Vintage 12 Ton Grader for scrap value!! Can of worms or a bargain ??..
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- I saw this old Aveling Barford grader for sale on a local auction site, it hasn't had much maintenance in the last decade. It needs a lot of work, a long term project...
Some people buy a sports car with their "TH-cam money," I think this is a better choice. :)
Truth!
One thing: Your not wrong.
That will make maintaining the road easy peasy. A lot faster than the bulldozer.
Haha I have one of those little sca compressors running of a gen to run air tools at my place (no power at shed). Bloody good value little units
They are nice and light but they start to smell funny if you ignore the duty cycle and run them for more than 5 minutes with a tool on the line.
@@MartyT haha yeah but great for the money. My gen didnt like starting my big compressor.
So dry there that grading is a fire risk,, meanwhile here in Wales it’s so wet petrol won’t catch light 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Whatever it is, I’ve got one” , ha ha my shed has a few things like that too.
Red brake light assembly? Same as one on other side.
Me, why does he keep buying graders and dozers? Marty “just 6k up the driveway” Me, oh yea that.
😂 im checking through the comments to see if anyone else picked up on that!!
6Km driveway 😁 any wonder Marty needs these heavy goods 👍🏼
I certainly wouldn't be going many places if my driveway was about 3 miles. 😵 That's almost half a gallon in my stupid old dodge. 😂
Oh no man what did you do? Thing already runs n drives good. Didn't even have to coax it to start n none of the hydraulics seem to leak. Way to fancy lol
Don’t forget the free bonus feature cobwebs!
Your driveway’s going to end up being better than state highway 1
Very True
Jeeze if he lives on Otago that would be very true. state highways are a mess here. We keep finding bits of road in our potholes.
That wouldn't be hard in New Zealand lol
You bought a machine that actually runs!- standards are slipping Marty......
LOL!
Recognise those blue overalls anywhere. Bill is a legend, that grader has done my driveway a couple of times. Great content.
Well done Marty, I think the front wheels tilt either way to help with tight turns, either way I bet your the only kid on your block with one, I look forward too seeing the grader come back to life
3 Dollops the wheel tilt helps the grader go in a straight line when you are digging the blade in hard. Otherwise it will pull to one side.
@@jimmyoakeslift4374 I worked on graders for five years and didn't know that. You can also use the tilt to steer the beasts. The funniest thing to watch graders do, though, it crab walk. If you pivot the middle and turn the front wheels, the grader almost drives sideways.
A couple new "used" tires, a rebuild on the engine, and a paint job, and she'll be mint!
You're totally going to make some cash grading the neighbors roads in the area.
Still cost a bit for those tires used at that point just wait till 1 shits it self then replace it
@@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq some military tires are cheap, dunno if these are 24in rim or not but yeah
@@johndowe7003 im a tire fleet person (work hard way under payed) in new Zealand i do loaders skidders scrapers tractors trucks all the big shit iv not come across any military stuff at all and id say his tires will be fine for the use it will get
@@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq yep, agreed. i see a lot of old graders here in the states use old style NDT tires they fit perfect and are super cheap
True
My Dad operated a grader for roughly 20 years. I spent many hours over the years in the (non existent) passenger seat. Thanks for the memory. :)
I never realized a grader can come up so steeply to the side with the blade
If you have the 14' blade you can rotate it in circled between the tires like a helicopter.
Well done Marty. Did you pick up the 'spare' engine in parts?
I thought you were going to get the dozer also. LOL
You are starting your own construction business.
Thanks for sharing.
Good British engineering , reliable and dependable , when you go to start it you will see on fuel pump a little bottom, push that in when cold and she will start first couple of revolutions, yes they are not that good on lock but once you work out how to use back bogey steering as well you will have less problems going around corners etc, I have operated this type on and off over a 50 odd year period, last operated one of the m9del you have 6x6 on a land development job on the west coast of South Island during summer months 2013 through until 2018, Leyland engine will go forever but do not overheat, I would suggest you clean our radiator thoroughly and fill with proper coolant , low gear is your main working gear and use the revs accordingly , second gear only use if really light pushing.
Make sure you replace cutting edges before you do to much with her as I see they are very warm down and so many clowns do not change in time and wear hell out of the mould board , you got a cheap good old machine there mate, good luck and enjoy the old girl.
Are you talking about the cold start? We have this old skidder, and when it’s cold you have to take the throttle handle and take it all the way back. Then you can push the button on the fuel pump. Starts first few turns.
Around the same weight 13.5 ton however the 6x6 will out push the good old Cat 12, I have owned and operated both models. The tandem drive models about the same as Cat 12 depending on transmissions , Cat 12 4x4 manual will most times out perform the manual 4x4 Averling but not by a hell of a lot however the Power shift model 4x4 Averling will most times out perform the good old Cat 12, also of course it often depends on the operator, In my opinion for what it's worth they were both good reliable machines. For a matter of interest I retired from operating graders and other heavy machinery on the 28/9/2019, my last machine being a Cat 140 M , prior to that I had operated I Cat 16 H for 3 seasons up in the Northern Territory, in my time up in the Northern Territory over 10 season I operated Cat 12G , Cat 140H and the other two I mentioned . Just a bit of useless information if anybody interested.
Around the same weight 13.5 ton however the 6x6 will out push the good old Cat 12, I have owned and operated both models. The tandem drive models about the same as Cat 12 depending on transmissions , Cat 12 4x4 manual will most times out perform the manual 4x4 Averling but not by a hell of a lot however the Power shift model 4x4 Averling will most times out perform the good old Cat 12, also of course it often depends on the operator, In my opinion for what it's worth they were both good reliable machines. For a matter of interest I retired from operating graders and other heavy machinery on the 28/9/2019, my last machine being a Cat 140 M , prior to that I had operated I Cat 16 H for 3 seasons up in the Northern Territory, in my time up in the Northern Territory over 10 season I operated Cat 12G , Cat 140H and the other two I mentioned . Just a bit of useless information if anybody interested.
Allen, you're the type of guy everyone wishes they had as a neighbor! Prolly help out for a can of suds, then tell GREAT stories when the work is done. Congrats on a life well-lived. Many of us wish we could say that.
Hell yeah, buy it! That's cheaper than a Suzuki Swift.
Upon seeing the title I had Grader Expectations...
Ha... Ha. ha...
So let's see: You started out with a little toy bulldozer (the Bristol), moved on to a tractor with a grader blade (the David Brown), and now you're getting a full-on grader! Have you considered a paver next?
I'm not addicted;
honest;
I can quit wherever I want.
😊
Everyone with a few tracks and a long driveway needs this. Amazed the brakes even work. Plenty of hours left in that. Spare hydraulic pump is a bonus. Tyres hold air. Cant go wrong
Start looking for some drive tires (or tyres). Running different sizes is a sure way to tear out the gears/chain drives.
An operational road grader for the price of its scrap metal,, The first time you use it to grade that 6 kilometers of gravel road should about pay for it,,, :-)
Having operated a road grader I can tell you that once you master the controls, you'd be amazed at what you can do with that machine.
Yes its going to take some practice
@@MartyT I found that the hardest part of operating a road grader is keeping your blade in contact with the ground as you intend it.
@@ronaldziehlke9720 I can imagine, can't really see whats going on in front of the blade, I'm toying with the idea of mounting a camera looking at front of the blade with live feed to the cab
@@MartyT Depending on the model of grader you'll either see the blade sitting down or in some older models, just grade while standing up. Besides, you don't need to see the front of the blade, just the back side of it.
Love the new project. It’s a beauty and since it’s an ailing bastard, I feel a kindred closeness with it. Many thanks for sharing. 😊👍
“Looks like my kind of machine”... gave me a chuckle. Thanks for giving these old girls a new lease on life. In today’s throw away society, it’s refreshing. My 2006 Volvo wagon is just broken in...
My 1981 Diahatsu diesel Scat is not yet run in but I am working on it.
Wow that brings back memories. I was a plant op in the Royal engineers in the early 70s and operated an Earlier Aveling Barford grader among other things
what a cool machine. interesting to see all the other toys the seller had.
Marty..theres a scrapyard in Whanganui for sale on Heads Rd...i asked him whether he had any crawlers..not noticing there was one practically right in front of me..oh yeah he said..we ve got 14 different types he said...
Nice, I could spend all day poking around places like that
@@MartyT Them is dangerous places, they are at their most dangerous when the wallet is full and the trailer empty.
@me and me I'm sure he'll find an old shed somewhere.,...
@@marksbikeexports5123 Very true!
@me and me like the humour, but he's too late - check out tom scott's video on Egmont national park which is an almost perfect circle and visible from space
The thing you found is the remains of a rotator beacon.
You bought a monster.
But a hell of a useful monster!
With a little bit of a clean up and maintenance, she's got a lot of life left in her!
As someone that's spent a ton of time maintaining older equipment, give her some love and she'll give you back a lot of years of use.
I'd say you got a pretty deal with this one....
The way you're going Marty, he'll be passing the reigns over to you when he retires as the antique machines legend. :) How much land do you have? Looks like space is getting to a premium in the yard.
I have 100 acres so a bit of room to spread out yet
@@MartyT That's great! Well, you're going to be using a number of the new tools to expand the flats and making short work of it. Now all you need a is crane. ;)
@@ThePreyMantas Cranes are an addiction...a friend of mine bought about four of the damned things last year, including a 55-ton all-terrain crane for $7500 that...mostly runs.
@@Porty1119 :) lol Around these parts I also know folks who are afflicted with the same compulsion. We call them "tool whores'. lol Same fellow who lives not far from me has a virtually brand new mini loader, a very nice, small, capable tool that I think has only seen the light of day twice in the last 15 years buried deep in the back of one of his containers.I guess he's saving it as an investment piece. We tease him whenever the subject of tools comes up. He seems to enjoy it.
Jus another nice find Mr. Marty!
Hey, I believe those front wheels tilt for making tight turns. More AWESOME vids coming!!!! 👍👍
.............yes and no. yes the front wheels tilt, but to help it excavate/ cut angles.Think ditching on the side of highways.
Just buy it Marty! I see anew business starting ??? "MartyT" earthmoving!! Grading is a science and you can get some great results with a bit of practice and watching the pro's!!
Cheers Gregg.
FishplateFilms that’s totally what I was gonna say!😁
Good score at that price, and those old Leyland engines just keep on going even when they are sick. Don't run a multigrade oil in them otherwise they drink it like a sailor on shore leave.
That's interesting, what oil would you use? previous owner told me he never changed the oil in 15 years, just kept topping it up as it burns and leaks a bit
@@MartyT We use to run them on Castrol CRB40 or CRB 50 depending on how worn they were.
It's always a great privilege when an old timer gives you a tour of the private hoard. You are going to need to build another machine shed to store all the old iron you have been collecting.
even if you have to do a rebuild on the engine the rest of the machine looks like it has good bones. Looking forward to the videos.
I didn’t realize they could tilt the blade that far. You could just about square off a hillside with it
Marty T Earthmoving, so whats the next bit of kit to be found under the trees?, at least the old girl will be fairly simple to work on, no modern computer management.
Pete Wood, VERY true! I HATE all the computer crap in new stuff!
If you lean the front wheels over ( one of those levers) into a turn it will turn better & bite in, also lean the wheels over opposite the way it's grading it will cut better & wander less. When grading do it in the lowest gear possible to make it easier to learn, you'll probably think you need four arms, but two moving quickly between the steering wheel & levers can just do it. You need a smooth drum roller & water cart now.
Lean them to the same side your spitting your windrow. Opposite sounds confusing
That sounds confusing@@JamesTurner-yw9pg. Once your grading you'll see which way the angle of the mold board is pulling the front of the machine & tilt the tyres the opposite way to the pull so they bite in, watch one in action and all will be revealed. There are two types of grader operators, ones who take roadbase material from the road & spread it in the gutter & ones who take roadbase material from the gutter & spread it on the roadway. Be the latter one.
Whichever way the toe is pointing is the direction the force of the moldboard is going to try push the grader. Never the other way. Wether your a grader operator or a shit spreader makes no difderence. And untill he has the basics down pat I wouldn't even bother with lean. He will probably never work that machine as hard as it was designed too.
I swear every episode your buying another machine to grade that ruddy road! haha.
Next up, something with drive by tree-cutting for that road!
@Astro Turf Hahah! I reckon
@@MichaelDreksler should just napalm the surrounding forests I swear xD
@Astro Turf LOLZ!
@@MichaelDreksler I was thinking electric pole saw stuck out the window would suffice
Your one bloke i really want to meet Marty. Good score m8. Sand blast & a paint. Test your glass cutting skills out job ahead of you re-glazing the cab. A good service and money in the bank...
Totally agree be good to she her back
Restored
I can see myself in a similar situation. A huge, expensive, time-consuming project to repair something I'll likely never need (but you never know) but the initial price is good, so yeah, I'll take it.
Another good piece of machinery saved from the scrap yard.
Ahh, an "Ambling Bastard". One of those came very close to killing me in 1984. I got squashed between it and a D4 bulldozer. There is, apparently, just enough room for a tube of toothpaste between them.
Dang that's a big old machine, you are running out of space soon Marty !
Looks like a good buy Marty. Now you need a saw on the front of a tractor to prune all those trees down your road.
I love TI (Tired Iron) so for me it would be a smmmmmokin' deal. Long was to go before it is scrap. What a bargain can of worms, at least it didn't come in a bucket of bolts so you are light-years ahead of the game.
Sandblaster, prime, paint.... Job done.
Awesome video again sir.
Your Pal BigBadBubbaBurns
Who wants to learn how to drive a grader! Oh we all do! Show us your TLC on her.
now you just need a dump truck
Well, I don't reckon that Jay Leno has got one of those :-).
Marty T's (Kiwi style) Garage !
What a cool toy, got to ride in one when I was about 4 years old, loved them ever since!!!!!!
Haha my 2 year old son loves it too
It doesn't have a burnt valve. If it did you could hear the low cyl. as you crank the engine. I didn't hear it.
I did hear a chuff at idle.
@@gregorymalchuk272 Almost everything old and dependable chuff's at idle, opening them up is a waste of time and head thickness as they're always shinier than new stuff coming out of the factory :D
Great content as always :D
Seller: " I like the rare ones" Translation...I enjoy pouring heaps of money into rarely used projects, waiting months for parts, or just have them sit there and moulder away!! Run a mile Marty!! don't touch them with a barge pole! At least the Aveling Barford was common in its day
Haha wise words mate
Good buy! Yes you can use the blade to lift the wheels both front and rear depending on the position of the blade. Using the front wheel lean will make it much easier to take tight corners both roading the machine and when grading. Make sure you check the oil in the chain boxes (drive the tandem rear wheels), top up/change if required. Some new glass in the cab will do wonders for the controls and seat too. Also the cutting edges wear very quickly on most graders so have a look and replace before the wear gets down to the mould board. Can't complain for the money! 👍
A grader for that price is almost unheard of. I've only seen one go for less, and it was $1200 because the guy wanted it gone. It wasn't on for an hour before it was gone.
I worked with a guy that called aveling barford stuff aveling bastard. I think it was based on what they were like to work on as a mechanic.
Strap some chainsaws to the side of the cab and trim the trees at the same time.
Giday from the Land of Oz - check out the availability of spare parts first. A lesson I learned from my recent purchase of a Volvo LM 846 Wheeled Loader - its a World Wide search for even basic spare parts - Dont suppose you have seen any being wrecked or parted out in your area????
iain what kind of stuff you after ? I'm in the UK and used to run an 846
@@LordMuck Gi'day - just got back from the Farm (limited reception) you probably do not have mobile/internet black spots regarding reception in England - anyway I was keen to send you a response but I could not. I have a number of old machines - the latest drama is with the Volvo lM846 which came running but missing a few bits and pieces - can you believe brakes disconnected - yup she is missing one master slave cylinder and a brake foot valve control - until I get these replaced and hooked up I will not be able to see if calipers can be saved. I have been hunting a few service kits but cannot actually get these parts which I am missing. The diesel primer pump needs a kit as well - the last owner stuck a 12V electric pump on it - which may be the problem given its a 24V system. Anyway my email address is iainbruce1963nsw@gmail.com - I have a few other "beasts" up the farm including a JCB 3X backhoe - hope to hear from you - cheers from Downunder - iain
"Whatever it is, we've got one". Classic!
Coming soon - got an Oliver OC 15 for a bargain, will it run.
Wait till the wife gets home and sees the new rusty thing in her parking spot. Haha, good luck Marty, you better get a job lined up and make some wife money with the new toy. =)
I was thinking the same thing...
Tell the wife she has a new Company Car .......... make her Laugh & she will forgive you ....... that is until you get a Roller for tarmac , lol .
All you need now is to find you a sherman tank
there is a lot to go wrong on a grader... and I don't know if I could justify buying one, but I don't have a 6km driveway either... otherwise swap some fluids and run it till it pukes, call it a win
it's way past it's commercial use days, but for once or twice a year use it could last the rest of his life.
Looks like a beast of a machine coming through the woods!
Your Wife must love the sound of your Truck going through the Gate, Now where's He going & what piece of Rusty crap is he going to bring back Home? You always make an entertaining Video 👍
1:23 That's actually a great way to check any vehicle :)
You can use it when you go on a date....
Bring on the rain. The fact she is running and usable makes her good value even with some of the standard maintenance needed
Your earth moving business seems to be off to a good start. Was that intentional?
Hi from the U.S.!
Really like your vids! Spent many years running a grader. On your tighter turns lean the front wheels into the turn it will help it steer. Ran a 1962 Caterpillar 12E,all gear driven. VERY dependable and no hydraulic leaks. As you say over there,Cheers! Thank you for making the vids. Judd
Of course it's spelled "moldboard", and be careful not to stick it into one of your front tires. Very wise to take advantage of the opportunity to own one for your long access road. Now, if you can only pick up a rock crusher for a gravel source. LOL.
Those old girls down below the steering column have a sheer pin designed to break just have a few of them can't go wrong
I've been watching your old videos and I'm picturing your place as like a farm where working dogs go to retire, except it's for farming and construction equipment!
IMO anything that runs and drives, at the price of scrap metal is worth it
hi from the uk marty, looking forward to see what you do with the grader.
What a neat machine. Well, she’ll make quite a few opportunities for some very interesting restoration videos.
Can't wait till you do the maintenance on this old girl. What a beauty.
Good trick putting that blade out on high bank. Nice that you can do it from the operator's seat. Some graders need to get out and release a pin to get it to do that. What a deal!
When I learned to operate my teacher said use the lowest gear with plenty of throttle. That way you don't get in a bind too quickly. If you make a mistake you haven't traveled too far before you stop.
Thanks for the fun. :-)
So Marty when you gonna make some badass tire chains for that old girl... lol
I want one! That thing'll do vert scrapes up my driveway!! Oh, the damage one could do...........
Product of a license agreement with designer Austin-Western in the United States. That is probably the Super 300 model with tandem rear wheels. The Pacer 300 model had only two rear wheels, but was four-wheel drive and four-wheel steer as wheel. Have fun !! Parts ??
That looks great, Marty. How were the fluids, mate?
Dear Marty T.
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic, but I have to withdraw: The first thing that big machine needs are ram horns mounted on the flat front metal plate! :-) ;-) Maybe even a kind of ram face/head made out of scrap metal!?
2) Will there be a "Marty T. angry ram street and driveway maintenance company? Otherwise (and for the first time) I definitely don't understand an acquisition of yours. Because unless you have a flat bed loader truck this grader is only a "fancy" and expensive tool for your collection. At least in my opinion. But I will be thankful if you kindly explain to us viewers what you have in mind for this 6 wheeled monster.
I guess that it's a little bit too big for grading cheese (even if you would live in Switzerland or the Netherlands)! ;-) :-)
3) I hope and pray that you are able to afford to build a big shed for all your machines in the near future. They definitely deserve to be under a roof.
Thanks a lot for making recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck health and wisdom.
I was unaware that New Zealand had fire dangers. I suspect that you will be purchasing hydraulic fluid buy the 55 gallon drum.BTW, I'v got the other one!
I've never seen grader tires that bald. Those need replaced ASAP. Shouldn't cost too much, especially if you get slave tires from a factory or even secondhand tires.
This one is also missing the counterweight from the front. Be careful.
Use wheel lean to turn sharper. Wheel lean makes a huge difference to turning radius. Just lean the top of the wheels into the turn and straighten them back out as you come out of the turn.
That grader doesnt have wheel tilt, wheel tilt keeps your front wheels from sliding
I can't wait to see the fluids changed
guessing there's no fancy electronic's on it....
A NEW toy ! O boy!! o boy!!
Marty, I'm new to your channel. I was watching your grader video where you are cleaning air filter. That top you were cleaning your supposed to have oil in that bowl so air coming in gets cleaned in oil. Love your videos
Wow! Two huge thumbs up for the new toy! Looking forward to the future videos with repairs and learning to use the old girl!
Looks like it has a ripper up front as well. Hopefully that works too. Seems like a good deal and a good project.
Please be careful to not wear the cutting edge down to the Moldboard it cost a fortune to rebuild! Before you install new cutting edges, hard face it will save you a ton of money in the long Run.. ChiefD ps, do not hardface the flat face of the cutting edge or the moldboard as will be twice as difficult to roll/sidedhift soil. HF the cutting-edge in contact with the ground, you may also do the ends of the End Bits bolted to the Moldboard. You should do the same to the tipper shanks and tips. I think the edges have all ready been flipped over to present by the edge you are now using
Looking forward to seeing you fix all the little bits, nice work keeping these old things going instead of rusting to nothing
A great history behind this brand, I remember as a kid growing up in Kent some of the old 'uns who used to work at Aveling's in Rochester before they moved to a new site up country and Aveling's were considered one of the best traction engine builders back in the day.
It is a well built machine, made to last
Racing tires are a nice bonus but I have to wonder what's next on the list of things that can surface the driveway, perhaps a paver? Jokes aside good unit for what you need I would say, Friend of mine has one even older than that, all cable driven with a cast iron cab. Given the hours you will put on it I think it's a nice easy retirement for th old girl.
I think those OC15 Olivers have a Hercules engine. We used to call Aveling Barfords ‘Snivelling Bastards’. Another great purchase, Marty. 👍
Soooo I am early
I'm sure it's by design, but you've really positioned yourself well to take care of the roads leading to and from your remote hideaway. That's top notch living I think. New Zealand is breathtaking from what I can see. I'd want your quality of living if I called that home.