The fact that EA is referring to Sims 4 as "The Sims 4 base game" shows they intend to release as little as possible and have you micropay your way into an early bankruptcy.
On the subject of animals performing supposedly-selfless acts. There is such a thing as "group selection". As in, the natural selection of groups instead of the natural selection of individuals. Individuals who perform selfless acts are less likely to survive, mate, and propagate; however groups that have some individuals who are willing to perform selfless acts for the sake of the group are more likely to survive and propagate than groups that consist entirely of individuals who are all looking out for their own. Ergo, it benefits a species as a whole, and this includes humans, to have the capacity for selflessness encoded into the species' DNA. So it's not that altruism is inherently selfish, but that altruism has the ulterior purpose of serving the survival of the species, rather than doing good for good's sake like some starry-eyed idealists might believe.
thanks for that very clear explanation, I was going to type much the same thing, but instead I'll link to these RadioLab productions on altruism: www.radiolab.org/story/103983-equation-good/ www.radiolab.org/story/103951-the-good-show/
Well, "altruism" _is_ a manifestation of selfishness (at a genetic level). Basically, your genes are telling you to sacrifice yourself because it benefits _their_ clones. It's a bit odd that, in 2015, some biologists still treat (and some teachers still teach) natural selection as something that happens at the _individual organism_ level.
I actually had this game when I was a kid! On MS-Dos, tho (it had better graphics). If I recall correctly, the 'hobo' dudes are supposed to be lawyers trying to sue the factory and shut it down. By punching you. Which never did really make much sense to me.
Oh, the loading. I remember this with my Atari 800 with the tape drive. Back then, when you wanted to play a game, you REALLY had to want to play that game.
This seems like an interesting game done in by the technical limits of its system. It definitely has a lot of mechanics going at once, and encourages methodical yet quick-thinking player action. It also escalates in an interesting way, as the machine adds more elements. But the one-button controller and difficulty in describing its mechanics very well certainly didn't work in its favour. Probably won't see it on GOG anytime soon, but I think I'm safe in saying it's certainly a welcome surprise for any Lucasarts enthusiast. Fortunately its mechanics of "remember to do these steps in a certain order, and do them quickly" has been done to better effect in games like Papers, Please, and it wouldn't hurt to see more games like this in the future, maybe even one with a similar premise to this.
The hobo is a disgruntled person who has gone mad and broke into the factory to "take down the Lucas machine that stole his life after he bought and played 50 copies of E.T.". The player is the new employee to ILM after everyone was fired in a crazy attempt by the CEO to maximize profit in the most insane way possible.
Hey Yahtzee, how about a Let's Drown Out episode about Kerbal Space Programm. Should be really good to talk about stuff while it runs in the background.
Here, here. It's a unique, modern crossroads of sandbox with educational value, and that in the department of rocket science. Plus, explosions and engines are bound to amuse Gabe.
The human eye - on average - can easily detect the difference in smoothness between 30 and 60fps. Most people can't tell the difference above 60, but I am one of those who can, and I run my stuff at 144hz. When a game or video runs lower than the refresh rate of the screen displaying it (99% of the time 60hz, 50hz for PAL) there can be noticeable stutter and a weird time-shifting effect. This is not apparent to everyone, it depends on how your eyes and visual cortex perceive things. It also is not apparent on every game - it is most apparent in fast-paced FPS games (think Quake 3, TF2, CS:S, etc.). Some games, such as Oblivion, Skyrim, many RTS games, and so on are relatively smooth feeling at 30-40fps even for someone like me, though of course I can still tell the difference when it is higher, and prefer it. The really important bit is that the framerate stay consistent - it's better to have something run at 30fps constantly than jutter between 60 and 30 and in between. I agree with you on your point about Mario Kart 8 having 30fps for 4-player split-screen being fine. It's not optimal, but it's reasonable and understandable and certainly should be playable for that sort of game. However, it is a bit biased/egotistical to think that needing/wanting a framerate much higher is useless, just because your eyes/brain might not care - some of us perceive things in such a way that it really is much nicer for us when the framerates are higher.
Josh Barrett why does everyone need to point this out, like it's some kind of final mic drop? It doesn't matter, none of it matters. People will go for whichever silly frame number they like. The fact this is even something to get annoyed about it so dumb.
@@zombieslayer095 It's not about how fast you press, it's about how fast a press hits the screen. Given, this matters more in some games than others: high-speed twitch arena FPS play waaay better at 60, whereas turn based strategy and a lot of third-person action runs fine at 30. This also matters more in VR, where even 60 might not be enough.
Actually Gabe, records have a demonstrably higher sound quality than CDs. Analogue (Vinyl) captures waveforms in a far more complete state while digital (CDs) simply captures samples that replicate the waveforms as best it can. CDs won due to being convenient rather than actually being the superior product. This is why there's still plenty of modern band that continue to release albums on vinyl.
***** Vinyl approximates to 18bit digital, CDs are 16 bit. Ofcourse, Vinyl fails when compared to any decent digital format, which is the dominant way of delivering music the last 10+ years. Vinyl is nowadays all about collecting, not about quality of sound...
analogy is worse, but bands record things on vinyl because they can sell it for more money than they can make from cd's at gigs. also they have novelty value/ hipsters like them.
Vinyls sound better than CDs because you can't master them as loud and with as much distortion as you can with digital; a severely hot signal will make the needle jump off the record while you can get away with shipping a square wave on a disc and the public will be none the wiser.
I wonder if that "Looks better on film than it does on tape" is due to association. Things shot on film tended to be higher budget and better produced than things shot on tape, so the higher frame rate of tape says "shoddier" in people's minds.
I want a web-series that consists of Yahtzee and Gabriel playing a co-op game together. Yahtzee must be drinking and really into the game, and Gabe is not allowed to care about the game at all. We listen to them argue in an increasingly enraged fashion, and there is a swear-word counter at the bottom.
Lord North FPS does effect gameplay! I would prefer 60fps the whole time but in some single player games less isn't so much of an issue (though still sucks), however in multiplayer shooters it makes a huge difference as you have a higher response time. Below 60 feels like my mouse is in soup.
Lord North What I do think is unacceptable though is PC games/ports that are locked at 30fps, that is what I have a problem with. Generally if people can't run at 60fps then its normally because of their hardware or poor optimisation on belhalf of the devs.
PressStart420 Just imagine playing an FPS online against people with dropped framerates to 30fps. Yeah that would make a big difference. This is especially annoying in twitch shooters.
@26:52 If I should venture a guess, I would say the blue one could very well be Howard the Duck. But then again, I'm not too sure if LucasArts would want remind to people that the film existed in the first place...
This is actually a neat idea for a game. I wish I had known about this before. It's a different take on a puzzle game with a logical purpose. I'd like to see other games that function similarly and perhaps expand and polish the idea. Maybe there is some and I just haven't seen them yet.
Any sort of "programming" style game is probably similar even if it doesn't quite look similar to Night Shift. SpaceChem seems to be a more modern example, and I'm sure others exist but most of the ones I recall I only do so hazily as it seems they existed more in the past compared to nowadays. There are also many puzzle games involving a precise series of steps, a la LEGO Junkbot or The Incredible Machine, though those might be a stretch for fitting in whatever genre Night Shit is.
+beatchef I believe the original run of Empire Strikes Back figures had an Ugnaut figure (one of the bounty hunters Vader hires) that was miscolored or something, if I remember correctly. And, yes, it is worth quite a bit.
+beatchef Depends. If they would make a couple thousand or so by mistake (which would likely happen I guess) they probably would not be worth much. What makes them valuable is that most get thrown away and only very few survive.
Jokeritu Fuck off, this isn't how you argue your point. The reason why having as many FPS as possible is truth is because games aren't films. The less FPS you have, the less responsive a game feels. And guess what, this is one of those things that distinguish games from films, the interactivity.
Thank you if I was the one person. Apologies if I wasn't. I was only about comment 93 and did check them to see if it had been posted but might have missed it.
According to the Megaman wiki, the Dustman stage (Robot Scrapyard) was a level in Megaman 4, the little enemies that would pop out from under their helmets are called Metall EX. According to the wiki that is.
Yeah, I'm so glad I was playing Moon Rover and Math Blaster at this era instead. 5.5 floppys may not be elegant, but at least they aren't goddamn cassettes.
Since Yahtzee likes Papers Please, I can definitely see how this kind of game would appeal to him. Night Shift seems mechanically very similar, it just doesn't really have much of a story or humor or overarching goal. As they said, it's very much a minimum effort quota simulator, because there doesn't really seem to be any incentive to do better than the minimum.
They're called Mets, those Megaman enemies you're talking about.... heh I couldn't resist. I never really knew about the commodore 64, amiga or these kinds of games growing up, though I suppose the Super Nintendo being my first console at a scant 4 or 5 years old and an N64 when I was 6 or 7 doesn't really leave much room for others. I did however have either my parents or family members who would have computers that could play Lemmings, that was about the extend of my computer-oriented gaming experiences back then...
Not really, a game with a framerate of 30 objectively runs worse than a game with a framerate of 60. Whether or not you care if it's 30 or 60 doesn't matter, if it runs at 60 it also runs above 30 so both parties are happy. If it runs at 30 then the people that want it at 60 are not happy. Their "point" is they don't care, which is bullshit since they love to talk about it.
My assertion is that when I watch the telly, I want to feel I'm standing there while the events are happening, but I don't want to feel like I am standing there it is being filmed
i love how some pc elitest will say pc has better graphics then consoles and then play something like minecraft or counter strike source for 1500 hours
LOLOLOLOLCRYSIS3LOLOLOLWITCHER2LOLOLOLOLJUSTCAUSE2LOLOLOLOL Seriously look at the just cause 2 multiplayer mod, team fortress 2, or any of the top 10 steam games, because your opinion couldn't be more misinformed if you, throughout your entire life, had your head lodged so far up your arse you would have to chew your food twice.
That's such a bad argument. Because some people don't care about graphics that doesn't mean all don't care. Consoles are PCs and it's just a matter of time when the monopoly that console makers are enforcing is crushed.
George W. Bush WOW YOU SAY I HAVE MY HEAD UP MY ASS. THE GAMES WITH MOST HOURS PLAYED ON STEAM IS TF2(which is not a big deal i can run that on my old laptop at 60fps) COUNTER STRIKE SOURCE AND GARRY'S MOD. WOW PC GAMING GOES SO FUCKING FAR WITH ITS GRAPHICS. hell why stop at well known lets go to greenlight really quick... wow 7 games on just the first page that are pixelated you sure show those console gamers. and don't give me the bullshit of "oh they are independent" Because xbox arcade and psn show you can be an indie dev and make a game look FUCKING AWESOME. STOP AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND SEE FUCKING FACT. p.s cryse 3 and witcher do look great but are both long boring quests so i will give pc that they can shine a turd
DN N when i say pc elitest i mean those people who are like CONSOLE GAMING SUCKS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE AS HIGH GRAPHICS which makes other pc gamers look bad. there kinda like westburo baptist church in the way they make everyone not want to be part of a certain community
Graphics don't matter when the game has a good Aesthetic, and gameplay is always above graphics. But when graphics come into the discussion of PC Vs. Consoles, PC wins in terms of graphics. It's just a small part of why PCs are superior to consoles.
Yahtzee could you drown out Animal Crossing: New Leaf, I know you haven't played in about a year. Making fun of the villagers sounds like a good time for Let's Drown Out
it was a simple way of doing a loading progress, the tape input could be simply dumped directly to the raster during loading. I believe by not having the screen display and custom loaders could get a quicker load, other companies had maybe just a single flashing line or just a simple loading message, and mini games etc. also some loaders used the VIC2 chip to process some of the tape data to squeeze a quicker loading time. It became quite common, it didn't really matter on the CBMs because of the digital "Datacettes" but on 8bits that utilised portable taperecorders they were required so you could set the volume and see that the machine was actually loading the data. on Speccies (ZX spectrums) you needed to sometimes stop the tape between levels or segments of game play so the output was required, the CBMs had motor control so were pretty immune to this. you actually got used to them in the same way that when working at an ISP I could tell modem protocol errors in handshaking.
I honestly don't enjoy a lot of "let's plays", and even though I like the "Game Grumps" I have a hard time getting into them, but since Iv found this channel a few days ago, its been nothing but Dan and Yahtzee solving flesh puzzles and being philosophical and hilarious. For me this is a great way to listen to something funny and smart while doing house chores and browsing the internets. Keep on EuroTruckin' lads!
Grand solution for the whole framerate "debate": Just stop capping the fucking thing and let it run as it runs for fuck's sake. In many years of playing games from the NES to the Xbox 360, from Doom and Duke 3D (DOS shareware) on Win95 and shit like the 3D era Army Men and Rainbow Six games at 3-20 FPS on a Win98 machine to only having framerate issues with shitty ports (GTA IV) and incredibly demanding titles (Crysis 3 with AA other than FXAA, Arma 3), that is what I've found to be the best feeling, best running solution. Stop capping the damn thing and let the system run what it runs. Console or PC, just do it. Unless it's Skyrim, because apparently their shitty physics engine spazzes out all the time if you run over 60FPS.
Yeah. Even in the case of games where the mechanics are tied in with a particular framerate (Doom is tied in with 35fps due to 70hz monitor mode), you can always perform motion interpolation. Run the game mechanics at their native rate, render as fast as possible while "filling in the blanks" so to speak. Most modern Doom ports do this (fan-made, most official rereleases never bother because modern id is lazy).
No, you can't do that for every game, because some games link together framerate and updates. Doubling the framerate on certain games would literally double the speed of the game. This is why lots of, for instance, N64 games have "slowdown," because slowing of the FPS causes literally the rest of the game to slow down. Dark Souls, for instances, relies on frame data. If you force Dark Souls to be 60fps, the hit detection doesn't work right, and you will, for instance, fall right through the floor while sliding down a ladder. Games are built differently, you can't just force them all to be the same.
I cap demanding games at 30fps. On my rig, I can run almost any game but the extra frames just heat up the GPU and raise the fan speed which becomes audible and annoying. The only type of game I'll run uncapped is a racing sim.
***** That's the fault of companies designing their games around a hard-coded framerate cap.Solution: write better code. It's like choosing to implement an efficient, advanced sorting algorithm over insisting on keeping with some awful brute-force approach, if you catch the meaning behind my patented metaphors-nobody-gets-but-me. Let's not forget Dark Souls is a generally shit port that can't even be bothered to update button prompts to display anything but the xbox button shortcuts, *even if the player has no controller, and is using the keyboard and mouse to play*. Not to mention the need for a third party mod to actually render at anything but 1280x720... or another mod to make mouse movement work better. On the developer's side, my suggestion is more of a "for the future" idea; not so much for "fix your existing shit".
Xeros612 What do you mean no one gets but you? I did Computer Science with an emphasis in Game Development. Not only do I get your metaphor, I'm irritated that you think developers are that stupid. Game and engine dev is insanely fucking difficult, and not every studio has the time, budget or expertise to make a game so well optimized that it never sees any slowdown. That's reality. Deal with it.
Wow, I remember playing this game when I was a child, I did not understand what the hell I had to do though, but running around and spinning on the bike was enough for me! :D
So according to some of the genius people in the comment section, even 1 FPS is a-okay as long as the game looks pretty. high fps isn't just about how smooth something looks but how the fucking game feels, the lower the FPS the more handicaped you'll get. Christ i remember playing GTA 4 back when i still owned a 360 and that game would go under even 20 FPS in some cases and during those moment it felt like i was playing a slow mo version of the game with a 200MS delay on my controlls. Developers need to stop sacrificing frame rate for more pretty graphics, i want my games to play well, not run like ass.
I understand where you're coming from generally, but the difference between 30 and 60 fps is the difference between about 16ms per frame and about 33 ms per frame. Considering that it takes anywhere from 70-90ms for your eyes to even register that something just occurred, you're talking about 6 frames versus 3 frames at any given moment (assuming, of course, that mechanics and game updates are linked, and they're usually not). That difference is fucking tiny in terms of player performance. It may not look as nice, that's true, but it almost certainly isn't noticeable in terms of player inputs. Not until it drops below 30 or even 20.
***** Joke comment or...? I don't even know anymore. You people need to go play some character action, versus fighting or some fps games on PC. The difference between 30 and 60fps is most apparent there. It's not just about what framerate the individual perceives, it's about player input and responsiveness. Its VERY VERY noticeable.
I'm a big fan of Six-String Samurai saw it when I was a kid stuck with me all these in a sort of way, and to hear y'all talk about seeing it is awesome. Heck Igor & the red elvises is a band I still listen to.
Anaverageguy41 I think the steep consequences and the fact that it's a split second decision means that a person's reaction in that situation has to be a reflection of their true character. Nobody is going to be a selfish coward all their life and see a live grenade on the ground and their first reaction be to jump on top of it just because they will be thought of a hero afterwords. They're going to follow their instincts.
Both of them seem a bit grumpy this episode, maybe the early morning thing was a bad idea... They've always been talking about their good-old early days of gaming, but I guess they're usually not so grumpy.
Wisdom != Agreeing with you; I don't agree with him much either, but he's still an entertaining personality who expects a lot from his games, and I can get behind that :)
It's not much about agreeing with me, but...I mean come on, the 30fps thing was kinda dumb, but now he calls Gabe basically a parasite becouse he is a student and not a, let's say, factory worker. And the thing about deeming exercising a grand waste of time for thousandth time? It's really sounds like he is becoming an old fart. Exercising takes very little time, yet he has some kind of a complex behind gabe taking care for himself? Kinda ridiculus at some points.
***** Umm, how exactly? If you run it slower it will just run slower, animations are less smooth and input lag is bigger. That's all the difference there is. All of it. The games with less fps tend to look better becouse it's graphic quality that tanks the most on your hardware. If a developer wants lots and lots of polygons or a bucket of shaders he ends up with less fps. So it's not lowering fps that makes the game look better, but it's making a better looking game that makes fps be less. Is it good or bad? Can't say. In action-focused games i preffer things to run smooth, but if i dont need much reflex to be good at a game, I can take the 30fps count for some nicer graphics. As long as it's not going to burn my GPU.
First Six String Samurai and then A Boy and His Dog, are they reading off io9's top ten gonzo movies list? Wouldn't mind if they covered one or two others from that.
I have to say, I completely disagree with Yahtzee's sentiment that the United States should have kept Saddam Hussein in power. The entire problem in Iraq can all be linked to America supporting his dictatorship, and his war with Iran. The United States should never have supported him at all, and because they had for so long, all the extremism that had been boiling up finally broke free when he was booted.
The human eye can't really tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. Anyone who thinks they can tell the difference is lying to themselves. FPS is the gaming equivalent of those expensive audio cables; it makes no difference, but if you tell someone the FPS is 60 they'll fool themselves into genuinely believing that it looks better to them.
Who even needs a constant frame rate? I want my games to plunge to a tenth of their former smoothness the moment any new object appears on-screen. The graphics can just compensate for it with motion blur, anyway.
18:46 Welp, it was fun while it lasted. It was only a matter of time before Mr. Fedora decided to swoop in, tipping himself at every one of his m'ladies, claiming that all religion is false while standing on a razor's edge, because no one has heard opinions quite as daring as his. Oh, Mr. Fedora, how chivalrous you are. Maybe one day your supposed intellect will rub off on me, but as of this moment, you fail to be anything but child desperate for attention, to the point of criticizing others because they don't think how you think, in my eyes.
Yahtzee, the FPS thing is not a matter of opinion or taste. It's undeniable fact that 30fps looks worse than 60, and it's easily noticed. Literally look at any comparison between the two. If you can't see a difference, something is very wrong with your eyes.
Ehhh.. I think that the majority of difference is the programs that are running. Like if I'm playing Skyrim at 30 vs 60, there's a pretty noticeable difference. Or are you saying its noticeable regardless of the inherent quality of what's being played?
It depends more on what your system can handle. Consoles often can't handle full resolution at 60 fps, so they use 30 fps to allow the processor to output higher definition, resulting in better overall visuals. That said, if a PC game throttles frame rate to 30, then either the developer or publisher is an asshole. These days, you cannot make a game that a mid-high end PC cannot handle. It is a hazard of being a PC gamer that you have to watch out for high requirements if you are using a compy more than 3-5 years old. Consoles don't have to deal with that, which combined with average price are the only advantages they maintain.
But is looking better always better? Would you like your pixel art crisp or with a blurrer which makes it look nicer hm? DO you even watch the video? XD
Yes I do. I've seen all their videos. I even used "full stop" for their benefit because it is a British idiom. BTW "Is looking better always better" ......really? Pixel art looks bad with a blurrer because it is a BLURRER.
With the Sims 4. The non slug baby, and fully customisable pools, are 2 of the primary user mods and wants for Sims in general. So a person based in reality would say that EA is being business savvy by selling these as later priced extras, as they know that this cash cow will make a fortune regardless of how hard they reach their unlubricated arm up the already prolapsed anus of Sims fans. Now let's see how much they kill the modding and user generated content scene, it wouldn't surprise me if they introduce a shopfront to sell user generated content, (with EA/Maxis naming the price and cut) or even a priced SDK expansion pack.
I kind of want to see Gabe end up in a situation where he needs to play this game really well for a cash prize or to save a life, like in some kind of dramatic movie moment.
Thankfully, Star Wars 7 will not have Roberto Orci anywhere near it. Lawrence Kasdan, one of the guys responsible for Empire Strikes Back, is in it as a co-screenwriter. I'm actually moderately hopeful that they won't screw this up.
As a Spectrum owner, it's nice to see that my childhood belief that C64 owners were completely nuts turned out to be 100% accurate.
The C64 is just like "You're bored of my incredibly long loading time? Here have some seizures to kill the 15 minutes."
Watch the video at 144p for cinematic effect!
The fact that EA is referring to Sims 4 as "The Sims 4 base game" shows they intend to release as little as possible and have you micropay your way into an early bankruptcy.
Yup, they did. Fuck EA.
Ten years and 16 expansion packs later, and EA sure is true to form.
Who'd have guessed it!
On the subject of animals performing supposedly-selfless acts. There is such a thing as "group selection". As in, the natural selection of groups instead of the natural selection of individuals. Individuals who perform selfless acts are less likely to survive, mate, and propagate; however groups that have some individuals who are willing to perform selfless acts for the sake of the group are more likely to survive and propagate than groups that consist entirely of individuals who are all looking out for their own.
Ergo, it benefits a species as a whole, and this includes humans, to have the capacity for selflessness encoded into the species' DNA. So it's not that altruism is inherently selfish, but that altruism has the ulterior purpose of serving the survival of the species, rather than doing good for good's sake like some starry-eyed idealists might believe.
thanks for that very clear explanation, I was going to type much the same thing, but instead I'll link to these RadioLab productions on altruism: www.radiolab.org/story/103983-equation-good/ www.radiolab.org/story/103951-the-good-show/
Well, "altruism" _is_ a manifestation of selfishness (at a genetic level). Basically, your genes are telling you to sacrifice yourself because it benefits _their_ clones. It's a bit odd that, in 2015, some biologists still treat (and some teachers still teach) natural selection as something that happens at the _individual organism_ level.
17:52 I think that has to be one of Gabriel’s better retorts I’ve seen
Hard to believe this has been 6 years.
Yahtzee and Gabe are my favourite homosexuals on the internet.
OHHHHH YOUR SO CLEVER
question do you have any friends of the same sex?
JKPancake it was a joke dipshit -_-
WhyyoutubeWHY?!
and i thought it was very clever and asked a question. geez people can be so rude
JKPancake...Huh?
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Hurrr Duuur?
I started to like this series a lot
Whoa, you're here?
Jimmy Jarfy
I'm here too.
***** Hi not.
I'd like to be able to download it as an mp3. Just so I can enjoy the banter when I don't have time to sit in front of the computer.
heike1181 Enjoy: www.youtube-mp3.org/
I swear Yahtzee is just a cynical and pessimistic teddy bear who has gained sentience and learned how to adorn a fedora.
*trilby.
Only 10 seconds in, and Yahtzee calls Gabe a 'nob'.
It's funny 'cause you know they love each other really...maybe...
At this point, I'm still not sure if they are really close friends
Sometimes I like to look at old games like this and imagine Dave from Code Monkeys pitching it to Larrity.
So, mr. Croshaw, do there loading screens bring you the warmth of nostalgia or do you just like to see Gabe suffer through them?
he likes to be called Yahtzee for future reference
JKPancake He likes to be called Crystal on weekends though.
JKPancake Nah, call him Ben.
Also, Gabe's laugh at 1:03:43 is magnificent.
It might be a mix of both.
I actually had this game when I was a kid! On MS-Dos, tho (it had better graphics).
If I recall correctly, the 'hobo' dudes are supposed to be lawyers trying to sue the factory and shut it down. By punching you. Which never did really make much sense to me.
The US has really "good" lawyers
Really good defense lawyers anyways.
I realy want this game itself or as a remake because l like papers pleaze and i likeindustrial $#@*
Forward yourself to trump's America and then doesn't seem so unlikely
"There's a clog in the torso-chute" might be one of my new favorite quotes.
Oh, the loading. I remember this with my Atari 800 with the tape drive. Back then, when you wanted to play a game, you REALLY had to want to play that game.
27:20 So the charactor on the left is Max Rebo, and the one on the right is an Ithorian... cool stuff!
knob: a door knob to open a door
nob: that be yer wanger
*nob: Gabriel* fixed
Nob : Ork boss
This seems like an interesting game done in by the technical limits of its system. It definitely has a lot of mechanics going at once, and encourages methodical yet quick-thinking player action. It also escalates in an interesting way, as the machine adds more elements.
But the one-button controller and difficulty in describing its mechanics very well certainly didn't work in its favour. Probably won't see it on GOG anytime soon, but I think I'm safe in saying it's certainly a welcome surprise for any Lucasarts enthusiast.
Fortunately its mechanics of "remember to do these steps in a certain order, and do them quickly" has been done to better effect in games like Papers, Please, and it wouldn't hurt to see more games like this in the future, maybe even one with a similar premise to this.
The hobo is a disgruntled person who has gone mad and broke into the factory to "take down the Lucas machine that stole his life after he bought and played 50 copies of E.T.". The player is the new employee to ILM after everyone was fired in a crazy attempt by the CEO to maximize profit in the most insane way possible.
"This game is vampiring away my will to live you puckered orifice" Quote of the century!
Hey Yahtzee,
how about a Let's Drown Out episode about Kerbal Space Programm.
Should be really good to talk about stuff while it runs in the background.
Here, here.
It's a unique, modern crossroads of sandbox with educational value, and that in the department of rocket science.
Plus, explosions and engines are bound to amuse Gabe.
Yahtzee, next time you meet with TotalBiscuit, you should bring up your opinion on framerates in games. I think it will be an interesting discussion.
29:53 they do have a name. They're called Mets, though don't ask me how I know :P
Was a fan of a group of furry let's players. They loved Megaman, so that's how :P
I told you not to ask XD
mysterymastermind175 I just used to love megaman. One of the manuals told me that and I somehow just held on to that tiny tidbit of info.
Or Mettools. In the Battle Network games they're called Mettaurs.
***** Oh I thought they were on lycalled Mettaurs since I've only played battle network games. How interesting.
The human eye - on average - can easily detect the difference in smoothness between 30 and 60fps. Most people can't tell the difference above 60, but I am one of those who can, and I run my stuff at 144hz. When a game or video runs lower than the refresh rate of the screen displaying it (99% of the time 60hz, 50hz for PAL) there can be noticeable stutter and a weird time-shifting effect. This is not apparent to everyone, it depends on how your eyes and visual cortex perceive things. It also is not apparent on every game - it is most apparent in fast-paced FPS games (think Quake 3, TF2, CS:S, etc.). Some games, such as Oblivion, Skyrim, many RTS games, and so on are relatively smooth feeling at 30-40fps even for someone like me, though of course I can still tell the difference when it is higher, and prefer it. The really important bit is that the framerate stay consistent - it's better to have something run at 30fps constantly than jutter between 60 and 30 and in between. I agree with you on your point about Mario Kart 8 having 30fps for 4-player split-screen being fine. It's not optimal, but it's reasonable and understandable and certainly should be playable for that sort of game. However, it is a bit biased/egotistical to think that needing/wanting a framerate much higher is useless, just because your eyes/brain might not care - some of us perceive things in such a way that it really is much nicer for us when the framerates are higher.
I highly doubt Yahtzee cares anymore. ._.;
he never said he couldn't tell the difference. he said 60 looked worse to him.
Not to mention that higher fps=less input lag.
It's also somewhat egotistical, in my opinion, to consider 30fps as completely unplayable.
artemisfowl52 It's not egotistical at all. The choppiness of 30fps just feels frustrating to play a game with.
i like how yahtzee over exerted himself by sorting cans instead of doing something actually tiring
Like commenting on a TH-cam video about it
+stephen19590 like you did.
Perspective can be very evil sometimes, hypocrite.
JordyT1998 it's not hypocritical if your pointing it out
I never said that commenting was tiring tho
Some Dude I'm not even guna bother, it's like explaining the explaination of a statement
Whether or not 30fps looks better is debatable. How responsive it is, however, is not.
+Josh Barrett True.
Josh Barrett why does everyone need to point this out, like it's some kind of final mic drop? It doesn't matter, none of it matters. People will go for whichever silly frame number they like. The fact this is even something to get annoyed about it so dumb.
@@zombieslayer095 It's not about how fast you press, it's about how fast a press hits the screen.
Given, this matters more in some games than others: high-speed twitch arena FPS play waaay better at 60, whereas turn based strategy and a lot of third-person action runs fine at 30.
This also matters more in VR, where even 60 might not be enough.
@@THB192 I think that having a consistent frame rate is more important than having a higher frame rate.
@@qty1315 I would completely agree!
But consistant 60>consistant 30.
Actually Gabe, records have a demonstrably higher sound quality than CDs. Analogue (Vinyl) captures waveforms in a far more complete state while digital (CDs) simply captures samples that replicate the waveforms as best it can.
CDs won due to being convenient rather than actually being the superior product. This is why there's still plenty of modern band that continue to release albums on vinyl.
This is what hipsters actually believe.
OptimusSledge Only the ones who have bothered to actually look it up.
***** Vinyl approximates to 18bit digital, CDs are 16 bit. Ofcourse, Vinyl fails when compared to any decent digital format, which is the dominant way of delivering music the last 10+ years. Vinyl is nowadays all about collecting, not about quality of sound...
analogy is worse, but bands record things on vinyl because they can sell it for more money than they can make from cd's at gigs. also they have novelty value/ hipsters like them.
David Cook This guy right here though hahahaha.
Oh shit, the Beano. I had one of those as a kid, a thing my Mom brought over from England when her family moved to Canada, it was like a 1963 issue.
I just discovered this video now, DAMN, I'm VERY late to this party.
Vinyls sound better than CDs because you can't master them as loud and with as much distortion as you can with digital; a severely hot signal will make the needle jump off the record while you can get away with shipping a square wave on a disc and the public will be none the wiser.
No, too hot a signal will punch through the vinyl, which also brings up the fact that vinyl records have less dynamic range than a CD does.
As it began, so did it end
With Yhatzhee calling Gabriel a nob
playing video games to take a break from video games, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MOM!!!
I wonder if that "Looks better on film than it does on tape" is due to association. Things shot on film tended to be higher budget and better produced than things shot on tape, so the higher frame rate of tape says "shoddier" in people's minds.
+rlrsk8r1 Yes I watch these over again. So?
I remember these days. I remember putting in a game, running it and then going outside to play while the game loads lol
I want a web-series that consists of Yahtzee and Gabriel playing a co-op game together. Yahtzee must be drinking and really into the game, and Gabe is not allowed to care about the game at all. We listen to them argue in an increasingly enraged fashion, and there is a swear-word counter at the bottom.
This game is suprisingly pleasant, I don't know why but I like it a lot actually
I really never cared if a game is in 30fps or 60fps as long as I can play a game thats all I need
(my opinion)
Finally someone understands! What should make or a break a game is the gameplay and story. In my opinion anyway.
Lord North FPS does effect gameplay! I would prefer 60fps the whole time but in some single player games less isn't so much of an issue (though still sucks), however in multiplayer shooters it makes a huge difference as you have a higher response time. Below 60 feels like my mouse is in soup.
Lord North What I do think is unacceptable though is PC games/ports that are locked at 30fps, that is what I have a problem with. Generally if people can't run at 60fps then its normally because of their hardware or poor optimisation on belhalf of the devs.
PressStart420 Just imagine playing an FPS online against people with dropped framerates to 30fps. Yeah that would make a big difference. This is especially annoying in twitch shooters.
The way I see it, 19 FPS should be enough (that is the minimum FPS needed for your brain to see it together instead of rapidly changing pictures.)
@26:52
If I should venture a guess, I would say the blue one could very well be Howard the Duck.
But then again, I'm not too sure if LucasArts would want remind to people that the film existed in the first place...
Yahtzee is to me as podcasts are to Yahtz.
Vinyl records playback a true analogue wave. CDs and such playback a digital square wave approximation of an analogue wave.
So this is bollocks?
electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm
I love Gabe's exasperated responses to this game.
This is actually a neat idea for a game. I wish I had known about this before. It's a different take on a puzzle game with a logical purpose. I'd like to see other games that function similarly and perhaps expand and polish the idea. Maybe there is some and I just haven't seen them yet.
Any sort of "programming" style game is probably similar even if it doesn't quite look similar to Night Shift. SpaceChem seems to be a more modern example, and I'm sure others exist but most of the ones I recall I only do so hazily as it seems they existed more in the past compared to nowadays. There are also many puzzle games involving a precise series of steps, a la LEGO Junkbot or The Incredible Machine, though those might be a stretch for fitting in whatever genre Night Shit is.
Gabe needs to talk shit after he gets his big ass teacher job.
In reality mis-coloured Star Wars figures would be worth a mint
+beatchef Only to collectors though, and only in secondary sales that Lucas Film would get not a penny of.
+beatchef I believe the original run of Empire Strikes Back figures had an Ugnaut figure (one of the bounty hunters Vader hires) that was miscolored or something, if I remember correctly. And, yes, it is worth quite a bit.
+beatchef
Depends. If they would make a couple thousand or so by mistake (which would likely happen I guess) they probably would not be worth much. What makes them valuable is that most get thrown away and only very few survive.
Gabe's idea of a Sims game with a weird setting is really good. Their first setting should be medieval times.
it's already exists its called The Sims Medieval.
***** I believe that was the joke.
***** didn't look anything like a joke.and its not like the spin off is well known,case and point Gabe didn't know about it.
***** That's a pretty specific setting to mention for it to be a coinsidence.
From an aesthetic PoV, you can have your opinion. From a gameplay PoV 60 is always better.
No.
Jokeritu Fuck off, this isn't how you argue your point.
The reason why having as many FPS as possible is truth is because games aren't films. The less FPS you have, the less responsive a game feels. And guess what, this is one of those things that distinguish games from films, the interactivity.
lol, thought you meant FoV first like wtf are you a horse
It's a design decision. 30fps communicates weighty movement better than 60fps does.
***** No, not in any way.
30fps communicates input lag and non-smooth movement.
Thank you if I was the one person. Apologies if I wasn't. I was only about comment 93 and did check them to see if it had been posted but might have missed it.
TotalBiscuit: "The Great Frame-Rate Non-Debate" derails every single point made
According to the Megaman wiki, the Dustman stage (Robot Scrapyard) was a level in Megaman 4, the little enemies that would pop out from under their helmets are called Metall EX. According to the wiki that is.
Fun to see, fucking 20 years later, what I was supposed to do in this god damn game.
Yeah, I'm so glad I was playing Moon Rover and Math Blaster at this era instead. 5.5 floppys may not be elegant, but at least they aren't goddamn cassettes.
I found all the fighting games the other week unabashedly boring, but found this game fascinating, people have different tastes Gabriel.
Since Yahtzee likes Papers Please, I can definitely see how this kind of game would appeal to him. Night Shift seems mechanically very similar, it just doesn't really have much of a story or humor or overarching goal. As they said, it's very much a minimum effort quota simulator, because there doesn't really seem to be any incentive to do better than the minimum.
Well Yahtzee is sure hitting the nail on the head when he said he'd play boring games on this show.
Gabe in pain makes me smile. Do more of this Yahtzee!
i still have a CRT tv due well to poverty and its like 27" but when i play on a large led i cant shoot shit haha
They're called Mets, those Megaman enemies you're talking about.... heh I couldn't resist.
I never really knew about the commodore 64, amiga or these kinds of games growing up, though I suppose the Super Nintendo being my first console at a scant 4 or 5 years old and an N64 when I was 6 or 7 doesn't really leave much room for others. I did however have either my parents or family members who would have computers that could play Lemmings, that was about the extend of my computer-oriented gaming experiences back then...
Them talking about framerate is killing my brain cells, every time.
Not really, a game with a framerate of 30 objectively runs worse than a game with a framerate of 60. Whether or not you care if it's 30 or 60 doesn't matter, if it runs at 60 it also runs above 30 so both parties are happy. If it runs at 30 then the people that want it at 60 are not happy.
Their "point" is they don't care, which is bullshit since they love to talk about it.
"They love to talk aoout it" is dumb because they hardly ever talk about it except responding to people yelling at them.
thanks for these videos guys. They make excelent podcasts I don't have to pay attention to while doing work.
YESSS MORE YAHTZEE GABRIEL
We want more
My assertion is that when I watch the telly, I want to feel I'm standing there while the events are happening, but I don't want to feel like I am standing there it is being filmed
i love how some pc elitest will say pc has better graphics then consoles and then play something like minecraft or counter strike source for 1500 hours
LOLOLOLOLCRYSIS3LOLOLOLWITCHER2LOLOLOLOLJUSTCAUSE2LOLOLOLOL
Seriously look at the just cause 2 multiplayer mod, team fortress 2, or any of the top 10 steam games, because your opinion couldn't be more misinformed if you, throughout your entire life, had your head lodged so far up your arse you would have to chew your food twice.
That's such a bad argument. Because some people don't care about graphics that doesn't mean all don't care. Consoles are PCs and it's just a matter of time when the monopoly that console makers are enforcing is crushed.
George W. Bush
WOW YOU SAY I HAVE MY HEAD UP MY ASS. THE GAMES WITH MOST HOURS PLAYED ON STEAM IS TF2(which is not a big deal i can run that on my old laptop at 60fps) COUNTER STRIKE SOURCE AND GARRY'S MOD. WOW PC GAMING GOES SO FUCKING FAR WITH ITS GRAPHICS.
hell why stop at well known lets go to greenlight really quick... wow 7 games on just the first page that are pixelated you sure show those console gamers. and don't give me the bullshit of "oh they are independent" Because xbox arcade and psn show you can be an indie dev and make a game look FUCKING AWESOME. STOP AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND SEE FUCKING FACT.
p.s cryse 3 and witcher do look great but are both long boring quests so i will give pc that they can shine a turd
DN N
when i say pc elitest i mean those people who are like CONSOLE GAMING SUCKS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE AS HIGH GRAPHICS which makes other pc gamers look bad. there kinda like westburo baptist church in the way they make everyone not want to be part of a certain community
Graphics don't matter when the game has a good Aesthetic, and gameplay is always above graphics. But when graphics come into the discussion of PC Vs. Consoles, PC wins in terms of graphics. It's just a small part of why PCs are superior to consoles.
I read the title wrong and thought they were drowning out Night Trap. Now that would be a sight to see.
Yahtzee could you drown out Animal Crossing: New Leaf, I know you haven't played in about a year. Making fun of the villagers sounds like a good time for Let's Drown Out
Or just slowly expanding his meticulous catalogue with fish and insects...
For that he would need a 3DS hacked to have a video output or a built-in capture card.
Ah, sorry I did not know what they would go through to film the game.
P
Congrats to Gabe on finishing his exams. I've quite grown to admire his drive to improve his life and control it the way he desires.
Why would they make such a horrible, headache inducing loading screen?
it was a simple way of doing a loading progress, the tape input could be simply dumped directly to the raster during loading.
I believe by not having the screen display and custom loaders could get a quicker load, other companies had maybe just a single flashing line or just a simple loading message, and mini games etc. also some loaders used the VIC2 chip to process some of the tape data to squeeze a quicker loading time.
It became quite common, it didn't really matter on the CBMs because of the digital "Datacettes" but on 8bits that utilised portable taperecorders they were required so you could set the volume and see that the machine was actually loading the data.
on Speccies (ZX spectrums) you needed to sometimes stop the tape between levels or segments of game play so the output was required, the CBMs had motor control so were pretty immune to this. you actually got used to them in the same way that when working at an ISP I could tell modem protocol errors in handshaking.
Furi Kitten
Awesome, so it actually had a purpose.
It looked like a loading screen from one of the Silent Hill games to me.
+Kenneth Lewis Because 1980s.
rustybender
No because actually what the first comment said.
I honestly don't enjoy a lot of "let's plays", and even though I like the "Game Grumps" I have a hard time getting into them, but since Iv found this channel a few days ago, its been nothing but Dan and Yahtzee solving flesh puzzles and being philosophical and hilarious. For me this is a great way to listen to something funny and smart while doing house chores and browsing the internets. Keep on EuroTruckin' lads!
Grand solution for the whole framerate "debate": Just stop capping the fucking thing and let it run as it runs for fuck's sake. In many years of playing games from the NES to the Xbox 360, from Doom and Duke 3D (DOS shareware) on Win95 and shit like the 3D era Army Men and Rainbow Six games at 3-20 FPS on a Win98 machine to only having framerate issues with shitty ports (GTA IV) and incredibly demanding titles (Crysis 3 with AA other than FXAA, Arma 3), that is what I've found to be the best feeling, best running solution.
Stop capping the damn thing and let the system run what it runs. Console or PC, just do it.
Unless it's Skyrim, because apparently their shitty physics engine spazzes out all the time if you run over 60FPS.
Yeah. Even in the case of games where the mechanics are tied in with a particular framerate (Doom is tied in with 35fps due to 70hz monitor mode), you can always perform motion interpolation. Run the game mechanics at their native rate, render as fast as possible while "filling in the blanks" so to speak. Most modern Doom ports do this (fan-made, most official rereleases never bother because modern id is lazy).
No, you can't do that for every game, because some games link together framerate and updates. Doubling the framerate on certain games would literally double the speed of the game. This is why lots of, for instance, N64 games have "slowdown," because slowing of the FPS causes literally the rest of the game to slow down.
Dark Souls, for instances, relies on frame data. If you force Dark Souls to be 60fps, the hit detection doesn't work right, and you will, for instance, fall right through the floor while sliding down a ladder.
Games are built differently, you can't just force them all to be the same.
I cap demanding games at 30fps. On my rig, I can run almost any game but the extra frames just heat up the GPU and raise the fan speed which becomes audible and annoying. The only type of game I'll run uncapped is a racing sim.
***** That's the fault of companies designing their games around a hard-coded framerate cap.Solution: write better code.
It's like choosing to implement an efficient, advanced sorting algorithm over insisting on keeping with some awful brute-force approach, if you catch the meaning behind my patented metaphors-nobody-gets-but-me.
Let's not forget Dark Souls is a generally shit port that can't even be bothered to update button prompts to display anything but the xbox button shortcuts, *even if the player has no controller, and is using the keyboard and mouse to play*. Not to mention the need for a third party mod to actually render at anything but 1280x720... or another mod to make mouse movement work better.
On the developer's side, my suggestion is more of a "for the future" idea; not so much for "fix your existing shit".
Xeros612 What do you mean no one gets but you? I did Computer Science with an emphasis in Game Development. Not only do I get your metaphor, I'm irritated that you think developers are that stupid.
Game and engine dev is insanely fucking difficult, and not every studio has the time, budget or expertise to make a game so well optimized that it never sees any slowdown.
That's reality. Deal with it.
You all's Star Trek made me laugh out loud, probably more than it should have, cheers.
But Fps is not a thing which enhances graphics..........
Wow, I remember playing this game when I was a child, I did not understand what the hell I had to do though, but running around and spinning on the bike was enough for me! :D
So according to some of the genius people in the comment section, even 1 FPS is a-okay as long as the game looks pretty.
high fps isn't just about how smooth something looks but how the fucking game feels, the lower the FPS the more handicaped you'll get.
Christ i remember playing GTA 4 back when i still owned a 360 and that game would go under even 20 FPS in some cases and during those moment it felt like i was playing a slow mo version of the game with a 200MS delay on my controlls.
Developers need to stop sacrificing frame rate for more pretty graphics, i want my games to play well, not run like ass.
I understand where you're coming from generally, but the difference between 30 and 60 fps is the difference between about 16ms per frame and about 33 ms per frame.
Considering that it takes anywhere from 70-90ms for your eyes to even register that something just occurred, you're talking about 6 frames versus 3 frames at any given moment (assuming, of course, that mechanics and game updates are linked, and they're usually not).
That difference is fucking tiny in terms of player performance. It may not look as nice, that's true, but it almost certainly isn't noticeable in terms of player inputs. Not until it drops below 30 or even 20.
*****
I would never have played Monkey Island if it had not been 60fps........
Unlocktube Poe's law is in effect. I genuinely do not know if you're serious.
***** I am most certainly, beyond any shadow of a doubt, as assured as can be, not serious.
*****
Joke comment or...? I don't even know anymore. You people need to go play some character action, versus fighting or some fps games on PC. The difference between 30 and 60fps is most apparent there. It's not just about what framerate the individual perceives, it's about player input and responsiveness. Its VERY VERY noticeable.
Well, to be fair the Wii Remote does use a camera of some sort that only sees infrared light. It is how it sees the infrared LEDs of the Sensor Bar.
Gabrielis A. Nob
Is it sad that I kept humming the Breakfast Machine tune as I watched the machines at work?
can u guys play paper please, its a masterpiece everyone should see
then it's not boring :P
***** but i still want it :P
***** Its actually quite boring so...
well then it'd be a lets play (you might get it, yahtzee loves the game.)
Its a bloody paperwork simulaater how exiting do you think it is
I'm a big fan of Six-String Samurai saw it when I was a kid stuck with me all these in a sort of way, and to hear y'all talk about seeing it is awesome. Heck Igor & the red elvises is a band I still listen to.
thats bad game design yahtzee... goto statements have been banned by the geneva convention
six string samurai was my favorite movie when i was a kid, i haven't thought about it in years
"There's no such thing as a selfless act." What about a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to save the lives of others?
Depends why he did it, doesn't it
Anaverageguy41 If he's resigned himself to be torn to shreds, its not going to do much for his ego.
He may be doing it as it's a heroic act? Or because he's got nothing better to do and has the aim of a stormtrooper?
Anaverageguy41 I think the steep consequences and the fact that it's a split second decision means that a person's reaction in that situation has to be a reflection of their true character. Nobody is going to be a selfish coward all their life and see a live grenade on the ground and their first reaction be to jump on top of it just because they will be thought of a hero afterwords. They're going to follow their instincts.
Shane H But what if they're only doing it for a reward in an afterlife they believe in? Then it's a selfish act.
I bet these two have an incredible amount of fun.
that intro. bwahahahaha
the moment they started saying "red balloon", I thought of the clown scene from 7th guest
Back in the day I tought that Yathzee is a pretty wise guy.
Nowdays I think he is a grumpy grandpa. He talks like that kinda old fart.
Both of them seem a bit grumpy this episode, maybe the early morning thing was a bad idea... They've always been talking about their good-old early days of gaming, but I guess they're usually not so grumpy.
Wisdom != Agreeing with you;
I don't agree with him much either, but he's still an entertaining personality who expects a lot from his games, and I can get behind that :)
It's not much about agreeing with me, but...I mean come on, the 30fps thing was kinda dumb, but now he calls Gabe basically a parasite becouse he is a student and not a, let's say, factory worker. And the thing about deeming exercising a grand waste of time for thousandth time?
It's really sounds like he is becoming an old fart. Exercising takes very little time, yet he has some kind of a complex behind gabe taking care for himself?
Kinda ridiculus at some points.
*****
Umm, how exactly? If you run it slower it will just run slower, animations are less smooth and input lag is bigger. That's all the difference there is. All of it.
The games with less fps tend to look better becouse it's graphic quality that tanks the most on your hardware. If a developer wants lots and lots of polygons or a bucket of shaders he ends up with less fps. So it's not lowering fps that makes the game look better, but it's making a better looking game that makes fps be less.
Is it good or bad? Can't say. In action-focused games i preffer things to run smooth, but if i dont need much reflex to be good at a game, I can take the 30fps count for some nicer graphics. As long as it's not going to burn my GPU.
First Six String Samurai and then A Boy and His Dog, are they reading off io9's top ten gonzo movies list? Wouldn't mind if they covered one or two others from that.
I have to say, I completely disagree with Yahtzee's sentiment that the United States should have kept Saddam Hussein in power. The entire problem in Iraq can all be linked to America supporting his dictatorship, and his war with Iran. The United States should never have supported him at all, and because they had for so long, all the extremism that had been boiling up finally broke free when he was booted.
So it's looks like a blue Ework and ILM did special effects for E.T. so it could be him and still fit the joke.
The human eye can't really tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. Anyone who thinks they can tell the difference is lying to themselves. FPS is the gaming equivalent of those expensive audio cables; it makes no difference, but if you tell someone the FPS is 60 they'll fool themselves into genuinely believing that it looks better to them.
That's total bullshit.
Lord Yllsacky Ah, a scientific rebuttal.
Seeing as how you don't already get it I won't even bother.
Lord Yllsacky Weak.
Indeed.
One of my favorite games, Jet Set Radio, alongside other old console games, run 30 FPS locked. Plays magnificently might I add.
I CAN ARGUE AGAINST IT, AND I WILL, HA!
5 FPS looks smoother than 15 FPS
1 fps looks better than 100 fps
0.000000001 fps is better than 60 fps because consoles
Who even needs a constant frame rate? I want my games to plunge to a tenth of their former smoothness the moment any new object appears on-screen. The graphics can just compensate for it with motion blur, anyway.
As someone who has personally experienced both, I can say that is not true.
18:46 Welp, it was fun while it lasted. It was only a matter of time before Mr. Fedora decided to swoop in, tipping himself at every one of his m'ladies, claiming that all religion is false while standing on a razor's edge, because no one has heard opinions quite as daring as his. Oh, Mr. Fedora, how chivalrous you are. Maybe one day your supposed intellect will rub off on me, but as of this moment, you fail to be anything but child desperate for attention, to the point of criticizing others because they don't think how you think, in my eyes.
Yahtzee, the FPS thing is not a matter of opinion or taste. It's undeniable fact that 30fps looks worse than 60, and it's easily noticed. Literally look at any comparison between the two. If you can't see a difference, something is very wrong with your eyes.
Ehhh.. I think that the majority of difference is the programs that are running. Like if I'm playing Skyrim at 30 vs 60, there's a pretty noticeable difference. Or are you saying its noticeable regardless of the inherent quality of what's being played?
It depends more on what your system can handle. Consoles often can't handle full resolution at 60 fps, so they use 30 fps to allow the processor to output higher definition, resulting in better overall visuals.
That said, if a PC game throttles frame rate to 30, then either the developer or publisher is an asshole. These days, you cannot make a game that a mid-high end PC cannot handle. It is a hazard of being a PC gamer that you have to watch out for high requirements if you are using a compy more than 3-5 years old. Consoles don't have to deal with that, which combined with average price are the only advantages they maintain.
Oh, go fuck your self
Pretty sure it was Raymond Scott who did Powerhouse but this game is very much in need of it.
60 PFS does look better, and you both are wrong. Full stop.
But is looking better always better? Would you like your pixel art crisp or with a blurrer which makes it look nicer hm? DO you even watch the video? XD
Yes I do. I've seen all their videos. I even used "full stop" for their benefit because it is a British idiom. BTW "Is looking better always better" ......really? Pixel art looks bad with a blurrer because it is a BLURRER.
what if everything is stationary 0.o
*****
Then you aren't playing a game. You are looking at a painting.
what if its a hidden object game?
"This game is vampiring away my will to live!"
Now that's a turn of phrase; I must use it more often!
would the punch glove knock the hobo out of the engine room?
I had a moment of "Are they playing Vice CIty?"
With the Sims 4. The non slug baby, and fully customisable pools, are 2 of the primary user mods and wants for Sims in general.
So a person based in reality would say that EA is being business savvy by selling these as later priced extras, as they know that this cash cow will make a fortune regardless of how hard they reach their unlubricated arm up the already prolapsed anus of Sims fans.
Now let's see how much they kill the modding and user generated content scene, it wouldn't surprise me if they introduce a shopfront to sell user generated content, (with EA/Maxis naming the price and cut) or even a priced SDK expansion pack.
I want to start a fund, so that Gabe doesn't have to donate his vital fluids.
also Yahtzee's funny northerner voice sounds like paulisthebestuk
I kind of want to see Gabe end up in a situation where he needs to play this game really well for a cash prize or to save a life, like in some kind of dramatic movie moment.
Thankfully, Star Wars 7 will not have Roberto Orci anywhere near it. Lawrence Kasdan, one of the guys responsible for Empire Strikes Back, is in it as a co-screenwriter. I'm actually moderately hopeful that they won't screw this up.