Here in OZ fishing the estuaries i use 8lb braid and a foolproof way to avoid the tangles is to run the line between the first 2 fingers of the hand holding the rod to put tension on line going onto the spool..
Perfect instructions. Comprehensive and clear. I had a bad day of wind knots on the lake yesterday. I think it happens to newly spooled line more than old line. I decided wind knots are worse than backlashes, but both suck!!! I will be using these methods and be more intentional with my casts and retrieves. I spent a lot of time watching videos and yours made the most sense to me.
Thanks. I have fished with many people in nearly 20 yrs of chartering and it is always the same few causes for the knots. The main one being failure to reel the line back in under tension the entire time. In order to minimize knots with less experienced anglers, i do not completely fill up the spool. This can cut down casting distance a bit but will help with knots a lot.
So helpful! I went on my first charter about a month ago and I'm embarrassed by the amount of bird's nest I had. After watching this video I see so many of my mistakes lol
Thanks! I couldn’t figure out why I was getting so many wind knots until I listened to this video. I was purposely rainbow casting to take better advantage of a strong wind behind me. You’re right, it was putting slack on the reel. I stopped doing that No more wind knots. Thanks!
Perfect tips. I have this problem so often and I always blame the “bad quality ” braided line. So is me casting the wrong way. Thanks so much for the tips. Will save me time and money 😀
This information should be very helpful for me. I recently loaded some Gliss line ( not a braid, but some similar qualities) onto a spinning reel - now I can cast distances I never could before, but I have been getting wind knots like never before either! I can hardly wait to try these tips.
I have not used Gliss yet but I am sure focusing on keeping it tight while retrieving, closing the bail by hand, and not overfilling the spool will solve the issue.
I am guilty of the big arc when trying to get distance and cover more water. Wading for reds or in the surf. I do try to stop it using your second method and paling the spool jus before is hits. Any casting technique recommendations to get flatter trajectory and still getting distance would be a welcome video 👍
Light lures definitely contribute to the issue of the line being wound on the spool loose. I often use light lures and have to be very careful to make sure I am not winding up any slack. Even doing that a knot will come off now and then when using very light lures.
I'm one of those still using monofilament line, because when it first came out I heard horror stories about how it would bite into the line on the spool and cause a knot.
Let's be honest though if you're willing to learn how to use a conventional reel then you'll never get wind knots. The spinning reel is awesome and easy to use but it inherently flawed in that it is prone to knots even when used by experienced anglers. The line roller will always twist the line when spooled on the reel. Usually your line will tangle because it has been twisted in one direction and it wants to twist back to its original state. Certain lines are more prone to have line memory problems but it can never really be prevented on spinning reels and you can only twist a line so much before it wishes to return. The benefit of a conventional reel is the line is spooled without applying any twist to the line. If you see professionals spool spinning reels they actually will spin the reel and the spool holding the new line parallel to one another as the line is being feed. Therefore for every rotation of the roller the new spool should compensate with another rotation all while the reel is being cranked. Allowing for a line to be spooled without having an initial torque making the line want to twist back.
Baitcast users don't get "wind knots" they get backlashes. Every, and I mean every single client over 15 years who has wanted to bring their own baitcast reel because that is what they fish with all the time has spent more time picking out backlashes than any spinning reel client spends on knots. In the end they ask if they can use my spinning reels This is because the baitcaster is practically useless for casting the light lures we use in shallow water, especially into the wind. There may be limited experts who can do it but it is not easier to use or more effective. I may get an occasional knot on the spinning reel but I can cast light lures, heavy lures, far and close, pitch and flip, horse fish out from under docks or rocks, slow the cast down, lock down the drag and get a cool drag sound on top of it all. The spinning reel does everything a baitcast reel does plus sound. I as every single baitcasting client why they use it or how a baitcast reel is better than a spinning reel and not one time have I gotten an answer. If you just like to use it better, that is perfectly fine. In the average angler's hand, a spinning reel is much easier to operate.
@@CaptChrisMyers I can agree with that. I think you have a little bit of limited mobility with a baitcaster when it comes to a light lure. You basically have to make sure there is always just a little bit of grease in the reel or just oil the gears because the initial momentum required to cast it can make casting light object very difficult. I will say though, however, if you are an experienced bait caster user and you never let your guard down you will not get a knot from backlash. As far as everything else goes bait casters are a new spin on an old way of fishing. To all those who beach fish the old fashion way they know that it was done by casting conventional reels. They are much more effective in my opinion for beach fishing although they require a learning curve I find I can get more distance out of them and most of it comes to the release. It is much harder to cast a heavy bait on a spinning reel than a bait caster. Along with that I always end up cutting myself on the fiction of the line with a spinning reel when the weight is too much. As far as the sound goes baitcasters don't have the cool sound but the other conventional reels do. I personally I like both there's a time and a place for everything and I agree that for light tackle I think spinning reels are the most effective.
Still the best I video out there on how to use braid!
Best video on braid with spinning reel. Thank you 🙌
Thanks
Here in OZ fishing the estuaries i use 8lb braid and a foolproof way to avoid the tangles is to run the line between the first 2 fingers of the hand holding the rod to put tension on line going onto the spool..
Thanks that was a winner and will help a lot of anglers and me.
Great video! I'm guilty of most of the above bad habits so this video is a good refresher. Thank you.
Perfect instructions. Comprehensive and clear. I had a bad day of wind knots on the lake yesterday. I think it happens to newly spooled line more than old line. I decided wind knots are worse than backlashes, but both suck!!! I will be using these methods and be more intentional with my casts and retrieves. I spent a lot of time watching videos and yours made the most sense to me.
Thanks. I have fished with many people in nearly 20 yrs of chartering and it is always the same few causes for the knots. The main one being failure to reel the line back in under tension the entire time. In order to minimize knots with less experienced anglers, i do not completely fill up the spool. This can cut down casting distance a bit but will help with knots a lot.
So helpful! I went on my first charter about a month ago and I'm embarrassed by the amount of bird's nest I had. After watching this video I see so many of my mistakes lol
Your next guide will be very pleased.
Thanks! I couldn’t figure out why I was getting so many wind knots until I listened to this video. I was purposely rainbow casting to take better advantage of a strong wind behind me. You’re right, it was putting slack on the reel. I stopped doing that No more wind knots. Thanks!
Bob, I was doing the same till now. So from now on I’ll follow this perfect tips
Thank you for these great tips! Much appreciated from a fishing novice
Thanks Capt. , all solid tips and will incorporate and mark this video to come back in case I forget any.
Thanks
Perfect tips. I have this problem so often and I always blame the “bad quality ” braided line. So is me casting the wrong way.
Thanks so much for the tips. Will save me time and money 😀
Glad it was helpful!
I am so glad I found this, thank you.
Thanks for the tips! My baitcaster has been giving me a tough time
This information should be very helpful for me. I recently loaded some Gliss line ( not a braid, but some similar qualities) onto a spinning reel - now I can cast distances I never could before, but I have been getting wind knots like never before either! I can hardly wait to try these tips.
I have not used Gliss yet but I am sure focusing on keeping it tight while retrieving, closing the bail by hand, and not overfilling the spool will solve the issue.
Great instruction, Chris.......Thank you 👍🎣
Great advise. Will be sure to try and follow all of it. Thanks
Great video mate.
Awesome
I am guilty of the big arc when trying to get distance and cover more water. Wading for reds or in the surf. I do try to stop it using your second method and paling the spool jus before is hits. Any casting technique recommendations to get flatter trajectory and still getting distance would be a welcome video 👍
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Worked!
Do you think casting lures that are too light for the setup can also cause wind knots? Especially when retrieving?
Light lures definitely contribute to the issue of the line being wound on the spool loose. I often use light lures and have to be very careful to make sure I am not winding up any slack. Even doing that a knot will come off now and then when using very light lures.
Great video! thank you for the great tips.My son lives in Deland and I would like to take him fishing. I that within your area?
Stay safe!
The closest place to there I fish is theNew Smyrna/Edgewater area
@@CaptChrisMyers thanks for replying Chris. New sta
I'm one of those still using monofilament line, because when it first came out I heard horror stories about how it would bite into the line on the spool and cause a knot.
I have never had that happen in over 20 years of using braid. Once you switch, you will never go back.
@@CaptChrisMyers is that for spinning reels or baitcasters?
Spinning reels
Let's be honest though if you're willing to learn how to use a conventional reel then you'll never get wind knots. The spinning reel is awesome and easy to use but it inherently flawed in that it is prone to knots even when used by experienced anglers. The line roller will always twist the line when spooled on the reel. Usually your line will tangle because it has been twisted in one direction and it wants to twist back to its original state. Certain lines are more prone to have line memory problems but it can never really be prevented on spinning reels and you can only twist a line so much before it wishes to return. The benefit of a conventional reel is the line is spooled without applying any twist to the line. If you see professionals spool spinning reels they actually will spin the reel and the spool holding the new line parallel to one another as the line is being feed. Therefore for every rotation of the roller the new spool should compensate with another rotation all while the reel is being cranked. Allowing for a line to be spooled without having an initial torque making the line want to twist back.
Baitcast users don't get "wind knots" they get backlashes. Every, and I mean every single client over 15 years who has wanted to bring their own baitcast reel because that is what they fish with all the time has spent more time picking out backlashes than any spinning reel client spends on knots. In the end they ask if they can use my spinning reels This is because the baitcaster is practically useless for casting the light lures we use in shallow water, especially into the wind. There may be limited experts who can do it but it is not easier to use or more effective. I may get an occasional knot on the spinning reel but I can cast light lures, heavy lures, far and close, pitch and flip, horse fish out from under docks or rocks, slow the cast down, lock down the drag and get a cool drag sound on top of it all. The spinning reel does everything a baitcast reel does plus sound. I as every single baitcasting client why they use it or how a baitcast reel is better than a spinning reel and not one time have I gotten an answer. If you just like to use it better, that is perfectly fine. In the average angler's hand, a spinning reel is much easier to operate.
@@CaptChrisMyers I can agree with that. I think you have a little bit of limited mobility with a baitcaster when it comes to a light lure. You basically have to make sure there is always just a little bit of grease in the reel or just oil the gears because the initial momentum required to cast it can make casting light object very difficult. I will say though, however, if you are an experienced bait caster user and you never let your guard down you will not get a knot from backlash. As far as everything else goes bait casters are a new spin on an old way of fishing. To all those who beach fish the old fashion way they know that it was done by casting conventional reels. They are much more effective in my opinion for beach fishing although they require a learning curve I find I can get more distance out of them and most of it comes to the release. It is much harder to cast a heavy bait on a spinning reel than a bait caster. Along with that I always end up cutting myself on the fiction of the line with a spinning reel when the weight is too much. As far as the sound goes baitcasters don't have the cool sound but the other conventional reels do. I personally I like both there's a time and a place for everything and I agree that for light tackle I think spinning reels are the most effective.
One of my favorite debates. Thanks