A lot of people complaining about the "poor" hybrid gas mileage in the winter. I would happily take 30 mpg for 3-4 months and 40 mpg the other 8-9. Yeesh.
SG, I've commented on it before and I know really it's a small thing but man oh man do I love the fact that you make a point to mention the source of the material and labor for your shirts. Grey products are so normalized nowadays and I can't stress enough how important it is to give back to American labor when you can. I really hope more small business stands up and starts producing things ethically and consciously once again, it starts with T-Shirts and hopefully we'll get back electronic manufacturing sometime in the coming future.
We bought a '21 Venza XLE back in October, and my wife has just over 4k miles on it now. It's perfect for her. It replaced a 2011 Acura RDX, and she's pleased with the gas mileage of the Venza, and that she only has to fill it up every couple of weeks. As Jack said, for an everyday cruiser, it's perfect. The XLE has everything we wanted (heated steering wheel was important to my wife, but is no longer available on the '22 XLE), and we avoided the capacitive touch controls. We both prefer physical knobs/buttons, and Toyota did a nice job with the Venza.
This deserves a lot of credit for achieving what it sets out to do very well. Very much a modern interpretation of the classic Toyota philosophy - restrained and conservative aesthetics, spacious and usable interior (ok, maybe some of that could be improved), tried and true hybrid powertrain with adequate power, and driving dynamics that are the utmost in comfort with no sporting pretensions. Might not be what most viewers of this channel are looking for, but will satisfy many ordinary buyers, for sure.
I also was surprised how much I like my Venza. Great gas mileage (42 in the summer) and it handles great. The seats are fantastic. I drove 13 hrs in one day without discomfort. Looks good and I can find it in a parking lot full of Rav4's.
Yes, the Venza has the best drivers seat of any Toyota. I like the back seats too. But the front passenger seat needs lumbar and seat height adjustment. It’s not as good as the drivers seat.
I bought the XLE version for my mom now that all the kids are out of the house and it's a perfect size for her. After 9 month of driving it, she still calls me up thanking me for selecting the right cuv for her. She couldn't be happier with this choice and does over 40 mpg consistently
That's how I feel. I'm looking to buy another one. I do wish sport mode would give you about an extra 30 more horsepower, but hey this isn't meant to be a race car it's a daily driver.
I have a 2022 loaded Venza Limited. Its Goldilocks, not too big or small. The hybrid drivetrain actually fits this car. On my previous Lexus ES300H it’s too weak. The new Venza has most of the bells and whistles of a Lexus, but bigger and cheaper than a NX. I really like it.
I am a 2021 XLE owner, and I've grown to appreciate it more over time. I put on Michelin CC2s which significantly improved road noise and comfort, I highly recommend this upgrade especially if you live in an area with very coarse and loud pavement. I also got a good PPF on the front and wireless carplay adapter. With good power, a nice interior, and elegant design, I really enjoy this car.
@@panzer_TZ thanks for the tire tip. Mine are still in good shape and I really don't notice a lot of road noise but it's worth noting when I do need to replace them of what I might look to replace them with. Thanks for sharing
The Toyota Hybrid system is one of the best things I've ever experienced in auto engineering period. Admittedly, the slower ones aren't that fun to drive, but as a workaround I bought myself a Lexus GS450h; best of both worlds. In addition to my own car, I've had a chance to drive almost all of them, the Yaris hybrid, The Prius and Prius +, the Corolla (1.8), the Rav4. All of them are very smooth and relaxing to drive and get great mileage, on top of being extremely reliable. I have never missed having 'real' gears, by this point I have become fully convinced that this system is just better than having traditional gears, and cruising on the highway at 1100rpm is just the cherry on top. Even the 2022 S-Class hybrid can't get the gas mileage of my 2015 car, and that car has a smaller engine too.
The best thing about the CVT is that it’s perfectly under-stressed at highway cruising. I love it honestly, and floor my Sienna and Prius all the time without bracing for a rough downshift-and I know Toyota builds it to last.
I couldn’t agree more. Even better is that the Toyota CVT system is a planetary gear system that is built to last, unlike the belt-driven systems that other manufacturers use (Nissan) and often fail. That’s why you see so many Prius with over 300,000 miles on the original transmissions. Toyota quality standards are second to none.
@@grisa12345 Yep, sometimes I can barely help laughing maniacally when I'm sitting at 1200rpm on the highway in ultimate relaxation mode. I remember that my cars from the 90s (all 5 speed manuals) were always sitting at 3000rpm @100km/h, which was very uncomfortable.
smaller engine needs to try harder to put out the same power as a bigger engine. there's a sweet spot in every engine of power output to fuel input that a small engine just cant manage with most cars, which is why a weak engine almost always ends up worse on fuel. a corvette is almost idle on the highway, which is why they get strangely good mpg when they're not in the city
Bought a limited loaded - stargazer- heads up etc. love the vehicle. Great on gas, comfortable. Was concerned about the lack of buttons. Non- issue. 20k mikes 10 months - less MPG in winter. But still decent. Great MPG in mild climes. Glad I bought it!!
Same here love my Venza, I also have the limited and I just hit 20k (hour+ commute to work each way). I plan on keeping my car for a long time unless they make a prime version with wireless apple CarPlay lol
@@Mrtellitlikeitis I had narrowed my choices down to a RAV4 hybrid. Venza is quieter than a RAV4 hybrid. Venza is also quieter than the second generation Chevy Equinox I was driving. You want quieter than a Venza? Buy a Lexus and spend about 15 grand more. I'll take my 40pg and a little more noise any day of the week. Especially for the price.
Got two hybrid Rav4s because it's so damn good at regular commuting. Size is good, gas mileage is solid, the comfort and usability works so well for the price.
we love our '22 sienna for daily driving even in the cold weather we still manage to get 29-32 mpg which is considerably more than the peak 23-24 of our '20 with a v6 on a full tank, on peak conditions it gets 37 mpg highway and easily 500+ miles of range
You guys have quickly become my favorite car review channel. You guys are down to earth and have a much different approach to the car TH-cam scene that seemed to have gone away but I'm glad it didn't. I appreciate you being honest and transparent in your reviews even when it's a car given by the company. Great content as always keep it up!
Wife bought a new Camry Hybrid in '07. A total appliance but we've had zero issues with the hybrid. We haven't paid too much attention to mileage in the winter but it does vary a little.
Saw the new Avenza rolling down the road tonight and started telling my wife about your review and maybe giving it a test drive..look over to see who is driving it and there he was the man himself. Jack rolling around the streets of Schaumburg with the long termer.
Yea I liked what Toyoda said about hybrids being the future. In MI, this review is on point with what I’d have to deal with. Hybrid is the best of both worlds.
The Venza battery weighs in at 58 pounds compared to Tesla at over 1,000 pounds. How much energy and cost is used to manufacture the EV batteries? My take is a lot. Hybrids are the way to go.
@@10ProSoccer some countries offer incentives. Even though the investment is big, you will get your money back in 2-4 years depending on how much you drive. Especially now when the fuel prices have increased.
I like the Venza, and I usually like SUV's that are boxy. I appreciate it's sleek and normal styling. It's not shouty like so many other cars are, and it doesn't have that baskin shark grill that Lexus models have. Toyota did a great job in making a non-Lexus product be really nice, and I appreciate them not putting all sorts of shouty look at me details
January 2021 I had made up my mind to buy a RAV4 hybrid but had already researched the Venza. I test drove four different RAV4 hybrids and didn't really care for any of them. Before leaving the dealership I tried out a newly delivered Venza limited. I immediately noticed how much more comfortable the seats were. I then noticed that although it had the same JBL sound system as the RAV4's I test drove.. it sounded better in the Venza. Although it's not quiet when mashing the gas it was quieter than the RAV4 hybrid. It's really a disservice for Toyota to label their ECVT as a CVT since it has no belt to wear out like a standard CVT and is built solid as a rock. In sport mode it's actually nice to drive and still gets respectable gas mileage. As the video suggests, using the heated seats and steering wheel has a direct impact on fuel economy which is weird until you think it through. I'm also impressed with the all-wheel drive system. It is extremely quick in response to changing road conditions and since it's based on electric motors there's no drivetrain to maintain or wear out, just immediate torque to the appropriate wheels when needed. I tested the all-wheel drive system in a local 9-in snow event trying to romp on the gas and jerk the steering wheel around as hard as I possibly could trying to make it get squirrely and I could not make it perform poorly. I would not be fearful to take this mildly off-road if needed but obviously it's not an off-road vehicle and frankly neither are any of the RAV4s. I'm typically averaging about 38mpg during warmer months and 34mpg in winter. Under ideal conditions I've got as high as 52mpg on a late night 15 Mile sandwich run which is Toyota Prius level mileage in a car I consider an entry-level Lexus that costs 12,000 less than a Lexus. It's surprising to me more people have not caught on to this Venza platform. It's a solid performer. It has bulletproof Toyota hybrid reliability, resale value and is a pleasure to drive. Due to regenerative braking your brakes are going to last a very very long time as well. With rising gas prices this platform should be on everyone's short list for a test drive. I could not be more pleased with my purchase. Here is an excellent video explaining how well designedToyotas ECVT is. th-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/w-d-xo.html
I was about to check out for the new T-shirt wich I was excited to order, saw the 42$ shipping and went directly to bankruptcy. Living in the street with that wonderful T-shirt will still be a huge accomplishment for my now homeless self. Thanks a lot guys and I will now use the mental health project that I finance all by myself.
Hybrids make the most sense at this point - you can go completely EV for short commutes and you don’t have to spend hours of your time on long trips recharging batteries. I would go with the Camry hybrid however.
2021 Sienna hybrid and 2021 Prius Prime owner here. Easiest cars ever to live with (and keeps miles off the G63!) Sienna gets about 30mpg in mixed driving but the Prius is averaging 67mpg over the first 7500 miles. It’s hard not to love Toyota hybrids. Efficient and reliable, and IMO pretty good looking. I have plenty of quibbles with Toyota tech, but the reliability and efficiency are generally worth the trade off.
The video is great, this abomination makes me want to hurl. Also got my shirt on order. Great work getting your shirts American made. You're a real one, Goose.
The recent spike in gas prices have softened me a bit towards hybrids. I'd appreciate if they were a little more fun, but I couldn't possibly go all electric in a region that experiences winter.
interesting I just bought used Venza with the V6 Engine AWD XLE .. BUT its way older than this one .. for who don't know about it .. its a none Hybrid . 2012 ..the cons .. is Horrible gas mileage around 19 miles per gallon companied . But its very very reliable with very good power smooth ride V6 engine .. the reason why I'm watching this video .. is because I'm not into Electric Vehicles .. but ..Hybrid make more sense though. its too early to upgrade .. I still make payments one it .. I purchased it in 2019 with 48K on it .. now I have 60K on it .. so I got long way before upgrading .. if ever .. I really want to live whiteout auto loan for a while honestly !! but thanks to you guys .. and to everyone who provide or included additional info in the comments section .. sharing their personal experience it does help a lot ..
After having seat time for a month in a K5, I understand the appeal a little bit more of a comfortable, steady relax-a-car. Its nice! I akinned the experience of modern cars as an everyman luxury experience. Ironically its for that same experience that I preferred my altima. Even when being slower, that car is fun to drive everyday, and chill enough to lean back on when need be. Maybe its cause I’m a freak of nature, but I feel the need more often to drive spiritedly than I do to chill
I bought a Toyota Venza 2021 LE model. I was upgrading from a 2010 Honda Civic, mind you. So I didn't go bruhaha on all the tech, wanted buttons instead of a touchscreen, preferred a smaller screen and was okay with a simple backup camera that I had fitted myself in my old Civic. Then I upgraded to Venza and it is a breeze. AWD, standard hybrid, smooth drive, consistently hitting >40mpg. The cabin is über comfortable, Android auto is perfect, the sound system is more than adequate. The adaptive cruise control makes my drive much less worrisome. I love long drives (easy 300 miles a day). So this car is more than perfect for me. So if you are upgrading from an older vehicle, I would strongly suggest you this car. Go for a lower model since you don't want to overspend but want all the basic features such as adaptive cruise control. Nikhil
Thank you for not reflexively hating on this because it doesn't lap the 'Ring in 8 flat or tackle the Rubicon. I don't own anything like this, but can see exactly why it sells, and wouldn't care what Flatbills think if I did buy one.
The first Venza was really a weird large wagon based on the Highlander, IIRC. This new Venza is actually what the RX 350 would've been if they didn't push the RX to make it bigger. (The first two generations of RX were rebadges of the overseas Toyota Harrier, which is what this new Venza is). Confusing, I know, I hope I explained it well enough.
I’ve had two hybrid Toyota’s. The range drop in winter is similar to his experience. I have a late model leaf now and (I knew going in) its range in cold winter weather is 50-60% of stated range. Winter eviscerates EV range.
That part about EVs and range anxiety is the reason why mass EV adoption will not happen until we solve charge speed and infrastructure. Until then, Toyota's hybrids were a 20+ year bet that is already paying off big, especially with gas prices where they are now, and will continue to be the dominant tech for cars in the near future.
I agree that hybrids are a good bet for many, and for commuter vehicles in moderate climates, plug-in hybrids make sense. However, we're already seeing EVs (from Hyundai and Kia so far) that can get a 200 mile charge in twenty minutes. That's a very useful mileage for a relatively short break, and for most people would require no stops shorter than they'd already take on a road trip (meals and bathroom breaks). The range dropoff needs to be explored more. The awd versions have heat pumps that shpuld help a lot. I wish heat pump prices would drop, as all EVs should at least have them as an option.
A 20 min charge time would be better than 1hr for sure. We just need that infrastructure everywhere that an EV can go (perhaps starting with malls and other popular destinations), and that won't be happening for a long while.
Love the content as always, and love how the shirts are made and what they support. Mental health is very important to me, it’s how I lost my sister. Pretty cool I get to start my day with my top channel supporting “real life things” keep it up guys, you’re appreciated. Now, can’t wait for the content we’ve all been waiting for… the Mirage review lol.
Well done. I’ve owned a 21 Venza Limited for 10 months now. First review to discuss the decreased mpg and mileage driving in winter months. Like Jack, my Venza mileage decreased 20-25% (28-32 mpg) for winter driving with a range of 300 miles. The drivability of this vehicle with the ECVT is mundane at best. So many negatives outweighing the positives to mention with the Venza. in short, when the lease is up it’s gone.
don't forget how the published fuel tank capacity is nothing but lies, the published capacity is 14 gallons but you'll only fill up 11 gallons at the pump even though the dash say 20 miles to empty
Please share your negatives. I've had mine for 13 months 18,000 miles. I don't like the Toyota navigation system so I typically use Android auto. It took me a while to get used to the touch sensitive controls and not having a volume knob to quickly turn the volume down when I needed to. (I just hit the power button now) So far I've been pretty happy with mine.
Tge great majority of the US population lives in places with veey little (or no) extreme winter weather. Battery range may be a big issue in the upper Midwest and inland Northeast, but most people along the East Coast, almost everyone in the southern half of the country, and people in the Pacific Coast states will see very little drop.
@@powerguymark I had a 2021 XLE for 2 years and the gas mileage was great but hated the touch-sensitive controls. the biggest problem is the high-voltage cable to the all-wheel drive system. the majority of RV4 hybrids & plug- in and Venza corrode within the first 2 years because of the snow & salt. it is only covered by the 3-year basic warranty and not the 8-year hybrid system. the cost of replacement is 5k to 8k.but the replacement cable is the same as the old one. Toyota almost gave me the same price that I paid 2 years ago so I got a 2023 RV4 XLE premium gas model. the ride is similar to the Venza but I feel more connected with the road in the RV4
I have a 2021 Venza. I had been averaging 42.7mpg, then in the winter, it dropped to 42.1mpg. I expect mpg to increase again as the weather warms up-all this in mostly Washington DC-area driving.
Compared to my previous gas powered car. 1. Heated steering wheel slow to warm. 2. Heater slow to warm. To all. I set my mode to sport mode full time. It’s fun to drive and a fast off a red light. Mileage penalty is well worth it. Since I live in a cold climate, I wouldn’t get a hybrid again.
I was looking for a boring, reliable, ultra fuel-efficient, drive and forget it appliance experience and stumbled upon the Toyota Venza. I liked the interior, but I opted for the Rav4 hybrid as a daily. They both are about the same vehicle, but the Venza is a step up from the Rav4 with Toyota’s new design language, and it is still made in Japan, so it does have that going for it.
Gentlemen, When you do your next report on the Venza, would you please confirm whether the interior is larger and more accommodating than the new Lexus NX .
I'm looking to go BEV in a couple of years. Please consider reviewing the new Hyundai or Kia ev's.Thanks for the 6+ years of automotive education and fun.Great channel Mark and Jack! I drive what's been a great cruiser.2000 I30 now at 216,000.
I got extremely lucky and bought a 22 Sienna a few months ago for my business and I've already rolled past 10k miles. I love this thing so damn much! It's the most expensive car I've ever bought but was required due to the nature and mileage requirements of my company. The cold weather MPG was a huge shocker but 95% of the time I get over 40mpg and if I have to sit in bad traffic it'll go as high as 50mpg.
Mpg difference in the sienna is crazy. In my ‘21, we got 38 mpg in a summer trip on a 65 mph highway. On a winter trip on a 75 mph highway it was low 20s.
Maybe a block heater would help but I wouldn’t think it would make much difference in overall mpg on a long highway trip. It’s our third sienna and overall pretty good. So far I’d rather have the efficiency of the hybrid over the smooth power of the 6. The fit and finish is a little suspect on the ‘21.
my biggest gripe with the Venza, is in Canada, you can only get a 360 camera on the top (limited) trim, which is a must-have for me. but the top trim ONLY comes with the fancy pano sunroof, and the sunroof prevents u having side rails for roof racks. and roof racks are another must-have for me. I wish there was a package to add 360 cam to the XLE.
@@yourmommashouse 1. the neighbourhood stray cats like to party on my property, 2. my fam does a fair bit of parking next to curbs, 3. the boat launch i frequent for kayaking is adjacent to an off leash dog park 4. cost. in canada, a venza is in the high 40s to low 50 thousand dollar CAD range. that's practically 60k after taxes and fees. at that price, "nice-to-haves" become "must-haves" for me.
Happy that the T-Shirts are back, but sadly, being in Canada, including shipping, would cost a whopping $91.98 CAD (~ $72.46 USD). At this point i will continue to support the channel simply by watching, liking and subscribing. Not much else I can do without trading in some of my maple leaf stamped gold bullion.
Sounds like the venza is the black and decker electric toaster appliance we have at home. Here i an thinking its more like the Hamilton Beach milk shake maker appliance, i stored in my closet. Cheers guys, i am looking for a car. This video has convinced me to at least go take a test drive and give it a chance..
Introducing SG merch restock on Pt. 1 of a long-term review for a Venza was the only reason there were any Mediums left when I placed my order just now. Thanks for that fighting chance. ;)
From everything I've read and seen, it seems the venza is the replacement for the avalon even though Toyota is bringing some version of the Toyota Crown to the US. The venza and rav4 share a similar relationship as the avalon and camry. With the avalon being gone, I can see avalon buyers moving to the venza because it's more luxurious than the average Toyota, priced below comparable luxury cars, and has the toyota peace of mind reliability.
I was at a Toyota dealer and I said to the salesman who was showing us the venza that it was the replacement for the Avalon and he said no. God, some salespeople are such idiots
hopefully you'll have some large 2.0 shirts soon. i'm glad you guys were given a chance to do a long-term review, hopefully you get some more. did you guys have any noteworthy gripes or something you really loved about the car, maybe with any particular feature?
Thanks fellas for being consistent with quality and exciting content, even with cars that are viewed by its’ owners as appliances.
I’m tryna trade my tundra trd pro for one of these. Venza just makes sense. It’s so efficient
The appliances are the ones that many normal people will need and buy, honestly really appreciate the appliance videos
A lot of people complaining about the "poor" hybrid gas mileage in the winter. I would happily take 30 mpg for 3-4 months and 40 mpg the other 8-9. Yeesh.
Also that 30 plus mpg is still better than most non hybrid mpg anyways 😂
Just consider, some of those folks may live where is freezing mornings can occur 5 months of the year
SG, I've commented on it before and I know really it's a small thing but man oh man do I love the fact that you make a point to mention the source of the material and labor for your shirts. Grey products are so normalized nowadays and I can't stress enough how important it is to give back to American labor when you can. I really hope more small business stands up and starts producing things ethically and consciously once again, it starts with T-Shirts and hopefully we'll get back electronic manufacturing sometime in the coming future.
We bought a '21 Venza XLE back in October, and my wife has just over 4k miles on it now. It's perfect for her. It replaced a 2011 Acura RDX, and she's pleased with the gas mileage of the Venza, and that she only has to fill it up every couple of weeks. As Jack said, for an everyday cruiser, it's perfect. The XLE has everything we wanted (heated steering wheel was important to my wife, but is no longer available on the '22 XLE), and we avoided the capacitive touch controls. We both prefer physical knobs/buttons, and Toyota did a nice job with the Venza.
Congratulations on getting a long-term press car, you guys earned this.
This deserves a lot of credit for achieving what it sets out to do very well. Very much a modern interpretation of the classic Toyota philosophy - restrained and conservative aesthetics, spacious and usable interior (ok, maybe some of that could be improved), tried and true hybrid powertrain with adequate power, and driving dynamics that are the utmost in comfort with no sporting pretensions. Might not be what most viewers of this channel are looking for, but will satisfy many ordinary buyers, for sure.
I don’t know about tried and true powertrain.
This version is very very very complex
And fairlnew
I also was surprised how much I like my Venza. Great gas mileage (42 in the summer) and it handles great. The seats are fantastic. I drove 13 hrs in one day without discomfort. Looks good and I can find it in a parking lot full of Rav4's.
Yes, the Venza has the best drivers seat of any Toyota. I like the back seats too. But the front passenger seat needs lumbar and seat height adjustment. It’s not as good as the drivers seat.
@@MrKillerRC Agree, lucky for me I'm the driver
@@MrKillerRC agreed. The passenger seat needs to be able to lower just like the driver seat does.
@@powerguymark unacceptable for a car costing that much
The seats were the main selling point for me. It is so comfortable!
I bought the XLE version for my mom now that all the kids are out of the house and it's a perfect size for her. After 9 month of driving it, she still calls me up thanking me for selecting the right cuv for her. She couldn't be happier with this choice and does over 40 mpg consistently
I have a 2021 Venza and it is the best vehicle that I have ever owned. MPG is averaging 42.
Same here
That's how I feel. I'm looking to buy another one. I do wish sport mode would give you about an extra 30 more horsepower, but hey this isn't meant to be a race car it's a daily driver.
I have a 2022 loaded Venza Limited. Its Goldilocks, not too big or small. The hybrid drivetrain actually fits this car.
On my previous Lexus ES300H it’s too weak.
The new Venza has most of the bells and whistles of a Lexus, but bigger and cheaper than a NX. I really like it.
I am a 2021 XLE owner, and I've grown to appreciate it more over time. I put on Michelin CC2s which significantly improved road noise and comfort, I highly recommend this upgrade especially if you live in an area with very coarse and loud pavement. I also got a good PPF on the front and wireless carplay adapter. With good power, a nice interior, and elegant design, I really enjoy this car.
@@panzer_TZ thanks for the tire tip. Mine are still in good shape and I really don't notice a lot of road noise but it's worth noting when I do need to replace them of what I might look to replace them with.
Thanks for sharing
@@panzer_TZ yea the tires toyota put on these venzas are the one thing i dislike. noisiest tires ive ever had honestly
I have always wanted a Lexus SUV. But this seems just as luxurious and so much cheaper. I think this will easily be my next car in the future.
No joke! I just got an XLE Venza last week. Love it so far!
The Toyota Hybrid system is one of the best things I've ever experienced in auto engineering period. Admittedly, the slower ones aren't that fun to drive, but as a workaround I bought myself a Lexus GS450h; best of both worlds. In addition to my own car, I've had a chance to drive almost all of them, the Yaris hybrid, The Prius and Prius +, the Corolla (1.8), the Rav4. All of them are very smooth and relaxing to drive and get great mileage, on top of being extremely reliable. I have never missed having 'real' gears, by this point I have become fully convinced that this system is just better than having traditional gears, and cruising on the highway at 1100rpm is just the cherry on top. Even the 2022 S-Class hybrid can't get the gas mileage of my 2015 car, and that car has a smaller engine too.
The best thing about the CVT is that it’s perfectly under-stressed at highway cruising. I love it honestly, and floor my Sienna and Prius all the time without bracing for a rough downshift-and I know Toyota builds it to last.
I couldn’t agree more. Even better is that the Toyota CVT system is a planetary gear system that is built to last, unlike the belt-driven systems that other manufacturers use (Nissan) and often fail. That’s why you see so many Prius with over 300,000 miles on the original transmissions. Toyota quality standards are second to none.
@@grisa12345 Yep, sometimes I can barely help laughing maniacally when I'm sitting at 1200rpm on the highway in ultimate relaxation mode. I remember that my cars from the 90s (all 5 speed manuals) were always sitting at 3000rpm @100km/h, which was very uncomfortable.
smaller engine needs to try harder to put out the same power as a bigger engine. there's a sweet spot in every engine of power output to fuel input that a small engine just cant manage with most cars, which is why a weak engine almost always ends up worse on fuel. a corvette is almost idle on the highway, which is why they get strangely good mpg when they're not in the city
How was your experience with the Rav 4 Hybrid? Considering that over the Venza.
Bought a limited loaded - stargazer- heads up etc. love the vehicle. Great on gas, comfortable. Was concerned about the lack of buttons. Non- issue. 20k mikes 10 months - less MPG in winter. But still decent. Great MPG in mild climes. Glad I bought it!!
I could not be happier with mine.
I think it's the most solid (center of the dart board) vehicle purchase I've ever made in my life.
Same here love my Venza, I also have the limited and I just hit 20k (hour+ commute to work each way). I plan on keeping my car for a long time unless they make a prime version with wireless apple CarPlay lol
@@powerguymark how so? Doesnt the wind and tire noise ware on you? Not to mention the loud ecvt when accelerating
@@Mrtellitlikeitis I had narrowed my choices down to a RAV4 hybrid.
Venza is quieter than a RAV4 hybrid. Venza is also quieter than the second generation Chevy Equinox I was driving.
You want quieter than a Venza? Buy a Lexus and spend about 15 grand more. I'll take my 40pg and a little more noise any day of the week.
Especially for the price.
When a manufacturer gives you a car and someone has to do a review… jack does an awesome job keeping it positive
I LOVE that financing deal on the shirt, thank god the residuals are great on them.
Nice to see the support
Got two hybrid Rav4s because it's so damn good at regular commuting. Size is good, gas mileage is solid, the comfort and usability works so well for the price.
What’s your avg mileage?
Yes, it's solid. I prefer the less Tonka Toy styling of the Venza, but the RAV4 is a solid choice.
@@HeyJettRink Well I average 29-30mpg while averaging 82mph, but my wife gets like 36-38mpg and does like 70-75mph and less highway miles
we love our '22 sienna for daily driving
even in the cold weather we still manage to get 29-32 mpg
which is considerably more than the peak 23-24 of our '20 with a v6
on a full tank, on peak conditions it gets 37 mpg highway and easily 500+ miles of range
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I have a '10 Venza XLE V6 and its still going strong. That 30-40mpg is quite a bit better than my 22-24mpg.
always liked the look of the 'old' Venza, but didn't like the drive feel when I sought a used one
@@no1no1655 agreed. It's drives like a bus or maybe a couch on wheels. But I also have a Fiesta ST for track/back roads 👍
You guys have quickly become my favorite car review channel. You guys are down to earth and have a much different approach to the car TH-cam scene that seemed to have gone away but I'm glad it didn't. I appreciate you being honest and transparent in your reviews even when it's a car given by the company. Great content as always keep it up!
One of the few na toyotas that are still assembled in japan
I want the LOOOOOOONG [30 minutes] IN DEPTH VIDEOS BACK to this channel!
I have the 1st gen Venza and I just like the car. I suggested it for my aunt and she just got hers a week ago, she’s enjoying it so far.
Wife bought a new Camry Hybrid in '07. A total appliance but we've had zero issues with the hybrid. We haven't paid too much attention to mileage in the winter but it does vary a little.
Saw the new Avenza rolling down the road tonight and started telling my wife about your review and maybe giving it a test drive..look over to see who is driving it and there he was the man himself. Jack rolling around the streets of Schaumburg with the long termer.
Thank you for what you’re doing with the proceeds from the shirt Mr.Geese, I’ll be picking one up
Content is much appreciated! Liked the honesty and partnership between you and mark.
Yea I liked what Toyoda said about hybrids being the future. In MI, this review is on point with what I’d have to deal with. Hybrid is the best of both worlds.
Electric is better because it's fully renewable
The Venza battery weighs in at 58 pounds compared to Tesla at over 1,000 pounds. How much energy and cost is used to manufacture the EV batteries? My take is a lot. Hybrids are the way to go.
@@bob.bishop idk man. I can charge my EV home with energy directly from the sun. In my case for about 160-200 days from the year I can drive for free.
@@dragospahontu where can I get a solar panel for free? I want one too.
@@10ProSoccer some countries offer incentives. Even though the investment is big, you will get your money back in 2-4 years depending on how much you drive. Especially now when the fuel prices have increased.
I like the Venza, and I usually like SUV's that are boxy. I appreciate it's sleek and normal styling. It's not shouty like so many other cars are, and it doesn't have that baskin shark grill that Lexus models have. Toyota did a great job in making a non-Lexus product be really nice, and I appreciate them not putting all sorts of shouty look at me details
we got our venza last year and we love it.
This was the best practical discussion of hybrid/ cold weather I've heard.Appeciate you guys!
January 2021 I had made up my mind to buy a RAV4 hybrid but had already researched the Venza. I test drove four different RAV4 hybrids and didn't really care for any of them. Before leaving the dealership I tried out a newly delivered Venza limited. I immediately noticed how much more comfortable the seats were. I then noticed that although it had the same JBL sound system as the RAV4's I test drove.. it sounded better in the Venza.
Although it's not quiet when mashing the gas it was quieter than the RAV4 hybrid. It's really a disservice for Toyota to label their ECVT as a CVT since it has no belt to wear out like a standard CVT and is built solid as a rock. In sport mode it's actually nice to drive and still gets respectable gas mileage.
As the video suggests, using the heated seats and steering wheel has a direct impact on fuel economy which is weird until you think it through. I'm also impressed with the all-wheel drive system.
It is extremely quick in response to changing road conditions and since it's based on electric motors there's no drivetrain to maintain or wear out, just immediate torque to the appropriate wheels when needed. I tested the all-wheel drive system in a local 9-in snow event trying to romp on the gas and jerk the steering wheel around as hard as I possibly could trying to make it get squirrely and I could not make it perform poorly. I would not be fearful to take this mildly off-road if needed but obviously it's not an off-road vehicle and frankly neither are any of the RAV4s.
I'm typically averaging about 38mpg during warmer months and 34mpg in winter. Under ideal conditions I've got as high as 52mpg on a late night 15 Mile sandwich run which is Toyota Prius level mileage in a car I consider an entry-level Lexus that costs 12,000 less than a Lexus.
It's surprising to me more people have not caught on to this Venza platform. It's a solid performer. It has bulletproof Toyota hybrid reliability, resale value and is a pleasure to drive. Due to regenerative braking your brakes are going to last a very very long time as well.
With rising gas prices this platform should be on everyone's short list for a test drive.
I could not be more pleased with my purchase.
Here is an excellent video explaining how well designedToyotas ECVT is.
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I was about to check out for the new T-shirt wich I was excited to order, saw the 42$ shipping and went directly to bankruptcy. Living in the street with that wonderful T-shirt will still be a huge accomplishment for my now homeless self. Thanks a lot guys and I will now use the mental health project that I finance all by myself.
Hybrids make the most sense at this point - you can go completely EV for short commutes and you don’t have to spend hours of your time on long trips recharging batteries. I would go with the Camry hybrid however.
Cheers to you for supporting such a worthwhile organization and an important cause!
What a great team, thanks for all the work!
Those hybrids from Toyota are great. Absolutely the best in the business
I have a perfect 2013 ford cmax 97000 miles. Ford and Toyota developed their Hybrid system together
Finally able to order a shirt! I can already feel my T-levels rising, and my concubine, Candi, has noticed too. Thanks SG!
I feel like a winner now, not only was there another great SG video but I also was able to order one of the shirts! Thank you Mark and Jack
2021 Sienna hybrid and 2021 Prius Prime owner here. Easiest cars ever to live with (and keeps miles off the G63!) Sienna gets about 30mpg in mixed driving but the Prius is averaging 67mpg over the first 7500 miles. It’s hard not to love Toyota hybrids. Efficient and reliable, and IMO pretty good looking. I have plenty of quibbles with Toyota tech, but the reliability and efficiency are generally worth the trade off.
The video is great, this abomination makes me want to hurl.
Also got my shirt on order. Great work getting your shirts American made. You're a real one, Goose.
This car with a plug in hybrid system would be perfect. I guess that’s what the RAV4 Prime is supposed to be.
The recent spike in gas prices have softened me a bit towards hybrids. I'd appreciate if they were a little more fun, but I couldn't possibly go all electric in a region that experiences winter.
What should soften you up is that not moving to alternative energy and vehicles is a massive national security problem.
@@apocalypse487 that's a big one too, yeah, more than the environmental or cost reasons
@@apocalypse487 And that was done on purpose by Biden and his liberal cohorts.
Awesome. Such a pragmatic car, personally I think it looks great. Wish it was available in Australia.
interesting I just bought used Venza with the V6 Engine AWD XLE .. BUT its way older than this one .. for who don't know about it .. its a none Hybrid . 2012 ..the cons .. is Horrible gas mileage around 19 miles per gallon companied . But its very very reliable with very good power smooth ride V6 engine .. the reason why I'm watching this video .. is because I'm not into Electric Vehicles .. but ..Hybrid make more sense though. its too early to upgrade .. I still make payments one it .. I purchased it in 2019 with 48K on it .. now I have 60K on it .. so I got long way before upgrading .. if ever .. I really want to live whiteout auto loan for a while honestly !! but thanks to you guys .. and to everyone who provide or included additional info in the comments section .. sharing their personal experience it does help a lot ..
amen brah. i have a 2012 highlander, mpg sucks, but it's paid for, and going into debt to save $120 a month in gas is stupid.
Just bought two, Merica and helping ppl I'm sold. Keep up the good work 🤘🤘
It’s a good looking car to me. I would rock one of these as a daily, fur sure!
Really love this car. It might be an appliance, but damn it will not let you down.
After having seat time for a month in a K5, I understand the appeal a little bit more of a comfortable, steady relax-a-car. Its nice! I akinned the experience of modern cars as an everyman luxury experience.
Ironically its for that same experience that I preferred my altima. Even when being slower, that car is fun to drive everyday, and chill enough to lean back on when need be. Maybe its cause I’m a freak of nature, but I feel the need more often to drive spiritedly than I do to chill
The need to drive spiritedly is just Altima owner energy
I bought a Toyota Venza 2021 LE model. I was upgrading from a 2010 Honda Civic, mind you. So I didn't go bruhaha on all the tech, wanted buttons instead of a touchscreen, preferred a smaller screen and was okay with a simple backup camera that I had fitted myself in my old Civic.
Then I upgraded to Venza and it is a breeze. AWD, standard hybrid, smooth drive, consistently hitting >40mpg. The cabin is über comfortable, Android auto is perfect, the sound system is more than adequate. The adaptive cruise control makes my drive much less worrisome. I love long drives (easy 300 miles a day). So this car is more than perfect for me.
So if you are upgrading from an older vehicle, I would strongly suggest you this car. Go for a lower model since you don't want to overspend but want all the basic features such as adaptive cruise control.
Nikhil
With higher reliability than their gas-only counterparts, and rising fuel prices, hybrids are making more and more sense every day.
Thank you for not reflexively hating on this because it doesn't lap the 'Ring in 8 flat or tackle the Rubicon.
I don't own anything like this, but can see exactly why it sells, and wouldn't care what Flatbills think if I did buy one.
I thought the Venza is the spiritual successor to the Venza.
The first Venza was really a weird large wagon based on the Highlander, IIRC. This new Venza is actually what the RX 350 would've been if they didn't push the RX to make it bigger. (The first two generations of RX were rebadges of the overseas Toyota Harrier, which is what this new Venza is). Confusing, I know, I hope I explained it well enough.
@@panzer_TZ My parents owns a 2012 Venza, and we refer to it as a mini Lexus.
Like the format.Great points about real world range in a variety of seasons.Looking forward to the next installment!
I’ve had two hybrid Toyota’s. The range drop in winter is similar to his experience. I have a late model leaf now and (I knew going in) its range in cold winter weather is 50-60% of stated range. Winter eviscerates EV range.
Thank you both, a wonderful cause
I live in Vietnam and the Venza always catches my eye for some reason!
That part about EVs and range anxiety is the reason why mass EV adoption will not happen until we solve charge speed and infrastructure. Until then, Toyota's hybrids were a 20+ year bet that is already paying off big, especially with gas prices where they are now, and will continue to be the dominant tech for cars in the near future.
I agree that hybrids are a good bet for many, and for commuter vehicles in moderate climates, plug-in hybrids make sense. However, we're already seeing EVs (from Hyundai and Kia so far) that can get a 200 mile charge in twenty minutes. That's a very useful mileage for a relatively short break, and for most people would require no stops shorter than they'd already take on a road trip (meals and bathroom breaks). The range dropoff needs to be explored more. The awd versions have heat pumps that shpuld help a lot. I wish heat pump prices would drop, as all EVs should at least have them as an option.
A 20 min charge time would be better than 1hr for sure. We just need that infrastructure everywhere that an EV can go (perhaps starting with malls and other popular destinations), and that won't be happening for a long while.
Q: What’s the interest rate on the 144 month t shirt financing? Additionally, are you seeing dealer gouging on this product?
Love the content as always, and love how the shirts are made and what they support. Mental health is very important to me, it’s how I lost my sister. Pretty cool I get to start my day with my top channel supporting “real life things” keep it up guys, you’re appreciated. Now, can’t wait for the content we’ve all been waiting for… the Mirage review lol.
Well done. I’ve owned a 21 Venza Limited for 10 months now. First review to discuss the decreased mpg and mileage driving in winter months. Like Jack, my Venza mileage decreased 20-25% (28-32 mpg) for winter driving with a range of 300 miles. The drivability of this vehicle with the ECVT is mundane at best. So many negatives outweighing the positives to mention with the Venza. in short, when the lease is up it’s gone.
don't forget how the published fuel tank capacity is nothing but lies, the published capacity is 14 gallons but you'll only fill up 11 gallons at the pump even though the dash say 20 miles to empty
Please share your negatives. I've had mine for 13 months 18,000 miles. I don't like the Toyota navigation system so I typically use Android auto. It took me a while to get used to the touch sensitive controls and not having a volume knob to quickly turn the volume down when I needed to. (I just hit the power button now)
So far I've been pretty happy with mine.
Tge great majority of the US population lives in places with veey little (or no) extreme winter weather. Battery range may be a big issue in the upper Midwest and inland Northeast, but most people along the East Coast, almost everyone in the southern half of the country, and people in the Pacific Coast states will see very little drop.
@@powerguymark I had a 2021 XLE for 2 years and the gas mileage was great but hated the touch-sensitive controls. the biggest problem is the high-voltage cable to the all-wheel drive system. the majority of RV4 hybrids & plug- in and Venza corrode within the first 2 years because of the snow & salt. it is only covered by the 3-year basic warranty and not the 8-year hybrid system. the cost of replacement is 5k to 8k.but the replacement cable is the same as the old one. Toyota almost gave me the same price that I paid 2 years ago so I got a 2023 RV4 XLE premium gas model. the ride is similar to the Venza but I feel more connected with the road in the RV4
Man, I missed these discussion videos. Thanks for the insight!
Can't believe I'm saying this, but that was one of the best t-shirt promos I've ever seen 👍
The LE model is where it's at, minus the lack of heated seats. The LE has the better button interface.
So does the xle. The xle comes w the smaller touchscreen by default. The bigger one is optional
Hybrids are the best alternative for most of us. Electric for the city, gas for longer trips
T-shirts. You're a good man Mark.👍
What you guys got a sensible car. Well done you. Waiting for a Sorento HEV myself.
Oh, dont see anyone mentioning cracking their right leg into the center console thats hard. Really hard
I have a 2021 Venza. I had been averaging 42.7mpg, then in the winter, it dropped to 42.1mpg. I expect mpg to increase again as the weather warms up-all this in mostly Washington DC-area driving.
Good to know Martin Shkreli has taken over your T-shirt production
We’ve been waiting for this… our Venza already has 22k and barely over a year old. She loves it, but she’s no NPC lol
Compared to my previous gas powered car.
1. Heated steering wheel slow to warm.
2. Heater slow to warm.
To all. I set my mode to sport mode full time. It’s fun to drive and a fast off a red light. Mileage penalty is well worth it. Since I live in a cold climate, I wouldn’t get a hybrid again.
I was looking for a boring, reliable, ultra fuel-efficient, drive and forget it appliance experience and stumbled upon the Toyota Venza. I liked the interior, but I opted for the Rav4 hybrid as a daily. They both are about the same vehicle, but the Venza is a step up from the Rav4 with Toyota’s new design language, and it is still made in Japan, so it does have that going for it.
Gentlemen, When you do your next report on the Venza, would you please confirm whether the interior is larger and more accommodating than the new Lexus NX .
We should all protest until we get a Chevy Trax review!
wow saw the Venza at siz flags in vallejo, I was like damn that's some transference marketing psychology right there. Looks like a lexus to me tho
super excited for the expanded video! I would love to see this type of long-term loan for the Ford Maverik too!
Realky curious. Tons of people complain of lots of wind and tire noise. Not one mention here
Could it be a issue with 21 and not 22?
I'm looking to go BEV in a couple of years. Please consider reviewing the new Hyundai or Kia ev's.Thanks for the 6+ years of automotive education and fun.Great channel Mark and Jack! I drive what's been a great cruiser.2000 I30 now at 216,000.
I got extremely lucky and bought a 22 Sienna a few months ago for my business and I've already rolled past 10k miles. I love this thing so damn much! It's the most expensive car I've ever bought but was required due to the nature and mileage requirements of my company. The cold weather MPG was a huge shocker but 95% of the time I get over 40mpg and if I have to sit in bad traffic it'll go as high as 50mpg.
Mpg difference in the sienna is crazy. In my ‘21, we got 38 mpg in a summer trip on a 65 mph highway. On a winter trip on a 75 mph highway it was low 20s.
@@bahussa what about using a block heater to preheat the engine?
Owning a Venza has made me take a good hard look at a Sienna.
It would be the ultimate weekend trip mobile.
Maybe a block heater would help but I wouldn’t think it would make much difference in overall mpg on a long highway trip. It’s our third sienna and overall pretty good. So far I’d rather have the efficiency of the hybrid over the smooth power of the 6. The fit and finish is a little suspect on the ‘21.
my biggest gripe with the Venza, is in Canada, you can only get a 360 camera on the top (limited) trim, which is a must-have for me. but the top trim ONLY comes with the fancy pano sunroof, and the sunroof prevents u having side rails for roof racks. and roof racks are another must-have for me. I wish there was a package to add 360 cam to the XLE.
Aftermarket maybe?
Just curious, they haven’t been around for very long, so how did 360 cam become a Must have for you?
@@yourmommashouse 1. the neighbourhood stray cats like to party on my property, 2. my fam does a fair bit of parking next to curbs, 3. the boat launch i frequent for kayaking is adjacent to an off leash dog park 4. cost. in canada, a venza is in the high 40s to low 50 thousand dollar CAD range. that's practically 60k after taxes and fees. at that price, "nice-to-haves" become "must-haves" for me.
@@Cal94 At that price point I can understand why I am not seeing many of these here in the GTA.
@@cliffpeterson8430 nah, i never see very many on the lots, so i wager they're selling, but the dealerships aren't getting very many to sell.
I drove one for a week -- with a lot of rain and what not. I found the car to have a heavy feel, but did get great gas mileage.
As always - perfect review! Btw waiting for a review of updated Mazda CX-5.
Happy that the T-Shirts are back, but sadly, being in Canada, including shipping, would cost a whopping $91.98 CAD (~ $72.46 USD). At this point i will continue to support the channel simply by watching, liking and subscribing. Not much else I can do without trading in some of my maple leaf stamped gold bullion.
Sounds like the venza is the black and decker electric toaster appliance we have at home. Here i an thinking its more like the Hamilton Beach milk shake maker appliance, i stored in my closet. Cheers guys, i am looking for a car. This video has convinced me to at least go take a test drive and give it a chance..
You have one of the better t-shirts on the market. Really awesome!
Introducing SG merch restock on Pt. 1 of a long-term review for a Venza was the only reason there were any Mediums left when I placed my order just now. Thanks for that fighting chance. ;)
1:31, thanks for that cut
Large and XL shirts are already out apparently. I think we'll need Gentleman Goose 3.0 shortly.
I was thinking you should post the t-shirt merch segment as a short. Then again, the target market would watch every video to the end, anyways.
Improvement on the frog-like appearance from the back of the car. Love you guys
Saw one today. Was backing up at the grocery store and the sound it makes was so weird, like a hum... everybody turned their heads.
2021 Venza XLE, 60k miles, no issue beside replacing original tires at 43k.
Love the long term review
From everything I've read and seen, it seems the venza is the replacement for the avalon even though Toyota is bringing some version of the Toyota Crown to the US. The venza and rav4 share a similar relationship as the avalon and camry. With the avalon being gone, I can see avalon buyers moving to the venza because it's more luxurious than the average Toyota, priced below comparable luxury cars, and has the toyota peace of mind reliability.
Very good point!
I was at a Toyota dealer and I said to the salesman who was showing us the venza that it was the replacement for the Avalon and he said no. God, some salespeople are such idiots
😂😂😂 so true!
Looking forward to the long term 86 review
Now you're talking
Can you store extra luggage in the wheel well gaps?
Please buy a Honda Civic Si daily driver too 👍
hopefully you'll have some large 2.0 shirts soon. i'm glad you guys were given a chance to do a long-term review, hopefully you get some more. did you guys have any noteworthy gripes or something you really loved about the car, maybe with any particular feature?
It takes 10 minutes to full up
Costco: we'll see about that