Eaton Fuller Roadranger Gearbox: Splitting Gears & Using the Splitter Hi/Low Range & RANGER SELECTOR
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- RANGE SELECTOR and SPLITTER EXPLAINED
Luke Watson explains how the splitter works and how to split gears on a truck with a roadranger gearbox. Road Rangers make 13-speed, 10-speed, 9-speed, 15-speed and 18-speed transmissions and these types of gear boxes have splitters - this is how to use them correctly.
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How to Split Gears UP:
Step One - speed the truck up to meet the next gear and pre-select the HI
Step Two - release accelerator and HI will be engaged
How to Split DOWN:
Step One - slow the truck down to meet the lower gear and move the HI/LOW SPLITTER SELECTOR to LO
Step Two - apply gentle acceleration until LO is engaged.
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The best road ranger gearbox video I've seen.. this dude is very clear to understand
good thanks for the training, that double clutching is great dear, work of the burton too.
I'm watching from Bangladesh.
Your video helped me so much, Thank you. ❤
Thank you, finally someone showing when to double clutch and when not to(splitting). I was curious but not anymore.
Lmfao I only use the clutch to start and stop...I float my gears.
You are a good teacher ❤
Your a genius in this Mr. Watson
Very good information, just got my HR and they taught me really well besides the fact they didn't show me how the splitter works. Learnt in the same Eaton 13 speed so it's good too see its not tricky
That’s explained really well I find that most schools don’t teach to split gears as it’s not in your assessment , thanks for the tuition
Very welcome
This is a perfect example of how to wear out the back half of the transmission by using a splitter incorrectly…
@@coryturner9140 Should you depress the clutch once to correctly use the splitter?
@@rupertrussell1 yes you use the clutch and do so right after you move the splitter button. Don’t move the splitter until you’re ready to let off the throttle and depress the clutch to shift.
I was out the back of Port Hedland today for my first go. Lots of room to learn there. Took me a few stop and starts or 10ks to figure the 8 gears
I drive 5tonne auto usually still. Its good to learn property tho the industry. Be years before I'm personally ready for triples. I'm in no rush
Best teacher 👍
Thank you for the clear explanation. I grew up working around large trucks but only drove them around the shop yard. I recently added a splitter shifter I bought on Etsy to use with American Truck Simulator.
Thank you for the clear explanation, you make it soo clear how to change gears.
A very clearly explained video,as the Eaton instruction manual,and warranty say's!!
Double clutching helps reduce stress on gearbox components by matching the engine and gearbox speeds. It's a good habit even with gearboxes that have synchros. It might sound complicated and difficult if you're not used to it, but it takes very little practice to get it right and once you get used to it, it becomes second nature. Can help your gearbox live a lot longer.
Yes you're correct. Also you get these guys that change gears without using the clutch and say it doesn't do any damage. It does because after a while it wears out the selector fork. They don't care because it's not their truck.
most drivers don't give a sh#t about there wagon , it's not there's..companys whom pay them dust !!
.the amount of abuse I see on especially youngsters they smoke the hell out of the renter's...
it's ya owner drivers whom care I guess...
@@andrewking9761 I'd rather wear out the trans than my knee 😅 my company has trucks crapping out at 6-700k miles of mostly city driving, none of the drivers ever double clutch, and they still shift fine when the engine takes a dump
@@andrewking9761 Mate how the hell do you think an automatic selects gears in an 18 speed road ranger it does not work the same way your car does, It is the exact same box as the manual box and the gears are selected with solenoids pushing the gears up an down via the selector there is no clutch doing anything, Infact if you start pushing the clutch in too far you come down against the clutch brake and at high speed, you will lock the shafts and tear the shit out of the box I have seen this happen $20,000 later to fix, and you worried about a bloody selector, I have been driving trucks for over 30 years and DO NOT use the clucth and have NEVER worn out a selector yet, you sound like you should working for Tolls or Visy driving automatics or maybe you do?? By the way I'm also a quailified Diesel Mechanic of 35 years I love you bloks that have no idea.
Agree
Another quality video
This gap between gears is very evident in smaller trucks. I was moving house for my sister a few weeks ago and we hired a truck. As you probably know rental vehicles are almost always auto. Lovely to drive Isuzu 14t GVM truck with beautifully comfy seats but it had one bad problem. It was only 6 speed. So, as we were travelling the Putty Rd between Windsor and Singleton it's quite a hilly and twisty road. The truck really really really needed a gear between 4th and 5th. I'd have it in gear select mode locked to 4th and even fully loaded it would pick up speed no problem but when I changed to 5th it would die in the arse. Would've been so handy to have a gear in between there.
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Thanks for putting this up
Best teacher ever👏🙄
You are a real Goat bro you nailed it
Not all hero’s wear capes
Thanks for taking the time to explain this ive only got the synchro license and been a bit worried about getting a crsdhbox license
This is awesome 👍
Awesome 👌 👍 👍 👍 😎
thanks bro
Thank you so much teacher
Your the man.
Thanks mate
Smooth
A new Truck in the Year 2022-only with Eaton RR Gearbox!
Best video
Shift pattern is very similar to the Volvo 16 speed. Nice to say you have 18 gears but if you look at the shift pattern you have only 8 gears with a splitter same as the Volvo box, You dont have to split every gear all the time. Climbing steep hills I split shift when changing up, full gear when changing down. Running light just full gear changes. U need to understand your rev range and torque parameters. At times heavily loaded moving uphill I use no clutch and the jake to pull the revs back faster giving me a quick change otherwise by the time you change you have lost speed and have to try again or stay in the one gear until the road flattens out. I find these videos interesting, something that wasn't available when I obtained my licence. Something I drove a while back had 5X4 Clark boxes (20 gears) with two sticks in the cab and on letting go of the steering wheel, you needed two hands, could split the gears quite well.
Wish my instructer show me that way. Makes more sense now.
For sure you really know how to drive
You first accelerate at 5 low to the max rpm then u release the accelerator and press the splitter switch to set it to 5 high then u hit the desired rpm, then u have to preselect and reset the splitter switch before changing the gear to 6 low. Am I right about this pattern? If I’m doing it right then my question is that do I keep accelerating in 5 high while I reset the splitter switch to the low setting before releasing the accelerator and shifting to 6 low or do I release the accelerator before resetting the splitter switch to the low setting and then go clutch neutral clutch 6 low accelerate? English is not my first language so please bear with me.
Great....
Pretty good video. So the clutch is not involved in the low-to-high switch? Or did I understand it correctly? I'm just a chick trying to wrap my head around split gear trucks after only driving range gear ones, sorry if it was a dumb question lol
Thanks a lot well explained, can make videos of 18 speed
Will try
I drove this truck today, and it was so much harder thant it looks. But I did have a lot of fun doing it and I want to practice more
Edit: Got my licence, super fun truck to drive.
Euro Truck Simulator brought me here.. ;D
Hope ur playing American Truck Sim now
@Good Boy nope as I’m going for my hc license heavy combination semi trailer and still need practice using an Eaton Fuller 18 speed Road Ranger gearbox
@@cokeaddict1663 I tried it, but honestly I haven't played any of those sims in awhile. Kinda got side tracked from driving games. Also to be honest I think I liked Euro Truck simulator because it was different, because ultimately it's a scenery exploration game, if I want to drive American roads I can step outside and go drive.
Hey Bud. Thanks for the vid. So when you split the gears it’s the lift off the throttle that makes the gear change, no clutch needed for up or down shift on a split gear?
How upset does the truck get if you forget the gear splitter button and up or down shift a full gear
For this particular truck... yes. I've driven many trucks and some respond (i.e. change from HI-LO and LO-HI) to the throttle off... whilst others respond to the clutch. So try both methods and see what works for your truck.
Upset - the good thing about truck gearboxes... if you do something wrong you know! Is grinds/crunches or it goes to ghost gear... nothing.
I tried t search for video where someone actually talks hot to use the splitter and not just show. When people don,t say it I found hard to understand that you select the splitter and accelerate and then release the pedal.
Wow
The most important thing is how the gear match the speed. But this thing nobody talk
Very informative :) What truck is this by the way?
Mike
I think it is a UD ( NISSAN DIESEL ) Prime Mover.
Somewhere between a CW385 - CW 445
I am guessing by the seat which looks like a very UD interior
Hi. With double clutching. Do you go all the way to the floor in most cases or is that only trucks without a clutch brake???
When changing gear... press clutch only past the friction point (half clutch).
@@ianwatsons Thanks bro
Do you clutch and then split?
Is that a hino 700 series? The hino 700 i was driving over here in ireland had a zf gearbox.
kèvin R Dee I move cows and I have that truck it is a ud gw400 or gw420
So much fun dog.
I have a 8 pattern Eaton Fuller with high and low on the high range pattern, but my truck doesn't have a splitter!
I drive 2008 hino 8 speed manual . I use double clutch for every shift . Is it ok to do so?
If it is a synchromesh gearbox - the manufacturer's usually advise single clutch. If it is a crashbox or non-synchro then the manufacturer usually advises double clutch. For many synchro gearboxes - the crawler gear (1st) is a non-sychro gear - so the only way to engage that gear is to double the clutch or bring the truck to a stop - then engage the gear.
How does going from 6h to 6l work? I ask because now works with the truck I drive a work.
just preselect the splitter to low position and release throttle, when you grab throttle again transmission will be in 6l
My brand new 2022 114SD freightliner won’t engage or grab the high split unless I accelerate into it half the time. Pretty sure something is wrong with it. It’s like it drops the gear. Example. 1234 flip to high, 5low, pre select, roll off the throttle for 5hi, but it never grabs 5hi and will drop right to idle unless I throttle it up and it catches, audibly clunking.
I want to see to 1994 Nissan diesel gear position
Very good video, but sometimes it got confusing when you spoke about high and low range, compared to splitting from low to high. I'm assuming that it wasn't an overdrive box, so calling it direct, & overdrive might not be correct. Otherwise great demonstration..👍
Why are people telling me to use the clutch to split the gears? Is the correct way speed it up, or clutch in for a few seconds and ease it out? Or are both correct?
It depends on the truck - some trucks you need the clutch, whist other you do not... it is not a one size fits all. So try with the clutch... if it works cool! If not, try with engines revs and accelerator.
@@ianwatsons What is it for your truck?
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Everything's backwards!!!
I'm so confused....
HAHAHA
J/K
Great vid!
I'm watching this in America and I know you have the same pedal configuration us we do but of course we shift using our right hand with the tower being on our right. It would be neat to try shifting a right hand drive vehicle that is manual with the left hand. It would feel weird at first. The mail Jeeps here in America are right side drive so that the mailmen can pull up to the mailbox and put the mail in the mailbox. Are the mail delivery vehicles in Australia left side drive?
Thanks for sharing. In Australia I have seen garbage trucks with steering on the other side, but not mail trucks.
Yes street sweepers and garbage trucks usually have two steering wheels. The right steering wheel is for getting to where you want to go then you swap over to the left for doing the job.
Urban mail delivery in Australia is done using motor scooters, bicycles, or e-trikes, so there is no need for such a vehicle.
Rural delivery is done from regular vehicles - in those areas there is enough space for a car or van to pull up to mailboxes on the driver's side.
At 1min you said geats 1 2 and 3 then range selector... did you miss 4?
Bit of an abrupt ending bro!
ha ha... yes indeed. My camera woman (my wife) had enough of listening to me!
@@ianwatsons 🤣
It's a shame European lorries are mostly automatic these days, I'd love it if they used ranges and splitters like they used to in the past,
naa it's a dangerous distraction screwing around with an archaic gear box.
@@michaelandrews4783 True that.. If only they made them like a car transmission.. Instead, you have to fuck around with double clutching, ā splitter switch, and a high/low selector.. Plus revving the fuck out of the gearbox while changing down etc etc 🤦♂️.. I was trying to drive one today and yesterday.. Quite a harrowing experience!⚙ 👀
Ah I virtuallyNEVER preselect simply because the moment you shift the direct/over drive button you have air load on the shift fork . This creates excess un-necessary wear. IMHO a bad habit to develop, therange you can as it will do nothing untill yuo hit neutral
Excellent point! Thanks for sharing! This is a tip I would give... not to an absolute beginner... but to someone who has got eh basics and is ready for some more info.
Thank you! Bangkok is a SCOOTER city.
excuse me, but all this to say that it is a manual truck gear box? the only difference between the truck ive learned is this red button to make the changes more smooth about low and high, i was expecting more, i just moved to australia from europe and thought that this was going to be that4 sticks clutchs from USA.... its is just that? hahahahah lovely
You don't know shit
Not bad for driving on the wrong side of the truck...
Fuller twin splitter is better.
Hahaha😂😂😂 only steering wheel holders use a damn clutch
only cowboys have that attitude
Not every truck likes to be floated.
I think ill stick to my 4spd auto
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