Patents must be documented to be granted. It’s an invitation to copy, and is expected to be done by bad actors. Elon doesn’t like patents and SpaceX doesn’t apply for them.
I don't disagree, but it's also funny watching them boast about their Temu quality products. This, hypersonics, the J35 and, literally, every other piece of advanced technology are just Science Fair quality garbage.
Their goal is not to develop anything, it’s to steal and copy plain and simple. You can’t copy creativity, innovation, inspiration, and unless they steal one they can’t copy a raptor three!
Copying doesn't mean understanding. SpaceX does not put the crucial bits in the public domain. A political commissariat will not understand nor accept this. My advice to the Chinese engineers is to run!
@ no and I’d e ot is someone who points out that china made the first rocket…. As if that negates them a thousand years later copying tech….. china wasn’t even China back then, let alone the People’s Republic of china
@@eman67rp Forty years as a successful NASA System Engineer, designing, ground, manned, spaceflight instruments and space missions would argue otherwise, troll.
no. this is result of authoritarian government and lack of free speech. It change mentality to "nail that sticks out, ask for hammer". Inititaive in that system will ALWAYS come from the top. Initiative from down, will be always downplayed, especially by investors. This is why china is so good in copying (decision from the top), even making thing better , but original ideas are so rare, and implementation will be for very cheap stuff where risk is miniscule. I am from former communist country, so that kind of mentality and similar behaviour is very known to me. We had quite a lot own engineering achievements (like andoria, diesel engine that was actually better than vw, engine at the time, but was shelved till late 90. While developed in late 70. Or very good our own microprocessor and home computer system, while it wasn't implemented into production because of politics. ) that never were implemented because they wasn't "green lighted" by government.
Elon single handedly started the 2nd Space Race... thats pretty nuts. I was alive for the first and this has the same feeling and momentum of the old days but without the cold war.
Cuz Chinese people are poor..they don’t have billionaires only the government have all business in China is own by government not by its people that’s why China is Poor
While they wait for other R&D interns intentionally situated across the American universities lab, they just need some of their "Space X" interns to return home immediately so they can perform another "upgrade" from the new details taken.
SpaceX must ensure all of their designs are stored on air gap systems to make sure Chinese "computer technicians" don't accidentally download files they shouldn't have.
@@colonbina1 It's risky trying to make a knockoff before the original is finished. Not just in terms of wasted resources, but also in shame. Imagine if Elon came out tomorrow and announced there was some major issue necessitating major redesign. What are the CCP's puppet companies going to do? Pause everything to wait and see what the new design looks like? Gonna be hard to sell that to investors as "cutting-edge innovation."
It's not as much the technology lagging behind that is their problem. It's larger trend more at the heart of their societies. Fear of chaos-to put it (too) simply. Fear of the chaos inside each individual. Fear of chaotic institutions, unmanaged by any government. Fear of chaotic governments themselves. (Lived in China 20 years; fear was in the air.)
That's not their issue, they can't build an organization like Elon can. Nobody can. SpaceX engineers are poached everyday and nobody out of dozens of companies is competing. Theres some promising small companies that are way behind, and then there's boondoggles like Blue Origin
You call SpaceX ''low cost''? Do you even money, mate ?! - That shit bleeds dollars and comum Americans are fitting most of the bill and wastefullness.
There is no such thing as private aerospace company in China. It is unthinkable that the PRC government would allow any private company to venture into this sensitive field. These companies thrive on government funding and will die when funding dries up, similar to the "semiconductor big leap" in the past few years.
This looks like a complete starship copy, and the fact they are doing this with 1 billion (Probably all government funding, not private) will make it unachievable, considering SpaceX puts 150 million (Mostly privately invested) minimum into each launch and has had quite a few failures to learn. SpaceX is worth 255 billion and has been doing this for over 10 years now, China has yet to successfully land a rocket. It has been doing it for the past 3 years now and has been failing pretty much every time, SpaceX managed to do it after 16 launch attempts and platform tests and only took 8 tests before the Grasshopper was successful, and all 8 of the Grasshopper tests were successful, it took them less than 3 years to successfully land a booster from space, for China 3 years in itself with only one successful landing is not good, the rest from all startups have been failures, they will need at least another 5 to stick landings on the ground let alone a landing tower. They copy the tech but don't fully understand it, and they also can't copy the work environment of Western companies as well, that's an important step to even achieving this, in fact, all of the aerospace companies in China are not privately owned, they are all tied to the Chinese government, most of their "Private companies" in general are not privately owned, they are nationalized. That is why Western companies have achieved so much, they don't have the government breathing down their backs as heavily as their Chinese counterparts, Western companies are also allowed to do a lot more due to private funding. I will believe it when I see it, but for now it's just a pipe dream.
There is still a lot of work to do. The landing was nowhere near as gentle as it seems, plus from what I understand it was not without damage either. Thirdly and not least, the landing seems to be a bit lucky too! Let's see if the feat can be repeated.
Great script Kevin. I don't think having the chopstick catch tower on a floating platform is a good idea for the company's first or second generation rocket - It is likely to be expensive to maintain - Much easier to build/fix/maintain on land. Even SpaceX abandoned the floating platform/tower idea as it is probably better to do such a project further down the track with a larger and more mature fully reusable system. In fact I would go further to say making such a decision gives evidence they are being a little unrealistic and more likely to go bankrupt.
spaceX funding for starship was 5 bilions till end of 2023, with 2 bilions only in 2023. major investment started pretty late. So INITIAL money can be small, but they are spend on developing ie engines and initial computer simulations, or material testing. Big money can come later.
When i was working for GE (General electric) i heard the rumor about how China was stealing top notch R&D confidential information from GE system. During that i had communicated with some of the engineering team they had too many restrictions there workstation.
This reminds me of when Russia produced a copy of a captured American bomber. When the Russians discovered that they couldn’t reproduce the necessary tires, they simply sent 2 KGB agents, over to the USA, to buy the needed tires, on the Black Market.
Would anyone trust sending payloads via China? By Chinese law, every company is required to assist the government when needed. So they can play the payload hostage game if they have any issue with you or reverse engineer your satellite to steal technology for themselves.
Well Russia was leading for almost a decade. Under similar circumstances. So there’s no limit to a communist government will do to exploit their citizens, and slave labor to death.
Sacrificing the survival of civilians for the sake of national interests is a very politically correct thing for us. It seems very inhumane, but it is really not easy for ordinary people to change political correctness. I believe many friends from the West can agree with what I say.
Many in the West may not know this: In China, there's no shame assigned to stealing and copying, especially to steal and copy from foreign countries, which is actually encouraged.
Nor should there be any shame. I am from the UK and we invented everything, and I'm fine with the Chinese copying stuff and making things better than we do. The Chinese are the best makers. We all need to be the best at something. There's loads of stuff the Chinese are better than us at, and we truly admire and respect them for it. Ignore the small minds. The problem is people confuse international patent law with morality. It is not stealing. This idea that ideas can be stolen emerged from modern copyright and patent laws, and is a false concept. Theft is to do with property. Intellectual property is a construct to protect innovation, which is entirely motivated by commerce and not morality, so do not put it in the same category as taking physical property, which is morally wrong, and a different thing.
It is not like SpaceX did this overnight. They have been developing this tech for years. It is unlikely this Chinese start up can copy this in a year or two. And they will need many funding rounds. Unless they cheated and actually got all SpaceX's data.
The problem with stealing/copying tech and creating it is that when you create a new technology, you get what you could create, slightly less that what you imagined. But, when you copy someone else’s creation, you get what you could copy, slightly less than what you intended to copy. Thus, a copycat is always less than the original creator. It’s not my rule or Elon’s rule, it’s the reality between what you imagine and what you can create, what you aim to achieve and what you achieve. I liken it to aiming an arrow at a target; you always hit a bit lower than what you aimed at. Creators aim at their imagined goal; copycats aim at what was already accomplished: both hit lower than they had wished, but one hits lower than the other.
Your narrative shows how a copycat thinks within a box. Obviously you are not an engineer but a bugs bunny, because in engineering, engineers always say "show me your design and I always can make it better." In fact this engineer's philosophy propels civilization forward, the West's zero-sum, beggar-thy-neighbor, a dog in the manger, greed and negativity philosophy like yours always make things regress.
@@unholydanger lmao no we just kept the scientist from Nazi party an let them share their research an built the V2 with Werner Von Braun no different than what Russia did their scientist came from Germany also hence the reason the US and Russia having space programs before anybody else I know how we got started did you 🤔?
@@jeanschaeffer4225 the Germans most certainly did not build our space shuttle try again they helped with the V2 rocket an we went from there ...Von Braun died in 1977 the space shuttle wasn't made until the 80's so no the Germans had nothing to do with that space program the Apollo missions yea but space shuttle no!!!
@@unholydanger we didn't copy shit we captured these Nazi scientists an made them work for us they worked in collaboration with Werner Von Braun to create the first Saturn rocket after he made the V2 for the Nazis an it don't matter where we got it the fact is we got it an now we have more way more Starship with 32/33 raptor engines for one that can take off an land an retake off something nobody else can do to this day other than Space X
Is the CCP embarrassed because they can't use chopsticks? Making very difficult things look simple isn't ever easy.
Got the joke - GOOD one! 😆
Maybe they should use spoons😆😆😆
Hahahahaha nice!!!!
Another reason why the U.S. needs to defend patent rights against the stealing Chinese.
America should incentivize products being made in America and they wouldn't be able to do it.
Patents must be documented to be granted. It’s an invitation to copy, and is expected to be done by bad actors. Elon doesn’t like patents and SpaceX doesn’t apply for them.
I don't disagree, but it's also funny watching them boast about their Temu quality products.
This, hypersonics, the J35 and, literally, every other piece of advanced technology are just Science Fair quality garbage.
“Made in China,” has always been a warning label.
Their goal is not to develop anything, it’s to steal and copy plain and simple. You can’t copy creativity, innovation, inspiration, and unless they steal one they can’t copy a raptor three!
Copying doesn't mean understanding. SpaceX does not put the crucial bits in the public domain. A political commissariat will not understand nor accept this. My advice to the Chinese engineers is to run!
So did Ford "Copy" the car from Germany. And you are aware the first Rockets were invented in China. You sound like and I'd ot
@ no and I’d e ot is someone who points out that china made the first rocket…. As if that negates them a thousand years later copying tech…..
china wasn’t even China back then, let alone the People’s Republic of china
@@eman67rp Forty years as a successful NASA System Engineer, designing, ground, manned, spaceflight instruments and space missions would argue otherwise, troll.
The problem is that there used to be a bunch of dudes who perfected copying. They formed the Roman Empire.
Do they ever have any original ideas?😂
SpaceX stole their chopsticks from China!
Yes,the chinese eat with those 100 tonnes chopsticks,indeed. I suspect you are ironic in your comment.@@ronald3836
then how chopstick survived landing😂@@ronald3836
no. this is result of authoritarian government and lack of free speech. It change mentality to "nail that sticks out, ask for hammer". Inititaive in that system will ALWAYS come from the top. Initiative from down, will be always downplayed, especially by investors. This is why china is so good in copying (decision from the top), even making thing better , but original ideas are so rare, and implementation will be for very cheap stuff where risk is miniscule.
I am from former communist country, so that kind of mentality and similar behaviour is very known to me. We had quite a lot own engineering achievements (like andoria, diesel engine that was actually better than vw, engine at the time, but was shelved till late 90. While developed in late 70. Or very good our own microprocessor and home computer system, while it wasn't implemented into production because of politics. ) that never were implemented because they wasn't "green lighted" by government.
They are very adept programmers and cybersecurity hackers. They provide many challenges for IT people to try to secure their networks
Copying spaceX with a 3d software animation is not a success.
They literally wanna claim and copy everything😑
As expected "made in China" 😂
Who else noticed that China never copied Starliner nor New Glenn? ... 😮😮😮
Elon single handedly started the 2nd Space Race... thats pretty nuts. I was alive for the first and this has the same feeling and momentum of the old days but without the cold war.
hahahahahahahahaha yeeeeeeee by stealing 30 year old tech from DC-X Delta Cliper hahahahahahaha
$14 million? You won't get far on that in the space industry.
China is the best at copying something. It’s just 30% as good as the original. 😂
What is the original? Almost all products used today in the USA are Made in China. Even MAGA hats...
Ordered one from TEMU. Can’t wait to try it🇦🇺🤠👍
Haha, yes.
I am so glad Elon is an American.
Elon is a salesman.
Tank the engineers, technicians and programmers.....
Yeah yeah
He's South African...
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Just a salesman? You might want to check your information
2:23 $14 million is not a substantial funding result
The difference between them is..Elon spends his own money vs. China's whole country budget..
Cuz Chinese people are poor..they don’t have billionaires only the government have all business in China is own by government not by its people that’s why China is Poor
Made in China, order on Temu😂
$14 millions USD is a drop in a bucket that is clearly insufficient to develop such a complex system.
Issue is the suppliers. Musk pays higher prices for higher grade parts. China doesn't get anything from outside of china.
China's Bad Habit is Copycat... Bravo
What happens when you order your SpaceX rockets on Temu, folks!
Whatever cool tech that the free world has created, China wants one too😅
China bootlegging someone elses approach? Say it ain't so.
Trying to copy great innovation just makes sense, but you need equally brilliant engineers and great leadership for any chance to pull it off.
Those are quite ambitious goals for a developing country known for all its completely unique inventions.
Copying is not hard. Copying successfully is nigh impossible.
A copy and paste Nation
While they wait for other R&D interns intentionally situated across the American universities lab, they just need some of their "Space X" interns to return home immediately so they can perform another "upgrade" from the new details taken.
China copy literally everything 😂
Chinese spy can steal from SPACEX...
Well Elon Musk Still having his Tesla factory In Shanghai 😂😂😂😂😂
To mimic is because you can’t invent anything…?😮
It was a crazy concept to start with and it worked. Still a crazy concept. Mind blowing.
Yeah, they are actually pathetic!! BAD copies that look OK, but don't work!!..RUBBISH!!!!😮
SpaceX must ensure all of their designs are stored on air gap systems to make sure Chinese "computer technicians" don't accidentally download files they shouldn't have.
China still needs to purchase jet engines from Russia. How do they think they are going to pull this off.
It's easy, just copy and paste and watch the yuan fill their bank accounts...😆
"Made in China" taken to the next level. 🤣
I feel like watching Iron Man 2 real-life version.
They're gonna be pissed if it turns out they copied a lemon.
Why?
@colonbina1 Because it'll mean they wasted their time copying an unviable design.
@@colonbina1 It's risky trying to make a knockoff before the original is finished. Not just in terms of wasted resources, but also in shame.
Imagine if Elon came out tomorrow and announced there was some major issue necessitating major redesign. What are the CCP's puppet companies going to do? Pause everything to wait and see what the new design looks like? Gonna be hard to sell that to investors as "cutting-edge innovation."
Dji drones/quadcopters are wholly Chinese origin and are superb. Don’t underestimate.
Long March 9? Wasn't it criticized by the Chinese as a PPT rocket? But many Chinese self-media believe it is a great symbol of national rejuvenation.
Dude. Drones are just glorified RC toys and nothing special about them.
USA is already flying AI piloted Jet fighters and AI submarines. lol
Russian and Chinese technology lags a century behind America😮😮
Not really century just 10 years or less
@@solarium4659 still it's far
@@darkflamemaster6541 yes they are still far. Maybe further than my estimate to be honest.
That is because of COMMUNISM. 80 YEARS OF STRANGULATION.
It's not as much the technology lagging behind that is their problem. It's larger trend more at the heart of their societies.
Fear of chaos-to put it (too) simply.
Fear of the chaos inside each individual.
Fear of chaotic institutions, unmanaged by any government.
Fear of chaotic governments themselves.
(Lived in China 20 years; fear was in the air.)
2:38 only a AI can say those names that fast 😅
They want to copy SpaceX so they can put their rockets on Temu for sale
There's one major major thing that they lack (Elon)
shameless 😂
Haha. China can’t even build buildings right. I bet you they can’t do it.
Like in the movie, China is attempting to replicate Iron Man's suit. My concern is that they have enough cash to potentially lure a SpaceX engineer.
That's not their issue, they can't build an organization like Elon can. Nobody can. SpaceX engineers are poached everyday and nobody out of dozens of companies is competing. Theres some promising small companies that are way behind, and then there's boondoggles like Blue Origin
Low cost space flight has only been done by SpaceX and ISRO.
You call SpaceX ''low cost''? Do you even money, mate ?! - That shit bleeds dollars and comum Americans are fitting most of the bill and wastefullness.
Agree
China has never had original of their innovation
Blue Origin has proven it takes more than money to succeed in the space game.
Anyone realize the irony of the name Firestone and things tending to explode from back in the early 2000’s?
China home of copycat innovators 😂😅
There is no such thing as private aerospace company in China. It is unthinkable that the PRC government would allow any private company to venture into this sensitive field. These companies thrive on government funding and will die when funding dries up, similar to the "semiconductor big leap" in the past few years.
This looks like a complete starship copy, and the fact they are doing this with 1 billion (Probably all government funding, not private) will make it unachievable, considering SpaceX puts 150 million (Mostly privately invested) minimum into each launch and has had quite a few failures to learn. SpaceX is worth 255 billion and has been doing this for over 10 years now, China has yet to successfully land a rocket. It has been doing it for the past 3 years now and has been failing pretty much every time, SpaceX managed to do it after 16 launch attempts and platform tests and only took 8 tests before the Grasshopper was successful, and all 8 of the Grasshopper tests were successful, it took them less than 3 years to successfully land a booster from space, for China 3 years in itself with only one successful landing is not good, the rest from all startups have been failures, they will need at least another 5 to stick landings on the ground let alone a landing tower.
They copy the tech but don't fully understand it, and they also can't copy the work environment of Western companies as well, that's an important step to even achieving this, in fact, all of the aerospace companies in China are not privately owned, they are all tied to the Chinese government, most of their "Private companies" in general are not privately owned, they are nationalized.
That is why Western companies have achieved so much, they don't have the government breathing down their backs as heavily as their Chinese counterparts, Western companies are also allowed to do a lot more due to private funding. I will believe it when I see it, but for now it's just a pipe dream.
Copy? You mean stole or bought the specs from an insider that has stolen them.
There is still a lot of work to do. The landing was nowhere near as gentle as it seems, plus from what I understand it was not without damage either. Thirdly and not least, the landing seems to be a bit lucky too! Let's see if the feat can be repeated.
Bro, SpaceX just showed China the proper way to use chopsticks!🥢
Chinese are so innovative 😂
innovative by copying
Great script Kevin.
I don't think having the chopstick catch tower on a floating platform is a good idea for the company's first or second generation rocket - It is likely to be expensive to maintain - Much easier to build/fix/maintain on land.
Even SpaceX abandoned the floating platform/tower idea as it is probably better to do such a project further down the track with a larger and more mature fully reusable system.
In fact I would go further to say making such a decision gives evidence they are being a little unrealistic and more likely to go bankrupt.
How does 14 million equate to billions?
Because they pay their workers pennys.😅
spaceX funding for starship was 5 bilions till end of 2023, with 2 bilions only in 2023. major investment started pretty late. So INITIAL money can be small, but they are spend on developing ie engines and initial computer simulations, or material testing. Big money can come later.
@@j.m.h.144 Most likely SpaceX and Nasa dirty money laundry somewhere.
It doesn't matter if they fail. If they keep trying it they will get it eventually.
Exactly!
the label 'made in China' says it all!
What did they purchase the stuff with all that money? Temu?
I’m sure something copied by China will be the highest quality.
As always, the future belongs to the ones who dream of great things while the mediocre try to hold them down.
When i was working for GE (General electric) i heard the rumor about how China was stealing top notch R&D confidential information from GE system. During that i had communicated with some of the engineering team they had too many restrictions there workstation.
Pretty sure China hasn't had an original idea, in the last 100 years.
great script, Kevin 🙂
Imagine stealing a companies secrets and the telling the world your going to moon first... using stolen secrets😅
Great scrip Kevin 😊
Is anyone really surprised by now ?
This reminds me of when Russia produced a copy of a captured American bomber. When the Russians discovered that they couldn’t reproduce the necessary tires, they simply sent 2 KGB agents, over to the USA, to buy the needed tires, on the Black Market.
They should learn R&D. not always stealing and copying techs of the US.
Would anyone trust sending payloads via China? By Chinese law, every company is required to assist the government when needed. So they can play the payload hostage game if they have any issue with you or reverse engineer your satellite to steal technology for themselves.
Or they can install something in your satellite, maybe spying hardware.
By the time of their first test, SpaceX will have made multiple new breakthroughs. Goodluck! 😂
China is good in copying tech😅😅😅
2:45 The Chinese pilot in the crashing plane meme is 100% accurate.
Cosmoleap? Like "The Great Leap Forward"? 🤔😅
Never beat SpaceX
In addition, the weight of the landing gear can be devoted to payload.
Yeah, that's something to think about. 🤔
They steal they copy and they are proud of it 😂 Elon should watch out, they might copy him as well 😂😂😂
😅😅😅😅😅😂 Elon should whatchout 😅😅😂
China Copy Paste.😂
how can they do this when their currency is collapsing and there people are starving and homeless?
Well Russia was leading for almost a decade. Under similar circumstances. So there’s no limit to a communist government will do to exploit their citizens, and slave labor to death.
they have overtaken the US in everything ..and actually help fund US debt ..so you can think you are better ,,
Sacrificing the survival of civilians for the sake of national interests is a very politically correct thing for us. It seems very inhumane, but it is really not easy for ordinary people to change political correctness. I believe many friends from the West can agree with what I say.
And this is what we get when we show off our technology? We need to keep this secret off the Damn internet
Really? How can SpaceX keep that a secret? It's not even about showing off technology
"Made in China"... What could go wrong?????
Great script, Kevin! ❤
Many in the West may not know this: In China, there's no shame assigned to stealing and copying, especially to steal and copy from foreign countries, which is actually encouraged.
Bs wuhan
China originally made only coronavirus lol
@@jurisalaurin8457 I think even the virus was copied.
Nor should there be any shame. I am from the UK and we invented everything, and I'm fine with the Chinese copying stuff and making things better than we do. The Chinese are the best makers. We all need to be the best at something. There's loads of stuff the Chinese are better than us at, and we truly admire and respect them for it. Ignore the small minds. The problem is people confuse international patent law with morality. It is not stealing. This idea that ideas can be stolen emerged from modern copyright and patent laws, and is a false concept. Theft is to do with property. Intellectual property is a construct to protect innovation, which is entirely motivated by commerce and not morality, so do not put it in the same category as taking physical property, which is morally wrong, and a different thing.
14 million is pocket change for Musky.
Elon is burning threw taxpayer money because he can't fund his company on his own...
Can anyone tell me about a Chinese invention in the last 100 years?
100% Chinese not stolen.
dildo made of bamboo.😆
You AMericans copied German rocket and nuclear technology
So where is the "Disaster"?
meh, thy had a display of the copy of americas best fighters.. they didn't perform well.
7:43 that rocket wasn’t bolted down at all!! That wasn’t a test! That was a launch!.. 😂
It is not like SpaceX did this overnight. They have been developing this tech for years. It is unlikely this Chinese start up can copy this in a year or two. And they will need many funding rounds. Unless they cheated and actually got all SpaceX's data.
The problem with stealing/copying tech and creating it is that when you create a new technology, you get what you could create, slightly less that what you imagined. But, when you copy someone else’s creation, you get what you could copy, slightly less than what you intended to copy. Thus, a copycat is always less than the original creator. It’s not my rule or Elon’s rule, it’s the reality between what you imagine and what you can create, what you aim to achieve and what you achieve. I liken it to aiming an arrow at a target; you always hit a bit lower than what you aimed at. Creators aim at their imagined goal; copycats aim at what was already accomplished: both hit lower than they had wished, but one hits lower than the other.
👍👍👍
Приземлять первую ступень 20 раз это прорыв, напечатать на 3d двигатель для ракеты, не удавалось никому. ❤ И много ещё чего никто не делал.
Your narrative shows how a copycat thinks within a box. Obviously you are not an engineer but a bugs bunny, because in engineering, engineers always say "show me your design and I always can make it better."
In fact this engineer's philosophy propels civilization forward, the West's zero-sum, beggar-thy-neighbor, a dog in the manger, greed and negativity philosophy like yours always make things regress.
How about China copy the Millennium Falcon
Doesn’t surprise me
At this point they might hire the guy who looked like Elon. Yi Long Musk
Haha, yes
China tried to copy our space shuttle too how'd that turn out 😅..knockoffs aren't the same thing 😂
...THE GERMANS ....
BUILT .YOUR ROCKETS...
SPACE SHUTTLE....
SO ON.....
You AMericans copied German rocket and nuclear technology
@@unholydanger lmao no we just kept the scientist from Nazi party an let them share their research an built the V2 with Werner Von Braun no different than what Russia did their scientist came from Germany also hence the reason the US and Russia having space programs before anybody else I know how we got started did you 🤔?
@@jeanschaeffer4225 the Germans most certainly did not build our space shuttle try again they helped with the V2 rocket an we went from there ...Von Braun died in 1977 the space shuttle wasn't made until the 80's so no the Germans had nothing to do with that space program the Apollo missions yea but space shuttle no!!!
@@unholydanger we didn't copy shit we captured these Nazi scientists an made them work for us they worked in collaboration with Werner Von Braun to create the first Saturn rocket after he made the V2 for the Nazis an it don't matter where we got it the fact is we got it an now we have more way more Starship with 32/33 raptor engines for one that can take off an land an retake off something nobody else can do to this day other than Space X
The Chinese are absolutely the best copy cats on the planet .
They see it as the best way to develop everything.
It’s called the knockoff capital of the world for a reason
It looks better than the Murcan one
Just copying isnt gonna cut it this time 😂
Eventually all of us need to be working together in space.
The copyright designs are out there to copy the ship, the control systems are another thing
SpaceX is very open about this.
I don't think 14 million will cut it