Hybe took over. I assume they are going to gove new jeans music to illit and newjeans will get whatever is left over from lesserafim and illit.
Lol 😂... new jeans was literally playing "victim card" when it comes to hate... if something happened to NJ min hee jin will shift all the hate towards to illit & le sserafim 😂.... but idiots 😂 like you don't understand this & yes gfriend doesn't have that super extraordinary achievement 😂😂....
I thought mistreatment of girl groups were already a huge red flag from the start in Hybe. Remember how they didn't want to continue with Glam as trio or add new lineups? Or never bothered to make a new girl group? That should already said a lot.
Normally, I don't like to comment on such complex issues, but I feel all the people who are rightfully worried about NJ are taking it out too much on HYBE and too less on MHJ. Let's be serious, do you really think that HYBE is going to happily work with MHJ after the level of backstabbing she has clearly done? You all claim that BSH might go after NJ due to ego, like MHJ hasn't hold onto the fact that NJ, despite their immense success, is not first HYBE GG like LSM, to the point that she unnecessarily dragged them in her feud? Even if I dislike it, Illit's mention still made sense from the copying allegations perspective. She had been given insane freedom and creative control, the title of NJ's mother like she did not basically take the trainees from Source Music, the ones to actually invest in them. It is rumored so take this one with a pinch of salt - that Gfriend was not disbanded by Hybe for LSM, but because they needed funds for making a new label - Ador. The way MHJ has made herself bigger than NJ is insane and people aren't just seeing how manipulative she is being, constantly dragging her emotional relationship with girls to cover up her unprofessionalism, that she actually just sees them as tools (her texts which has not denied even now), and that she was actually trying to get them away from HYBE - the one who had invested in them in the first place. The creativity (and p*do stuff, which I'll not get into) is MHJ's, but the financial backing, which did give them the things - apartment, payment in their 2 month of debut, the sponsorships etc. are all HYBE's. The way Teddy is behind most of BlackPink's music, but we never see the girls as nothing without him, they are their own individuals, we can't see NJ. Sadly, MHJ has made herself such a big part of it all that we can't see the girls' talents beyond MHJ's vision. The director threw a tantrum by deleting all the videos when HYBE asked them to not upload more as they have the copyright - which is professional and logical, and of course why would they want to continue relationship with someone who supported MHJ who, reminder, backstabbed them? The worry about NJ's future and the girls themselves is understandable. But we should trust the girls' talents beyond MHJ instead of making her their core. That woman is problematic and should not have been let anywhere near minors - the song Cookie is a clear example. But HYBE, their parents, and MHJ were all making profits so no one spoke up. When discord regarding division of those profits came up, it all fell apart. I am not supporting HYBE or think they are better for NJ. But the way they are being portrayed as big bad villain from whom only MHJ can rescue NJ, when she is just as bad, if not worse is annoying me. Separating MHJ from the girls is for the best because if you look at it, all the scandals they have had have nothing to do with NJ but everything to do with her, and she uses them as her sympathy shield to get out of any criticism. The vision of the group will change no doubt, and I hope, for the better. But it is high time they need to become their own group with their own identity, not MHJ's extensions.
Finally some sense in this comment section! Also source was behind Newjeans debut, so their concept might not change entirely. I agree with everything you said and I also want to note that the girls need to be their own separate entity from her in order for them to grow. They can't just rely on her or that director they worked with. That directior is not the only talented director in the industry. That Ban Heesoo Channel isnt really needed to understand the message behind Ditto. I believe if they give themselves the chance to grow beyond her they will become bigger than they already are.
Agree, the girls are looking for unnecessary trouble right now, I hope they won't come to us crying that Hybe put them in a dungeon when they're humiliating Hybe's CEO by publicly defending MHJ on every occasion... Would be good for them to keep it low and inside for a moment. Beside love & sentiments, we're still talking business, respect of hierarchy, money, founding and : professionalism (I didn't see the last one on the MHJ/NJ side recently who keep pulling the drama/crying/sad cards everywhere)
I agree with you but understand NJ fans as well, as you said NJ brand is MHJ baby, pride and gem at the same time Hybe/BSH doesn't look that bonded with the brand+the girls, I really don't now if the new Ador head will care for the brand at least the same level MHJ use to do, Hybe is a huge corporate with a lot of brands/groups at their belt they can have one group not being that profitable, for exemple Fromis_9 being held at PLEDIS basement for taht long.
They are young and sheltered, they dont understand profits & lost.The video they released of all 5 is damaging for their career. I know they want resolutions but disrespecting the new Ceo by calling her without her title and saying she doesn't care about the.while they call Min Jin with title, giving Hybe and Ultimatum, telling them to stay in their lane and basically asking for their old CEO. You work for an international company, and you talk about the head negatively, who will want to work with you or support you. You have lost their trust and loyalty. I like these girls, and I have sympathy for them, but this was not a good look.
since tokkis are basically siding with mhj, i can see NJ girlies’ fear of losing their fandom who see mhj as the 6th member and key person in NJ success. it’s pretty sad
@@Super_Chamchia group that has a good and ACTUAL relationship with its ceo. You see groups from JYP with a really good bond with their ceo, even bigger than that of new jeans. Bang Pd, when bts first was created by him, was insanely close with the members. He was their producer and their manager. Min Hee Jin is the producer and creative director of the group, meaning she spent a lot of time training them in between stage performances and concerts. That's her job. So before bringing up this over repeated argument about having a good relationship with your CEO, remember all the groups who have also had good relationships with theirs. It's like now, having a good relationship with your CEO is taboo. It's evil, it's nasty, it's criminal. That's the mindset of 90% of international stans. You want them to have a bloodbath with each other, go engage in other companies and groups' business. You also forget, these girls know more than us. They are old enough to reason. They aren't fragile, they aren't brainwashed, you are, along with everyone else who is so blindly in love with Hybe and it's ceo, that they shun all reason and logic and instead, let their wild imaginations take over.
@@Super_Chamchithey are kids and can be brainwashed easily cause they don't know how the outside world works and its a very sensitive time for them cause they're all dependent on mhj and now they know nothing even about politics either they need to focus on themselves now
*Im afraid this is the beginning of the end for NJ…* *BSH isnt fond of the girls, top priority will be Le Sserafim and most esp ILLIT, and New Jeans will be the least priority… Lock the girls in basement. And the New Jeans story ends like Gfriend…*
Up to NJ and their fans…. BTS, (even under a bankrupt small label & facing all the sabotage, vile cyberbullying from big competitor companies/crazy fandoms/corrupt KMedia who banded together to attack BTS/BH/Army from the very start) were able to show their creativity, art, hard work, love for the fans. Army realized/saw all that and totally supported BTS. Army organized, strategized, opened outlets in different countries, banded together, researched, kept receipts, helped them win awards and made BTS/BH so profitable that they can survive and achieve all their dreams plus turned a bankrupt BigHit into a conglomerate like Hybe to help other artists/labels achieve the same thing. Remember in the presscon of PTD….RM said clearly that 50% of the success is credited to Army (hard work, intelligence, dedication and strategic moves) Can New Jeans/Bunnies do the same? It shld be easier since Army/BTS/Hybe gave them a head start by giving millions 💵, all the exposure & promotion to start. Obviously MHJ and her ilk won’t work for free. She got so much. Even Army supported NJ. Can Bunnies do what Army did? It shld be easier coz Armys already paved the way….they made it profitable for the global outlets to carry K-pop albums, they put KPop so much in the global map with their solid support of BTS, Bunnies don’t need to start from scratch. NJ will still continue to exist if profits keep coming. If NJ/Bunnies can’t get a handle on their emotions, be uninspired, bratty and unprofessional, full of excuses & keep blaming everyone except themselves, then they will not be profitable….they will end up just like gfriend….disband because they have no more money and the fans did not support them enough. They cnt blame the producers, etc….no excuse. BTS did so much effort…they wrote the lyrics, music, produced etc with much less resources. NJ/bunnies really have no excuse. All NJ/Bunnies need to do is follow the blueprint of BTS/BH/Army. Pledis (17) did the same….JYP (Straykids) bff of BSH also knows & followed the blueprint….write their own lyrics, etc. and Carats/Stays supported them. NJ and Bunnies shld hv an easy time. It will be so bad if they don’t achieve the same level of success.
Because these girls are ungrateful. No another groups have these privileges like NJ. If the girls stayed away from the drama and work everything would be fine. Who want to invest in a group who will after shade you and tell how shity you are.
Why cant the girls keep out of this feud ? Why must they address things so publicly dont they care about their career and their future if they love Min its not too late to go with her when she wins she should advice them to preserve their image and stay out of thus mess if she loves them as a mother. Hybe tried to do this for them with hiatus but fans were all over it sighs silence is whats best for the girls right now
i think we are forgetting the girls were dragged into the fued without a choice form both side you cant blame them for speaking and saying what they think is right
@@meghasingh-c1f if you were dragged into something ure focus would be how to get out of it no? Silence is key here they are choosing to speak and take a side there's no gun to their heads
@@splendore.ngrandeur3599 its called freedom. if they think its right to voice out their opinion then thats their decision. sometimes not speaking up can eat you alive inside. id choose mental health over career all day.
@@vinfinity0626 sometimes the effect of speaking can consume you entirely, Also we all know not everything we feel or think inside is right for us. WORDS CANT BE UNSAID OR UNHEARD ESP FOR THOSE UNDER PUBLIC SCRUTINY. ITS THE OBSESSION WITH MIN THAT WE ARE AGAINST. They can talk about not feeling confident or being anxious but being overly fixated with MIN is not it even non fans find it weird.
The most disturbing thing in this situation is the new jeans members keep on publicly voicing support for min heejin. Who is currently being investigated for covering up a sexual harassment that occurred under her..
These girls need to think loooonnnnggggg and hard on their next step. If they go the loyal to Min route they will effectively end their own careers. Trying to sue Hybe to let them out of their contracts will turn them into a fifty fifty clone. Even if they manage to get out of the contracts no one is going to want to sign/work with people who ignore their contractual obligations cause mah feelings! Yes the situation sucks but unless they stay professional, and distance themselves from it, its going to be R.I.P. New Jeans.
From an outsider perspective, MHJ planned a hostile takeover of Adore a HYBE subsidiary. In the business world, the parent company has every right to prevent the hostile takeover of their subsidiary company.
@@anubizz3 Exactly! Teenage bunnies are blinded by "emotion", crying, sadness, drama... Anything else doesn't speak to them (business, self-respect, professionalism)
What do you even mean with "hostile takeover of Adore"? She was already the CEO of Adore. If what you mean is to have Adore break away from HYBE and become an independent company. Well that's not even possible and they've already proven that in court. That's why HYBE lost that case and was not able to kick MHJ out. HYBE owns the majority of Shares in Adore, MHJ is just the CEO but her shares of the company is just minimal. Everything that's happening here is just because HYBE is bitter cause MHJ called them out for blatantly molding Illit out of NewJeans. Which was already very obvious anyway from the very start. And with BSH and HYBE's vast history of ruining their own girl groups, it's very obvious that their willing to go that far with NewJeans. I would be very happy if I'm wrong though cause I just want NewJeans to continue being successful for a very long time.
@@yelyl136 You are so naive. MHJ DID plan a hostile takeover of ADOR behind Hybe's back. She got caught and they launched an internal investigation on her. She then went public and created a whole false narrative about her being persecuted for being a whistleblower to distract from the truth. She has done nothing but damage everything and everyone around her because of her ego and greed. And unfortunately, NJ will likely be the ones to bear the brunt of the negative consequences.
I think NJ is losing focus on what's important: their careers. You may or may not like the new Ador's CEO or Hybe but this is a business and to think that the company that already invested in a product that has proven to be successful is going to boycott it's ridiculous. Just think!! MHJ not only has conflicts with Hybe but now he also has a complaint for harassment of an employee and not to mention his rather shady background. Do the bunnies really want someone like that influencing and managing the members so much? I think they should focus on their careers and maintain what they have achieved.
@@carinaluna1350 Well one thing is for sure. They know the situation better than us. And they probably know that supporting MHJ publicly is not a strategic move career-wise (at least for now, since MHJ cannot become CEO again for now). I personally don't buy any BS surrounding this incident, so you may disagree with me, but we need to wait until the court decision comes out in a few months, to see if she really was a witch.
@@MinSeokSong-f8d Isn’t the law suit hype vs mhj not including ador label and New jeans? Remember new jeans contract is still under hype, like you said we don’t know much unless New jeans is trying to break the contract or later try sue hype so they can get out of the contract.
I feel like NJ members are worried about their future, Hybe is like already done with NewJeans after the controversy that MHJ brought. and NJ & their parents supporting MHJ publicly just makes Hybe feel even more done with NJ. That's what I get. I mean both MHJ and HYBE are not completely right but publicly supporting MHJ just makes things worse. Its like NewJeans this big also because it is famous as Hybe artist too
Hybe was the one started it, I'm not sure how is this brought by MHJ. Are you even reading the right source? If this was MHJ fault, other directors, producer and even news articles wouldn't have side with Newjeans. Think instead of jumping on the wagon like a mindless cult.
@@eslnter Huh?? How did HYBE start this when the whole reason they went to court in the first place was because they found out MHJ was trying to take over ADOR secretly? Like you should take your own advice and "think instead of jumping on the wagon like a mindless cult"
They kind of did, but it's not their fault? They supported MHJ because of the pressure from their parents, when they should have stayed silent and watched the scene unfold, but instead supported her since day 1 with little to zero proof that either of the sides is good to back up. I mean most of the group are young adults and one can argue they could think for themselves but MHJ quite literally brainwashed them to think NWJS is nothing without them.
From this whole incident i got to know how toxic bunnies are and for them their music is more important than the girls seriously man mhj past is wild and moreover according to her past she should stay away from minors
Some bunnies were disappointing indeed, justice for BTS Suga, ILLIT & LE SSERAFIM dragged unnecessarily in this mess by toxic fans. Remember that karm is a B and that you create an army of antis by yourselves and your actions (don't worry no need to justify, I know how exceptions work and that not all the bunnies were attacking the other Hybe groups, but I hope you can give some peace to other groups now and focus on the NJ girls who need your support more than ever. Hybe was never the problem, deal with it)
@eminence-c8lgirl what hybe has always problems?they never had any scandals until last 2 years they are the least problematic company and now people are saying they will be mistreated isn't it their fault they are keep on supporting mhj even when her chats were exposed she neither denied that chats it is also proven that mhj went to shareholders to seperate ador from hybe when it is not even her's coming to bunnies they don't even care about girls all they want is their music they keep on sending trucks to hybe and their parents they are the most dumbest ones they complain about hybe mistreatment but they don't want their daughters to leave the hybe as they are all complaining like no trainees have gone through I am not saying hybe is good company but they are far better than mhj her past is wild
@eminence-c8l what other companies are not insecure? Girl are you new to k-pop or what whole industry is insecure with BTS Don't you remember when sm formed superm and yg send a reporter to ask BTS about their plagiarism issues and I don't know what problems you are talking about and yes hybe is greedy and do you think all other companies are there to give comfort life and be like a family with their idols every company is greedy minded and you are talking as new jeans concept is new they themselves copied from others all this drama started when she caught leaking their own company artists personal information and to cover that she just dragged illit in to the mess and how dumb to think hybe hates asepa just because he said can you beat them may be he is but don't you know how sm has done same as hybe when they debuted superm to beat BTS be positive and think he took asepa as biggest competitor to beat each and every company,CEO everyone are greedy never take any company side and all these things I said I am not defending anyone but all these are facts
@eminence-c8l yes they are bad infact I hate hybe( company a lot) but they are not the one who ruined NJ it is mhj she constantly dragged NJ in to the mess no CEO does that every single time she will mention them if she really cares about them she would have never drag NJ
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes?
To be honest , those who support the company......I don't know why but their minds are not set straight. Like , look at the way how the company treating MHJ and the girls. It's like Stepmother and her two shit daughters treating Cinderella in the most debaucherous ways.
@@lolwhat6161 to be honest I don’t support either mhj or hybe both terrible people in my opinion but to align yourself so much and so publicly with mhj… where it’s come out how she was towards minors in sm and yes those messages might’ve been debunked but turns out it was true about her wanting to steal nj. In my opinion those girls and their parents should’ve never made any type of public statement. Like are they being brainwashed??? What is it???
YES EXACTLY.. there was just thos comment above you i had to reply under for the same thing.. gosh... i cant believe people actually think they know more than the girls 😐
K-pop entertainment industry is a harsh reality for children to be exposed into. We have seen many idols and celebrities be used and abused in this industry. Children being told to lose weight when they’re already skinny as it is. Children being told you’re not pretty enough. do you guys not remember Goo hara or sully? They were literally bullied so bad by the general public and by other celebrities that they ended up committing suicide! These are children who need time to develop into adults, not manipulated by a woman who 1. called these girls fat 2. covered up for her vice president sexually harassing another employee shall I go on??
@@vjstigallik ,, I also disappointed after knowing reality of companies but my passion is dancing singing and I also wannabe kpop , and also I thought to give audition in hybe but I changed my mind,,, I'll give in yg or gbk bcoz I think they are better ,,,,,but actually I truly wannabe kpop ❤
But teenagers being idol is not a new thing.Its just the way it is.Most of the popular(now)kpop band members debuted as a teenager. You can say NJ became popular while being teenager,but its for a reason!And the reason is they are talented.I mean performing live so smoothly at 15/16 is not a joke right?
I was looking for this comment. It is upsetting that again and again this adolescents and young adults are caught up in such shitty situations, often caused or poorly handled by the companies
The full NewJeans' Live Translation Hyein : Some of you might be surprised by this sudden meeting, but we wanted to share our thoughts and opinions about the recent events, so we prepared this session. First, I want to explain one of the reasons we decided to do this live. It's been hard to see many people who have worked with us continue to suffer from unfair demands and pressure even after our CEO was dismissed. It was frustrating to just stand by and watch these situations unfold, and we were very worried about our future as a group of five. Honestly, while preparing for this live, we were naturally concerned about the reactions we might receive afterward. We were also worried that people might mistakenly think that our CEO instructed us to do this, but I want to clarify that this live was prepared because we five members genuinely wanted to express our thoughts. We received help from directors we trust for things we couldn't prepare ourselves, like setting up the shoot and finding a location. It didn’t feel right for us to stay silent when everyone, including our Bunnies, has been stepping up to support us. Moreover, this is not just a matter of leaving it to the adults because it directly affects the lives of us five members. Since we're the ones going through this, we felt that it would be healthier to speak up ourselves than to do nothing, so we mustered the courage to do so. The main point of what we want to say today is directed towards HYBE. We've already had meetings with the current management to express our opinions, but after seeing what happened afterward, it feels like our concerns weren't clearly conveyed. It seemed like communication was blocked, so we felt that preparing this live was the only way to properly share our thoughts and feelings. Minji : I’m sure that today’s announcement has shocked many of the staff as well, as they were not aware of it, and I imagine everyone watching is quite surprised too. We’ve thought a lot about where to begin, but since the purpose is to express our intentions, we’ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Of course, due to contractual issues, we can’t share everything, but we’ll be as honest as we can. After it was decided that we would debut as NewJeans, our members spent a lot of time getting to know Min Heejin Daepyonim, both as a group and individually. At first, I had reservations and a certain fear towards the adults we were working with, but Daepyonim was the first person to approach us in a way that allowed us to open up, which was initially awkward but eventually built trust. From before our debut until now, we’ve been aware of various issues related to our debut schedule and other matters. However, working with Daepyonim made us feel good, and I believe that’s why we were able to debut successfully and continue our activities until now. This has been today’s news story. Danielle : Naturally, we all want to continue working with Daepyonim. Even before debuting as NewJeans and through all of the time that we spent together with Min Heejin Daepyonim, all of us felt that the music we wanted to make and the kind of world we wanted to build together, our vision, was similar in so many ways. With Min Heejin Daepyonim, we were able to prepare each and every task with sincere hearts, and I believe it shows in our work. Putting our sincere effort into something is only possible because of the people that we're working with have trust in each other and have that same vision. Min Heejin Daepyonim is not only the person that produces our music, but someone who makes NewJeans who we are. She discusses even the smallest details with us and explains them in ways that we can understand clearly. NewJeans has a distinct colour and tone, and this was created with Min Heejin Daepyonim. She is integral to NewJeans’ identity, and we all feel that she is irreplaceable. Haerin : However, even after our debut, there have been many unfair and incomprehensible incidents that you might not know about, and these incidents have only increased over time. As some of you may know, recently, videos from our trainee days and private records, such as medical information, were leaked. When I first saw that, I was really shocked. It was hard to understand how our company, which is supposed to protect us, failed to manage and allowed such information to be leaked. Naturally, this situation has made us worry that other strange or false information about us might spread in the future. Although we, along with our parents and Min Heejin Daepyonim, have raised concerns about this to HYBE, they haven’t resolved the issue, nor have they taken any proactive measures. Then, in the midst of all this, our CEO was dismissed, and we’re left wondering whom we can trust and rely on. We’ve come to the conclusion that if we don’t speak out about this now, no one will know what we’re going through. After much discussion among ourselves, we finally decided to take this step. Hanni : Something happened to me recently. The 4th floor of the HYBE building is where we get our hair and makeup done, so a lot of other artists and staff come and go there. One day, I was waiting alone in the hallway, and some staff from another team passed by. We greeted each other, but when they came back out a bit later, I heard one of their managers say, “Ignore her,” right in front of me. I could hear and see everything clearly. Even now, I still don’t understand why I had to go through that. Minji : When I heard about what Hanni experienced, I was really shocked. How could a manager from another team tell their members to ignore one of us, and say it so loudly that Hanni could hear it? Such unimaginable words and behavior were directed at us, yet there was no apology, nor did they even acknowledge their wrongdoing. Of course, I’m worried about our future, but what’s most frightening is that the work we’ve already created is being compromised. Seeing the people who have poured their lives into creating our work being treated this way makes it hard to understand how this could be happening. The new management said they would separate producing and management, but we’ve always worked differently from other labels, and we thought that our way was a good one. Now, Daepyonim can no longer approve all matters, and we’re left wondering how we’re supposed to continue working as we did before. The recent statement from the new management also didn’t make sense to me. If they really didn’t intend to interfere with our producing, then the recent incident with Director Shin Woo-seok should never have happened, and it should have been handled differently. We are the ones directly involved with the copyrights and likeness rights of our content, yet they’re making decisions without our consent. In their statement, they kept saying they were acting to protect us and prevent our anxiety, but why do they keep insisting on this when they haven’t considered our wishes? We don’t want any more unnecessary issues to arise, and we want them to show respect and consideration for Daepyonim and all the directors who have worked with us. The things they’re doing right now are not in our best interest at all. Hanni : Something we all find very important, something that plays a very important role in our team's colour and image is our media content and creative production. Despite saying that they would leave all the creative production to our now former CEO, Min Heejin, through official statements that I think a lot of you might have already read or seen, and also during our personal meetings, they infringed our content. Content that not only we worked really hard on, but also our staff who spent endless hours to produce and release them solely for our fans. And if they had any understanding about what type of team we are, and the type of content that we create, they would have thought more deeply for crossing the line that they set for themselves. Because of this incident, we realized that there's not much we can do to prevent these type of issues. Personally, the way that ADOR used to run was the business management and creative production was not separated and was factors that played and worked in harmony with each other. That's how it worked and it was perfectly fine. It was our way of working and it was our CEO's way of producing NewJeans' content, which a lot of you were able to enjoy and appreciate. But now that she's no longer CEO, these factors that should have continued to work together in harmony are now being seen as two different areas of work
Minji : Besides this, there are many other incidents we’ve experienced that are beyond my understanding-things that are frightening and uncomfortable. These incidents naturally make us question whether HYBE really cares about NewJeans, and there are clear signs of this. However, it’s hard to discuss everything today because we’re not sure how far things could escalate. We just hope you can understand a little of what’s been on our minds and why we chose to speak out in this way. Danielle: As I mentioned earlier, our dream was to perform the music we want to make with Daepyonim, and we were working very hard toward that goal. But now, we can’t do that, and the plans we’ve made might not come to fruition. As Hanni unnie said earlier, just like that, the content that we released solely for our fans, for our bunnies, was instantly erased. And I truly can't understand why anyone would do this to a group, or just anyone in general. We were just working hard for the present, so what did we do wrong? A week after Daepyonim was dismissed, we found out that we could no longer work with the director we’ve been working with all this time, and we’re extremely anxious because we don’t know what will happen to the staff who have always worked hard for us. If they really care about us, they should stop saying that they prioritize the artists and instead let us do the music we love in an environment where we can be genuinely happy. Is that really so hard to do? It’s hard to fully express what’s in my heart, but in the end, the five of us just want to continue our activities with Min Heejin Daepyonim, as we have done so far. Haerin : Personally, I want to continue working with the people around us who have helped me grow mentally and made me feel alive. However, I can't understand, nor do I think I should have to understand, why external forces are constantly obstructing and hindering us. I absolutely cannot comprehend what is truly in our best interest or what is supposed to help us grow. And I feel so sorry and heartbroken that our Bunnies, who found comfort in us and shared joyful memories with us, have to go through this ordeal and worry about things they shouldn't have to. We almost lost the work that symbolizes the relationship between NewJeans and Bunnies, and we don't want to lose anything else. I refuse to conform to or follow the values of the society those people belong to, and because I believe that direction is not the right one, I will not choose to go that way. Hyein : We found out about the CEO's dismissal through the news on the very day it happened. It was so sudden and unimaginable for all of us, and honestly, it was really difficult for us to process. As artists under HYBE, the company's unilateral notification made it clear to us that they don't respect us at all. In the midst of this confusion, we heard through our manager that the new CEO wanted to meet with us. From the very first action taken by the newly appointed Juyoung, it was clear that there was no consideration for us. He claimed to care for us, to prioritize NewJeans, but looking at everything that has happened, it's evident that his words were just that-empty words. HYBE’s actions, like publishing articles that painted us in a bad light just a week before our comeback, make us question how any of this is supposed to be in our best interest. Minji : It's already been half a year of unnecessary and exhausting discussions about us and NewJeans, and even as a third party, it must be tiring. As the ones directly involved, it’s incredibly uncomfortable for us. We still have music we want to make and goals we want to achieve together, but as things stand now, it’s heartbreaking to think that we might lose not only the work we’ve created so far but also the identity of our team. That’s what makes us feel so helpless. We held this live stream to express our feelings because we sincerely want this tiresome conflict to end. Hanni : Like how we have our own and individual thoughts and feelings, we have the choice to choose how we will react to each situation, and we are not going to follow Hybe's every order blindly. We are more than well aware that this is getting in the way of our work, and that we should be treated much, much better than how we are right now. And it's very hard to believe that they are truly sincere about wanting to help us continue, to be able to continue to work with our Daepyonim, Min Heejin Daepyonim. Despite her being in the midst of all this current legal conflict, she's expected to plan and creatively produce our future endeavours in just only two months, which I personally think makes no sense at all. We don't want to hear all the empty words of how they're going to help us continue to work with Min Heejin, Daepyonim. And all we want is this legal conflict to be resolved and have our working environment returned back to normal the way it was before. Hyein : The way HYBE is operating right now feels dishonest and wrong to us. Please, stop interfering. Reinstating our CEO and returning us to the original ADOR environment we had before, with familiar people, not strangers, would make things right. We’re not asking for special treatment; we just want everyone to do their jobs well in their respective places. We’ll do our best in our roles too. We sincerely hope our request is heard. Danielle : From a human perspective, I hope you stop harassing our CEO, Min Hee Jin. Honestly, she seems so pitiful, and HYBE just comes across as an inhumane company. What can we possibly learn from a company like this? So, I really hope you stop bothering our CEO. Minji : What we want is the original ADOR, where CEO Min Hee Jin leads both management and production. The reason we're making this request is because it's a way to coexist peacefully without conflict with HYBE. If our message has been conveyed properly, we hope Chairman Bang and HYBE make a wise decision to restore ADOR to its original state by the 25th. Thank you for listening to us.
@@ProtectNewJeans1 they're asking for things based on their emotions without thinking of the consequences of their public statements. Their words make sense in their perspective but they're talking to a business entity. Strip HYBE of whatever halo they have as BTS's mother company, it's a profit-oriented company. Do they really think that HYBE's goal is to make their dreams come true? No. It's to make money for their inventors like all enterprises m They're not gonna hand over the reins to another person who proven herself to be against their business interest so that NJ can do their music. They'l ask for the return of the money used in building NJ and more in the form of damages. Ironically, this is the kindest thing they would probably do. The worst one would be to keep them in their basement until their contract expires. Most likely, they'll make an example out of NJ so that other groups won't do the same thing. I'm old and I've been working for so long and when it comes to office dramas like this, it's better to keep your mouth shut and speak only in black and white in a paper vetted by your lawyer. Less words, less mistakes. Like cops say, "anything you say will and can be used against you in a court of law." I get it that they're scared of their future but with this statement, they just tied themselves to MHJ. Now, HYBE would be compelled to reassess if NJ is still a company asset or a liability and act accordingly. With their hostile stance against HYBE, the latter's response will not be in their favor. They just gave HYBE a justification for reducing their activities as they don't want to work without MHJ. More, HYBE won't be so stupid as to invest money for a NJ comeback knowing fully well that NJ no longer wants to work with HYBE (which to the members' minds is an inhumane company) and would go to MHJ one way or another. I predict that NJ's next step would be to terminate their contract with ADOR. That's what the 15-day ultimatum was for. As a business entity, HYBE will not let them off scot-free financial wise.
Silenced and sidelined. NewJeans was their BEST girl group since GFRIEND and well, history repeats itself. Much prayers of encouragement to the young ladies as they endlessly wait till something happens.
Silenced? More like too much freedom of speech. Not a day goes by without them crying and making a fuss. "oh ceo MHJ we LOVE you" "oh CEO MHj it's only cuz of you we got this award" "oh I'm devastated that hybe dismissed CEO MHJ" "oh we miss CEO MHJ" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ironically, HYBE disbanded GFRIEND and took the resources from Source to create ADOR and NewJeans. It's HYBE's own karma, and unfortunately the girls are the victims of the fallout.
They're more tbh. I would say they are the most successful since Blackpink or domestically in Korea even since Girls' Generation. Would hate to see them fail because of this HYBE situation.
Think of it as a messy divorce. Mom coddled the kids and Dad only saw them as money makers. But since the kids sided with Mom, Dad took Mom’s power and wants to take control of the kids. Dad is punishing the kids. Mom is making the kids dependent on her. Either way, the victims in this are the kids who got taken advantage of. Better to find a new Mom and Dad than to chase after parents that use them to get back at the other.
That is what i thinking no site is better than the other. I don't know why fans allways try to show their site is innocent, when both sites clearly aren't.
But every kpop company wants money. this is just a business. kpop groups are just products. Most of the kpop groups don't have freedom for artistic purposes like western artists. their songs, music choreo and even the way to talk is programmed and given to them. like in YG, BP mentioned that everything was given to them they just had to sing the lyrics. But HYBE allows artist to contribute in production, composition and everything. But at the end of the day, they are a business too. they won't let a group they have invested a lot go like this. MHJ stole the girls from SOURCE too. But now MHJ will have to go even if she like it or not. Hope NJ will get a better producer and continue to make good music
@@Usery5439 I think you should hear both sites and you will see MHJ isn't as bad as you think of her and Hybe isn't as good as you think of them. MHJ can't steal the girls. That isn't possible with someone agreeing to give her the girls. I don't say MHJ is innocent, but she is the one making NJ good music as she does in SM.
@@BobJackJillZorroKoshekZuko think of it as dad blindly supporting his kids believing he has a partner in mom who is working with him for the success of the kids only to find mom has colluded with the kids for their own benefit in the hopes of cutting dad out completely and taking the kids and money for herself.
Most bunnies aren't old enough to decide what they are going to be eating for supper tonight, and it's not like NJ has been around long enough for them to have any real die hard fans, they've been on the scene barely 2 years now. They really don't have much skin in this game, and I highly doubt Min Hee Jin will back them with her own money. HYBE will be fine, this is merely a scratch to them, hardly a death blow. Oh, and you did know that Ador is a HYBE construct? The talent, the people, the money that New Jeans has been grazing on is 100% HYBE, not the loser MHJ, but HYBE.
If the girls could please stop enabling that woman it would be great for all parties. She's currently being accused of covering up sexual harassment and bullying, people are literally cyberbullying the victim for daring to sue their beloved CEO. The girls need to understand that they're indirectly hurting the victims with their unerring support.
With all of these drama I remembered my aunts word that if someone is being nice to you that doesn’t mean that he or she is a good person i hope the girls will understand this and focus on their career rather than being involved in adults business because all are selfish
Hybe should let them go to see how they are doing. We will see if MHJ really can handle it all together. I think NewJeans quick success made MHJ and the girls think that they would do just fine. That got the best of them thinking their success and hard work will be enough. I don't minimize the girls and MHJ hard work but I think HYBE management and network played a big role in it. It's the balance of it all who make their success so big. I think HYBE should let them go and make things on their own to see if it works. I don't think the girls taking side so pubicly on this is a good move for them. MHJ and HYBE will be fine on their own but I don't think the girls career will make it. We all knew that the industry rules aren't black or white so they shouldn't let their emotion lead their future like that. This fight is mostly between MHJ ego and HYBE ego. The girls won't won that fight they don't have enough knowledge , maturity or experience to take side on this one. HYBE will debut a new group or transfer the investment to another existing group and MHJ already have a career on her own but the girl will loose their dream and don't have enough network to make it on their own without HYBE or MHJ network so I hope the girls won't put their ego first and destroyed their own career.
what i dont understand is why they are so concerened about mhj this badly. they are teenagers. no young person needs to be there for an adult during hard times. mhj has brainwashed these poor girls.
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes? but if mhj is grooming them then bsh is exploiting lsfm
@@meghasingh-c1f so you'd rather support a groomer? all kpop groups have been exploited once in their lifetime, its the nature of these fuckass companies. we tell them all the time to treat the artists well but theyre money hungry. yet you rarely see a group that leeches off their CEO like newjeans does, especially this early on in their career. sure! they could just be respecting mhj as an elder in SK blahblah but what other group that has went crying to their ceo in support of HER own hard adult decisions. its ridiculous to me. again sure, maybe we dont know things behind the scenes but still. knowing mhj's past with minors and her time in SM it leaves a horrible feeling in my stomach every time i hear about newjeans. if mhj knew hybe would want to ruin the girls, she should have not have a baby fit about it. she should have quietly planned something out to get the girls out once their contract was finished or something. we should not be protecting predators/exploiters. we should be on the side of the poor kids that got mouth fed bullshit. "but newjeans are on mhjs side so?" but we are people with critical thinking skills that can clearly see that the girls comfort mhj too much considering their age gap and so on.
I rather the girls end their contract and go to another company that will put that coin into them knowing they would bring coins in . I can seebthem at jyp for music production or even sm due to their vocals and sm has good singers
@@JEFF.4LVES yea cause they left them to go to others the two girls from le sserafim went to hybe, hyuna left jyp for cube and she left cube and then she left cube and went somewhere else
Tbh, what Min did was SO inmature, and make the career of the girl worse, they were doing so well, and she was in charge but let her ambitions take over her
If MHJ really cared about the girls,she would have taken what ADOR had offered her. But all she is worried about is money,if she cared she would get back to work and get the girls back to work on their tours in 2025. Because the girls wanted MHJ to go back to work with them,ADOR offered that,MHJ is the one to turn it down. There is no way HYBE will let MHJ become CEO again.By the way folks are blaming HYBE for firing MHJ, WRONG; it was ADOR who fired her. That woman has done severe damage to the girls,and it shows, they are going to need professional help after all this.In fact who is responsible for them now,isn't it MHJ? Why isn't she doing her job instead of giving interviews and photo shoots?
@@mahabubajannathashi1199Girl are you new to k-pop or what sm is literally the worst company ever their own artists sued them they got sued by ever generation
MHJ rly fkd up the lives of the poor girls. at this point njs disbanding isn't so bad anymore. there's just so much issues going around and knowing the girls and company have hostile history i just find it more harmful for the girls to keep on staying. the girls should just continue living life peacefully, finish school then get a job or if they still want to continue with entertainment then they should transfer to another company
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them🤷🏽♀️ and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes?
Thank you! I don’t understand why netizens are siding with a company who treats the girls so badly. Why wouldn’t NJ align themselves with someone who took them out of a bad situation, listens to their suggestions, and treats them fairly? Just because they are under contract with Hybe means they can’t speak out and should take all the mistreatment? make it make sense
@@Home-ok7vr it like everyone has decided for them which side they are supposed to side with and since it not the one they wanted they need to "think long and hard ", "stay quite ", "be professional"
@@thiaokeke oh god!!! You’re all so dumb!!! The artists belong to their label but HYBE and those girls are lucky to have what they do because HYBE did provide the princesses treatment they got, that did not earn it like all the others
@@Home-ok7vr It's only deluded international netizens who just think HYBE = BTS, so HYBE can't be an awful company. If they bothered to really listen to RM's new album, they'd know that's not true. Because clearly everything the company done isn't enough evidence for them. They really forget the awful conditions BTS, TXT, and GLAM suffered through. Rather, they weren't even fans at the time. They were in diapers. 🤣HYBE has NEVER been a good company, even when it was just Big Hit and not a conglomerate.
It was reported that new jeans earned before they reach 1 year. If they have been frugal, they could buy back their contract and resign if they think hybe mistreated them. They could also not signed the contract in the first place if the issue arise before their debut. My issue is other groups are dragged in this issue between hybe and mhj. some groups are starting from nothing and now being dragged by this fued.
Fans feel bad about them not getting the attention they want but what they don't realize that NJs only want the *good part* of being the kpop idol. If you're in that kind of industry and issues like that break you, you'll never succeed. It's really hard to feel bad for them if they have better living conditions than most of the fans and yet fans still give them money. Spend your money on more productive purpose.
you cannot tell me mhj didn't groom them, I mean she literally was investigated for SA and it was confirmed that she was talking bad about the girls but they still support her
I just hope that NJ will stop speaking about the issue until their contracts expire. This is all MHJ’s doing by going to the press and name dropping other groups. If she just waited for the contract to expire and separated from Hybe in a legal way this wouldn’t happen.
To be clear, MHJ started this fight, now she's crying foul because she didn't anticipate this outcome. Please stop giving MHJ grace because she deserves none. MHJ is a flawed individual and she does not care about NJ. I'm confused why NJ and their parents still trust her after the terrible things she said about them as individuals and their work ethic. Also MHJ did not assemble NJ. They were already picked and working under a different label at Hybe. It was Hybe's reputation & money that got NJ 3mil and brand deals as a new group. It was Hybe that bent over backwards and gave MHJ everything she asked for (unclear why). But both NJ & MHJ had deals no other label had. It was a bad idea for MHJ to have so much control over Ador in the first place. Hybe is not the devil and appear to be running the company pretty well. No one's perfect, but no one had issues w/Hybe until MHJ came along. Also, I'd like to see what evidence MHJ has to fight her current situation in court, because I'm sure Hybe has their receipts. Stop treating NJ like they're little clueless puppies. They're not to innocent to speak ill of HYBE & take MHJ side. They have family and attorneys that should be looking out for them. MHJ sue isn't. Thanks!
@@MinSeokSong-f8d MHJ is the one who made it public and dragged the girls into it. Hybe contacted her privately to speak with her about what shes been doing behind their backs as far as money, because they are the ones who fund all the sub lables.
@@MinSeokSong-f8d Not sure where you're coming from but this is MHJ mess. She put her crap on front street so she could get the sympathetic vote, but she's just pathetic. Receipts: She put all her schemes in emails, she talked bad about NJ in her emails, she talked about Hybe in her emails, she discussed things with her shaman in her emails, then she told untruths about her emails or tried to pass it off as just joking. She even had bad things to say about her EE who was being sexually harassed. Look I'm all for girl power except when they're messy entitled females. No need going back/forth because clearly you're team MHJ. But really...
Between this, LE SSERAFIM, and the horrible portrayal of Manon Lara and Sophia I’m guessing if HYBE doesn’t do something right soon they will start to decline in popularity for self sabotage. Like they really don’t know how to handle situations at all. And as of late it’s more negative things being said than positive. Which is unfortunate for the idols under their labels. Because they are all so talented working under an idiot.
Actually people overseas can see right through mhj manipulation and lies and can’t believe how gullible some Koreans are to believe her. Those supporting mhj are seen as fools that are easily manipulated. The fact alone how she chose to involve nj in this fight shows her incompetence to be a real leader.
And why something bad has to happen to Hybe? It is a conglomerate with business in mind, Miss Min started the dirty fight, by asking and demanding all resources for NJ, and breaching the trust by looking outside to achieve what she wanted. Hybe just closed the tap and she went public with the drama act...no sympathy for her. And really i pity the girls, but won't miss them in case things won't work out for them. Le Sseraphim had a great comeback and other girl group are emerging. Source music just opened a new audition. I wish Hybe all the best. @_arlinda
MHJ is being accused of serious crimes, including allowing sexual harassment in the workplace. She acts with malice and has no remorse. NJ need to distance themselves from her otherwise they may be dragged down with her. I don't listen to their music, but thanks to BTS I have a list of Kpop groups I want to listen to and they are on it - I just haven't gotten round to them. I feel terrible about not giving them a shot, but I am not sure I want to listen to their music anymore and have taken them off the list. Unfortunately, it is the same with NCT after this drama with their fans targeting Yoongi who is one of my favourites as his music really inspires me. I feel bad for them if they are disbanded due to their association with MHJ, but I cannot support anyone who turns a blind eye and allows questionable acts to happen, then defend the person perpetrating it. I'd rather stan BTS with their positive messages and encouragement!
These are literal repercussions for her trying to stage a coup. She was bad-mouthing other groups under the same corp umbrella for months - leaking their idols info. It is CRAZY to me that any of you think this is unfair. If it was in the States, girlie would be sitting in a white collar jail for years to come. Yes, there are idols involved, but this is business. And she was NOT thinking about her beloved NJ's career when she did all this underhanded stuff. She was thinking about her own, and how greedy she is. She groomed those girls to feel like she's one of them and is perfectly content to let them ruin their chances of moving on from this by constantly bringing her up. She's gotten off easy.
If you do not understand the overall stories, don't be stupid to leave such comment. Hybe started all this, they have been neglecting Newjeans since before debut. There is no grooming here. If it was grooming, other producers, directors, even news articles such as Ilgan sports wouldn't have released statement that was against Hybe. BSH tried to snatch Apple deals away from Newjeans for LSF and Apple rejected it. He also tried to steal Louis Vuiton from Newjeans. Also, the one that is leaking private and medical information of idols right now is Hybe. If you even have a brain to think about it, it's as clear as day that Hybe has the highest probability of doing so, compared to MHJ herself. Stop being full of yourself thinking you have any idea what's going on exactly.
@@nycjt6267 Where should i start. I am a 2nd gene KPOP fan. And Hybe on top of doing what other labels do what i don't like, Gfriend was one of the first things that let me struggel. Yes they do good things and i don't want to deny that. But since they are Hybe the negative goes over the positive for me. As Hybe only see the money and that performence is importent, they overlook the groundwork. And that hurt their idols.
Oh now they are speaking out cause they love their ceo soo much. Where were they when she was talking shit about illit and other grp. Seriously ppl who support witch like min hee jin are at fault themselves idc if they are minor or not.
Go watch th fking press conference. If you don't speak Korean find an actually good translation of the WHOLE THING not just things taken out of context. She never talked shit about other groups or their members, only mentioning them in the context of how HYBE capitalized on NJ to promote them.
@@ike7484 And she didn't?? Fucker they are on the same label the main purpose is to promote one grp ofc hybe will benefit from it every label does but claiming that it's worng of them to do that when she herself pushed the 'bts sister' propaganda is Hippocratic on it's own.
Mybe learn korean n go watch the clips again coz she never insulted them she just brought them up n how hybe copied her ideas to make them.... did she ever said that the girl's were talentless?
MHJ has them convinced they can't succeed on their own merit. How sad is that. A good "parent" would encourage them to fly and love them from afar. It has always been about MHJ's ego and what SHE wants. She spent ten months setting up her label and consulting the shaman for it, instead of coming up with a marketing strategy for the girls. A strategy that she insisted on and was the whole reason she was allowed to go do her own thing. She delayed NJs debut and then blamed everyone else with it. When in reality she was playing woo-woo with her shaman so she could "gobble up" HYBE. The *shaman* reminded her to take the girls, too. Because that would lead to bigger profits. She isolated the girls on purpose and started her insidious strategy from day one. She's like the fake mom in Rapunzel -- she loved the power, not the girl.
Sad that happened to hanni, but after what mhj did in the press conf to other idols, especially such comments about chaewon, sakura and leaking private info about other artists...what did they expect by supporting mhj. This live on top of it just made me unfollow them...i mean the way they demand things even though mhj is problematic, they better pray to god BTS is nowhere effected by this leaks, otherwise forget disbandment... ARMYs are coming for them.
I feel the same way about them demanding things. I mean, if they had requested that Mhj be brought back that woulf be fine, but them demanding it and a deadline? I find that just disrespectful. I guess well know Hybe's answer tomorrow.
For those who are Worrying, Its better if New jeans disband or End contract With Hybe / ador and Go together To anathor company, Alreday we known Jype and Yge and sm enetertainment Allow Them To Enter into Their comapny Cuz We know the hype of new jeans but If They Leav hybe They have to change The name 😢that is The only Loss For us , i Hope They would Move to other company Or the issues Will Be solven By someone, Lets hop For New jeans good 😢
do u think companies would want a group that went against their label? especially if mhj tags along with nj to this new company? yall need to be fr and understand that a big part of nj success was because they were part of hybe. they were popular before they even debuted. all those resources were given to them by hybe. idk what mhj agenda is but the girls need to look at whats best for them. the penalty for cancelling contracts isnt less
If there is ever another come back from New Jeans it will not be for a very long time. Now that they have sided openly with MHJ and have given Hybe an ultimatum, the members may be sued if they carry out their threat.
Not taking anyones side but nwjns are too much dependent on their ex ceo Afraid of the change they behave like this and give company ultimatums is definitely a bad move. I hope they continue to make good music and dont believe that one person can make or break them
For those who say that hybe is bad with girls bands, I remind you that you were pressuring hybe to release a girls band when in the past there was a girl band that almost bankrupted hybe and that's why hybe didn't want to make more girl bands for the same reason
It’s funny, fiftyfifty who’s arguably at the bottom starting over has gone thru crazy drama and new jeans who is arguably at the top also goes thru some crazy drama . Shows you that this industry is just crazy no matter who you are. All I want is to listen to good music , no matter who makes it but this industry is so toxic both from insiders and gross netizens . It’s really disheartening and it’s so big that unfortunately the bubble will eventually pop.
The most problematic thing is girls supporting minheejin even when she is CONFIRMED of doing shaman things on BTS .When she was badmouthing other girl groups same age as new jeans without worrying about their mental health,because of all this drama lessarafim faced somuch hate .What about that ?.Those who support these girl even after knowing that they support min heejin Im dumbfounded.if someone would have done those shaman activities on your favourite girl group.HOw have it felt?.I loved new jeans their collab with BTS but now I hope they dont even stand close to BTS or lessarafim,illit those girls basically supported a bully to protect themselves from another bully.I have no grudge against these girls but I will never support them or their music again.
to be honest, their reputation took a big hit with this. this thing will always hang above the members heads now… they‘ll go hand in hand with this company mess and it’s sad to see. they also don’t help themselves and their situation by inserting themselves this intensely
I am an Army, and I won't hide it. I truly support the new directors of Ador. If the new directors are to protect NJs IP and their work, what's wrong with that?. Instead of hating on Hybe and Ador, let's look to the positive side that Ador wants to protect and direct NJs if they want to grow as artists. Them using emotions and hatred towards Hybe, and the NM won't be good for their future. I know everyone wants NJ to grow, so let NJs and the fans support the artists themselves instead of being divided. We know all these articles we see are displayed just to receive public sympathy and public opinion for spreading hatred to the NM of Ador and Hybe. Fans of NJs you need to think of the artists themselves instead of putting all the support on MHJ.
People start hating the girlls because they support minhee jin like the girls support her for a reasone right ?? So why don't we just accept the reality like it's their choice to choose between minhee jin and hybe and they want minhee jin cause she was the one who was there for them at their hard time she is their 2nd mother for them hybe was mistreating them i am sorry to say that but Newjeans are better with old ador staff member and minhee jin
I get it. They have good reason to support her. Girlies support her cuz girlies are just like her 😂. Like how she thinks it's ok to cover up SA of ex ador employee, like how she had naked pics of underage girls in her bedroom, like how she bad mouthed other girl groups, like how she supports coca cola, like how she plagiarized mexican gg JEANS and Japanese gg SPEED, like how she bodyshamed the members behind their backs. They be like mean girls gang skrt skrt 🤟
MHJ and NJ fans were the one responsible for NJ downfall.......They says NJ is more popular than hybe and do things without them.....And other side they say NJ wants MHJ........i mean stand on what you say hypocrites
I can't with MHJ , NJ and all their supporters acting like Ador is theirs...😅🤣🤣🤣.....Management changes all the time and with the stunts MHJ pulled yall expect Hybe to not get her inline??....Coming Nov 1...will she even be in a job at Ador?? And NJ are playing in uncharted waters....they have no idea that no matter how the public loves them or what not....they wouldn't be the first loved of popular group to get dismantle and become irrelevant if they continue messes with Hybe with this bratty behavior.....they should stay out of MHJ and Hybe legal battles if the want to survive in the company to even see a world tour....
Yeah, right, they are supporting the woman who supported sexual aasualter, not the victim and who fatshamed the group and called them brainless and said that without her newjeans would be nothing without her and I am just shocked that how can the girls support them and the bunnies .
@@loveujin585it's amazing what manipulation and money can do....lol....It's like a husband who is a terrible person....narcissist, abuser, psychopath, personality disorder, liar....but financially supports the wife....so in everyone's eyes...as long as he's supporting her financially to live well....all other problems isn't important and in denial of everything else....that's how MHJ is with NJ and how most of their fans support esp...MHJ....they ignore everything else and remain in denial..lol
@multistan9582 yeah right I am just fed up with this drama because of this drama many hybe artists have faced so much hate. i am just tired of this drama, right now.
@@multistan9582 It isn't only MHJ Hybe isn't any better or NJ wouldn't site with MHJ. Hybe have cut Gfriend and they will do the same with NJ. I hope for the girls that they find a way out of this.
I mean, whether they like HYBE or not, the best thing for NJ's career is to continue staying with the company. HYBE is a HUGE company that has connections all over the world. You go against that and you lose all those connections, not to mention the possibility of being blacklisted in BOTH Korea and the western industry. Like just take a look at all the SM idols who sued SME, they're nowhere to be found in the Korean entertainment industry because they're blacklisted. What more if it's a bigger company like HYBE? Not only will they be blacklisted in Korea but also the US. The girls need to be smart about this.
new jeans are creating more enemies within hybe even with ador new ceo and new employees with still publicly siding min heejin. just being unprofessional
Nj were given extravagant perks from day one other hybe groups didn’t get! Never once did they ever thank hybe for their generosity instead going out of their way to dis hybe at award shows but thanking mhj only. Selfish behaviour on nj part and they continue to disrespect hybe showing how shallow and disgusting they are with their spoiled behaviour! I hope they pay for their selfishness and disappear from the music scene.
They're literal kids. And just because other idols get mistreated, doesn't mean they should too. If a SVT member breaks their legs, does that mean another idol has to just for you to sympathize with them? NJs already worked hard, even when their youngest member was a literal freaking CHILD. A child works harder than you. And you wish them mistreatment and bad health? Because you want to support a company than a human being? 🤨
@@ashantythegreat3231 they are not children. They made the conscious decision to get involved in this dispute. They had everything handed to them on levels no other hybe artist received yet they never thanked hybe for the priviledges and immense opportunities given them. Hybe provided them with top makeup, hair, luxury house, money and access to their vast contacts and paid for their videos and training Mhj paid for very little for them and they continually chose to publically thank her and her alone in public settings. Their disloyalty to the company that made their success possible shows how selfish and of poor character they are. They are old enough to know whats going on, chose to bite the hand that feeds them and supported the woman that throws them under the bus! Nj has talent but their image is forever tarnished due to their selfishness and poor character!!
mhj is actually very cunning and smart. she babied them so much and make sure they feel like their success is thx to her and the girlies only, no hybe/bts privilege, even saying their cameo on ptd mv is a “forced” thing instead of being thankful to get exposure
@@startrilogy Exactly. NJs be giving their fans and staff all gratitude. Just because they don't thank a company that doesn't even care about them doesn't make them ungrateful. They thank those who help them, not those random people ask them for respect when that company doesn't respect NJs at all.
The fear that new jeans packaging will become excessive using seventeen as an example is unfair considering NJs double single had 9 versions. For a 5 member group, that is excessive at the least. No other group has had a MV for every single they release. No one has that budget, not even BTS, the real money makers. This fear of NJ not being able to do what they want is ill founded. No company has unlimited resources and its unfair to continue working like you do. I feel bad for all other groups in hybe who dont have the resources ador is using and still bring in alot of money or have put in alot of years of work.
In the end, from all the conflicts that have occurred, the ones who end up as victims are the artists themselves. Hopefully, there will be a resolution for them 😥
New Jeans is the most profitable group under the larger HYBE umbrella. It makes no financial sense at all to sink them. For that reason, I believe (or at least I hope) they will come back stronger from this. For now, all the uncertainty is hard on the group members and the fans. As the old saying goes: "if you find yourself going through Hell, keep going."
@@yomarysanchez6263 Meant girl group "under the HYBE umbrella (which includes ador) recently" but I didn't feel like getting that pedantic about it. There are of course extremely anal-retentive K-pop fans who won't accept anything less than absolute precision in any statement.
@@bonelakiranmai4573 I know MHJ since i am an long time KPOP fan and know her from SM times. Both are worse. The girls are better of without both of them. Hybe isn't any better then MHJ. (Gfriend, Le serafim's lost member and Pop star academy to only name a few things.)
Their music videos should be on NJ’s channel, it doesn’t make sense that their videos be on this director’s channel. The content doesn’t belong to him. 100% agree with the company on that decision. And HYBE/Adore should disband NJ especially if they cannot move on from this mess.
They can actually leave hybe by voluntarily leaving within the contract given that they need to pay $732 million dollars and leave all the copyright music to hybe.
The power ploy in this situation is so messy and dark. Let's not down play the fact that MHJ might hindered NewJeans relationships with other HYPE groups by implicating them in the lawsuit which was negative towards their own hardwork and credibility they've built for themselves like a BTS. Saying they copied her themes and ideas while the group is 10+years old while NewJeans is considered to be fairly new in the industry. She down right sabotaged tue girls and then following and supporting her blindly is affecting them actively in their careers.
Kookliet I hope u are ready to get sue for spreading lies against suga. Why u deleted the video. Ur jobless behaviour doesn’t have courage to hold the video anymore
Is a company problem why they still defending mnj when she say she care the grup but she don’t want to come back if she is not the CEO and more mony🤦🏻♀️
MHJ destroyed NJ and badmouth all the groups from HYBE. So how this is Hybe problem. They try to protect they groups and don’t involve the groups in this mess. But MHJ didn’t care and involved the girls, sad but NJ are destroyed because of their and MHJ actions.
newjeans disbanding would not be a smart move. not only are they the most successful girlgroup under hybe which means they would take a big financial hit disbanding them, but doing so could make the public so upset with hybe that it’ll backfire on the rest of hybe groups. not to mention stockholders who help invest in these groups wouldn’t be super happy seeing all that hardwork and money go down the drain bc of internal conflicts that were not handle properly. disbandment would make the public furious, make hybe look unprofessional and incapable of managing groups, have investors back out bc of that, and potentially having the backlash released on their other groups. it’d be an insane decision to make.
Except that hybe ss one of the big three and don't need newjeans. They have bts, enhypen, txt, le sserafim and seventeen. I would say that new jeans would be a minor loss at most considering how many other extremely popular groups they have.
I really don't understand why the NJ members are like the brave puppies of MHJ like always thank her everywhere and stay on her side, when she's not even a good person that'd be worth of staying on side with... they're literally damaging themselves at this point!
Without MHJ I don't think they'd be this big. There are so many ggs but new jeans have made a mark. How many of us remember Weki Meki or Cherry Bullet or Purple Kiss or BerryGood etc
Who are you to say she's not a good person? Do you know her? Did you talk with the girls? So you agree that really nasty old man can manage woman in the industry without facing consequences of their inhumane behavior but y'all still claiming they know better? It's like your laughing at the suffering of Korean woman. Do and be better, please.
If they do this there musst be a reason. MHJ isn't innocent, but i think she was for the girls a savior with all that happened at that time. And Hybe isn't better than her.
@@bpatcweredabomb2076 hmmm maybe MHJ was responsible for their MAJOR success but they would've become really big either way since they're under hybe and every group of that company gets really popular since they have that company name behind them... so they should rather thank hybe for their name instead of MHJ
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i just hope that new jeans continues being a group that they are
newjeans will go on "vacation" after concert next year.. then they will be gone...
@@BigDaddyMacc why thinking bad for them?
@@BigDaddyMacc maybe they will change their whole concept
@@BigDaddyMacc lets hope that does not happens
@@rayjessica9404 because they openly supported MHJ in spite of HYBE and the new CEO. Plus HYBE's past obliteration of GFRIEND makes some fans fearful of the same fate
I fear if the girls keep aligning themselves with Min Hee Jin they will end up being hurt. Change at work can be unnerving but to reject it before you even know how things are going to go is unprofessional. When all this is done Hybe will still be a huge company, Min Hee Jin will still be a millionaire and NJ’s reputation/ fame will have taken a hit. These girls need to focus on themselves and stay out of this. MHJ is just using them
THIS!!! I love the girls but I feel like they’re being used and they don’t even know it. Don’t get me wrong, Hybe is terrible but Mhj isn’t innocent either!
I do worry about them even though i'm just a casual listener. At their age, they may be thinking they know better and thus do things to show who they support. I do hope they have a knowledgeable adult who can guide them in this industry.
It’s not just Min hee Jin it’s their parents too.
not yall talking like uk more than the girls-
dont get me wrong, ur making a good point.. if only what you know was everything there is to know..
I cant believe how many times i have to remind people that we dont know EVERYTHING...
if they keep doing that, i think it has a very good reason and we should believe that until proven otherwise...
True!! Those girls are groomed
Disbandment is far from happening soon but i will be expecting they will be put aside or worst abandoned (like less effort and low quality concept for comebacks) or less tours, promotions and exposure 🥺 like what they did with formis_9😔
We bunnies won’t just sit still lol
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 Then make go fund me and buy out their contract... What bunnies can do?
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 aw what you gonna do? cry?
They're way more popular than fromis9
Ofcourse they r popular that person was just concerned for nj that it's not saying that they are not famous or anything .. .
I hope they continue as a group😢
Hope they disband so we don’t see those monsters faces again.
@@vixxexo6855 wtf do u mean
@@vixxexo6855the only monster is you🤡🤡
@@vixxexo6855girl shut up
@@vixxexo6855you bugging calling them monsters ngl
I’m so confused and so worried for NJ now, they’re such a great talent I won’t want to lose☹️ Hope their Company settles their dispute soonest & not causing NJ to suffer along🙏🏼
Then don't get involve , they dont even learn from FF.
They are no talent, only talent is to mention Min Heejin 24/7z
@@vixxexo6855 vocals? pretty strong dance? stage presence ? Thats really just some , they make amazing music so please 🤫
new jeans dont believe on themselves. they only give mhj the credit to all their success.
О чём вы говорите? Их компания задумала их уничтожить и они с самого дебюта были для Бан Ши Хёка нелюбимым ребёнком.. Единственный их шанс на спасение, это быть вместе с Мин Хи Джин.
These poor girls! I'm hoping and praying that things will work out for them and that all the stuff with HYBE and MHJ will be background noise. Hopefully, as time passes, this situation will be seen as a hurdle that they were able to overcome. If you love NewJeans, keep supporting the girls, and don't give up on them. They are so young and impressionable and need time to process all this. They are going through this in the public eye, and who knows what they are being told that we do not know.
I just hope they dont disband them. That's what happened with gfriend when Hybe took over. I assume they are going to gove new jeans music to illit and newjeans will get whatever is left over from lesserafim and illit.
Lol 😂... new jeans was literally playing "victim card" when it comes to hate... if something happened to NJ min hee jin will shift all the hate towards to illit & le sserafim 😂.... but idiots 😂 like you don't understand this
& yes gfriend doesn't have that super extraordinary achievement 😂😂....
I thought mistreatment of girl groups were already a huge red flag from the start in Hybe. Remember how they didn't want to continue with Glam as trio or add new lineups? Or never bothered to make a new girl group? That should already said a lot.
Belift, source, ador are different company. Mhj won't give anyone nj music
I mean I just hope the girls ain't crazy enough to go against hybe for min he Jin or they are done for
@@VujisicN they are already against hybe
Normally, I don't like to comment on such complex issues, but I feel all the people who are rightfully worried about NJ are taking it out too much on HYBE and too less on MHJ. Let's be serious, do you really think that HYBE is going to happily work with MHJ after the level of backstabbing she has clearly done? You all claim that BSH might go after NJ due to ego, like MHJ hasn't hold onto the fact that NJ, despite their immense success, is not first HYBE GG like LSM, to the point that she unnecessarily dragged them in her feud? Even if I dislike it, Illit's mention still made sense from the copying allegations perspective. She had been given insane freedom and creative control, the title of NJ's mother like she did not basically take the trainees from Source Music, the ones to actually invest in them. It is rumored so take this one with a pinch of salt - that Gfriend was not disbanded by Hybe for LSM, but because they needed funds for making a new label - Ador. The way MHJ has made herself bigger than NJ is insane and people aren't just seeing how manipulative she is being, constantly dragging her emotional relationship with girls to cover up her unprofessionalism, that she actually just sees them as tools (her texts which has not denied even now), and that she was actually trying to get them away from HYBE - the one who had invested in them in the first place. The creativity (and p*do stuff, which I'll not get into) is MHJ's, but the financial backing, which did give them the things - apartment, payment in their 2 month of debut, the sponsorships etc. are all HYBE's. The way Teddy is behind most of BlackPink's music, but we never see the girls as nothing without him, they are their own individuals, we can't see NJ. Sadly, MHJ has made herself such a big part of it all that we can't see the girls' talents beyond MHJ's vision. The director threw a tantrum by deleting all the videos when HYBE asked them to not upload more as they have the copyright - which is professional and logical, and of course why would they want to continue relationship with someone who supported MHJ who, reminder, backstabbed them?
The worry about NJ's future and the girls themselves is understandable. But we should trust the girls' talents beyond MHJ instead of making her their core. That woman is problematic and should not have been let anywhere near minors - the song Cookie is a clear example. But HYBE, their parents, and MHJ were all making profits so no one spoke up. When discord regarding division of those profits came up, it all fell apart. I am not supporting HYBE or think they are better for NJ. But the way they are being portrayed as big bad villain from whom only MHJ can rescue NJ, when she is just as bad, if not worse is annoying me. Separating MHJ from the girls is for the best because if you look at it, all the scandals they have had have nothing to do with NJ but everything to do with her, and she uses them as her sympathy shield to get out of any criticism. The vision of the group will change no doubt, and I hope, for the better. But it is high time they need to become their own group with their own identity, not MHJ's extensions.
Most agreed
Finally some sense in this comment section! Also source was behind Newjeans debut, so their concept might not change entirely. I agree with everything you said and I also want to note that the girls need to be their own separate entity from her in order for them to grow. They can't just rely on her or that director they worked with. That directior is not the only talented director in the industry. That Ban Heesoo Channel isnt really needed to understand the message behind Ditto. I believe if they give themselves the chance to grow beyond her they will become bigger than they already are.
Agree, the girls are looking for unnecessary trouble right now, I hope they won't come to us crying that Hybe put them in a dungeon when they're humiliating Hybe's CEO by publicly defending MHJ on every occasion... Would be good for them to keep it low and inside for a moment. Beside love & sentiments, we're still talking business, respect of hierarchy, money, founding and : professionalism (I didn't see the last one on the MHJ/NJ side recently who keep pulling the drama/crying/sad cards everywhere)
I agree with you but understand NJ fans as well, as you said NJ brand is MHJ baby, pride and gem at the same time Hybe/BSH doesn't look that bonded with the brand+the girls, I really don't now if the new Ador head will care for the brand at least the same level MHJ use to do, Hybe is a huge corporate with a lot of brands/groups at their belt they can have one group not being that profitable, for exemple Fromis_9 being held at PLEDIS basement for taht long.
Yeah hell no. I actually support MHJ and.......not whatever the fuck the company give to the poor girls.
They are young and sheltered, they dont understand profits & lost.The video they released of all 5 is damaging for their career. I know they want resolutions but disrespecting the new Ceo by calling her without her title and saying she doesn't care about the.while they call Min Jin with title, giving Hybe and Ultimatum, telling them to stay in their lane and basically asking for their old CEO. You work for an international company, and you talk about the head negatively, who will want to work with you or support you. You have lost their trust and loyalty. I like these girls, and I have sympathy for them, but this was not a good look.
Tbh with all happening, it's getting hard to see the girls without mhj and seems like their fans think too.
NJ doesn't have fans because they are MHJ's fans. It's more concerning how brainwashed they are. What group treats the CEO like one of the members?
since tokkis are basically siding with mhj, i can see NJ girlies’ fear of losing their fandom who see mhj as the 6th member and key person in NJ success. it’s pretty sad
@@Super_Chamchia group that has a good and ACTUAL relationship with its ceo. You see groups from JYP with a really good bond with their ceo, even bigger than that of new jeans. Bang Pd, when bts first was created by him, was insanely close with the members. He was their producer and their manager. Min Hee Jin is the producer and creative director of the group, meaning she spent a lot of time training them in between stage performances and concerts. That's her job. So before bringing up this over repeated argument about having a good relationship with your CEO, remember all the groups who have also had good relationships with theirs. It's like now, having a good relationship with your CEO is taboo. It's evil, it's nasty, it's criminal. That's the mindset of 90% of international stans.
You want them to have a bloodbath with each other, go engage in other companies and groups' business. You also forget, these girls know more than us. They are old enough to reason. They aren't fragile, they aren't brainwashed, you are, along with everyone else who is so blindly in love with Hybe and it's ceo, that they shun all reason and logic and instead, let their wild imaginations take over.
@@Super_Chamchithey are kids and can be brainwashed easily cause they don't know how the outside world works and its a very sensitive time for them cause they're all dependent on mhj and now they know nothing even about politics either they need to focus on themselves now
sad that they dont have any credit for their success as everyone thinks all their success is because of mhj and without her they would be a flop
I like New jeans music, but I hate everything surrounding them. Especially HYBE and MHJ.
Why HYBE?
@@lupecurtis4309 it's an MNC. No MNC is good..
@@lupecurtis4309 it's an MNC. No MNC is good..
@@lupecurtis4309This is the new Spring trend.
Me too
*Im afraid this is the beginning of the end for NJ…*
*BSH isnt fond of the girls, top priority will be Le Sserafim and most esp ILLIT, and New Jeans will be the least priority… Lock the girls in basement. And the New Jeans story ends like Gfriend…*
Yaaaaaaeyyyyy
Up to NJ and their fans….
BTS, (even under a bankrupt small label & facing all the sabotage, vile cyberbullying from big competitor companies/crazy fandoms/corrupt KMedia who banded together to attack BTS/BH/Army from the very start) were able to show their creativity, art, hard work, love for the fans. Army realized/saw all that and totally supported BTS. Army organized, strategized, opened outlets in different countries, banded together, researched, kept receipts, helped them win awards and made BTS/BH so profitable that they can survive and achieve all their dreams plus turned a bankrupt BigHit into a conglomerate like Hybe to help other artists/labels achieve the same thing. Remember in the presscon of PTD….RM said clearly that 50% of the success is credited to Army (hard work, intelligence, dedication and strategic moves)
Can New Jeans/Bunnies do the same? It shld be easier since Army/BTS/Hybe gave them a head start by giving millions 💵, all the exposure & promotion to start. Obviously MHJ and her ilk won’t work for free. She got so much. Even Army supported NJ. Can Bunnies do what Army did? It shld be easier coz Armys already paved the way….they made it profitable for the global outlets to carry K-pop albums, they put KPop so much in the global map with their solid support of BTS, Bunnies don’t need to start from scratch. NJ will still continue to exist if profits keep coming. If NJ/Bunnies can’t get a handle on their emotions, be uninspired, bratty and unprofessional, full of excuses & keep blaming everyone except themselves, then they will not be profitable….they will end up just like gfriend….disband because they have no more money and the fans did not support them enough. They cnt blame the producers, etc….no excuse. BTS did so much effort…they wrote the lyrics, music, produced etc with much less resources. NJ/bunnies really have no excuse. All NJ/Bunnies need to do is follow the blueprint of BTS/BH/Army. Pledis (17) did the same….JYP (Straykids) bff of BSH also knows & followed the blueprint….write their own lyrics, etc. and Carats/Stays supported them. NJ and Bunnies shld hv an easy time. It will be so bad if they don’t achieve the same level of success.
@@SoftieMoka Why “yay”. This is serious and not good for the girls.
@@dolluhvvDon’t mind them antis sowing negativity the universe will give them all that energy back
Because these girls are ungrateful. No another groups have these privileges like NJ. If the girls stayed away from the drama and work everything would be fine. Who want to invest in a group who will after shade you and tell how shity you are.
Why cant the girls keep out of this feud ? Why must they address things so publicly dont they care about their career and their future if they love Min its not too late to go with her when she wins she should advice them to preserve their image and stay out of thus mess if she loves them as a mother. Hybe tried to do this for them with hiatus but fans were all over it sighs silence is whats best for the girls right now
i think we are forgetting the girls were dragged into the fued without a choice form both side you cant blame them for speaking and saying what they think is right
@@meghasingh-c1f if you were dragged into something ure focus would be how to get out of it no? Silence is key here they are choosing to speak and take a side there's no gun to their heads
I agree
@@splendore.ngrandeur3599 its called freedom. if they think its right to voice out their opinion then thats their decision. sometimes not speaking up can eat you alive inside. id choose mental health over career all day.
@@vinfinity0626 sometimes the effect of speaking can consume you entirely, Also we all know not everything we feel or think inside is right for us. WORDS CANT BE UNSAID OR UNHEARD ESP FOR THOSE UNDER PUBLIC SCRUTINY. ITS THE OBSESSION WITH MIN THAT WE ARE AGAINST. They can talk about not feeling confident or being anxious but being overly fixated with MIN is not it even non fans find it weird.
The most disturbing thing in this situation is the new jeans members keep on publicly voicing support for min heejin. Who is currently being investigated for covering up a sexual harassment that occurred under her..
liar
@@strigoiu13not a lie
lol.. covering up sexual assault?? The employee B didn't even sue her for that.
sexual harassment, not sexual assault
@@MinSeokSong-f8d NHJ is currently under investigation for covering up sexual harassment that occurred on her staff
These girls need to think loooonnnnggggg and hard on their next step. If they go the loyal to Min route they will effectively end their own careers. Trying to sue Hybe to let them out of their contracts will turn them into a fifty fifty clone. Even if they manage to get out of the contracts no one is going to want to sign/work with people who ignore their contractual obligations cause mah feelings! Yes the situation sucks but unless they stay professional, and distance themselves from it, its going to be R.I.P. New Jeans.
Fifty fifty got a new contract so they definitely will
@@DUNGSTAWell they are not fifty fifty anymore because fifty fifty has new members.
@@malefuelizabethramatelile2631 the old members got a new contract with another company so newjeans will do the same
From an outsider perspective, MHJ planned a hostile takeover of Adore a HYBE subsidiary. In the business world, the parent company has every right to prevent the hostile takeover of their subsidiary company.
Don't expect primary and middle school students understand how corporate work.
@@anubizz3 Exactly! Teenage bunnies are blinded by "emotion", crying, sadness, drama... Anything else doesn't speak to them (business, self-respect, professionalism)
What do you even mean with "hostile takeover of Adore"? She was already the CEO of Adore. If what you mean is to have Adore break away from HYBE and become an independent company. Well that's not even possible and they've already proven that in court. That's why HYBE lost that case and was not able to kick MHJ out. HYBE owns the majority of Shares in Adore, MHJ is just the CEO but her shares of the company is just minimal.
Everything that's happening here is just because HYBE is bitter cause MHJ called them out for blatantly molding Illit out of NewJeans. Which was already very obvious anyway from the very start. And with BSH and HYBE's vast history of ruining their own girl groups, it's very obvious that their willing to go that far with NewJeans. I would be very happy if I'm wrong though cause I just want NewJeans to continue being successful for a very long time.
that doesnt mean that NJ has to be destroyed by them?
@@yelyl136 You are so naive. MHJ DID plan a hostile takeover of ADOR behind Hybe's back. She got caught and they launched an internal investigation on her. She then went public and created a whole false narrative about her being persecuted for being a whistleblower to distract from the truth.
She has done nothing but damage everything and everyone around her because of her ego and greed. And unfortunately, NJ will likely be the ones to bear the brunt of the negative consequences.
I think NJ is losing focus on what's important: their careers. You may or may not like the new Ador's CEO or Hybe but this is a business and to think that the company that already invested in a product that has proven to be successful is going to boycott it's ridiculous. Just think!! MHJ not only has conflicts with Hybe but now he also has a complaint for harassment of an employee and not to mention his rather shady background. Do the bunnies really want someone like that influencing and managing the members so much? I think they should focus on their careers and maintain what they have achieved.
what's more important? Integrity or career?
@@MinSeokSong-f8d Do you think it is integrity to support a woman of questionable reputation? I hope that "their integrity" doesn't ruin their career.
@@carinaluna1350 Well one thing is for sure. They know the situation better than us. And they probably know that supporting MHJ publicly is not a strategic move career-wise (at least for now, since MHJ cannot become CEO again for now). I personally don't buy any BS surrounding this incident, so you may disagree with me, but we need to wait until the court decision comes out in a few months, to see if she really was a witch.
@@MinSeokSong-f8d Isn’t the law suit hype vs mhj not including ador label and New jeans? Remember new jeans contract is still under hype, like you said we don’t know much unless New jeans is trying to break the contract or later try sue hype so they can get out of the contract.
@@MinSeokSong-f8d You're right... time will clear up all doubts.
I feel like NJ members are worried about their future, Hybe is like already done with NewJeans after the controversy that MHJ brought. and NJ & their parents supporting MHJ publicly just makes Hybe feel even more done with NJ. That's what I get. I mean both MHJ and HYBE are not completely right but publicly supporting MHJ just makes things worse. Its like NewJeans this big also because it is famous as Hybe artist too
Hybe was the one started it, I'm not sure how is this brought by MHJ. Are you even reading the right source? If this was MHJ fault, other directors, producer and even news articles wouldn't have side with Newjeans. Think instead of jumping on the wagon like a mindless cult.
Hybe will be boycotted by all the bunnies, we bunnies won’t just sit still and watch lol
@@eslnter Huh?? How did HYBE start this when the whole reason they went to court in the first place was because they found out MHJ was trying to take over ADOR secretly? Like you should take your own advice and "think instead of jumping on the wagon like a mindless cult"
@@IconicClip correction Hybe was the one who sabotaged them, remember?
@@kkurassant You didn't even know. Ugh, mfs be lazy out here
am not the worry about if they are being mistreating and now they putting them in the basement they never done anything wrong
They kind of did, but it's not their fault? They supported MHJ because of the pressure from their parents, when they should have stayed silent and watched the scene unfold, but instead supported her since day 1 with little to zero proof that either of the sides is good to back up. I mean most of the group are young adults and one can argue they could think for themselves but MHJ quite literally brainwashed them to think NWJS is nothing without them.
From this whole incident i got to know how toxic bunnies are and for them their music is more important than the girls seriously man mhj past is wild and moreover according to her past she should stay away from minors
liar
Some bunnies were disappointing indeed, justice for BTS Suga, ILLIT & LE SSERAFIM dragged unnecessarily in this mess by toxic fans. Remember that karm is a B and that you create an army of antis by yourselves and your actions (don't worry no need to justify, I know how exceptions work and that not all the bunnies were attacking the other Hybe groups, but I hope you can give some peace to other groups now and focus on the NJ girls who need your support more than ever. Hybe was never the problem, deal with it)
@eminence-c8lgirl what hybe has always problems?they never had any scandals until last 2 years they are the least problematic company and now people are saying they will be mistreated isn't it their fault they are keep on supporting mhj even when her chats were exposed she neither denied that chats it is also proven that mhj went to shareholders to seperate ador from hybe when it is not even her's coming to bunnies they don't even care about girls all they want is their music they keep on sending trucks to hybe and their parents they are the most dumbest ones they complain about hybe mistreatment but they don't want their daughters to leave the hybe as they are all complaining like no trainees have gone through I am not saying hybe is good company but they are far better than mhj her past is wild
@eminence-c8l what other companies are not insecure? Girl are you new to k-pop or what whole industry is insecure with BTS Don't you remember when sm formed superm and yg send a reporter to ask BTS about their plagiarism issues and I don't know what problems you are talking about and yes hybe is greedy and do you think all other companies are there to give comfort life and be like a family with their idols every company is greedy minded and you are talking as new jeans concept is new they themselves copied from others all this drama started when she caught leaking their own company artists personal information and to cover that she just dragged illit in to the mess and how dumb to think hybe hates asepa just because he said can you beat them may be he is but don't you know how sm has done same as hybe when they debuted superm to beat BTS be positive and think he took asepa as biggest competitor to beat each and every company,CEO everyone are greedy never take any company side and all these things I said I am not defending anyone but all these are facts
@eminence-c8l yes they are bad infact I hate hybe( company a lot) but they are not the one who ruined NJ it is mhj she constantly dragged NJ in to the mess no CEO does that every single time she will mention them if she really cares about them she would have never drag NJ
To be honest them supporting her, hasn’t sat right with me and it’s kind of hard to still listen to them 😕
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes?
but if mhj is grooming nj Bsh is exploiting lsfm
To be honest , those who support the company......I don't know why but their minds are not set straight. Like , look at the way how the company treating MHJ and the girls. It's like Stepmother and her two shit daughters treating Cinderella in the most debaucherous ways.
@@lolwhat6161 to be honest I don’t support either mhj or hybe both terrible people in my opinion but to align yourself so much and so publicly with mhj… where it’s come out how she was towards minors in sm and yes those messages might’ve been debunked but turns out it was true about her wanting to steal nj. In my opinion those girls and their parents should’ve never made any type of public statement. Like are they being brainwashed??? What is it???
It feels heartbreaking to me but I clearly do understand how they feel about this, New jeans should have just stayed silent...
Before hating on NewJeans just remember that they know more than us
YES EXACTLY.. there was just thos comment above you i had to reply under for the same thing.. gosh...
i cant believe people actually think they know more than the girls
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Exactly!! And the people who are supporting Hybe are mostly antis now who are pretending to be bunnies lol.
They will only know exactly what MHJ wants them to know.
Exactly 🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻
@@mahabubajannathashi1199yessss
This is why teenagers have no business debuting as an idol.
Yea blame the idols real fuckin smart blame the damn companies the groups and artists didn't do shit wrong
K-pop entertainment industry is a harsh reality for children to be exposed into. We have seen many idols and celebrities be used and abused in this industry. Children being told to lose weight when they’re already skinny as it is. Children being told you’re not pretty enough. do you guys not remember Goo hara or sully? They were literally bullied so bad by the general public and by other celebrities that they ended up committing suicide! These are children who need time to develop into adults, not manipulated by a woman who 1. called these girls fat 2. covered up for her vice president sexually harassing another employee shall I go on??
@@vjstigallik ,, I also disappointed after knowing reality of companies but my passion is dancing singing and I also wannabe kpop , and also I thought to give audition in hybe but I changed my mind,,, I'll give in yg or gbk bcoz I think they are better ,,,,,but actually I truly wannabe kpop ❤
But teenagers being idol is not a new thing.Its just the way it is.Most of the popular(now)kpop band members debuted as a teenager. You can say NJ became popular while being teenager,but its for a reason!And the reason is they are talented.I mean performing live so smoothly at 15/16 is not a joke right?
I was looking for this comment. It is upsetting that again and again this adolescents and young adults are caught up in such shitty situations, often caused or poorly handled by the companies
The full NewJeans' Live Translation
Hyein : Some of you might be surprised by this sudden meeting, but we wanted to share our thoughts and opinions about the recent events, so we prepared this session. First, I want to explain one of the reasons we decided to do this live. It's been hard to see many people who have worked with us continue to suffer from unfair demands and pressure even after our CEO was dismissed. It was frustrating to just stand by and watch these situations unfold, and we were very worried about our future as a group of five. Honestly, while preparing for this live, we were naturally concerned about the reactions we might receive afterward. We were also worried that people might mistakenly think that our CEO instructed us to do this, but I want to clarify that this live was prepared because we five members genuinely wanted to express our thoughts. We received help from directors we trust for things we couldn't prepare ourselves, like setting up the shoot and finding a location. It didn’t feel right for us to stay silent when everyone, including our Bunnies, has been stepping up to support us. Moreover, this is not just a matter of leaving it to the adults because it directly affects the lives of us five members. Since we're the ones going through this, we felt that it would be healthier to speak up ourselves than to do nothing, so we mustered the courage to do so. The main point of what we want to say today is directed towards HYBE. We've already had meetings with the current management to express our opinions, but after seeing what happened afterward, it feels like our concerns weren't clearly conveyed. It seemed like communication was blocked, so we felt that preparing this live was the only way to properly share our thoughts and feelings.
Minji : I’m sure that today’s announcement has shocked many of the staff as well, as they were not aware of it, and I imagine everyone watching is quite surprised too. We’ve thought a lot about where to begin, but since the purpose is to express our intentions, we’ll try to explain as clearly as possible. Of course, due to contractual issues, we can’t share everything, but we’ll be as honest as we can. After it was decided that we would debut as NewJeans, our members spent a lot of time getting to know Min Heejin Daepyonim, both as a group and individually. At first, I had reservations and a certain fear towards the adults we were working with, but Daepyonim was the first person to approach us in a way that allowed us to open up, which was initially awkward but eventually built trust. From before our debut until now, we’ve been aware of various issues related to our debut schedule and other matters. However, working with Daepyonim made us feel good, and I believe that’s why we were able to debut successfully and continue our activities until now. This has been today’s news story.
Danielle : Naturally, we all want to continue working with Daepyonim. Even before debuting as NewJeans and through all of the time that we spent together with Min Heejin Daepyonim, all of us felt that the music we wanted to make and the kind of world we wanted to build together, our vision, was similar in so many ways. With Min Heejin Daepyonim, we were able to prepare each and every task with sincere hearts, and I believe it shows in our work. Putting our sincere effort into something is only possible because of the people that we're working with have trust in each other and have that same vision. Min Heejin Daepyonim is not only the person that produces our music, but someone who makes NewJeans who we are. She discusses even the smallest details with us and explains them in ways that we can understand clearly. NewJeans has a distinct colour and tone, and this was created with Min Heejin Daepyonim. She is integral to NewJeans’ identity, and we all feel that she is irreplaceable.
Haerin : However, even after our debut, there have been many unfair and incomprehensible incidents that you might not know about, and these incidents have only increased over time. As some of you may know, recently, videos from our trainee days and private records, such as medical information, were leaked. When I first saw that, I was really shocked. It was hard to understand how our company, which is supposed to protect us, failed to manage and allowed such information to be leaked. Naturally, this situation has made us worry that other strange or false information about us might spread in the future. Although we, along with our parents and Min Heejin Daepyonim, have raised concerns about this to HYBE, they haven’t resolved the issue, nor have they taken any proactive measures. Then, in the midst of all this, our CEO was dismissed, and we’re left wondering whom we can trust and rely on. We’ve come to the conclusion that if we don’t speak out about this now, no one will know what we’re going through. After much discussion among ourselves, we finally decided to take this step.
Hanni : Something happened to me recently. The 4th floor of the HYBE building is where we get our hair and makeup done, so a lot of other artists and staff come and go there. One day, I was waiting alone in the hallway, and some staff from another team passed by. We greeted each other, but when they came back out a bit later, I heard one of their managers say, “Ignore her,” right in front of me. I could hear and see everything clearly. Even now, I still don’t understand why I had to go through that.
Minji : When I heard about what Hanni experienced, I was really shocked. How could a manager from another team tell their members to ignore one of us, and say it so loudly that Hanni could hear it? Such unimaginable words and behavior were directed at us, yet there was no apology, nor did they even acknowledge their wrongdoing. Of course, I’m worried about our future, but what’s most frightening is that the work we’ve already created is being compromised. Seeing the people who have poured their lives into creating our work being treated this way makes it hard to understand how this could be happening. The new management said they would separate producing and management, but we’ve always worked differently from other labels, and we thought that our way was a good one. Now, Daepyonim can no longer approve all matters, and we’re left wondering how we’re supposed to continue working as we did before. The recent statement from the new management also didn’t make sense to me. If they really didn’t intend to interfere with our producing, then the recent incident with Director Shin Woo-seok should never have happened, and it should have been handled differently. We are the ones directly involved with the copyrights and likeness rights of our content, yet they’re making decisions without our consent. In their statement, they kept saying they were acting to protect us and prevent our anxiety, but why do they keep insisting on this when they haven’t considered our wishes? We don’t want any more unnecessary issues to arise, and we want them to show respect and consideration for Daepyonim and all the directors who have worked with us. The things they’re doing right now are not in our best interest at all.
Hanni : Something we all find very important, something that plays a very important role in our team's colour and image is our media content and creative production. Despite saying that they would leave all the creative production to our now former CEO, Min Heejin, through official statements that I think a lot of you might have already read or seen, and also during our personal meetings, they infringed our content. Content that not only we worked really hard on, but also our staff who spent endless hours to produce and release them solely for our fans. And if they had any understanding about what type of team we are, and the type of content that we create, they would have thought more deeply for crossing the line that they set for themselves. Because of this incident, we realized that there's not much we can do to prevent these type of issues. Personally, the way that ADOR used to run was the business management and creative production was not separated and was factors that played and worked in harmony with each other. That's how it worked and it was perfectly fine. It was our way of working and it was our CEO's way of producing NewJeans' content, which a lot of you were able to enjoy and appreciate. But now that she's no longer CEO, these factors that should have continued to work together in harmony are now being seen as two different areas of work
Minji : Besides this, there are many other incidents we’ve experienced that are beyond my understanding-things that are frightening and uncomfortable. These incidents naturally make us question whether HYBE really cares about NewJeans, and there are clear signs of this. However, it’s hard to discuss everything today because we’re not sure how far things could escalate. We just hope you can understand a little of what’s been on our minds and why we chose to speak out in this way.
Danielle: As I mentioned earlier, our dream was to perform the music we want to make with Daepyonim, and we were working very hard toward that goal. But now, we can’t do that, and the plans we’ve made might not come to fruition. As Hanni unnie said earlier, just like that, the content that we released solely for our fans, for our bunnies, was instantly erased. And I truly can't understand why anyone would do this to a group, or just anyone in general. We were just working hard for the present, so what did we do wrong? A week after Daepyonim was dismissed, we found out that we could no longer work with the director we’ve been working with all this time, and we’re extremely anxious because we don’t know what will happen to the staff who have always worked hard for us. If they really care about us, they should stop saying that they prioritize the artists and instead let us do the music we love in an environment where we can be genuinely happy. Is that really so hard to do? It’s hard to fully express what’s in my heart, but in the end, the five of us just want to continue our activities with Min Heejin Daepyonim, as we have done so far.
Haerin : Personally, I want to continue working with the people around us who have helped me grow mentally and made me feel alive. However, I can't understand, nor do I think I should have to understand, why external forces are constantly obstructing and hindering us. I absolutely cannot comprehend what is truly in our best interest or what is supposed to help us grow. And I feel so sorry and heartbroken that our Bunnies, who found comfort in us and shared joyful memories with us, have to go through this ordeal and worry about things they shouldn't have to. We almost lost the work that symbolizes the relationship between NewJeans and Bunnies, and we don't want to lose anything else. I refuse to conform to or follow the values of the society those people belong to, and because I believe that direction is not the right one, I will not choose to go that way.
Hyein : We found out about the CEO's dismissal through the news on the very day it happened. It was so sudden and unimaginable for all of us, and honestly, it was really difficult for us to process. As artists under HYBE, the company's unilateral notification made it clear to us that they don't respect us at all. In the midst of this confusion, we heard through our manager that the new CEO wanted to meet with us. From the very first action taken by the newly appointed Juyoung, it was clear that there was no consideration for us. He claimed to care for us, to prioritize NewJeans, but looking at everything that has happened, it's evident that his words were just that-empty words. HYBE’s actions, like publishing articles that painted us in a bad light just a week before our comeback, make us question how any of this is supposed to be in our best interest.
Minji : It's already been half a year of unnecessary and exhausting discussions about us and NewJeans, and even as a third party, it must be tiring. As the ones directly involved, it’s incredibly uncomfortable for us. We still have music we want to make and goals we want to achieve together, but as things stand now, it’s heartbreaking to think that we might lose not only the work we’ve created so far but also the identity of our team. That’s what makes us feel so helpless. We held this live stream to express our feelings because we sincerely want this tiresome conflict to end.
Hanni : Like how we have our own and individual thoughts and feelings, we have the choice to choose how we will react to each situation, and we are not going to follow Hybe's every order blindly. We are more than well aware that this is getting in the way of our work, and that we should be treated much, much better than how we are right now. And it's very hard to believe that they are truly sincere about wanting to help us continue, to be able to continue to work with our Daepyonim, Min Heejin Daepyonim. Despite her being in the midst of all this current legal conflict, she's expected to plan and creatively produce our future endeavours in just only two months, which I personally think makes no sense at all. We don't want to hear all the empty words of how they're going to help us continue to work with Min Heejin, Daepyonim. And all we want is this legal conflict to be resolved and have our working environment returned back to normal the way it was before.
Hyein : The way HYBE is operating right now feels dishonest and wrong to us. Please, stop interfering. Reinstating our CEO and returning us to the original ADOR environment we had before, with familiar people, not strangers, would make things right. We’re not asking for special treatment; we just want everyone to do their jobs well in their respective places. We’ll do our best in our roles too. We sincerely hope our request is heard.
Danielle : From a human perspective, I hope you stop harassing our CEO, Min Hee Jin. Honestly, she seems so pitiful, and HYBE just comes across as an inhumane company. What can we possibly learn from a company like this? So, I really hope you stop bothering our CEO.
Minji : What we want is the original ADOR, where CEO Min Hee Jin leads both management and production. The reason we're making this request is because it's a way to coexist peacefully without conflict with HYBE. If our message has been conveyed properly, we hope Chairman Bang and HYBE make a wise decision to restore ADOR to its original state by the 25th. Thank you for listening to us.
They really are still kids smh
@@chakho8548 wdym?
@@ProtectNewJeans1 they're asking for things based on their emotions without thinking of the consequences of their public statements. Their words make sense in their perspective but they're talking to a business entity. Strip HYBE of whatever halo they have as BTS's mother company, it's a profit-oriented company. Do they really think that HYBE's goal is to make their dreams come true? No. It's to make money for their inventors like all enterprises m They're not gonna hand over the reins to another person who proven herself to be against their business interest so that NJ can do their music. They'l ask for the return of the money used in building NJ and more in the form of damages. Ironically, this is the kindest thing they would probably do. The worst one would be to keep them in their basement until their contract expires. Most likely, they'll make an example out of NJ so that other groups won't do the same thing.
I'm old and I've been working for so long and when it comes to office dramas like this, it's better to keep your mouth shut and speak only in black and white in a paper vetted by your lawyer. Less words, less mistakes. Like cops say, "anything you say will and can be used against you in a court of law." I get it that they're scared of their future but with this statement, they just tied themselves to MHJ. Now, HYBE would be compelled to reassess if NJ is still a company asset or a liability and act accordingly. With their hostile stance against HYBE, the latter's response will not be in their favor. They just gave HYBE a justification for reducing their activities as they don't want to work without MHJ. More, HYBE won't be so stupid as to invest money for a NJ comeback knowing fully well that NJ no longer wants to work with HYBE (which to the members' minds is an inhumane company) and would go to MHJ one way or another.
I predict that NJ's next step would be to terminate their contract with ADOR. That's what the 15-day ultimatum was for. As a business entity, HYBE will not let them off scot-free financial wise.
Silenced and sidelined. NewJeans was their BEST girl group since GFRIEND and well, history repeats itself. Much prayers of encouragement to the young ladies as they endlessly wait till something happens.
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Silenced? More like too much freedom of speech. Not a day goes by without them crying and making a fuss. "oh ceo MHJ we LOVE you" "oh CEO MHj it's only cuz of you we got this award" "oh I'm devastated that hybe dismissed CEO MHJ" "oh we miss CEO MHJ" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ironically, HYBE disbanded GFRIEND and took the resources from Source to create ADOR and NewJeans. It's HYBE's own karma, and unfortunately the girls are the victims of the fallout.
They're more tbh. I would say they are the most successful since Blackpink or domestically in Korea even since Girls' Generation. Would hate to see them fail because of this HYBE situation.
@@spectral__You do know that was mhj’s doing right?
Think of it as a messy divorce. Mom coddled the kids and Dad only saw them as money makers. But since the kids sided with Mom, Dad took Mom’s power and wants to take control of the kids. Dad is punishing the kids. Mom is making the kids dependent on her. Either way, the victims in this are the kids who got taken advantage of. Better to find a new Mom and Dad than to chase after parents that use them to get back at the other.
That is what i thinking no site is better than the other. I don't know why fans allways try to show their site is innocent, when both sites clearly aren't.
But every kpop company wants money. this is just a business. kpop groups are just products. Most of the kpop groups don't have freedom for artistic purposes like western artists. their songs, music choreo and even the way to talk is programmed and given to them. like in YG, BP mentioned that everything was given to them they just had to sing the lyrics. But HYBE allows artist to contribute in production, composition and everything. But at the end of the day, they are a business too. they won't let a group they have invested a lot go like this. MHJ stole the girls from SOURCE too. But now MHJ will have to go even if she like it or not. Hope NJ will get a better producer and continue to make good music
@@Usery5439 I think you should hear both sites and you will see MHJ isn't as bad as you think of her and Hybe isn't as good as you think of them. MHJ can't steal the girls. That isn't possible with someone agreeing to give her the girls.
I don't say MHJ is innocent, but she is the one making NJ good music as she does in SM.
@@BobJackJillZorroKoshekZuko think of it as dad blindly supporting his kids believing he has a partner in mom who is working with him for the success of the kids only to find mom has colluded with the kids for their own benefit in the hopes of cutting dad out completely and taking the kids and money for herself.
@@sayurioffenborn4960 MHJ is neither a composer nor a producer. She is a CEO.
Most bunnies aren't old enough to decide what they are going to be eating for supper tonight, and it's not like NJ has been around long enough for them to have any real die hard fans, they've been on the scene barely 2 years now. They really don't have much skin in this game, and I highly doubt Min Hee Jin will back them with her own money. HYBE will be fine, this is merely a scratch to them, hardly a death blow. Oh, and you did know that Ador is a HYBE construct? The talent, the people, the money that New Jeans has been grazing on is 100% HYBE, not the loser MHJ, but HYBE.
Facts 💯
Exactly
If the girls could please stop enabling that woman it would be great for all parties. She's currently being accused of covering up sexual harassment and bullying, people are literally cyberbullying the victim for daring to sue their beloved CEO. The girls need to understand that they're indirectly hurting the victims with their unerring support.
With all of these drama I remembered my aunts word that if someone is being nice to you that doesn’t mean that he or she is a good person i hope the girls will understand this and focus on their career rather than being involved in adults business because all are selfish
Hybe should let them go to see how they are doing. We will see if MHJ really can handle it all together. I think NewJeans quick success made MHJ and the girls think that they would do just fine. That got the best of them thinking their success and hard work will be enough. I don't minimize the girls and MHJ hard work but I think HYBE management and network played a big role in it. It's the balance of it all who make their success so big. I think HYBE should let them go and make things on their own to see if it works. I don't think the girls taking side so pubicly on this is a good move for them. MHJ and HYBE will be fine on their own but I don't think the girls career will make it. We all knew that the industry rules aren't black or white so they shouldn't let their emotion lead their future like that. This fight is mostly between MHJ ego and HYBE ego. The girls won't won that fight they don't have enough knowledge , maturity or experience to take side on this one. HYBE will debut a new group or transfer the investment to another existing group and MHJ already have a career on her own but the girl will loose their dream and don't have enough network to make it on their own without HYBE or MHJ network so I hope the girls won't put their ego first and destroyed their own career.
what i dont understand is why they are so concerened about mhj this badly. they are teenagers. no young person needs to be there for an adult during hard times. mhj has brainwashed these poor girls.
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes?
but if mhj is grooming them then bsh is exploiting lsfm
@@meghasingh-c1f so you'd rather support a groomer? all kpop groups have been exploited once in their lifetime, its the nature of these fuckass companies. we tell them all the time to treat the artists well but theyre money hungry. yet you rarely see a group that leeches off their CEO like newjeans does, especially this early on in their career. sure! they could just be respecting mhj as an elder in SK blahblah but what other group that has went crying to their ceo in support of HER own hard adult decisions. its ridiculous to me. again sure, maybe we dont know things behind the scenes but still. knowing mhj's past with minors and her time in SM it leaves a horrible feeling in my stomach every time i hear about newjeans. if mhj knew hybe would want to ruin the girls, she should have not have a baby fit about it. she should have quietly planned something out to get the girls out once their contract was finished or something. we should not be protecting predators/exploiters. we should be on the side of the poor kids that got mouth fed bullshit. "but newjeans are on mhjs side so?" but we are people with critical thinking skills that can clearly see that the girls comfort mhj too much considering their age gap and so on.
I rather the girls end their contract and go to another company that will put that coin into them knowing they would bring coins in . I can seebthem at jyp for music production or even sm due to their vocals and sm has good singers
It would cost them a lot money to end their contracts(they would also be sued) plus they couldn’t use the NJ name or perform the songs.
@@sweetnsaltybish4153 true but I can see kim Jung un I mean bang si 😅 holding them in the basement cause he know what would happen
8 years of kpop and ive never seen any idol that left their companies joining SM or JYPe
@@JEFF.4LVES yea cause they left them to go to others the two girls from le sserafim went to hybe, hyuna left jyp for cube and she left cube and then she left cube and went somewhere else
@@gramblingnite i mean "never saw any idol from another company joining "SM and JYP" specifically
Tbh, what Min did was SO inmature, and make the career of the girl worse, they were doing so well, and she was in charge but let her ambitions take over her
I think
They need to expose what she did for people
To Realize she got issues and they can trust other companies to Take care of the group
If MHJ really cared about the girls,she would have taken what ADOR had offered her. But all she is worried about is money,if she cared she would get back to work and get the girls back to work on their tours in 2025. Because the girls wanted MHJ to go back to work with them,ADOR offered that,MHJ is the one to turn it down. There is no way HYBE will let MHJ become CEO again.By the way folks are blaming HYBE for firing MHJ, WRONG; it was ADOR who fired her. That woman has done severe damage to the girls,and it shows, they are going to need professional help after all this.In fact who is responsible for them now,isn't it MHJ? Why isn't she doing her job instead of giving interviews and photo shoots?
I bet MHJ regrets leaving SM ...
Yeah for sure. She should have stayed or should’ve done something else. 🤷♀️
SM was far better than Hybe
@@mahabubajannathashi1199Girl are you new to k-pop or what sm is literally the worst company ever their own artists sued them they got sued by ever generation
@@mahabubajannathashi1199because it's too good... Many of SM's TOP artists have left.
@@bonelakiranmai4573 How they treated and worked with MHJ, she had more freedom and more work.
MHJ rly fkd up the lives of the poor girls. at this point njs disbanding isn't so bad anymore. there's just so much issues going around and knowing the girls and company have hostile history i just find it more harmful for the girls to keep on staying. the girls should just continue living life peacefully, finish school then get a job or if they still want to continue with entertainment then they should transfer to another company
I really hope they don't dispand they have came a long way
There’s a reason why they keep aligning themselves with min hee Jin, she’s obviously been treating them well, they go on vacation regularly while releasing great musics, they are well rested, well paid, and really popular thanks to the shaman woman, I’d also align myself with her if I was them🤷🏽♀️ and then there’s hybe, overworks his talent, imagine lessarafim having 1 break for 8 days in 2 years, I’m also going to go out on a limb and say there are not paid as much as new jeans either, hybe is also threatening to put them on a 2 year hiatus at the peak of their popularity and the ceo of the company doesn’t like them at all, now “army’s” who would you pick in their shoes?
Thank you! I don’t understand why netizens are siding with a company who treats the girls so badly. Why wouldn’t NJ align themselves with someone who took them out of a bad situation, listens to their suggestions, and treats them fairly? Just because they are under contract with Hybe means they can’t speak out and should take all the mistreatment? make it make sense
@@Home-ok7vr it like everyone has decided for them which side they are supposed to side with and since it not the one they wanted they need to "think long and hard ", "stay quite ", "be professional"
@@thiaokeke oh god!!! You’re all so dumb!!! The artists belong to their label but HYBE and those girls are lucky to have what they do because HYBE did provide the princesses treatment they got, that did not earn it like all the others
@@Home-ok7vr It's only deluded international netizens who just think HYBE = BTS, so HYBE can't be an awful company. If they bothered to really listen to RM's new album, they'd know that's not true. Because clearly everything the company done isn't enough evidence for them. They really forget the awful conditions BTS, TXT, and GLAM suffered through. Rather, they weren't even fans at the time. They were in diapers. 🤣HYBE has NEVER been a good company, even when it was just Big Hit and not a conglomerate.
I thought BigHit was unlucky with girl groups... I guess the curse followed even after they changed the company's name lol
I guess it's the CEO and not the curse. Hybe is a patriarchal group. They only care about themselves anf look at women as pawns
I hope the ladies of NewJeans are ok! That would be sad if they were hurt by this
I am glad finally you cover this
It was reported that new jeans earned before they reach 1 year. If they have been frugal, they could buy back their contract and resign if they think hybe mistreated them. They could also not signed the contract in the first place if the issue arise before their debut. My issue is other groups are dragged in this issue between hybe and mhj. some groups are starting from nothing and now being dragged by this fued.
They should be able to work with any ceo , if they are good artist.
Fans feel bad about them not getting the attention they want but what they don't realize that NJs only want the *good part* of being the kpop idol. If you're in that kind of industry and issues like that break you, you'll never succeed.
It's really hard to feel bad for them if they have better living conditions than most of the fans and yet fans still give them money. Spend your money on more productive purpose.
only people I care about this is NJ. hope they stay together and find a better label should MHJ and Hybe go full-on wacko on them.
From day 1 hybe had no problem to keep new jeans, their been was with mhj. The question is where NJ wants to stay or not.
Thank you for keeping us updated on all things going on.
With fake info*
you cannot tell me mhj didn't groom them, I mean she literally was investigated for SA and it was confirmed that she was talking bad about the girls but they still support her
I just hope that NJ will stop speaking about the issue until their contracts expire. This is all MHJ’s doing by going to the press and name dropping other groups. If she just waited for the contract to expire and separated from Hybe in a legal way this wouldn’t happen.
Hybe started it all and it clearly shows how little they care about the girls
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 afaik MHJ was caught trying to take over ADOR ILEGALLY. How is that hybe’s fault?
Watch the whole press conference!
To be clear, MHJ started this fight, now she's crying foul because she didn't anticipate this outcome. Please stop giving MHJ grace because she deserves none. MHJ is a flawed individual and she does not care about NJ. I'm confused why NJ and their parents still trust her after the terrible things she said about them as individuals and their work ethic. Also MHJ did not assemble NJ. They were already picked and working under a different label at Hybe. It was Hybe's reputation & money that got NJ 3mil and brand deals as a new group. It was Hybe that bent over backwards and gave MHJ everything she asked for (unclear why). But both NJ & MHJ had deals no other label had. It was a bad idea for MHJ to have so much control over Ador in the first place. Hybe is not the devil and appear to be running the company pretty well. No one's perfect, but no one had issues w/Hybe until MHJ came along. Also, I'd like to see what evidence MHJ has to fight her current situation in court, because I'm sure Hybe has their receipts. Stop treating NJ like they're little clueless puppies. They're not to innocent to speak ill of HYBE & take MHJ side. They have family and attorneys that should be looking out for them. MHJ sue isn't. Thanks!
Hybe started it LOL. Wake up
@@MinSeokSong-f8d MHJ is the one who made it public and dragged the girls into it. Hybe contacted her privately to speak with her about what shes been doing behind their backs as far as money, because they are the ones who fund all the sub lables.
@@MinSeokSong-f8d Not sure where you're coming from but this is MHJ mess. She put her crap on front street so she could get the sympathetic vote, but she's just pathetic. Receipts: She put all her schemes in emails, she talked bad about NJ in her emails, she talked about Hybe in her emails, she discussed things with her
shaman in her emails, then she told untruths about her emails or tried to pass it off as just joking. She even had bad things to say about her EE who was being sexually harassed. Look I'm all for girl power except when they're messy entitled females. No need going back/forth because clearly you're team MHJ. But really...
I genuinely hope that New jeans dont have late comebacks or lacky songs or even disbandment
Between this, LE SSERAFIM, and the horrible portrayal of Manon Lara and Sophia I’m guessing if HYBE doesn’t do something right soon they will start to decline in popularity for self sabotage. Like they really don’t know how to handle situations at all. And as of late it’s more negative things being said than positive. Which is unfortunate for the idols under their labels. Because they are all so talented working under an idiot.
Idiot is definitely the right word
Actually people overseas can see right through mhj manipulation and lies and can’t believe how gullible some Koreans are to believe her. Those supporting mhj are seen as fools that are easily manipulated. The fact alone how she chose to involve nj in this fight shows her incompetence to be a real leader.
100%
Unfortunately as long as they have Bts in Hybe nothing will ever happen to Hybe
And why something bad has to happen to Hybe? It is a conglomerate with business in mind, Miss Min started the dirty fight, by asking and demanding all resources for NJ, and breaching the trust by looking outside to achieve what she wanted. Hybe just closed the tap and she went public with the drama act...no sympathy for her. And really i pity the girls, but won't miss them in case things won't work out for them. Le Sseraphim had a great comeback and other girl group are emerging. Source music just opened a new audition. I wish Hybe all the best. @_arlinda
If changing ceo's affects this group so much, they won't survive.
MHJ is being accused of serious crimes, including allowing sexual harassment in the workplace. She acts with malice and has no remorse. NJ need to distance themselves from her otherwise they may be dragged down with her.
I don't listen to their music, but thanks to BTS I have a list of Kpop groups I want to listen to and they are on it - I just haven't gotten round to them. I feel terrible about not giving them a shot, but I am not sure I want to listen to their music anymore and have taken them off the list. Unfortunately, it is the same with NCT after this drama with their fans targeting Yoongi who is one of my favourites as his music really inspires me.
I feel bad for them if they are disbanded due to their association with MHJ, but I cannot support anyone who turns a blind eye and allows questionable acts to happen, then defend the person perpetrating it.
I'd rather stan BTS with their positive messages and encouragement!
Agree
Real😭😭💜
Nwjns music is soo good and i would have stanned tgem along with illit and BTS if it weren't for them supoorting MHJ
ya'll letting BTS control your lives, Self-discernment is a luxury for ya'll, good luck out in the real world
@@henrysdoorhandle you’re fake activism isn’t welcomed , please 🙏 mind your own business 😂
@@DDH-q9j called you out with that one eh? 😂 also it’s *your*
They are victims of grooming of course they will defend her! We shouldnt blame them
These are literal repercussions for her trying to stage a coup. She was bad-mouthing other groups under the same corp umbrella for months - leaking their idols info.
It is CRAZY to me that any of you think this is unfair. If it was in the States, girlie would be sitting in a white collar jail for years to come.
Yes, there are idols involved, but this is business. And she was NOT thinking about her beloved NJ's career when she did all this underhanded stuff. She was thinking about her own, and how greedy she is.
She groomed those girls to feel like she's one of them and is perfectly content to let them ruin their chances of moving on from this by constantly bringing her up.
She's gotten off easy.
If you do not understand the overall stories, don't be stupid to leave such comment. Hybe started all this, they have been neglecting Newjeans since before debut. There is no grooming here. If it was grooming, other producers, directors, even news articles such as Ilgan sports wouldn't have released statement that was against Hybe. BSH tried to snatch Apple deals away from Newjeans for LSF and Apple rejected it. He also tried to steal Louis Vuiton from Newjeans.
Also, the one that is leaking private and medical information of idols right now is Hybe. If you even have a brain to think about it, it's as clear as day that Hybe has the highest probability of doing so, compared to MHJ herself. Stop being full of yourself thinking you have any idea what's going on exactly.
Hybe isn't any better.
@@sayurioffenborn4960 what does Hybe do that makes you think they are evil?
Agreed
@@nycjt6267 Where should i start. I am a 2nd gene KPOP fan. And Hybe on top of doing what other labels do what i don't like, Gfriend was one of the first things that let me struggel. Yes they do good things and i don't want to deny that. But since they are Hybe the negative goes over the positive for me. As Hybe only see the money and that performence is importent, they overlook the groundwork. And that hurt their idols.
Oh now they are speaking out cause they love their ceo soo much. Where were they when she was talking shit about illit and other grp. Seriously ppl who support witch like min hee jin are at fault themselves idc if they are minor or not.
I bet they were giggling in their dorms when MHJ was badmouthing those other groups cuz they AGREE with her. They are just like her
Go watch th fking press conference. If you don't speak Korean find an actually good translation of the WHOLE THING not just things taken out of context. She never talked shit about other groups or their members, only mentioning them in the context of how HYBE capitalized on NJ to promote them.
@@ike7484 And she didn't?? Fucker they are on the same label the main purpose is to promote one grp ofc hybe will benefit from it every label does but claiming that it's worng of them to do that when she herself pushed the 'bts sister' propaganda is Hippocratic on it's own.
Mybe learn korean n go watch the clips again coz she never insulted them she just brought them up n how hybe copied her ideas to make them.... did she ever said that the girl's were talentless?
MHJ has them convinced they can't succeed on their own merit.
How sad is that.
A good "parent" would encourage them to fly and love them from afar.
It has always been about MHJ's ego and what SHE wants.
She spent ten months setting up her label and consulting the shaman for it, instead of coming up with a marketing strategy for the girls. A strategy that she insisted on and was the whole reason she was allowed to go do her own thing.
She delayed NJs debut and then blamed everyone else with it. When in reality she was playing woo-woo with her shaman so she could "gobble up" HYBE. The *shaman* reminded her to take the girls, too. Because that would lead to bigger profits.
She isolated the girls on purpose and started her insidious strategy from day one.
She's like the fake mom in Rapunzel -- she loved the power, not the girl.
Sad that happened to hanni, but after what mhj did in the press conf to other idols, especially such comments about chaewon, sakura and leaking private info about other artists...what did they expect by supporting mhj. This live on top of it just made me unfollow them...i mean the way they demand things even though mhj is problematic, they better pray to god BTS is nowhere effected by this leaks, otherwise forget disbandment... ARMYs are coming for them.
I feel the same way about them demanding things. I mean, if they had requested that Mhj be brought back that woulf be fine, but them demanding it and a deadline? I find that just disrespectful. I guess well know Hybe's answer tomorrow.
After listening to all of this and NJ’s live before it was took down…… NJs do what you gotta do!
I feel so bad for new jeans.. 🙁
Why is this channel so late in this news it's 5 days behind 😂
For those who are Worrying, Its better if New jeans disband or End contract With Hybe / ador and Go together To anathor company, Alreday we known Jype and Yge and sm enetertainment Allow Them To Enter into Their comapny Cuz We know the hype of new jeans but If They Leav hybe They have to change The name 😢that is The only Loss For us , i Hope They would Move to other company Or the issues Will Be solven By someone, Lets hop For New jeans good 😢
@@2008max oh man , not just name , they even need to pay big amount of money to cancel contract . 😉
Yes Hybe is the worst, it’s better for our girls to leave, bunnies will support them regardless
Yes please leave Hybe ungrateful spoiled brats😂
do u think companies would want a group that went against their label? especially if mhj tags along with nj to this new company? yall need to be fr and understand that a big part of nj success was because they were part of hybe. they were popular before they even debuted. all those resources were given to them by hybe. idk what mhj agenda is but the girls need to look at whats best for them. the penalty for cancelling contracts isnt less
@@mahabubajannathashi1199Please do you people have no idea this should be interesting and entertaining
If there is ever another come back from New Jeans it will not be for a very long time. Now that they have sided openly with MHJ and have given Hybe an ultimatum, the members may be sued if they carry out their threat.
Hybe did her dirty
If they want to go, GO!!! But without the New Jeans name. At some point, you have to be smart and think with your own brain.
Not taking anyones side but nwjns are too much dependent on their ex ceo
Afraid of the change they behave like this and give company ultimatums is definitely a bad move.
I hope they continue to make good music and dont believe that one person can make or break them
Low quality CD’s certainly unacceptable!
The quality of a CD always being non other than WAV format!
If the CD it’s MP3 format, no hell no!
For those who say that hybe is bad with girls bands, I remind you that you were pressuring hybe to release a girls band when in the past there was a girl band that almost bankrupted hybe and that's why hybe didn't want to make more girl bands for the same reason
Lmao like a couple of fans pressuring hybe will make a difference in their decision making 😂😂
It’s funny, fiftyfifty who’s arguably at the bottom starting over has gone thru crazy drama and new jeans who is arguably at the top also goes thru some crazy drama . Shows you that this industry is just crazy no matter who you are. All I want is to listen to good music , no matter who makes it but this industry is so toxic both from insiders and gross netizens . It’s really disheartening and it’s so big that unfortunately the bubble will eventually pop.
The most problematic thing is girls supporting minheejin even when she is CONFIRMED of doing shaman things on BTS .When she was badmouthing other girl groups same age as new jeans without worrying about their mental health,because of all this drama lessarafim faced somuch hate .What about that ?.Those who support these girl even after knowing that they support min heejin Im dumbfounded.if someone would have done those shaman activities on your favourite girl group.HOw have it felt?.I loved new jeans their collab with BTS but now I hope they dont even stand close to BTS or lessarafim,illit those girls basically supported a bully to protect themselves from another bully.I have no grudge against these girls but I will never support them or their music again.
Hmmm.... I think I should try and buy their album just in case it later becomes unavailable.
HR Specialist say less. They're screwed.
to be honest, their reputation took a big hit with this. this thing will always hang above the members heads now… they‘ll go hand in hand with this company mess and it’s sad to see. they also don’t help themselves and their situation by inserting themselves this intensely
I am an Army, and I won't hide it. I truly support the new directors of Ador. If the new directors are to protect NJs IP and their work, what's wrong with that?. Instead of hating on Hybe and Ador, let's look to the positive side that Ador wants to protect and direct NJs if they want to grow as artists. Them using emotions and hatred towards Hybe, and the NM won't be good for their future. I know everyone wants NJ to grow, so let NJs and the fans support the artists themselves instead of being divided. We know all these articles we see are displayed just to receive public sympathy and public opinion for spreading hatred to the NM of Ador and Hybe. Fans of NJs you need to think of the artists themselves instead of putting all the support on MHJ.
I feel bad for a lot of kpop idols with things like this! They have so little control of their careers but take so much of the blame and backlash
NewJeans without MHJ will thrive and continue to be successful
If Hybe let them and i don't think they will do that. NJ will be the next Gfriend.
Hybe will destroy them, anything is good for NewJeans but Hybe
Sorry, hater, she's still with them. As their producer and creative director. She's not going anywhere, loser
@@sayurioffenborn4960 then its okay,let them face the consequences of their actions
@@SoftieMokathey didn't do anything weirdo
it seems to me they are well rehearse for this, the only thing they want is MHJ back, this woman is using them, she didn't really care about them.
People start hating the girlls because they support minhee jin like the girls support her for a reasone right ?? So why don't we just accept the reality like it's their choice to choose between minhee jin and hybe and they want minhee jin cause she was the one who was there for them at their hard time she is their 2nd mother for them hybe was mistreating them i am sorry to say that but Newjeans are better with old ador staff member and minhee jin
Exactly
Hybe was mistreating NJ?
She is not their mother, she is their boss!
I get it. They have good reason to support her. Girlies support her cuz girlies are just like her 😂. Like how she thinks it's ok to cover up SA of ex ador employee, like how she had naked pics of underage girls in her bedroom, like how she bad mouthed other girl groups, like how she supports coca cola, like how she plagiarized mexican gg JEANS and Japanese gg SPEED, like how she bodyshamed the members behind their backs. They be like mean girls gang skrt skrt 🤟
Yeah that must suck for the girls.....16th floor office , multi-million dollar dorm , Phoning app, hybe's connections/resources..............
MHJ and NJ fans were the one responsible for NJ downfall.......They says NJ is more popular than hybe and do things without them.....And other side they say NJ wants MHJ........i mean stand on what you say hypocrites
I can't with MHJ , NJ and all their supporters acting like Ador is theirs...😅🤣🤣🤣.....Management changes all the time and with the stunts MHJ pulled yall expect Hybe to not get her inline??....Coming Nov 1...will she even be in a job at Ador?? And NJ are playing in uncharted waters....they have no idea that no matter how the public loves them or what not....they wouldn't be the first loved of popular group to get dismantle and become irrelevant if they continue messes with Hybe with this bratty behavior.....they should stay out of MHJ and Hybe legal battles if the want to survive in the company to even see a world tour....
Yeah, right, they are supporting the woman who supported sexual aasualter, not the victim and who fatshamed the group and called them brainless and said that without her newjeans would be nothing without her and I am just shocked that how can the girls support them and the bunnies .
@@loveujin585it's amazing what manipulation and money can do....lol....It's like a husband who is a terrible person....narcissist, abuser, psychopath, personality disorder, liar....but financially supports the wife....so in everyone's eyes...as long as he's supporting her financially to live well....all other problems isn't important and in denial of everything else....that's how MHJ is with NJ and how most of their fans support esp...MHJ....they ignore everything else and remain in denial..lol
@multistan9582 yeah right I am just fed up with this drama because of this drama many hybe artists have faced so much hate. i am just tired of this drama, right now.
agree
@@multistan9582 It isn't only MHJ Hybe isn't any better or NJ wouldn't site with MHJ. Hybe have cut Gfriend and they will do the same with NJ. I hope for the girls that they find a way out of this.
NewJean needs to ask themselves ..... where are we going to come up with the money??? Without ADOR and HYBE these girls are broke!
I mean, whether they like HYBE or not, the best thing for NJ's career is to continue staying with the company. HYBE is a HUGE company that has connections all over the world. You go against that and you lose all those connections, not to mention the possibility of being blacklisted in BOTH Korea and the western industry.
Like just take a look at all the SM idols who sued SME, they're nowhere to be found in the Korean entertainment industry because they're blacklisted. What more if it's a bigger company like HYBE? Not only will they be blacklisted in Korea but also the US.
The girls need to be smart about this.
so what. there is life after any company, there is life also outside this band. if hybe does not care, why should they care about hybe?
@@strigoiu13Who said that Hybe does not care? Min supporters says that...NJ can survive without Min, if they want it.
new jeans are creating more enemies within hybe even with ador new ceo and new employees with still publicly siding min heejin. just being unprofessional
@@strigoiu13 don’t forget it was mhj and nj that plotted to ruin hybe after hybe spent millions on their training and care and promotion!
Nj were given extravagant perks from day one other hybe groups didn’t get! Never once did they ever thank hybe for their generosity instead going out of their way to dis hybe at award shows but thanking mhj only. Selfish behaviour on nj part and they continue to disrespect hybe showing how shallow and disgusting they are with their spoiled behaviour! I hope they pay for their selfishness and disappear from the music scene.
They're literal kids. And just because other idols get mistreated, doesn't mean they should too. If a SVT member breaks their legs, does that mean another idol has to just for you to sympathize with them?
NJs already worked hard, even when their youngest member was a literal freaking CHILD.
A child works harder than you. And you wish them mistreatment and bad health? Because you want to support a company than a human being? 🤨
@@ashantythegreat3231 they are not children. They made the conscious decision to get involved in this dispute. They had everything handed to them on levels no other hybe artist received yet they never thanked hybe for the priviledges and immense opportunities given them. Hybe provided them with top makeup, hair, luxury house, money and access to their vast contacts and paid for their videos and training Mhj paid for very little for them and they continually chose to publically thank her and her alone in public settings. Their disloyalty to the company that made their success possible shows how selfish and of poor character they are. They are old enough to know whats going on, chose to bite the hand that feeds them and supported the woman that throws them under the bus! Nj has talent but their image is forever tarnished due to their selfishness and poor character!!
mhj is actually very cunning and smart. she babied them so much and make sure they feel like their success is thx to her and the girlies only, no hybe/bts privilege, even saying their cameo on ptd mv is a “forced” thing instead of being thankful to get exposure
@@startrilogy Exactly. NJs be giving their fans and staff all gratitude. Just because they don't thank a company that doesn't even care about them doesn't make them ungrateful. They thank those who help them, not those random people ask them for respect when that company doesn't respect NJs at all.
@@startrilogy can you find one episode anywhere where nj thanked hybe?
The fear that new jeans packaging will become excessive using seventeen as an example is unfair considering NJs double single had 9 versions. For a 5 member group, that is excessive at the least. No other group has had a MV for every single they release. No one has that budget, not even BTS, the real money makers. This fear of NJ not being able to do what they want is ill founded. No company has unlimited resources and its unfair to continue working like you do. I feel bad for all other groups in hybe who dont have the resources ador is using and still bring in alot of money or have put in alot of years of work.
I mean think about it. There was a reason why she was fired from SM as well. MHJ doesn’t have a good track record.
In the end, from all the conflicts that have occurred, the ones who end up as victims are the artists themselves. Hopefully, there will be a resolution for them 😥
New Jeans is the most profitable group under the larger HYBE umbrella. It makes no financial sense at all to sink them. For that reason, I believe (or at least I hope) they will come back stronger from this. For now, all the uncertainty is hard on the group members and the fans. As the old saying goes: "if you find yourself going through Hell, keep going."
No the most profitable is bts and the members lol. You mean ador umbrella right?
@@yomarysanchez6263 Well NewJeans are currently cause BTS are at the military and nothing is much going on. Anyways, hope that the boys returns soon
@@yomarysanchez6263 Meant girl group "under the HYBE umbrella (which includes ador) recently" but I didn't feel like getting that pedantic about it. There are of course extremely anal-retentive K-pop fans who won't accept anything less than absolute precision in any statement.
@@JohnSmith762A11Ba group brings in income if they have a hit song, especially for a rookie group
@@JohnSmith762A11B actually nj is the fourth group under hybe as far as producing revenue for the company.
Hybe isn't a saint. They can't even promote BTS like Jin ever since he got out from military
New jeans is finally free from that witch
Hybe isn't any better.
Dude, anything is good for NewJeans except Hybe 😂
@@sayurioffenborn4960seriously her past is wild bro hybe is far better than mhj
BRUH NOW BANG SI HYUK WILL KILL NEW JEANA
@@bonelakiranmai4573 I know MHJ since i am an long time KPOP fan and know her from SM times. Both are worse. The girls are better of without both of them. Hybe isn't any better then MHJ. (Gfriend, Le serafim's lost member and Pop star academy to only name a few things.)
i trust and believe in a newjeans without mhj
Their music videos should be on NJ’s channel, it doesn’t make sense that their videos be on this director’s channel. The content doesn’t belong to him. 100% agree with the company on that decision. And HYBE/Adore should disband NJ especially if they cannot move on from this mess.
hoping for the best
I wish the girls could leave Hybe and start again under another label...this must be so distressing for them and Hybe wont let them succeed now.
They can actually leave hybe by voluntarily leaving within the contract given that they need to pay $732 million dollars and leave all the copyright music to hybe.
@@FiveFeepDeet 732 million dollars please 💀
@@Alice074p7 numbers came from the estimate of MHJ herself through her Kakao texts lol
@@FiveFeepDeet That's unattainable...they are chained to Hybe now until their contract is up.
@@Alice074p7 that’s the amount MHJ said on her Kakao texts lol
The power ploy in this situation is so messy and dark. Let's not down play the fact that MHJ might hindered NewJeans relationships with other HYPE groups by implicating them in the lawsuit which was negative towards their own hardwork and credibility they've built for themselves like a BTS. Saying they copied her themes and ideas while the group is 10+years old while NewJeans is considered to be fairly new in the industry. She down right sabotaged tue girls and then following and supporting her blindly is affecting them actively in their careers.
Kookliet I hope u are ready to get sue for spreading lies against suga. Why u deleted the video. Ur jobless behaviour doesn’t have courage to hold the video anymore
This
Don’t worry…lots of us took screenshots and sent them to bighit 🤣🤣
Wait they spread lies about Suga?? Wow so who's to say everything else they post is credible?
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Is a company problem why they still defending mnj when she say she care the grup but she don’t want to come back if she is not the CEO and more mony🤦🏻♀️
i dont understand what's hybe's problem they're determined to ruin all the groups
BC Bang PD is jealous. His label is flopping so he doesn't want NJ to make it
@@Fearless.cat1209 really? a CEO and a businessman who cares about money wouldn't be jealous.
@@PriAtama-x1iThat’s the thing. He cares about money
Not the groups
@@Fearless.cat1209big hit make the most money for hybe out of all sub label under hybe
MHJ destroyed NJ and badmouth all the groups from HYBE. So how this is Hybe problem. They try to protect they groups and don’t involve the groups in this mess. But MHJ didn’t care and involved the girls, sad but NJ are destroyed because of their and MHJ actions.
newjeans disbanding would not be a smart move. not only are they the most successful girlgroup under hybe which means they would take a big financial hit disbanding them, but doing so could make the public so upset with hybe that it’ll backfire on the rest of hybe groups. not to mention stockholders who help invest in these groups wouldn’t be super happy seeing all that hardwork and money go down the drain bc of internal conflicts that were not handle properly. disbandment would make the public furious, make hybe look unprofessional and incapable of managing groups, have investors back out bc of that, and potentially having the backlash released on their other groups. it’d be an insane decision to make.
Hybe will never disband them they will make as much money out of them as possible
Except that hybe ss one of the big three and don't need newjeans. They have bts, enhypen, txt, le sserafim and seventeen. I would say that new jeans would be a minor loss at most considering how many other extremely popular groups they have.
I really don't understand why the NJ members are like the brave puppies of MHJ like always thank her everywhere and stay on her side, when she's not even a good person that'd be worth of staying on side with... they're literally damaging themselves at this point!
Without MHJ I don't think they'd be this big.
There are so many ggs but new jeans have made a mark. How many of us remember Weki Meki or Cherry Bullet or Purple Kiss or BerryGood etc
Who are you to say she's not a good person? Do you know her? Did you talk with the girls? So you agree that really nasty old man can manage woman in the industry without facing consequences of their inhumane behavior but y'all still claiming they know better? It's like your laughing at the suffering of Korean woman. Do and be better, please.
If they do this there musst be a reason. MHJ isn't innocent, but i think she was for the girls a savior with all that happened at that time. And Hybe isn't better than her.
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@@bpatcweredabomb2076 hmmm maybe MHJ was responsible for their MAJOR success but they would've become really big either way since they're under hybe and every group of that company gets really popular since they have that company name behind them... so they should rather thank hybe for their name instead of MHJ
It's so messy. But what can you expect.