The Bishop of Rome - Can we find a way forward for unity?

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  • Recently, the Vatican's Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity released a study document titled, "The Bishop of Rome." In it, they discuss the last century of ecumenical dialogue's and the last two millennia of agreement and disagreement on the role of the bishop of Rome.
    In this video, I highlight a few key parts of the new document and share my thoughts on how the divided churches can continue to make progress on this difficult doctrine of the primacy of the pope and what an amenable explanation and exercise of this office might look like.
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  • @kevinmauer3738
    @kevinmauer3738 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Grew up Protestant, now Catholic. Loved this video! One of my primary motivations in becoming Catholic was Christian unity. Austin's ability to see this issue with fresh eyes reminds us of the big picture. Many of our churches observe the annual week of prayer for Christian unity, and we should never cease.

  • @timothy2794
    @timothy2794 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think any Catholic theologian would disagree with the idea that the understanding of the Papacy developed, but was grounded in what Christ intended, in the truth. Much like the

  • @user-th6yf5uo6h
    @user-th6yf5uo6h 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Good summary. It is hard for us Catholics to concede ground because many Protestants still hate or put down Catholics without much depth of knowledge. But Christ was both divine and human as is the Church and even Scripture. So the papacy clearly shows the same traits. But playing pope ourselves is hardly the solution. God bless, a convert from Pentecostalism to the Catholic Church ♥️🙏📿

  • @SarahB012
    @SarahB012 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m Orthodox but the Papacy doesn’t bother me. I hope for unity. The NT is literally the OT religion taken to the Gentiles with Christ on the altar instead of a lamb. There was Moses for the Israelites then there was Peter for the Gentiles. Korah said “we don’t need your authority…” that didn’t end well. 🤷‍♀️ The whole Israelite kingdom splintered just like the church has. Jesus came for the Pharisee and the Samaritan. I try to remember that.

  • @JimCvit
    @JimCvit 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    @Gospel Simplicity. You need to watch this video by @The Jewish Catholic because he just talked about this on his channel why he converted from Judaism to Catholicism instead of becoming Orthodox

  • @kevinninja787
    @kevinninja787 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    You're a better Christian than I'll ever be. I really appreciate the charitable and thoughtful response you give to all Christian denominations.

  • @MB-ru8kg
    @MB-ru8kg 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Catholic here. God bless all of you.

  • @gsharp881
    @gsharp881 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The Anglican Ordinariate is probably the better model for those outside of the jurisdiction of Rome, especially protestants. Lets not forget the Eastern Catholics that have reunited over the history of the Church and the Maronites that have never left Papal Primacy. There are already plenty of options that would keep both sides happy in current practice and key practices from the first millennium. Lets be frank, even in the Orthodox church the lack of a final authority is an issue that only those who have lived as Orthodox have encountered. Kallistos Ware had some interesting ideas on the subject and I believe that the Greek Orthodox Patriarch may be open to unity sooner than we think.

  • @thomasc9036
    @thomasc9036 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If Jesus intended to be united under the Pope and the Church in Rome, it's rather lacking in substance and clarity in the Bible. I would expect that James, Paul, Mark, and others would have emphasized this point in the Bible considering the monumental nature of the claim by the Roman Catholics. The pattern in the early church as shown in the scripture was physically separated but spiritually united in Christ.

  • @sethtrey
    @sethtrey 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The role of the Bishop of Rome is to oversee the church of Rome. Unity will mean his repenting from trying to do more than this.

  • @emily12345haha
    @emily12345haha 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I love how you approach these topics!

  • @MrPeach1
    @MrPeach1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Thanks for reading a Catholic document most of us Catholics are not going to take the time to read.

  • @ghostapostle7225
    @ghostapostle7225 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Extreme fair treatment of the document, some traditionalists catholics should learn how to read documents from the Church like you do. Even if the document is not authoritative or binding for catholics, still it has great value in how we catholis should approach the papacy with other christian faiths in a manner that can be actually fruitful, without abandoning any doctrine or dogma of our faith.

  • @ameliakoch6045
    @ameliakoch6045 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I really appreciate your kind treatment of this subject. Catholics are having a hard time with this presently, "brother against brother".

  • @jayjaygeez
    @jayjaygeez 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    As a Protestant with an interest in this topic, I don’t want to oversimplify the issue as a whole by saying this, but the actual answer, to me, does seem simple, straightforward, and obvious, and people just seem to dance around it pretending there can be some other way: the only way the East and West would actually unite would be for the Orthodox to just accept the primacy of the Pope and everything that goes with that. While that’s a huge ask, between that and the RCC going back on key things like Papal primacy and infallibility, that’s far more likely to happen, so much so that it’s the only “real” option. There really isn’t any compromise that could be reached that either church would consider acceptable.

  • @susand3668
    @susand3668 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Have you watched the videos about the First Five Hundred Years by The Catholic Brothers? They present a very human way that the universal Church developed, in the very particular situation of the Roman Empire.

  • @tafazziReadChannelDescription
    @tafazziReadChannelDescription 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I didn't have the time to read the whole document yet, only the summary at the back (which sounded really good!) thanks for this video!

  • @toddvoss52
    @toddvoss52 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    No I don’t think it is conceding too much ground. I had a feeling that if you read the document, your take would be the one that was perhaps one of the most objective and the most interesting. From what I have seen, both orthodox and even Catholic TH-camrs and others, I’ve not been disappointed. In a way the document was written for people like you as well as dialogue theologians. I thought your take was very thoughtful and hopeful.

  • @patricktinley6545
    @patricktinley6545 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A couple of concepts to keep in mind when contemplating this issue.

  • @michaelmullard4292
    @michaelmullard4292 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Impressed that you’ve read Jean Daniélou!