Your take is spot on, mate. Back Ange, he has shown that the team is able to win big matches. We just need more consistency, which comes from quality squad depth reinforcements (i.e. transfers or through the Spurs youth academy) and not sacking the coach. Spurs were arguably after Arne Slot and Postecolglou last year, so it seems that our taste in managers is quite good. One possibility is that we may have reached the maximum state from the current club owners. There are rumours that Tottenham is looking to sell 20-30% of the club to a new rich investor, in order to allow future growth of the club :)
Definitely Ange in. There's no point in being over-reactionary/emotional. This was never gonna be a quick fix. And with this board, any manager would struggle lol. He's not perfect of course, but I rate Ange for actually sticking to his philosophy and trying to keep the vision consistent. This was the same 11 that played mid-week, and it's not even our strongest 11, so what did we really think would happen? The bigger picture will never really change until Spurs get new owners. Timo Werner off the bench just says it all man.
How many teams have had the fortitude to put 3 past a full strength Liverpool after being pumped for most of the game. ? Most struggle. Even when the chips were down,the lads kept it 100 and kept fighting. That is progress.
Who agreed to recruit these players? Why are we constantly getting injuries under Ange? Why are we playing Gray at CB instead of an actual CB in Dorrington? Why is there is no in-game management? Why are we taking off Maddison, the most productive player on the pitch? Ange is an amateur Sunday League manager.
Fun Game, disappointed but we have to look at a few things. - Liverpool is in form on top of the league. - Salah is consistently on fire - Son has been nowhere near his best. - Spurs depleted through injury running on empty. - we missed Mickey VDV at the back. Take liverpools back 3 out and they'd struggle. - if Spurs score the 4th it's a very different ending. - We never gave up. - The bounce of the ball was very much going Liverpools way. - fatigue - handed the ball over too many times. - We still put 3 goals on the best team in the world without our very best squad. Ange in - we never gave up.
Ange is 100% the guy to take us forward. Look how depleted we are and we're still only a handful of points off 4th. We've scored 12 goals in 3 games. We know what the problem is, it's recruitment. Spurs went too far into the "buying for the future" style. We need a couple more bodies in January and then a couple more in the summer and we'll be fine. Just ride this out. We got no cover and everyone is knackered but they're giving it everything. It's not like they've downed tools, that would be different. We know how good Angeball can be. Just keep the faith, it'll come good
You can discuss this until the cows come home. The simple fact is we don't have a quality squad and the club is being miss managed from the very top. We all know that. It's not something that's just happened, it goes way back. The whole club needs a complete shift. The one innocent person here is Ange. Yes the club will survive because it's being treated as an asset. A fantastic stadium without doubt. However you can have a Ferrari but it doesn't mean your a good driver. The solution is up to Levy. He really needs to take note of the motto 'to dare is to do'
I would say that most people that comment are feeling the need to vent, they are emotional because they want their team to win. Because of this the comments are often positive when we win and Ange out if we lose. I respect people who have been Ange never in, or maybe wanted him out mid season last year. But the waffling back and forth is just a sign of a persons emotional regulation. Ange out because you’re sad, and you want to vent. Not because it would make a difference, not because a better manager is waiting in the wings, just vent. But my favorite thing is how we still think we are a top 4 club, Man U fans are the same, denial. Sorry we aren’t a top four club. We are rebuilding. And Liverpool are the best team in Europe currently, I hoped we would win, but I didn’t expect to. If you expected to win, if you think we are a top four club, and Ange out because Liverpool beat us. Then you need to seriously step back and take stock.
I am not a Ange out but why keep playing the two or three players, which are just not good enough? Surely he and his team look back and see the mistakes these players are making
Well said mate. When I was a kid I would get upset with scorelines. I am now a middle aged man and do not get emotional over something I cannot control. Spurs are plagued with inquiries and up against the best team in the league. If we had a full squad the scoreline would have been different.
Tbh I wasn’t surprised nor am I disappointed, what a lot of people don’t seem to realise is this, if we’re City’s worst nightmare then Liverpool are ours. The pundits are wrong and anty Spurs, they formed this opinion of Spurs and make no allowance for our injuries, I’m right with you changing managers is not the answer, but changing the owners might be. Keep the faith mate and coys
I'm firmly Ange out. But not until the end of the season. Ange simply does not manage the game, the players and resources. He continues to play the same way, no matter what, this is a major flaw as other teams know exactly how you will play at ALL times. We have lots of muscle injuries, which could easily be accounted for by his style of football. He does not adapt his style to suit the players at his disposal. This is not 'management'. Horses for courses, no, he simply trots out the same style regardless of personnel and reduced player numbers.
Think most Spurs fans feel the same.. Spurs Norway FB voted: 300 votes Ange In, but needs backing 71% Ange out 8% Levy and Ange out 5% Levy out Ange in 16%
Zero rotation and zero game management from Ange this season. Losing to an in-form Liverpool is not a problem but he just wasted first team players another 90 minutes. Now the same players have to go again on 26th against NF and another game on 29th.
Sonny, you are right that Spurs need proper investment in players (like Liverpool did) but you are looking, mostly, in the wrong direction. The front five are exhausted. In Ange's system (Spurs, Celtic, Yokohama) the team defends from the front. The front five are the key to defending. Son, Kulu, Solanke, Maddison and Sarr are spent. Because there is no front five depth on the bench, they have had to play game after game. I'd love to see statistics on how many minutes the starting front five tonight have played across all games since the Man City win. I bet it's significantly higher than for LFC's front five or ManU from Thursday night. No Odobert, Moore, Richarlison & Bentancur, and a lack of Premier League ready transfers over the summer has left the squad running on fumes. I'm surprised they played as well as they did under the circumstances.
When we have depth and quality added to the team. It will help a lot of the players. Compare the 2 teams, we are not there yet. Cups are the focus, we are depleted. We can't win every game in all competitions.
There are too many injuries and we have a squad that lacks quality and experienced depth! You cannot build a squad at this level with four or five kids on the bench! You are right; Gray is playing in positions other than midfield. He is clearly not capable of playing them against the top teams. Shows every time we come up against quality teams. The backline has to be Udogie VDV Romero and Spence from now on. The team is still at least a few windows away from having a really good squad.
100% agree that the team lacks leaders. Seems like searching for Ange-ball players hasn't involved recruiting leaders. It was such a relief to see the back of Moan-rinho & C*nt-ay, but surely this is a ridiculous way of playing under Ange? I'm not even sure our players keep track of the score of the game anymore. Why would they, it's not like there are going to be any adjustments to the way we play whether we are winning or losing. Scores don't matter, Ange-ball does
Reality : Slot is a level above Ange..and Liverpool's squad is far superior to Spurs. Kulesvski is the only player on the teamsheet yesterday who would have a spot in Liverpool's squad. Even if Romero,VDN, Vicario had played Liverpool would have won by at least 3 goals regardless.
Ok, firstly, yes we have a lot of injuries and so there is some reason that our left players are looking jaded, behind the pace and got completely outplayed yesterday. BUT why didn’t Ange accommodate for that? We had a weakened defence and yet left it so open and exposed that every time Liverpool attacked we had to make desperate blocks or conceded. Ange needs to tighten up when the circumstances are such. We can’t continue to play that open when we are so vulnerable. Have you seen our defensive numbers for December? They are the worst in the league. Worse than Leicester, Southampton, every single team! So clearly that’s not as it should be. I give Ange until the end of the season. We do need our full squad back but equally we need to see better squad management and game management than we saw yesterday.
Really happy that we pulled it back to 5-3 and looking to score another yesterday. Yes they scored the 6th but if we managed to get it to 5-4 with enough time to get the 5th, would have been a great finish. That the players didn't retreat into their shells for protection but kept going at it against adversity was a fantastic sign
Ange has commented today that we are 18 months into a rebuild, whilst I do not think he can do it at this level, if Levy continues thinks he can then he better back him, that said two definates 1. Ange will NOT change his system 2. Levy will NOT break his wage structure We still cannot agree on the possible managers though and you think Ange is better than ALL the below Kieran McKenna - 8/1 Eddie Howe - 8/1 Marco Silva - 8/1 Robert de Zerbi - 12/1 Julian Nagelsmann - 12/1 Thomas Frank - 14/1 ✌
@@chookz why? Rubbish team, group of entitled fans who can't get their heads around how bad the squad is, famously tight owners that the same fans can't stop complaining about, several of the most successful managers in the modern game gone there and been hounded out. Clown club
Forster's focus was gone within first few minutes ,invited the pressure. If you can't create more chances than your opponents , how can this be called an attacking side ? Yo-yo inconsistsancy , a failure to adapt or comprimise ,another 18 y/o untested at the PL level and veteran players no where near the table top quality, still on the books and of the FOUR goalkeepers not getting starts because two players are passengers for technical reasons ! Holding vital squad positions and leaving the club short in huge games like this. No wonder Slot is so happy to big Ange up, must already be making room for League Cup.
Trent, Alisson, Konate, Jota, Bradley, Elliott, etc, etc. Liverpool have missed these players at times this season, yet they’re top of 2 leagues. What we need is a bigger squad with more quality.
in this game,I won't blame Ange.Our players looked leggy,especially Sarr and Biss seemed really knackered. We started playing good football when Bergvall came in.
Serious Question sonny ... why havent liverpool scores 6 against any other team in the prem ? .. nuno stop liverpool with a defence worth 19mill ? . Southampton didnt let in 6 . Neither did Ipswich. Our second string back 4 is clear of Southampton and Ipswich back 4 ... even with 11 injuries (only 3 of them start btw) 11th . 3 point off westham
Mr Levy and friends must back ange from the start of the season I was asking myself if we have a squad that can compete with the big guns understand with injuries creeping in things like this is going to happen at the moment we are not a top 4 team let's strengthen our team with quality player's experience in the team are needed still feeling we need a finisher up front creative midfielders goalkeeper and backup in our backline at the moment we are not a top 4 team so mr Levy put your pride in your pocket and splash the cash I'm blaming Levy for everything that's happening now but I will always stick with the club give ange what he wants
Ange holds himself to a higher account than any pundit or other person. A manager cannot please everyone - give him the funding equivalent that Liverpool has and let’s see. We all play really well from the lounge 😂😂😂
Solutions? Ideally a change of ownership. As that’s not going to happen, a manager that is not welded to a system, because Levy is not going to back the manager whoever it is. Meaning we need one who is adaptable enough to work with the squad/players available. Yes, it’s pessimistic, but we are going nowhere under Levy, and he is going nowhere as long as the money keeps rolling in.
Hey Sonny 😊 let’s face it…if it was 6/3 to us everyone will be saying how brilliant he is. My view is Ange is the right man for us! He cares and it’s not about his wage package. He will win things for us! Get our strongest team back and playing Ange Ball and Bang 💥 we are on it ✊🕊️
Defending incompetence is in yourself being incompetent to the facts. Once we get into the bottom half the struggle will increase. And a few players have signed out.
Its hard to play the Ange way without better players at the back. Im Ange in and will give him this full season to see some evidence of The Squad being improved. The Top teams have thrown more time and/or money into their squads , we have to be oatient with Ange . KULU has been our best player this season and I'd like to see him made captain next season 2 players I've been very disappointed are : Dragusin's poor distribution. Bissouma has great athleticism, but often overruns with the ball or distributes badly
This is a rebuild. Do you really think Ange can just go out and purchase 6 top players on top wages and it will fix everything? It takes time. Ange has to raise us to the level that will attract them. This doesn’t happen in 18 months.
@ sure a rebuild, can only rebuild back up to the same current level which is below top level with the wages levy is willing to pay…. Just rebuilding back to the same level with different players at same wages.
Ange has been backed much more than any other manger at the club! Poch was t backed at all in comparison! Levy is main problem but you can’t play open expansive Style against Liverpool. We made them look very good.
No leaders or players who can manage a game in your squad. It's been the same problem for a few seasons. Massive lack of characters on the pitch and zero tactical nous - you were gifted a way back into the game today and rather than manage it properly you just immediately threw it away instead. It's barely even about the manager, you just don't have a good squad. Every year you sign a new centre back no one has heard of and they all turn out to be rubbish.
Levy has done a lot to be critical about over the years but I don't think the blame he is getting now is warranted. People demanded he step away from transfer/footballing decisions so he brings in Munn, Lange, McKenzie, Paratici and a manager in Ange that states he wouldn't accept not being part of the decision making process, yet Levy is the problem? If we look at the poor results that really need to be scrutinized, we had almost full strength teams out. Brighton, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Ipswich etc...... were not down to an injury ravaged squad. I don't think we should give up on Ange just yet but his success at the club will depend on him adapting both to what is available to him and what the opposition do on the pitch, and if he doesn't, then no matter how much money Levy throws at him, he will ultimately fail.
Shilling out after conceding 6 goals at home just shows me why nothing will ever change at this club. Demand better, expect better settle for nothing but winning it all. What are we all doing here just participating for others' success...ffs
And you're right mate decent teams just fly straight through our MF. And I was there for the 4-1 and agree it was a sliding doors moment and Levy never backed Poch or any manager since ffs
man utd lost 3-0, we lost 6-3, same goal difference accept we would be higher in the table due to goals scored. there was still belief at 5-3 that we could get something out of the game, thats a massive difference to previous managers. I believe in Ange, he just needs more backing, there was only johnson and werner on the bench with any decent amount of premier league experience. credit to all the fans who stayed till the end and kept singing COYS
If this game ended with a score line of 3/3-the narrative would have been completely the opposite of what it is now. " Spurs, without its complete starting defensive 4, and a few others -hold arguably the best team in the world today to an amazing draw! .Given the injury list that Spurs have had to contend with, they were on a hiding to nothing. You get these results if you remove any side's complete defensive unit and replace it with 18-year-olds and players inexperienced in the position. As for the media-they are totally irrelevant!!!
Your channel is great, and whilst I understand your points, there are few fundamentals that fan channels like yourself should be clearer on. First is blaming Levy. This is used be the modus operandi of the Spurs faithful. We don't get results that we expect, i.e., win every game and the fans instead of the booing the manager start chanting Levy out. This has worked in the past, even boasted about by some fans. NOT ANYMORE, here's why. Since the building new the new stadium, we as a coporate entity have fundamentally changed. The cost of the stadium is financed through a complex structure (the link below) Anyway, we now have financial investors who get a fixed return like a savings account these are heavily regulated and if you have a private pension this could easily in the mix of investments a pension utilise without telling you. WHY this relevant is segregation of roles in the business. The stadium pays for the team, this is linked to FFP and independent regulator. Levy is NO longer involved in the football side. Johan Lange and Scott Munn are. The stadium is owned by various parties, including the government grants. The amount of finance and what it is spent on is now nothing to do with Levy role, it is a rules based agreement that is regulated. What Levy did do, which he gets no credit for, is the sizeable additional revenue streams at the stadium that can be used to guarantee extra player investment under FFP. Without this, other teams are at a distinct disadvantage moving forward. Not just tomorrow, but for years to come. Under FFP, only ticket sales and other business activities at the stadium can be used for players and wages. Levy past activities can, quite rightly, be questioned, but by definition, what he's done now by working with the government on FFP is give the stadium a large guaranteed revenue stream to build the team. And this isn't under his control, both the level of finance and team selection. He also can't get at his 29% to sell or spend as its all in Trusts, for tax reasons first but also for family. We need to get through this challenging period where we need to trust its going to take time to build but nonetheless continue in one direction, with new players playing entertaining football to finally rid us of the cycle of hire and fire, repeat, which over short spells has given average results and the tag Spursy. Dont take my word for it. Here's the link to stadium ownership, team ownership, and funding. FFP rules link after. thstofficial.com/understanding-the-ownership-and-corporate-structure-of-tottenham-hotspur/ www.uefa.com/running-competitions/integrity/financial-sustainability/
Spurs fans saying we are still in the cups are seriously deluded. Liverpool will knock us out and there are far better teams in the FA and Europey. And Slott met Levy and said no thanks. LEVYOUT
No worries next game we will smash Forrest away and beat Liverpool in Caraboa cup convincingly.Ange is a great tactician and one the best managers in the world.His game management is simply amazing. Clubs like Real Madrid and Inter Milan are after him.
What more evidence is needed to see that Ange isn’t the one? Win, loose or draw we are are naive defensively to say the least, I’d go as far as foolish. I get that we have injuries, but the wise thing to do is to play to the strengths of the players available, but Ange is too high-principled. Euro qualification from the league is all but gone and we aren’t getting further in the league cup. That still leaves 2 cups, so we should hang tight until the end of the season, but that will be the time to move on. That said, if Levy is not prepared to do serious business in January, it doesn’t matter who the manager is.
Agree with you get David Moyes --- you're a smart man .... nothing better than 0-0 Draws, this was rubbish today. Sack the Manager and all those young players, let's get 34 year old defenders in.
it could be 9 nil, against liverpool 3 of the best spurs players scored. and they are in form but against a very strong liverpool who challenging for the the title.
Not a spurs fan but you lot are exciting to watch, you had no chance vs a finely tuned full strength Liverpool. Compare your team man to man vs Liverpool and how long did it take for Klopp to get them to this level.
Ben, I watched because I wanted to hear your reason as to why we lost and what I got was Levy. That’s not true. Analyse the football. Pinpoint the weak points in the game - As you do so well normally instead of going back to recruitment and blaming Levy, (even if he is ultimately to blame). It’s a cop out. Bissouma gave the ball the way numerous times. Dragusin weak and slow against these top Players. Sarr didn’t follow his man on the runs through the channels. And too much space afforded them in the final third. Bing bang bosh… six goals. Sarr is knackered. With a full strength defence, that would not have happened. It would have been closer, if not even.
Spurs is a mid level team (that is what the results show for 30 years), fans remain deluded, some good players, no depth and lots of injuries (If Ange is to be held responsible it is playing a style of football that cannot be delivered with a squad with no depth). As an Ange fan and someone who has watched him win the Asian cup with a weak Australian team and go on a 40 game unbeaten run, he might as well be let go, so that Suprs can find the next Manager to blame. I knew Ange would not last long when the fans complained about losing in a penalty shoot out in the Carabao Cup in 2023 (even when he was winning games)...... never seen such a pathetic fan base. If the team does not win Ange out it is truly embarrasing. Like many who have come to support Spurs because of our long history with the Manager, I could not be happier to see him sacked, so the fans can blame the next manager for what is a capable but not top 5 level squad and the rest of us can move on.
Sacking managers every 18 months won't bring anything good to us. Ange checks a lot of boxes: one of the best attacks in the league, pressing and enternaining football. What does "To dare is to do" mean if not beating Man City 4:0 and the losing to Liverpool 3:6? If you crave clean sheets and boring football, Arteta's Arsenal is there for you😆
Its tough being a Spurs Supporter at the moment. Ive never taken so much stick . Are we just supposed to sacrifice this season and hope we are better next year ? 😮
Are you seriously worried more about how you feel about the criticism by other fans? All rebuilding teams go through this sh1te. Arsenal, Chelski, Utd, Liverpool and now Shitty have been through it.
Maybe i'm looking thru Spurs coloured glasses but that was 1st game this season that we've been outplayed, but still we created chances. I see what Ange wants to achieve with Spurs , he's gonna make mistakes along with the players. we all want the Happy medium, come on do rather this brand of football or what we had with Levy's disaster choices of murinho,nuno, conte . Just win Something Ange and shut up the Haters...COYS!!
He bought these players then loaded most out im happy with the squad now he's moaning 60 years a fan chance in the cup they play Liverpool forget it should have bought Europe n Spanish players an Irish goalkeeper from Liverpool 🇮🇪
Ange in 1million%. A full squad would have struggled against this experienced liverpool side. it seems like the haters wants us to go defensive and lose 1or 2 nil BORING !! If Ange gets the players he wants and they stay fit enough all these haters with no soloution but sack the manager will shut up. nobody knew about vicario,solanke, van de ven take the spine out of any team they're gonna struggle...COYS !!
AngeBALLocks at its best last night, his ideology is good enough somedays and mediocre others.Consistently inconsistent but but but ,home fans saw THREE SpursyS goals, isnt that entertaining!...NINE goals overall...very entertaining mate, thats the way a kangaroo hops!
@@SonnyTalksSpurs GET A MANAGER, a real one.Not some idealogical fat buffoon!Stats..last 24 league games 13 losses...20th(in EPL) in December for shots faced, shots on goal faced..BIG CHANCES faced...ya cant go lower , SO, hows the project to the bottom?
You can defend Ange all day... But he's clueless. Stubborn and arrogant. Playing a high line and high press against liverpool is delusional... Doing so when you have your GK, 3 CBs and LB missing is unacceptable. You can blame Levy and say Ange is down to the bare bones... But that's when you have to look at what you have and change the tactics to suit them. That's Anges job, not Levys. Not even the players, they play the way they're instructed to play. Ange thinking he can do what he did with Celtic, in the premier league is ridiculous. And he's had plenty of time to recognise that and adapt but he refuses.
You know what would be great investment from the board let's keep ange his style of football is something spurs has been built on beautiful foot football he just needs to be backed the club needs to be backed! We need a 2nd choice keeper for sure forster should be a 4th choice at best... we need a full squad to rotate and play how we want and need to
Months ago I had a go at you thinking you were OUT ANge....glad to see your position now....People just need to understand Aussie attitude to sport...our population means we always battle against the odds....Soccer [football] is 4th in line behind AFL Rugby Leagye and union in popularity here in OZ.....Ange has battled to try and get Football popular -even winning the Asian Cup was a huge thing that went un-noticed in OZ...he is a battler and knows tough times...his attitude is what he is trying to put into place....seems to me calling out supporters backing City at home game last year shows what a huge job he has...many Spurs fans are so flaky and also fake....glad to see you are still backing him...anyhow am enjoying Spurs footballif allowed to continue your team will be huge...
We lost because we play six up front , two at the back .... Even more reason with all the injuries to play a little bit cuter 🤦.... That was ridiculous , i said this is going to be a long drawn out affair with ange because we will give a few teams a hiding , but ultimately you vant challenge for major honours setting up like we do , its inevitable hes going to get the boot i just hope its sooner rather than later so we can start over YET again , we will never be where we want with levy in charge but this is just painful , alarms bells should be ringing to all the ange fans when we go 2 or 3 up and know were not Guaranteed the win ! I said it doesn't matter what team we play in the leauge they will get 4 or 5 glorious chances to score against us , and that tells you everything you need to know , this support of ange is madness
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A knackered Spurs team with second-string players in key positions got beat by the best team in the prem.
Your take is spot on, mate. Back Ange, he has shown that the team is able to win big matches.
We just need more consistency, which comes from quality squad depth reinforcements (i.e. transfers or through the Spurs youth academy) and not sacking the coach.
Spurs were arguably after Arne Slot and Postecolglou last year, so it seems that our taste in managers is quite good. One possibility is that we may have reached the maximum state from the current club owners. There are rumours that Tottenham is looking to sell 20-30% of the club to a new rich investor, in order to allow future growth of the club :)
Definitely Ange in. There's no point in being over-reactionary/emotional. This was never gonna be a quick fix. And with this board, any manager would struggle lol. He's not perfect of course, but I rate Ange for actually sticking to his philosophy and trying to keep the vision consistent. This was the same 11 that played mid-week, and it's not even our strongest 11, so what did we really think would happen?
The bigger picture will never really change until Spurs get new owners. Timo Werner off the bench just says it all man.
How many teams have had the fortitude to put 3 past a full strength Liverpool after being pumped for most of the game. ? Most struggle.
Even when the chips were down,the lads kept it 100 and kept fighting. That is progress.
Surely haha
And how many teams has Liverpool put SIX past?!
@@mirrors23they are the form team in Epl and champions league. They are purring at the moment.
@@eliasmangi7593 Making excuses for shipping 6 goals at home…
Massive injury crisis. Getting some wins with the squad in this state is super human.
👏👏👏👏👏, most definitely it .
Agreed
funny how most pundits seem to ignore that ... yet Arsenal lose 1 player and fall apart ... and everyone makes excuses for them
@LevyHappyClapper same with city.
Who agreed to recruit these players? Why are we constantly getting injuries under Ange? Why are we playing Gray at CB instead of an actual CB in Dorrington? Why is there is no in-game management? Why are we taking off Maddison, the most productive player on the pitch?
Ange is an amateur Sunday League manager.
Fun Game, disappointed but we have to look at a few things.
- Liverpool is in form on top of the league.
- Salah is consistently on fire - Son has been nowhere near his best.
- Spurs depleted through injury running on empty.
- we missed Mickey VDV at the back. Take liverpools back 3 out and they'd struggle.
- if Spurs score the 4th it's a very different ending.
- We never gave up.
- The bounce of the ball was very much going Liverpools way.
- fatigue - handed the ball over too many times.
- We still put 3 goals on the best team in the world without our very best squad.
Ange in - we never gave up.
Well said
It's a relevant comparison between the veterans Salah and Son. They were born within a month of each other.
@@waynekasmar4401 Disagree.
Ange is 100% the guy to take us forward.
Look how depleted we are and we're still only a handful of points off 4th. We've scored 12 goals in 3 games. We know what the problem is, it's recruitment. Spurs went too far into the "buying for the future" style. We need a couple more bodies in January and then a couple more in the summer and we'll be fine. Just ride this out. We got no cover and everyone is knackered but they're giving it everything. It's not like they've downed tools, that would be different. We know how good Angeball can be. Just keep the faith, it'll come good
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Stay the course
Delusional
respect to Ange we are still kicking it .
Out of his depth. Don't believe in him!👇
The home crowd was clearly behind the team.
Most of us thought this was always going to be a tough game and so it came to be.
Does anybody actually believe if we parked the bus , we wouldn't concede 6 ??????
Precisely. The squad is threadbare and exhausted. It's nothing to do with tactics and or formations.
we would have lost even if we parked 10 buses ... so no point trying that
It takes time to build and the team is exhausted! It sucks to lose but in 1-2 years we’ll win the league. Not just place top 4. Ange in!
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You poor sod.😅😅😅
You can discuss this until the cows come home. The simple fact is we don't have a quality squad and the club is being miss managed from the very top. We all know that. It's not something that's just happened, it goes way back. The whole club needs a complete shift. The one innocent person here is Ange. Yes the club will survive because it's being treated as an asset. A fantastic stadium without doubt. However you can have a Ferrari but it doesn't mean your a good driver. The solution is up to Levy. He really needs to take note of the motto 'to dare is to do'
"Dare to spend" more like it.
I would say that most people that comment are feeling the need to vent, they are emotional because they want their team to win. Because of this the comments are often positive when we win and Ange out if we lose. I respect people who have been Ange never in, or maybe wanted him out mid season last year. But the waffling back and forth is just a sign of a persons emotional regulation. Ange out because you’re sad, and you want to vent. Not because it would make a difference, not because a better manager is waiting in the wings, just vent. But my favorite thing is how we still think we are a top 4 club, Man U fans are the same, denial. Sorry we aren’t a top four club. We are rebuilding. And Liverpool are the best team in Europe currently, I hoped we would win, but I didn’t expect to. If you expected to win, if you think we are a top four club, and Ange out because Liverpool beat us. Then you need to seriously step back and take stock.
We need to keep backing
I am not a Ange out but why keep playing the two or three players, which are just not good enough? Surely he and his team look back and see the mistakes these players are making
Well said mate. When I was a kid I would get upset with scorelines. I am now a middle aged man and do not get emotional over something I cannot control. Spurs are plagued with inquiries and up against the best team in the league. If we had a full squad the scoreline would have been different.
Well said
It's not about the winning - its about the poor way off loosing , opponents attacking You see that team goals from their half comming .
Spurs knew how they were going to play and did not change it up to suit, scoreline flattered spurs, poor management
Tbh I wasn’t surprised nor am I disappointed, what a lot of people don’t seem to realise is this, if we’re City’s worst nightmare then Liverpool are ours.
The pundits are wrong and anty Spurs, they formed this opinion of Spurs and make no allowance for our injuries, I’m right with you changing managers is not the answer, but changing the owners might be.
Keep the faith mate and coys
I still have faith
I'm firmly Ange out. But not until the end of the season. Ange simply does not manage the game, the players and resources. He continues to play the same way, no matter what, this is a major flaw as other teams know exactly how you will play at ALL times. We have lots of muscle injuries, which could easily be accounted for by his style of football. He does not adapt his style to suit the players at his disposal. This is not 'management'. Horses for courses, no, he simply trots out the same style regardless of personnel and reduced player numbers.
do you think injuries have impacted him
@@SonnyTalksSpurs Yes, but I feel his playing style has contributed to injuries. Also apart from his first 6 months, results have been sub par.
@@SonnyTalksSpursHe caused them, with his Clown Ball.
Think most Spurs fans feel the same..
Spurs Norway FB voted:
300 votes
Ange In, but needs backing 71%
Ange out 8%
Levy and Ange out 5%
Levy out Ange in 16%
yes needs backing but will never be backed like a chelsea ... never going to happen
Did anyone really expect us to beat Liverpool ?
Zero rotation and zero game management from Ange this season. Losing to an in-form Liverpool is not a problem but he just wasted first team players another 90 minutes. Now the same players have to go again on 26th against NF and another game on 29th.
Sonny, you are right that Spurs need proper investment in players (like Liverpool did) but you are looking, mostly, in the wrong direction. The front five are exhausted. In Ange's system (Spurs, Celtic, Yokohama) the team defends from the front. The front five are the key to defending. Son, Kulu, Solanke, Maddison and Sarr are spent. Because there is no front five depth on the bench, they have had to play game after game. I'd love to see statistics on how many minutes the starting front five tonight have played across all games since the Man City win. I bet it's significantly higher than for LFC's front five or ManU from Thursday night. No Odobert, Moore, Richarlison & Bentancur, and a lack of Premier League ready transfers over the summer has left the squad running on fumes. I'm surprised they played as well as they did under the circumstances.
Because they felt like it.
Agreed. Tough road ahead before we see anything... Hopefully second half of year with some players back..
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When we have depth and quality added to the team. It will help a lot of the players.
Compare the 2 teams, we are not there yet.
Cups are the focus, we are depleted. We can't win every game in all competitions.
Today we showed our lack of quality
There are too many injuries and we have a squad that lacks quality and experienced depth! You cannot build a squad at this level with four or five kids on the bench! You are right; Gray is playing in positions other than midfield. He is clearly not capable of playing them against the top teams. Shows every time we come up against quality teams. The backline has to be Udogie VDV Romero and Spence from now on. The team is still at least a few windows away from having a really good squad.
Levy needs to full his finger out
It's like playing 5 a side football with your mates.
100% agree that the team lacks leaders. Seems like searching for Ange-ball players hasn't involved recruiting leaders. It was such a relief to see the back of Moan-rinho & C*nt-ay, but surely this is a ridiculous way of playing under Ange? I'm not even sure our players keep track of the score of the game anymore. Why would they, it's not like there are going to be any adjustments to the way we play whether we are winning or losing. Scores don't matter, Ange-ball does
We are along way off the finished article
Reality : Slot is a level above Ange..and Liverpool's squad is far superior to Spurs. Kulesvski is the only player on the teamsheet yesterday who would have a spot in Liverpool's squad. Even if Romero,VDN, Vicario had played Liverpool would have won by at least 3 goals regardless.
Ok, firstly, yes we have a lot of injuries and so there is some reason that our left players are looking jaded, behind the pace and got completely outplayed yesterday. BUT why didn’t Ange accommodate for that? We had a weakened defence and yet left it so open and exposed that every time Liverpool attacked we had to make desperate blocks or conceded.
Ange needs to tighten up when the circumstances are such. We can’t continue to play that open when we are so vulnerable. Have you seen our defensive numbers for December? They are the worst in the league. Worse than Leicester, Southampton, every single team! So clearly that’s not as it should be.
I give Ange until the end of the season. We do need our full squad back but equally we need to see better squad management and game management than we saw yesterday.
Really happy that we pulled it back to 5-3 and looking to score another yesterday. Yes they scored the 6th but if we managed to get it to 5-4 with enough time to get the 5th, would have been a great finish. That the players didn't retreat into their shells for protection but kept going at it against adversity was a fantastic sign
If we had a bit more who knows what could have happened
Your deluded, being so open at back shopping in 5/6 goals is pathetic and not acceptable..l
@@fwof3347 Cheers for your calm response!
They took their foot off because it was so easy.
Ange is our saviour. Levy must give him time and the right players - which I think he knows
surely
Ange has commented today that we are 18 months into a rebuild, whilst I do not think he can do it at this level, if Levy continues thinks he can then he better back him, that said two definates
1. Ange will NOT change his system
2. Levy will NOT break his wage structure
We still cannot agree on the possible managers though and you think Ange is better than ALL the below
Kieran McKenna - 8/1
Eddie Howe - 8/1
Marco Silva - 8/1
Robert de Zerbi - 12/1
Julian Nagelsmann - 12/1
Thomas Frank - 14/1
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In what world do you think Eddie Howe leaves Newcastle to join Tottenham? So deluded and entitled
@@rmh032Tottenham is a better proposition than Newcastle bro
@@chookz why? Rubbish team, group of entitled fans who can't get their heads around how bad the squad is, famously tight owners that the same fans can't stop complaining about, several of the most successful managers in the modern game gone there and been hounded out. Clown club
Ange in Ange out after every game is so frustrating judge him by the results at the end of this year or next
Exactly
No Premier League team could have beaten Liverpool.
they are top for a reason
Forster's focus was gone within first few minutes ,invited the pressure. If you can't create more chances than your opponents , how can this be called an attacking side ? Yo-yo inconsistsancy , a failure to adapt or comprimise ,another 18 y/o untested at the PL level and veteran players no where near the table top quality, still on the books and of the FOUR goalkeepers not getting starts because two players are passengers for technical reasons ! Holding vital squad positions and leaving the club short in huge games like this. No wonder Slot is so happy to big Ange up, must already be making room for League Cup.
It is not the defence it is the midfield
An exhausted midfield with barely any substitution options.
I noticed this as well
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Trent, Alisson, Konate, Jota, Bradley, Elliott, etc, etc. Liverpool have missed these players at times this season, yet they’re top of 2 leagues. What we need is a bigger squad with more quality.
in this game,I won't blame Ange.Our players looked leggy,especially Sarr and Biss seemed really knackered. We started playing good football when Bergvall came in.
They are shattered
We need Big VIC because Forster is going to sink Tottenham.
Tottenham need a new keeper in January!!!
Desperate
Serious Question sonny ... why havent liverpool scores 6 against any other team in the prem ? .. nuno stop liverpool with a defence worth 19mill ? . Southampton didnt let in 6 . Neither did Ipswich. Our second string back 4 is clear of Southampton and Ipswich back 4 ... even with 11 injuries (only 3 of them start btw) 11th . 3 point off westham
but we have no depth or rotation atm
Bissouma was poor yesterday. And Sarr didn’t follow his man in on the run twice. Goals.
No shame in that result
I guess haha
3 goals is fuck all... Liverpool are the best...
Ange goes you'll battle relegation ffs
not sure who fixes it
Mr Levy and friends must back ange from the start of the season I was asking myself if we have a squad that can compete with the big guns understand with injuries creeping in things like this is going to happen at the moment we are not a top 4 team let's strengthen our team with quality player's experience in the team are needed still feeling we need a finisher up front creative midfielders goalkeeper and backup in our backline at the moment we are not a top 4 team so mr Levy put your pride in your pocket and splash the cash I'm blaming Levy for everything that's happening now but I will always stick with the club give ange what he wants
Ange holds himself to a higher account than any pundit or other person. A manager cannot please everyone - give him the funding equivalent that Liverpool has and let’s see. We all play really well from the lounge 😂😂😂
Exactly
Absolutely agree with you mate. Absolutely. 100%. Well spoken
thank you - hope you enjoy the channel
@@SonnyTalksSpurs I sure do. Merry Christmas Sonny. All the best
Stop whining Liverpool are full strength FFS
I did say that
If you think Ange should stay until end of season which I agree then he has to go again in transfer market and is manager next season.
Yeah that’s true
Solutions? Ideally a change of ownership. As that’s not going to happen, a manager that is not welded to a system, because Levy is not going to back the manager whoever it is. Meaning we need one who is adaptable enough to work with the squad/players available. Yes, it’s pessimistic, but we are going nowhere under Levy, and he is going nowhere as long as the money keeps rolling in.
Levy should sell
Hey Sonny 😊 let’s face it…if it was 6/3 to us everyone will be saying how brilliant he is. My view is Ange is the right man for us! He cares and it’s not about his wage package. He will win things for us! Get our strongest team back and playing Ange Ball and Bang 💥 we are on it ✊🕊️
Yes. Get the squad back plus a couple of additions (we need another PL ready right winger) and it's game on against anyone.
Defending incompetence is in yourself being incompetent to the facts. Once we get into the bottom half the struggle will increase. And a few players have signed out.
Seasoned men playing a rookie defensive 4. The best is yet to come.
you know
Sonny can I ask you something, what's your breaking point on Ange?
I’ll give him until the end of the season - see where we are and if we have won anything
January is not time to give Ange what he needs. Might get one or two but not what’s required.
Wait until summer
Its hard to play the Ange way without better players at the back. Im Ange in and will give him this full season to see some evidence of The Squad being improved. The Top teams have thrown more time and/or money into their squads , we have to be oatient with Ange . KULU has been our best player this season and I'd like to see him made captain next season
2 players I've been very disappointed are :
Dragusin's poor distribution. Bissouma has great athleticism, but often overruns with the ball or distributes badly
Levy wouldn't pay the release fee for Slot.
So we went for the cheap option.
it was a literal basketball match
So end to end
To compete with the top teams you have to pay “TOP” wages, which won’t happen under levy.
will never happen
This is a rebuild. Do you really think Ange can just go out and purchase 6 top players on top wages and it will fix everything? It takes time. Ange has to raise us to the level that will attract them. This doesn’t happen in 18 months.
@ sure a rebuild, can only rebuild back up to the same current level which is below top level with the wages levy is willing to pay…. Just rebuilding back to the same level with different players at same wages.
Hahahaha.....Sonny the Ange Cult follower .....
That is me!
Ange has been backed much more than any other manger at the club! Poch was t backed at all in comparison! Levy is main problem but you can’t play open expansive Style against Liverpool. We made them look very good.
yeah but only because we had nothing left and just sold kane
No leaders or players who can manage a game in your squad. It's been the same problem for a few seasons. Massive lack of characters on the pitch and zero tactical nous - you were gifted a way back into the game today and rather than manage it properly you just immediately threw it away instead. It's barely even about the manager, you just don't have a good squad. Every year you sign a new centre back no one has heard of and they all turn out to be rubbish.
Levy has done a lot to be critical about over the years but I don't think the blame he is getting now is warranted. People demanded he step away from transfer/footballing decisions so he brings in Munn, Lange, McKenzie, Paratici and a manager in Ange that states he wouldn't accept not being part of the decision making process, yet Levy is the problem? If we look at the poor results that really need to be scrutinized, we had almost full strength teams out. Brighton, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Ipswich etc...... were not down to an injury ravaged squad.
I don't think we should give up on Ange just yet but his success at the club will depend on him adapting both to what is available to him and what the opposition do on the pitch, and if he doesn't, then no matter how much money Levy throws at him, he will ultimately fail.
Shilling out after conceding 6 goals at home just shows me why nothing will ever change at this club. Demand better, expect better settle for nothing but winning it all. What are we all doing here just participating for others' success...ffs
same old isn't it
And you're right mate decent teams just fly straight through our MF. And I was there for the 4-1 and agree it was a sliding doors moment and Levy never backed Poch or any manager since ffs
Where were Liv after 18 mnths with klopp and city with pep?
things take time
You was happy with the window ? You was happy with 1 senior player in the 11 .. now look
I was fine with it. When we get our D back, we'll win these games.
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Couldn't our state of art Stadium put on a kit and play a game ?
LOL
man utd lost 3-0, we lost 6-3, same goal difference accept we would be higher in the table due to goals scored.
there was still belief at 5-3 that we could get something out of the game, thats a massive difference to previous managers.
I believe in Ange, he just needs more backing, there was only johnson and werner on the bench with any decent amount of premier league experience.
credit to all the fans who stayed till the end and kept singing COYS
If this game ended with a score line of 3/3-the narrative would have been completely the opposite of what it is now.
" Spurs, without its complete starting defensive 4, and a few others -hold arguably the best team in the world today to an amazing draw!
.Given the injury list that Spurs have had to contend with, they were on a hiding to nothing. You get these results if you remove any side's complete defensive unit and replace it with 18-year-olds and players inexperienced in the position. As for the media-they are totally irrelevant!!!
100% Ange IN
love it
Your channel is great, and whilst I understand your points, there are few fundamentals that fan channels like yourself should be clearer on. First is blaming Levy. This is used be the modus operandi of the Spurs faithful. We don't get results that we expect, i.e., win every game and the fans instead of the booing the manager start chanting Levy out. This has worked in the past, even boasted about by some fans.
NOT ANYMORE, here's why.
Since the building new the new stadium, we as a coporate entity have fundamentally changed. The cost of the stadium is financed through a complex structure (the link below) Anyway, we now have financial investors who get a fixed return like a savings account these are heavily regulated and if you have a private pension this could easily in the mix of investments a pension utilise without telling you.
WHY this relevant is segregation of roles in the business. The stadium pays for the team, this is linked to FFP and independent regulator. Levy is NO longer involved in the football side. Johan Lange and Scott Munn are. The stadium is owned by various parties, including the government grants. The amount of finance and what it is spent on is now nothing to do with Levy role, it is a rules based agreement that is regulated. What Levy did do, which he gets no credit for, is the sizeable additional revenue streams at the stadium that can be used to guarantee extra player investment under FFP. Without this, other teams are at a distinct disadvantage moving forward. Not just tomorrow, but for years to come. Under FFP, only ticket sales and other business activities at the stadium can be used for players and wages.
Levy past activities can, quite rightly, be questioned, but by definition, what he's done now by working with the government on FFP is give the stadium a large guaranteed revenue stream to build the team. And this isn't under his control, both the level of finance and team selection.
He also can't get at his 29% to sell or spend as its all in Trusts, for tax reasons first but also for family.
We need to get through this challenging period where we need to trust its going to take time to build but nonetheless continue in one direction, with new players playing entertaining football to finally rid us of the cycle of hire and fire, repeat, which over short spells has given average results and the tag Spursy. Dont take my word for it. Here's the link to stadium ownership, team ownership, and funding. FFP rules link after.
thstofficial.com/understanding-the-ownership-and-corporate-structure-of-tottenham-hotspur/
www.uefa.com/running-competitions/integrity/financial-sustainability/
The squid games stuff yesterday summed spurs up
Spurs fans saying we are still in the cups are seriously deluded. Liverpool will knock us out and there are far better teams in the FA and Europey. And Slott met Levy and said no thanks. LEVYOUT
No worries next game we will smash Forrest away and beat Liverpool in Caraboa cup convincingly.Ange is a great tactician and one the best managers in the world.His game management is simply amazing. Clubs like Real Madrid and Inter Milan are after him.
What more evidence is needed to see that Ange isn’t the one? Win, loose or draw we are are naive defensively to say the least, I’d go as far as foolish. I get that we have injuries, but the wise thing to do is to play to the strengths of the players available, but Ange is too high-principled. Euro qualification from the league is all but gone and we aren’t getting further in the league cup. That still leaves 2 cups, so we should hang tight until the end of the season, but that will be the time to move on. That said, if Levy is not prepared to do serious business in January, it doesn’t matter who the manager is.
Agree with you get David Moyes --- you're a smart man .... nothing better than 0-0 Draws, this was rubbish today. Sack the Manager and all those young players, let's get 34 year old defenders in.
moyes haha
it could be 9 nil, against liverpool 3 of the best spurs players scored. and they are in form but against a very strong liverpool who challenging for the the title.
Not a spurs fan but you lot are exciting to watch, you had no chance vs a finely tuned full strength Liverpool. Compare your team man to man vs Liverpool and how long did it take for Klopp to get them to this level.
Ben, I watched because I wanted to hear your reason as to why we lost and what I got was Levy. That’s not true. Analyse the football. Pinpoint the weak points in the game - As you do so well normally instead of going back to recruitment and blaming Levy, (even if he is ultimately to blame). It’s a cop out.
Bissouma gave the ball the way numerous times. Dragusin weak and slow against these top Players. Sarr didn’t follow his man on the runs through the channels. And too much space afforded them in the final third. Bing bang bosh… six goals. Sarr is knackered.
With a full strength defence, that would not have happened. It would have been closer, if not even.
Spurs is a mid level team (that is what the results show for 30 years), fans remain deluded, some good players, no depth and lots of injuries (If Ange is to be held responsible it is playing a style of football that cannot be delivered with a squad with no depth). As an Ange fan and someone who has watched him win the Asian cup with a weak Australian team and go on a 40 game unbeaten run, he might as well be let go, so that Suprs can find the next Manager to blame. I knew Ange would not last long when the fans complained about losing in a penalty shoot out in the Carabao Cup in 2023 (even when he was winning games)...... never seen such a pathetic fan base. If the team does not win Ange out it is truly embarrasing. Like many who have come to support Spurs because of our long history with the Manager, I could not be happier to see him sacked, so the fans can blame the next manager for what is a capable but not top 5 level squad and the rest of us can move on.
we do need to know where we are in the pecking order
Sacking managers every 18 months won't bring anything good to us. Ange checks a lot of boxes: one of the best attacks in the league, pressing and enternaining football. What does "To dare is to do" mean if not beating Man City 4:0 and the losing to Liverpool 3:6?
If you crave clean sheets and boring football, Arteta's Arsenal is there for you😆
VDV, Romero and Vicario on deck and its a closer match, Liverpool dont score 6
i agree
Finally. A pundit who gets it right.
Its tough being a Spurs Supporter at the moment. Ive never taken so much stick . Are we just supposed to sacrifice this season and hope we are better next year ? 😮
Are you seriously worried more about how you feel about the criticism by other fans? All rebuilding teams go through this sh1te. Arsenal, Chelski, Utd, Liverpool and now Shitty have been through it.
Levy needs to sell club and sack those idiot .. over his excuses .. excuse after excuse constantly found out .. I am tired of watching my Tottenham
levy wont go
Are Spurs fans ok? Seriously!! You've got 10 players out. Not 10 fringe players but the most experienced as well. Ange isn't the problem here.
Neutral! This joke of an outfit is the laughingstock of the league! Really isn’t Ange! Your owner is a complete joke!
he has been the same for years
Maybe i'm looking thru Spurs coloured glasses but that was 1st game this season that we've been outplayed, but still we created chances. I see what Ange wants to achieve with Spurs , he's gonna make mistakes along with the players. we all want the Happy medium, come on do rather this brand of football or what we had with Levy's disaster choices of murinho,nuno, conte . Just win Something Ange and shut up the Haters...COYS!!
we need that trophy more
He bought these players then loaded most out im happy with the squad now he's moaning 60 years a fan chance in the cup they play Liverpool forget it should have bought Europe n Spanish players an Irish goalkeeper from Liverpool 🇮🇪
Ange in 1million%. A full squad would have struggled against this experienced liverpool side. it seems like the haters wants us to go defensive and lose 1or 2 nil BORING !! If Ange gets the players he wants and they stay fit enough all these haters with no soloution but sack the manager will shut up. nobody knew about vicario,solanke, van de ven take the spine out of any team they're gonna struggle...COYS !!
Sack levy and ange get sergio c as manger x porto coach😊
He’s shite as well haha
Heard song got to stick together try defending together never mind useless
Stop blaming injuries.its your system of play is stupid. High line agsinst the best tesm in europe right now is the dumbest shit ever.
but we have loads
Angeball is not going to work. He haven't done anything to save players from injury. He have not use academy player for any significant minutes.
AngeBALLocks at its best last night, his ideology is good enough somedays and mediocre others.Consistently inconsistent but but but ,home fans saw THREE SpursyS goals, isnt that entertaining!...NINE goals overall...very entertaining mate, thats the way a kangaroo hops!
What is your solution?
@@SonnyTalksSpurs GET A MANAGER, a real one.Not some idealogical fat buffoon!Stats..last 24 league games 13 losses...20th(in EPL) in December for shots faced, shots on goal faced..BIG CHANCES faced...ya cant go lower , SO, hows the project to the bottom?
Ange hasn't got a clue he is the definition of a one trick pony :(
Like Spurs always beat Liverpool😂.. Particularly with next to no backline but besides… Tottenham almost never beat Liverpool
They have the best attack in the league and 4th best goal difference suggests he has a clue.
You can defend Ange all day... But he's clueless. Stubborn and arrogant.
Playing a high line and high press against liverpool is delusional... Doing so when you have your GK, 3 CBs and LB missing is unacceptable.
You can blame Levy and say Ange is down to the bare bones... But that's when you have to look at what you have and change the tactics to suit them. That's Anges job, not Levys. Not even the players, they play the way they're instructed to play.
Ange thinking he can do what he did with Celtic, in the premier league is ridiculous. And he's had plenty of time to recognise that and adapt but he refuses.
You know what would be great investment from the board let's keep ange his style of football is something spurs has been built on beautiful foot football he just needs to be backed the club needs to be backed! We need a 2nd choice keeper for sure forster should be a 4th choice at best... we need a full squad to rotate and play how we want and need to
People keep contradicting themselves over what they want
Months ago I had a go at you thinking you were OUT ANge....glad to see your position now....People just need to understand Aussie attitude to sport...our population means we always battle against the odds....Soccer [football] is 4th in line behind AFL Rugby Leagye and union in popularity here in OZ.....Ange has battled to try and get Football popular -even winning the Asian Cup was a huge thing that went un-noticed in OZ...he is a battler and knows tough times...his attitude is what he is trying to put into place....seems to me calling out supporters backing City at home game last year shows what a huge job he has...many Spurs fans are so flaky and also fake....glad to see you are still backing him...anyhow am enjoying Spurs footballif allowed to continue your team will be huge...
He always has it against him ange
@@SonnyTalksSpurs He also has that laid back Aussie sense of humout that people don not seen to get
Win nothing with this team bought second rate English players win nothing
We lost because we play six up front , two at the back .... Even more reason with all the injuries to play a little bit cuter 🤦.... That was ridiculous , i said this is going to be a long drawn out affair with ange because we will give a few teams a hiding , but ultimately you vant challenge for major honours setting up like we do , its inevitable hes going to get the boot i just hope its sooner rather than later so we can start over YET again , we will never be where we want with levy in charge but this is just painful , alarms bells should be ringing to all the ange fans when we go 2 or 3 up and know were not Guaranteed the win ! I said it doesn't matter what team we play in the leauge they will get 4 or 5 glorious chances to score against us , and that tells you everything you need to know , this support of ange is madness
What do you want to change then?
who would you have picked in defence? --- Lets start with the Keeper?
Ange out in the summer f he doesn't change
You talk nonsense too. If our players are injured let’s play conservative smart till they come back.
so who would you put in defence today? --- did we had anyone? Who would you have picked for Keeper?
@ 5 across the back 4 in the middle Solanke as a target man. Just till players start returning