I'm an archery hunter through and through so I've never really thought too much about rifle hunting or long distance rifle hunting for that matter! To be honest every shot I take with my bow is as close as possible, calculated, and done with respect for the animal and of all the conditions surrounding that moment. It is something I hold in high regard and to me is sacred, if you will. I have never really had much respect for someone who shoots an animal from a mountain side away or two+ mountain sides away!? Because that's not how I do it. But after listening to you guys and really considering all your points, and the work that goes into that type of shooting, I can honestly say I respect it and will defend it the same way I defend how I hunt! I'm ashamed at how fast I jumped to negativity and judgement of something I knew nothing about!? Which has knocked me off my horse, I'm kind of beside myself at how quick I was to one sidedly cast my vote of "unethical" on anything I personally wouldn't do, or had little interest in doing! Awesome conversation! Great info! Now that I understand it just a touch more who knows I might consider a long range rifle hunt someday!? Thanks for all you guys do and stand for! And thanks for the needed call out.
5 yards in a ground blind, had a buck in front of me he was looking at the blind but I thought "its 5 freaking yards no way he can duck the arrow". Now i'm shooting a recurve but still. I shoot and its like slo mo....I see the ball of yellow feathers with brown in the background then all of the sudden its BLUE BACKGROUND from the sky! that sucker did the exact same thing as that blacktail.. belly hit the ground. Clean miss. I'll never forget it.
Good to get some perspective on this. The time from release to impact regardless of distance is an interesting concept that is extremely helpful, as is the concept that heavy arrows makes a quieter bow. Might've helped me on my last elk, he was alert and looking at me, quartering away at 30 yards. He spun out of the shot. Instead of his tail, I have an arrow in the tree that was behind him (and Brian, why isn't that tail prominently displayed behind you). Aron's story of the guys at the range who are looking for arrows behind the 20 yard bale giving him hell got me to thinking: It seems like the most pertinent number should be the percentage of arrows you can hit in the kill zone at a given distance. Once you're comfortable with that, the conditions at the heat of the moment should dictate whether or not you take the shot.
@Aaron Snyder leaving the rack ? I must say wow RESPECT I'm not sure if I could do that this is only my second year hunting but I give you props for being real 100% I appreciate it.
I'm an archery hunter through and through so I've never really thought too much about rifle hunting or long distance rifle hunting for that matter! To be honest every shot I take with my bow is as close as possible, calculated, and done with respect for the animal and of all the conditions surrounding that moment. It is something I hold in high regard and to me is sacred, if you will. I have never really had much respect for someone who shoots an animal from a mountain side away or two+ mountain sides away!? Because that's not how I do it. But after listening to you guys and really considering all your points, and the work that goes into that type of shooting, I can honestly say I respect it and will defend it the same way I defend how I hunt! I'm ashamed at how fast I jumped to negativity and judgement of something I knew nothing about!? Which has knocked me off my horse, I'm kind of beside myself at how quick I was to one sidedly cast my vote of "unethical" on anything I personally wouldn't do, or had little interest in doing! Awesome conversation! Great info! Now that I understand it just a touch more who knows I might consider a long range rifle hunt someday!? Thanks for all you guys do and stand for! And thanks for the needed call out.
5 yards in a ground blind, had a buck in front of me he was looking at the blind but I thought "its 5 freaking yards no way he can duck the arrow". Now i'm shooting a recurve but still. I shoot and its like slo mo....I see the ball of yellow feathers with brown in the background then all of the sudden its BLUE BACKGROUND from the sky! that sucker did the exact same thing as that blacktail.. belly hit the ground. Clean miss. I'll never forget it.
Good to get some perspective on this.
The time from release to impact regardless of distance is an interesting concept that is extremely helpful, as is the concept that heavy arrows makes a quieter bow. Might've helped me on my last elk, he was alert and looking at me, quartering away at 30 yards. He spun out of the shot. Instead of his tail, I have an arrow in the tree that was behind him (and Brian, why isn't that tail prominently displayed behind you).
Aron's story of the guys at the range who are looking for arrows behind the 20 yard bale giving him hell got me to thinking: It seems like the most pertinent number should be the percentage of arrows you can hit in the kill zone at a given distance. Once you're comfortable with that, the conditions at the heat of the moment should dictate whether or not you take the shot.
spot on topic guys I would very much like to get Arron out on the Oregon desert to hunt Mule deer.
..."have i got a tale to tell you .." haha
@Aaron Snyder leaving the rack ? I must say wow RESPECT I'm not sure if I could do that this is only my second year hunting but I give you props for being real 100% I appreciate it.
How about you know your personal limit. Just because you cant do it does not mean some one else cant.
When you can not, it's unethical.