Fr. Seraphim Rose: Unheard Stories Told by His Godchildren
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Fr. Alexander Logunov and his mother Marina join Fr. Peter Heers to share special experiences and stories about their Godfather and spiritual father, Fr. Seraphim Rose.
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Yes Father, I kindly ask you to light a candle, when you go up, for all us sinners who listen to your talks about the Holy Fathers who have gone before us.
LORD HAVE MERCY, SAVE, PROTECT, KEEP, HELP, INSPIRE, and STRENGTHEN all of your servants and struggling Orthodox Christians.
@@OrthodoxEthosamin
Oh my gosh....this video is PROFOUND. Sooooooooo many INCREDIBLE nuggets. For real, God help me change my life. I don't want to be Ameridox.
He has helped my family go from Protestantism to pursuing Orthodoxy
This is something very special. Thanks to all, Glory to God
Fr. Logunov is my spiritual father and I am his altar server, was a great blessing to help him record this with Fr. Peter. Glory to God, may the message of the true Orthodox Ethos adhered to by St. John of Shanghai and Fr. Seraphim spread far and wide!
Watching from Brazil
Glory to God! @@beskow749
Thank you for helping Minnie & Alex to make this possible! I’m their cousin who is a catechumen in Oregon.
@StephenHuband, of which parish in nc is Fr Alexander the priest? Would love to visit if I'm ever in the area.
@@agiasf7330 Reigning Mother in Charlotte!
Thank you for agreeing to do this interview Father! It means a lot to us to have Fr Seraphim’s legacy passed on, and we pray that this inspires and edifies all who it reaches ❤️
Amin!
What a blessing to hear this story from Marina! Thank you for sharing!
Lord help us - the 3 other newly illumined converts plus myself all love Fr. Seraphim, we are at an OCA parish with a great priest. I oftentimes become overwhelmed by the OCA situation. Thank you for this video. May we all have the prayers of Fr. Seraphim, I too see him as a Saint.
This was beautiful to hear. Thank you! Both laughter and tears as Blessed Fr Rose is the one I read that led me to The Church.
Hello Fr Peter, haven't watched this stream yet, but if you ever looking for more people that knew Fr Seraphim Rose to interview I would recommend Abbess Victoria from OCA. She and her elder- Archimandrite Dimitry of Santa Rosa visited Platina a few times in the early 80s when Fr Seraphim Rose was still alive.
Glory to God☦️☦️
It’s interesting how the man, Fr Seraphim, is remembered a little differently by those close to him. Still an inspiration no matter who tells the story.
❤✝ CHRIST IS RISEN ✝❤
❤🦾⛪️🙏✝ FATHER SERAPHIM ROSE PLEASE PRAY FOR US ✝🙏🌹🕊
Commenting for the algorithm, and to show support for my godfather, Fr. Alexander and his mother Marina! Much love to you all and thank you to all who worked to put this wonderful interview together for us!
This is more than excellent
It´s wonderful to listen to people who knew Father Seraphim from face to face. Through Father Seraphim I came to Orthodoxy, he is very special to me, so is this interview.
Really great interview. Thanks so much Father Peter. Needed to hear this!
“The demons are busy”. So true
Awesomesauce
i definitely want to watch this
What a beautiful interview. Thank you fr Peter and OE for this❤
it would be nice if possible to invite Fr Paul Baba to talk about Fr Seraphim..
Glory to God ❤
Great broadcast..thank you
This was great! Thank you!
For context, it is referred to St. John Maximovitch of Shanghai and San Francisco. Lovely video, so genuine! Thank you Father ☦️ 🙏
Im ab 750pgs in on the life and works of Fr. Seraphim. Such a good book and blessed that my church had a copy to check out
Greetings beloved brothers and sisters ☦️ from Jerusalem to Greece 🇬🇷 to Russia 🇷🇺, to usa 🇺🇸 😊
Very enjoyable! Thank you.
More videos like this, please. It’s great watching you talk to laity.
Amazing.
What a blessing to watch this. Thank you so much. I’m reading the life and works of father seraphim rose at the moment. I’m a catechumen and I’m in love with the orthodox way of life. Thank you God 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
"He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life" (2 Corinthians 3:6)
☦🛐
so strange that many of us slavic Americans had to go back and re-baptize into our home ecclesiological habitat.
Many of us moved into parts of America that only had this "baptist church" (whatever that means) and in our ancestors' well-intentioned minds they must have figured they would rather integrate with those people than have no Church life at all.
Strange to tell people I'm a Russian, but converted into our own church
Many such cases.
@@acekoala457 too many
@@DoIoannToKnow
Never can be too many coming back to Orthodoxy.
@@acekoala457 its sad that so many were unknowingly indoctrinated into heterodoxy
Good interview
She touches on something I have seen as an issue. At 12:15, she comments about a man who insisted he be her godfather but she really didn't want to. I GENUINELY feel that Priests need to over see & monitor who can be whose godparents. I've witnessed a couple CONSTANTLY corner new people looking into the church. Sure enough, when these new people then choose to get baptised, these pushy people become the godmother/Father. A mutual friend of mine commented to some Catachumens, "Ya know, you don't HAVE to pick 'Jack & Jill' as your godparents", the catachumen was like "I don't?" And sure enough, this person chose someone else. These pushy people are converts to the Church themselves and they are RIDICULOUS. Between the two of them, they have something outrageous like 30+ or 40+ new Orthodox that they are godparents of in 10 years. WHERE is the Priest putting the smack down on this behavior?
Further to note fr Peter......Special request for you to write a book / manual / guide on being a godparent. I am one now, and I always feel so lost.
@ 1h 09: Regarding veils: recently, a ROCOR priest told me that that my daugthers (unmarried) need not wear veils, that only married woman. I understand that veils are not widely used across jurisdictions (Greek & Antiochian vs. Eastern Europeans) in the US. Can somebody explain the discrepancy, if any? Thank you.
This is a recent interpretation and problem. The traditional practice is very clear and it was universal, and if you go back far enough, even in the west, this was the practice. Women wore head, coverings, indeed, not only in church, but even throughout the day.
So, whatever we’re dealing with today is a recent pastoral problem created by confusion brought in by secularization
@@OrthodoxEthos Thank you that answers the question about women, what about the children?
Farher Peter...
Regarding waiting somewhere @50 years to canonize...and hearing why...will you comment on the current work to cannonize our beloved Elder Ephraim...its going on right now.
Are you attending ...and would you...if you were there...repeat this comment(@ waiting 50yrs)...
And...i am guessing Elder Ephraim is very,very,very special to you.
Elder Ephraim IS a saint. We already know this from the many miracles . It is just a matter of time until many more will know this.
However, the Church does NOT RUN early to make that “official.”
Yes: Usually, it is 50 years… after the generation that knew the saint has gone on. Many elders on Athos said this and so did Fr. Seraphim Rose. No need to rush.
It was 10 years for St Gregory Palamas and that was really exceptional and unique and for particular pastoral reasons then.
As to the motivations and possible agenda, one easily speculate… But, in the end only God truly knows and it is secondary.
But, that is why we follow the examples of the saints and the holy tradition and do not innovate, for then it doesn’t matter what our agenda or motivations are, or our personal thoughts and desires - they are submitted to the practice of the saints.
Again, there is no doubt that Elder Ephraim is a saint. More people should learn about his life. This will happen especially with the publication of the Life in the near future. His veneration will grow organically and from the bottom up. That is how it happens. The dangers of a rushed, top-down fiat declaration of holiness are many and actually may work to sow doubt rather than trust.
@@OrthodoxEthosawesome.
And I am asking Elder Ephraim to speak to them about it
@@OrthodoxEthosI stand by/with you Fr.Peter
Confused… did Marina say Fr Seraphim thought ROCOR would eventually reunite with Moscow and that this would be a good thing?
Yes.
Yes. Why would it not be good? That would mean that the church had come out from underneath the communist and there was a return to the Orthodox Ethos and piety.
The power of Orthodoxy. Repent, reconcile, unite ☦🙏
Which is why the TO/GOC crowd haven't been too keen about actually glorifying him despite them running around claiming he was one of them.
@acekoala457 what do you mean exactly?
I really hope that Fr. Josiah Trehnam @PatristicNectarFilms listens to this, especially at 14:37
Both positions are correct. The Orthodox Church is a missionary church, not an ethnic club, while from the perspective of Fr. Seraphim it was a time when there were no English speaking priests, so finding a service in your language was impossible. In that case crucify your mind so your soul can still be with Christ... But it is best if your mind, soul and body can all be present in worship.
Can anyone please name the chant from the introduction? Thank you.
It is:
“Makarismi” by the Choir of Vatopedi Fathers
Thank you!
If I may ask where f. Alexander is serving?
Reigning Mother of God in Charlotte NC
There's only one Orthodox Church where I live and it's antiochian. I just started attending orthos and Divine Liturgy am I doing something wrong? There are no other choices
Antiochian Archdiocese is where I was Baptised.
There are problems in all the Jursdictions. But Metropolitan Saba is a good and upright man, we don't deserve him.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Antiochian archdiocese.
Continue to strive there brother!
Every jurisdiction will have its downsides but they are all wonderful :). I was baptized in the Antiochian Church and now I’m in ROCOR
Thank you
Do the best that you can where you can! God is good! Pray for righteous bishops and priests and for the growth and strength of the Church. I have a feeling the days of jurisdictions will come to an end with the reunification, and then it will be a matter of who remains faithful and who has fallen away... Stay strong!
@ORTHODOX ETHOS ...
What is @41 min. discussed about 'putting "AIR" on his face or pulling it off?
@50 min. What is "ARTOS"? that is the only MEDICINE that we will have ? Thank you
They’re talking about the cloth that goes over the face of the monk in the coffin.
The Artos is the bread. The prosphora - antidoron
@@pah9730 Thank you so much !
@@pah9730 So why do monks have their faces covered in the coffin? And further, she also mentions about people who went to visit him, touching him and kissing his hand, etc. Why would that be disrespectful to a monastic?
I'm confused why the actions spoken of by devotees at the time of Fr. Seraphim's repose were considered disrespectful owing to his monastic status? It seems they were treating him as a saint, wouldn't that be a great show of respect?
A monastic has his face covered in the coffin.
he's a holy man.
in the end that's all that matters. Hopefully he will be canonized soon.
@@pah9730 Fr Seraphim Rose was not just " a monastic" obviously. And we also have photos of reposed Elser Joseph of Vatopedi , with the same serene, smiley expression on his face.
bro wont fosofora go bad?
I am a recent returnee to Orthodoxy. My head hurts trying to figure out all the infighting between the subsets of the faith. It's all quite disconcerting. I think the greatest pitfall to the Orthodox Church is etnicity. This is America. Speak English. Act American. By the grace of God I found a parish that is English speaking only. If there wasn't such a parish I would have never returned to Orthodoxy.
Be patient, listen, wait on God, go deeper, pray more and over time things will be become clearer and more apparent to you.
Don't rush to judge the matter; it takes time and discernement.
Act American? Orthodoxy came from the East. If you miss the nuances of Eastern thought which is essentially Orthodoxy you don’t have Orthodoxy you have American repackaged Orthodoxy. Which I am afraid I see happening a lot… Forgive me, this what I find incredibly annoying in the West. Speak English! Act like the West but then we want the East? Americans honestly, take a step back and let the Fathers of the EAST show you what Orthodoxy is. Forgive me!
@@honeymilk4160 on the other hand, Elder Ephraim indicated that in the west as well there will be the latter saints, who will resist the antichrist system
@@honeymilk4160 I have no problem with learning from the east as a matter of fact I have chosen to learn from the Fathers and from Orthodoxy, HOWEVER if Orthodoxy has come to America should Americans learn Greek or Russian or should Greeks and Russians learn English? As an example Should Latinos crossing our border learn to speak English or should we Americans learn to speak Spanish so we can learn the "nuances" of Latinos? How many Americans do you think might come to the true church of Orthoday if it didn't sound to them like a clanging cymbal or a sounding gong? The Bible says that "speaking in tongues" is of no value if we don't know what is being said.
@@paulmelonas7263 I don’t mind English services. That is fine. Of course we want the Kingdom of God full. It is not about ostracising people, more about keeping the sacredness of Orthodoxy. I’ve seen questionable things in America like people sitting on the floor with crossed legs and singing in an Orthodox Church. And we are just supposed to be ok with it all, I mean, it isn’t a movement. It is the ancient faith. It’s like people who have some identity issues in the west keep going on and on about “English only!” “We are in America” etc etc. So what if you are in America? Yeah it wouldn’t hurt you to know some Greek and Russian given these are the civilisations that were soaked in blood to keep Orthodoxy. It’s all take take take.. it’s American thinking to feel uncomfortable with something and then want to shift to suit their level of comfort. Discomfort is good! Forgive me for the rant. There needs to be balance here. Even the aestheticising of Orthodoxy on social media is getting a bit much and it’s coming from America mainly.