Dad got me my first deer gun in 1984 when I was about 14. It was a Rem 760 in .35 rem. Many years later I have all the bigger and fancy guns. 30-06 , 270, 243, 350 legend, 300 Win mag and several others. I hunt in the thick woods of PA, and my .35 goes with me on opening day of rifle every year. Part tradition, and partly because it has never let me down out to 100 yards.....Love that gun
Same, I bring my grandpa's old marlin rifle in .30-30 out to keep his memory alive, one notch in the stock for every deer it dropped over the past 80 years. Kinda feel weird carving the stock because replaced it with one he made himself out of some korean red elm he brought back from the war.
My local gun store here in florida still gets the remington corelokt and hornady. Four boxes of each every two months, and they sell it for only $39.99
35 Remington is mighty fine. It absolutely will anchor an old buck really quick. It performs better than what the ballistic charts would make you believe. Buffalo Bore makes a great round for the 35. I am proud to see it getting some love.
I'm learning that Buffalo Bore makes some really great cartridge options/loads! They can be a little pricey, but they make some serious rounds! I'll have to keep an eye out for their 35 Rem offering. Learning what I've learned, I would LOVE to see what they offer.
@@adamallison3685 The 38 special is 357 magnum on fentanyl. Why would you compare the 30-30 Winchester and the 35 Remington to 38 special? They all get the job done but most cartridges get the job done. When you consider what a cartridge actually does they all perform like cartridges did in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Which is they worked great. But now we've advanced and most people want to shoot deer from the warmth of their truck from a public road and they expect to be able to kill one at 1000 yards. I'm not saying I do that. But I can appreciate that. But it's the reason I use a crossbow for archery season. I realize it's much much much easier than using a bow. But I'm not interested in hunting deer like a caveman. I've done that all before. Don't get me wrong. All the cartridges are impressive. A matchlock rifle is still an impressive powerful thing to behold. But these cartridges are lacking over 100 years of improvements and evolution. But I know what you mean. For some reason I've fallen in love with cap and ball revolver's. I hunt deer with a couple of them. My Remington replica 44 black powder revolver is more powerful than the modern Wilson combat 45 acp that I carry concealed every day. With it's fixed barrel and long sight radius it's more accurate as well. Basically mankind became masters of our world with the invention of the spear. And we just been developing better ways of throwing that spear for the last several thousand years. Spears evolved into bullets and when you compare cartridge to cartridge you might notice that a 7 mm Mauser from 100 plus years ago can be sighted to hit 3 inches high at 100 yards. This will allow you to hit a deer sized animal by aiming directly at the animal. If you look at some of the most advance, flat shooting cartridges like the 7mm Remington Magnum (I know that it's around 60 years old and I would use 7 nosler as an example instead but I'm not really that familiar with it but I do know that it's not that much better than any other 7 mm magnum) but my point the fastest cartridges available today won't let you hold dead on a deer past maybe 325 yards approximately. I'm often amused when people talk about how handgun bullet design has advanced to the point that 9mm is equal to 45 acp because of hollow point design. Now image using a slingshot. The hollow point was never developed for the slingshot because it's not needed. Shooting living things with metal objects that are traveling 500 feet per second compared to 4000 feet per second has more to do with the distance you can hit the animal rather than the lethality of the projectile. Please don't think that I'm directing this comment to the original poster. I'm just making my opinionated comment that deal with the same subject. I once believed that full metal jacketed bullets weren't nearly as lethal as expanding bullets. Then one day I wounded a deer with a soft point bullet and discovered that all the ammo I had was fmj ammunition. It was during an ammunition shortage and I couldn't find any ammunition. So I hunted down my wounded deer and shot it with a fmj ball round. What I've learned is if you shoot them with a projectile and it penetrates their vital organs they die quickly. If you penetrate their nonvital organs they die slowly or they heal and survive. Then there are things like a sucking chest wound that are instances where vital organs aren't hit but are still lethal.
@@brianwilson4861 you took that way more serious than I meant it. I don't physically compare it to those others. I'm saying it's stood the test time. Like those 2 rifles have. While ballistically others are superior, those 3 calibers still get it done. Lmao
@@brianwilson4861 I respectfully disagree with most of what you have said. When you talk about the 7mm's their is a easy explanation as to why they can only advance so far with flat shooting. A top of the line 7mm like the new 7mm prc has a higher BC than a 7mm mouser. The big point is you can only make them go so fast, hence why they can only shoot flat for so long. Gravity and physics are the same for them both. There are cartridges from over 100 years ago that still are top of the cake today, for the easiest reference look at the 30-06. That was made in 1906, and they have built numerous cartridges off of that design and almost 100 years ago as well with some, than you have one of my favorites the 220 swift, that is still the fastest production cartridge to date around 4250-4500fps. And lastly, the 9mm was proven to be more affective because of its speed.... not because of hollow points, 45acp has and had hollow points just the same. So when you say fmj is just the same or just as lethal I would not say that is true, hence all hunting rounds are either soft point or hollow point or some type of expanding bullet, it's just a matter of how much they expand and how far into the tissue they start to expand. A soft point and a fmj are not the same at all. And same as you this is my opinion, it is stated around facts but just a friendly banter..
When I hear .35 Remington, I always think of the vintage tin sign that advertised for the Remington Autoloading Rifle. It's the one with Phillip Goodwin's painting depicting a guy facing off against a grizzly bear while standing near the edge of a cliff.
My brothers Boy Scout Handbook, early Sixties vintage, had adds in the back. (I guess these companies supported the publication of the handbook) They had a .22 rifle add. I cannot remember if it was from Winchester or Remington. The photo showed a father & son in the woods holding the rifles that were being advertised. They were both wearing tuxedos! I love the cultural images of that time that were unrealistic & basically corny.
I absolutely love my 336cs 35Rems. I have never in 30yrs had a deer or hog run off on me. Will always be my go to in the GA deer woods and can't wait for the new Ruger/Marlin 336...great video Ron!
My dad gave me his Marlin 336 last year, i was touched and i said whats up pop you done hunting? Hes in his 70s now and i could understand if he didnt want to go out anymore. He looked at me and said " You shittin me?, Hell no i just bought a new .308 so i figured id give you the old brush gun" 😅 love ya pop
My first deer rifle was a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington that I bought in 1966. Over the years,I've owned around 20 rifles in 35 Remington. Today, at 72 years old, I own 2 different model 336s in 35 Remington and also a Remington 760 in 35 Remington. I reload, and it's still my favorite deer round.
I have a 760 in .35 Rem that my dad passed on to me. It wasn't the first he had (that one was stolen) but he was able to find a replacement, even if it didn't have the nicer stocks of his first one. Those 760s put a *bunch* of deer into our freezers. He also had a 336 in .35Rem the one of my brothers has and my other brother bought his own 336 in .35Rem.
@@iamnoone. if you go online you can find Winchester 200 grain power points for around 50 bucks a box. Not cheap but it's ammo readily available right now. Try Bud's. Good luck.
Excellent video looking at the difference among the cartridges. Explained very well. When I was growing up, my best friend’s dad was quite a deer hunter. At that time, mid-1950s to late 1960s, whitetail deer were not very plentiful in our part of north central Missouri. But this gentleman killed a deer every year. He was more of a meat hunter than a buck hunter. He did kill a couple of nice bucks through the years. I thought he had a Winchester or a Marlin lever action .30/30 but when I asked him to show it to me, it was a Remington 760 in a caliber as a teenage hunter that I was not familiar with, the .35 Remington. As the years progressed, I had the opportunity to hunt with this gentleman several times. My friend didn’t like to hunt and my dad had decided he wasn’t going to hunt after his experience in Europe during WWII. Dad arranged for a couple of his friends to be my hunting mentors. Thus was born a lifelong relationship with these gentlemen. I was very fortunate. Several years later, I ask my mentor if he still had his rifle. He said yes but he hadn’t hunted in quite a long time. I didn’t think much about at the time but I had a surprise in store. I had moved from my hometown several years before but still got back to see my parents. On one trip home, my mother told me there was a present from a friend in the closet. When I looked in the closet, there was my mentor’s rifle, in his original 1950’s case and several vintage boxes of both Winchester and Remington .35 Remington ammo! I was stunned.😅 I called and thanked my mentor for the gift. He said he wanted for someone to have it that would take care of it. He’s gone now but that 760 has become the most prized firearm that I own. Great memories of the .35 Remington.
My Uncle carried a Remington XP-100 years ago due to the fact that in June before deer season he severely broke his leg. He couldn't walk far and carrying a rifle was out. The XP-100 saved his deer season that year,
If memory serves after forty-some years, the .35 Remington was my dear, late FIL's favorite deer cartridge. He lived in northern VT, and I believe that he used a Remington pump gun chambered for that round.
A timely subject. I just got home with 2 boxes of .35 Remington 200 gr Core-Lokt ammo. Several of us have been looking for some for a long time and this will be shared. I have other rifles but like the Marlin 336 in the woods. I filled my tag with it this past fall using 150 gr Core-Lokt loads I had on hand. I hope the .35 cartridge stays around for a long time to come.
It will as long as firearms continue to be made chambered in it, but may not ever be on a popular level it once was unless demand really increases for it so ammo manufacturers take notice.
@@toddk1377 I totally agree. I hate to even mention what I paid for two boxes of ammo, but there were 3 of us looking for some. I’ll give you a hint; bye bye Benjamin. I have dies to reload for it, but not much brass. I think I have enough to keep us shooting for a while.
@@RamTahoe , I got hit for $50.00 per box plus tax. I hate to cough up that much but have learned to buy it when I find it, especially with less common calibers. I paid about the same for a box of .44-40 a few years ago and wish I had bought both boxes that they had. I haven’t seen any since. I gave one box of the .35 Rem. to my brother as a birthday present.
@David Zakrzewicz I'm actually sitting on 200rnds 😁 I have 100 of 200gr Hornaday Lever Evolution and a mix of 150 and 200 gr Remington Core Lokt. I couldn't handle not being able to shoot that gun so I'll deal with the sore wallet when I have to
Tell me if this sounds familiar. Your family has been hunting woods for generations. Great grandad’s antiquated lever gun has been sitting in the closet for a couple of decades unused. You fall for the flash in the pan marketing. Then fall for it again. Then go through scopes. After several thousand dollars and ten years, you finally figure out that grandpa had it right all along with his big lever and a Williams peep sight.
My first FIL gifted me a 336c in 35 Remington that I had borrowed from him. It was the first deer rifle that owned. He always treated me as a son. I’ve taken a lot of white tails with it as has my sons, my brother and even his son. That rifle holds a lot value. Even more sentimental value. The amount of “new and improved” or “modern” calibers coming out lately has muddied the water as far as what really works, and unfortunately drives up the costs of ammo as manufacturers try to keep up. The 35 has proven its value and needs no replacement.
I bush hogged some property for an old man. He said he didn't have the money to pay me. He asked if I would trade mowing his property for an old Winchester rifle. I said I'd have to look at his rifles. To my amazement, it was a model 70 Winchester, chambered in .35 Remington. I took the rifle, I later found out Winchester only made 379 mod 70 in .35 Rem. I've been offered $7.500 for the rifle, it shoots tiny groups with Rem. factory 150 grain ammo. The stock is beautify grained walnut. Definitely a keeper.
That is awesome Dude, I never knew that Winchester made a model 70, 35 Remington. I have a 7 mm Remington, mag 3006 and 270 all in the model 70. But I also have a Marlin 336 chambered in 35 Remington and I will never let that go.
I love me some .35 Remington. I have a Model 8 and it is great to shoot. I have taken elk, deer and antelope with it back home in Wyoming. I built a .358 Win with a 14-7/8” barrel on a Remington XP-100. Even ported, to know exactly when the firing pin hits the primer on that XP. It has taken Moose, elk, mule and white tail deer along with antelope. I have built 35 Whelen and .358 Norma Mags and the .35 is a way underrated caliber IMHO. Thank you and great video sir.
I have one in a BLR also. One of the most underrated rounds out there that would work well for most hunters at reasonable ranges. Last deer I shot was about 200 yards no problem.
The model 70 was chambered in 35 Rem for only two years right after WW2. They are very rare and highly sought after especially with collectors. I think the time period was 1947-until the end of 1948. There are a few on auction sites and bringing premium prices.
When I was a young man, I thought long and hard about a 35 Remington but just never pulled the trigger! I had a .243 Win that did it all plus I was poor!
My first deer rifle cartridge AND in a real JM stamped Marlin 336! Well anyway, I’m old school and I love that .35 Rem. I’m even old school enough that I switched over to my cast lead 200 grain bullets many decades ago for all my hunting needs when using the great old .35 Rem. I’ve slammed countless deer with it I my lifetime. Big ones and small. Always an extra and exit hole about the size of a tennis ball. Always a dead deer within ten or twenty yards but mostly drops dead right in their tracks. Yea I also have other calibers and tons of more power on hand if I chose to use em but in my opinion, the good ol .35 Remington is THE best deer cartridge ever unless you’re wanting to hunt from afar at extreme ranges.
My dad had a Remington model 8 chambered in 35 Remington. He called it a meat cleaver as it would damage so much meat when you shot a white tail. A few years age I acquired my own model 8. I have been able to secure ammo from a local gun store. They told me that they have several customers that have hand guns chambered in 35 Remington. I could not imagine shooting that round in a handgun.
Thanks for finally doing a video on the 35! I cut my teeth in the deer woods with this round in the 336. I've always loved the 35, and it came with me back in the woods last year. Something romantic about that old girl.
My first deer rifle. 30 06. Bro got his grampas 35 rem. 7 inch alder at 100 yards. Mine cut a big washer from front. A 1 inch hole behind. His 35 dimpled the front. But blew out the back half wide open. 200 grain bear stopper! Wow! Never forgot that 35!
Can't forget the Thompson Center Contender and the H&R Handi rifles we're also chambered in 35 Remington. Additionally, it was not too uncommon to build hunting rifles on small ring Mauser rifle actions
I started using a Contender in 35 for whitetail 25+ years ago and a 336 in recent years due hunting regulations allowing for it in my state. It's a classic that works. Out to 150 yards It's my go to when deer season arrives.
Great round, I have the 35 rem Henry absolutely love the Henry's being from northern Wi. Every year during hunting season,I will take long walks and my gun of choice is my grandpas 32 rem. It fits my hand and comes up at a perfect poi every time. Tradition is something we must keep alive.The 35 Rem is awsome. Keep up the great content Ron.
Thanks for this one Ron, I'm a certified levergun nerd! I have a 336 in 35 Remington as well as 30-30, a Pre-64 Model 94 in 32 Special and a BLR in .358 as well as a Pre-64 Model 70 converted to 35 Whelen, so I guess I'm a .358 nerd as well. I've shot deer with all these rifles (and an elk with the .358) other than the Whelen and they all kill way out of proportion to the energy and velocity levels. But there is a little added "smack" when they are hit with any of the 35s. Great video and I enjoy seeing the older cartridges get a little love!
To be fair in these comparisons I feel that you should have used the Hornady lever evolution ballistics for the 35 rem. Because of that having the pointed tip and better ballistic coefficient like the others you compared the 35 rem too. Also the Hornady appears to be the most readily accessible ammo in my local market anyways.
You sure covered the 35 rem well ! I have been pulling the old 35 rem 336 marlin out of the gun vault every few years for black bear hunts, and big pigs over 300 pounds for the past 25 years and has done outstanding job! seems like the heavy slow chunk of lead is the ticket up close. much milder recoil than mule kicking 45-70 govt. handy slab side marlin is a real pleasure to hunt with. ammo is hard to get and now very expensive, thank god I save my brass for 40 years. long live the 35 rem
I find it ironic that apparently the only thing keeping Remington interested in loading the old 35 Rem is the cartridge they've introduced to arguably replace it; the 360 BHMR. I saw a brief interview from Shot Show where a Remington representative said that because the 360 BHMR and 35 Rem use the same bullets, the introduction of the 360 means they're also going to be making more 35 Rem.
1960 model 336 35. Hunt in the heavy woods of PA. Reaches out to 100 yards and is accurate. Have taken many nice deer over the years. Still use it and will be carrying it in a few weeks up in Tioga County.
Spent quite a bit for a n.i.b 1979 production 760 in .35 Remington. Good power, accurate, modest recoil and forever barrel life. Being able to effectively use cast bullets in full power loads is a serious advantage. No flies on the .35...
My first rifle was a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. I've taken more Whitetail with it than the rest of my guns combined due to hunting in Northern Minnesota with average shot of 40ish yards due to woods. Still have it though I've not hunted with it in years.
When I was younger I dismissed the old 35 Remington as inferior to more powerful bolt action type cartridges. Now that I have more experience with a wide range of rifle types I definitely appreciate the 35 Remington and other similar cartridges. I bought a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington several years back and I was amazed at how hard it hit deer at woods ranges. I've killed 4 deer from 45 to a bit over 100 yards using bullets I cast and load myself and it leaves nothing to be desired. I cast a 200 grain flat nose bullet using an Accurate brand mold (36-200A) over a charge of either IMR 4320 or H4895 - both give about 2,050 ft/sec. When you hear the loud THUMP of those bullets hit a deer, you know you are going to put some venison in the freezer. I try to hunt in places where I won't have shots over 150 yards and really desire no more than 100. Within that range for deer hunting there is nothing better. Another plus with the 35 Remington is that most rifles you will see nowadays are going to be lever actions that are light weight and easy to carry, fast to the shoulder and accurate enough for the job at hand. I've reached the point where I am leaving my more bulky bolt actions behind at the house more and more on those cold Fall mornings when headed out to the deer stand.
Been passing on a Traditions in 35 Rem due to the lack of ammo availability. Certainly is more than adequate for all the game I am likely to see in my woods
Spend a few hundred bucks on a reloading kit, if your not going through piles of plinking ammo then a basic press is a great option. Companies like Hammer Bullets in Montana would have no issue getting you the bullets you need, they cnc them so whipping up oddball sizes is as easy a few buttons. The brass may be a bit more difficult to find but if your not plinking with it all the time a few hundred brass would probably outlast you.
I have a CVA Scout in .35 Remington and that has become my favorite hunting rifle. Deadly accurate and always a one shot kill. I got 2 nice doe last year with it and was able to drop them both within seconds of each other. Love the cartridge, hate that it has become so difficult to find it.
I use a Remington model 8 in .35 Remington for deer. Handloaded with a 200 grain Hornady polymer tipped bullet over a max powder charge. It's effect is impressive. Drops deer like a 12 gauge slug but doesn't ruin nearly as much meat. Great cartridge as far as I'm concerned.
Mr. Spooner, you are my favorite gun nut( no offense) and I truly love watching your videos! Your hooks are the best around, such as " is the .308win dead" and things like that, at one time you grabbed me with words like that! Your easy going way and the incredible information is so valuable, I've been a fan for years, please continue your great work! When you speak of new rounds, I stay away because I was burned by Winchester .375win, it was 10% better than the 30.30win yet after they stopped making the .250grain round, I was upset because that is why I bought it! Always watch out for new ones, if they fail commercially your out in the cold! You're the best Mr. Spooner!
Marlin 336 in 35rem is my go to rifle for elk and black bear in the thick woods of Arizona and Idaho using the 200gr round nose. I load .357 180gr xtp for my mule deer in the sage brush and thick woods in Idaho. I've moved up to Alaska and that old Marlin is here with me waiting to take the bigger bears up here with it! Don't get hung up on paper ballistics! The 35Rem is an absolute sledge hammer on game! The most prolific brown bear hunter ever in Alaska used a 35Rem!
I have been hunting with my Marlin 336 since the early 80's and have never had issue with the rifle or cartridge. I have never had a deer run more then 10-15yds after the shot. Perfect rifle and cartridge for here in Vermont.
I am originally from the Upper UP of MI and can tell you in the woods the 35 rem in 336 Marlin is the cats meow on deer. And I am a 3006 and 308 win guy.
I’ve used the 35 Remington 200 gr. bullet on my biggest northeastern buck ever. Buck was 260 on the hoof, dead on arrival after 10 paces blood everywhere! N a lot of white tails In thick brush I’ll take my Marlin 336 in 35 rem spitting out a big heavy bullet. I do believe rounded bullets traveling at lower speeds deflect less off target then fast light point bullets. Throw a bowling ball into the woods then throw a a fast dart n see which deflects less ! However, I prefer a quick handling rifle in brush not a stone sheep 270 model 70 with a long tube !!
I had the old Remington Model 81 Woods master in 35 Remington. That was one heck of a gun and I liked it way more than my lever action in 35 Remington. It was accurate and shot really fast. I traded a Remington model 710 in 270 for it and that was the best trade I ever made. Only thing it needed was a new hammer spring and a gunsmith fixed that quick and cheap. My only regret was selling it to give my dad money when he filed for disability so he can make his house payment. I sold that gun for $700 to an older guy in his 50's who was looking for one for years and if anything, I'm glad it went to a good owner who the last I saw, still uses it. Since then I've moved away from the 35 and went to the 30-30 and 350 Legend. At the time 30-30 was cheaper and plentiful, but now not so much, but the 350 remains cheap and plentiful plus I get to use my AR for it, so that's a plus, and an extra plus because it's a middle finger to the anti assault weapon crowd who say you can't hunt with an AR 🤷. I've taken a deer with both the 35 and 30-30 as well as wild boar and they both did great, so I never really noticed a difference that was enough difference to make a difference, but I have yet to harvest a deer with the 350 but hopefully this year that will change!
Great talk. I’m hoping to see a resurgence in the 35 Remington in ammo and reloading components. I last year inherited my grandfathers and plan to make it my primary hunting rifle for years to come. So I hope I can find ammo to feed it. 336 in either caliber is hard to beat.
@danielback3236 Let me encourage you, when you find the ammo, build a stockpile of it and keep it moisture controlled. As the round continues to fade, it's only going to become harder and harder to acquire as supply ebbs and flows. If you want to shoot it/carry it far out into the future, or pass it down, having rounds to go with it adds so much more to having it around. I still pull inherited rifles out of the safe from time to time and carry it for old time's sake or target a handful of rounds. It's always nice cleaning them afterward too, going down memory lane reflecting on your granddad's stories, and maybe even your own. I'm inheriting a Marlin 336A in 35Rem from an uncle. I recently found some ammo and now I'm buying a box when I can... hoping to build a minimum of 100rds before the shelves dry up again!
If you can afford to reload it would be worth it for this cartridge. Certain components can be hard to find at times and the bullet selection has dropped off recently in favor of more popular calibers but you can still find them if you look hard enough. With Remington coming out with the new 360 Buckhammer I'm hoping that will be successful enough to justify bullet makers producing 35 caliber bullets again at a reasonable pace.
@@Launchpad_McQuack_Is_A_Chad Indeed! Ron spiked my curiosity about this new cartridge! I also thought it was helpful that Ron mentioned using .357 bullets for reloading. Depending on grain weight, of course, the ballistics will change some, but it adds to the reloading resource pool. I'm really curious to see what this 360 Buckhammer is all about! I got into 350 Legend simply because I liked the name. It's highly redundant in my personal collection and serves no real purpose, but sometimes a guy just wants to experience it for himself. I mean, between 30-30, 32 win, 35 Rem, and 20ga, I'm not sure I need anything more for shorter range hunting... lol... but "legend"... it's just cool. So, bring on the "Buckhammer"... I'm hoping it will be something closer to the .358win.
@@kennethgoin628 I never went for the 350 Legend. Thought is was kind of gimmicky. I hunt with a Henry 45.70 in my straight wall only state which obviously gets the job done. I think its great that someone is coming out with a new "woods cartridge" especially in todays world where everybody is chasing velocity with magnums. I do love the 35 calibers and wish they got more love. I have two 35 Rem., a Win. 1895 in 35 Winchester which is fun to reload for, and a 9x63 Mauser which is basically a 35 Whelen ballistically. IMHO I think the 358 Win. and 35 Whelen are criminally underrated.
@@Launchpad_McQuack_Is_A_Chad Years ago, I worked in the Sporting Goods Dept. of a regional chain, and I had a fella come in looking for something "different" to take elk hunting. In all honesty, I didn't know squat about elk hunting at the time, but I had a ballistics chart and a supplier catalog to page through. Turns out, this guy had won a contest and had a voucher up to "x" hundred dollars. So, after kicking thoughts and info around for a good 45min., this guy picked a Remington 7400 in 35 Whelen. I was there the day it came in and happened to be the one who handed it over. It was unique alright, and many of us wondered about the effective range, but he was excited. Same guy returned months later, and we got to jabber-jawing over the gun counter about that gun. Said he didn't like the recoil and he never got close enough to an elk to take a poke, but it was "pretty" so it was going to sit on his wall as a trophy/conversation piece. Never saw one before, never seen one since, but I have to wonder if the rarity of that gun makes it collectible. I'm not sure if the 750 lineups still included that round as an option. I would agree, in terms of purpose and performance that the 350 Legend doesn't bring much to the table. It is a shorter cartridge than a 30-30 with very similar ballistics, but it is certainly chambered in more bolt action rifles than 30-30 ever thought of being, and 30-30 is unavailable in AR platforms. Not that this last point has any bearing with me, I'm strongly old school. The only AR I have is in 5.56mm, fitted with IR optics for night hunting predators in WI... and looking scary! lol But I digress, and repeat, I just liked the name of 350 Legend. Whether or not I keep it, well... just waiting for the snow to go to see if I like the way it shoots. I did find some videos of the 360 Buck Hammer and it will have a lot more snort than the 350 Legend, so there's a good chance I'll end up with one sooner or later. While straight wall is not a requirement anywhere in my state, I still like the nostalgia of straight wall cartridges. Lever actions still have a very special place in my heart. The way they look, function, their historical significance... I just love 'em! Happy Shooting!
Winchester did sell a few model 70 bolt action guns in 35Rem after 1954 and is the rarest one made , this is from the Winchester book by George Madis last copyright is 1985. It's a 1of 1000 book that I have
@@javitl7382 there's collectors out there that would fill your pockets with money for a model 70 in the 35 Remington very rare chambering for the model 70 win
I have a 1974 marlin 336 lever action in 35 remington. It has the JM stamp on it. I found that federal power shok shoots very well out of it. Out of alot of deer taken over the years i have lost one. My favorite woods rifle by far and away!
The 35 Rem is still relatively common in my state of WI. I mostly see them in a Marlin 336 . I just worked on 2 of them for a freind of mine a few weeks ago. It's an excellent deer stopper out to 100 yds (knocks deer down quicker than a 30-30) and still effective out to 150+ yds. 35 caliber bullets impact more shock and create a larger wound than smaller caliber bullets at shorter ranges. A couple of other really good 35 cal cartridges are the 350 Rem Mag and the 358 Norma Mag. I have 1 of each and they pack a whole lot more horsepower than the 358 Win . The 358 Win is a great cartridge but the 350 Rem Mag and 358 Norma Mag are much more powerful but with relatively light recoil condiering the power they produce
This is a great video . I appreciate the comparisons . I took a spike once at about 40 yds with a Remington pump that hadn't been shot in quite awhile . It belonged to my late father in law. One shot right behind the shoulder . He ran about 30 yds and crumpled up .
@@3vo408 I had one of the early BB 94's in 356. Could never get my handloads to shoot as well as factory ammo. I got rid of the rifle after 4 or 5 years.
@Boomstick McNugget Sometimes I regret selling my .356 as I had a lot of reloading components for it. Today the ammo is nowhere to be found although Winchester list's a 200 grain load. Love my 35 Rem though and I have a nice supply of 220 gr Speer bullets for it.
I take my circa 1912 Remington Model 8 in 35 Rem. deer hunting every year. I've found that most of the factory loaded 35 Rem doesn't come close to 2100 MV. Usually below 2000. If you reload with the 200 grain FTX you can really improve the ballistics and terminal performance of the cartridge. Those bullets are really soft and expand well at low velocities. Every deer I have shot have been complete pass throughs and had massive internal wounding. A blind man could follow the blood trail if they ever run which is seldom if you do your part. The 180 grain Speer FN is a good performer as well.
Don’t have to sell me on it! I have a model 8 & 336, which within 175-200 yrds, would do ANYTHING in the Texas thicket/hill country! Love modern stuff too, but these cartridges were around so many years for a reason. 😊
I live in Pennsylvania. Pa has a lot of hunters, centerfire rifles are legal for big game in most of the state except autoloading/ semi-automatic rifles. Thus, lever action and pump action rifles have traditionally been extremely popular. I know 2 friends who have, and still occasionally hunt with, old rifles in .35 REM that belonged to their grandfathers. At 40-100 yards those .35s kill deer very cleanly, but don’t seem to damage as much meat as faster cartridges like the .30-06, .308, or .270.
Because you did this post and because so many of us revere your knowledge and experience the popularity of the .35 Rem will automatically rise to a new level. I also believe the introduction of the new Buck Hammer will increase the awareness of the .35 Rem. The .350 Legend is a bolt and AR platform so it didn't raise awareness of the .35's of old. I do love the .35 Rem and the .358 Win in model 99 Savages and model 88 Winchesters. I know I'm going to love the new Remington BHMR, too. You made my day.
I absolutely love the 35 Remington. I have 4 rifles chambered for it. One of the 4 is a Tikka T3. Yep that's right , put it together myself with an aftermarket barrel. It is my ground hunting and woods rifle and wears a 1.5 -5 power scope.
Capitan Frank Hamer used a Remington model 8. A gun that is mostly known for being chambered in .35 Remington, but he preferred .25 Remington. Thanks for the video, .35 doesn't get enough love. I adore my Remington M8 and Marlin leaver. Since finding the .35 Rem about 15 years ago my .30-30s have mostly gathered dust.
I've used the 336 in .35 Remington as my saddle gun for decades. I believe it's a 1953 or 1954, steel sights only (for close up work, when need be, so to speak). The walnut is as pretty a stock as they come, beautifully burled, and believe it or not, she's in near mint condition still.
I have a short action Rem 700 that came to me as a shot out 308. I had my gunsmith put a 358 Ackley Winchester barrel on it. It is one of my favs in my collection. I also have a Contender 14" 35 Rem barrel that is one of my fav deer sniping rigs.
Here in WV the 35 Rem is just an awesome round that has taken more Whitetail deer and Black Bear over the years. My go to is a 336 and has taken many Deer that didn't go a step. I've owned several rifles but this one 35 goes out every season and gets the job done.
Great video I have witnessed black bear shot with .35 Rem and .35 Whelen both kill them dead but the knock down power of a .35 rem doesn’t even touch its larger cousin. Whelen for the win
I had a Marlin and TC Contender barrel in .35 REM. Its a light recoiling round, a benefit IMO, and really performed well in the Contender's 14-inch barrel. I liked the .35 REM more than the .357 Herritt as the Herritt rounds were hand-loading propositions.
Mr Spomer, I would love to see you shoot, handle, talk about Remington's pump action rifles... 14, 141, 760, and today's 7600. All great rifles and, in my opinion at least, highly underrated tight quarters brush guns.
Dad got me my first deer gun in 1984 when I was about 14. It was a Rem 760 in .35 rem. Many years later I have all the bigger and fancy guns. 30-06 , 270, 243, 350 legend, 300 Win mag and several others. I hunt in the thick woods of PA, and my .35 goes with me on opening day of rifle every year. Part tradition, and partly because it has never let me down out to 100 yards.....Love that gun
Awesome story, especially keeping with the tradition!
Same, I bring my grandpa's old marlin rifle in .30-30 out to keep his memory alive, one notch in the stock for every deer it dropped over the past 80 years. Kinda feel weird carving the stock because replaced it with one he made himself out of some korean red elm he brought back from the war.
*Also in Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvanians seem to like the 35. So I guess that includes me!!
@@pensnut08 Yep NW Pa here been wanting one but hard to find get picked up ASAP
Im glad Henry brought out a 35 rem. Im old school. Wool and lever guns. I was born 100 years too late.
My local gun store here in florida still gets the remington corelokt and hornady. Four boxes of each every two months, and they sell it for only $39.99
Didn't know Henry was making it. Henry used to be affordable not anymore
I've been hunting with a 35 Remington for 35 years. My favorite cartridge. Never let me down deer hunting
Ditto!
and with the old standby Remington corelock bullet
35 Remington is mighty fine. It absolutely will anchor an old buck really quick. It performs better than what the ballistic charts would make you believe. Buffalo Bore makes a great round for the 35. I am proud to see it getting some love.
I'm learning that Buffalo Bore makes some really great cartridge options/loads! They can be a little pricey, but they make some serious rounds! I'll have to keep an eye out for their 35 Rem offering. Learning what I've learned, I would LOVE to see what they offer.
It and the 30/30. I compare em to a 38 special. The ballistics make no sense to how effective it really is
@@adamallison3685 The 38 special is 357 magnum on fentanyl. Why would you compare the 30-30 Winchester and the 35 Remington to 38 special? They all get the job done but most cartridges get the job done. When you consider what a cartridge actually does they all perform like cartridges did in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Which is they worked great. But now we've advanced and most people want to shoot deer from the warmth of their truck from a public road and they expect to be able to kill one at 1000 yards. I'm not saying I do that. But I can appreciate that. But it's the reason I use a crossbow for archery season. I realize it's much much much easier than using a bow. But I'm not interested in hunting deer like a caveman. I've done that all before. Don't get me wrong. All the cartridges are impressive. A matchlock rifle is still an impressive powerful thing to behold. But these cartridges are lacking over 100 years of improvements and evolution. But I know what you mean. For some reason I've fallen in love with cap and ball revolver's. I hunt deer with a couple of them. My Remington replica 44 black powder revolver is more powerful than the modern Wilson combat 45 acp that I carry concealed every day. With it's fixed barrel and long sight radius it's more accurate as well. Basically mankind became masters of our world with the invention of the spear. And we just been developing better ways of throwing that spear for the last several thousand years. Spears evolved into bullets and when you compare cartridge to cartridge you might notice that a 7 mm Mauser from 100 plus years ago can be sighted to hit 3 inches high at 100 yards. This will allow you to hit a deer sized animal by aiming directly at the animal. If you look at some of the most advance, flat shooting cartridges like the 7mm Remington Magnum (I know that it's around 60 years old and I would use 7 nosler as an example instead but I'm not really that familiar with it but I do know that it's not that much better than any other 7 mm magnum) but my point the fastest cartridges available today won't let you hold dead on a deer past maybe 325 yards approximately. I'm often amused when people talk about how handgun bullet design has advanced to the point that 9mm is equal to 45 acp because of hollow point design. Now image using a slingshot. The hollow point was never developed for the slingshot because it's not needed. Shooting living things with metal objects that are traveling 500 feet per second compared to 4000 feet per second has more to do with the distance you can hit the animal rather than the lethality of the projectile. Please don't think that I'm directing this comment to the original poster. I'm just making my opinionated comment that deal with the same subject. I once believed that full metal jacketed bullets weren't nearly as lethal as expanding bullets. Then one day I wounded a deer with a soft point bullet and discovered that all the ammo I had was fmj ammunition. It was during an ammunition shortage and I couldn't find any ammunition. So I hunted down my wounded deer and shot it with a fmj ball round. What I've learned is if you shoot them with a projectile and it penetrates their vital organs they die quickly. If you penetrate their nonvital organs they die slowly or they heal and survive. Then there are things like a sucking chest wound that are instances where vital organs aren't hit but are still lethal.
@@brianwilson4861 you took that way more serious than I meant it. I don't physically compare it to those others. I'm saying it's stood the test time. Like those 2 rifles have.
While ballistically others are superior, those 3 calibers still get it done. Lmao
@@brianwilson4861 I respectfully disagree with most of what you have said. When you talk about the 7mm's their is a easy explanation as to why they can only advance so far with flat shooting. A top of the line 7mm like the new 7mm prc has a higher BC than a 7mm mouser. The big point is you can only make them go so fast, hence why they can only shoot flat for so long. Gravity and physics are the same for them both. There are cartridges from over 100 years ago that still are top of the cake today, for the easiest reference look at the 30-06. That was made in 1906, and they have built numerous cartridges off of that design and almost 100 years ago as well with some, than you have one of my favorites the 220 swift, that is still the fastest production cartridge to date around 4250-4500fps. And lastly, the 9mm was proven to be more affective because of its speed.... not because of hollow points, 45acp has and had hollow points just the same. So when you say fmj is just the same or just as lethal I would not say that is true, hence all hunting rounds are either soft point or hollow point or some type of expanding bullet, it's just a matter of how much they expand and how far into the tissue they start to expand. A soft point and a fmj are not the same at all. And same as you this is my opinion, it is stated around facts but just a friendly banter..
When I hear .35 Remington, I always think of the vintage tin sign that advertised for the Remington Autoloading Rifle. It's the one with Phillip Goodwin's painting depicting a guy facing off against a grizzly bear while standing near the edge of a cliff.
My brothers Boy Scout Handbook, early Sixties vintage, had adds in the back. (I guess these companies supported the publication of the handbook) They had a .22 rifle add. I cannot remember if it was from Winchester or Remington. The photo showed a father & son in the woods holding the rifles that were being advertised. They were both wearing tuxedos! I love the cultural images of that time that were unrealistic & basically corny.
"The Right of Way"? It's absolutely a classic!
I absolutely love my 336cs 35Rems. I have never in 30yrs had a deer or hog run off on me. Will always be my go to in the GA deer woods and can't wait for the new Ruger/Marlin 336...great video Ron!
My dad gave me his Marlin 336 last year, i was touched and i said whats up pop you done hunting? Hes in his 70s now and i could understand if he didnt want to go out anymore. He looked at me and said " You shittin me?, Hell no i just bought a new .308 so i figured id give you the old brush gun" 😅 love ya pop
My first deer rifle was a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington that I bought in 1966. Over the years,I've owned around 20 rifles in 35 Remington. Today, at 72 years old, I own 2 different model 336s in 35 Remington and also a Remington 760 in 35 Remington. I reload, and it's still my favorite deer round.
I have a 760 in .35 Rem that my dad passed on to me. It wasn't the first he had (that one was stolen) but he was able to find a replacement, even if it didn't have the nicer stocks of his first one. Those 760s put a *bunch* of deer into our freezers. He also had a 336 in .35Rem the one of my brothers has and my other brother bought his own 336 in .35Rem.
My aunt has used a Remington 600 Mohawk in 35 Remington. She bought it in the 70’s and still uses it . I took a nice 8 point whitetail with it .
Thank you! I'm a 336 Marlin in 35Rem nerd. Finally found some new ammo after years of nothing. Loved the break down Spome! Keep it up!
I had the marlin and the Mossberg lever action, the marlin was better by far.
Where did you find your ammoi I too have been looking for years
I have some Hornaday Lever Evolution my buddy ordered me few years ago. Still have plenty of Remington Core Lokt tho.
Get into reloading then you can get any caliber you can dream of. I have a few rifles that they haven't made ammo for years.
@@iamnoone. if you go online you can find Winchester 200 grain power points for around 50 bucks a box. Not cheap but it's ammo readily available right now. Try Bud's. Good luck.
Excellent video looking at the difference among the cartridges. Explained very well.
When I was growing up, my best friend’s dad was quite a deer hunter. At that time, mid-1950s to late 1960s, whitetail deer were not very plentiful in our part of north central Missouri. But this gentleman killed a deer every year. He was more of a meat hunter than a buck hunter. He did kill a couple of nice bucks through the years.
I thought he had a Winchester or a Marlin lever action .30/30 but when I asked him to show it to me, it was a Remington 760 in a caliber as a teenage hunter that I was not familiar with, the .35 Remington.
As the years progressed, I had the opportunity to hunt with this gentleman several times. My friend didn’t like to hunt and my dad had decided he wasn’t going to hunt after his experience in Europe during WWII. Dad arranged for a couple of his friends to be my hunting mentors. Thus was born a lifelong relationship with these gentlemen. I was very fortunate.
Several years later, I ask my mentor if he still had his rifle. He said yes but he hadn’t hunted in quite a long time. I didn’t think much about at the time but I had a surprise in store.
I had moved from my hometown several years before but still got back to see my parents. On one trip home, my mother told me there was a present from a friend in the closet. When I looked in the closet, there was my mentor’s rifle, in his original 1950’s case and several vintage boxes of both Winchester and Remington .35 Remington ammo! I was stunned.😅
I called and thanked my mentor for the gift. He said he wanted for someone to have it that would take care of it.
He’s gone now but that 760 has become the most prized firearm that I own. Great memories of the .35 Remington.
Wow... The old 35 Remington!.... I have an absolutely minty early 336 in this cartridge.... What a classic!....
My Uncle carried a Remington XP-100 years ago due to the fact that in June before deer season he severely broke his leg. He couldn't walk far and carrying a rifle was out. The XP-100 saved his deer season that year,
I love hunting with the .35 Remington!!!
Fantastic cartridge, very flexible cartridge, alot more than people often give it credit for.
Had a Remington Model 8 in 35 Remington and an extra 32 Remington barrel. Fun to shoot.
You are to be envied!
If memory serves after forty-some years, the .35 Remington was my dear, late FIL's favorite deer cartridge. He lived in northern VT, and I believe that he used a Remington pump gun chambered for that round.
Glad to say my father has passed down his 35 Remington 336 Marlin to me and I love it!
Same here
I’m a fan of the 35’s. My wife took a beautiful caribou at about 300 yards with an encore in 358 Winchester. It was very impressive performance.
A timely subject. I just got home with 2 boxes of .35 Remington 200 gr Core-Lokt ammo. Several of us have been looking for some for a long time and this will be shared. I have other rifles but like the Marlin 336 in the woods. I filled my tag with it this past fall using 150 gr Core-Lokt loads I had on hand. I hope the .35 cartridge stays around for a long time to come.
It will as long as firearms continue to be made chambered in it, but may not ever be on a popular level it once was unless demand really increases for it so ammo manufacturers take notice.
@@toddk1377 I totally agree. I hate to even mention what I paid for two boxes of ammo, but there were 3 of us looking for some. I’ll give you a hint; bye bye Benjamin. I have dies to reload for it, but not much brass. I think I have enough to keep us shooting for a while.
@David Zakrzewicz last box I bought was $60 😖
@@RamTahoe , I got hit for $50.00 per box plus tax. I hate to cough up that much but have learned to buy it when I find it, especially with less common calibers. I paid about the same for a box of .44-40 a few years ago and wish I had bought both boxes that they had. I haven’t seen any since. I gave one box of the .35 Rem. to my brother as a birthday present.
@David Zakrzewicz I'm actually sitting on 200rnds 😁 I have 100 of 200gr Hornaday Lever Evolution and a mix of 150 and 200 gr Remington Core Lokt. I couldn't handle not being able to shoot that gun so I'll deal with the sore wallet when I have to
Years ago I worked with some old boys from Canada who swore by their 35,s
Thanks!
Tell me if this sounds familiar. Your family has been hunting woods for generations. Great grandad’s antiquated lever gun has been sitting in the closet for a couple of decades unused. You fall for the flash in the pan marketing. Then fall for it again. Then go through scopes. After several thousand dollars and ten years, you finally figure out that grandpa had it right all along with his big lever and a Williams peep sight.
🤠My First Leveraction Rifle/Deer Rifle '1965 JM Marlin 336 35rem' ❤ It! ❤ Leveraction Rifles Period! 3 Marlins 30-30win,35 rem,44spl/44mag & 2 Rossi's A Stainless 16inch Trapper R92 45lc/454casull & Rossi Rio Grande 45-70gov!
I'm a 58 yr old Maineboy who has used my 336 35 rem for ever. The advent of the levereverlution made my gun a sharpshooter out to 150 . Love my lever.
.35 Remington takes me back frosty woods and red flannel 🌲
I have a mid 50s 336 SC in .35 Rem.
Man, what a gem.
Thump thump...
My first FIL gifted me a 336c in 35 Remington that I had borrowed from him. It was the first deer rifle that owned. He always treated me as a son. I’ve taken a lot of white tails with it as has my sons, my brother and even his son. That rifle holds a lot value. Even more sentimental value.
The amount of “new and improved” or “modern” calibers coming out lately has muddied the water as far as what really works, and unfortunately drives up the costs of ammo as manufacturers try to keep up. The 35 has proven its value and needs no replacement.
My favorite in a marlin is my 356. It uses the same reloading dies as the 358. Glad to see the 35rem is still around.
I bush hogged some property for an old man. He said he didn't have the money to pay me. He asked if I would trade mowing his property for an old Winchester rifle.
I said I'd have to look at his rifles. To my amazement, it was a model 70 Winchester, chambered in .35 Remington. I took the rifle, I later found out Winchester only made 379 mod 70 in .35 Rem.
I've been offered $7.500 for the rifle, it shoots tiny groups with Rem. factory 150 grain ammo. The stock is beautify grained walnut. Definitely a keeper.
Hope you shared the wealth with the old fella. He obviously didn't know what he had.
@@tkalus5736shared what wealth? They said the rifle was a keeper, they didn't sell it
@@scotteger6271, they didn't have to sell it for it to have value.
That is awesome
Dude, I never knew that Winchester made a model 70, 35 Remington. I have a 7 mm Remington, mag 3006 and 270 all in the model 70. But I also have a Marlin 336 chambered in 35 Remington and I will never let that go.
Cut grass all summer in 1985 to buy my marlin 336CS in 35 Remington. It was my primary means of deer hunting I’ve been till about 15 years ago.
I love me some .35 Remington. I have a Model 8 and it is great to shoot. I have taken elk, deer and antelope with it back home in Wyoming. I built a .358 Win with a 14-7/8” barrel on a Remington XP-100. Even ported, to know exactly when the firing pin hits the primer on that XP. It has taken Moose, elk, mule and white tail deer along with antelope. I have built 35 Whelen and .358 Norma Mags and the .35 is a way underrated caliber IMHO.
Thank you and great video sir.
Remington got me this year, 360 is my next purchase. Hope Ruger/marlin makes one but Henry will be just fine too
That 358 win is pretty impressive for what it is.
I have a BLR pre 81 in that caliber and would not trade it for anything.
I have one in a BLR also. One of the most underrated rounds out there that would work well for most hunters at reasonable ranges. Last deer I shot was about 200 yards no problem.
Check out the 338 Federal. Even more impressive. More muzzle energy than the 7mmRM 😳
@@John_Redcorn_ Virginia Meat eater is big on that caliber.
I can't wait for you to do a head to head 360 buck hammer verus 35 Remington
The model 70 was chambered in 35 Rem for only two years right after WW2. They are very rare and highly sought after especially with collectors. I think the time period was 1947-until the end of 1948. There are a few on auction sites and bringing premium prices.
When I was a young man, I thought long and hard about a 35 Remington but just never pulled the trigger! I had a .243 Win that did it all plus I was poor!
Been there too, I stick with the 30 30 for the same reasons
My primary black bear and deer rifle. Remington 760 pump.
My first deer rifle cartridge AND in a real JM stamped Marlin 336! Well anyway, I’m old school and I love that .35 Rem. I’m even old school enough that I switched over to my cast lead 200 grain bullets many decades ago for all my hunting needs when using the great old .35 Rem. I’ve slammed countless deer with it I my lifetime. Big ones and small. Always an extra and exit hole about the size of a tennis ball. Always a dead deer within ten or twenty yards but mostly drops dead right in their tracks. Yea I also have other calibers and tons of more power on hand if I chose to use em but in my opinion, the good ol .35 Remington is THE best deer cartridge ever unless you’re wanting to hunt from afar at extreme ranges.
My dad had a Remington model 8 chambered in 35 Remington. He called it a meat cleaver as it would damage so much meat when you shot a white tail. A few years age I acquired my own model 8. I have been able to secure ammo from a local gun store. They told me that they have several customers that have hand guns chambered in 35 Remington. I could not imagine shooting that round in a handgun.
Thanks for finally doing a video on the 35! I cut my teeth in the deer woods with this round in the 336. I've always loved the 35, and it came with me back in the woods last year. Something romantic about that old girl.
My first deer rifle. 30 06. Bro got his grampas 35 rem. 7 inch alder at 100 yards. Mine cut a big washer from front. A 1 inch hole behind. His 35 dimpled the front. But blew out the back half wide open. 200 grain bear stopper! Wow! Never forgot that 35!
Just picked up a Marlin lever 35 rem. love it!
I love this round. And I love this channel.
It is extremely popular in my part of the country (Georgia)...
Can't forget the Thompson Center Contender and the H&R Handi rifles we're also chambered in 35 Remington. Additionally, it was not too uncommon to build hunting rifles on small ring Mauser rifle actions
I started using a Contender in 35 for whitetail 25+ years ago and a 336 in recent years due hunting regulations allowing for it in my state. It's a classic that works. Out to 150 yards It's my go to when deer season arrives.
Great round, I have the 35 rem Henry absolutely love the Henry's being from northern Wi. Every year during hunting season,I will take long walks and my gun of choice is my grandpas 32 rem. It fits my hand and comes up at a perfect poi every time. Tradition is something we must keep alive.The 35 Rem is awsome. Keep up the great content Ron.
That.32 rem is obsolete just like the.25and the.30 rem unless you have enough brass to reload them
Thanks for this one Ron, I'm a certified levergun nerd! I have a 336 in 35 Remington as well as 30-30, a Pre-64 Model 94 in 32 Special and a BLR in .358 as well as a Pre-64 Model 70 converted to 35 Whelen, so I guess I'm a .358 nerd as well. I've shot deer with all these rifles (and an elk with the .358) other than the Whelen and they all kill way out of proportion to the energy and velocity levels. But there is a little added "smack" when they are hit with any of the 35s. Great video and I enjoy seeing the older cartridges get a little love!
I'm stuck on 35Rem for nostalgia/sentimental reasons........I have my grandfather's Marlin 336sc. I love that gun and love that round.
To be fair in these comparisons I feel that you should have used the Hornady lever evolution ballistics for the 35 rem. Because of that having the pointed tip and better ballistic coefficient like the others you compared the 35 rem too. Also the Hornady appears to be the most readily accessible ammo in my local market anyways.
Took my first deer with a 35 Rem. Great cartridge.
You sure covered the 35 rem well ! I have been pulling the old 35 rem 336 marlin out of the gun vault every few years for black bear hunts, and big pigs over 300 pounds for the past 25 years and has done outstanding job! seems like the heavy slow chunk of lead is the ticket up close. much milder recoil than mule kicking 45-70 govt. handy slab side marlin is a real pleasure to hunt with. ammo is hard to get and now very expensive, thank god I save my brass for 40 years. long live the 35 rem
I find it ironic that apparently the only thing keeping Remington interested in loading the old 35 Rem is the cartridge they've introduced to arguably replace it; the 360 BHMR.
I saw a brief interview from Shot Show where a Remington representative said that because the 360 BHMR and 35 Rem use the same bullets, the introduction of the 360 means they're also going to be making more 35 Rem.
I sure hope Remington does start pumping out more 35rem factory loads.
My brass stocks are getting tired!
1960 model 336 35. Hunt in the heavy woods of PA. Reaches out to 100 yards and is accurate. Have taken many nice deer over the years. Still use it and will be carrying it in a few weeks up in Tioga County.
I purchased a suppressor for .35 caliber. It works on my 350 Legend, .357 mag, 9mm, and last but not least my .35 Remington.
Spent quite a bit for a n.i.b 1979 production 760 in .35 Remington.
Good power, accurate, modest recoil and forever barrel life.
Being able to effectively use cast bullets in full power loads is a serious advantage.
No flies on the .35...
My first rifle was a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. I've taken more Whitetail with it than the rest of my guns combined due to hunting in Northern Minnesota with average shot of 40ish yards due to woods. Still have it though I've not hunted with it in years.
When I was younger I dismissed the old 35 Remington as inferior to more powerful bolt action type cartridges. Now that I have more experience with a wide range of rifle types I definitely appreciate the 35 Remington and other similar cartridges. I bought a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington several years back and I was amazed at how hard it hit deer at woods ranges. I've killed 4 deer from 45 to a bit over 100 yards using bullets I cast and load myself and it leaves nothing to be desired. I cast a 200 grain flat nose bullet using an Accurate brand mold (36-200A) over a charge of either IMR 4320 or H4895 - both give about 2,050 ft/sec. When you hear the loud THUMP of those bullets hit a deer, you know you are going to put some venison in the freezer. I try to hunt in places where I won't have shots over 150 yards and really desire no more than 100. Within that range for deer hunting there is nothing better. Another plus with the 35 Remington is that most rifles you will see nowadays are going to be lever actions that are light weight and easy to carry, fast to the shoulder and accurate enough for the job at hand. I've reached the point where I am leaving my more bulky bolt actions behind at the house more and more on those cold Fall mornings when headed out to the deer stand.
I've got a CVA single shot that I use for primitive firearms. It's definitely a killer. Just wish I could find ammo now.
Been passing on a Traditions in 35 Rem due to the lack of ammo availability. Certainly is more than adequate for all the game I am likely to see in my woods
Spend a few hundred bucks on a reloading kit, if your not going through piles of plinking ammo then a basic press is a great option. Companies like Hammer Bullets in Montana would have no issue getting you the bullets you need, they cnc them so whipping up oddball sizes is as easy a few buttons. The brass may be a bit more difficult to find but if your not plinking with it all the time a few hundred brass would probably outlast you.
@@jaydunbar7538 Primers are still hard to source and stupid priced. I haven't looked for the brass.
I have a CVA Scout in .35 Remington and that has become my favorite hunting rifle.
Deadly accurate and always a one shot kill.
I got 2 nice doe last year with it and was able to drop them both within seconds of each other.
Love the cartridge, hate that it has become so difficult to find it.
180 grain XTP loads in em pretty good too.
I use a Remington model 8 in .35 Remington for deer. Handloaded with a 200 grain Hornady polymer tipped bullet over a max powder charge. It's effect is impressive. Drops deer like a 12 gauge slug but doesn't ruin nearly as much meat. Great cartridge as far as I'm concerned.
Mr. Spooner, you are my favorite gun nut( no offense) and I truly love watching your videos! Your hooks are the best around, such as " is the .308win dead" and things like that, at one time you grabbed me with words like that! Your easy going way and the incredible information is so valuable, I've been a fan for years, please continue your great work! When you speak of new rounds, I stay away because I was burned by Winchester .375win, it was 10% better than the 30.30win yet after they stopped making the .250grain round, I was upset because that is why I bought it! Always watch out for new ones, if they fail commercially your out in the cold! You're the best Mr. Spooner!
Marlin 336 in 35rem is my go to rifle for elk and black bear in the thick woods of Arizona and Idaho using the 200gr round nose.
I load .357 180gr xtp for my mule deer in the sage brush and thick woods in Idaho.
I've moved up to Alaska and that old Marlin is here with me waiting to take the bigger bears up here with it!
Don't get hung up on paper ballistics!
The 35Rem is an absolute sledge hammer on game!
The most prolific brown bear hunter ever in Alaska used a 35Rem!
I have been hunting with my Marlin 336 since the early 80's and have never had issue with the rifle or cartridge. I have never had a deer run more then 10-15yds after the shot. Perfect rifle and cartridge for here in Vermont.
I am originally from the Upper UP of MI and can tell you in the woods the 35 rem in 336 Marlin is the cats meow on deer. And I am a 3006 and 308 win guy.
I’ve used the 35 Remington 200 gr. bullet on my biggest northeastern buck ever.
Buck was 260 on the hoof, dead on arrival after 10 paces blood everywhere!
N a lot of white tails
In thick brush I’ll take my Marlin 336 in 35 rem spitting out a big heavy bullet.
I do believe rounded bullets traveling at lower speeds deflect less off target then fast light point bullets.
Throw a bowling ball into the woods then throw a a fast dart n see which deflects less !
However, I prefer a quick handling rifle in brush not a stone sheep 270 model 70 with a long tube !!
I had the old Remington Model 81 Woods master in 35 Remington. That was one heck of a gun and I liked it way more than my lever action in 35 Remington. It was accurate and shot really fast. I traded a Remington model 710 in 270 for it and that was the best trade I ever made. Only thing it needed was a new hammer spring and a gunsmith fixed that quick and cheap. My only regret was selling it to give my dad money when he filed for disability so he can make his house payment. I sold that gun for $700 to an older guy in his 50's who was looking for one for years and if anything, I'm glad it went to a good owner who the last I saw, still uses it. Since then I've moved away from the 35 and went to the 30-30 and 350 Legend. At the time 30-30 was cheaper and plentiful, but now not so much, but the 350 remains cheap and plentiful plus I get to use my AR for it, so that's a plus, and an extra plus because it's a middle finger to the anti assault weapon crowd who say you can't hunt with an AR 🤷. I've taken a deer with both the 35 and 30-30 as well as wild boar and they both did great, so I never really noticed a difference that was enough difference to make a difference, but I have yet to harvest a deer with the 350 but hopefully this year that will change!
I have owned, shot, hunted with a 35 Remington since 1971, love my 35. Also in the model 14, and model 114 Remington, amazing rifle.
Great talk. I’m hoping to see a resurgence in the 35 Remington in ammo and reloading components. I last year inherited my grandfathers and plan to make it my primary hunting rifle for years to come. So I hope I can find ammo to feed it. 336 in either caliber is hard to beat.
@danielback3236 Let me encourage you, when you find the ammo, build a stockpile of it and keep it moisture controlled. As the round continues to fade, it's only going to become harder and harder to acquire as supply ebbs and flows. If you want to shoot it/carry it far out into the future, or pass it down, having rounds to go with it adds so much more to having it around. I still pull inherited rifles out of the safe from time to time and carry it for old time's sake or target a handful of rounds. It's always nice cleaning them afterward too, going down memory lane reflecting on your granddad's stories, and maybe even your own. I'm inheriting a Marlin 336A in 35Rem from an uncle. I recently found some ammo and now I'm buying a box when I can... hoping to build a minimum of 100rds before the shelves dry up again!
If you can afford to reload it would be worth it for this cartridge. Certain components can be hard to find at times and the bullet selection has dropped off recently in favor of more popular calibers but you can still find them if you look hard enough. With Remington coming out with the new 360 Buckhammer I'm hoping that will be successful enough to justify bullet makers producing 35 caliber bullets again at a reasonable pace.
@@Launchpad_McQuack_Is_A_Chad Indeed! Ron spiked my curiosity about this new cartridge! I also thought it was helpful that Ron mentioned using .357 bullets for reloading. Depending on grain weight, of course, the ballistics will change some, but it adds to the reloading resource pool. I'm really curious to see what this 360 Buckhammer is all about! I got into 350 Legend simply because I liked the name. It's highly redundant in my personal collection and serves no real purpose, but sometimes a guy just wants to experience it for himself. I mean, between 30-30, 32 win, 35 Rem, and 20ga, I'm not sure I need anything more for shorter range hunting... lol... but "legend"... it's just cool. So, bring on the "Buckhammer"... I'm hoping it will be something closer to the .358win.
@@kennethgoin628 I never went for the 350 Legend. Thought is was kind of gimmicky. I hunt with a Henry 45.70 in my straight wall only state which obviously gets the job done. I think its great that someone is coming out with a new "woods cartridge" especially in todays world where everybody is chasing velocity with magnums. I do love the 35 calibers and wish they got more love. I have two 35 Rem., a Win. 1895 in 35 Winchester which is fun to reload for, and a 9x63 Mauser which is basically a 35 Whelen ballistically. IMHO I think the 358 Win. and 35 Whelen are criminally underrated.
@@Launchpad_McQuack_Is_A_Chad Years ago, I worked in the Sporting Goods Dept. of a regional chain, and I had a fella come in looking for something "different" to take elk hunting. In all honesty, I didn't know squat about elk hunting at the time, but I had a ballistics chart and a supplier catalog to page through. Turns out, this guy had won a contest and had a voucher up to "x" hundred dollars. So, after kicking thoughts and info around for a good 45min., this guy picked a Remington 7400 in 35 Whelen. I was there the day it came in and happened to be the one who handed it over. It was unique alright, and many of us wondered about the effective range, but he was excited. Same guy returned months later, and we got to jabber-jawing over the gun counter about that gun. Said he didn't like the recoil and he never got close enough to an elk to take a poke, but it was "pretty" so it was going to sit on his wall as a trophy/conversation piece.
Never saw one before, never seen one since, but I have to wonder if the rarity of that gun makes it collectible. I'm not sure if the 750 lineups still included that round as an option.
I would agree, in terms of purpose and performance that the 350 Legend doesn't bring much to the table. It is a shorter cartridge than a 30-30 with very similar ballistics, but it is certainly chambered in more bolt action rifles than 30-30 ever thought of being, and 30-30 is unavailable in AR platforms. Not that this last point has any bearing with me, I'm strongly old school. The only AR I have is in 5.56mm, fitted with IR optics for night hunting predators in WI... and looking scary! lol But I digress, and repeat, I just liked the name of 350 Legend. Whether or not I keep it, well... just waiting for the snow to go to see if I like the way it shoots. I did find some videos of the 360 Buck Hammer and it will have a lot more snort than the 350 Legend, so there's a good chance I'll end up with one sooner or later. While straight wall is not a requirement anywhere in my state, I still like the nostalgia of straight wall cartridges. Lever actions still have a very special place in my heart. The way they look, function, their historical significance... I just love 'em!
Happy Shooting!
Winchester did sell a few model 70 bolt action guns in 35Rem after 1954 and is the rarest one made , this is from the Winchester book by George Madis last copyright is 1985. It's a 1of 1000 book that I have
They did I have one
@@javitl7382 there's collectors out there that would fill your pockets with money for a model 70 in the 35 Remington very rare chambering for the model 70 win
I have a 1974 marlin 336 lever action in 35 remington. It has the JM stamp on it. I found that federal power shok shoots very well out of it. Out of alot of deer taken over the years i have lost one. My favorite woods rifle by far and away!
Got to love a .35 and thank you for showing the .32 Win spl.
The 32 spcl was to be a transition cartridge that could be used with Black powder, 32/40 type rounds.
God smiled on the .35 Remington. Especially in the 336.
The 35 Rem is still relatively common in my state of WI. I mostly see them in a Marlin 336 . I just worked on 2 of them for a freind of mine a few weeks ago. It's an excellent deer stopper out to 100 yds (knocks deer down quicker than a 30-30) and still effective out to 150+ yds. 35 caliber bullets impact more shock and create a larger wound than smaller caliber bullets at shorter ranges. A couple of other really good 35 cal cartridges are the 350 Rem Mag and the 358 Norma Mag. I have 1 of each and they pack a whole lot more horsepower than the 358 Win . The 358 Win is a great cartridge but the 350 Rem Mag and 358 Norma Mag are much more powerful but with relatively light recoil condiering the power they produce
You forgot the 35 Whelen. Awesome round but it’s not in lever action to my knowledge.👍🇺🇸🙏🏽😎
This is a great video . I appreciate the comparisons . I took a spike once at about 40 yds with a Remington pump that hadn't been shot in quite awhile . It belonged to my late father in law. One shot right behind the shoulder . He ran about 30 yds and crumpled up .
Love those 35’s
Luv my CVA Hunter in 35 Remington. I use
Never understood why the 307 Winchester wasn't more popular, thanks Ron for another great video.
@@3vo408 I had one of the early BB 94's in 356. Could never get my handloads to shoot as well as factory ammo. I got rid of the rifle after 4 or 5 years.
@Boomstick McNugget Sometimes I regret selling my .356 as I had a lot of reloading components for it. Today the ammo is nowhere to be found although Winchester list's a 200 grain load. Love my 35 Rem though and I have a nice supply of 220 gr Speer bullets for it.
I take my circa 1912 Remington Model 8 in 35 Rem. deer hunting every year. I've found that most of the factory loaded 35 Rem doesn't come close to 2100 MV. Usually below 2000. If you reload with the 200 grain FTX you can really improve the ballistics and terminal performance of the cartridge. Those bullets are really soft and expand well at low velocities. Every deer I have shot have been complete pass throughs and had massive internal wounding. A blind man could follow the blood trail if they ever run which is seldom if you do your part. The 180 grain Speer FN is a good performer as well.
Don’t have to sell me on it!
I have a model 8 & 336, which within 175-200 yrds, would do ANYTHING in the Texas thicket/hill country! Love modern stuff too, but these cartridges were around so many years for a reason. 😊
I had the 35 Remington in a 14in Thompson Center Contender I loved it
I live in Pennsylvania. Pa has a lot of hunters, centerfire rifles are legal for big game in most of the state except autoloading/ semi-automatic rifles. Thus, lever action and pump action rifles have traditionally been extremely popular. I know 2 friends who have, and still occasionally hunt with, old rifles in .35 REM that belonged to their grandfathers. At 40-100 yards those .35s kill deer very cleanly, but don’t seem to damage as much meat as faster cartridges like the .30-06, .308, or .270.
I wish ammo wasn’t so expensive for it, the last box I bought at Cabelas was $55.00 a box. That’s crazy!!!
We used to call these "brush guns". Boy the slide action remington is a beautiful rifle.
I have a Marlin 336 in35 Remington and a Thompson Contender super 16 in 35 Remington great cartridge for dear or bear !!!
Because you did this post and because so many of us revere your knowledge and experience the popularity of the .35 Rem will automatically rise to a new level. I also believe the introduction of the new Buck Hammer will increase the awareness of the .35 Rem. The .350 Legend is a bolt and AR platform so it didn't raise awareness of the .35's of old. I do love the .35 Rem and the .358 Win in model 99 Savages and model 88 Winchesters. I know I'm going to love the new Remington BHMR, too. You made my day.
Love my 336 1950 classic 35 rem.
Thanks Ron
Good video, once again Ron!
I absolutely love the 35 Remington. I have 4 rifles chambered for it. One of the 4 is a Tikka T3. Yep that's right , put it together myself with an aftermarket barrel. It is my ground hunting and woods rifle and wears a 1.5 -5 power scope.
My first hunting rifle 35 336cs. Still got it but she is showing the years getting drug through the florida swamps.
Capitan Frank Hamer used a Remington model 8. A gun that is mostly known for being chambered in .35 Remington, but he preferred .25 Remington.
Thanks for the video, .35 doesn't get enough love. I adore my Remington M8 and Marlin leaver. Since finding the .35 Rem about 15 years ago my .30-30s have mostly gathered dust.
Bonnie & Clyde didn't like the Rem. 8 anymore than they liked Hamer.
I've used the 336 in .35 Remington as my saddle gun for decades. I believe it's a 1953 or 1954, steel sights only (for close up work, when need be, so to speak). The walnut is as pretty a stock as they come, beautifully burled, and believe it or not, she's in near mint condition still.
I always love watching your take on calibers.
I have a short action Rem 700 that came to me as a shot out 308. I had my gunsmith put a 358 Ackley Winchester barrel on it. It is one of my favs in my collection. I also have a Contender 14" 35 Rem barrel that is one of my fav deer sniping rigs.
Here in WV the 35 Rem is just an awesome round that has taken more Whitetail deer and Black Bear over the years. My go to is a 336 and has taken many Deer that didn't go a step. I've owned several rifles but this one 35 goes out every season and gets the job done.
Great video I have witnessed black bear shot with .35 Rem and .35 Whelen both kill them dead but the knock down power of a .35 rem doesn’t even touch its larger cousin. Whelen for the win
I had a Marlin and TC Contender barrel in .35 REM. Its a light recoiling round, a benefit IMO, and really performed well in the Contender's 14-inch barrel. I liked the .35 REM more than the .357 Herritt as the Herritt rounds were hand-loading propositions.
357 herritt/360 buck hammer?
Seems like that's a good comparison for Spooner to make!
Or is that all Remington did is commercialize the 357 Harriet?
I have a henry in 35 rem on order as I watch this. I hope henry gets some of these made and on dealer's shelves.
Mr Spomer, I would love to see you shoot, handle, talk about Remington's pump action rifles... 14, 141, 760, and today's 7600. All great rifles and, in my opinion at least, highly underrated tight quarters brush guns.