Loves jazz but hates blues ? 🎹 Using blues scale in jazz
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Brillant talk!
I think playing jazz without blues is cooking without spices. I'm all with you.
I agree, love blues in jazz!
Excellent video, brilliant Tony
‘Swinging Shepherd Blues’ suggested in this video was originally written by the late Canadian jazz great Moe Koffman. It is a lovely example where jazz and blues collide…
Thanks Maestro 😊.
Thanks for this Tony. It’s a useful reminder about playing the blues scale from the perspective of the relative minor. I’ve just tried it on the 6 chord of a 1 6 2 5 where the 6 was a A7 ; it throws up an interesting starting note and other combinations that I wouldn’t normally think of if based it on A mixolydian or A pentatonic for example
Very sweet playing and thinking Tony.
Great tutorial Tony! It would be very difficult for me to not look for an opportunity to add a blues lick in a jazz tune where you hear it in your head the second before you play it.
On the subject about blues scales and playing blues licks in keys like B and E and others, It took me a long time to get out of the comfort zone of preferring to play in keys like F and C where you typically slide from a black key to a white key. I found myself in a lot of trouble when I first started playing in blues bands with slide guitar players who use open tunings in E or D and others. I locked myself in the music room and didn't come out until I could play the same blues licks and roll the notes in every key.
You're blues piano playing my ear finds perty darn nice. A guitar can not quite capture that sound. Even those crazy guys that play two guitars....
It's a contradiction in terms to say "l love jazz but I hate the blues". Because jazz was born out of the blues. All the greatest jazz players from Louis Armstrong to Charlie Parker played the blues. And they still do, right up to the present day. So anyone who would say something like that, must not be musically educated.
It's not a contradiction...it's just phrased imprecisely. Just because one genre gave birth to another doesn't mean that all of the stylistic qualities from one carries over into the other, even in cases where the musical form is the same. For instance, there's a huge difference between a bird blues and delta blues, even if both are considered "blues". One can presumably like one but not the other. When jazz players play a blues, their approach towards timbre, phrasing, harmony, and improvisation is just not the same as folks who are more traditionally blues.
Another point is that jazz isn't a subset of the blues. Many jazz tunes have nothing to do with the blues, at least not directly. Latin jazz isn't blues (though it may occasionally borrow blues idioms). Show tunes lean more towards conventional harmony. Free jazz isn't really bluesy at all.
I find myself, a jazz piano minor in college, to be one of the educated people who aren't too excited about the blues. I had many peers who felt the same way.
To be a good jazz musician you have to respect and study the blues, but you don't have to love it. I just didn't enjoy playing or listening to straight ahead blues.
I wouldn't expect someone super into Polyphia, a modern prog rock band, to like Chuck Berry just because "that's where rock came from". They're completely different listening experiences. The same could be said about many subgenres of jazz.
That’s stupid concept in modern contemporary era nowadays.
Thanks Tony.. food for thought! Surely, all the greats incorporated blues in their playing?! Brubeck, Oscar P etc
I must try some of your scale suggestions, so many possibilities!
I respect the fact that you've touched a borderline third rail topic and a high risk of political incorrectness addressing an elephant in the room that I've personally observed tonight throughout my own personal semi professional playing career. (30 plus years as a predominantly rock bass player who's been perpetually caught in the middle on artistic direction between jazzier keyboardist [which is what I strive to do now ] and the more primal blues guitarist / Shredder who wants to connect to the audience at all costs music theory be damned) tension between a refined keyboardist with a solid knowledge of Music Theory (super ego) and the often flashy loud lead guitarist (id) that seems to scoff at music theory.
Respect to you for commenting on it in an honest way and trying to find some sort of bridge however feud between the two camps on performing for the public. Kudos to you for your bravery. I completely get with the commenters are saying ' loving Jazz but hating the Blues'
Some most insightful comments I've heard on any TH-cam video
Well I think u sound great!
Hello maestro
Hi Josue !
I agree with you Master Tony. In the II V I major I use the pentatonic of the i and relative minor blues, but in the II V I minor it does not work well. What do you advise? Thanks.
Have a look at "Dudley Moore" Sooz Blooz" chart says it's in C but seems to be in A? major or minor, I'm not sure? Would be great to hear your take in this great piece of music!!!
I’m just the opposite, I love the blues but can’t quite get down with jazz (unless it’s bluesy jazz).
Blind willie Mctell. l!!
this be me 😂
There is a distinction between playing twelve bar blues and playing bluesy. Further, musicians can play too much blues in their soloing, especially on material from the American Songbook. I love Oscar Peterson, but he is sometimes guilty of that; playing blues can take you too far away from a song's melody. Do we want All The Things You Are sounding like a spiritual? Better that on Down By The Riverside or Alexander's Ragtime Band.
Yes definitely. You don't want to overdo it and it works better in some songs and not as well in others.
You can't love jazz and hate blues. You might be delusional.
There are no rigid rules out there like this
This person needs to check out Bessie Smith, jelly roll Morton, and the Louis Armstrong album he did with WC Handy. These are more of, for example if you're in C; instead of going from C7 to G7 you go to Dm7 instead.