This is an amazingly concise and informative video. Thank you so much... I just purchased a Y long range with 19"s as a result of your noise/sound test. I'll take 4db quieter any day. I wish the whole world was 4db quieter. Nice job thank you.
I dumped the 21” UT from my 2022 PMY and replaced them with some 18s with 245/50s squared from TSportLine. Made a significant improvement in ride, noise, efficiency and performance. And I no longer fear curbs or pot holes. Tesla should off this option again.
Interesting. My mom is getting a Y and I'm helping her research this stuff. What efficiency and performance changes did you notice? Any issues with the 19s becoming more sluggish or vague feeling in cornering? And lastly what tire did you choose?
No one seems to have a comparison between the 21s and 18s! I'm looking to do the same with my MYP. No one will.answer if 0-60 is improved!!! How is it?
@@ryankibler7973 not optimal tuning 18" on your model y performance. Don't forget that this bigger calipers on the front need enough air flow not to overheat. And debree may get stock between the calipers and the rims and scratch the inside of the rim or the disks if you are unlucky.
Just to add. - 21" offers better traction in addition to the looks. 21" comes with high performance wider tires. - Not all tires are created equal. The tires from different manufacture/models will change the results even for the same tire/wheel size. Look for rolling resistance rating to estimate impact on energy consumption.
Btw, yesterday I swapped from the Nokian R5 (21" winters) to the PZ4Z 21" summers. Did not do any range or efficciency tests, but I do notice the car was more silent on R5. Most likely its due to the softer winter rubber, but I have the same size: 275/255 on 21. So the difference in "comfort" might be smaller on the 21". I also think the Nokian R5 have less stretch on the rims than the PZeros.. The summer tires should be said: need a bit warm temp for the rubber to be soft enough, so start of summer you will also get a bit more noise.
WOW thanks so much for this video comparison :D Im currently running aftermarket forged wheels with 275/35/21 and 295/35/21 set up on my 2022 MYP shanghai manufactured. i dont think i ever got this type of efficentcy even in 18 degree weather with A/C off! Now i think i will put the old uberturbines back on and swap out the heavy tires for OEM 255/275 build. Thanks again!
Thanks for another great video. When I switched to the Überturbines summer tires I noticed how frustrating easy small stones get jammed between break discs and the cover resulting in a horrible noise in lower speeds. Have you noticed the same?
I have not tried smaller tires, but upgraded my überturbine to 295 on the back and 275 in the front and yes I get small stones stuck almost on a weekly basis… I asked Tesla and they said that is just how it is 🙄
winter tires vs summer? ofc. winter tires will have more consumption(softer rubber. different lamell structure to have more friction on ice and snow). Also the softer rubber makes those quieter too. Some taxi drivers on my country use those winter tires year round to have quieter ride for themselves and customers(which is not so good idea for safety).
Hey, great video, thanks! Btw, have you ever thought to try rear 295/35 - front 275/35 on 21 inch? See a lot of people saying it brings a lot more comfort. What are your thoughts? And do you still think it’s good to have the 19inch over 20 or 21 for the winter? Thanks again
I like driving on the 19" during the winter..more comfort and better grip. Haven't thought of getting wider on the 21" dont want more cabin noise or higher consumption
@ alright, thanks. Btw, surprisingly, those tires provide more comfort on the bumps, less noise and not a big range reduction. I was surprised actually, have a look into that. Great videos, thanks again
Sorry if I'm being dense, but... are the 19" the Gemini? I can't seem to figure it out from the video as to whether these are the standard Tesla 19" or aftermarket with the Tesla logo added.
This is an older video with the sane 19" wheels. Not orginal wheels. th-cam.com/video/4xK17lNcf70/w-d-xo.html
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Is there any rims that you can get with an aero dynamic rim cap regarding the 19" ones? I will get 21" with the car, but i have decided i will change to 19" when the winter tires wear out. So i would love some extra range
What model year is the car? Sound proofing is said to be improved immensely in 2023. I’m interested in the difference between 19” and 21” for late models.
I understand the wheel size can be provided to the Tesla… can the specific overall diameter of the tire be provided or does the Tesla “auto calibrate/fine tune” the actual speed/distance with its various sensors?
With the right tires you may get a lower 0-60 speed with the 19" wheels since the package gets lighter. But my 19" wheels runs on soft rubber studless tires and therefore looses a bit of the torque resistance and goes and does 0-60 slower.
The Uber turbine tires are crazy expensive! I replaced the back tires at 22,000 miles after 9 months of driving and cost me 1100 bucks! Presently, I now have 41,000 miles and the back tires needed replacing again. As a result, I decided to go with 19 inch Gemini wheels and all season continental tires ( low resistance) and so far I am at 251 wh/ mile compared to 277 wh/ mile with the Uber turbine wheels. Here in Florida the roads are like sandpaper! Much cheaper to replace 19 inch tires and more selection of tires! The Uber turbines are the best looking though! Great review. Subscribed 😊
@@ItsOnlyElectric when they do go I see a lot of people fit 295 rear and 275 front. A bit less range, but less stretch. I even saw some people in USA do front 265/40-21 and rear 295/40-21, that's increasing the OD and therefor show less correct speed, however the car then has less air in arches so it looks lower and they say it feels more comfortable.
@@Ledehund I will order two 295/35-21. Think its better to keep the 20mm offset as 255/275 was, when moving 275 front and keeping 295 rear. But I think I will buy some lighter wheels in 20", maybe Japan Racing SL01 and fit square 275. Doing a bit lower ET and not 10.5" wide rims. I did however for fun try to fit the 10.5 rear wheel in the front position yesterday, it seemed to fit. I did not drive with it, but seems 10.5" wheels fit fine in front. However since the 275 tires is too narrow I thinnk for a 10.5" rim I wouldnt do this anyways.. For autocross I could see the reason for square 10.5" rims and 285 tires, maybe 285/35-20.
How about comfort? Is there a big difference between 21 and 19’’ wheels? I already ordered model Y long range with 19’’ wheels. I would like to change my order to performance version.However, my main concern is comfort. Shall I change my order from LR to performance and then change tires to 19’’ wheels?
Yes, for us “practical” enthusiasts I would like to see a comparison of a model Y LR with performance boost vs a model Y performance. Driving enjoyment, efficiency, comfort, acceleration, appearance. This would be a mix of objective and subjective factors. Thoughts, comments?
Quick Question - I have 2022 MY LR with 19 inch Gemini Wheels. I am thinking to replace the wheels with 21 Inch Uber Turbine Wheels. Has anyone done that before? If yes, what was your experience? Separately, what are your thoughts for the same?
Gracias por tu canal, es de lo mejor de TH-cam, me fio mucho de tus comentarios. Supongo que las Gemini con otros tapacubos eficientes daran más autonomía que en viajes se agradecerá mucho. Muchas gracias por la prueba!
The bigger wheel and with much higher rotating mass beating the smaller and lighter wheel at lower speeds suggests that it probably isn't the best comparison
@@ItsOnlyElectric If I ever an EV, will go for 18 inches wheels.. What do you think about such an idea.. If the back tires are 265 front tires 245 same 18inches will it help with comfort and range
@@faithosadebe5293 it will definetly improve and yes you can get 18" for the MYP Just make sure they are designes for the bigger brakes that this car has.
Just make sure to make enough room for the brake calipers. It isn't enough just to make them fit, also enough air is needed between the calipers and the inside of the rim for proper ventilation and also to avoid gravel and dirt getting stuck.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thanks for the fast response. I'm awaiting June delivery of a Berlin made Long Range, but last week Tesla cut the price of the Performance from $9000 to only $3000 over the Long Range. So now I'm re-evaluating. Not a lot of reasons to justify one over the other anyone.
Thats exactly how I reasoned when I bought my MYP. In Sweden the price difference is 5000 USD. For me a no brainer, bigger wheels, sportier look with lower ride height, bigger brakes etc
Tesla Model 3 AWD for the win. 18" wheels and Acceleration boost. And my overall consumption after more than 40.000 km (in 2 years) is around 155 Wh/km. I can easily drive the car with a feathured right foot and than a consumption of 120 Wh/km
Hey! I like your channel! Thanks for the content! Question! I've got a MY Long Range on order but I'm thinking about buying a pre-owned (kinda low milage) 2022 Performance instead for basically the same price. Upsides are parking sensors, performance and included 21" winter tires (can be expensive tbh). My fear is that the ride comfort will be worse than MYLR 2023. I understand that 21" has an effect on ride comfort but what about the suspension itself? Is it much worse? My wife *hated* the 2021 MYLR (before they upgraded suspension) because of its suspension.
I have tried the updated suspension on both the LR and the P and my experience is that the biggest difference is the wheel size. But with that said I don't think the P is that uncomfortable with the 21" but of course a bit stiffer. Another factor that made the ride better compared to the Chinese builds is the updated softer seats from 2022 in both the LR and P from Gigs Berlin.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thank you! I think we will need to try the P out. It's either that or we try to find an LR made from this year or late 2022. We know that LR with the new suspension are good (but could be better!).
@@maxaxelsson6982 👍 none of them is considered comfortable compared to other premium brands. But more to the sporty side. I really like the driving dynamics of the P though.
Good comparison, and if you are ever looking for a good looking aero wheel, check out the FastWheels EV01+ 19”. I have them on my LR Model Y AWD for winter wheels. Just did a road trip and averaged 188 Wh/km highway speeds through the mountains Calgary to Seattle, fully loaded up, 4 people & luggage. Return trip a little higher at 195 Wh/km. I will have to compare again when I do a similar trip in the fall on the 20” Inductions for summer tires. Almost for sure to have worse efficiency on the larger wheels in the same conditions.
Thanks for the great video. Still going back and forth between the Performance and Long range, but for the 2023 model. I hear that has a new upgraded suspension. what are your thoughts for the LR model but with 20" wheels? Ride quality, noise, longevity and overall car performance as well?
If you are considering the 20" on the LR I would go for the performance instead. Almost the same money and you get a better looking car with bigger brakes and more power.
Great Video . Would you compare LR and Performance suspensionwise. İ ordered LR due to softer suspension but my heart is towards the performance.İs there a big difference between them? Sevgiler
@@gordonfreeman4491 since it's a LCD screen it won't make any noticable difference. OLED screens consume less in dark modes. But in total for the car it's still negligible. I run dark theme since I find I more comfortable for the eyes and looks better. :)
It think the range difference would be much bigger (probably in the range of 49 km), when comparing the OEM 19" summer tires (Hankook) with extra low rolling resistance against the OEM 21" high performance summer tires. On the other hand the noise difference will be smaller...
Nice test, I would not predict such a small difference between the 21" & 19". I recommend to display the average speed when mentioning a consumption to have the context, otherwise is misleading. I believe the difference will be bigger when the average speed gets higher (i.e. highway speeds).
Thanks for the feedback. I'm learning by doing. This was a while ago, but I'm working on leveling up my video skills and it's always a balance between effort and time to market. 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yes, I reduced overall weight on the wheels by 10kgs per wheel by going for semi forged light rims and low weight tyres. Total kgs per wheel is 21 kgs, the 21" uberturbines weigh about 31.3 kgs. (Rim+tyre). So the moment of inertia is less. The tyres have good drainage for water/melted ice which helps also. The aerodynamics of the rim design is also very important, but the biggest factor is wheel weight.
Same rolling resistance if you didn't watch the video. And also a common scenario in Scandinavia with the most common winter vs summer tires on a Tesla Model Y performance. So maybe more scientific then you may think. 😉
Fantastic video! Has been waiting for this when i had the same feeling! The 21” inch impact the range much less than you think! I’m running 21” Uberturbines all year with Hakka R5 on Winter and i am curious to see how it will affect my summertires! Moved the 275 from back axel to front and have ordered 305/30 -21” back! They are mounted and ready to go now the tire company told me! By doing this i hope my Uberturbines looks the same when i take them off as they did when putting them on I belive i will recive same figures! Small amount of decread consumption and more noice but its just to turn up the radio 🤣😊 I also would like to thank you for really good content! Its the same feeling as christmas everytime your notification bell lights up but this was for me the most intresting video so far! Have a nice day and rememeber to always floor your Model Y Performance 😊
Yes, the Übers seems to be effective despite it's size and weight. Why are you widening your tires, is it for the looks or is it to get better side protection for your rims? Glad that you liked the video! 🙂
Haven't considered that aspect. The amount of stolen rims haven't been a problem for teslas earlier. But now when there's is model Ys everywhere I guess that risk is higher. I always use wheel locks.
i think the issue here is rotational weight and tire design! the heavier the wheel, more energy is needed to rotate, so milage, acceleration, ride comfort and breaking will all be impacted. as for noise either/both tires are steel belted radials so as the tread wears the noise level will increase... we have a 2023 model 3 and a 2024 model Y and both vehicles have 19" wheels and no plan to invest in changing them. on a side note here...people that buy a depreciating asset and continue to throw after taxed descretionary $$$ at changes for ego are people that are likely to never become wealthy!
Damn wish I didn't see this.. That decibel levels is huge in difference. I really hate how hard it is choosing between the 2 cars lol. Did test drive the performance and thought it was great, but sure a quieter car would be even better but then again I love the looks of the performance.. God damn it lol
@@ItsOnlyElectric Kollat på han norska Björn och i hans spreadsheet så verkar de skilja sig en hel del på MYP beroende på däcktyp. Är alla 2023 från Berlin med pirelli däck? Känns som de ligger mer i däcken än just större fälg och däckstorlek?
Däck gör stor skillnad. 21" är orginal med Pirelli. Men att tänka på är att sommarhjulen är bredare bak och har lägre profil = mer buller. Dessutom så är det sportdäck med fokus på prestanda. Går ju att sätta på däck med fokus på mjukaregummi som ger lägre buller men med försämrat grepp och snabbare slitage som nedsida.
@@arthurchoi8080 ok smarty pants. Can you instantly spit out all the numbers he gave in miles and pounds accurately and instantly without a calculator in your head and not rounding the numbers to an approximation?
This is an amazingly concise and informative video. Thank you so much... I just purchased a Y long range with 19"s as a result of your noise/sound test. I'll take 4db quieter any day. I wish the whole world was 4db quieter. Nice job thank you.
Haha!! Thank you 👍 glad I could help
Bought my YP three years ago and looked forever for a video like this. Perfect. Thank you. Well done. Also for keeping it concise.
Glad that you liked it! 👍
I dumped the 21” UT from my 2022 PMY and replaced them with some 18s with 245/50s squared from TSportLine. Made a significant improvement in ride, noise, efficiency and performance. And I no longer fear curbs or pot holes. Tesla should off this option again.
Can you fit 18" on the Y performance ? how about room for the brake caliber ?
Yes there's is 18" wheels made for performance. But be careful and make sure they fit. Too tight can harm the calibers.
Interesting. My mom is getting a Y and I'm helping her research this stuff. What efficiency and performance changes did you notice? Any issues with the 19s becoming more sluggish or vague feeling in cornering? And lastly what tire did you choose?
No one seems to have a comparison between the 21s and 18s! I'm looking to do the same with my MYP. No one will.answer if 0-60 is improved!!! How is it?
@@ryankibler7973 not optimal tuning 18" on your model y performance. Don't forget that this bigger calipers on the front need enough air flow not to overheat. And debree may get stock between the calipers and the rims and scratch the inside of the rim or the disks if you are unlucky.
Is the überturbines worth the difference in consumption? 1 year of driving (15000km) will result in a energy loss of 90kWh.
You should had used 19" summer tyres: - probably even more efficient but probably a bit noisier than the winter tyres...
Just to add.
- 21" offers better traction in addition to the looks. 21" comes with high performance wider tires.
- Not all tires are created equal. The tires from different manufacture/models will change the results even for the same tire/wheel size. Look for rolling resistance rating to estimate impact on energy consumption.
Of course. But I'm comparing two set of tires with the same rolling resistance class B. I clearly show this in the video. 😊
And the traction is a whole other story..much more fun and better control with the 21"
Btw, yesterday I swapped from the Nokian R5 (21" winters) to the PZ4Z 21" summers.
Did not do any range or efficciency tests, but I do notice the car was more silent on R5.
Most likely its due to the softer winter rubber, but I have the same size: 275/255 on 21.
So the difference in "comfort" might be smaller on the 21".
I also think the Nokian R5 have less stretch on the rims than the PZeros..
The summer tires should be said: need a bit warm temp for the rubber to be soft enough, so start of summer you will also get a bit more noise.
Yes, my opinion is that the 21" with standard p zero Tyres are a bit too narrow.
Before watching, I would suspect that those Nokian friction tires are at least 2 times more silent compared to those summer tires. They are so soft
Yes, they are more silent.
Thanks for taking the time and sharing🎉
Thanks for watching.
WOW thanks so much for this video comparison :D Im currently running aftermarket forged wheels with 275/35/21 and 295/35/21 set up on my 2022 MYP shanghai manufactured. i dont think i ever got this type of efficentcy even in 18 degree weather with A/C off! Now i think i will put the old uberturbines back on and swap out the heavy tires for OEM 255/275 build. Thanks again!
Glad I could help
Thanks for another great video. When I switched to the Überturbines summer tires I noticed how frustrating easy small stones get jammed between break discs and the cover resulting in a horrible noise in lower speeds. Have you noticed the same?
I noticed exactly the same thing today! Happens several times a day, before the streets ate cleaned from all the gravel. Very annoying sound
@@ItsOnlyElectric hope they do that soon 😎
its the stickier tires that pick up more gravel, with PS4S its even worse :-)
I have not tried smaller tires, but upgraded my überturbine to 295 on the back and 275 in the front and yes I get small stones stuck almost on a weekly basis… I asked Tesla and they said that is just how it is 🙄
Great reply from Tesla. 😂 But I heard that thet are redesigning the brake shields to avoid that problem on future cars.
winter tires vs summer? ofc. winter tires will have more consumption(softer rubber. different lamell structure to have more friction on ice and snow). Also the softer rubber makes those quieter too. Some taxi drivers on my country use those winter tires year round to have quieter ride for themselves and customers(which is not so good idea for safety).
Yes a lot softer, but same rolling resistance.
Is there any setting to set the size of the wheels in the infotainment system, so it calculates everything appropriately and correctly?
Yes, under the service tab.
It is not really possible to spec a MYP with 19" wheels though right?
For me it would be the perfect combo, performance with extra efficiency
No, not if you go for orginal Tesla wheels. Tesla will not sell you 19". But s lot of third party solutions.
Hey, great video, thanks!
Btw, have you ever thought to try rear 295/35 - front 275/35 on 21 inch? See a lot of people saying it brings a lot more comfort. What are your thoughts? And do you still think it’s good to have the 19inch over 20 or 21 for the winter? Thanks again
I like driving on the 19" during the winter..more comfort and better grip. Haven't thought of getting wider on the 21" dont want more cabin noise or higher consumption
@ alright, thanks.
Btw, surprisingly, those tires provide more comfort on the bumps, less noise and not a big range reduction. I was surprised actually, have a look into that. Great videos, thanks again
Hmm..good to know
Sorry if I'm being dense, but... are the 19" the Gemini? I can't seem to figure it out from the video as to whether these are the standard Tesla 19" or aftermarket with the Tesla logo added.
This is an older video with the sane 19" wheels. Not orginal wheels.
th-cam.com/video/4xK17lNcf70/w-d-xo.html
Is there any rims that you can get with an aero dynamic rim cap regarding the 19" ones?
I will get 21" with the car, but i have decided i will change to 19" when the winter tires wear out. So i would love some extra range
There's probably a lot of aerodynamic aftermarket rims for model y
What model year is the car? Sound proofing is said to be improved immensely in 2023. I’m interested in the difference between 19” and 21” for late models.
This is a may 2022 build from Berlin.
I have traveled in newer builds (march 2023) from the same factory and I'm not feeling any difference.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Have you driven 2021 China?
Yes. More loud, different seats and harder suspension.
th-cam.com/video/NE3wxGFP_z8/w-d-xo.html
I understand the wheel size can be provided to the Tesla… can the specific overall diameter of the tire be provided or does the Tesla “auto calibrate/fine tune” the actual speed/distance with its various sensors?
As o understand it the car doesn't auto calibrate according the the wheel size. You do it ny setting the right setup in the menu.
I know I’m late to this video but wondering if the different wheels/tires affect 0-60 speeds. Thanks for the video!
With the right tires you may get a lower 0-60 speed with the 19" wheels since the package gets lighter. But my 19" wheels runs on soft rubber studless tires and therefore looses a bit of the torque resistance and goes and does 0-60 slower.
Great content as usual! And the BYD seal is officially published in Germany. Hopefully can see your review soon!
Thanks! Will check the Seal.
The Uber turbine tires are crazy expensive! I replaced the back tires at 22,000 miles after 9 months of driving and cost me 1100 bucks! Presently, I now have 41,000 miles and the back tires needed replacing again. As a result, I decided to go with 19 inch Gemini wheels and all season continental tires ( low resistance) and so far I am at 251 wh/ mile compared to 277 wh/ mile with the Uber turbine wheels. Here in Florida the roads are like sandpaper! Much cheaper to replace 19 inch tires and more selection of tires! The Uber turbines are the best looking though! Great review. Subscribed 😊
I don't even want to think about the cost of the 275s... 😅 Thanks for watching and subscribeing. 👍
@@ItsOnlyElectric when they do go I see a lot of people fit 295 rear and 275 front. A bit less range, but less stretch. I even saw some people in USA do front 265/40-21 and rear 295/40-21, that's increasing the OD and therefor show less correct speed, however the car then has less air in arches so it looks lower and they say it feels more comfortable.
Interesting 🤔
@@OlavAlexanderMjelde if u do 275 in front and then u can go 295 or even 305 on the rear. Then u also get a much better protection of the rims 😁 MYP
@@Ledehund I will order two 295/35-21. Think its better to keep the 20mm offset as 255/275 was, when moving 275 front and keeping 295 rear.
But I think I will buy some lighter wheels in 20", maybe Japan Racing SL01 and fit square 275. Doing a bit lower ET and not 10.5" wide rims.
I did however for fun try to fit the 10.5 rear wheel in the front position yesterday, it seemed to fit. I did not drive with it, but seems 10.5" wheels fit fine in front. However since the 275 tires is too narrow I thinnk for a 10.5" rim I wouldnt do this anyways..
For autocross I could see the reason for square 10.5" rims and 285 tires, maybe 285/35-20.
Hej
Thank you for the informations
Do you need to change any kind of the sitting on the screen when you swap from 21” to 19” or 20” ?
Yes, there's is a setting for wheel size under the service menu.
How about comfort? Is there a big difference between 21 and 19’’ wheels? I already ordered model Y long range with 19’’ wheels. I would like to change my order to performance version.However, my main concern is comfort. Shall I change my order from LR to performance and then change tires to 19’’ wheels?
I don't feel a big difference in comfort between the 19" and 21". Noise is a bigger issue
yes, but you also have the refresh suspension which is more comfortable. If he has an earlyer Y he might have the bouncy shocks.
Yes, for us “practical” enthusiasts I would like to see a comparison of a model Y LR with performance boost vs a model Y performance.
Driving enjoyment, efficiency, comfort, acceleration, appearance. This would be a mix of objective and subjective factors.
Thoughts, comments?
That's s great concept. Hard to find Teslas since Tesla don't have any press cars. But I'm working on it.
Your a legend your helping me.
Thank you! Glad it helped you.
Quick Question - I have 2022 MY LR with 19 inch Gemini Wheels. I am thinking to replace the wheels with 21 Inch Uber Turbine Wheels. Has anyone done that before? If yes, what was your experience? Separately, what are your thoughts for the same?
Never seen anyone do that. Maybe someone knows?
Gracias por tu canal, es de lo mejor de TH-cam, me fio mucho de tus comentarios. Supongo que las Gemini con otros tapacubos eficientes daran más autonomía que en viajes se agradecerá mucho. Muchas gracias por la prueba!
Geminis increases range for sure! Thanks for your support. 👍 Muchos gracias
Its should de summertires on 19 inc whels for real competion.
Yeah
Yes, but still gives s good comparison.
The bigger wheel and with much higher rotating mass beating the smaller and lighter wheel at lower speeds suggests that it probably isn't the best comparison
The cycle and test is for all day driving. A test of driving a constant 90km/h is not adopted for real life scenarios.
I don't think anything is wrong having both winter tires.. Don't forget it still cold outside, safety first..
Did you recalibrate the car between tire sizes? You can do that through the service section. Thanks
Yes I did. 🙂
How do you do that?@@ItsOnlyElectric
You find it under the service submenu.
can you have 21" on LR without any issue?
Yes, should be fine. But double check measurements before
A quick question on the tires. Beside the range and noise did you feel a big improvement in the comfort with 19” vs 21”?
There's is a slight difference in comfort bit not a big difference.
@@ItsOnlyElectric If I ever an EV, will go for 18 inches wheels.. What do you think about such an idea.. If the back tires are 265 front tires 245 same 18inches will it help with comfort and range
@@faithosadebe5293 it will definetly improve and yes you can get 18" for the MYP Just make sure they are designes for the bigger brakes that this car has.
Just make sure to make enough room for the brake calipers. It isn't enough just to make them fit, also enough air is needed between the calipers and the inside of the rim for proper ventilation and also to avoid gravel and dirt getting stuck.
@@TheEdmaster87 wow.. Never thought about that.. Thanks for the information.. Can I change the car brakes if I want to
Simple question:
Do the wheels account for the entire range difference between the Performance and the Long Range version of Model Y?
Yes, all other factors are negligible.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thanks for the fast response. I'm awaiting June delivery of a Berlin made Long Range, but last week Tesla cut the price of the Performance from $9000 to only $3000 over the Long Range. So now I'm re-evaluating. Not a lot of reasons to justify one over the other anyone.
Thats exactly how I reasoned when I bought my MYP. In Sweden the price difference is 5000 USD. For me a no brainer, bigger wheels, sportier look with lower ride height, bigger brakes etc
What is your opinion on getting enhanced autopilot and FSD. Is it worth it living in Sweden?
I had it on my model s. Not worth the price if you ask me.
Well done. Thanks for the insight.
You're welcome 😁
4dB is A LOT! Too bad there aren't 18" with 55 section tires available.
Yes, it is! I didn't remember it to be as much. At first I thought that my bearings was Broken..
Tesla Model 3 AWD for the win. 18" wheels and Acceleration boost. And my overall consumption after more than 40.000 km (in 2 years) is around 155 Wh/km. I can easily drive the car with a feathured right foot and than a consumption of 120 Wh/km
That's really low. :)
Hey! I like your channel! Thanks for the content!
Question! I've got a MY Long Range on order but I'm thinking about buying a pre-owned (kinda low milage) 2022 Performance instead for basically the same price. Upsides are parking sensors, performance and included 21" winter tires (can be expensive tbh). My fear is that the ride comfort will be worse than MYLR 2023. I understand that 21" has an effect on ride comfort but what about the suspension itself? Is it much worse? My wife *hated* the 2021 MYLR (before they upgraded suspension) because of its suspension.
I have tried the updated suspension on both the LR and the P and my experience is that the biggest difference is the wheel size. But with that said I don't think the P is that uncomfortable with the 21" but of course a bit stiffer.
Another factor that made the ride better compared to the Chinese builds is the updated softer seats from 2022 in both the LR and P from Gigs Berlin.
Short answer the MYP rides better than the MYLR 2021. And thats because of the seats and the updated suspension. Can't you just try it first?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thank you! I think we will need to try the P out. It's either that or we try to find an LR made from this year or late 2022. We know that LR with the new suspension are good (but could be better!).
@@maxaxelsson6982 👍 none of them is considered comfortable compared to other premium brands. But more to the sporty side. I really like the driving dynamics of the P though.
Good comparison, and if you are ever looking for a good looking aero wheel, check out the FastWheels EV01+ 19”. I have them on my LR Model Y AWD for winter wheels. Just did a road trip and averaged 188 Wh/km highway speeds through the mountains Calgary to Seattle, fully loaded up, 4 people & luggage. Return trip a little higher at 195 Wh/km. I will have to compare again when I do a similar trip in the fall on the 20” Inductions for summer tires. Almost for sure to have worse efficiency on the larger wheels in the same conditions.
Thanks for the tip! Will check
These ones?
Thanks for the great video. Still going back and forth between the Performance and Long range, but for the 2023 model. I hear that has a new upgraded suspension. what are your thoughts for the LR model but with 20" wheels? Ride quality, noise, longevity and overall car performance as well?
If you are considering the 20" on the LR I would go for the performance instead. Almost the same money and you get a better looking car with bigger brakes and more power.
Did you warm the car 60-80km before starting the test? Was it same day during the test?
No, both cars started without warming. Same weather conditions and temperature.
Great Video .
Would you compare LR and Performance suspensionwise.
İ ordered LR due to softer suspension but my heart is towards the performance.İs there a big difference between them?
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I'm planning to compare a model y lr from Berlin with one from Shanghai, same build month.
How is comfort difference between those?
Not that big actually. The difference in noise is the biggest difference in comfort.
Hi, what mud guards are you using?
Tesla standard mud Guards. Ships with the car as standard in Scandinavia.
Black or white screen, does it make a difference?
Not sure what you mean.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Does it use more battery with a white screen?
@@gordonfreeman4491 since it's a LCD screen it won't make any noticable difference. OLED screens consume less in dark modes. But in total for the car it's still negligible. I run dark theme since I find I more comfortable for the eyes and looks better. :)
@@ItsOnlyElectric Cool; thanks!
Trevlig video!👍
Tackar! 🙂
great video. what year is the model y?
Thanks! June 2022 from giga berlin
It think the range difference would be much bigger (probably in the range of 49 km), when comparing the OEM 19" summer tires (Hankook) with extra low rolling resistance against the OEM 21" high performance summer tires. On the other hand the noise difference will be smaller...
Maybe. I think the wheel caps will make the biggest difference.
im looking for 18’s
Another great video. Thanks
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Nice test, I would not predict such a small difference between the 21" & 19". I recommend to display the average speed when mentioning a consumption to have the context, otherwise is misleading. I believe the difference will be bigger when the average speed gets higher (i.e. highway speeds).
I do mention and write the average speed. 🙂 93km/h
@@ItsOnlyElectric I mean you can write it down with a * on the final results rable. I overlooked you mention that at the beginning :).
Please don't put the black wheels in the shade while recording an item on size and looks of wheels. Just an advise; like your videos!
Thanks for the feedback. I'm learning by doing. This was a while ago, but I'm working on leveling up my video skills and it's always a balance between effort and time to market. 🙂
great video thanks!
Thanks for watching
I got myself 18" wheels with very low rolling resistance winter tyres. 100km+ more range!
Wow, that's a big difference
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yes, I reduced overall weight on the wheels by 10kgs per wheel by going for semi forged light rims and low weight tyres. Total kgs per wheel is 21 kgs, the 21" uberturbines weigh about 31.3 kgs. (Rim+tyre). So the moment of inertia is less. The tyres have good drainage for water/melted ice which helps also. The aerodynamics of the rim design is also very important, but the biggest factor is wheel weight.
What kind comparison is it? Summer tires vs winter tires?
So scientific....
Same rolling resistance if you didn't watch the video. And also a common scenario in Scandinavia with the most common winter vs summer tires on a Tesla Model Y performance. So maybe more scientific then you may think. 😉
Not to mention the €2300 extra for the 21" wheels.
In Europe you can't the performance without the 21" it's included in the price
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yeah you are right. But I thought you were only comparing the differences of 19" vs 21"wheels.
@hermanstokbrood get your point
Great stuff!!! That was great.
Thanks!
Great video!
Comparing range with 19" winter tires and 21" inch summer tires says nothing! You must compare winter to winter tires or summer to summer tires.
Fantastic video!
Has been waiting for this when i had the same feeling! The 21” inch impact the range much less than you think!
I’m running 21” Uberturbines all year with Hakka R5 on Winter and i am curious to see how it will affect my summertires!
Moved the 275 from back axel to front and have ordered 305/30 -21” back!
They are mounted and ready to go now the tire company told me! By doing this i hope my Uberturbines looks the same when i take them off as they did when putting them on
I belive i will recive same figures! Small amount of decread consumption and more noice but its just to turn up the radio 🤣😊
I also would like to thank you for really good content!
Its the same feeling as christmas everytime your notification bell lights up but this was for me the most intresting video so far!
Have a nice day and rememeber to always floor your Model Y Performance 😊
Yes, the Übers seems to be effective despite it's size and weight.
Why are you widening your tires, is it for the looks or is it to get better side protection for your rims?
Glad that you liked the video! 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric I would say bith but mainly to savr them from schratches
What about the high risk of getting them stolen?
Haven't considered that aspect. The amount of stolen rims haven't been a problem for teslas earlier. But now when there's is model Ys everywhere I guess that risk is higher. I always use wheel locks.
Could one buy two of the front 19” Ubers from second hand and put those on the rear? So you’d have 21” x 9.5” all around instead of 10.5” in the rear?
i think the issue here is rotational weight and tire design! the heavier the wheel, more energy is needed to rotate, so milage, acceleration, ride comfort and breaking will all be impacted. as for noise either/both tires are steel belted radials so as the tread wears the noise level will increase... we have a 2023 model 3 and a 2024 model Y and both vehicles have 19" wheels and no plan to invest in changing them.
on a side note here...people that buy a depreciating asset and continue to throw after taxed descretionary $$$ at changes for ego are people that are likely to never become wealthy!
Yes rotational and unsprung weight is the important factors.
Damn wish I didn't see this.. That decibel levels is huge in difference. I really hate how hard it is choosing between the 2 cars lol.
Did test drive the performance and thought it was great, but sure a quieter car would be even better but then again I love the looks of the performance.. God damn it lol
I still love my performance. :)
@@ItsOnlyElectric Kollat på han norska Björn och i hans spreadsheet så verkar de skilja sig en hel del på MYP beroende på däcktyp. Är alla 2023 från Berlin med pirelli däck? Känns som de ligger mer i däcken än just större fälg och däckstorlek?
Däck gör stor skillnad. 21" är orginal med Pirelli. Men att tänka på är att sommarhjulen är bredare bak och har lägre profil = mer buller. Dessutom så är det sportdäck med fokus på prestanda. Går ju att sätta på däck med fokus på mjukaregummi som ger lägre buller men med försämrat grepp och snabbare slitage som nedsida.
You missed on 0-60 or 0-100km/h
Yes, did not have time to try. 😔
Bravo...
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Sağol
@@ItsOnlyElectric Bro, you know language...
Izmirliyim kardeşim.
@@ItsOnlyElectric hahahaaa, sana helal olsun...
Abi gözünü seveyim Türkçe anlat bunları arada kaldık p ile lr arasında
Kusura bakma abi. 😞 Türkiye'den biraz izleyici getir Türkçe bir kanal açayım.
Türkler burada, watching, scrolling 🥸
Ooo hoşgeldiniz! 🙂
You should list the imperial measurements also to reach a larger audience.
Good point!
All you need to know 1.61km=1mile 😂😂
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@@arthurchoi8080 ok smarty pants. Can you instantly spit out all the numbers he gave in miles and pounds accurately and instantly without a calculator in your head and not rounding the numbers to an approximation?
Most of the data is stated in imperial values too:
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Doesn't make sense. No way u got over 400km from a single charge on either wheels. In theory sure but in reality no way your getting over 300km
I am. 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric ok do a range test. 95% to 10%
@@PrinceKashez9 done several roadtrips giving range over 400 with 21". But most often you stop for s lunch or s break anyway and Sr that point charge
@It's Only Electric but do u under my question? Try and do 95 to 10% or even a 100% to 10%? ur not getting any where near 400 in reality
Yes I get that. In normal day driving and when not on road trip you don't get that and you almost never charge to 100% if you have a NMC battery.
Nokian tyres. 👍🏼😉
Great ones. Thanks for that Finland!
Türkçe yok😡
Şimdi alt yazı var ama. 👍
Teşekkür ederim🙏
Another great video, thank you. You haven't said anything about the comfort. Is it a big difference?
There's not s big difference in comfort the Übers runs nice. But the biggest downside is really the noise