Towing with a Tesla Model 3? Are We Crazy!? Testing the Range and Power While Towing an Airstream

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  • @TruckKing
    @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hey folks! Have a question about range, legality, insurance or charging? Then watch our followup interview with Andy where we ask him all those questions for you - th-cam.com/video/jB-olOdQVik/w-d-xo.html

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you redo the experiment using a 2022 American made Tesla Model 3? I want to haul a trailer too but I heard the newer model 3 has been upgraded with a different battery called the 4680 battery among other upgrades.
      Want to see if this video is still accurate with all the new goodies.

  • @MB-kk8px
    @MB-kk8px 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Locomotives actually use electric motors to pull huge loads. It’s a hybrid system that uses a Diesel engine to generate the electricity. This should tell you something about what electric vehicles are capable of.

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      WW2 Elefant tank destroyers were also powered by electric motors and a generator : p

    • @tommymairo8964
      @tommymairo8964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Electro motor can provide huge torque at low speed which is not possible for an ICE without gearboxes. So use electro motor to tow heavy loads reduce the chance of incident and the cost for maintenance, thanks to the simplified mechanical structures.

    • @drexrexx
      @drexrexx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I work of union pacific railroad and I had no clue that the electric powered all of the loads until I got into training.

    • @yomomma1459
      @yomomma1459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      now telsas just need diesel engines to make them hybrids

    • @orangepeeI
      @orangepeeI ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not about electric motor but the battery.

  • @ronfeinberg
    @ronfeinberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Andy is the "Hitch Guru". I've purchased 3 30' Airstreams from Andy over the years; pulling them all with Mercedes ML's. Customers come from all over North America to have their hitches dialled in. He's a Canadian national treasure.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I love towing with Andy. I learn so much each time - Stephen

    • @pedalmike
      @pedalmike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ron Feinberg- Andy's crew set up my 2009 VW Tiguan to tow my 2004 16' Airstream Bambi International CCD. It was the nicest rig to drive that I've ever had. Can Am really knows their stuff as you say! I drove 500 miles one way to get it done but it was the best towing investment I ever made.

    • @EarlBalentine
      @EarlBalentine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pedalmike Does Andy just have one location? any place in the US?

    • @pedalmike
      @pedalmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EarlBalentine -it's just the one location in London, Ontario....however Andy has been willing to consult with customers over the phone with specific advice for your rig to enable a shop local to you to do the work.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ledzepandhabs
    @ledzepandhabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I drove 4 hours to get my rig set up from CAN AM RV, let me tell you, what a god sent transformation, these guys are scientists. I went from trailer wobble to driving one finger in a wind storm. Warm friendly service and Andy himself takes you on a run after they're done and answers all of your questions. My Mercedes R350 hitch always kept coming lose, they reworked it, added steel and made her permanent. Great place.

  • @2nd3rd1st
    @2nd3rd1st 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Impressive show, I'm not a towing guy but this was interesting to say the least. The Model 3 certainly is a more capable car than some people are giving it credit for. Only goes to show that with professional insight and know-how even unthinkable things are possible.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @AllElectricFamily
    @AllElectricFamily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    We love seeing Teslas towing. We’ve been towing with our Model X and learning a lot. They are solid tow vehicles!

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you just virtue signalling or are you actually towing long distance? They are not practical for towing at all. Unless you spend %90 of time in a city.

    • @RogerM88
      @RogerM88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChurchInAshes how dare you making so much sense? Don't be surprise some fanboy appears here to conter argue you.

    • @VoxelLoop
      @VoxelLoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ChurchInAshes I'm a bit confused, what would be the issue with towing outside the city? Generally speaking, Supercharger's are close enough that enough if your range is cut by 60% you'd be able to make it from one to the next with ease. (In Europe at least, in the US/Canada I'm not sure)
      Of course, it'd be a slower pace as you're having to stop more often, but you also gain some of that back by being able to charge over night to set off each day with a full charge.

    • @yomomma1459
      @yomomma1459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VoxelLoop yeah i can’t speak for europe but in the US its not very practical. 60% is generous most companies will tell you expect 50% of the range your vehicle normally gets.
      in the US there are so many places where charging stations are 100+ miles apart and you might not actually make it to one before your battery dies.

    • @loaded.357
      @loaded.357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      tongue weight means everything and what read is 500 pounds is what tesla vehicles are rated up to so unless your camper is under 4000 pounds total your gonna be over ratings and that's unsafe and causes accidents...n I have 2 million miles of towing no accidents under my belt so don't even try arguing with me I'm a cdl holder so I know way more about towing then some UK idiot camper Dad

  • @micwang7757
    @micwang7757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Never imagine that a model 3 can tow a big trailer like this. impressive!

  • @brianthomas3354
    @brianthomas3354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    so crazy to see a Model 3 towing a big travel trailer like that!

  • @hikintrailsndrinkinales
    @hikintrailsndrinkinales 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    This makes me more excited for my Cybertruck. Tesla’s are dreamy!

    • @advancedscarecrow
      @advancedscarecrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why are they dreamy? Because you can’t do an oil change? 😅

    • @GT4viper
      @GT4viper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@advancedscarecrow uh they don’t need oil changes? Because they’re electric?

    • @advancedscarecrow
      @advancedscarecrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Duh I was implying that he’s lazy to oil change and that he’s exited to not change oil or something to that extent 😂

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Losing your roof while you're driving is hella dreamy 😂

    • @icepigeon1767
      @icepigeon1767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@advancedscarecrow smh, but gas cars need way more maintenance and it cost a lot.

  • @GustavoSilva-kb9jr
    @GustavoSilva-kb9jr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow! Really impressive to see these things move. It is pulling well over its limit and still manages to pull with no effort

    • @My_HandleIs_
      @My_HandleIs_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/BbiBXK5CLlw/w-d-xo.html
      It's all fun and games until someone dies.

  • @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut
    @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this. Thank you! I have 2 Teslas and have alway been worried about hauling with them. This made me feel so much better!

  • @getlosttoday4045
    @getlosttoday4045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Just like the old days, smart man! Awesome video TK!

  • @nigelcampbell8460
    @nigelcampbell8460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, that setup is insane. Thought this was gonna be vlickbait. Loved your Canadian touch on TFL, didn't know you split but looks like you have a pretty good channel going here!

  • @TheWanderlees
    @TheWanderlees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We own a Tesla Model Y and a 22ft airstream. It tows great. We have a reservation for a Tesla truck but this is working for now. Looking forward to having more storage room with the truck. But the length will be longer if we upgrade to a truck and I’m not 100% positive we want to do that. Sometimes getting into the superchargers with our set up now can be a little tight. If we add length with the truck we might end up having to unhitch at the superchargers. We just started our TH-cam channel.

    • @harrygoldsmith5527
      @harrygoldsmith5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the Tesla Y Performance & I was told the towing capacity was 3500lbs., can it actually tow more?

    • @davidew98
      @davidew98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harrygoldsmith5527NO, legally it can only tow 3,500lbs. I have a model y and towed a 3,500 lb trailer last summer and it was awesome. I’m not sure how these people at can am is legally changing weight ratings!

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank You Everybody for supporting Electric Vehicles and for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste
    🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤

  • @Albanianator
    @Albanianator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good information on towing, especially now with more people RVing.

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I towed an enclosed 5x8 U-Haul trailer from Columbia MO to San Luis Obispo CA. Car had NO problem handling the trailer. The only impact was the range was reduced by 30%. It required 5 extra 20 minute stops as opposed to the trip to MO.

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      5 20 min stops? That sounds horrible 😳

    • @thefish5861
      @thefish5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My question, because I’m in the same situation as you, is how to manage the UHaul trailer on the back of my Tesla, at charging stations??

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ues it kse

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great info, thanks! I'm considering towing a 4x8 U-Haul, i was hoping to know the range degradation or the new Kw/mi, thanks for giving your input! To confirm, i assume this was a model 3?

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, was that with a custom setup like Andy's or a more popular 3rd party model 3 hitch like the ecohitch?

  • @mrnobody.4069
    @mrnobody.4069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had this very fun idea which I really want to do when I get older and have my own property for second vehicle I'm planning to have a model 3 or a model y long range and I want to make from scratch a solar powered camper so when you're camping out it would be self-sustaining and you could also charge your car as well even if the Tesla runs out and you're like in the middle of nowhere just can't be on the side of the road it will be fine I gave myself this idea by talking to my brother about making a solar powered shed for electric lawn equipment

  • @skunkbucket9408
    @skunkbucket9408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very impressive. I wouldn't have thought a car that size could be so stable with such a large trailer. The insight about the ratio of overhang to wheelbase makes sense. I used to tow a 27' TT with a first-gen Durango and it was a handful, always on the verge of oscillating out of control, and I burned through two differentials on a single 2400 mile trip. Even so, battery technology is still going to have to improve a bunch before long-distance electric towing becomes truly practical, IMHO.

    • @raycoleman3183
      @raycoleman3183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is a very strange experience you had. I owned a first gen Durango and drove it 95,000 miles, about half the time towing an 18’ tandem axle ‘car hauler’ trailer. Towed on both interstates and secondary roads. Extremely stable towing platform. If yours experienced ‘sway’, one or more factors were way out of adjustment.

  • @ohioguy4326
    @ohioguy4326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great review, first tow test I’ve seen with model review.

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic!
    I own the Chevy Bolt. The only issue I have with towing is the charging locations are only set up for driving straight in, you will be blocking if you can drive straight in with the trailer, most likely you will need to unhitch and go charge. That will had 10 to 15 mins to your charge time. A Gas station you can drive up to the pump.
    Petro Canada has just installed their cross Canada fast charge network. But it is a time based charger, cost/min, which will favor the faster charging cars.
    Cheers

    • @TheDukeX
      @TheDukeX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same... the Bolt also tows amazingly well!

    • @rickhall7955
      @rickhall7955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Many Tesla Supercharger locations are set up with a few stalls just for cars with trailers. You can also charge at your RV park :-)

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they should design charging station spots the same way as gas pumps, where you can enter and leave driving forward. But usually they put charging stations near the building to save costs (easier to run the wires, no need to dig and redo the asphalt)

    • @hgodtx
      @hgodtx ปีที่แล้ว

      In the Dallas area there are 3 Electrify America chargers and each location has ample room around it for trailers. They properly place the group of chargers at the least used part of a large parking lot so no one cares if you park whopper-jawed or blocking a "painted" isle.

  • @Bryan46162
    @Bryan46162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Extremely impressive what you've managed to do with the M3! It's an extremely elegant way to move a travel trailer. While I'm sure you lost all the folks who tow for a living when the range/vs charging times came out, this is clearly a very viable setup for a retiree who just likes to RV or a family vacation.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy m3 hybrd ektrc

    • @samusaran7317
      @samusaran7317 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharonbraselton3135 Hybrids are not electric vehicles...

  • @jeremyspafford2520
    @jeremyspafford2520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t wait to see your reviews when the Tesla truck comes out
    Great Job!

  • @davidberinger2988
    @davidberinger2988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome video! I’ve been waiting for proof that a model 3 can tow a small trailer....and here’s proof that it can tow what I call a huge trailer! Model 3 can be ordered with a hitch in Europe but not here. Why? Did you have any issues with Tesla software sensing a trailer or exceptional weight? Tesla sends data back to HQ...have you had any enquires from Tesla as to your “efficiency problems” as the software might consider it?
    Love it that truck guys are embracing electric transport. Guess the Cybertruck will be a game changer!

  • @willywatsonburg5998
    @willywatsonburg5998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was the last box the model 3 had to check for me. Great video thanks guys!

  • @patrickfillion7193
    @patrickfillion7193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got our setup done by Andy this summer. We are pulling a 16’ Airstream with a 4 cylinders Tiguan. The setup works great. Trying to convince my gf that when come the day, a car could be a real winner to pull our rig.

  • @bigchamp661
    @bigchamp661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super rad video!!! Would love to get Andy to set this up on my rig.

  • @Wingman77tws
    @Wingman77tws ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have used my model 3 for towing for years, and I’m not easy on it at all. I have been towing trailers up to 5000 lbs and it’s awesome.

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of range of Wh/mi (or Wh/km) have you been getting on average while towing? I'm specifically hoping to tow less than 2000 lbs and wondering how far I'll be able to get on each charge

    • @702stormrider
      @702stormrider ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of hitch are you using and where to purchase please?

    • @Wingman77tws
      @Wingman77tws ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@702stormrider I am using the stealth hitch.

    • @Wingman77tws
      @Wingman77tws ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnm5321 I have pulled a 5000 lb trailer and gotten 400wh/mi and a 1000lb trailer and gotten 750wh/mi. Economy has basically nothing to do with weight, it is all about air drag.

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wingman77tws great insight, thanks. I'm thinking about a U-Haul trailer, hopefully not the 750 wh/ki

  • @wakingchristian
    @wakingchristian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad you talked about the increased efficiency of the m3 motors over the mx motors because people are trying to compare what the CT will be able to do based on what they've seen with mx. There's a lot more to consider, efficiency, weight, cog, to name a few.

  • @yehudagoldberg6400
    @yehudagoldberg6400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very interesting, can't wait to tow with my Cybertruck.

  • @hgodtx
    @hgodtx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just curious if traveling on mountainous terrain, does the regen braking take care of the steepest grades? Or are you having to use brake pads to maintain speed?

  • @MichaelLRendon
    @MichaelLRendon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is amazing! i am so glad I got to see this video. I was wondering if my Tesla M3 performance would be able to tow the smaller Airstream Bambi. Now I know it can,,, I have to do a lot more research into how to properly add the tow bar/hitch

  • @shawnswc2539
    @shawnswc2539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For myself ever since I heard about Elon Musk and noticed his company Tesla his I always been a really big fan of his vehicles. And it never ends of surprisingly seen how amazing all his vehicles are doing on polling trailers on polling like now seeing you guys driving a Tesla 3 pulling a bullet trailer is just Amazing

  • @fatwajim
    @fatwajim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I tow a small pop up with our Model 3. I average about 420-450 wh/mi cruising on the highway. What is your consumption like while cruising on the highway?

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for the data.

  • @sophie-l
    @sophie-l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Impressive! Really well designed mount.
    If I need to move a ~3400lb car, what do you think of using a tow dolly hitched to a Tesla Model Y? Seems like it would be a good compromise to avoid over-weighting the hitch.

  • @99rambodog
    @99rambodog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a hell of a time finding a place to fill my Travel trailer/pick up combo at a gasoline staion. How do you get into a charging station while hooked up to a travel trailer???

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch the second video - Andy shows you.

    • @mossybank2000
      @mossybank2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most charging stops have 1 charger you can pull straight into rather than backing in to charge. Or you can unhook to charge. Not ideal but doable. We charge when we get to a campground

  • @health101DOTorg
    @health101DOTorg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Towards the end of the video, when they get onto the highway, a few different alerts pop up on the screen such as "Regenerative braking disabled" and "Stability control disabled". The battery is at 50% SOC, so why is regen braking disabled? Is it because the momentary high acceleration + towing that much weight overheated the motor and/or battery? And is Stability Control disabled because the car "knows" it's towing something?

  • @beamnggtworldchampionship8193
    @beamnggtworldchampionship8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is it legal , or does the manufacture allow it, and if it if you get in an accident with the hitch you may not be covered in an accident

  • @jeffdillon7202
    @jeffdillon7202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Did you ask him what his insurance policy states? If something were to happen, is he automatically at fault due to exceeding manufacturer limits?

    • @javiericardo100
      @javiericardo100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will be nice to get answer. I know is legal in Europe but for Unknown reason is not same in Canada

    • @anthonyreynolds2365
      @anthonyreynolds2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Insurance company could claim ignorance and put the owner at fault but it would be a court battle they might not feel is worth the risk. So hard maybe on that.
      Either way this is stupid if the owner gives a crap about his car. He probably voided his warranty as well and put his plates on full display exposing his VIN number, proving negligence in any drive unit or battery failures. The car was showing a lot of errors while towing that Airstream, Regen was disabled, Autopilot was disabled, Emergency braking disabled, stability and traction control disabled and I think ABS was disabled too. Far from safe imo.

    • @ianfaris2810
      @ianfaris2810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention what Tesla might say about the car's warranty. 😢

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see Tesla's in Québec with New York plates. There's probably a good network for snow birds to Florida too.

    • @whuang03
      @whuang03 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is not probably, Tesla’s supercharging network is the largest and best, u can drive anywhere in US and Canada with reasonable charging station distance.

  • @dannybailey2882
    @dannybailey2882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Who would of thought ?

    • @BigMTBrain
      @BigMTBrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To save young minds:.
      Who would have thought?
      Who would've thought?
      To not correct is to degrade and lose ourselves.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Locomotive Engineers.

  • @slickbelge
    @slickbelge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A large wind deflector on the roof of the tesla to match the height of the trailer would probably add a dozen miles to the range

  • @DylanBegazo
    @DylanBegazo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Tesla Model 3 you’re using in the video is towing a full sized 6000 pound Air stream trailer! WOW 👁👄👁

  • @seanz6586
    @seanz6586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! I thought I’d have to wait for the Cybertruck. I should do this for my model S. Even though I hate to ruin the aesthetics of that vehicle.

  • @mikespark72
    @mikespark72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that is incredible! model 3 pulling 6000 lbs? wow, just wow. Is there anything that car CANT do?

    • @neubauerjoseph
      @neubauerjoseph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just you wait a year of doing that will damage the car and require repairs.

    • @Weathergeekdan
      @Weathergeekdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's almost double what it should be towing, not to mention in a windy situation it wouldn't do too well.

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neubauerjoseph who tows a camping trailer all year long...?

  • @oscarmike4596
    @oscarmike4596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this incredible video. I look forward to towing with the Cybertruck

  • @mrmista101
    @mrmista101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what an amazing video thank you!

  • @hoapham7389
    @hoapham7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when you add metrics for the rest of the world.

  • @willaerley7140
    @willaerley7140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We need to hear from the Model S owners who have already had this done. Effect on range? Reliability issues? Unhitch everything to supercharge?

    • @sldghamr58
      @sldghamr58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      following

    • @Smith_Tech_70
      @Smith_Tech_70 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the Model S wasn't even rated to tow at all?

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smith_Tech_70 it's irrelevant, they explained it well in the video.

    • @Smith_Tech_70
      @Smith_Tech_70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HCkev I agree, it does seem silly that some cars like the Model S aren't even rated to tow at all, when they could probably tow very well. It's strange though seeing a 3600 lb car pull a 6000 lb trailer. Here in the UK, a general rule of thumb is that we stick to the 85% rule. So the trailer should not weigh more than 85% of teh weight of the towing vehicle, for safety reasons, as you don't want the "tail wagging the dog". But I must admit, the set up in this vid seems rock solid.

  • @dw9501
    @dw9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What were the kWh while towing 55mph

  • @luiggi0102
    @luiggi0102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow impressed ! I got a model 3 dual motor I’m definitely doing something like this in the future

  • @binlemakingartwithlego
    @binlemakingartwithlego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's amazing! It's towing capacity is 2,000 lbs, but that's towing 6,000 lbs! Do that to a gas sedan and it will break!

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I poke along at 90 kph" lol backing up traffic to the next province lol

  • @dukesins
    @dukesins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "EVs Won't Tow your Trailer. It's not going to Tow your Boat" Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Just shows how politicians only look at things in a political sense and very rarely in reality.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, well, he's rarely right about anything including how renewable energy will cost Aussie jobs, make a huge dent in the country's finances and, most importantly, climate change realities. Climate change damage to the Great Barrier Reef will cause massive job losses in the Aussie tourist, hospitality and fishing industries which is worth billions; "but hey, that's perfectly okay so long as me & my mates can keep in with our best buddies in the coal industrial complex - they do fund our political campaigns after all."
      BTW, was just using the Reef as one example. Many more in Australia.

    • @Stewiedude1
      @Stewiedude1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pinkelephants1421 the irony is that it will actually create thousands of 'green collar' jobs in the industry instead.
      I'd rather be involved in a role maintaining a turbine than a giant stinking gas plant.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Stewiedude1 My guess is that you're far from alone in that. I've long thought that the Nullarbor Desert could represent a huge opportunity for solar power generation. There's bugger all out there, it's vast, and unless I've completely got the wrong end of the stick, no environmental reason not to do so. How it might equate to energy exports I couldn't say but I'd bet there's someone who could & very profitably too.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pinkelephants1421
      You also get an improved ecosystem under the panels. opportunity for growing.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rogerstarkey5390 Not in the Nullarbor. It's *so* desolate that even the extremely clever and resourceful aboriginal people never bothered with it because they knew it just wasn't survivable. Even snakes and lizards are few and far between out there.

  • @E59FF
    @E59FF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So nice coming down hills not burning brakes + recharging

  • @LaloMarquez
    @LaloMarquez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have to disconnect the trailer every time you need to charge?

  • @captainchaos3667
    @captainchaos3667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What does Tesla think of this? Does it invalidate your warranty? And what about your car insurance, what do they think about people welding hitches onto the structural components of the car?

    • @astroplutonium
      @astroplutonium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the load you tow is larger than the vehicle allowed towing capacity and that is the reason that the motor f.ex. gets damaged then yes. You can bet your tushy that Tesla wont pay you a dime in repairs. As for insurance the answer is clear. Insurance will not cover you in case of an accident. That is the law. Everyone on the net can tell you ''it is fine just buy buy buy'' but it is your money, your safety and your life that is at the stake so choose wisely.

  • @GreenNeighbour
    @GreenNeighbour 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was charging with Andy at a Supercharger outside Port Hope last summer!

  • @hgodtx
    @hgodtx ปีที่แล้ว

    So now it's two years later. I'm just buying my Tesla but I ordered it with a tow hitch. Two Q's: 1) Did Tesla not offer a hitch back then? 2) How does your install scenario compare with the current factory hitch?

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  ปีที่แล้ว

      For these answers go direct to Andy at CanAm RV in London, ON.

  • @garthkay-hards2427
    @garthkay-hards2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elon. Just wondering if you will be putting a battery into the caravan coupled to the car battery when towing? You could push the towing range enormously. The battery in the van would be your camping supply and would get its recharge at the campsite. I guess solar panels would also be included on the van's roof. Just thinking 😃 Great job you are doing

    • @bryanchannell7715
      @bryanchannell7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's coming the title spells sexy cars 2v that's everything they claim or have maybe this far ie model s3cy cybertruck , atv roadsters ... Etc etc a van is very possible and a camper yes bc the semi will likely be it's platform #bryanchannell TH-cam ;)

    • @vistagraphsnet
      @vistagraphsnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A firm in Colorado that makes teardrop trailers does this and it is impressive.

  • @gmat2545
    @gmat2545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is insane, can we get some videos of a towing uphill and downhill?

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There has been so much interest in this video that we are doing a follow-up with Andy soon.

  • @danielsiffredi8403
    @danielsiffredi8403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what's the range impact . that's the key question I'd like to get a straight answer. thanks!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andy says that he gets 100 miles / 160 km on a charge towing that 6,000 lb trailer - straight.

    • @VoxelLoop
      @VoxelLoop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TruckKing To add to that, a full charge on a Tesla Supercharger, depending on if it's a version 2 or version 3, can be between 30 minutes and 50 minutes. Would be great to tow with a larger battery, maybe the Cybertruck will do a better job at this when it releases, would be interesting to see a video on that beast, maybe you'd see around 250 to 300 miles per charge as it does 500+ on one charge without a trailer. :)
      (The above times assume you're charging to full, not just to 75% like you would when driving without a trailer. Electric cars charge very slow past 80% so most owners only charge to 75% to save time on their journeys, usually that's only a 15 minute stop! More stops but less overall time!)

  • @informationageenterprise2184
    @informationageenterprise2184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Honestly he's forgotten more than I've ever known about towing" Lol

    • @bryanhersman4037
      @bryanhersman4037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forgotten what a GVWR is apparanty.

  • @702stormrider
    @702stormrider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I buy this hitch setup please?

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Reach out to Can-Am RV in London, Ontario

  • @woowayinvs1736
    @woowayinvs1736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow thank you- super interesting and helpful! WHere can I buy that towing attachment for the model 3? could. you include a link to buy it? thank you

  • @cocochanel9291
    @cocochanel9291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andy set up a few trailers for me. Guy is amazing to work with. The entire dealership is top notch. But I am not sure I will be towing with my Model 3 ;)

  • @groupealliance9702
    @groupealliance9702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please develop on the wheel base and overhang info you and Andy were talking about ... Would appreciate more info ... Thank you!

  • @donaldogerber8378
    @donaldogerber8378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all the information you provide, very useful... on every video I feel like I learn something new :)

  • @SteveLShannon
    @SteveLShannon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being able to tow is one thing. Accident in front of you and you’ve got to stop fast. Nope you won’t. Too many people on the road towing trailers they shouldn’t be. This video is telling people the wrong thing. Safety is #1.

  • @boblorne875
    @boblorne875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have my Cybertruck ordered and Andy will be my first stop.To buy and set up my trailer.

  • @Smith_Tech_70
    @Smith_Tech_70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't people in Canada / USA stick to the 100% rule? A rough rule of thumb that the trailer shouldn't exceed 100% of the weight of the car, for safety. Here, we have a 3800 lb car pulling a 6000 lb trailer. Also, in the UK, we have a total limit of 3500 kg for car + trailer.
    Also, does that heavy steel modification void the Model 3 warranty? The Model 3 only comes rated to tow 1000 kg, or 2200 lbs. I'm presuming this was done for safety?

  • @pauljennings7595
    @pauljennings7595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's not mentioned enough is the Airstream itself. Airstream's are unique in many ways. A large part of why there is so little sway is the shape of the trailer. I pull a 25' Airstream so comfortably because both my car and the Airstream have a low centre of gravity and incredible aerodynamics. Can Am RV installed my hitch setup. Andy really knows his stuff, as do the whole staff.

  • @lesstevens2370
    @lesstevens2370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me excited for the cybertruck oh yeah 😎 it going to be a beast at towing

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does the Tesla come with a BRAKE CONTROLLER? I am concerned about range. Towing an RV will deplete the battery way faster. I towed from Brantford to Surrey. I was hard pressed to find a gas station in some places in Canada, never mind a charge station. I do not see this practical at the moment depending where you travel.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To clarify - the Tesla was equipped with an aftermarket trailer brake controller.

    • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
      @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed at 5:57 that the driver making some adjustments (may be for the brake) on a small screen below the central display.
      The Model Y however has a special harness (located near the driver left foot) like the Model X to connect a brake controller.

    • @vadimus2007
      @vadimus2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 That was wireless rear view camera mounted on the back if the trailer it seems.

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! Well done.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you think so!

  • @kennethisaac3799
    @kennethisaac3799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was amazing!

  • @kimmbooo
    @kimmbooo ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great and thanks to andy

  • @dispatcherleti
    @dispatcherleti 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I want this kind of hitch setup on my Tesla model 3 and I don't live in Canada, what kind of hitch do I ask for and where can I go to get one installed? Also any idea on general pricing for both the hitch and labor?

  • @jasanmiguel
    @jasanmiguel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outrageous!!

    • @jasanmiguel
      @jasanmiguel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      After getting over my initial reaction, I'd ask do you have to unhook from the trailer at the tesla supercharger? I don't think there's room at these superchargers for both model 3 and travel trailer.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It varies, Andy told us that he often was able to pull around the back of the chargers and still reach.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qeongw

  • @andrewmoreno8979
    @andrewmoreno8979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who set the tow hitch up in there? Is that custom or is that from tesla? Where can I get that same setup in a model Y in Milwaukee Wisconsin

  • @lorenzonine
    @lorenzonine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE! great "testimonial".

  • @chriswilson433
    @chriswilson433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Someone needs to get him a copy of SAE J2807. Tow ratings are no longer “arbitrary.”

    • @AndreasDuessca
      @AndreasDuessca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      irrelevant for RVs.

    • @mar232010
      @mar232010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Andy consulted for Ford on J2807.

    • @opfreakx
      @opfreakx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only person that pulled numbers out of the air was Andy.

    • @yehudagoldberg6400
      @yehudagoldberg6400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xk302a A stock Model 3 will pull and handle better than almost any half-ton pickup. Only issue is braking which was most likely one of the upgrades he did.

    • @lloydsumpter7735
      @lloydsumpter7735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I don't know about the US, but I believe in Canada if you're towing more than the rated capacity and get in an accident, you're in trouble. ICBC will certainly not cover you.

  • @thebagelboy1
    @thebagelboy1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is this hitch style called?
    Also any plans or details for making your own? Asking as a welder and a tin knocker

  • @msnstarr
    @msnstarr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I think I'm now sold on the EAZ-LIFT WD hitch I was looking at..

  • @peiguy1982
    @peiguy1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting but the issue of being over gross vehicle weight rating was not brought up. Is the owner one bit concerned that he has no insurance if there is an accident? What if someone is killed? Nice to feel fancy and clever in a Tesla. It is a pet peeve of mine to share the road with people towing way over their rating. I assumed this was a parking lot or back road test. The guy mentioned a 500 mile road trip? Wow.

    • @jockosboy17
      @jockosboy17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you live that simply being over your rated GVWR excludes you from coverage in the event of an accident? Claims are processed all the time without taking GVWR into account and I know when trailers are involved many could be over the GVWR especially in the small business world where 1/2 ton trucks are towing trailers hauling tires, lawn equipment ect... All that being said if I were that owner at that shop modifying cars to help them tow more than there rated towing capacity I would be worried about setting himself up for liability issues in the event where there is a accident involving a vehicle he modified where they were over capacity.

    • @peiguy1982
      @peiguy1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jockosboy17 Canada. Sure half tons sometimes ignore and are over by 500 or 1000 lbs unknowingly. The Model 3 is rated at 1900 lbs towing and this trailer is over triple that dry. Also the vehicle needed to be modified to mount the hitch. Anyways if something happened at a crosswalk this is not one I would like to leave up to the lawyers for liability insurance. Call your insurance company and see what they say about towing 300 percent of your rating. For my Ram 1500 that would put me at 24600 lbs. Give me a break.

    • @jockosboy17
      @jockosboy17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peiguy1982 Again i'm not letting this guy off the hook as he is really putting himself and his customers at risk in the legal sense but you made a blanket statement about no insurance if a person is over their GVWR and that is just not the case. Law enforcement would definitely have an issue to investigate if that model 3 was in an accident towing that travel trailer. There would likely be some legal issues for the person towing and if another person was involved they would have grounds to sue beyond what they are owed for damages.

    • @peiguy1982
      @peiguy1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jockosboy17 Well I do believe insurance would be an issue this far over. This isn't just a few hundred over. Blanket statement of not its just my opinion and I would not be doing it. I'm sure Tesla has already voided this person's warranty as well. I'll leave the brake and chassis talk and just leave it at that. You have your opinion and I have mine.

    • @cndgb233
      @cndgb233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read your insurance policy, it is a legally binding contract and they have to cover you. If it was the case that they wouldn't cover you then drunk divers that get into accidents and even kill someone would not be covered either, which is not the case. Their claims in fact do get covered. However, the insurance company has every right not to renew your policy once it comes up for renewal if you were to be sued. This applies to even standalone accidents not towing anything that they can drop you after if the claim is huge, usually through very high rates at renewal time.

  • @jamesdunn9158
    @jamesdunn9158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive setup and effort to make this work however...I would have three reservations. Long term reliability of the Tesla motors, mechanical stress load on the frame that it is clearly not designed to handle... and critically, what happens when you need heavy breaking for accident avoidance. Taking off from stop signs and tracking/stability are great I am certain, but that's not where the trouble exists with towing.
    I've got a 25' airstream and have towed with several different vehicles with several setups. Most car braking systems (and I'm going to include electric motors/regen braking) are simply not designed to take the sustained thermal abuse of 6% grades twisting down a mountain pass towing 6K pounds of trailer, 1000lbs of which is normal force on the ball/hitch/towbar, and then needing to bury the brake peddle to avoid a deer jumping into the road (or other emergency situations). ...Better hope your trailer brakes are dialed in correctly and your tow bar isn't ripped from your frame and pushed into the battery cells...there are serious forces at play here serious power/electricity. Personally, wouldn't risk the family just to tow with this car. Buy a used 3/4ton crew cab truck for the same money and you won't regret it.
    My current tow vehicle is an F-250 diesel and I wouldn't tow with anything else. Barely notice the airstream is back there and using engine braking I'm still on the factory brake pads after 65K miles. Overkill...maybe, but there's a reason this is the most common truck size when you drive through a campground/rv park, it's easy and it's safe, because it was engineered to tow.
    FWIW, I also have a model Y, fantastic vehicle, my favorite of all that I have every owned. If I could only afford one, a truck for towing or the model y, I'd buy a model Y and rent an F-250 from a commercial rental company when I need to tow for the 5-8 camping trips per year.

  • @DrBradyHurst
    @DrBradyHurst ปีที่แล้ว

    Does auto pilot work while towing a trailer? There’s almost no TH-cam videos on this.
    That would be a game changer if it worked because the driving fatigue with trailers is so heavy.

  • @99unclebob
    @99unclebob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Steven what an awesome video, this at Can am has got it well mapped out and knows his stuff and he has many years experience versus the commenters here that for one have limited aka pussies and that the car is only 1900 lbs less than the trailer and all its mass is down low make it one of the most stable platforms for towing versus a truck/suv that sits at least12 to 15 " higher and all the mass in the front end of truck or suv and the Tesla model 3 is close to a 50/50 weight balance so this why its a good platform for towing and anyone who has done a good amount of towing knows you stop for fuel and food, this man at Can am just does it in the comfort of his airstream compare to a noisy stinky gas station restaurant and instead of $110 CDN in gas he puts in around $10-15 of electricity and the Tesla will have better braking control than trucks or suvs , Awesome video keep them coming 👍

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I completely agree the future will be electric over diesel everytime. But is a unibody car, not rated to tow in the US, ready for this? I would hate to be the first person to have a fender bender while towing and find out how the insurance lawyers would treat this.

    • @99unclebob
      @99unclebob 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aussie2uGA I do not about the USA , on the other hand in Canada it is rated, this was near London Ontario ,Canada

    • @jedigeek5
      @jedigeek5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn’t the brakes be an issue?

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jedigeek5 No, the Tesla uses massive Brembo brakes. My 2001 Tundra however, rated to tow 7500lbs, uses little discs in front and drum brakes in the rear. It's scary they certified that setup.

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jedigeek5 electric vehicles use regenerative braking. The motor acts as a generator and puts electricity back into the battery.

  • @ItalianSyd
    @ItalianSyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there! We have a standard-range Model 3 and just built a 3,000 lb. solid wood tiny home trailer. Will our vehicle be able to safely transport the tiny home? After seeing this video, we're feeling confident we might be able to! Appreciate of your feedback! :)

  • @MichaelKlesyk
    @MichaelKlesyk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What hitch was used on the Model 3? I saw most only had a 350 tongue limit.

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a hell-for-stout trailer hitch. The Stealth hitch is pretty much a bumper hitch.

  • @NicksApps
    @NicksApps 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow Tesla is impressive

  • @MarkLLawrence
    @MarkLLawrence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a couple years let's put the Cybertruck to the test and have it tow a 40,000lb trailer. That will be quite the show!

    • @rickhall7955
      @rickhall7955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Believe it or not, there is already a video of a Tesla Model X towing a Quantas 747 jet.

  • @mamyers171958
    @mamyers171958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Won't be towing with our Model 3. But this vid shows it's possible

  • @adrian8967
    @adrian8967 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did regenerative breaking mess with the breaks of the trailer?? My trailer tripping on me

  • @bobbrown7511
    @bobbrown7511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So very interesting! Thank you!

  • @jsabanal
    @jsabanal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be amazing if the image of the trailer would be reflected on the dashboard as well. :-)

  • @usaexpressionusaexpression7450
    @usaexpressionusaexpression7450 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video!

  • @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut
    @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit this is awesome!!!

  • @4dbandit
    @4dbandit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My suspicion is that if you get in an accident and your insurance figures out that you have exceeded the GVWR, you will be paying out of pocket.
    Sure, you can tow more than the rating, but the rating is there for a reason, and it protects your insurance company, as a side benefit.
    100 mile range is not good.